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With the Chainalysis 2025 Crypto Crime Report about to be released and the news about Bybit and the largest crypto hack in history, there is no better time than to discuss DPRK, sanctions evasion and the rise of crypto services used by illicit actors, including Huione Guarantee and Russian Instant Exchangers. In this episode, we feature our own national security and intelligence experts at Chainalysis, Eitan Danon (Content Marketing Manager) and Andrew Fierman (Head of National Security Intelligence). The duo acknowledges the emerging networks and alliances among nations like Russia, Iran, North Korea and China and how blockchain technology is transforming sanctions enforcement, citing examples like Hamas and North Korea. The conversation also highlights Russia's legislative changes and cross-border transactions, while placing an important awareness of professionalization in the crypto crime ecosystem and the national security risks that the entire ecosystem faces. Minute-by-minute episode breakdown 2 | Sanctions and crypto and how to navigate geopolitical challenges 8 | Hamas and Al Qassam brigades use crypto donations for terrorist financing 11 | Emergence of Russian Instant Exchangers and Russian bank sanctions evasion 13 | Understanding “Secondary Sanctions” and how they apply to crypto 19 | Crypto networks and alliances forming amongst Russia, Iran, North Korea and China 23 | How Iran and Russia are using crypto to move conduct crypto cross border payments 27 | Southeast Asia and the surge of crypto crime and pig butchering schemes 29 | Exposing the Huione Guarantee service provider and why they are at the heart of the massive crypto crime ecosystem Related resources Check out more resources provided by Chainalysis that perfectly complement this episode of the Public Key. Website: Chainalysis: Building Trust In Blockchains Report: The Chainalysis 2025 Crypto Crime Report (Reserve Your Copy Today) Blog: Iranians Flock to Crypto Amidst Geopolitical Tension; International Sanctions Actions Disrupt Russia’s War Machine Announcement: Chainalysis Integrates with Unichain Announcement: Welcoming Valentina Longo as Chief Financial Officer Blog: Russia’s Cryptocurrency Pivot: Legislated Sanctions Evasion Blog: OFAC Highlights Hundreds of Millions of Dollars in Cryptocurrency Transactions Related to IRGC-connected Houthi Financier Sa’id al-Jamal Report: The Chainalysis 2025 Crypto Crime Report (Reserve Your Copy Today) YouTube: Chainalysis YouTube page Twitter: Chainalysis Twitter: Building trust in blockchain Speakers on today’s episode Eitan Danon *Host* (Content Marketing Manager, Chainalysis) Andrew Fierman (Head of National Security Intelligence, Chainalysis) This website may contain links to third-party sites that are not under the control of Chainalysis, Inc. or its affiliates (collectively “Chainalysis”). Access to such information does not imply association with, endorsement of, approval of, or recommendation by Chainalysis of the site or its operators, and Chainalysis is not responsible for the products, services, or other content hosted therein. Our podcasts are for informational purposes only, and are not intended to provide legal, tax, financial, or investment advice. Listeners should consult their own advisors before making these types of decisions. Chainalysis has no responsibility or liability for any decision made or any other acts or omissions in connection with your use of this material. Chainalysis does not guarantee or warrant the accuracy, completeness, timeliness, suitability or validity of the information in any particular podcast and will not be responsible for any claim attributable to errors, omissions, or other inaccuracies of any part of such material. Unless stated otherwise, reference to any specific product or entity does not constitute an endorsement or recommendation by Chainalysis. The views expressed by guests are their own and their appearance on the program does not imply an endorsement of them or any entity they represent. Views and opinions expressed by Chainalysis employees are those of the employees and do not necessarily reflect the views of the company.

“We should be able to dare criminals to use blockchain and cryptocurrency to conduct laundering. We should be able to dare them to launder on a public, unobscured ledger.” - Carole House This is a powerful statement to start off one of the most anticipated episodes of the year with one of our national security experts at Chainalysis, Eitan Danon speaking with Former White House National Security Council Special Advisor, Carole House. Carole provides her unique experience working on both sides of the biggest public private partnerships when it comes to emerging technology, crypto regulation, and national security. Carole explains the critical need for robust public-private partnerships to address the challenges of cybercrime and illicit finance and the importance of accountability and transparent standards in enhancing blockchain trust and security globally. They even found time to discuss promising intersections of artificial intelligence with blockchain, emphasizing AI's potential in scaling compliance and cybersecurity initiatives. Minute-by-minute episode breakdown 2 | From Army officer to crypto regulator: Carole House's journey 5 | Bridging gaps between government and crypto industry partnerships 11 | National security threats in the cryptocurrency ecosystem 16 | Global efforts and challenges in combating ransomware threats 22 | Building trust and accountability in the blockchain ecosystem 27 | Harnessing AI to combat cybercrime and enhance digital asset cybersecurity 32 | Public-private partnerships and digital identity in crypto sector 37 | The future of the digital economy and crypto Related resources Check out more resources provided by Chainalysis that perfectly complement this episode of the Public Key. Website: Chainalysis: Building Trust In Blockchains Insights: The White House Executive Order on Strengthening and Promoting Innovation in the Nation's Cybersecurity Article: Designing a blueprint for open, free and trustworthy digital economies Research Paper: Blockchain Privacy and Regulatory Compliance: Towards a Practical Equilibrium (Jacob Illum, Vitalik Buterin and others) Report: The Chainalysis 2025 Crypto Crime Report (Reserve Your Copy Today) Blog: 35% Year-over-Year Decrease in Ransomware Payments, Less than Half of Recorded Incidents Resulted in Victim Payments YouTube: Chainalysis YouTube page Twitter: Chainalysis Twitter: Building trust in blockchain Speakers on today’s episode Eitan Danon *Host* (Content Marketing Manager, Chainalysis) Carole House (Senior Fellow, Atlantic Council) This website may contain links to third-party sites that are not under the control of Chainalysis, Inc. or its affiliates (collectively “Chainalysis”). Access to such information does not imply association with, endorsement of, approval of, or recommendation by Chainalysis of the site or its operators, and Chainalysis is not responsible for the products, services, or other content hosted therein. Our podcasts are for informational purposes only, and are not intended to provide legal, tax, financial, or investment advice. Listeners should consult their own advisors before making these types of decisions. Chainalysis has no responsibility or liability for any decision made or any other acts or omissions in connection with your use of this material. Chainalysis does not guarantee or warrant the accuracy, completeness, timeliness, suitability or validity of the information in any particular podcast and will not be responsible for any claim attributable to errors, omissions, or other inaccuracies of any part of such material. Unless stated otherwise, reference to any specific product or entity does not constitute an endorsement or recommendation by Chainalysis. The views expressed by guests are their own and their appearance on the program does not imply an endorsement of them or any entity they represent. Views and opinions expressed by Chainalysis employees are those of the employees and do not necessarily reflect the views of the company.

A Scamdemic is something we could have never imagined, but with the evolution of blockchain, crypto and AI we are right in the middle of the new age of fraud. The best people to share what is at the heart of this systematic shift by criminals into the world of web3 are Caitlin Barnett (Director of Regulation & Compliance, Chainalysis) and Trisha Kothari (CEO & Founder, Unit21). Trisha shares her journey from a Google intern to leading a successful Regtech startup that is at the intersection of AI and fraud prevention. The duo explore strategies from tech giants, the rise of AI in financial fraud and the increasing prevalence of scams in the crypto industry. Trisha shares Unit21's innovative approaches to data monitoring, fraud detection and leveraging AI to enhance compliance, while highlighting the challenges and innovations in fraud prevention and the focus on mission-driven solutions to combat financial crime. Minute-by-minute episode breakdown 2 | Trisha’s early experimentation experience as an intern at Google 4 | The current state of fraud and the acceleration of it using AI 6 | Fraud detection and prevention in crypto and financial sectors 11 | $25 Million deepfake scam on hedge fund using AI 14 | How AI is changing the future of fraud and compliance work 17 | Traditional KYC is dead! 20 | Is 2025 the year of the SCAMDEMIC? 23 | Reducing false positives in fraud detection with AI 25 | Entrepreneurship, mission-driven work and building a team at Unit21 27 | AI integrations to combat elderly fraud Related resources Check out more resources provided by Chainalysis that perfectly complement this episode of the Public Key. Website: Unit21: The best place to build web3 products Demo: Unit21 for Crypto and Web3 Companies Webinar: Automating L1 Reviews With Unit21's AI Agent (Feb.12 - 1pm EST) Report: Annual State of Fraud and AML Report Blog: 35% Year-over-Year Decrease in Ransomware Payments, Less than Half of Recorded Incidents Resulted in Victim Payments Blog: Chainalysis Launches Enhancements to Help Organizations Know Your VASP Report: The Chainalysis 2025 Crypto Crime Report (Reserve Your Copy Today) YouTube: Chainalysis YouTube page Twitter: Chainalysis Twitter: Building trust in blockchain Speakers on today’s episode Caitlin Barnett *Host* (Director of Regulation & Compliance, Chainalysis) Trisha Kothari (CEO & Founder, Unit21) This website may contain links to third-party sites that are not under the control of Chainalysis, Inc. or its affiliates (collectively “Chainalysis”). Access to such information does not imply association with, endorsement of, approval of, or recommendation by Chainalysis of the site or its operators, and Chainalysis is not responsible for the products, services, or other content hosted therein. Our podcasts are for informational purposes only, and are not intended to provide legal, tax, financial, or investment advice. Listeners should consult their own advisors before making these types of decisions. Chainalysis has no responsibility or liability for any decision made or any other acts or omissions in connection with your use of this material. Chainalysis does not guarantee or warrant the accuracy, completeness, timeliness, suitability or validity of the information in any particular podcast and will not be responsible for any claim attributable to errors, omissions, or other inaccuracies of any part of such material. Unless stated otherwise, reference to any specific product or entity does not constitute an endorsement or recommendation by Chainalysis. The views expressed by guests are their own and their appearance on the program does not imply an endorsement of them or any entity they represent. Views and opinions expressed by Chainalysis employees are those of the employees and do not necessarily reflect the views of the company.

Solana, AI agents, predictions markets and memecoin culture. These are just some of the many predictions that anonymous crypto veteran, @redphonecrypto (Crypto and AI storyteller, Delphi Labs) shares with Bry, Senior Solutions Architect, Chainalysis) in what is one of the most jam packed episodes of 2025. He shares insights from his industry leading theses including AI's economic impact, Solana's retail trading resurgence and the potential mainstream integration of crypto by tech giants. He also provides predictions on decentralized networks, LLM-powered apps, the evolution of prediction markets and the emergence of memecoin culture that has shocked the industry. The duo also explore decentralized science, gaming, and the concept of web4 and its potential to eclipse web3. A must-listen for crypto enthusiasts and those curious about the future of finance and technology. Minute-by-minute episode breakdown 2 |The anonymity and security concerns in the crypto world 4 | Delphi Labs and the emergence of crypto and AI projects 8 | Crypto's mainstream integration and Solana's retail trading surge 14 | Predictions for 2025: The rise of LLM-based agents and prediction markets 24 | The future of tokenized assets and decentralized finance 30 | DePIN revolutionizing infrastructure, science and gaming 37 | X (twitter) announces new payment partnership with Visa 40 | Memecoins and AI-driven attention markets 45 | The evolution of crypto from memecoins to institutional investment 48 | Bitcoin DeFi and the emergence of ordinals 50 | DeepSeek, AI and the future of crypto and blockchain Related resources Check out more resources provided by Chainalysis that perfectly complement this episode of the Public Key. Website: The best place to build web3 products Article: 69 Theses: Predictions, lessons and longs for 2025 Newsletter: This newsletter is an idea… a reminder that power is an illusion that belongth to us ALL (& not to the few) Blog: Market Manipulation: Suspected Wash Trading on Select Blockchains May Account for Up To $2.57 Billion in Trading Volume Blog: Illicit Volumes Portend Record Year as On-Chain Crime Becomes Increasingly Diverse and Professionalized Blog: Cryptocurrency donations to extremist groups dip globally, but white supremacism, nationalism, and anti-Semitism grow across Europe Report: The Chainalysis 2025 Crypto Crime Report (Reserve Your Copy Today) YouTube: Chainalysis YouTube page Twitter: Chainalysis Twitter: Building trust in blockchain Speakers on today’s episode Bry *Host* (Senior Solutions Architect, Chainalysis) @redphonecrypto (Crypto and AI storyteller, Delphi Labs) This website may contain links to third-party sites that are not under the control of Chainalysis, Inc. or its affiliates (collectively “Chainalysis”). Access to such information does not imply association with, endorsement of, approval of, or recommendation by Chainalysis of the site or its operators, and Chainalysis is not responsible for the products, services, or other content hosted therein. Our podcasts are for informational purposes only, and are not intended to provide legal, tax, financial, or investment advice. Listeners should consult their own advisors before making these types of decisions. Chainalysis has no responsibility or liability for any decision made or any other acts or omissions in connection with your use of this material. Chainalysis does not guarantee or warrant the accuracy, completeness, timeliness, suitability or validity of the information in any particular podcast and will not be responsible for any claim attributable to errors, omissions, or other inaccuracies of any part of such material. Unless stated otherwise, reference to any specific product or entity does not constitute an endorsement or recommendation by Chainalysis. The views expressed by guests are their own and their appearance on the program does not imply an endorsement of them or any entity they represent. Views and opinions expressed by Chainalysis employees are those of the employees and do not necessarily reflect the views of the company.

Cryptocurrency has woven its way into the tapestry of geopolitical tensions, the evolving landscape of national security and the future of strategic policy making In this engaging episode, Eitan Danon, Content Marketing Manager at Chainalysis, talks about China, Russia and all things national security with Matthew Pines, Director, Security Advisory at SentinelOne, as they demystify the global tensions and cybersecurity implications. The conversation covers the intersection of Bitcoin and AI, the strategic implications for U.S.-China relations, and the evolving cyber landscape, including cyber deterrence and private sector responsibilities. With insights into national reserves, the role of stablecoin, and even discussions on UAPs and non-human intelligence, this episode has never ending twists landing on global power dynamics and emerging technologies shaping the future. Minute-by-minute episode breakdown 2 | Matt’s journey through startups, government contracts and entrance into Bitcoin 4 | Exploring Bitcoin, AI, and geopolitics with the new Trump administration 7 | China's global influence through techno authoritarianism 11 | China's strategy for alternative financial systems and global influence 15 | Global financial interdependence and sanctions in geopolitical conflicts 22 | Cybersecurity challenges and strategic deterrence against China 27 | Factoring in Bitcoin in geopolitical strategy and National Security discussions 33 | Strategic implications of potential Bitcoin reserve and global stablecoin usage 41 | Expectation Value: Matt’s book decrypting AI, and espionage activity in a novel world 43 | UAPs, non-human intelligence, and geopolitical implications for 2025 Related resources Check out more resources provided by Chainalysis that perfectly complement this episode of the Public Key. Website: SentinelOne: World-Leading Cybersecurity. Powered by AI Article: A “Global Economic Reordering:” US-China Competition and Bitcoin as Tool of US Statecraft Article: Great Power Network Competition & Bitcoin Book: Expectation Value Blog: 2025 Crypto Crime Report Preview: $2.2 Billion Stolen from Crypto Platforms in 2024, but Hacked Volumes Stagnate Toward Year-End as DPRK Slows Activity Post-July Blog: Illicit Volumes Portend Record Year as On-Chain Crime Becomes Increasingly Diverse and Professionalized Blog: Sui Foundation and Chainalysis Collaborate to Enhance On-Chain Compliance YouTube: Chainalysis YouTube page Twitter: Chainalysis Twitter: Building trust in blockchain Speakers on today’s episode Eitan Danon **Host** (Content Marketing Manager, Chainalysis) Matthew Pines (Director, Security Advisory, SentinelOne) This website may contain links to third-party sites that are not under the control of Chainalysis, Inc. or its affiliates (collectively “Chainalysis”). Access to such information does not imply association with, endorsement of, approval of, or recommendation by Chainalysis of the site or its operators, and Chainalysis is not responsible for the products, services, or other content hosted therein. Our podcasts are for informational purposes only, and are not intended to provide legal, tax, financial, or investment advice. Listeners should consult their own advisors before making these types of decisions. Chainalysis has no responsibility or liability for any decision made or any other acts or omissions in connection with your use of this material. Chainalysis does not guarantee or warrant the accuracy, completeness, timeliness, suitability or validity of the information in any particular podcast and will not be responsible for any claim attributable to errors, omissions, or other inaccuracies of any part of such material. Unless stated otherwise, reference to any specific product or entity does not constitute an endorsement or recommendation by Chainalysis. The views expressed by guests are their own and their appearance on the program does not imply an endorsement of them or any entity they represent. Views and opinions expressed by Chainalysis employees are those of the employees and do not necessarily reflect the views of the company.

The global stablecoin legislation discussion is increasing every day, but if you have a framework in Singapore, that's independent from the EU and the U.S., it defeats the whole purpose of having a stablecoin that's supposed to be frictionless and make global payments easier. In this engaging episode, Jason Somensatto, Head of North American Public Policy at Chainalysis, talks all things policy with Lesley Chavkin, Head of Global Public Policy at Paxos. They explore this evolving landscape of crypto policy and the intricacies of crypto regulation, the potential for stablecoins and the impact of policy-making on the future of digital assets. Lesley explains Paxos' global operations, including their strategic expansion in the EU and the implications of the Markets in Crypto-Assets (MiCA) framework, while sharing a behind the scenes look at their stablecoin partnership with PayPal’s PYUS, and the essential need for a robust federal regulatory regime in the U.S. to reinforce the US dollar dominance globally. Minute-by-minute episode breakdown 2 | Lesley’s career from the public sector with the CIA and Department of Justice 4 | Navigating crypto policy through global government and financial sectors 6 | Paxos: The “OGs” of blockchain infrastructure for enterprises 8 | Understanding the digital asset stakeholders that have an impact on policy 11 | The difference between a trust structure and a traditional bank 13 | Navigating the challenges of EU’s MiCA stablecoin regulations 16 | The role of stablecoins in payments and US dollar dominance 22 | Terra Luna: Understanding why all stablecoins aren’t created equally 26 | Explaining away concerns to regulators about financial crime in digital assets 33 | The need for a stablecoin federal regulatory program in the USA 39 | The future of stablecoin regulation and global financial innovation 41 | How governments could benefit by using stablecoins Related resources Check out more resources provided by Chainalysis that perfectly complement this episode of the Public Key. Website: PAXOS: Blockchain infrastructure for enterprises Blog: Stablecoin Policy 101: Dispelling 7 Common Misconceptions About Stablecoins Blog: Stablecoin Policy 101: State vs. Federal Regulation of Stablecoin Issuers Blog: Global Dollar Network and USDG: Reshaping the Future of Stablecoins Blog: 2025 Crypto Crime Report Preview: $2.2 Billion Stolen from Crypto Platforms in 2024, but Hacked Volumes Stagnate Toward Year-End as DPRK Slows Activity Post-July Chainalysis In Action: Operation Spincaster lands in Delta: Local police equipped to trace and freeze millions from scam wallet YouTube: Chainalysis YouTube page Twitter: Chainalysis Twitter: Building trust in blockchain Tik Tok: Building trust in #blockchains among people, businesses, and governments. Speakers on today’s episode Jason Somensatto *HOST* (Head of North America Public Policy, Chainalysis) Lesley Chavkin (Global Head of Public Policy, Paxos) This website may contain links to third-party sites that are not under the control of Chainalysis, Inc. or its affiliates (collectively “Chainalysis”). Access to such information does not imply association with, endorsement of, approval of, or recommendation by Chainalysis of the site or its operators, and Chainalysis is not responsible for the products, services, or other content hosted therein. Our podcasts are for informational purposes only, and are not intended to provide legal, tax, financial, or investment advice. Listeners should consult their own advisors before making these types of decisions. Chainalysis has no responsibility or liability for any decision made or any other acts or omissions in connection with your use of this material. Chainalysis does not guarantee or warrant the accuracy, completeness, timeliness, suitability or validity of the information in any particular podcast and will not be responsible for any claim attributable to errors, omissions, or other inaccuracies of any part of such material. Unless stated otherwise, reference to any specific product or entity does not constitute an endorsement or recommendation by Chainalysis. The views expressed by guests are their own and their appearance on the program does not imply an endorsement of them or any entity they represent. Views and opinions expressed by Chainalysis employees are those of the employees and do not necessarily reflect the views of the company.

The criminal landscape is evolving and nobody knows this better than the IRS Criminal Investigation (IRS-CI) unit, who has been an international leader when it comes to combating crypto and cyber-related crimes. In this episode, we are lucky to have Jim Lee (Global Head of Capacity Building, Chainalysis), who previously spent almost 30 years in IRS-CI sit down with Jarod Koopman, a leading figure in government law enforcement and the Executive Director of Cyber and Forensic Services at IRS-CI Investigations. The duo discuss the evolving landscape of financial crimes and the crucial role of digital assets and cyber technology, while Jarod shares his extensive experience and how his career shifted towards cyber investigations as cryptocurrencies gained prominence. He explains how IRS-CI stays ahead of crime through an innovative approach to investigations and deep international partnerships and collaborations in law enforcement and highlights the need for authorities around the world to stay on top of emerging typologies and the use of cutting edge AI technology. Minute-by-minute episode breakdown 2 | Jarod’s early days as a Federal agent working high stakes investigations 4 | The evolution of crime and cryptocurrency's impact on investigations 7 | Challenges in combating cybercrime and crypto-related offenses 11 | Global collaboration in combating crypto-related crimes 17 | International alignment in fighting tax crimes in crypto 22 | Unveiling the new IRS-CI's Advanced Collaboration and Data Center (“ACDC”) 28 | Understanding tax obligations for cryptocurrency gains in the US 32 | Government agencies face challenges amid budget cuts and hiring freezes 34 | Exploring AI and digital assets in financial fraud prevention 38 | Law enforcement's strategic approach to the Metaverse 40 | Emerging blockchain crimes and AI threats in Law Enforcement Related resources Check out more resources provided by Chainalysis that perfectly complement this episode of the Public Key. Website: IRS Criminal Investigation (CI) serves the American public by investigating potential criminal violations of the Internal Revenue Code and related financial crimes Report: IRS-CI 2024 Annual Report Article: Taxpayers need to report crypto, other digital asset transactions on their tax return Article: Former security engineer sentenced to three years in prison for hacking two decentralized cryptocurrency exchanges Blog: 2025 Crypto Crime Report Preview: $2.2 Billion Stolen from Crypto Platforms in 2024, but Hacked Volumes Stagnate Toward Year-End as DPRK Slows Activity Post-July Blog: Cryptocurrency in the War Zone: A Closer Look at Recent Events in Syria YouTube: Chainalysis YouTube page Twitter: Chainalysis Twitter: Building trust in blockchain Tik Tok: Building trust in #blockchains among people, businesses, and governments. Speakers on today’s episode Jim (James) Lee * Host * (Global Head of Capacity Building, Chainalysis) Jarod Koopman (Executive Director, Cyber and Forensic Services, IRS - Criminal Investigation) This website may contain links to third-party sites that are not under the control of Chainalysis, Inc. or its affiliates (collectively “Chainalysis”). Access to such information does not imply association with, endorsement of, approval of, or recommendation by Chainalysis of the site or its operators, and Chainalysis is not responsible for the products, services, or other content hosted therein. Our podcasts are for informational purposes only, and are not intended to provide legal, tax, financial, or investment advice. Listeners should consult their own advisors before making these types of decisions. Chainalysis has no responsibility or liability for any decision made or any other acts or omissions in connection with your use of this material. Chainalysis does not guarantee or warrant the accuracy, completeness, timeliness, suitability or validity of the information in any particular podcast and will not be responsible for any claim attributable to errors, omissions, or other inaccuracies of any part of such material. Unless stated otherwise, reference to any specific product or entity does not constitute an endorsement or recommendation by Chainalysis. The views expressed by guests are their own and their appearance on the program does not imply an endorsement of them or any entity they represent. Views and opinions expressed by Chainalysis employees are those of the employees and do not necessarily reflect the views of the company.

Russia’s invasion of Ukraine, tensions in the Middle East, Trump’s incoming administration, and BRICS’ exploration of de-dollarization, have compounded into what might be a pivotal year for alternative payments systems and geopolitics. In this episode, host, Eitan Danon (Content Marketing Manager, Chainalysis) sits down with Tom Keatinge, Director of the Center for Finance and Security (CFS) at RUSI to discuss the intersection of digital assets and geopolitics Tom shares his journey into crypto, highlighting a 2011 Bitcoin meetup in crypto OGs and explains RUSI's history and its focus on financial crime and state-based threats, emphasizing the role of alternative payment systems in geopolitical competition, particularly in the context of sanctions evasion. He highlights the increasing state-based activity in financial crime and the strategic importance of the global payment system, including the weaponization of SWIFT, the development of CBDCs and the potential impact of the incoming Trump administration on international financial relations. Minute-by-minute episode breakdown 2 | Tom’s early journey into crypto in 2012 as an academic 4 | The origins of the Royal United Services Institute (RUSI) and the creation of the Centre for Finance and Security (CFS) 6 | The strategic role of alternative payment systems in global security 10 | Sanctions and the impact it has on Russia and international alternative payment systems 14 | BRICs and the realities of de-dollarization in global markets 18 | Global financial alliances and increase of western strategic challenges 23 | The future of digital currencies and global economic shifts 27 | Global financial threats and strategic economic security challenges 31 | RUSI’s focus for 2025 on sanctions, terrorist financing and Europe’s economic challenges Related resources Check out more resources provided by Chainalysis that perfectly complement this episode of the Public Key. Website: RUSI: The world’s oldest and the UK’s leading defence and security think tank Article: The Other Bitcoin Boom: Crypto Mining in Russia’s Shadow Territories Article: Central Bank Digital Currencies and National Security: Policy Considerations Blog: OFAC Highlights Hundreds of Millions of Dollars in Cryptocurrency Transactions Related to IRGC-connected Houthi Financier Sa’id al-Jamal Blog: 2025 Crypto Crime Report Preview: $2.2 Billion Stolen from Crypto Platforms in 2024, but Hacked Volumes Stagnate Toward Year-End as DPRK Slows Activity Post-July Press Release: Welcoming Hexagate to Chainalysis and Investing in Prevention YouTube: Chainalysis YouTube page Twitter: Chainalysis Twitter: Building trust in blockchain Tik Tok: Building trust in #blockchains among people, businesses, and governments. Telegram: Chainalysis on Telegram Book: Paper Soldiers: How The Weaponization of the Dollar Changed the World Order - by Saleha Mohsin Speakers on today’s episode Eitan Danon * Host * (Content Marketing Manager, Chainalysis) Tom Keatinge (Director, Centre for Finance & Security (CFS) at RUSI) This website may contain links to third-party sites that are not under the control of Chainalysis, Inc. or its affiliates (collectively “Chainalysis”). Access to such information does not imply association with, endorsement of, approval of, or recommendation by Chainalysis of the site or its operators, and Chainalysis is not responsible for the products, services, or other content hosted therein. Our podcasts are for informational purposes only, and are not intended to provide legal, tax, financial, or investment advice. Listeners should consult their own advisors before making these types of decisions. Chainalysis has no responsibility or liability for any decision made or any other acts or omissions in connection with your use of this material. Chainalysis does not guarantee or warrant the accuracy, completeness, timeliness, suitability or validity of the information in any particular podcast and will not be responsible for any claim attributable to errors, omissions, or other inaccuracies of any part of such material. Unless stated otherwise, reference to any specific product or entity does not constitute an endorsement or recommendation by Chainalysis. The views expressed by guests are their own and their appearance on the program does not imply an endorsement of them or any entity they represent. Views and opinions expressed by Chainalysis employees are those of the employees and do not necessarily reflect the views of the company.

Whether it is seizing restaurants, hotels, cars or Bitcoin, our guest, Joanna Summers, Chief Recovery Officer of Asset Reality, has done it all with over a decade of experience working in both the public and private sector on complex asset forfeitures. In this episode, Ian Andrews (CMO at Chainalysis) speaks to Joanna about developing asset forfeiture programs for countries all over the world and working with the Asset Reality team on their new platform to streamline the asset seizure process. Joanna shares her history at the US Marshal Service Asset Forfeiture Division and how cryptocurrency slowly started to play a bigger role in investigations and seizures, including major cases like Silk Road. This episode was originally published on February 27, 2024 and we have recorded some recent updates from Joanna Summers on the latest crypto scams, FATF's 2025 asset recovery initiatives, and Asset Reality's exciting new training programs and partnerships. Minute-by-minute episode breakdown 2 | The role of asset forfeiture and the process of seizing and selling complex assets 6 | Joanna's first encounter with cryptocurrency during 2013 Silk Road investigation 9 | Joining Asset Reality and helping countries improve their asset forfeiture programs 13 | The Financial Action Task Force (FATF) focus on global asset recovery 17 | The digital asset recovery procedures and importance of moving crypto quickly into law enforcement controlled wallets 20 | Updated: FATF’s asset recovery priorities for 2025 22 | The emergence of pig butchering scams and how to protect consumers 26 | Joanna’s role as an ambassador for the Association for Women in Crypto 29 | Updated: New Crypto Crimes including: address poisoning, typo squatting and clipboard hijacking 32 | Updated: Taxbit Partnership and crypto recovery outlook for 2025 Related resources Check out more resources provided by Chainalysis that perfectly complement this episode of the Public Key. Website: The Future of Seized Assets: Asset Reality is the seized asset management platform Publication: Amendments to the FATF Standards to Strengthen Global Asset Recovery News: Asset Reality Integrates with Fireblocks for Digital Asset Custody Partnership: Asset Reality and Taxbit Partner to Enhance Digital Asset Seizure and Management Website: The association for WOMEN IN CRYPTO learn. network. advocate. Blog: 2025 Crypto Crime Report Preview: $2.2 Billion Stolen from Crypto Platforms in 2024, but Hacked Volumes Stagnate Toward Year-End as DPRK Slows Activity Post-July YouTube: Chainalysis YouTube page Twitter: Chainalysis Twitter: Building trust in blockchain Tik Tok: Building trust in #blockchains among people, businesses, and governments. Telegram: Chainalysis on Telegram Speakers on today’s episode Ian Andrews * Host * (Chief Marketing Officer, Chainalysis) Joanna Summers (Chief Recovery Officer, Asset Reality) This website may contain links to third-party sites that are not under the control of Chainalysis, Inc. or its affiliates (collectively “Chainalysis”). Access to such information does not imply association with, endorsement of, approval of, or recommendation by Chainalysis of the site or its operators, and Chainalysis is not responsible for the products, services, or other content hosted therein. Our podcasts are for informational purposes only, and are not intended to provide legal, tax, financial, or investment advice. Listeners should consult their own advisors before making these types of decisions. Chainalysis has no responsibility or liability for any decision made or any other acts or omissions in connection with your use of this material. Chainalysis does not guarantee or warrant the accuracy, completeness, timeliness, suitability or validity of the information in any particular podcast and will not be responsible for any claim attributable to errors, omissions, or other inaccuracies of any part of such material. Unless stated otherwise, reference to any specific product or entity does not constitute an endorsement or recommendation by Chainalysis. The views expressed by guests are their own and their appearance on the program does not imply an endorsement of them or any entity they represent. Views and opinions expressed by Chainalysis employees are those of the employees and do not necessarily reflect the views of the company.

When Tommy Nicholas (CEO of Alloy) wrote a blog titled, Your Fraud Model Is Broken, you had to know he and Ian Andrews (CMO, Chainalysis) were going to have a fun and insightful conversation. This episode was originally published on December 5, 2023, where Tommy discussed how early NFTs and Bitcoin transaction speeds got him interested in the space and years later his company Alloy is now servicing Fintechs, Crypto and TradFi companies managing their compliance, AML, credit, and fraud risk. He explains the broken fraud model and the need for a shift in approach to focus on the person rather than just the transaction. He emphasizes the importance of transparency and accountability by regulators in the industry and the burdensome requirements placed on the private sector. To share insights since the episode was published last year, we added fresh commentary from Rich Scioli, Alloy's General Manager of Global Fintech. Rich brings us up to speed on the latest in fraud prevention, crypto security, and gives us the real story behind the rise and fall of embedded finance. Minute-by-minute episode breakdown (2:10) - Alloy's role in managing wide variety of risks for companies dealing with money (5:08) - Alloy as an operating system for risk management instead of just another risk solution (7:23) - The frustration behind the blog "Your Fraud Model is Broken" (14:33) - The burden and costs of money laundering controls on the private sector (18:27) - The inefficiency of processing suspicious activity reports (19:50) - Updated: The State of Embedded Finance Report Key Takeaways (22:56) - Threat actors taking advantage of online onboarding (30:03) - How Alloy got into the crypto industry and fraudulent practices they have identified (32:15) - Updated: The evolution of fraud going into 2025 and beyond (33:13) - Involvement in the NFT community and the potential of digital collectibles (36:45) - Updated: Cross border payments, stablecoins and everything in between (42:00) - International look at fraud and compliance for the fintech / crypto industry (47:00) - Updated: What to look out for from Alloy and the crypto industry Related resources Check out more resources provided by Chainalysis that perfectly complement this episode of the Public Key. Website: Stop fraud, stay compliant, and solve your identity risk problem Report: Alloy's Annual State of Compliance Benchmark Report 2023 Article: Your fraud model is broken Blog: Banks have a friction challenge Report: 2024 State of Embedded Finance Report Report: The 2024 Crypto Maturity Journey: How Traditional Finance Can Adopt Cryptocurrency in Stages Blog: Growth Opportunities: Stablecoins, TradFi Engagement, and Tokenization Lead Web3’s Next Wave YouTube: Chainalysis YouTube page Twitter: Chainalysis Twitter: Building trust in blockchain Tik Tok: Building trust in #blockchains among people, businesses, and governments. Telegram: Chainalysis on Telegram Speakers on today’s episode Ian Andrews * Host * (Chief Marketing Officer, Chainalysis) Tommy Nicholas (CEO, Alloy) Rich Scioli (General Manager of Global Fintech, Alloy) This website may contain links to third-party sites that are not under the control of Chainalysis, Inc. or its affiliates (collectively “Chainalysis”). Access to such information does not imply association with, endorsement of, approval of, or recommendation by Chainalysis of the site or its operators, and Chainalysis is not responsible for the products, services, or other content hosted therein. Our podcasts are for informational purposes only, and are not intended to provide legal, tax, financial, or investment advice. Listeners should consult their own advisors before making these types of decisions. Chainalysis has no responsibility or liability for any decision made or any other acts or omissions in connection with your use of this material. Chainalysis does not guarantee or warrant the accuracy, completeness, timeliness, suitability or validity of the information in any particular podcast and will not be responsible for any claim attributable to errors, omissions, or other inaccuracies of any part of such material. Unless stated otherwise, reference to any specific product or entity does not constitute an endorsement or recommendation by Chainalysis. The views expressed by guests are their own and their appearance on the program does not imply an endorsement of them or any entity they represent. Views and opinions expressed by Chainalysis employees are those of the employees and do not necessarily reflect the views of the company.