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Annie Kelly
Sam, if you're hearing this, well done.
Julian
You've found a way to connect to the Internet. Welcome to the QAA podcast premium episode 330. Back to conspiracy school part one. As always, we are your hosts, Julian
Travis View
Field, Annie Kelly and Travis View.
Annie Kelly
Welcome, sweet and gentle listener. It's Annie Kelly, your UK correspondent and England's first and only national baby speaking.
Julian
National baby.
Annie Kelly
Thank you. I missed that jingle. And it's actually in of these professional capacities that I'm talking to you now because our episode today is going to be about the British education system, its effects on the malleable minds of British youth and the intriguing appearance of so called awakened home education centres on the scene.
Julian
I like this because it makes it sound like UK youth have a extra malleable mind. Like in other countries they're set, but in the UK they're soft brained.
Annie Kelly
Yeah, yeah, it is true. These centres first began appearing during the COVID lockdowns and largely marketed themselves to parents within the anti lockdown movement, which at that point was still pretty politically diverse. There were definitely loud conspiratorial elements who argued that Covid was a hoax or the vaccine was deliberately designed to be lethal. But there was also a pretty significant segment who didn't really think any of that, but just objected to the public closures and wanted a place for their children to learn. But just as the anti lockdown movement gradually radicalised and became the COVID sceptic movement before branching out to a more systematic conspiratorial worldview, these home education centres soon began to address other popular areas of discontent with the mainstream education system. Some of these honestly seem pretty reasonable to me, like overcrowded classrooms or the suppression of children's individual interests in favour of standardised testing. Others, such as the belief that state schools are grooming children into adopting deviant sexualities and gender identities for, feel a little more troubling to say the least. As an alternative, these centres claim that they offer lessons which honour a more free thinking form of learning, one that respects a child's need for play, adventure and the outdoors, with the added bonus of protecting the purity of their souls from satanic transgender Marxist indoctrination. And from what they post on social media, it seems like a significant part of the curriculum involves teaching their young charges survivalist skills and in particular how to use weapons like BB guns and recurve bows.
Travis View
Not enough pedagogy revolves around Mad Max.
Julian
Okay, this is how to finish a can of Stella you've found in a back alley. This is how to stab a rat with a government approved knife.
Annie Kelly
Oh, they're very angry about government approved knives. We'll get to that later. Now, I imagine if you're an American listening to this, you might be thinking that none of this is particularly new or even really worth commenting on. I remember even in 2004, American teen comedy classic Mean Girls, which is now over 20 years old, by the way, if you want to feel ancient.
Julian
Oh God.
Annie Kelly
There were jokes about kids being homeschooled so they could learn stuff like this. And on the third day, God created the Remington Bull action rifle so that
Hope Community Sussex Representative
man could fight the dinosaurs and the homosexuals.
Annie Kelly
Amen.
Julian
Ah, yes.
Annie Kelly
That gag relies on the long running and robust tradition of homeschooling on the US religious right. And the fact that for many Americans, the gun toting, survivalist homeschooler with regressive views on LGBT is hardly a new concept. But it's important to stress that the educational landscape over here has always been very different. Homeschooling, or as it's called here, elective home education, was largely the preserve of a tiny minority of families here until very recently. In 2015, for example, there were only 37,000 home educated children in England, basically less than a fraction of a percent. There's a few reasons for this historical difference between our two countries. Some are cultural, such as the religious right being much less of a demographic presence here compared to the U.S. some are geographical. We're a smaller country and our rural areas tend to be a lot less isolated. So a school is usually never very far away.
Julian
Yeah. Isn't the mayor of all small areas like that Andrew Tate?
Annie Kelly
Wait, what?
Julian
He teaches the kids there.
Annie Kelly
The homeschooling movement in the US only really kicked off among the religious right as a consequence of two Supreme Court decisions in 1962 and 63, which declared prayer and devotional reading in public schools unconstitutional. Yeah. Interestingly, I actually read that apparently before then the 60s, that homeschooling was considered to be a very like left wing kind of hippie liberal thing.
Julian
Yeah. Teach you the history of South America and coups. And then suddenly it was like, wait a second, we can't force the Jewish kid to do devotionals.
Annie Kelly
By contrast, in the uk, there is no constitutional requirement for the separation of church and state. And so it's perfectly possible here for a religious school to be run by the state and free to attend. And while there have been some rumblings and no doubt from godless liberals about how this essentially makes for a policy of state sponsored religious indoctrination the truth is that this policy does actually have some fairly good consequences from a secular pluralist standpoint, namely that parents who want a religious education for their child are much less likely to feel that their choices are limited to fee paying schools or just removing them from the system altogether. But with all that being said, it's clear that something is changing with the popularity of home education in this country. Remember that figure, about 37,000 children being home educated? 10 years ago in the school year that's just passed, that number had ballooned to 175,900.
Julian
Wow. That is pretty impressive. Massive. Especially since your population hasn't grown nearly that race.
Annie Kelly
Especially since no one's having kids in this country. Yeah. Now I want to be really clear that I'm not suggesting that every single one of these children has been removed from mainstream education because their parents are religious fundamentalists or have gotten red pilled. I don't even think a majority have. We'll get into it a little bit later, but part of the research I've done for this episode has taught me about the many complex, understandable and sometimes just quite heartbreaking reasons that parents choose home education over what's offered to them by the state. But there is at least one currently existing home education centre, officially established in 2022, which does very much cater to parents whose reasons for rejecting the education system can be chiefly summarised as irreconcilable ideological differences. That place is called Hope Community Sussex. The HOPE part is an acronym. It stands for Home of Positive Energy. Here's how HOPE advertises itself on their website.
Hope Community Sussex Representative
Hope Sussex Community has witnessed firsthand the positive effect home education can have on children and their families and it is wondrous. Our mission is to support, enhance and guide freedom loving families through the empowering and rewarding world of home education. Sessions with tutors start at the incredibly affordable price of just five pounds fifty pence an hour and run all day, Monday to Wednesday. The groups are small and as home educators, you can book directly with our independent tutors, attending as many sessions as you like out of the wide range of subjects on offering. As we now begin the fourth year of our journey, our legacy is already taking shape with children that have previously attended hope, now flourishing at college as critically thinking, compassionate, creative, confident and resilient young adults. At hope, we are incredibly proud of what we have achieved and extremely excited to be creating the reality. We want a life and world full of love, truth, integrity and freedom.
Julian
It's interesting because they're kind of taking the tie dye T shirt, an incredible symbol of, you know, kind of left wing homegrown clothing, and turning it into an anti vax symbol that really isn't quite like that. It's a bit like Chuck Norris constantly being like, yeah, I'm part Cherokee.
Jake
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Travis View
Well, Jake, you get hundreds of additional episodes of the QAA podcast for just $5 per month. For that very low price, you get access to over 200 premium episodes, plus all of our miniseries. That includes 10 episodes of Man Plan with Julian the Nanny, 10 episodes of Perverts with Julian and Liv, 10 episodes of the Spectral Voyager with Jake and Brad, plus 20 episodes of Trickle down with Me Travis View. It's a bounty of content and the best deal in podcasting.
Julian
Travis, for once I agree with you. And I also agree that people could subscribe by going to patreon.comqaa well, that's
Jake
not an opinion, it's a fact.
Julian
You're so right, Jake.
Jake
We love and appreciate all of our listeners.
Julian
Yes, we do. And Travis is actually crying right now, I think out of gratitude.
Travis View
Maybe that's not true. The part about me crying, not. Not me being grateful. I'm very grateful.
QAA Podcast — "Back to Conspiracy School Part 1" (Premium E330) Sample
Release Date: April 6, 2026
Hosts: Julian Feeld, Travis View, Annie Kelly, with guest appearance by Jake Rockatansky
Focus: British home education, conspiracy theories, the evolution of alternative schooling in the UK
In this episode, the hosts return to "Conspiracy School" by examining the rise of home education centers in the UK, particularly those founded or influenced by the post-COVID conspiracy and anti-lockdown movements. The discussion centers on what’s driving parents to opt out of state schooling, how these new education centers are positioning themselves ideologically, and how this trend compares to parallel movements in the United States.
"These centres first began appearing during the COVID lockdowns and largely marketed themselves to parents within the anti lockdown movement... But just as the anti lockdown movement gradually radicalised... these home education centres soon began to address other popular areas of discontent with the mainstream education system."
— Annie Kelly (01:29)
"Not enough pedagogy revolves around Mad Max."
— Travis View (03:00)
"This is how to finish a can of Stella you’ve found in a back alley. This is how to stab a rat with a government approved knife."
— Julian (03:04)
"The homeschooling movement in the US only really kicked off among the religious right as a consequence of two Supreme Court decisions in 1962 and 63, which declared prayer and devotional reading in public schools unconstitutional."
— Annie Kelly (04:55)
"In the UK... it's perfectly possible here for a religious school to be run by the state and free to attend."
— Annie Kelly (05:30)
"Remember that figure, about 37,000 children being home educated? 10 years ago... that number had ballooned to 175,900."
— Annie Kelly (06:13)
"...flourishing at college as critically thinking, compassionate, creative, confident and resilient young adults."
— Hope Community Sussex Representative (07:56)
"It’s a bit like Chuck Norris constantly being like, yeah, I’m part Cherokee."
— Julian (08:28)
The hosts maintain their signature blend of humor, skepticism, and critical analysis throughout—including running gags about British culture, school stereotypes, and a lighthearted approach to otherwise troubling topics.