C (3:05)

Wow, wow, wow. Yeah. So I will say right off the bat, I do think the Rams are the better team. But as you know, yesterday I sat here and said, I think Seattle's going to win this game. And Seattle won the game. And I want to take, I want to go to the first two point conversion. Just for a few seconds here on the field. Every single player thought that was a dead ball. When the guy picked up the ball in the end zone, it looked like he was going to hand it to the referee. That should have been 30 to 28 and there was not going to be an overtime. And then you get this deus ex machina call from the booth, maybe from New York City. I don't know where it came from. And everyone has to go back on the field. Nobody understands what's going on. It changes the entire betting component because the Rams are one and a half point favorite and they would have covered and you may say that doesn't matter, but the league, all leagues now have partners who are involved in betting. So it does matter. Look, I'm glad it's the right call. I always want it to be the right call. But I will tell you, it made me uneasy and it felt a little bit contrived and I'm still sort of reeling from that. I'll get to Sam Darnold now. He had two picks last night that's better than the four he had in their first game. Mike, but it's still two picks. It could have been disastrous for him, but he got another chance and he threw the ball great towards the end of the game. It's a miracle win for Seattle being down 16 with nine to go. And Mike, it's the second incredible loss this year for the Rams, who also had that blocked field goal attempt touchdown against the Eagles. I think the rams should be 13:2. And you know, and I know you're not going to hear this. I want to see it again. I want to see it for a third time in the NFC Championship Game.

B (4:46)

But when you lose close games, that's what you are, you're a loser of close games. It's three of them. I don't want to hear from the Rams. They keep losing close games. So what? So like if it's a team that people don't think is as fuzzy or as cuddly and they don't like them because they don't like some player, they say, ah, they lose close games. That's what the Rams do. The two point conversion in real time.

C (5:09)

They.

B (5:09)

Before they went to the commercial break, I thought, wait a minute. The angle we had initially makes it look like a backward pass. If I saw it going into commercial, I don't understand why the players didn't know. And I was like, okay, not a single player. That's the right call.

C (5:23)

Not a single player on the field thought that was anything but a dead ball. Brush up dead ball is what they thought.

B (5:30)

Brush up Ram Seahawks and I'd like to see it again is not only is just not only the big matchup of week 16. Tomorrow night the packers visit my Bears here on our frozen tundra with first place of the NFC Central at stake. On Sunday, the Bucks and Panthers play for first place in the NFC South 10. Four Jaguars take on the AFC leading Broncos. That's. That's big. Steelers and Lions meet in the battle of eight and sixes. And Sunday night the Patriots take on the Ravens. Still don't know what to make of them. Tony, which of this weekend's games intrigues you?

C (6:06)

Well, I'm going to stay away from the Bears and the packers because I know you went out to Chicago to see this game. You wanted to see the Chicago Bears one last time before they became the Indiana Bears. So I'm going to leave that one to you. I am intrigued by Jacksonville at Denver. For one. I had no idea that Jacksonville would be 10 and 4 at this point in the season that they would have won five in a row and six out of seven for a brand new coach. I had some expectations of the Broncos because I think they qualified for the playoffs last year, but they've won 11 in a row. I had no expectations of that. You know, I'm looking at the AFC and other than Buffalo, there are a lot of sort of youngish teams that we haven't seen that much of who could qualify for the playoffs. It's possible, Mike, that the winner of this game was. Will end up in the Super Bowl. The other game that I would focus on, and I know they're not great teams is Tampa Bay and Carolina because they're going to Play twice in the last three weeks of the season and the winner, if somebody wins both, they're going to win that division. And although they're not great teams, you win a division and you get a home playoff game, which the Rams might not get with a much better record. And I will tell you, Mike, that never, ever, ever did I think Carolina would be in a position to win that division.

B (7:27)

Yeah, you know, Tampa we thought was pretty good coming in just one game. You know, the league and the network didn't put those other games on Saturday night prime time. They didn't put those other games on. This game is on. Packers at Bears. The league's two oldest teams, the league's oldest rivalry. Two teams that plain don't like each other, even though, you know, I'm not going to make up some phony baloney thing about the fan bases. We all live together. I've driven the Lambo and you wind up tailgating in people's houses in their backyards when you're wearing a Bears jersey. So we don't hate each other, the fans. I mean, we do in a WWE sort of way for a couple of hours Saturday night. But this thing is really good. Nobody had the Bears being this far along this season with Ben Johnson in his first season and Caleb Williams in his first season under Ben Johnson. People did have the packers there. You don't have Michael Parsons, but you do have love. Who people have. Being an MVP will see. This matchup's got it all. I like some of those Sunday games too, Tony, and I'm going to watch them. But there's only one I travel to go to, and that's right here.

C (8:40)

Understandable. It's totally understandable. Steelers, Lions. But are Steelers any good? Like I.

B (8:46)

We're still.

C (8:47)

Let's turn to the college footballers.

B (8:48)

Steelers and the Ravens. We're still trying to figure out if either one of them is any good.

C (8:53)

College football playoff now, one game tonight, Alabama at Oklahoma. Three more games tomorrow. Miami, Texas A and M at noon. Tulane, ole Miss at 3:30. James Madison, Oregon at 7:30. Wilbon, which of these playoff matchups is the most compelling to you?

B (9:08)

Tony? I want to try to get worked up for the Saturday matchups, but I can't. I'll watch them, particularly the Miami. The, the. The noon game, Eastern time. But Tony, it's tonight. It's Alabama and Oklahoma and I mean, look, Oklahoma already beat Alabama and Tuscaloosa and people say, oh well, the Tide turned it over a bunch of times. Why won't they turn it over a bunch of times again in Norman where there's going to be an advantage for the Sooners. So. And Tony, to be honest, I'm sort of rooting for Alabama because I don't want the storyline of my God and half the people in the state want Kaylen DeBoer out. He's on a G6 up to Ann Arbor. And not only are you going to have the drama of the. Of the Michigan job, you're going to have the Alabama job becoming vacant, and that's what's going to happen. You're going to get that drama if Alabama loses. So I'd like to avoid that, but I don't think we're going to. I think that game's got all the intrigue. It's got as much intrigue as all three other games combined.

C (10:13)

I'm just going to say this about Alabama, and I know that they lost to Oklahoma at Alabama. They also beat Georgia at Georgia. So you never count Alabama out. You don't count Alabama out. Now, I walk into this trio of games on Saturday and I think to myself, I don't give any chance in the world to Tulane or to James Madison. But if by some miracle one of those teams was to win, that might be the most compelling result in the history of college football, certainly in the history of any playoff that they've ever had. Anyone. And if Tulane were to beat Ole Miss, the hatred directed at Lane Kiffin in Oxford would reach new heights. And again, Ole Miss could have chosen to let Lane Kiffin coach. I advocated for that, but they did not. I'm going to concentrate on the Miami, Texas A and M game, which I would like to call the Notre Dame bowl, because these are the only two teams that beat Notre Dame all season. They beat them back in August, I think, by a total of four points. I don't think either of them could necessarily beat Notre Dame now, but we're never going to know that these are both good teams. I think it's possible Texas A and M is being a little undersold now because they lost late late in the season when they lost to Texas, but that's their only loss. Miami has two losses that are worse than losing to Texas. Wouldn't you agree on that? So last year, Mike, in this round of the playoffs, the home teams went 4, 0 and they won by a total of 77 points, no game. And I think that could happen again. It's college football. It's not pro. It could happen again, don't you think?

B (11:55)

Yeah, but I don't Think that'll happen like a blowout in the Oklahoma Alabama game? I I It's just dripping with drama tone. Then, by the way, Tulane. Don't, don't count Tulane out of this. I think if there's going to be an upset, out of the four games, it would be Tulane beating. You're right. Oh, my God. Oh, Tulane.

C (12:15)

Kiffin, let's take a break. Coming up, Nikola Jokic breaks Kareem's record for most assists by a center. What is the word for that?

B (12:23)

And what did we learn this week when pro golfers played in this team relay on the Golf Channel? What the hell was that?

C (12:30)

So. So you think the Rams are losers? I don't. I still think they're a Super bowl team. I still think that.

B (12:37)

No, no, no, no.

C (12:38)

I think they'll win. Their Rams.

B (12:39)

Can happen. When you have to play as a wild card, stuff happens.

C (12:45)

Well, if they win their last two and Seattle loses one, what then?

A (12:50)

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C (14:25)

Time to get it on with Lexicon. What's first?

B (14:28)

It's blank that Nikola Jokic passed Kareem for the most career assists by a center.

C (14:35)

It's amazing. Is my Word. It is actually totally amazing. Jokic is in his 11th season. Kareem played 20 seasons. Jokic has now played 771 games. Kareem played 1,560. That's more than double. And Jokic just passed him. What? Kareem is one of the 10 greatest players of all time, and Jokic just passed him. He's a seven footer. You do not expect him to be like Tiny Archibald Mike. At the moment, he is 28 assists behind Larry Bird, probably the greatest frontcourt passer ever. He's 34 assists behind Dwyane Wade. He's going to pass them by Christmas. He leads the league in assists. It's totally amazing.

B (15:19)

It is. It's evolutionary. That's my word. Because the game has evolved in such a way and, you know, even, yes, there are multiple facets of it. I'm gonna still name Steph Curry as the primary person, right. Character in this basketball evolution, because the way he shoots it and spreads the court and allows other guys like a seven footer like Jokic to get involved passing the ball. As you know, because you knew Wilt and saw him play a little bit. Wilt did this sort of as a lark. Will did this to say, hey, you want to doubt me? I'm Wilt. I can do anything. And he led the league in assists one year, but it's not seven plus a game. I don't know that Kyrie Irving, who is a wizard with the basketball, has ever averaged 7.4 assists a game, which I think is what the Joker is averaging. I mean, Maravich was a wizard. He didn't average assist like this. So Tony is high change is what.

C (16:22)

Kyrie's Highest ever is 5.2. And Jokic has him by two again. What's next? Oh, God.

B (16:27)

The team relay event at the Golf Channel games was blank.

C (16:33)

My word is totally cool. Let me explain what this was. Last night, there were teams out there and they were trying to complete a hole as quickly as possible. So at one point, Luke Donald, the team of Luke Donald, Rory McElroy, Purple and Shane Lowry, they go out there and they complete a par four, a legitimate par four in 28 seconds. They get a birdie in 28 seconds. Donald hits the drive, Rory is out in the fairway, he tracks it down, runs to it, hits a shot onto the green where Shane Lowry is waiting, hits it to 8ft. Lowry waits for the ball to stop moving, just can't hit it while it's moving, sinks the putt, and they get a birdie they didn't even have to use the fourth guy. They got a birdie in 28 seconds. Patrick Cantlay cannot grip his club in 28 seconds because he's the slowest golfer of all time. I will say that these sorts of weird things with the Golf Channel and with that TRL or tgl, whatever it's called, they are fun for me to watch in the winter. Only in the winter. They humanize the golfers. And they're at night and they're under lights. And I like them.

B (17:45)

I don't like them. But I gotta come up with a word. It's counterculture. Because when I go play golf, I want peace. I don't want to run anywhere. If I was going to do that, I would have stayed and played tennis. My words should have been so what? Instead of counterculture. So they did this. So what? What does it do? What does it advance? It's just fun. So fun.

C (18:06)

You're a Grinch. It's your time. You're the Grinch of Christmas.

B (18:10)

I should have worn a Grinch hat today.

C (18:12)

That's the final word. Let's take one last break. Still to come, a reported thaw in the recent relationship between Notre Dame and the acc.

B (18:21)

I hate to hear that. We'll detail another big night from the Lakers. Luka Doncic.

C (18:28)

I got this wrong. It was 6.9 for Kyrie. It's his highest ever. It's longer than my ear, but it's still below. It's still below.

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C (20:30)

Happy 68th birthday Kevin McHale, McHale, Robert Parish and Larry Bird formed arguably the greatest frontcourt in NBA history when they played for the Boston Celtics in the 1980s and early 1990s. They won three championships together. McHale was the third overall pick by the Celtics out of Minnesota in 1980. That draft pick came as the result of a trade Red Auerbach made, sending the overall number one pick to Golden State for Parish and the third pick, McHale. McHale averaged 17.9 points and 7.3 rebounds over the course of his career. Made the all defensive team six times. When he was done playing, McHale stayed in the game as Minnesota's team executive and as a coach coaching Minnesota, then Houston. McHale was elected into the hall of Fame in 1999.

B (21:15)

Kevin McHale, my neighbor now in Scottsdale, undoubtedly on a golf course right this second. Kevin McHale young dopes have no idea how great and unstoppable Kevin McHale was with Charles Barkley yesterday, who always says that at that position at that time, Kevin McHale was the most unstoppable. All you gotta do is look at the tapes. Go to YouTube. Young Dopes Kevin McHale Larry Bird from.

C (21:44)

Kevin McHale Happy Anniversary DeSean Jackson on this day 15 years ago in a tie game with 14 seconds left to play, Eagles wide out return this punt for a touchdown to beat the Giants at the final whistle. This is still the only regulation walk off punt return in NFL history, and at least on this one, Jackson held on to the ball as he crossed the goal. As the play ended, you can see Giants coach Tom Coughlin run to Matt Dodge as the coaching staff had told the rookie punter to punt the ball out of bounds rather than give Jackson a chance to return. Jackson is now Coaching Delaware state in the MIAC, where he went 8 and 4 overall and 4 and 1 in conference. The school's best record since 2007.

B (22:27)

It's just hubris. You tell these punters specifically, don't punt to this guy. Don't punt it to Devin Hester. Go away from Devin Hester. Remember Tony Dungy doing that?

C (22:37)

No.

B (22:38)

You know, I don't really trust coach. I'mma kick it to him. Go ahead. Dope.

C (22:44)

Happy trails to the Connecticut Sun. The ownership of the Houston Rockets is reportedly in substantive talks to acquire the WNBA team and potentially move it to Houston. The Mohegan Tribe has owned the sun since 2003 and reached a deal in July to sell the team to a Boston based group. But the league blocked it, saying that other markets deserved a team first. The league has long indicated a desire to return a team to Houston. The Houston Comets won the league's first four championships, but disbanded in 2008.

B (23:15)

There should be a team in Houston, but let me say this, Tony. There's all sorts of stuff going on in the dark. I mean, there could be a work stoppage. I mean, that's a very real possibility at this point. And I guess you know, when you have anything new and aspirational, ambitious, you're going to have an evolution with that too. So we don't know what's quite going on with the W for this next upcoming season.

C (23:40)

Very inside the w. Love it. One omission. Puka Nkua fined $25,000 for criticizing the officials. Fair? Is it fair?

B (23:49)

That was last week's fine. Wait till he gets this week's. It should be 100. He's a great player and an irritant. He is.

C (23:56)

Let's go quick to the big finish. Luka Don 45, 11 and 14 as the Lakers beat the Jazz. Are you impressed?

B (24:02)

Everything about the Lakers is impressive right now. Everything. Arch Manning will take a pay cut next season. What? That money could go to new transfers or to retain other players, according to something called on three. Does that make sense to to you?

C (24:18)

Absolutely makes sense. He's not a. Well, he's a pro, but he's not the kind of pro that Tom Brady was when Tom Brady manipulated salaries like that. Ross Dellinger reports at Notre Dame Adqua. ACC commissioner Jim Phillips had a very positive two hour meeting yesterday. You find that significant?

B (24:33)

Probably. Babak was lucky that Jim Phillips is as good a dude as he is. I'd be less so in a meeting with him. Duke quarterback Darion Mensah says he's returning for his red shirt junior year.

C (24:47)

You surprised? No. He wants to see the NBA cup at Cameron. Last one. Your boy Jake Paul fights Anthony Joshua tonight. Who you got?

B (24:55)

I want Joshua to crush him.

C (24:59)

Out of time. Try to do better. I'm Kornheiser.

B (25:02)

I'm Mike Lobon. Have a great weekend, knucklehead.

A (25:05)

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