Seahawks Get Their Revenge on the Patriots!

Summary

PTI Episode Summary

Episode: Seahawks Get Their Revenge on the Patriots!
Date: February 9, 2026
Hosts: Tony Kornheiser, Michael Wilbon

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Episode Overview

Tony Kornheiser and Michael Wilbon kick off this episode of PTI by breaking down a lopsided Super Bowl in which the Seattle Seahawks dominated the New England Patriots. The episode's main theme centers on Seattle’s defensive prowess, the struggles of Patriots rookie QB Drake May on the big stage, and the cultural fallout from this style of old-school, defense-first football. The hosts also discuss Lindsey Vonn’s devastating Olympic crash and touch on the dramatic UNC vs. Duke basketball finish, PGA golf, and recent coaching changes.

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Key Discussion Points

1. Super Bowl Recap: Seahawks Dominate Patriots

(Starts ~01:10)

• Seattle's defense held New England scoreless until the 4th quarter; Patriots had only 78 yards of offense through three quarters (01:10–02:13).
• Both hosts predicted a Seahawks win. Wilbon praised Seattle—“To me, the Seahawks beat the hell out the New England Patriots.” (01:43, Wilbon)
• Tony called the game "non-competitive," declaring it "game over, good night" when Seattle went up 16-0 early in the 4th (02:49, Kornheiser).
• Sam Darnold, Seattle's QB, played efficiently: "He was not any better than okay. But he did not turn the ball over." (02:53, Kornheiser)
• Tony lauded Seattle’s young head coach, age 38, for not getting enough praise compared to offensive coaches: “It’s about time he gets the kind of praise that we always give to young offensive assistants.” (03:29, Kornheiser)

2. Drake May’s Disappointing Performance

(Starts ~04:51)

• Patriots rookie QB Drake May was sacked six times, logged three turnovers, and looked “ordinary, if not overwhelmed.”
• Tony: “He’s 23 years old, and it looked like the stage was a little bit too big for him.” (05:13)
• Wilbon: “The Seattle defense beat the hell out of Tony Eason—I mean, Drake May. They beat him to death.” (06:59)
• Tony highlighted the Patriots’ offensive line issues and Seattle’s postseason defensive dominance, underscoring the importance of line play: “He’s been sacked 20 times in four playoff games. That is indicative that the offensive line isn’t doing its job.” (05:39)
• Notable May quote: “If you don’t make plays, you end up crying at the podium.” (06:16, cited by Kornheiser)

3. Lindsey Vonn's Crash and Breezy Johnson’s Olympic Win

(Starts ~08:06)

• Vonn, aged 41, attempted an Olympic downhill run despite a torn ACL, crashing 14 seconds in. She suffered a broken leg and needed surgery.
• Wilbon: “She was courageous and heroic... It doesn’t make her less courageous. As a matter of fact, it makes her more.” (08:35)
• Tony considered Vonn’s crash the headline over Breezy Johnson’s gold: “If I’m writing the headline... the first deck... says Vonn crashes. The second deck says Breezy Johnson wins.” (09:37)
• Tony reflected on Vonn’s decision: “She’s 41 years old. She had been retired. And she said, if I lay out of this one, I can’t come back at 45. So I gotta go now, right?” (10:10)

4. North Carolina Stuns Duke at the Buzzer

(Starts ~13:10)

• Tony and Wilbon react to Seth Trimble’s last-second shot to beat Duke.
• Wilbon: “This shot was a scream out loud moment... that rivalry... to go that way and end that way is wow.” (13:39)
• Court-storming concerns: Tony criticizes UNC for storming the court, suggesting their tradition makes it “embarrassing.” (14:25, 14:40)
• Both agree court storming needs to be regulated—suggesting a waiting period before fans rush the floor: “There has to be a time rule... or else you forfeit.” (14:52, Kornheiser)

5. PGA Update: Chris Goderup’s Win and the Scheffler Hype

(Starts ~15:35)

• Wilbon asks if Goderup is a serious challenger to Scottie Scheffler’s PGA dominance.
• Tony: “Goderup is very good. He is now ranked fifth in the world. As my son says, ball speed doesn’t lie. He hits it 185 miles an hour.” (16:19)
• Tony tempers hype around both Goderup and Scheffler, rejecting Tiger Woods comparisons: “Don’t ever do that with Scottie Scheffler. Not yet.” (17:39)
• Wilbon: “I’m not willing to use the name Tiger Woods in relationship to Scottie Scheffler... and so some people do that. And I just go, shh.” (16:52)

6. Notable Headlines and Quick Hits

• Cooper DeJean’s Birthday Super Bowl Pick-Six: DeJean scored on his birthday, a rare feat for an Eagle (21:08).
• Billy Tubbs Anniversary: Tubbs’ legendary game management as Oklahoma coach; famous “regardless of how terrible the officiating is” quote (22:12).
• Clint Kubiak's New Job: Seahawks OC leaves for Raiders head coach role; drama with Max Crosby anticipated (23:22).
• Lindsey Vonn Update: She clarifies post-injury her ACL did not cause the crash, but rather a complex tibia fracture (24:22).
• NBA Notes: Jalen Williams returns for OKC; Damian Lillard in 3-point contest (24:43).
• College Hoops: #1 Arizona heads to Kansas, Wilbon picks Kansas at home (25:44).

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Defense-Win Over Patriots:
  • Wilbon: “The Seahawks beat the hell out the New England Patriots.” (01:43)
  • Kornheiser: “Sam Darnold was okay. He was not any better than okay. But he did not turn the ball over and he did not lose the game. And the defense was suffocating.” (02:53)
• On Seattle’s Young Coach:
  • Kornheiser: “It’s about time he gets the kind of praise that we always give to young offensive assistants.” (03:29)
• On Drake May’s Struggles:
  • Kornheiser: “He’s 23 years old, and it looked like the stage was a little bit too big for him.” (05:13)
  • Drake May (quoted): "If you don’t make plays, you end up crying at the podium." (06:16)
• On Lindsey Vonn’s Courage:
  • Wilbon: “She was courageous and heroic... It doesn’t make her less courageous. Matter of fact, it makes her more.” (08:35)
  • Kornheiser: “She is very courageous and heroic to try this. I feel that she did it, Mike, because she’s 41 years old. ... So I gotta go now, right?” (10:10)
• On UNC-Duke Finish:
  • Wilbon: “That shot was a scream out loud moment.” (13:39)
  • Kornheiser: "There has to be a rule as to when you can storm the court... or else you forfeit." (14:52)
• On Overhyped PGA Comparisons:
  • Wilbon: “I’m not willing to use the name Tiger Woods in relationship to Scottie Scheffler... I just go, shh.” (16:52)
• On Billy Tubbs’ legendary quip:
  • Kornheiser: “[Tubbs said] regardless of how terrible the officiating is, do not throw stuff on the floor.” (22:12)

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Timestamps of Important Segments

• Main Super Bowl Recap: 01:10–04:40
• Drake May Breakdown: 04:51–08:06
• Lindsey Vonn & Olympics: 08:06–11:31
• College Hoops Mailbag (UNC-Duke): 13:04–15:36
• PGA Tour/Scottie Scheffler: 15:35–17:47
• Rapid Sports Headlines & Updates: 21:08–25:53

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Tone and Style

Lively, quick-witted conversation with plenty of banter. The hosts blend serious analysis with humor, nostalgia, and personal anecdotes, giving listeners a mix of expert perspective and genuine fandom. Both lament the fading cultural appreciation for defense-first football and share real emotion regarding Vonn’s career-ending moment.

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For Listeners Who Missed the Episode

• If you wanted an in-depth breakdown of Super Bowl XL's defensive masterpiece, this episode delivers on Seattle’s dominance and what went wrong for New England and Drake May.
• Olympic fans get a nuanced, empathetic take on Lindsey Vonn’s injury and legacy, plus a nod to rising American talent.
• College basketball’s intensity gets due credit in their mailbag, spotlighting both the thrill of rivalry and the concern over court-storming.
• Additional coverage spans PGA golf, NFL coaching moves, and quick NBA/college hoops predictions.

This was a classic PTI: brisk, insightful, and loaded with signature Kornheiser and Wilbon chemistry.

Transcript

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[Mike Wilbon]

Pardon the interruption, but I'm Mike Wilbon. Tony. Some Olympic winners say their medals fell off their ribbons.

[Tony Kornheiser]

I'm Tony Kornheiser. That's another reason I'm glad I decided not to compete again this year.

[Mike Wilbon]

Well, that's kind of not hogging all.

[Tony Kornheiser]

The medals for yourself. Have you ever worn an Olympic medal around your neck ever? Once, yes. Heavy. No, I never have. Is it heavy? Not heavy.

[Mike Wilbon]

Kind of. Yeah, kind of heavy. Pleasant.

[Tony Kornheiser]

It's a good feeling.

[Mike Wilbon]

It's trans. You want to guess whose ribbon I wore? Whose medal I wore?

[Tony Kornheiser]

Who?

[Mike Wilbon]

Local. Local athlete.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Who? Dominique. Dominique? Yes. Did it look good on you?

[Mike Wilbon]

Cause it looks good on her. Looks great on Dominique.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Welcome to pti, boys and girls. In today's episode, Drake May struggles, Lindsey Vonn crashes, and North Carolina beats Duke in the final second. But we begin today with last night's Super Bowl, a dull affair where Seattle's defense dominated New England's offense. The final score was 29 13, but the Patriots did not score a point until the fourth quarter. They punted eight times and at the end of three quarters had only 78 yards of offense. Wilbaugh. We both had Seattle winning. How would you describe what you saw?

[Mike Wilbon]

Did you just say dull affair?

[Tony Kornheiser]

Yeah, I did that. Was it.

[Mike Wilbon]

IBIT copy. Yes. Okay, it was. But you know what, Tony? I didn't mind that as much. And I know some people, they get all jacked up to watch the super bowl and they got, you know, all kinds of feasts and Thanksgiving part two and all that. I want to see a great performance. And we saw one. To me, the Seahawks beat the hell out the New England Patriots. And look, you know, going back to October, I had Seattle as my number one seed.

[Tony Kornheiser]

I had the Rams.

[Mike Wilbon]

You had the Rams. We were both. We were in the game because that's what it boiled down to. And the way we'll get to Drake May specifically. But that defense brought it. They were better everywhere. They were better offensively. I mean, the MVP is the best weapon in the game. Yesterday, they didn't have to ask Darnold to do too much because the defense did everything. So this was a beat down from the start and I just give all the credit to Seattle and I wasn't disappointment even though it was a dull affair.

[Tony Kornheiser]

So what I would describe, what I saw would be non competitive at little bit, maybe a minute into the fourth quarter when a touchdown was finally scored and Seattle went up 16. Nothing. I wrote you these exact words on text. These exact words, game over, good night. Yeah. And you texted back, it ain't over. You familiar with the work of Mr. Sam Darnold? I did not waver. I went to bed. Sam Darnold was okay. He was not any better than okay. But he did not turn the ball over and he did not lose the game. And the defense was suffocating. The defense was a small little statistic here. In the last three games, Seattle has beaten the 49ers, the Rams and the Patriots, who among them had 44 wins going into those games. That's a lot of wins. And to me, this coach at Seattle, this kid who's 38 years old, it's about time he gets the kind of praise that we always give to young offensive assistance.

[Mike Wilbon]

It's not going to happen. Well, because he's a young defensive assistant. Well, it should have young defensive. Unless they are either unbelievably loud or cocky or obnoxious or something, they don't get the attention that the offensive assistants.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Get 38 years old. Listen, I feel bad in this regard. It was a great NFL season. Competitive, more so than we've seen in many years. It was a great playoff and it ends with a thud. But, and I know you like this, it ends with old fashioned football. And running.

[Mike Wilbon]

Yes, defense and running.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Which I know, I know that you like hunting, by the way. This team, the Seattle team in three playoff games was only behind 1 minute and 35 seconds. But the bandwagon team were not behind at all. Not behind.

[Mike Wilbon]

They were not at all. Nobody knows what that means except me.

[Tony Kornheiser]

1991.

[Mike Wilbon]

By the way, you love great teams.

[Tony Kornheiser]

I do.

[Mike Wilbon]

And yet you're not singing the praise of Seattle.

[Tony Kornheiser]

I will tell you why. Very simply. I mean, they. They don't have an identifiable name or face or star yet. They do not. They do not.

[Mike Wilbon]

You got time? Yeah, I'll be around next year too. Let's stay with the super bowl. But drill down as promised on Patriots quarterback Drake May, the man who finished a close second in the regular season MVP voting looked ordinary, if not overwhelmed. Last night he was sacked Six times, had three turnovers. Tone, what did you make of Mays Super Bowl?

[Tony Kornheiser]

I thought he had a bad game. As you're saying, sacked six times and three turnovers. Let me get this stat. Going into the fourth quarter, he had passed for only 60 yards. He's 23 years old, and it looked like the stage was a little bit too big for him. I think that's fair to say now, it's not all his fault. The left side of his offensive line caved in. Seattle just overwhelmed them. There were times, I think just in the video, you could see that his offensive linemen were being pushed into him. Now you want to say, well, get rid of the ball quicker. Well, he didn't really have a lot of time. Now, yes, he missed some open receivers, and yes, he had a bad game. But, Mike, he's been sacked 20 times in four playoff games. That is indicative that the offensive line isn't doing its job fully in those things. Get to the notes. Seattle defense was terrific. In the last three games, they've beaten the number one, number two, and number ten scoring teams in all of football. They gave up. They played the Rams three times. The Rams are really good. They gave up an average of 28 points to them. In all their other games, they gave up an average of only 14 points. They were all over May, which is why May said, and I give him all the credit in the world for this particular quote, if you don't make plays, you end up crying at the podium.

[Mike Wilbon]

That great line. Truer words have never been spoken. Are you familiar with. Of course you're familiar with. You might have covered this game. A Mr. Tony Eason.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Yeah, that was a brutal start. A brutal start.

[Mike Wilbon]

Yes. And a brutal result.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Yeah.

[Mike Wilbon]

And sometimes. And nobody wants to accept this anymore because people don't want to see defense. The league doesn't want to see it. Which is why they legislated out the stupid sponsors who put on all those dumb commercials last night.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Some of which was great, but that's.

[Mike Wilbon]

They don't want to see it. They want to see offense, everybody. What did we just say about the offensive assistant coaches? They're all praised to the heavens.

[Tony Kornheiser]

That's right.

[Mike Wilbon]

Nobody.

[Tony Kornheiser]

That's right.

[Mike Wilbon]

The Seattle defense beat the hell out of Tony Eason. I mean, Drake May.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Drake May.

[Mike Wilbon]

They beat him to death.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Yeah, he had no time to.

[Mike Wilbon]

People said he can get rid of the ball quicker. No, he can't. Because by the time he took a second step and planted, someone was in his grill.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Well, one of his offensive linemen was backing up to him that, look, we're not going to make any comparisons to Tom Brady after this game. Right.

[Mike Wilbon]

Because it wasn't that time again.

[Tony Kornheiser]

But he's, he's a kid and, and maybe he gets back, though. Marino did not get back.

[Mike Wilbon]

No, he didn't.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Drake May had a great season and a bad ending. That. What else are you supposed to say? He got beaten.

[Mike Wilbon]

He. He did. And, and go Friday. We both sat here knowing this was a possible outcome. Looking at that Seattle defense, looking at the struggles that New England had had in the playoffs and against some of the better teams they played. And that's exactly how it played.

[Tony Kornheiser]

New England's road to the super bowl, the last game they played was not even against the starting quarterback. So they, you know, Seattle's road was in the tougher conference with the toughest division.

[Mike Wilbon]

It was.

[Tony Kornheiser]

And they kept playing those games over and over.

[Mike Wilbon]

I still, I still think Drake May's future is bright.

[Tony Kornheiser]

It should be bright.

[Mike Wilbon]

It should be.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Should be bright. Yeah. Let's move to the Olympics and the spectacular and heartbreaking crash of 41 year old Lindsey Vonn. Just 14 seconds into her run in the downhill yesterday morning, Vonn was screaming in pain. She was airlifted off the mountain and into surgery when where she reportedly had a broken leg. American skier Breezy Johnson won the event. Wilbon, let us start with Vaughn. You saw her as courageous and heroic when she announced she would race despite a torn acl. What are your thoughts on how the story ended?

[Mike Wilbon]

She was courageous and heroic and I found out about the ending. I was doing something else. Getting a car wash, actually. And I said, I'll get back home. And I got streaming. I can always start at the beginning. That's an option. And then I start getting texts about what exactly happened. And I said, you know what? Not only am I not going to start at the beginning, I'm not starting at all. I don't want to see this. It doesn't make her less courageous. It doesn't. Matter of fact, it makes her more. She knew this was a possibility of having to sustain this kind of pain, physical and emotional. I'm not going to use the word tragic, but it was devastating and I'm not going. I told you, I called you yesterday and I said, I am not watching.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Yeah, I know it's not that hard to believe, but I accept it.

[Mike Wilbon]

You wanted to see Lindsey Von go out like this.

[Tony Kornheiser]

I felt I had to. I knew I was going to talk about it and I had to. Look, I'm going to Play newspaper man here for a second, okay? Breezy Johnson won this event. She's only the second woman American woman of all time to win the downhill. Lindsey vonn won it 16 years ago, I believe. So this is a huge deal. But if I'm writing the headline to this story, the first deck of the headline says Vaughan crashes. The. The second deck says Breezy Johnson wins. Because Von's crash is. In fact, it's the biggest story about.

[Mike Wilbon]

The star that Seattle doesn't have. Lizzie Von's a big star. As a matter of fact, she's the biggest American star in the Olympics, Right? She's our biggest star.

[Tony Kornheiser]

She was going into it. I mean, it's two weeks to go. I felt the need to watch this. I waited for the replay. I sat around and waited for it, and I watched it. And even though I knew what had happened, I. I was unprepared for what that was like. I was unprepared for what that was like. Look, she is very courageous and heroic to try this. I feel that she did it, Mike, because she's 41 years old. She had been retired. And she said, if I lay out of this one, I can't come back at 45. So I gotta go now, right? I gotta go now. Now. Is she crazy? Are they. They're all crazy.

[Mike Wilbon]

Yes, they're dear.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Downhillers are all lose territory.

[Mike Wilbon]

Somebody close to her now, her dad said, later.

[Tony Kornheiser]

I know this is over.

[Mike Wilbon]

She's not doing this. I bet you he told her that two days ago, too. Don't you wish somebody had said to her, lindsey, don't do this.

[Tony Kornheiser]

They're going 80 miles an hour. When a crash happens, it's going to be bad. Yeah, Let me review this. You didn't want to see the replay, and you told me you thought that somebody should have gotten to her. Why? Why, Mike? What is the story you tell most? What's the story you tell most? Let's look this up, because I wrote it down.

[Mike Wilbon]

What?

[Tony Kornheiser]

Ronnie Lott. What did he do? Got his finger cut off. And you always brag about that. You always say, that's what he did to win. So this is what she did to win. I was young and you didn't watch.

[Mike Wilbon]

I was young and stupid then.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Well, now you're all here. That's the way it works. Let's take a break. When we come back, our reactions to Seth Trimble's shot that lifted North Carolina over Duke.

[Mike Wilbon]

And after Chris Goderup's win Sunday, do we have to start seeing him as a serious Challenger to Scotty.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Okay, Ronnie Lott, you heroic.

[Mike Wilbon]

You thought lot was crazy. We have reversed positions.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Come on now you know well, all downhillers are crazy.

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[Tony Kornheiser]

Let's find out what's on the minds of the minions in mail time. Let me get the first one and read it to you. Let's see.

[Mike Wilbon]

Mail time in the millions.

[Tony Kornheiser]

What did North Carolina's last second upset of Duke do for you?

[Mike Wilbon]

For me personally, it gave a little oomph to the college basketball season. I'm ready to go now. I spent the rest of the weekend, if I wasn't watching golf or the super bowl, watching a lot of college basketball. I. I watched byu. I'm. I'm confused on nights. I think it was also Saturday night. I'm going to watch Arizona tonight then. Now I'm into it now. And this shot, this shot was a scream out loud moment. I was at a place, you know, at a bar, at a club in Columbia.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Okay.

[Mike Wilbon]

And the kid who made that pass and the previous shot is from Washington D.C. derek Dixon. It was a thrilling moment.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Right. Is he a Gonzaga kid?

[Mike Wilbon]

Yes, he is.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Do you know his father? Like you know all the fathers of.

[Mike Wilbon]

Yeah, a little bit. But, you know, but here's the thing, Tony. That shot, we've seen that go the other way. We saw Austin Rivers do that. What was that 10 years ago?

[Tony Kornheiser]

More.

[Mike Wilbon]

More than 10 years ago. But that for that rivalry to go that way and end that way is wow.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Okay. It was a great ending. It was a perfect pass across court. It was a perfect shot. It was the only time Carolina led. It's everything you could ask for in.

[Mike Wilbon]

A game 14 years ago.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Here's my but. Here's my but. Okay. The court storming. This is a bad thing.

[Mike Wilbon]

I agree.

[Tony Kornheiser]

John Scheier should not have to worry about about the safety of his staff, his players and his family. And another thing. What is North Carolina doing storming the court? They've won six NCAA championships.

[Mike Wilbon]

And this is. The hated Russia stormed Duke.

[Tony Kornheiser]

They've beaten Duke hundreds of times. They knocked Mike Krzyzewski into retirement.

[Mike Wilbon]

Should the fine be three times? I think it was 50 grand in the ACC. Should the fine bed 150? No.

[Tony Kornheiser]

There has to be a rule as to when you can if it's essential to the college experience. And I'm willing to grant that.

[Mike Wilbon]

Yeah.

[Tony Kornheiser]

There has to be a time rule where you have to wait two minutes or five minutes because the court is still going to be there or else you forfeit. They have to get the kids off.

[Mike Wilbon]

The court to go back for the final 4/10 of a second.

[Tony Kornheiser]

I understand that, but it was. We shouldn't have that. No, shouldn't have. I mean, don't gin up the rivalry to where it gets crazy.

[Mike Wilbon]

There's video of me storming the court for Northwestern. Purdue.

[Tony Kornheiser]

What? One game that they won that year.

[Mike Wilbon]

We beat Purdue twice.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Whoa. With Zach Heaty one rank time.

[Mike Wilbon]

Wow.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Good for you.

[Mike Wilbon]

And made the tournament good for you. So what how Binghamton do.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Not as well.

[Mike Wilbon]

Okay.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Not as well as that.

[Mike Wilbon]

Do we need to start taking this Chris Golarup kid seriously As a guy who could challenge Scottie Scheffler's recent dominance of the PGA Tour?

[Tony Kornheiser]

Okay. I may have watched every stroke of this tournament for at least three days.

[Mike Wilbon]

I did too.

[Tony Kornheiser]

I was going back and forth during the playoff. I'm going back and forth with the Super Bowl.

[Mike Wilbon]

The beginning of the Super Bowl.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Adeki Matsuyama is a great player. He could not find the fair way.

[Mike Wilbon]

Off the tee twice.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Only twice all day. And then at the tee shot on 18 in regulation and the tee shot on 18 in the overtime. He had terrible shots. So I felt bad for him in that regard. Goderup is very good. He is now ranked fifth in the world. As my son says, ball speed doesn't lie. He hits at 185 miles an hour.

[Mike Wilbon]

Neither does he.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Winning five times he hits it 315 in the air.

[Mike Wilbon]

Right.

[Tony Kornheiser]

But if you're asking me about Scottie Scheffler, come on now. Scottie Scheffler in This tournament was two over on the first day. In the last three days was 17 under.

[Mike Wilbon]

Yeah.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Gotterup was eight under on the last three days. My feeling, isn't it Pizza Tour wins recently.

[Mike Wilbon]

In the rearview mirror, things are larger than they appear.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Yeah. Goderup has four, McIlroy has five. Scottie Scheffler has 14. So slow down, Sparky.

[Mike Wilbon]

I would just say this. I. You know, I don't think. I'm not willing to use the name Tiger woods in relationship to Scottie Scheffler. And so some people do that. And I just go, shh. Because Scottie Scheffler has not changed the history of golf.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Oh, anything. Tiger will change the history of golf.

[Mike Wilbon]

He may gaze on this. Right.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Tiger woods had. There were cultural implications as well. That too.

[Mike Wilbon]

That too. So all I'm saying is, you and I started asking each other a year ago, who the hell is this kid?

[Tony Kornheiser]

He went to Rutgers. Yeah.

[Mike Wilbon]

And he was here and went to Oklahoma. Player of the year.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Here's who's changed golf in that dramatic a fashion. Arnold Palmer popularized golf. And Tiger woods is something that we had never seen. I'm not including anyone else.

[Mike Wilbon]

No. No, you're not. But people speak this way, and I just want to smack them. Don't ever do that with Scottie Scheffler. Not yet.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Not yet.

[Mike Wilbon]

Not for about three more years.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Not yet. With Goddard. Vis a vis Scottie Scheffler. That's enough email. Let's take one last break. Still to come, your boy, Damian Lillard returns to the NBA in a curious capacity.

[Mike Wilbon]

Yeah, kind of. Number one, Arizona. I asked you about this. Get his first loss of the season tonight.

[Tony Kornheiser]

So now you're watching.

[Mike Wilbon]

Yes.

[Tony Kornheiser]

You're into college.

[Mike Wilbon]

I'm into it.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Okay.

[Mike Wilbon]

Okay.

[Tony Kornheiser]

But you're not into the Olympics.

[Mike Wilbon]

No.

[Tony Kornheiser]

You gotta get into the skating.

[Mike Wilbon]

Get the skating off the air.

[Tony Kornheiser]

What about the scheme? What about the bobsled? What about all.

[Mike Wilbon]

I love bobsled.

[Tony Kornheiser]

You don't like speed skating.

[Mike Wilbon]

Yeah, I do.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Okay.

[Mike Wilbon]

There's only one thing I don't like. It dominates the air.

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[Tony Kornheiser]

Happy time people. Happy 23rd birthday. Cooper DeJean, the Eagles second year cornerback made first team All Pro this past season after 64 solo tackles and 16 deflected passes. DeJean was drafted by the Eagles in the second round out of Iowa in 2024 and had just one interception as a rookie. But what an interception it was. DeJean picked off Patrick Mahomes in the second quarter of the Super bowl and ran it back 38 yards for a touchdown and six of the Eagles 40 points in their 40:22 win. That game was played on DeJean's 22nd birthday, making him the first player since fellow Eagles team Steve Van Buren to score a touchdown in the championship game on his birthday. Granted, a limited opportunity pool shows you.

[Mike Wilbon]

Also, our times have changed. Steve Van Buren's birthday was on December 28th. That's when the season now wants to just preoccupy you until Memorial Day. And by the way, Van Buren, did you know he led in all the rushing categories? That mattered when he retired in the early.

[Tony Kornheiser]

I wasn't aware of that, but he was a great star with the Eagles.

[Mike Wilbon]

He was a.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Happy anniversary, Billy Tubbs. This is posthumous. But on this day, 37 years ago, while coaching Oklahoma, Tubbs grabbed a courtside microphone at the Lloyd Noble center to address outraged Sooners fans who were seeing their team losing to Big Eight rival Missouri. Attempting to calm the storm, Tubbs stated, quote, the referee requests that regardless of how terrible the officiating is, do not throw stuff on the floor. Floor, unquote. Crowd erupted, Tubbs was teed up. OU rallied to beat Mizzou 112. 105. Tubbs was a basketball lifer, compiling a 641 and 300 coaching record. He won over 100 games at three different schools, Oklahoma, TCU and his alma mater, Lamar, whose court is named the Billy and Pat Tubbs court in honor of the coach and his wife.

[Mike Wilbon]

You've been to Norman, Oklahoma, right?

[Tony Kornheiser]

I have.

[Mike Wilbon]

You know how big and how omnipresent the university is when they put the Thunder there. When they expand, they put the Thunder NBA. I just thought they'd be a footnote. They could never, you know, measure up to the university.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Wrong.

[Mike Wilbon]

Well, oh my God.

[Tony Kornheiser]

I think if people in the state, if they put them in a football team, that would have happened. But that was a basketball.

[Mike Wilbon]

Okay, maybe so.

[Tony Kornheiser]

An official. Happy trails to the Seahawks for offensive coordinator Clint Kubiak after winning the Super Bowl. Kubiak confirmed last week's reports that he's the new head coach of the Las Vegas Raiders, saying, quote, hell yeah, I'm going. I'm fired up about it, unquote. Seattle's offense ranked third in points scored and eighth in yards under Kubiak in his first season with the team. The 38 year old is the Son of former NFL quarterback Gary Kubiak, who won a Super bowl as Broncos head coach in 2015. And his first challenge may be mending fences with Max Crosby, our friend Jason Lock. And for reports that the star pass rushers reps have been telling teams that Crosby will never play for the Raiders again.

[Mike Wilbon]

So about the Kubey eye for a second. The dad, you know who he backed up a few times going to super bowl games.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Although a loser, I'm gonna guess it's John Elway.

[Mike Wilbon]

John Elway.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Three times.

[Mike Wilbon]

How about that?

[Tony Kornheiser]

Yeah, he's in the ring. John Elway went to five, won the last.

[Mike Wilbon]

People don't even acknowledge John Elway. Sure, they talk about these dopes and they don't acknowledge John Elway.

[Tony Kornheiser]

One update. Lindsey Vonn said in a statement just now that her ACL injury had nothing to do with her crash. And then she sustained a complex tibia fracture which is stable but will require surgeries to fix. She's still heroic. It was a great try. Didn't you think she's heroic? Yeah, I'm just not watching it. No, you're not watching it?

[Mike Wilbon]

No.

[Tony Kornheiser]

And you wanted her not to do it.

[Mike Wilbon]

I'm weak.

[Tony Kornheiser]

But Ronnie Lott. You said cut his finger off. Let's go to the big finish. The Thunder gets Jalen Williams back tonight against the Lakers, but Luka remains out. What's the bigger deal?

[Mike Wilbon]

Getting J. Dubs back? Oklahoma City needs to get rolling a little bit here. Luka will be back in time.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Not gonna win.

[Mike Wilbon]

Blazers star Damian Lillard will participate in the three point contest. You like that?

[Tony Kornheiser]

I do. I mean, he's a star and people would like to see him. And he's won this before.

[Mike Wilbon]

Put him in.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Third ranked South Carolina beat number 19 Tennessee by 43. Tennessee coach Kim Caldwell said, quote, I have a team that will quit on you and you can't do that in big games. Unquote. Your thoughts?

[Mike Wilbon]

Only a month before March Madness and they aspire to stuff. Can they get him? Can they get that team back? That's harsh. That's a hard, that's harsh thing to say. NFL.com reports Derek Carr could come out of retirement. I know he's retired. If the right team, the situation presents itself. You surprised to hear that?

[Tony Kornheiser]

No. He's a professional football player.

[Mike Wilbon]

He was just playing last year.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Yeah, he's not surprised. Last one, number one, Arizona at number nine, Kansas tonight at Kansas. Who you got?

[Mike Wilbon]

I'm moving for Arizona, but Bill Self, Kansas at home. They'll win in that game.

[Tony Kornheiser]

We're out of time. We'll try to do better the next time. Welcome to the world. Renan Luhrmann.

[Mike Wilbon]

Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Congratulations. I'm Mike Wilbon. Same time tomorrow, knuckleheads.

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