Should Pacers be Concerned After Loss?

Summary

PTI Episode Summary: "Should Pacers be Concerned After Loss?"
Released May 30, 2025

In this episode of PTI, ESPN's Tony Kornheiser and Michael Wilbon engage in their characteristic blend of insightful analysis and witty banter to dissect the latest happenings across major sports leagues. Skipping over the usual commercial interruptions, the hosts dive deep into key NBA playoff developments, NHL showdowns, MLB rivalries, and NFL quarterback prospects, providing listeners with a comprehensive overview of the current sports landscape.

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NBA Playoffs: Knicks vs. Pacers – A Strategic Victory

The episode kicks off with a thorough analysis of the New York Knicks' recent playoff victory over the Indiana Pacers. Tony Kornheiser sets the stage by highlighting the Knicks' defensive prowess:

"The Knicks hold the Pacers to under 100 points for the first time in these playoffs." [01:08]

Michael Wilbon underscores the significance of Indiana's concerns following the loss, emphasizing the Knicks' tactical adjustments:

"Indiana had better be concerned, Tony, because it's the way the Knicks went about it." [01:41]

Wilbon elaborates on the Knicks' defensive strategy against Tyrese Haliburton, comparing it to Oklahoma City's defense against Anthony Davis:

"They forced him to go side to side for the court and not straight line. And he's not Barry Sanders. That's not his game." [02:10]

Tony praises Jalen Brunson's defensive contributions, noting a remarkable drop in the Pacers' shooting efficiency:

"Jalen Brunson got after it last night and he was actually effective against whoever was trying to attack him and allowed only 21% of those matchups to result in baskets." [03:13]

Despite the Pacers' challenging position, Tony remains optimistic about the Knicks' chances to extend the series:

"Do I think that the Knicks can win this series? Sure, I do." [04:41]

NHL Playoffs: Oilers vs. Dallas – McDavid's Masterclass

Transitioning to hockey, Tony discusses the Edmonton Oilers' impressive elimination of Dallas, spotlighting Connor McDavid's game-winning goal:

"Connor McDavid did what Connor McDavid does." [05:32]

Mike lauds McDavid’s extraordinary skill and its impact on the game:

"He’s somehow able with a guy on his back to hold him off and then Deke and make the move at full speed without slowing down." [05:45]

Tony points out Edmonton’s strategic decision to bench goalie Jake Oettinger after a shaky start, reflecting on the broader implications for the team's dynamics:

"If you go back to last year's playoff, he's lost. He's lost, not the team." [07:54]

MLB Showdown: Yankees vs. Dodgers – A Midseason Classic

The conversation shifts to Major League Baseball, where Tony and Mike anticipate the marquee matchup between the New York Yankees and Los Angeles Dodgers:

"Historically, these are the two most important franchises ever in baseball." [09:07]

Tony highlights the star-studded lineups, mentioning MVP-caliber players like Shohei Ohtani and Aaron Judge:

"They lead their divisions. At the moment, I think they have scored the second and third most runs." [09:20]

Mike debates the timing of the series, suggesting that while the players are impressive, the early season context might diminish its overall impact:

"It doesn't matter. It's great. It's glamorous." [10:29]

Tony counters by emphasizing the historical significance and the high level of competition, despite the series occurring in May:

"The legacy of iconic players like Babe Ruth and Jackie Robinson attached to the Dodgers." [11:12]

Rising Stars: Junior Caminero's Breakout Performance

The hosts turn their attention to Junior Caminero of the Tampa Bay Rays, celebrating his outstanding six-RBI game:

"Junior Caminero's 6 RBI performance for the Rays last night must have felt blank to him." [14:13]

Tony reminisces about Caminero's pivotal moment in the Dominican World Series, highlighting his clutch performances:

"He proves to be the game winner. And he celebrates it by taking a full minute to round the bases." [14:21]

Mike expresses his excitement about Caminero’s potential, hoping for a trade that would allow fans to witness his talents regularly:

"Maybe the Cubs could trade for him and then you'd see him all the time." [16:02]

NFL Insights: Justin Fields and the Jets' Future

Shifting to football, the discussion centers on Justin Fields' confidence in his ability to elevate the New York Jets:

"Justin Fields says he can be great with the Jets, he sounds blank." [16:09]

Tony is skeptical, drawing parallels to past quarterbacks like Aaron Rodgers whose high expectations didn’t materialize:

"The sky's the limit for this team and this offense. And he says he can be great there." [16:15]

Mike concurs, critiquing Fields' understanding of the Jets' long road ahead:

"He sounds uninitiated as if he doesn't realize the jets actually don't play in the Premier League or shouldn't." [17:01]

Additional Sports Highlights

Phillies’ Zach Wheeler:
Tony praises Wheeler’s stellar season with the Phillies, noting his low ERA and critical role in the rotation:

"Wheeler is carrying most of the load this season as Nola is 17 with a 616 ERA." [20:08]

Mike acknowledges the Phillies' strong performance, despite his personal biases:

"The Phillies look to be just as good, if not better." [20:55]

Jim Tressel’s Legacy:
A reflection on Jim Tressel’s career and his impact on Ohio State’s football history, emphasizing how minor scandals can overshadow significant achievements:

"People gonna look back in history and say this guy lost his job for what?" [22:20]

Jonathan Toews’ Comeback:
Tony discusses Toews’ return to hockey after battling long COVID, highlighting his accolades and future prospects:

"Jonathan Toews has won three Stanley Cups, two Olympic gold medals and was named one of the NHL's top 100 players." [22:20]

Mike speculates on Toews' potential team involvement:

"I do Tony. He's been the captain for a long time." [22:51]

Milestone Achievements:
The hosts briefly mention Chris Sale reaching 2,500 strikeouts and Mike Trout’s return to the Angels:

"Chris Sale reached 2500 strikeouts and fewer innings than anyone in history." [23:32]
"Mike Trout returns tonight for the Angels. Is that still a big deal?" [23:45]

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Notable Quotes

• Mike Wilbon on Knicks' Defense:
  "Indiana had better be concerned, Tony, because it's the way the Knicks went about it." [01:41]

• Tony Kornheiser on Brunson’s Defense:
  "I would say Jalen Brunson." [01:41]

• Tony on McDavid’s Performance:
  "He’s somehow able with a guy on his back to hold him off and then Deke and make the move at full speed without slowing down." [05:32]

• Tony on Jets’ Prospects:
  "I can't root for the Jets. I just can't do it." [16:15]

• Mike Wilbon on Jim Tressel:
  "People gonna look back in history and say this guy lost his job for what?" [22:20]

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Conclusion

As the episode draws to a close, Tony and Mike reflect on the diverse array of sports stories covered, from strategic NBA wins and NHL dominance to MLB rivalries and NFL quarterback challenges. Their dynamic conversation offers both analytical depth and entertaining commentary, making the episode a must-listen for sports enthusiasts eager to stay informed on the latest developments across multiple leagues.

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Whether you missed the live broadcast or are looking to recap the key discussions, this PTI episode provides a rich and engaging summary of pivotal moments and standout performances in the world of sports.

Transcript

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[Mike Wilbon]

Pardon the interruption, but I'm Mike Wilbach. Tony, the national spelling bee was last night and the winning word was eclaircimon. Can you spell that?

[Tony Kornheiser]

No, I can't spell that. I've never even heard of it. I'm Tony Kornheiser. The kid who won. Can he spell antetokounmpo? That is something I care about.

[Mike Wilbon]

Or Krzyzewski? Kyzhewski? K, R, Z, Y, E, W, S, K I. Huh? Antetokounmpo or kzyzew? You can do that.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Claire Simon Eclair Simon, obviously that's French.

[Mike Wilbon]

I don't know why I heard ice cream treat.

[Tony Kornheiser]

I don't know what it means.

[Mike Wilbon]

A French ice cream treat, maybe.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Do you think it's like an eclair? Like a chocolate eclair? Wow. Welcome to pti, boys and girls. In today's episode, the Oilers advance the Yankees visit the Dodgers, and Justin Fields was once. Your boy says he can be great with the jets, but we begin today with the Knicks decisively beating the Pacers last night to stave off elimination and extend their series to at least game six. Wbo you were there to see the Knicks hold the pacers to under 100 points for the first time in these playoffs. Is this just one win for the Knicks or is it something for Indiana to be concerned about?

[Mike Wilbon]

Oh, Indiana had better be concerned, Tony, because it's the way the Knicks went about it. The Knicks diverted from the previous plan of games, three of which they'd lost three or four. And they found some new things. They planned it out and they executed it. They jumped Tyrese Halliburton from the opening tip in the backcourt and they did to him sort of a minor league version of what OKC's defense did to Ant. Man, they got all over Halliburton. They made it so that when he got to mid court, when he got across the timeline, as we used to call it, he had 17 seconds, sometimes 16 seconds left in the shot clock as opposed to the Pacers getting up shots within the first 12 seconds. They forced him to go side to side for the court and not straight line. And he's not Barry Sanders. That's not his game. He's got to get the ball, go north, south, and get them involved quickly. Ball in the basket. That's what the Pacers do. The Knicks didn't let him. And defensively, also Jalen Brunson, who the Pacers had targeted in the first four games of the series. Jalen Brunson got after it last night and he was actually effective against whoever was trying to attack him and allowed only 21% of those matchups to result in baskets, as opposed to more than 60% in the previous games. So, no, the Knicks did a lot more defensively than they done early.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Look at you, Mr. Analytics, getting those stats, those next gen stats. Okay? I had everything right. Everything. I had Edmonton winning last night. I had Oklahoma and Florida winning the night before. And I said to you, the only series of the four that I thought could or would go six was the Knicks and the Pacers. And then I said to you, if you ask me why I like the Knicks in this game, I would say Jalen Brunson. And Jalen Brunson went out. He scored 32 points. He had 4:14 in the first quarter. When the Knicks established themselves and took the lead. He shot 12 for 18 for the field, 4 of 7 from 3. The only thing I missed out on were Brunson's minutes. I said he was going to play 44 or 45, but the Knicks were ahead by 17 at the end of the third quarter. So he did not have to play 44 or 45. Do I think that the Knicks can win this series? Sure, I do. I think Indiana has been a little bit better. All those other teams were decisively better. Indiana has been a little bit better. Now, it is also very tough when you have lost three of the original four to come back and win the next three. It's very tough to do. And I expect Tyrese Halliburton to be better in Indiana because Mike, eight points, right? And only seven shots. That's an Ant man game. That's the right analogy. That doesn't work at all. Doesn't work.

[Mike Wilbon]

No, no. He's going to have to be better. But Tony, only the icons. The icons are great for like three, four games in a row in series. No, the, the, the. The. The nature, the rhyme and the rhythm of playoff basketball is up and down. First you, then him. So the question now is, superstars, what is Rick Carlisle going to do? And I bet he has something up his sleeve to free Halberton that's what he's got in the free Halliburton. And I'm not talking about his father. I'm talking about. Actually. That's right, Tyrese, not John.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Let's move to hockey. Edmonton eliminated Dallas last night, chasing the Dallas goalie early and eventually winning six to three. Edmonton was up three nothing. Dallas cut it to three two, and then Connor McDavid did what Connor McDavid does. Wilbon, you were jacked about that goal. How did the Oilers look to you?

[Mike Wilbon]

Oh, Tony, they look like a team that belongs now. I mean, I've been, you know, rooting for them for a few years now, like I do Toronto. Yep, one is made it, one is not. But, you know, Edmonton breaks through this because they have the best player in the world, Carter McDavid. And that goal. I mean, when you see Dallas score twice to get it to 3:2, and they're at home and people are going wild and, you know, Edmonton, you wonder people really believe in Skinner and goal anyway. You're like, oh, can they bring this back and make Tony Kornheiser wrong and make this a series of six or seven gamers as well? Maybe, maybe, maybe. And then Connor McDavid, Tony. It's the speed, but it's what he does with the speed with the puck, and he's somehow able with a guy on his back to hold him off and then Deke and make the move at full speed without slowing down, without having to gather. He's just so spectacular to watch. I want to watch him more. I want to watch him all the time. And so now we're going to get a chance that we should get. Yeah, Florida.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Best two teams in the play. Absolutely. Let's put this in some sort of perspective. Dallas won game one when they got five goals in the third period at home against Edmonton. From that point on, Edmonton won four games in a row and outscored Dallas 19 to 5. That differential is even greater than Florida's differential against Carolina, which I believe was 21 to 10. Edmonton, I think I'm right on this, lost the first two playoff games they played this year to the Kings. Since then, they are 12 2, and they have outscored in those games. They have outscored their opponents by 25 goals. Right. I mean, I know that PK Subban was concerned the other day when we chatted with him about the loss of Zach Hyman and what that would do to Edmonton, but it looks like Edmonton right now is rolling. I thought the weirdest thing was they pulled the Goalie Jake Ottinger. Do I have that name right? Like they pulled him almost immediately.

[Mike Wilbon]

Jake Ottinger, he just dumped him.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Two shots, two shots, two goals. You have to hear this quote. This is the quote from Peter Debore.

[Mike Wilbon]

That was oscillating for him.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Quote. I don't blame, I didn't blame all at all on Jake. But the reality is if you go back to last year's playoff, he's lost. He's lost, not the team. Six or seven games to Edmonton. If you give up two goals on two shots, that's a pretty big sample size. That's a Terry Bradshaw quote. That is saying to your goalie, so don't get out of here.

[Mike Wilbon]

What are you doing then? Wow, I ain't making change. Before you walk out of the skate, out of the dressing room. Wow, that was a while. He didn't blame him. He can say I didn't blame him, but I blame him.

[Tony Kornheiser]

I blame him. That's right. Yeah.

[Mike Wilbon]

And now to baseball where we have a World Series level matchup that begins tonight. The Yankees visit the Dodgers for three at Chavez Ravine. Don't hear anybody call it that anymore, not even in la, but I love that it'll be the first time the two teams have met since the Dodgers won the Fall Classic last year in five and the only time they'll meet in the regular season. This season. Both teams are loaded with stars. Both teams lead their divisions. Tony, do you see this mid season set as big deal, little deal or no deal?

[Tony Kornheiser]

How big do you want me to go? Historically, these are the two most important franchises ever in baseball. As you said they were in the World Series last year. They lead their divisions. At the moment, I think they have scored the second and third most runs. They've got the two biggest stars in the game in Shohei Ohtani and Aaron Judge. And they've got four other MVPs on the field, total of six. They got. Freeman is an MVP. Mookie Betts is an MVP. Cody Bellinger is an MVP. Paul Golfman is an MVP. Anybody who cares about baseball, I think they want to see that. The only thing that keeps me from saying that it's a huge deal is where it falls on the calendar because it's still May and there's 100 games left, right? But look, let's drill down on some of the accomplishments of these players. Max Freed is going to start for the Yankees. He's seven and oh, he leads the entire world in era 129. Ohtani leads the majors in Home runs judge leads the majors in batting average. Freeman is next. Goldschmidt is fourth. The catcher on the Dodgers, Will Smith is fifth. On Sunday, Yamamoto is going out there for the Dodgers. His ERA is 1.97. I don't know what else you could ask for. I know you would ask for the Cubs. I understand that, but the rest of us will love to watch this series.

[Mike Wilbon]

I might watch it, but it's no deal. There's no deal. Doesn't matter. It's great. It's glamorous. You are absolutely right about those players and watching them. By the way, if this is an NBA game and it had this many glamorous players got sentenced to the hall of Fame and it was played in, oh, early December, you would say it doesn't matter. There's 100 more games. Oh, wait, there are 100 more games in that sport. But there are 100 more games in, in this sport. So it's no deal. It doesn't matter. Worth the damn to the standings or what's going to happen in October when it would be a big deal if they meet again. But, but all those guys, they do matter.

[Tony Kornheiser]

And by the way, joyful occurrence in the schedule.

[Mike Wilbon]

It is by the way, by the way.

[Tony Kornheiser]

And it's by the way, it's compelling. Go ahead.

[Mike Wilbon]

You said it's two. The two most important franchises in baseball. And I'm, I'm, I'm historically, I'm reluctant, I'm reluctant to bring this up. I'm going to do this. Maybe reali can help us with this. Haven't the Cardinals won more World Series than the Dodgers in the National League? Yes, I think they have.

[Tony Kornheiser]

I didn't. Okay. But I would say historically, because one is the franchise of Babe Ruth and one is the franchise of Jackie Robinson.

[Mike Wilbon]

I was going to say.

[Tony Kornheiser]

And so I would say historically, that.

[Mike Wilbon]

Was the only counter I was going to let go.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Thank you.

[Mike Wilbon]

Only one.

[Tony Kornheiser]

There you go. What do you think? You think I have no notes here? You think I'm dumb?

[Mike Wilbon]

What?

[Tony Kornheiser]

Let's take a break. Coming up, 21 year old Junior Commero a home run and six RBI last night. But how big of a highlight was it for him?

[Mike Wilbon]

And Justin Fields says he can be great with the Jets. What's the word for that? I'm gonna say The Cardinals have 10 series. I don't know.

[Tony Kornheiser]

I'm guessing I'm smart, Mikey. I'm not dumb. I'm smart.

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[Tony Kornheiser]

It'S time to flex our lexicon. What's first?

[Mike Wilbon]

Junior Caminero's 6 RBI performance for the Rays last night must have felt blank to him.

[Tony Kornheiser]

My word is eh, you know? I mean, I know six RBI is great. And he was three for six. He had a single. He had a double. He had a home run. His team beat the Astros 13 3. So he beat them all by himself. But he's had a greater performance than this. Do you remember him from the Dominican World Series? This was a guy in the final game of the Dominican World Series. The score is tied. It's the top of the ninth inning. He hits a ball like 456ft, all right, and ultimately proves to be the game winner. And he celebrates it by taking a Full minute to round the bases. He shakes everybody's hand like he's running for office. A full minute. I mean, you said at that time was the coolest thing you ever saw. So I'm assuming now that your memory is jogged you're going to say it again.

[Mike Wilbon]

Yes. Yes. And my word for what he did, the six RBIs is just I. It's I. And I mean, you know, there was no such celebration to accompany it. The bad thing is this kid plays in Tampa, I'm never going to see him. I'm never going to see this kid play. When I say kid, he's 21 years old. He may be baseball's Lamine Yamal. He may be that he's like the best hitting third baseman in the American League. Home run slugging, rbi. I mean, he seems to be on the verge of stardom and I'm never going to see him playing for Tampa. Maybe if they put him on the Dodges of the Yankees, somebody can make room and I can actually see him. In the meantime, it's all I.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Maybe the Cubs could trade for him and then you'd see him all the time.

[Mike Wilbon]

We need him.

[Tony Kornheiser]

I'm talking about him.

[Mike Wilbon]

I'll take him.

[Tony Kornheiser]

What's next?

[Mike Wilbon]

When Justin Fields says he can be great with the jets, he sounds blank.

[Tony Kornheiser]

My word is three words. Like Aaron Rodgers. Justin Fields said yesterday. Here's a quote. The sky's the limit for this team and this offense. And he says he can be great there. And then he concedes. It's another quote. We do have a long way to go. You think The jets were 5 and 12 last year. The last time the jets were in the playoffs was 2010. They have had one winning season since then and every quarterback they get is anointed as the next savior. Sam Darnold, Zach Wilson, and then Aaron Rodgers. Aaron Rodgers really believed that he could take the jets to the Super Bowl. How did that work out? It didn't happen.

[Mike Wilbon]

Yeah.

[Tony Kornheiser]

So I'm going to wish Justin Fields a lot of luck and hope he doesn't end up chewing on bark.

[Mike Wilbon]

Yeah, we're going to agree down the line on this one. You know, I still love Justin Fields, even though he's not wearing, you know, the midnight and orange. I, I, I, I root for him. But he sounds uninitiated when he says this, as if he doesn't realize the jets actually don't play in the Premier League or shouldn't. They should have been relegated. And while he's played in a place where quarterback means even less than quarterback means with the Jets. He plays at a place where they're just more forlorn. They've been wandering through the desert for longer. He said we're not far. I mean, how we're, you know, sort of far away. Far away is California. Walking it from New York. So he sounds uninitiated. It's hard for me. I can't root. With all apologies to you and Greeny, my two favorites. Can't root for the Jets. Can't root for the Jets. I just can't do it.

[Tony Kornheiser]

I get it. That's the final word. Let's take one last break. But still to come, Has Patrick Mahomes really ruled out playing flag football in the Olympics?

[Mike Wilbon]

Yeah. Yeah. Somebody will rule it out for him. With sense. Who should win tomorrow's Champions League final?

[Tony Kornheiser]

Huh?

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Huh?

[Mike Wilbon]

No, Lamina. More than that, I wish it was.

[Tony Kornheiser]

It doesn't ever work. Quarterbacks. It's 50 years. 60 years.

[Mike Wilbon]

Not since 12. Not since 12 was there.

[Tony Kornheiser]

That'll work. Since then. No, it's not. No, it don't work.

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[Tony Kornheiser]

Happy time people. Happy 35th birthday zone. Zach Wheeler the veteran right hander is half of the Phillies 12 starting punch alongside Aaron Nola. But Wheeler is carrying most of the load this season as Nola is 17 with a 616 ERA. Wheeler has been joined at the top of the rotation by Jesus Lozardo and Ranger Suarez, who are 90 combined. Wheeler is in his 11th season in the bigs, his sixth in Philadelphia. This year he's 62 with a.296 ERA and the second lowest WHIP in the National League. While in Philadelphia, Wheeler is 65 and 34 with a 294 ERA. Wow. Prior to Philadelphia, Wheeler was 4438 with the Mets. Wheeler's made two All Star teams and twice finished second in the Cy Young.

[Mike Wilbon]

The Phillies are a team I can work up a pretty good hatred for Tony and they're worthy of it. I mean, they might be the best team right now with all the slurpage of the Dodgers. I get it. But the Phillies look to be just as good, if not better.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Solid playoff team for years now and not so Happy anniversary Jim Trestle on this day 14 years ago, Trestle was forced to resign as Ohio State's football coach after several NCAA violations as a result of a tattoo parlor scandal proved too much for school officials to ignore. This seems so quaint now, in the era of cash payments to players. Trestle's teams played in three BCS National Championship games, won the title in 2002 with a 14. 0 record. Trestle's 229 victories at Youngstown State and Ohio State ranked just ahead of Steve Spurrier and not far behind Bo Schembechler and Woody Hayes. Trestle later became president of Youngstown State and he's currently the lieutenant governor of Ohio.

[Mike Wilbon]

Yeah, tattoo that, huh? I like Trestle on the sideline because he would wear nice cashmere and merino vests. I like that look out of Trestle. All these scandals that relate at one point to texting or tattoos. How stupid does that seem now? People gonna look back in history and say this guy lost his job for what?

[Tony Kornheiser]

Yeah, Trestle, by the way, contemplating a run for governor. Happy trails to recovery for Jonathan Toews. The longtime Blackhawks star captain told his agent he's ready to return to hockey after stepping away for two seasons while battling long Covid. Toews has won three Stanley Cups, two Olympic gold medals and was named one of the NHL's top 100 players from the league's first 100 years. 37 year old, is a free agent. Can speak to any of the league's 32 team teams immediately. Wilbon. I bet you have one in mind.

[Mike Wilbon]

I do Tony. He's been the captain for a long time. I don't know if that's in the cards in a rebuild like the Blackhawks are undergoing. May not be but. But Taze and Kane. I mean Kane got more shine because of he just more spectacular player. But Taze, man, these are all time greats. All time great partnership.

[Tony Kornheiser]

One Correction Eclair Sisment is not a word that means ice cream treat. Though it should. It means a clearing up of something obscure. Come on Wilbon, be better.

[Mike Wilbon]

By the way, this is probably my last show at the Seaport in New York, Tony. The last one. I probably did a hundred shows here. What was your favorite memory of the Seaport era?

[Tony Kornheiser]

Don't have any really. I don't know much about it. I think I did two shows. Let's go to the big finish. Chris Sale reached 2500 strikeouts and fewer innings than anyone in history. I'll bet you're impressed yet by anyone.

[Mike Wilbon]

That list includes Nolan Ryan. That's all that matters. Mike Trout returns tonight for the Angels. Is that still a big deal?

[Tony Kornheiser]

I hope so. He has been robbed of his greatness by injuries. Rob, great player. Patrick Mahomes says he will likely leave Olympic flag football to younger players. Does that make sense to you?

[Mike Wilbon]

I know the NFL players all want this to be a big deal to to everybody. Sorry, it's not. Football's a big deal. Tackle football, not flag. That's something my kid plays. The Eagles are reportedly close to trading edge rusher Bryce Huff to the Niners for a mid round draft choice. Is that significant?

[Tony Kornheiser]

It would reunite him with Robert Sala, who he played for with the jets. And he was quite good. Last one. Champions League final tomorrow PSG and Inter Milan. Who you got?

[Mike Wilbon]

I got PSG Tone. They got rid of a lot of their stars like Mbappe. If they win. They never won. They win without those guys. Pretty big deal.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Pretty special. We are out of time. We will try and do better the next time. I am Tony Cornheim.

[Mike Wilbon]

And I'm Mike Wilbon. Have a great weekend. Knuckleheads.

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