Jake Rockatansky (2:21)

Yeah.

Julian Liv (2:21)

You know, because they don't really like. They don't have the chat room culture, you know, so most of the time.

Jake Rockatansky (2:26)

My parents really like the show more often than not. The feedback that I get is like really great. Episodes. Episode. You know, this was really interesting.

Julian Liv (2:33)

Absolutely.

Jake Rockatansky (2:34)

Maybe some follow up and, you know, maybe some follow up information, a link, you know, they'll send. They'll send Me, you know, additional. My mom, you know, ever. The teacher will send me additional materials, like a lecture that she attended online and which. Which, you know, it's amazing. I love it. Never, you know, n S t. Never stop teaching.

Julian Liv (2:52)

I think that my parents are, like, definitely not online poisoned. And they're definitely not even, like, North American in culture, so they. Most of the time, I think they're just kind of worried. They're like, are you okay, like, studying that stuff or being over there? You know what I mean? They're just like, why don't you come to a country that isn't that? You know? And honestly, I'm starting to see the wisdom. You know, there's only so much you can resist the pull of anywhere but the United States, you know, especially as it kind of collapses in on itself and, you know, like, the, you know, the head of, like, the DOD is just being like, kill them all. You know, it's like Judge Dredd. Like, it's a little too much like a b. A B movie at this point with just, like, all the things that they tell you about, like, you know, third world countries, like, you know, which I disagree with, by the way. Like, I don't. I don't think that those stereotypes are correct, but it's like, look in the mirror. Like, every downside that you are pointing at these countries and saying they have. Like, you have. You currently have. So. Yeah, I don't know, man. It's. It's just really, like, inspiring to have watched you guys podcast for the last month. I had lots of moments where I was like, you know, my girls, my boys, you know, they're doing their thing. I love it. And other moments where I wanted to yell at one of you guys for something, but I can't remember what it would have been. You know, just some. Some. Some petty disagreement.

Jake Rockatansky (4:04)

You've become. You've become like a parasocial listener to your own podcast.

Julian Liv (4:09)

Yes, exactly. I'm like, I could be friends with Jake. I think I could be friends with that guy Travis.

Jake Rockatansky (4:16)

That's the funniest outcome. That's the funniest thing that could have happened. Is that. Is that you've. Is that, like, ironically, you're like, fuck. You're like. You're like, I would have challenged. I would have challenged that this way. And. And you're the only person who listens to the show. I mean, I guess, besides, like, Annie, Brad, or Liv. But I. I have a feeling that neither the three of them has ever listened to the show and been like, that's something I'd push back on.

Julian Liv (4:37)

Yes, they fudgeing would. There's no way that that doesn't happen in their heads. They just. Because we have them under our thumb and. And we know how to discipline, you know, the people we work with. They would never.

Jake Rockatansky (4:49)

I experience the like, pinnacle of like, disconnect if we're on the spectrum of parents. I was with my in laws all week for Thanksgiving. We had a fan.

Julian Liv (4:56)

What do you mean, the spectrum of parents?

Jake Rockatansky (5:00)

We were talking about mine and now I'll talk about her.

Julian Liv (5:03)

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Jake Rockatansky (5:04)

Parent teacher conference.

Julian Liv (5:07)

Yeah.

Jake Rockatansky (5:07)

So, you know, my. My in laws are so unplugged. Like a couple years ago I had. I had gone. I mean, a while like six years ago, I went over there for like a sort of like a milestone birthday and I noticed that their TV was totally blue. And I was like, this is like. I think that the TV is like dying. And so I sent them a new tv. And this is like two years ago when I couldn't attend the Thanksgiving. But I came and I found. I was like, oh, how are you guys enjoying the tv? And they were like, it's great. And they had never like connected it to the Internet. Like, they basically had plugged it into the cable and it was like showing one channel. So I was like, oh, I'll connect it to like the Internet for you.

Julian Liv (5:45)

Oh, don't do that.

Jake Rockatansky (5:46)

You know, this is like an age old tradition. Well, to like. Because they had asked like about streaming.

Julian Liv (5:50)

Oh, yeah, yeah. They were like, what about this?

Jake Rockatansky (5:52)

Yeah, they were like, there's cable. There's cable, which is like news and. And like country music, but then there's also like streaming and like, you know, and so I was like, all right, you guys are like all set up to. I was like, you guys are all set to go. And they were like, we don't want this.

Julian Liv (6:07)

No, of.

Jake Rockatansky (6:08)

I guess what happened is, is when they first turned on the TV the next day, it had like a different sort of like menu screen. Like a different menu screen because now it's like logged into the sort of like the Vizio app or whatever. And it was like completely bewildering to that they were just like, you know, just make it the way it was.

Julian Liv (6:25)

You're not just sending them into tile country alone with no, like, you know, no weapons and you know, basically, you're basically doing like a reality TV show to them, sending them into tile country. And it's. We're not even talking about, you know, something classy like rok City. You sent them to like Vizio.

Jake Rockatansky (6:42)

I know, I know, I know. I realized as soon as I had done it, I was like, I was like, oh, I've made a horrible mistake.

Julian Liv (6:47)

You, you check them into like a motel that, that is only for sex workers. And, and you were like, have a great night. And the next day they're like, I think it's haunted, we need to leave.

Jake Rockatansky (6:58)

Well, I think what happened is they turned on the TV and there was like some sort of like holiday, like fireplace animation. And it was like very, you know, this is like nice, Very bewildering.

Julian Liv (7:07)

Well, yeah, of course. They're like, I think a portal to hell has opened my television. There's crackling fire and the voice of Santa is directing me to like kill everybody I love. Yeah, good, good. Get them off that MK Ultra shit.

Jake Rockatansky (7:20)

A good buddy of mine was at his in laws place and he was like trying to get them to turn off the, the motion smoothing.

Julian Liv (7:26)

Oh yeah.

Jake Rockatansky (7:27)

On the tv because all the parents have it. All the parents have the motion smoothing on.

Julian Liv (7:31)

They love to watch like the Hobbit at 60 frames per second and like, and like it looks like a fucking telenovela, but they don't even notice.

Jake Rockatansky (7:38)

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So, so. And apparently he was like, he was like, you know, and he works in entertainment and he's a cinematographer, so he was like, I'm telling you, like, he's like, this is my career. Like, I'm telling you, you don't want this. And apparently his, his like father in law looked him dead in the eye and went, my TV.

Julian Liv (7:54)

Yes, yes. Get your 30. Wait, you're 36 frames back, King. You know, fuck these 24 frames per second. Cinema oriented people.

Jake Rockatansky (8:05)

Well, you made a really good point, Julian. While we were, while we were. And I guess we might as well get into this. We were planning on arguing about this at the end of the episode, but I suppose we could.

Julian Liv (8:12)

Why not get into it up front?

Jake Rockatansky (8:14)

We might as well get to it up front. But like we haven't like seen Julian face to face since all of the like Epstein, you know, emails and stuff came out. And Julian made a really good point which is like that this is like the real Pizzagate. That like these are the Podesta. Like that like they are talking about the thing that they had to bake out of the, you know, Podesta emails.

Julian Liv (8:34)

Yeah, basically like those, those Clinton emails. I like, I think a way more interesting, like part of those emails is the way she talks about, you know, like Muammar Gaddafi and like, like, foreign policy. But of course, that's not what the. Our favorite people, the Qanonors and the pizza gators focused on. They were like, oh, here's a mention of walnut sauce, Here's a mention of a pizza, here's a mention of cheese, here's a mention of hot dogs. Like, this is what this all means. And then you get, like, way more emails released with way more implication. Like, the entire ruling class, like, being like, okay, so you got the child for the weekend. Okay, great. I will be at your residence to have sex with said child. Like, you know, this date.

Jake Rockatansky (9:10)

Be like. Be like, here is the signed rental agreement. You've opted for the $200 additional coverage.

Julian Liv (9:18)

Yeah, no, I mean, it's insane. It's like, yeah, he was running like, a fudgeing, like, sixth, like, car rental, but for, like, teenagers. And you have all these people, like, talking to him, like, hey, is Donald, you know, he's. Is he going to sing like a stool pigeon? And then it's like, nah, he. He hasn't sung yet, but he's dirty. You know, it's like all this stuff where you're like, okay, it's very clear what's happening here. And everybody in the ruling class, people at least, are in those emails directly. And there's nothing to bake. There's no game, there's no fun. There's not. There's the fact that this hasn't, like, yielded a new movement of truthers. The fact that Marjorie Taylor Greene is now quitting even though there was, like, essentially what you would call disclosure. But the problem is they baked Donald Trump in at the center. This man was their fucking giotis at the center of all this bullshit, the Pizzagate and then the subsequent QAnon. So they're like, oh, well, how are we. How can we reconfigure this with the knowledge that he was, like, in the pedophile court? Like, I wouldn't say he was the pedophile king. I think we know who that is. A certain financier and potentially the entire state of Israel. And. But. But I would say that he was in the court. He was in the court. He was. No one liked him. He was the smelly guy, like, who's the cousin of, like, the queen, and you can't get fucking rid of him. And everyone's like, God, we have to have Donald at the party. I mean, I guess he does run a decent stable of girls. Maybe we can use his mansion to. To, you know, recru. Underage girls. You know, and he sees that more as like a, hey, stick to your territory in the business, you know, type thing. I think, like, essentially, I think Donald Trump is a vicious pedophile and a horrible human being in every way. But I would also say, like, he might be a little too dumb to, like, be a logistics guy, which says a lot because if you've read the Epstein emails, the man is so stupid, he can barely write. It's insane. Like, the way he writes and spells is just like, I know that, like, rich people can just be like, whatever. I don't need to make the effort. You have to make the effort to, like, decode my nonsense. But, like, he is particular, particularly coming off as stupid. And Donald Trump is a sub level of that. He's like, even stupider and more undesirable. And I'm pretty sure, yeah, like, you know, he was just getting his stable picked because I don't think he has the logistics to be King Pedophile. I think he's more, yeah, like our somewhat touched cousin. He's like. He's Uncle Fester. He's Uncle Fester. He's never going to be Gomez. He ain't running the house. But, yeah, so that's my take and, you know, my judgment overall is that you've all been doing great. I mean, you know, let's talk for a second about Annie's miniseries, Insane. So good. Annie and Megan have been doing such a stellar job. I've been listening to every episode. I can't wait for the finale. And, you know, that is just. It's been just so, I don't know, heartening and beautiful to see that we. We were able to facilitate work like that with such, like, a couple of dang geniuses.

Agar Field (12:01)

I know. Yeah. I love when I finish the episode and I have this feeling of, like, that I'm so much smarter right now. I have a more attuned of the world at large that. Although that very satisfying feeling of just spending time with two very smart people, very well, getting complex topics, it's great.

Jake Rockatansky (12:19)

Stuff with no interruptions from us either. Which is even better.

Julian Liv (12:22)

Exactly. When we exile ourselves, like, the. The results are better. But, you know, I mean, it has to be said, like, if you have not subscribed to cursed media, you know, you should go to cursemedia.net and support these two miniseries. The one run by Liv with Spencer Barrows, and of course, the two Kelly's.

Julian Liv (12:42)

Our two favorite Kellys, Annie and Megyn Kelly. So the work is just insanely stellar from, you know, the kind of history of transgenderism in the medical environment and then in the political environment treated with such care and depth and then to have trad wives. The phenomenon of tradwives and I think like the modern anti feminist movement, just more broadly put under such scrutiny by such great minds like you. You have to go and listen to science in transition and you absolutely have to go listen to truly tradley. Deeply so y. Yeah, definitely. I'm going to plug us because having become like a one month parasocial relationship guy, I will say, like, I actually do have my own credit card signed up for cursedmedia.net, because we were doing the tests early and I am a satisfied customer of our own business.

Jake Rockatansky (13:27)

I am too.

Julian Liv (13:28)

So you go, you go, you go and do that. CurseMedia.net, throw us some bucks so we can keep doing good shit like this. Because I think that we've been killing it and it shows that I can step away and everyone else is a genius and my intelligence and my self regard is actually maybe slightly overinflated. So I'm going to deflate slightly. I'm actually a normal sized human now. I'm not 6:2 anymore. I'm actually 5:7 and we can continue. I'm. Yeah. And I'm balding.

Jake Rockatansky (13:51)

What's. What's wrong with being 57 and balding? Nothing.

Julian Liv (13:56)

Nothing.

Jake Rockatansky (13:57)

That's what I am, by the way. By the way, I am five seven and balding. I just have like the Air Jordans with the biggest air pocket in the bottom and I'm like on a, on a handful of medications like for the hair. So I'm working on the hair too.

Julian Liv (14:11)

Oh, I'm on a handful of medications for all kinds of other stuff. There's no, there's no shame in the game. I definitely did not mean to name your height exactly on purpose. That's, that's, that's. I apologize to you in about 38% of our audience.

Jake Rockatansky (14:27)

Funny that you use 38 because that's the size suit jacket. We wear a 38 short, baby.

Julian Liv (14:33)

Yeah, I was gonna say about the shoe, the shoe game. You've like, you've popped out like so many of those Reebok pumps by just pumping, pumping, pumping. And you're like, I'm not getting taller. And then they just blow out like poof.

Agar Field (14:45)

No.

Jake Rockatansky (14:45)

You know what I do? I did get a pair of Reebok. It was like one of the first things I got Once we started to make like a little bit of like fun money with the podcast. I was Like, I got some pumps and they fit horribly. They didn't. They weren't comfortable at all.

Julian Liv (14:58)

Yeah, small psa. We do not have any fun money. All our money is unfun. We're suffering.

Jake Rockatansky (15:04)

They know I got a little bit of fun money.

Julian Liv (15:06)

No, you don't. You're up on the cross and you're getting lashed. You're getting whipped every day and you're like. Like, you're like, I guess my bank account has some cash in it. That's. That's the only thing you tell yourself as, like, as you become. As you become like that guy in Game of Thrones that gets, like, tortured and his different, like, limbs cut off.

Jake Rockatansky (15:23)

You know, off topic, kind of. Or I guess bringing it back to the topic, it's like, I think Epstein is, like, boring to people. Like, because, like. Because he got got, you know, like Hillary Clinton. It would be shocking if Hillary Clinton was, like, in A jail cell 1 and then B k.

Jake Rockatansky (15:43)

The jail, you know, in the jail cell. Unalive, so we don't get shadow banned.

Julian Liv (15:47)

I'm sorry, I'm not. I'm not sure what either of those means.

Jake Rockatansky (15:49)

Could you go on TikTok?

Julian Liv (15:51)

Could you repeat the full sentence? Could you repeat the full sentence, but with the words Hillary Clinton?

Jake Rockatansky (15:55)

So I don't know. I think that, like, Epstein, people were like, oh, yep, of course. Yep, of course he knew too much. But, like, because of the fact that he was able to sort of escape, you know, any kind of consequences, like, his story isn't as interesting and sticky. Mainly just that it's, like, real and night and. And can't be speculated on as Entertainment Forever, you know, I mean, I'm pretty.

Julian Liv (16:20)

Sure what happened to break his hyoid B.O. was pretty painful. But you're right. I mean, he deserved a million years of torture and, like, to rot away in jail. Yeah, no, I mean, I guess there are no consequences like his. His soul has moved on to pedophile heaven. I'm assuming that that's a thing for Jewish people. That's your only heaven. You don't have heaven, but pedophile heaven.

Jake Rockatansky (16:39)

Can't say that I just did. No, we believe in neither heaven nor hell.

Julian Liv (16:44)

That's what I'm saying. But maybe for one exception, for one type of person. Okay, I don't mean that. Obviously, that was a joke. And Travis, you should probably, at this point, this is when you take away the controller.

Jake Rockatansky (16:53)

All right?

Julian Liv (16:54)

You have to take away the controller because I've been fucking up your stats and I've been Like, wasting all your extra lives.

Jake Rockatansky (17:00)

When I was in. When I was in high school, in the battle of bands, we played with this guy. There was a guy who had organized. He, like, had the rehearsal space and kind of organized the band. I hope he's not a fucking listener. Oh, man. But low odds. Low odds. But he was so bad at guitar, and he didn't quite understand how the instrument worked even. And so at all of our shows, we would just turn the volume on his amp down to, like, zero so that he would play through the entire show and, like, have a great time. And he had no idea that he wasn't outputting, like, any sound whatsoever, ever. It never came up.

Julian Liv (17:34)

We need to do that to so many politicians.

Jake Rockatansky (17:36)

I'm just saying that's what Travis is gonna do to you. Now, now.

Julian Liv (17:39)

No.

Jake Rockatansky (17:41)

All right, all right.

Julian Liv (17:42)

Disappointed, dad. All right.

Julian Liv (17:45)

All right.

Agar Field (17:45)

Let's talk about Marjorie Daley Greene leaving Congress.

Julian Liv (17:48)

She is the.

Agar Field (17:49)

The first QAnon member of Congress, and, you know, she didn't make it two full terms.

Julian Liv (17:54)

She's evolving so quick because she has actual principles. Queen, we stand.

Agar Field (18:00)

No, we do not stand.

Julian Liv (18:01)

We stand.

Jake Rockatansky (18:02)

We do not stand. He says no.

Agar Field (18:04)

So she's still.

Julian Liv (18:05)

Sorry, I couldn't hear up. I heard. I. Travis, view Stan. Marjorie.

Agar Field (18:10)

Oh, my God.

Julian Liv (18:11)

For her principled stance.

Agar Field (18:12)

Yeah. I'm gonna intersect you standing her with some of her comments about trans people.

Julian Liv (18:17)

Oh, okay. Nope, nope. Backing up, backing up. But, you know, that's. That's not fair to do to an irony, bro.

Jake Rockatansky (18:23)

Julian. Julian brought a knife and Travis pulled out a revolver.

Julian Liv (18:28)

He aimed it straight at my head. He's like, what did you just say? I'm like, nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing.

Jake Rockatansky (18:32)

Dude, he executed you like, fucking. Oh, wait, no, that's a spoiler. I don't want to give. I don't want to give a spoiler away.

Julian Liv (18:37)

Oh, you're going to. He's going to kill me. Is that spoiler that he's going to kill me later in the episode?

Julian Liv (18:43)

Sorry, Travis. Go ahead.

Agar Field (18:44)

So for years, Marjorie Taylor Greene was one of Trump's loudest MAGA allies in Congress, defending him on everything from election denial to the impeachment. But this last year, as we discussed earlier, she started breaking with him on several high profile issues. For example, Green criticized Trump's strong support for Israel, calling calling the war a genocide.

Julian Liv (19:06)

Oh, wow. Is there a big complaint? You're going to juxtapose me? How about you? I juxtapose you with her saying that and you saying that she's bad.

Jake Rockatansky (19:13)

Okay. Travis has like a legal history with this woman, you know.

Agar Field (19:18)

Yeah, it's true.

Julian Liv (19:19)

Yeah. I mean, he threatened to sue and then she, it was all about following and not following on Twitter. So I think, yeah, I know Travis. It's not like he was like, you know, but she relented.

Jake Rockatansky (19:29)

She relented.

Julian Liv (19:30)

She bent the knee.

Agar Field (19:31)

Yeah. She realized is like.

Julian Liv (19:32)

Yeah.

Agar Field (19:32)

Then she criticized, but so she also posts deeper US Involvement and strikes in Iran. And on health care, she also. People, this isn't reported so much. She also broke on health care. She complained that Republicans had no real health care plan and we're serving wealthy donors over the forgotten working class Americans. Very populist message.

Julian Liv (19:51)

Listen, if we just get her some trans friends and we, we just. She needs to, she needs to. First of all, she needs to wake up and become a proper fag hag. We need her to have more gay friends, then they can introduce her to some trans friends. And before you know it, she's going to be like Bernie Sanders on health. She's going to be anti Israel and she's going to be anti war and we won' be had. I don't think she's as crafty an operator as Tulsi Gabbard, for example. Like, I think that if we turned Marjorie Taylor Greene around and she was already, like, doing poly gym, like Zangief sex, so I'm almost certain we could get her on the right side of history on some of this other stuff we did to MK Ultra Marjorie Taylor Greene.

Agar Field (20:26)

You know, the funny thing is that, yeah, it's like Trump could tolerate, you know, breaking on Israel, he could tolerate breaking on health care. But the real flashpoint was the Epstein Files Transparency Act. Greene championed a bipartisan push to force the Justice Department to release all Jeffrey Epstein and related files, even citing a discharge position to force a House vote, something Trump and GOP leaders had tried to prevent. Now, here's the thing. I was like, think about Greene. It's like, I, it's like, I do think she's kind of nuts and conspiratorial and sometimes very vile and hateful, but I think she's sincere. She is a true believer in everything she does.

Julian Liv (20:59)

That's what I'm saying. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, she literally was like, okay, she's stupid, right? Like, she fudgeing, watched YouTube videos and was like, oh, Trump is fighting the pedophiles. But then as soon as, as soon as she found out, as soon as she found out, Trump was like, in the upper court of, like, the cab, like, she was like, fuck this, and started criticizing him openly. And also, I think she apparently, like, there was a frustrated bid for Senate, but I'm sure you'll get into that.

Jake Rockatansky (21:21)

Yeah.

Agar Field (21:22)

NBC News reported that this activity inspired Trump to call two senior Republicans to ask, what's going on with Marjorie?

Julian Liv (21:28)

Why isn't she not following the line of my big fat pedophilic, dumb government.

Julian Liv (21:35)

Damn. It's like she actually got pilled. And this is the problem. You fuckers. Yeah, flirt with Qanon, Donnie. You know, you're actually a pedophile. So it's like, it must fucking feel really weird to be like, well, you know, I guess they're right about. It's like, why did you even bring it up? Like, maybe stay away from the whole. The issue altogether. And now Marjorie Taylor Greene is like the, you know, she's like, sniffed you out. I mean, it took her a long time. She's not the smartest. But now she knows, like, I'm almost certain in private she's like, Donald Trump is like a pedophile as part of the cabal.

Agar Field (22:05)

But the funny thing is that she had to get elected to Congress and then be repeatedly attacked by Trump before. Maybe this Trump guy isn't saving the world. World. Like, that's what it has to take for someone like that.

Julian Liv (22:16)

But also like, the sell in wasn't there. Like, if Trump had been kind of being like, okay, Marjorie, listen, you're my queen. I can see you're very powerful. You're going to be, you know, you have like a guaranteed spot with me. All I have to say is that I was, you know, deep inside this Epstein stuff, but I was there to, like, observe and gather and plan for my future run. He could have totally kept her on his side, but he's so fucking lumbering and stupid too. And like, just doesn't care about anything and doesn't pay attention to anything that, you know, I think he allowed this friction to occur. I think if she had, if she had been propose some form of deal. But in this case, it was like him being like, don't run for Senate, you know, and also like, I, I'm not happy that you're criticizing me on Israel. And she was like, well, wait a second, like, what do I get out of not being like, not realizing you're the pedophile. Right?

Agar Field (22:59)

Yeah.

Julian Liv (22:59)

So her brain didn't even have a good sell in. So of course it's like, dude, she doesn't even. There's no. Why would she do it? She has no incentive and it sucks.

Jake Rockatansky (23:05)

Because now she's going to be the next president.

Julian Liv (23:08)

Yeah, well, I will have called it like five years. I don't know how many years ago during the run, I was like, this woman is going to be a problem. And I think that she will be running for, like, higher office at some point.

Jake Rockatansky (23:20)

She definitely, she definitely is not done. She's not stepping down to go back into private life, I don't think.

Julian Liv (23:25)

Yeah, well, we've seen how the American public reacts to a woman who fall, like, falls over on the way to the car and a woman who's on Xanax all day. So now we need to see what happens when the American public is presented by a woman who can bench press them.

Jake Rockatansky (23:40)

Yeah, yeah.

Julian Liv (23:41)

And maybe that was the. That maybe that was the secret sauce to get the first female president.

Jake Rockatansky (23:45)

Yeah. Is that she can fucking, like, she could replicate the shot from the library.

Julian Liv (23:51)

Yeah.

Jake Rockatansky (23:51)

You know, in Dallas, like, we need a president. We need a president who can make that shot.

Julian Liv (23:56)

I think we're either going to be like, in a Marjorie Taylor Greene future or we're going to be in, like, the Rock is the president, you know, or like, you know, Matthew McConaughey presidency. And I can see both, maybe even both coming true at once, like having a dueling kind of battle and forth. But the new back and forth is between, like, someone like Marjorie Taylor Greene and like a guy who's like, has attended too many, like, self help talks. You know what I mean? Like, I think it's like one is the dissociative answer and the other is fascism.

Agar Field (24:27)

So the feud between Trump and Greene came to a head on November 14th when Trump took to Truth Social to withdraw his endorsement of Greene. He called her a traitor and then went on to give this classic Trump rush rant.

Julian Liv (24:41)

Before we get into this, like, don't you think it's fucking embarrassing for him that, like, he's such a bad judge of character he has to constantly exile his, like, closest. Like, this is a woman who was literally in front of a room of, like, women for Trump, rubbing a crotch of his cardboard cutout and being like, yum yum. To, like, a clearly ugly and melting man. It's like, how did he fumble this so bad? He keeps fumbling and then you. He's supposed to be like, so smart, but it's like, well, why do you keep having, like, your, Too Brutus moment?

Jake Rockatansky (25:07)

I think this is amazing because this is a very rare sort of like, example of, of a major politician slash celebrity, like, publicly changing their mind. Super severely on something. Like, usually people are so ashamed to admit that they were wrong about something that, I don't know, people just. They end up reinforcing shit that's not true, because that's easier than admitting that they were wrong. And Marjorie Taylor Greene saying, hey, I actually don't support this guy. Like, you said, she was rubbing the crotch. I think that this is kind of significant.

Julian Liv (25:39)

I don't think she admitted she was wrong, though. And I think Travis made a great point in a previous episode, and I hate, obviously hate to say that, but he made a good point in a previous episode, is like, she never admits that she's wrong. Right? She just kind of goes, well, I came in promising this and this. Trump is breaking away from this and this. It's a bit like that Bill Maher line where he's like, I haven't changed. The Democratic Party has changed. Which is like a huge fucking cop out, because I think you're right, she is doing that. But she will never admit it. And it's not really like, her whole modus operandi. Right? Like, she's never going to be like, I was.

Jake Rockatansky (26:06)

Yeah, yeah. She's not changing her principles, per se. It's not like going further left to. To, you know, criticize Israel, you know.

Julian Liv (26:14)

Well, she's going, no. I mean, no, that's just, like, principles, which shows that, like, the majority of politicians in American politics have zero principles. I would say Israel is not. Shouldn't be. It should be a. It should be like, both parties and they should both agree, like, these people have way too many. Too much influence in our government. Like, the Israeli lobby is insane, and there's way too much money being thrown around. That should be both sides of the aisle. So I wouldn't say that that's a leftist stance, but the health care thing, I mean, the fact that she's even like, hey, we don't have a plan, and we're just stripping all these of their shit and just tossing them out. The fact that she cares at all about that shows me that she's got, like, that little ounce of humanity that, like, probably also bought her into QAnon where she was like, I don't want children to suffer. Like, you know, like, on some level, yes, she's stupid and what she believes is deluded, but it shows that she does kind of care. Like, in a weird way, I think you're right.

Jake Rockatansky (27:02)

I think, like, hit the gym with, like, a couple cool trans girls and, like, you know, well, first you have.

Julian Liv (27:07)

To know first you need some Gift friends. Like she needs to go out a lot with gay friends before you. You introduce her to some trans people. And also, I would never. Those trans people better be paid a lot of money to even hang out around her. They would be like social workers, like for the American stupids.

Agar Field (27:26)

So here's what Trump said about Greene.

Jake Rockatansky (27:28)

All I see wacky Marjorie do is complain, complain, complain. It seemed to all begin when I sent her a poll stating that she should not run for senator or governor. She was at 12% and didn't have a chance. Unless of course, she my endorsement, which she wasn't about to get. Exclamation point.

Julian Liv (27:44)

Why, why, why was she not about.

Jake Rockatansky (27:46)

She wasn't about to get it.

Julian Liv (27:48)

Fucking prick.

Jake Rockatansky (27:49)

I withhold love.

Julian Liv (27:50)

I really, I'm angry on her behalf. You know, like a girl boss like this, like being. Being talked to like this by another freaking toxic male.

Jake Rockatansky (27:58)

She's told so many people that she's upset that I didn't return her phone calls anymore. But with 219 congressmen, women, 53 US senators, 24 cabinet members, almost 200 countries, and an otherwise normal life, and an otherwise normal, normal life to live.

Julian Liv (28:14)

Otherwise. Shut the fuck up. He's never experienced a normal moment.

Jake Rockatansky (28:17)

Otherwise normal.

Julian Liv (28:18)

Yeah.

Jake Rockatansky (28:18)

I can't take a renting lunatic skill every day. I understand that wonderful conservative people are thinking about Primary Marjorie in her district of Georgia. That they too are fed up with her and her antics and the right person runs, they will have my complete and unyielding support. She's gone far left. Even doing the View with their low IQ Republican hating anchors.

Julian Liv (28:41)

Oh my God, that's so funny to bring up right at the end, even.

Jake Rockatansky (28:44)

Doing the View, he's like.

Julian Liv (28:45)

And he's like, listen, there's a lot of people, I got to talk to a lot of people every day. She cares about stuff. And instead of just calmly being a lizard like politician who just, you know, talks about quid pro quo with me, she's actually passionate about one or two issues. It's very exhausting listening to a female that has any kind of opinion about anything. Usually I can tell them, shut your your mouth. And they have to because they're underage and I've trafficked them. But in this case, I will make one exception to say that this bitch, we need to get her out. We need to get her out because she doesn't agree with everything. She's gone far left. She's Whoopi Goldberg. She's basically in Cisurga.

Jake Rockatansky (29:24)

She's Rosie o'. Donnell. She's Whoopi Goldberg. She's all four of them.

Julian Liv (29:28)

Marjorie Taylor Greene is going to be on Star Trek. She's going to be on Star Trek and she's not going to be a Klingon. She's going to be one of those non warring races. Races. She's going to be a pansy.

Jake Rockatansky (29:37)

She's back in the cube, microchips and phones glued to her face.

Julian Liv (29:42)

She might be able to do a pull up, but she's never going to pull up to mar a Lago ever again.

Jake Rockatansky (29:48)

She's going to do something though. She's either going to write a book or have a channel or something.

Julian Liv (29:54)

I'll tell you right now, she's not going to write it, but she might have someone listen to her and put words in order. It's going to be like the bizarro version of John Fetterman's insane autobiography.

Jake Rockatansky (30:05)

I think if I were her, what I do is I would go from politician to, I would do a reverse trump, like politician to reality TV star as opposed to the other way around. I think like following her antics. I think Americans would really, I think both political parties would tune in. I think that it could be a huge, you know, a huge success.

Julian Liv (30:29)

Yeah, Marjorie was always meant to be like one of those like boot camp reality TV hosts, you know, who's like, come on, you can do it. You slap.

Jake Rockatansky (30:37)

Yeah. Something fun. Something. Yes. Some kind of physical competition.

Julian Liv (30:41)

Yeah, it has to be physical. Maybe like a new version of American Ninja Warrior where they like take, they take out the Asian part.

Jake Rockatansky (30:47)

I think she should do like, the show could be called My Favorite Scene and what she would do.

Julian Liv (30:54)

Is this about you, your relationship to pornography? No, no, no, no.

Jake Rockatansky (30:57)

But that is a good name for a pornography website, though. That is pretty good. So if you were one of the, our fifth, you know, one of our 15 or 16 listeners who is trying to figure out what to name your pornography site, you can have that. You can have that for free. I've forgotten the bit that I was going to do because I, I sidetracked to do like, like a secondary bit that, that I was going to then bring it back.

Julian Liv (31:20)

Interrupt.

Jake Rockatansky (31:21)

No, no, no. It's gone now.

Julian Liv (31:23)

I feel bad now. What was it?

Jake Rockatansky (31:24)

What was I talking about?

Julian Liv (31:27)

My favorite scene. It's going to be a TV show with Marjorie Taylor Greene.

Jake Rockatansky (31:30)

Thank you. Thank you. Okay, so, so the show would be, is that she picks her like favorite scenes and stunts from like action movies and then regular people have to do it. Like, for example, you get like, you get like Tim from Orange county to like, has to like. He has to like do like, like the bus freeway jump from speed. You know, like big stunts from big movies.

Julian Liv (31:51)

He has to be chased down the LA river by the Terminator while he's.

Jake Rockatansky (31:54)

On a little, like the motorcycle. Yeah, he has to do like the motorcycle jump. Somebody has to do that. Basically. It could like just be scenes from James Cameron movies. Like, you have to do like, Aaron from Ventura county is gonna like fly this helicopter under the overpass. That would be so funny. And then she could become a podcaster. So then she could go, okay, here's how it's gonna go. It's like a weird reverse. So politician to reality star, then to podcaster, then back to politician. So looking at a presidential run maybe, I don't know, six or seven years.

Julian Liv (32:28)

Down, as much as I want people from Ventura and Orange county to get hurt very badly, I'm not sure that the James Cameron tie in, it seems a bit limiting. Like the show would have only a certain amount of scenes to work with, so I would go broader with that. But you know, I don't disagree on the, on the kind of like Path of Green. I just don't think she really has the chops to become a big podcaster. She's not that good at talking.

Jake Rockatansky (32:50)

It's true. And I think it would be too much work.

Julian Liv (32:52)

I think that she'll stop at reality tv and she probably won't. I bet she's, she's so hard headed. Like, I bet she's going to stay in politics. Politics, like in some measure. But I think, yeah, maybe like through the, the scope of media. And then like you said, you know, give it a couple years and fucking wait until the Republican bench looks really fucking pathetic that she could bench press all of them, like together, you know, that they all like are like Marco Rubio or George Santos or whatever. And then, yeah, time to run for president. In a country that's being pussified, you know, she can, she could, she could run on that. Like, we need to depus ify America.

Jake Rockatansky (33:23)

Would you watch her if she streamed like cod on Twitch?

Julian Liv (33:26)

I would prefer not to watch her at all.

Jake Rockatansky (33:28)

But like, if she was like playing like a first person shooter, like fast paced competitive, like, would you tune in?

Julian Liv (33:34)

No, because fast paced competitive shooters, like, they're not interesting for me to watch. If you played Escape from Tarkov, I would watch that.

Jake Rockatansky (33:40)

What if she played like Dayz? She would never. She doesn't have the patience. We're cutting all this anyways. It doesn't matter.

Julian Liv (33:46)

No, we're not cutting it out. I think you have a really good plan to disable Marjorie Taylor Greene's political power, which is trap her in like, a never ending cycle of like, unfair, unfinished games that are in early Access. And she, she'll get so confused, she probably won't bother us ever again. She'll just be talking about the next patch for a game that's like 19 years old.

Jake Rockatansky (34:04)

It's like the harmful bots that get, like, kind of like dumped into like one level of reality lower. That's like all AI. They still think that they're operating in the real world, but they're just like, trapped in another world with, like, you know, other fake, you know, other fake entities.

Julian Liv (34:18)

Oh, my God. Travis, get us back on track.

Agar Field (34:21)

So, one week after Trump makes this truth social post, on November 21, Greene announced that she'd be resigning from Congress effective January 5, 2026. So in Green's resignation announcement, she seems to reference the two issues that caused her, like, a lot of friction. Her unwillingness to be as supportive of Israel as other members of Congress and her calls to release the Epstein files.

Julian Liv (34:44)

All of which Travis opposes.

Agar Field (34:46)

Shut the fuck up.

Marjorie Taylor Greene (34:48)

Loyalty should be a two way street, and we should be able to vote our conscience and represent our district's interests because our job title is literally representative. America first should mean America first and only Americans first with no other foreign country ever being attached to America first in our halls of government. Standing, standing up for American women who were raped at 14 years old, trafficked and used by rich, powerful men should not result in me being called a traitor and threatened by the President of the United States, whom I fought for.

Julian Liv (35:27)

Is she getting more beautiful? What swagger.

Jake Rockatansky (35:31)

Wow, we've really come full circle.

Agar Field (35:33)

Like I said. Yeah, I think she's hateful and vile very frequently, but she has some principles.

Jake Rockatansky (35:38)

Principles.

Agar Field (35:39)

She also tied her resignation to Trump's attacks, saying that Trump's promise to support a primary challenger put her in an impossible position.

Marjorie Taylor Greene (35:47)

I have too much self respect and dignity. I love my family way too much, and I do not want my sweet district to have to endure a hurtful and hateful primary against me by the President that we all fought for, only to fight and win my election. While Republicans. Republicans will likely lose the midterms and in turn be expected to defend the President against impeachment after he hatefully dumped tens of millions of dollars against me and tried to destroy me. It's all so absurd and completely unserious.

Agar Field (36:21)

I mean, that's a good point. She saw the future. So like, okay, so like I'm going to have to fight a primary challenger financed by the president and then they're going to lose because Greene is too solid in that district. And then after this fight, she's going to be in the minority in House probably after, after Republicans lose Congress. So she's going to be in this position where she has to use whatever power she has that support a president who actively fought to get her out of Congress. So she's like, fuck that, I'm bouncing.

Julian Liv (36:49)

Yeah, no shit.

Jake Rockatansky (36:49)

I think it's a smart, I think it's a smart move.

Julian Liv (36:51)

Yeah, I think it's a smart move definitely for her. And also I just want to say congratulations on taking this long to realize that you were surrounded by the pedos. You're a real fucking Sherlock Holmes.

Agar Field (37:03)

She had to be in God Congress for five years before way she was.

Julian Liv (37:07)

Allied with Matt Gates who has like an actual, like, like just look, look at the, look at the fucking podesta emails of Matt Gaetz. Tell me you still want to ally with him. I think she is a little bit opportunistic and I'm not going to take that away and say, yeah, absolutely. Just like an innocent person with like, with like a dumb QAnon belief system and hateful beliefs due to where she was brought up or like stripping her of consequence or responsibility for that. I think there is a certain craftiness, but she just, she ain't crafty enough to do high level politics. Politics. And she ain't, and she ain't like unprincipled enough to just accept that she's going to work for like the actual demon. So.

Jake Rockatansky (37:41)

And he had already, he had already called her a trick. Like there was, there was like what she could do. Like going grovel. Like she's like perfect. Like I get an out, like I can pivot. She'll be able to make way more money. She get to work better hours. She won't be like restrained by, you know, the fucking, you know, the role of being in Congress. It's, it's all a plus for her.

Julian Liv (38:02)

Yeah, she's, she's, she's a free agent now. She's not restrained by the Republican Party. She's not restrained, strained by her husband. I would say if you work at a CrossFit gym in her, her vicinity, just be careful. You know, you might, you might have someone on the prowl. You might have someone looking for another street fighter character to fuck.

Jake Rockatansky (38:17)

Yeah. So guys, all guys who show up to the gym wearing their red karate geese just be beyond notice.

Julian Liv (38:26)

Nah, nah, nah. She'd fuck Ken first. Come on man. Ken is like the perfect Aryan boy. She wouldn't fuck Ryu.

Jake Rockatansky (38:31)

No, no, Ken is, Ken is in the red. Ken is in the red.

Julian Liv (38:34)

Oh, okay.

Jake Rockatansky (38:35)

Sorry that you're going to want a cut.

Julian Liv (38:37)

Why? Because people are going to yell at me for not knowing the Street Fighter characters properly.

Jake Rockatansky (38:40)

Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's what they yell.

Julian Liv (38:43)

Come at me. I'd rather that than them yelling at me by the other one.

Jake Rockatansky (38:45)

That's what they, that's what makes them upset. I know.

Julian Liv (38:47)

Well then they need to do some pull ups of the mind.

Jake Rockatansky (38:52)

Well maybe they should. Another challenger appears, you know.

Julian Liv (38:55)

Yeah. Another challenger appears and it's Travis. And I beat that. I beat the crap out of that Travis.

Jake Rockatansky (39:01)

It's Travis with his next segment.

Julian Liv (39:02)

There's actually zero shot at this point. Like I'm way too weakened and Travis is being buffing up. Would kick my ass.

Jake Rockatansky (39:07)

He's been punching cars.

Julian Liv (39:09)

I think there would be a fair, there's a fair fight between like, like three, three years ago there was probably a fair fight between me and Travis. Now he would, he would use his Viking strength on me and like subdue me and I would end up being like the, the human furniture that he calls the round table where he meets his other knights and they plot stuff.

Jake Rockatansky (39:24)

Like on my back and I've got too many gadgets.

Julian Liv (39:27)

Yeah, yeah, you would take him down but like you would do like a Home Alone takedown. Travis would like, would like step on Micro Machines and, and hit his head.

Jake Rockatansky (39:35)

Yeah, I've got a lot of tricks and traps. I've got like gun, I've got some melee weapons. Like I definitely. If you're coming for my PS5, it's going to be a Home Alone style takedown.

Julian Liv (39:45)

You're going to end up trapped in the little Ghostbusters box.

Jake Rockatansky (39:48)

What does that mean?

Julian Liv (39:49)

Well like you're going to like point your Ghostbuster gun and I'm forgetting all the stuff but all the terms, but yeah, then you pull them into the, you pull Travis into the box. You trap him in the little box. I don't know the name of it. Sorry man.

Jake Rockatansky (40:02)

I ghost trap little box.

Julian Liv (40:04)

I did rewatch the movie recently and I have to say Bill Murray is.

Jake Rockatansky (40:08)

A real fucking creep in the movie.

Julian Liv (40:10)

Oh yeah, he's horrible. Yeah, he's a horrible, horrible person.

Jake Rockatansky (40:15)

Yeah, they're like not good guy. They're like not. They're like kind of the bad guys.

Julian Liv (40:19)

Yeah. That's true. The poor ghosts just want to hang out, eat stuff. In Slimer's case.

Jake Rockatansky (40:23)

Yeah. Fifteen hot dogs at a time. All right, back to. Back to. Back to the show.

Julian Liv (40:27)

Yeah.

Agar Field (40:28)

In Green's video, she also made a reference that should be familiar to listeners of this podcast. She said that there's no plan to save the world.

Julian Liv (40:37)

Oh, man. Joe M Reference, man. Was it her all along?

Agar Field (40:40)

QAnon followers know this as a. The plan to save the world as a 2018 video by QAnon promoter Joe M, which many people cited as the reason they got the QAnon. They found this video so powerful.

Julian Liv (40:52)

Yeah, yeah. No, I mean, to this day, I stand by the statement that Joe M. Is the biggest mystery of the whole thing, including who is Q. I think at this point, the triangulation on that has gotten pretty tight. But, like, Joe M. Nobody has a fucking idea.

Agar Field (41:05)

Yeah, that's very strange.

Julian Liv (41:07)

The only lead is the idea that he was making some sort of reference to South Africa in his, like, in his, like, name or in his bio. But that was also a little bit.

Agar Field (41:13)

Tenuous, I was going to say.

Jake Rockatansky (41:15)

I can't believe that, like, some kind of QAnon hasn't come back, given all of the crazy things that have happened. You had, like, two assassination attempts. You've got, like, all of the stuff with, like, UFOs. You've got a Trump victory. Like, it. It just seems like the, like, it's so interesting. Like, you would think that this is prime. They're wasting prime Internet realism estate.

Julian Liv (41:37)

Yeah, but Jake, Q doesn't give you a fish. He teaches you how to fish. And now everyone's fishing.

Jake Rockatansky (41:43)

So what could he even offer? I guess nothing.

Julian Liv (41:47)

That's why he's not back. He doesn't offer anything. And the last time he came back, we very quickly triangulated it down to the Watkins, and it was very embarrassing. And so, yeah, of course, at this point, they probably also have their handlers being like, okay, pipe down. We got everything we wanted.

Jake Rockatansky (42:00)

I still think. I don't know. I still think maybe he'll come. Come back.

Julian Liv (42:04)

You can have a dream, you know, Jake, and no one's going to take that away from you.

Marjorie Taylor Greene (42:08)

There is no plan to save the world or a 4D chess game being played when common American people realize and understand that the political industrial complex of both parties is ripping this country apart. That not one elected leader like me is able to stop Washington's machine from gradually destroying our country. And instead the reality is that they common Americans, the people, possess the Real power over Washington. Then I'll be here by their side to rebuild it.

Julian Liv (42:39)

Bubble. Bubble based babe.

Jake Rockatansky (42:41)

Deep state. Too powerful.

Julian Liv (42:43)

She has logged on to my heart.

Agar Field (42:45)

So this is like too fucking perfect because it's like the way to make a QAnon follower, like get blackpilled on. The idea that like government is actually going to get rid of the pedophiles and solve all the problems is getting elected to Congress and actually personally working with President Trump. Once you're actually in there, once you actually see how it works, then it's like, oh, oh, then, then all of a sudden, then that's when the depression sets in. You realize that everything you came to believe by reading Q drops at your computer was a lie.

Julian Liv (43:16)

Maybe we could give like every MAGA person like a week in the government, you know, like they could, they could all go like on a, let's say like a work trip. It's like birthright, except it's to realize Donald Trump is the pedophile.

Jake Rockatansky (43:27)

That's what I think. I think it should be like jury duty. Is this somebody just, somebody just gets called up every now and again.

Julian Liv (43:33)

You gotta go serve under Trump. Oh, you like him? Great. Try bringing him his coffee every morning then.

Agar Field (43:38)

Yeah, like, it's like this guy is supposed to get rid of the pedophile. Something's not added up here.

Julian Liv (43:44)

Yeah, just be, just, let's just. We need to put him in some sort of like there should be like a glass exhibit where you get to go and like sit outside of his meetings, like in a two way glass, you know, and people can just take.

Jake Rockatansky (43:55)

A day trip not to like lib out too much. But like we also, you know, Marjorie Taylor Greene is somebody who has been in Donald Trump's like real orbit, like recently. Like, who knows, you see things behind the scenes. Like what if, you know, he fell asleep and let and like let out a real stinky toot or something, you know, like really embarrassed himself in like a meeting.

Julian Liv (44:13)

That's why. Yeah, you're like, there is no plan to save the world. This man just farted so nasty.

Jake Rockatansky (44:18)

Yeah, this man, this man farted so deeply into the couch cushion that I felt it vibrate on the other side. Like this guy was waiting in like the wrong meeting. Like he was waiting in the wrong room for like two and a half hours and like nobody found him because he like fell asleep and like he lost his phone. Just kind of like your most haphazard friend that's like always sort of like down on their luck, like getting crop.

Julian Liv (44:43)

Dusted by an ancient Richie Rich will now be called getting Q plus.

Jake Rockatansky (44:51)

But yeah, like, what's the reality of being with that guy? You know, Marjorie is like, young enough and I and I and I think savvy enough to be like, oh, man, this isn't gonna last. I gotta find that new wave and ride it or create it.

Julian Liv (45:05)

Yeah. I think she realizes, I think she has kind of seen in advance the dead end that is the possibility of having no schisms in maga. The MAGA schism is here. She has felt the first tremors of it. It's here, folks. I'm calling it now. She's a canary in the coal mine for it. And that's because she's so close that she's literally getting ground up by the gears.

Agar Field (45:28)

Trump, for his part, celebrated Greene's resignation as great news for the country, insisting she was resigning because of plummeting poll numbers and not wanting to face a Trump endorsed primary challenger. Trump also called Greene Marjorie Traitor Brown.

Julian Liv (45:42)

Yeah. Why brown?

Jake Rockatansky (45:44)

Why?

Agar Field (45:45)

Because green is good. Green is lush. Brown is an uglier color. This is the other thing.

Julian Liv (45:50)

Brown is poo poo.

Jake Rockatansky (45:50)

Marjorie Taylor Brown doo doo in her pants.

Agar Field (45:53)

Yeah.

Julian Liv (45:54)

Marjorie Trader Brown has skinned marks.

Jake Rockatansky (45:57)

Charlie Brown.

Julian Liv (45:58)

Like, I think, I love that he says, like, plummeting poll numbers because, you know that, like, they had to teach him to stop saying ratings. You know, they were like, no, sir. Poll numbers. That's what you're doing now.

Agar Field (46:10)

Yeah. Now here's the thing is that, like, I don't think she's, like, abandoned her conspiratorial worldview. I mean, she seemed to abandon just the prophetic component of QAnon, the hope for. The hope that there's going to be a great grand day of reckoning and all the evil will be washed away and then, like, you know, all that kind of stuff. But otherwise, I bet this experience has left her, like, just as pilled as she was as when she took office.

Jake Rockatansky (46:36)

Maybe more.

Julian Liv (46:37)

She just now knows, like, I think her statement is very obviously, like, very calculated. And she's reading it off a screen, which tells you that it's like, a lot more calculated, let's say, than her videos about QAnon and how awesome it is and how true it is. But then also, you know, she, I think in private sheets now, like, he's one of the pet of ores.

Jake Rockatansky (46:54)

Hmm.

Agar Field (46:54)

You know, I love. I saw a lot of people pointing out that Green is retiring after just over five years of service, which is the minimum threshold to receive an annuity. Payment through the Congressional Pension program.

Julian Liv (47:05)

Get that bag. Which is.

Agar Field (47:07)

Yeah.

Julian Liv (47:08)

Which is.

Agar Field (47:08)

This is for all federal employees. You need to work five years. But for five years of service, I look this up, she would be entitled to 5% of her congressional salary. That's $174,000 a year starting at 62. That means that she'd be eligible to receive $8,700 a year beginning in 20. 2036. Now, green.

Julian Liv (47:27)

I don't think that's the. Yeah. Then, then that's according.

Agar Field (47:30)

According to. They've sussed out from her disclosures that she's worth about $25 million. Yeah, she holds a bit of Nvidia. I don't think her congressional run is a part of a scheme to get like 725 bucks a month a decade from now.

Julian Liv (47:45)

Oh, get owned. Blue and on.

Jake Rockatansky (47:48)

Marjorie Taylor Greene had a 30 year plan to collect just under 10k for retirement.

Jake Rockatansky (47:58)

No, it's just like, she probably was like, this fucking sucks. And like, okay, well, if I wait till five years, then my, you know, my shit vest and at least whatever, it's some kind of. It's some kind of guaranteed pension even if I am rich already. Whatever, it'll be like ice cream money. And she's like, it's, you know, I'll just wait for an opportunity to get off the train. And the moment like, he was like, Epstein, she's like, okay, well, perfect opportunity.

Agar Field (48:22)

I'm done. Like, I'll just wait two years for like my. Yeah. For the stuff to vest and like, I'm going to. Yeah. Get a little bit extra again in like a decade plus.

Jake Rockatansky (48:31)

I would think that way. But she's also not Jewish.

Julian Liv (48:33)

Marjorie Taylor Greene, welfare queen. She's. She's pumping the government for all it's worth. But no, I mean, I think it's like, Marjorie Taylor Greene, welcome to the gig economy. Like, Marjorie Taylor Greene, welcome to like, what it means to be a Gen X or like what it means to not be part of the boomer class. You have 25 million, you still have to switch jobs.

Jake Rockatansky (48:51)

She'll have shit lined up. She'll have so many opportunities.

Julian Liv (48:56)

Yeah, I mean, I'm going to hire.

Jake Rockatansky (48:57)

Her services and she'll be like, she'll be like a correspondent on CNN within like six months.

Julian Liv (49:03)

What? You don't think we have a chance of getting her?

Jake Rockatansky (49:05)

I know. I don't think we can afford her.

Julian Liv (49:07)

That's true, actually. Fuck. See, we should have taken our opportunity when she was just a downtrodden real estate mogul like Due to her parents fortune.

Agar Field (49:16)

I also want to talk about how the fact that a lot of MAGA accounts on the social media website formerly known as Twitter have been revealed to be based in not American countries.

Jake Rockatansky (49:28)

This is hilarious.

Agar Field (49:29)

In late November, Twitter rolled out an about this account feature that lets users see the country or region where an account is based by tapping the sign up date on its profile. And this is obviously not perfect because you can technically use a VPN or whatever, but like people are sloppy, use VPNs a lot. And so, so pretty much instantly online sleuths and researchers noticed that a lot of very big, very like, you know, patriotic stars and stripes MAGA accounts with handles like Trump army or MAGA Nation X and they had all the flags and rallies and Trump avatars were actually based in like South Asia, Africa and Eastern Europe, not the United States.

Julian Liv (50:08)

Oh, so now it's illegal to be an entrepreneur from a foreign country that preys on Americans stupidity. It's illegal. It's illegal to see the opportunity there.

Agar Field (50:17)

I mean this is also kind of a funny saga because like Elon created this environment like by, by creating these incentives where it's like basically not enough money for like most Americans in order to grind out engagement in order to make a living. But, but some other places it might be worth it to ground out some engagement.

Julian Liv (50:36)

Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's like you know, getting a little bit of that money like if you're in a place where your dollar goes way further, as in like not at the, in the, at the imperial core obviously, you know, like everything is eating itself. So just treat these as, as like your friendly neighborhood necrophages. You know, they're just trying to clean up the dead flesh from our, our leprous body.

Jake Rockatansky (50:55)

I just think it's so funny that like that American politics is like people who don't live here's like favorite online MMO to sort of play. Yeah, because it's like, it's free. It's like free for the most part. I mean I guess you could pay eight bucks a month, month for, for X verification and get your, you know, and get like your post boosted.

Julian Liv (51:13)

Can you imagine like you, you were part of like your, both your parents were killed in like the anti communist purge, but now you know, computers enough to like run like a fake Ivanka Trump account. Like you're gonna do it, you're gonna do it. Like you know, it's like these people like what are you supposed to feel like affinity and like oh no, I'm degrading. The American dream. Like, you know, you never got it.

Agar Field (51:32)

Yeah, there. Yeah, there's this Ivanka Trump fan account. It was called Ivanka News and it posts things like a photo of President Trump with the caption describ than one word.

Julian Liv (51:41)

Fucking farmers. Absolute fishermen.

Agar Field (51:44)

Real gutter bullshit. Yeah, like really engagement bait. But through these techniques got over a million followers. And they also claim to be from Florida. One quote was, I live in Florida. This is what we voted for. And it was actually revealed to be based in Nigeria.

Jake Rockatansky (51:59)

What? Yeah.

Julian Liv (52:00)

Oh my God. I've never heard this country accused of such, you know, terrible catfishing and, and lies. Next you're going to tell me that like the Nigerian church minister, politician, er, worker that I've been supporting monthly like all this time are fake. And they were just like doing the equivalent of like running up a tiny pirate boat and like trying to get a little bit of the action.

Agar Field (52:22)

So it was actually, it was suspended shortly after the location feature went live. One of the funniest and kind of like on the nose reactions I thought came from an account called Trump army and it was a big pro. Trump account had had about 500 to 600k followers. It was revealed to be run from India by the new feature. And then they copped to it after this. They, the, they edited their bio. They said, an Indian who loves America, President Trump Musk. And they didn't disclose this previously. But you know what, if you, if you are just, just a man in India and you just really like Trump and you're just expressing that in Twitter, I think you're wrong. But, you know, at least you're not insincere.

Jake Rockatansky (53:01)

Yeah. At least you're not like kind of pretending to be, you know, like a lead, like Federal Invest Investigator, you know, and not really correcting people when, when they assume it and amass hundreds of thousands of followers and get retweeted by politicians, podcasters, you know, at least you're being honest online.

Julian Liv (53:20)

Yeah, I think a lot of the time, you know, if you're in a foreign country where it can get tricky to talk about your own government, I mean, there's like zero consequences for getting involved in like online discourse about the United States, I guess, unless you like threaten, direct like terrorism or something. So it makes sense. It's like, I mean, you know, I tweet about this instead of Modi any day. You know, it's just like, hey, I mean, what you're going to watch, it's like American tv, right? You're like, you're going to Everyone watches the big Hollywood movies. This is the same.

Jake Rockatansky (53:48)

So true. That's so true. And it's, like, fun to kind of, like, root for Jabba the Hutt, you know?

Julian Liv (53:53)

Yeah. Or, like, who. Yeah, whoever. I mean, who? To you, it's like a fucking video game. You've never been here.

Jake Rockatansky (53:57)

Yeah, it's just a big slot. It's just a big slot. Slobby big boy. And, like, you're defending him online, and people are like, honey, can you live with yourself? And you're, you know, having a blast. Like, yeah.

Julian Liv (54:07)

But people, like, sometimes will be like, oh, this is clearly, you know, like an Indian nationals or, like Chinese nationals are, you know, like, trying to affect American politics. I'm like, no, they're just, like, paying attention to the biggest show in town. It's like, blaming them for watching, like, you know, like, John Wick 6, you know, like, come on.

Jake Rockatansky (54:23)

They're like. They're like two types of people on Twitter that, like, talk about politics. And it's like the. It's like the people who are like, I have the answer. Like, I have the answer. This is what it is without any qualifications. And then, like, the grandmas who are. Who are like, oh, thank you so much. Like, I've been trying desperately to make sense of this hell world we live in, you know, thank you, you know, for providing you. Thank you for your hard work. And it's just like, everybody, like, wants to be. Like I said, like, everybody wants to be like, the guy in the van with the monitors being like, this is what's happening. Actually, this is what's happening. Let me break it down for you. Everybody just wants to be. They just want to tell you what's going on. And if you don't feel like making that up, then you're just a fan.

Julian Liv (55:02)

I support H1B. Like, a digital H1B and a digital naturalization for posters who, like, want to come to the United States only digitally and post online about how awesome Trump is. You know, like, I think I support those foreign workers. It's a bit like working from home. You get to be an American national, but only posting.

Agar Field (55:22)

My favorite, though, was that a lot of accounts, like, they just didn't react at all. There's one that was called America Underscore first zero. This is a MAGA account whose profile is White House press secretary Caroline Leavitt and whose bio is Just Make America Great Again. Now, the new feature says that the account is based in Bangladesh. And then it didn't acknowledge it. It just kept posting, like, right Wing polls. And even after the foreign origin was exposed. And you know what? That's also, I think, a valid reaction. Like, I don't give a shit. Fuck off. I'm like, I'm still. I'm still baiting these rubes over and over again. You can't stop me.

Julian Liv (55:58)

Yeah. Based in Bangladesh. That's like, all your clothes are made. That's where all your clothes are made by slaves. You don't think a Bangladesh is allowed to, like, catfish America? Like, no, I think they have the right. And this is perfectly fine. Okay. Yeah.

Agar Field (56:09)

So it's like we are. It's like, interesting new feature by Musk and Company. I guess this is like their happy medium. They want to straight up, like, start banning accounts, like mag accounts that they knew were just rage baiting and like, engagement baiting. So instead they said, like, we're just going to expose the fact that a lot of these accounts are foreign. Then, like, the Twitter base can do what they want. That information.

Julian Liv (56:33)

I think that they should enhance it even further. So, like, every time Elon Musk posts, it says, like, this is a South African pedophile.

Julian Liv (56:41)

Then we'll be talking technology helping us all. Ah, boys, it's really nice to be back. I'm really glad to be the of part podcasting again. I'm gonna try to not disappear anymore.

Jake Rockatansky (56:49)

It's all right. We got the holidays coming up, so we're gonna, you know, we're gonna get into some fun, you know, hopefully not super depressing content.

Julian Liv (56:56)

Yeah. And I'll be here for it. Thank you for listening to another episode of the QAA podcast. We've obviously got a Patreon. That's patreon.comqaa where you can subscribe for five bucks a month and get a whole second episode every week, plus access to our entire archive of premium episodes. I will say that I have recently had issues with the Patreon app, and I would support not using the Patreon app on. On any iPhones because they are taking a massive cut. Like Apple is now taking a massive cut of the subscriptions that go through there. So if you are subscribed through there, just, you know, I would never encourage people to unsubscribe permanently, but, like, maybe unsubscribe and go subscribe through the website just because that's easier. And also, I've found that, honestly, I've had frustrations with the Patreon app in general, but I would say that the best way to do it is through your browser on a computer, which is a little antiquated. Wish it wasn't so, but it's going to be the best way. And also, like, it'll stop Apple from fucking harvesting money that they don't deserve at all just because they invented the word podcast. So that's. That's an official statement. Go fuck yourself, Apple. Eat my shit.

Jake Rockatansky (57:58)

I try to. I try to use apps as little as possible.

Julian Liv (58:02)

Yeah, exactly. Yeah, Take. Take Jake's advice. Touch grass and sign up for annual with a credit card.

Julian Liv (58:10)

All right. Obviously. Also, one last plug for cursed media dot net. Go and check it out. It's our miniseries network. And, man, I'm so proud of the work that's being done over there by, you know, like, Liv and Annie and the whole team, so. And also, big thanks to Corey for editing everything and doing such a wonderful job. You are a beloved editor, sir. For everything else, we have a website QA podcast. And I suppose I will be the one to lead you out. And I promise to be here on the next episode Listener until next week. May the deep dish bless you and keep you.

Jake Rockatansky (58:49)

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Marjorie Taylor Greene (58:54)

I was called a traitor by a man that I fought for five. No, actually six years for. And I gave him my loyalty for free. I won my first election without his endorsement, beating eight men in a primary. And I've never owed him anything, but I fought for him, for the policies and for America first. And he called me a traitor for standing with these women and refusing to take my name off the discharge petition. Let me tell you what a traitor is. A traitor is a. Is an American that serves foreign countries and themselves. A patriot is an American that serves the United States of America and Americans like the women standing behind me. And I want to tell you that this only became possible today because the American people, whom we serve as representatives here in Congress, demanded that this vote happen. And they put more pressure on every single elected politician in this city than has ever been put on them. And today you are going to see probably a unanimous vote in the House to release the Epstein files. But the first fight, the real fight, will happen after that.