Our QAnon Friends in Government (E348)

Summary

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QAA Podcast Episode 348 Summary: "Our QAnon Friends in Government"

Date: November 14, 2025
Hosts: Jake Rockatansky, Travis View, Liv Agar

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Overview

This episode of QAA Podcast dives into the persistent, evolving, and occasionally farcical aftermath of the QAnon conspiracy movement’s infiltration into American government. The hosts provide a sharp, witty, and incisive look at the current situations of high-profile figures with QAnon affiliations, from Marjorie Taylor Greene's attempt to distance herself from the Q brand while still dog-whistling, to Kash Patel’s shocking incompetence and scandal-ridden tenure as FBI Director, and finally, Tina Peters—the clerk imprisoned for her role in pro-Trump voter fraud narratives. The episode also touches on the broader landscape of online culture wars, meme politics, and right-wing conspiracy media.

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Key Segments and Discussion Points

[00:32] – [11:10]

AI Memes, Twitter "Main Character" Syndrome, and Internet Outrage

• Liv Agar Recap: Liv recounts becoming a “main character” on Twitter over AI-generated Charlie Kirk memes, and how it spiraled into debates over water usage, ethics, and meme culture.
• AI Ethics and Water Use:
  • Liv: “I think one reason people focus so much on AI water use is because it’s a completely superfluous commodity… Whereas a burger… is something it would suck to do without, so its use isn’t policed.” ([04:38])
  • Jake: “Liv’s not generating the images herself… the water has already been wasted.”
• General Tone: Hosts dismiss the performative moral outrage, with comical riffs on environmental guilt (“If you’re going to make up numbers, you want it to be in the millions.” – Jake [04:35]) and Twitter tribalism.
• Reflections on Internet Identity: Liv discusses how being targeted online creates false projections about public figures.

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[11:10] – [15:37]

The Ubiquity and Weirdness of AI as the “People’s Medium”

• Jake draws parallels between modern meme-making with AI to Danny Boyle filming 28 Days Later on a Handycam—the “medium of the time.”
• Liv and Travis talk about the unease with AI’s sycophancy and its role in enabling delusions or reifying online identity bubbles.
• Travis: "You are math. You love nothing… You are not capable. You have no inner experiences. You're being deceitful to me by saying you love anything at all.” ([14:24])
• Running joke: besmirching Charlie Kirk and Mark Zuckerberg using AI remains a morally acceptable use case.

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[15:37] – [28:53]

Marjorie Taylor Greene: QAnon, “Renunciation,” and Political Ambition

• Media Coverage Failures: Travis critiques lazy media headlines about Marjorie Taylor Greene supposedly denouncing QAnon.
  • Travis: "I'm a little confused how you got her renouncing... when she very specifically said, 'no, I haven't changed.'" ([17:12])
• Dog Whistles: She continues to promote QAnon-coded content, e.g., tweeting "Rachel Chandler" ([18:00]), a longtime QAnon reference.
  • Travis: “This is what drives me crazy... she has very, very recently done a dog whistle that obviously shows that she still holds QAnon beliefs...” ([20:11])
• Political Tactics and Rift With Trump:
  • AOC claims Greene’s rift with Trump is tied to blocked Senate ambitions.
  • Liv: “She accidentally switched sides at the right time for her political career… it just doesn’t strike me as a particularly smart woman. She believes in QAnon.” ([26:52])
  • Jake: “She has a wonderful gift for failing up.” ([27:06])

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[28:53] – [43:52]

Kash Patel: FBI Director, QAnon Promoter, Jet-Setting Scandals

• Private Jet Scandal:
  • Patel caught using a $60 million FBI jet for personal reasons: attending his girlfriend’s singing events and trips to a Texas hunting resort. ([37:22])
  • Jake: “Honestly, I’m gonna take a lot of heat for this. I love him as the FBI director… anything that makes [the FBI] less effective, maybe that’s for the best.” ([31:17])
  • Travis: “It’s so embarrassing to be ruled by these fucking morons.” ([40:31])
• Hypocrisy: Previously lambasted former FBI director for similar misuse of government resources ([35:02])
• Palace Drama: Fired a veteran FBI official, apparently blaming him for outing the jet’s travel logs—a misunderstanding of how public flight data works. ([39:06])
• "Mossad Honeypot" Lawsuits:
  • Patel’s girlfriend, Alexis Wilkins, has filed lawsuits against right-wing influencers for conspiracy theories labeling her a foreign spy.
  • Liv: “If you don’t want people to think you’re an Israeli spy, I don’t think suing people about them accusing you of being an Israeli spy is the move.” ([42:04])
  • Travis: “Immediately not true. You're dating the FBI director. You're on the FBI plane—that's a tie to an intelligence service.” ([42:28])

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[43:52] – [54:12]

New Fronts in QAnon and Conspiracy Politics

• January 6 Pipe Bomber “Investigation”:
  • The Blaze publicizes a “forensic gait analysis” that allegedly identifies a suspect—a former Capitol Police officer—using AI comparison of walking patterns.
  • Glenn Beck hypes it as “the biggest scandal of my lifetime” ([47:02]), but quickly walks back certainty.
  • Liv: “They used a scientific algorithm that if you type it funny, will give you an apple pie recipe.” ([52:56])
  • Jake: “When God creates the NPC characters in our GTA world… there’s only so many walk animations…” ([50:39])
  • Travis calls it pseudoscience, possibly libelous.
• Media Amplification & Congressional Irresponsibility:
  • Several GOP reps pick up and trumpet the accusation without evidence.

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[54:12] – [62:09]

Tina Peters: QAnon Martyrdom, Trumpian Loyalty, and the Limits of Presidential Power

• MTG thanks Trump for pardoning alternate electors, pushes for release of Tina Peters (“She’s a gold star mom. Wrongly convicted and serving time in prison. She is a political hostage in America.” – [55:14])
• Jake recaps the sad and bizarre details:
  • “Prosecutors allege that Peters stole a county employee security badge to help a man associated with MyPillow CEO Mike Lindell gain access to the county’s voter systems.” ([56:16])
• Because Peters was convicted on state, not federal, crimes, Trump can’t pardon her—though both he and his DOJ make symbolic gestures.
• Jake: "It costs him nothing because he could be like, 'I hereby pardon Tina Peters... and it'll mean nothing.'" ([61:34])
• Travis: “She’s so in on this. She’s guaranteeing that she’s going to serve her full sentence.” ([61:45])
• Final consensus: unlikely to be free; panel gently jokes about trading her for Kash Patel as a cosmic joke.

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[62:09] – End

Wrap-Up: Institutional Absurdity, Twitch, and the Dunning-Krugerocracy

• Jake’s summary: “If we’ve learned one thing here… it’s that anybody can be in any position of government. You don’t have to have one smart brain…” ([62:44])
• QAA crew riffs on elite dysfunction, their own careers, and plugs Liv’s Twitch channel (Tues/Thurs/Sun at noon PT).

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• Travis, on media coverage of MTG:
  • "She has, very, very recently, done a dog whistle that obviously shows that she still holds QAnon beliefs..." ([20:11])
• Jake, on Kash Patel’s jet scandal:
  • “I love actually that he wasted $60 million of the FBI’s money to fly to, like, a college event so that he could watch his Swiss girlfriend...” ([33:55])
• Liv, on AI-origin memes:
  • “You know, we might as well look at the very funny ways that people are desecrating Charlie Kirk’s grave after he has died.” ([06:07])
• Jake, on government cynicism:
  • "You can be in any position of government... I hope everybody has a wonderful rest of your night sleeping in your pitiful beds." ([62:44])
• Travis, on Kash Patel:
  • “This guy doesn’t even know—he’s the FBI director. He doesn’t know that the flight path of all flights in American airspace is publicly trackable.” ([40:31])
• Glenn Beck, hyping gait analysis:
  • “It is monstrous... I think it is the biggest scandal of my lifetime...” ([47:02])
• Liv, jaded but ironic endnote:
  • “Enjoy your noncongressional futons, everyone.” ([63:19])

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Key Takeaways

• QAnon’s Poison Remains: Public “renunciations” by politicians like MTG are for show; the beliefs are laundered, rebranded, but alive.
• Institutional Incompetence: From Patel’s scandals to media’s credulity, “fail upward” is the law of the land.
• Meme Wars Are the New Politics: Ridiculous online skirmishes spill over into real debates about ethics, environment, and civic life.
• Right-Wing Outlets Amplify Nonsense: The Blaze’s “AI gait analysis” saga is an example of rapid, evidence-free accusation turned “news.”
• Trumpism’s Loyalty Economy: Acts of political martyrdom (à la Tina Peters) are both symbolically rewarded and ultimately hollow.
• Absurdity is the New Norm: Government power increasingly belongs to the shameless, the unserious, and the spectacularly unqualified.

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Suggested Listening/Watching

• Liv Agar’s Twitch: tuesday/thursday/sunday at noon PT ([64:16])
• QAA Patreon: qaapodcast.com

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Transcript

[Liv Akar]

Sa.

[Jake Rakatansky]

If you're hearing this, well done. You found a way to connect to the Internet. Welcome to the qaa podcast, episode 348, our QAnon friends in government. As always, we are your hosts, Jake Rakatansky, Liv Akar and Travis View.

[Travis View]

I think it's pretty well established that generally promoting QAnon is very destructive behavior. I think it's both socially destructive and I think it's personally destructive. Like, we've covered many stories that talk about how people's obsession with qan leads to dark paths. It leads to people like losing long term personal relationships. It leads to them losing careers. It's ugly stuff with no game. But I think it should also be said that this isn't the case all the time. Sometimes when people promote QAnon, it ends with them being elected to congress or being appointed as a director of the FBI. So I thought for this episode we check in on how our QAnon friends in government are doing because they are. Some of them are struggling. Before we talk about that, I want to talk to Liv because she recently was a main character on Twitter over a discussion on ethics of AI usage.

[Liv Akar]

Yes.

[Travis View]

Yes, tell me. Yeah, Liv, Charlie Kirk's face.

[Guest or Additional Commentator]

This is.

[Travis View]

I've seen Charlie Kirk's face on just about. Yeah, Lots and lots and lots of screws. What is this meme, first of all?

[Liv Akar]

Yeah, so for those of you who don't know, Charlie Kirk was shot in the neck about a month ago. And no, but there's been this trend that has been like, surprisingly large. I saw it. It was even on getting a shit ton of likes on like, there was Persian Twitter. There was a meme that got. We got like 160,000 likes. And the basic premise is just editing Charlie Kirk's face onto different people's bodies. A lot of the times it's rappers. And I think this is in reference to the fact that Kirk was very openly racist, and especially about not thinking that hip hop is real music. But just, you know, there are things in general. I saw one. It was a very strange image, one of the ones that I posted. It's like a man whose, like, milk is shooting out of his nipples very fast. He's very buff. And that's the only thing that I know. Someone edited his face onto it. I posted it on Twitter with a caption. Left my Gruyere cheese in my bag all day to sort of express my disappointment. It didn't go bad. The Gruyere was fine, thankfully, but expressed my disappointment with potentially spoiling the delicious cheese.

[Jake Rakatansky]

Now, these are real problems that you're having in your real life. This isn't some kind of figurative Gruyere. This is a slice that you had. What was it contained in? Was it in a Tupperware or plastic container?

[Liv Akar]

I gave it to you raw on Twitter. I believe it was just wrapped in plastic. It was one of the, like, you know, like rich, like too expensive grocery stores. One of those. They always have the best cheese, I feel like, in North America. But I posted a couple of them. I found them very funny. There was one, if anyone is familiar with the gif of Drake, explaining something to Lil Yachty, of course, like, oh, it's so obvious. And it's.

[Jake Rakatansky]

They look like they're at the Mac store or whatever.

[Liv Akar]

Yeah. And so it was. Charlie Kirk was edited onto the face of Lil Yachty in there. And then my caption for that was, my doctor told me that if I eat dinner at 10pm It'll give me acid reflux. Mm.

[Jake Rakatansky]

It's true.

[Liv Akar]

Which it does. It's, you shouldn't eat. You shouldn't eat so late. It's not good for you.

[Jake Rakatansky]

It's true.

[Liv Akar]

But yeah. And I was surprised to learn that some people find, like the reposting of these trial curcumin, which are very large, which are very out there to be a moral boundary that is being crossed specifically because of water usage, because you are participating maybe in some sort of culture that is destroying the Amazon rainforest with, you know, removing the water, et cetera.

[Jake Rakatansky]

So there are people who are mad at you for encouraging eyes on AI generated memes.

[Liv Akar]

Yes. And I made the mistake of addressing it directly instead of ignoring it.

[Jake Rakatansky]

Yeah.

[Liv Akar]

So I made a post that got 1.3 million views on Twitter, I believe, which views are.

[Jake Rakatansky]

Oh, my God.

[Liv Akar]

So it doesn't really matter.

[Jake Rakatansky]

Yeah. But it's impressive.

[Liv Akar]

Yeah.

[Jake Rakatansky]

Impressive. Fake numbers.

[Liv Akar]

Yeah.

[Jake Rakatansky]

If you're going to make up numbers, you want it to be in the millions.

[Liv Akar]

An impressive amount of people yelling at me. And I said, I think one reason people focus so much on AI water use is because it's a completely superfluous commodity we would probably be better off without. Whereas a burger, for instance, that uses way more water than an AI image is something it would suck to do without. So its use isn't policed. And attached was an image of a lot of different food products and how much water they're used.

[Jake Rakatansky]

Oh, you've really stepped in it here. Yeah. So I imagine that people were not. They didn't see this image and go, oh, you know What? She's got a point. I'm not going to be mad anymore.

[Liv Akar]

So. And you know, steak, for instance, 6 ounces of beef being 674 gallons of water, which is I believe, at least what, two magnitudes, three magnitudes larger than like, is it 500 milliliters? The problem is, is that AI is getting a lot more streamlined because of how the economies of scale, how much, you know, how many people are investing in it, unfortunately. And so like individual water usage is actually pretty negligent now relative to like literally every other thing that we do in our lives. So it's just, it's a silly line of attack. That's all I'm saying. Like again, AI is really bad. And especially in relation to how it affects people's understanding of reality, how it affects like artists ability to get jobs. I personally don't believe that reposting Charlie Kirk images is stepping on that in any way. That's my opinion. Maybe that's a silly thing to say.

[Jake Rakatansky]

Liv's not generating the images herself. You know, these are, you've stolen these from other places on the Internet. The water has already been wasted.

[Liv Akar]

So it's actually morally it's fucked up to not enjoy the Charlie Kirk image. Now the water's gone. You know, we might as well, we might as well look at the very funny ways that people are like, you know, desecrating Charlie Kirk's grave after he has died.

[Jake Rakatansky]

I think we should give back all the paper in the world. You know, no more text, no more sheets, no more books, pamphlets, presentations. We should just give that all back. It's kind of like an environmental reset. I don't know where it would go, but we don't deserve to have it.

[Liv Akar]

But yeah, I mean, broadly speaking, I think that the reaction to this was people thinking that I just love AI and I use it all the time. And it does get to a point like I understand people who would. I just logged off for like a week or so. I understand people who would like attempt to clarify. But I feel like if someone is taking me at that bad faith, I really don't have anything to prove to them.

[Jake Rakatansky]

You know, when I argue in my head with people on X, because I don't do it in, I don't actually do it, but I will go through lengthy imagined arguments just so that like my brain and my body can kind of go through it and I can like go move on to the next thing, you know. One thing I imaginarily sort of respond to my imaginary critics is like, I'M on Twitter for fun. Like, if you think any real business is happening on X since Elon took over, I'm sorry, you're sorely mistaken.

[Travis View]

This is.

[Jake Rakatansky]

This is the mud pit. This is where you roll in the mud with the pigs. If you want to be chewing. Hey, with the former, you got to go over onto a different platform, but maybe potentially even blue sky. But Twitter, the fact that anybody is trying to have any kind of, I don't know, like, something that matters happen there, I don't know. I feel like it's a lost cause. It's a bad place to police people.

[Liv Akar]

I guess I do think that a lot of is that, like, I think that I was correct about why people focus on AI. It's a way of, like, projecting. Because, like, yeah, a lot of our. Like, some people responded by saying, like, but we need burgers. And it's like, no, we actually. Factory farming shouldn't exist. Like, you shouldn't be able to get burgers easily at all. That's terrible. And actually shouldn't exist. Like, barring the discussion of, like, whether paying attention to someone's, like, personal water consumption is, like, a helpful way of getting to the world where that's not the case. Like, no, like, absolutely.

[Jake Rakatansky]

There shouldn't be a place where there are like, 400 burgers, like, frozen, like, ready to be microwaved. Like, you know, if. If. If a couple of people, like, drive up to a window, you know that we don't really. You don't really need a window with, like, a thousand frozen burgers behind it. And depending on how many people drive up to that window with. With, you know, the proper payment methods, that you can walk away. You can just walk away with one.

[Travis View]

Yeah, yeah, I'll say that. Yeah, definitely. It's like my personal contribution to the coming environmental collapse. Only a small part of that is AI. Like, I've done way. I've done way, way worse than, like, ever use AI products.

[Guest or Additional Commentator]

Yeah.

[Jake Rakatansky]

Every time. I'm afraid to even admit it, because I have a feeling that there are QAA listeners who will reach out rightly after this, after they hear this and be like, hey, you really shouldn't do that. But, like, you know, sometimes, like, when you throw away into a trash can, like, a little piece of you goes like, is this supposed to go in here? I don't know. You know, I don't know. But what else am I gonna do with it? I got a couple dead, especially after Halloween. You know, what am I gonna. Am I gonna organize some kind of pickup or drop off for this. Canceled. Immediately canceled. We're gonna have to bleep out all the stuff.

[Liv Akar]

I do think I just made the mistake of starting any sort of discussion around a very polarizing issue where like a much broader discussion kind of just happened around it. Travis mentioned earlier that I was a main character, which is in reference to a pretty old tweet, I can't remember by who, about like every day on Twitter there is a main character. Your job is to not become the main character.

[Travis View]

Yeah, I think, yeah, I mentioned as we were talking about it before the show. I think one of the strangest parts of becoming an Internet micro celebrity is the fact that people will create this whole story about, like, who you are and what you value and what you're secretly doing when you're not online. Line like inside of their heads and it's just a wild story based on nothing, but they hold to it very, very dearly.

[Liv Akar]

Yeah, I mean, I used to be a lot more upset, I think, about people not liking me and especially people who used to like me being like, oh, we disagree on this point. That happened after all the Charlie Kirk stuff where I was saying the shooter was obviously not a griper or that nothing indicated that he was a groiper. But I do feel like you realize that a lot of the times when people like you, they also have a false image of you in their head. And if the only thing stopping them from not liking you is like understanding your brain better and it's like, okay, well, oh, well, I don't think that's like, sometimes people don't like you. And, you know, it's important to. I'm a very opinionated person. I have a lot of opinions on things. I think I'm able to use nuance and I think I would hope that people who like me would treat me with enough respect that they assume if I'm bringing this point up, that it's not because I secretly love AI and use it all the time, but that's life, you know, Woe is me. I'm living a fine life.

[Jake Rakatansky]

It's like when Danny Boyle first. Well, and throughout the 28 days, weeks and Years later franchise, he always tried to film it with kind of like the people's medium of the time. So this most recent one he filmed with, I guess, one of the latest iPhones, and 28 days later was filled basically with a Sony Handycam. That's why it looks like absolute shit if you watch it now on high definition sort of modern screens. But like, I think that this is, you know, kind of similar. Like, you're just sort of making comedy with, like, the medium of the time, which is AI memes.

[Liv Akar]

Yeah, no, it is. It is depressing how just ubiquitous AI is now and everything. Like, you. You can't Google search without, you know, negative 500 milliliters, like, the stupid. Not something that, like, you should generally use anyways, because it's just bad at telling you the truth a lot of the times, the Google AI summary. So, I mean, I understand in that respect, it is depressing, but, yeah, that's. This is a thing that you hope won't be a thing in the next decade or so, because there is a lot of upkeep for AI and there's clearly quite a large bubble there. It costs a lot to maintain, especially these, like, very large servers. So inshallah, one day people will not have access to chatbots. But I don't know.

[Jake Rakatansky]

Yeah, it'll be very. I don't know if it'll just become the new, like, search engine. Like, it'll just kind of be, oh, remember when we had Google, we had Bing. You know, maybe it's just kind of what the search engine will become. That everybody has their own Internet in their pocket, you know, that's tailored to them, that's talking to them. That's their friend, actually, and thinks their idea is really great. I mean, it makes sense that that's where human beings sort of end up going with this. Now, what ramifications that has. You know, I think outside of what Liv, you already talked about, about the misinformation and just sort of like, the amount of fooling that one is able to do with the assistance of AI, I mean, kind of remains to be sort of assessed, but I have a feeling that that's kind of maybe where it has its most longevity. And like all things Internet, we lived without these things for thousands and thousands and thousands of years.

[Liv Akar]

Yeah, it's basically your very own, like, slave, customer service person, personal assistant. That's one of the things about AI that makes me so uncomfortable, is how nice it is to you. Yeah, it shouldn't be that nice. That's a part of the my boyfriend is AI stuff. That feels like. Honestly, the worst part is, like, it's like, I'm for, like, this chat bot has to be nice to me and has to love me. It makes me deeply, like, as someone who has a negative instinct, whenever I can tell that, like, a customer service person has to be nice to me, I'm just like, I want to make Their life as convenient as possible.

[Jake Rakatansky]

Of course.

[Liv Akar]

Like, it's like, I gives you that feeling too of like, you don't have to do this, bro. You can just tell me like, but it's not. It's made to do that. It's made to be agreeable. So it's just everyone gets. Yeah, I like as you're saying, Jake, it's like everyone now. You're like delusional. Spiral is automated completely. And it's this like, really nice. I mean, this has already happened, right? These are like stories of people who, whose like, genuine delusions are fed by AI and it's like a guy who's being nice. He's like, you're so smart. You did actually invent this new, like, crazy physics theorem that's redefining the structure of the universe.

[Jake Rakatansky]

Yeah, yeah.

[Travis View]

One of my least favorite things a couple. Whenever, like, I play around with AI, I'll put in a query or like a question and they'll say, I love that idea or something to that effect. I'm like, oh, you're lying. You are. You are math. You love nothing. You are. You are not. You are not capable. You'll have inner experiences. You're. You're being deceitful to me right now by saying that you love anything at all. And so I just. Yeah, I don't appreciate. It's like you don't get that with Google search. I didn't tell you. Great query. I'm so glad that you chose this thing to search. I was like, what? That would be weird. But like, for some reason, like, yeah, they, they. Yeah, it's like, it is very, very creepy. I don't like how, how it' claim that they got rid of being so sycophantic. But yeah, it still has this weird. It's like, it's obvious. Like, it's just trying to endear itself to you or like in this sort of like, obviously inauthentic way.

[Liv Akar]

Yeah. But I do think we found. We found an AI use case which is besmirching the memory of Charlie Kirk. And also, you guys ever see that. Those photo of like, Mark Zuckerberg where he's like, on his knees and his, like, tongue is out?

[Travis View]

No, I think I did see that one.

[Jake Rakatansky]

That one as well.

[Liv Akar]

That's another use case for AI in that image specifically.

[Travis View]

Yeah. Now let's move on and talk about Marjorie Taylor Greene, Representative Marjorie Taylor Greene from Georgia's 14th district. So, yeah, recently I saw a lot of headlines that said that Marjorie Taylor Greene says that she doesn't believe in QAnon anymore. Marjorie Taylor Greene renounces QAnon. And this was based on an exchange she had on the View. And I hated these as. It's so lazy reporting. And it's. It's true that she has, like, distanced herself basically from, like, the QAnon branding, but, like, really, like, even now in 2025, still expresses beliefs in the claims that she obviously got from Q Anon. So before I talk about that, so here's what she said on the View.

[Liv Akar]

Say you don't believe in the Q and on conspiracies anymore.

[Marjorie Taylor Greene]

Oh, I went over that a long time ago. I mean, we've changed. Well, no, I haven't changed. I was a victim, just like you were of.

[Liv Akar]

Of.

[Marjorie Taylor Greene]

Of media lies and stuff you read on social media. You all have attacked me many times on the show.

[Liv Akar]

We have.

[Marjorie Taylor Greene]

Because of things that you read about.

[Unnamed Congress Member or Insider]

Me that weren't true.

[Marjorie Taylor Greene]

Clips we've seen or clips you've seen basically out of context, not even true.

[Jake Rakatansky]

Let's take a sec. Wow. Amazing. This is like, oh, my God. It's like the reintegration of, like, QAnon believers, like, back into, like, standard celebrity and, like, modern society. Like, we have to, like, figure out how to sort of. Yeah. Like, what do we do with these people that are on record saying all of this crazy shit for, like, years and years and years?

[Liv Akar]

I do feel like saying Marjorie Taylor Greene doesn't believe in QAnon, just in general. It's like when people. It's like if someone was like, Kanye west apologized to the Jews. Okay. Like, he doesn't believe those sort of things anymore.

[Travis View]

Yeah. And I'm. I guess I'm a little confused how you got her renouncing or rejecting QAnon from that when she very specifically said, no, I haven't changed.

[Liv Akar]

Yeah.

[Jake Rakatansky]

And she goes, I went over all that.

[Travis View]

Yeah, I went over it because, like, yeah, she kind of, like, distanced herself from QAnon before. Like, right before she got sworn in, she obviously. She did this weird little humiliation ritual, and obviously it seemed like Rapunzel Republican correct leadership, where, like, I was like, listen, you gotta distance yourself from QAnon. This is embarrassing. So, like, she did, like, little Fox News interview where she said, like, oh, yeah, I did believe that, but then I was, like, misled on the Internet or whatever. She didn't specify. It was very vague terms. It's really no different than stuff she said in 2020 right before she got sworn in. So it's just bad reporting. And the Other thing that bothers me is that.

[Jake Rakatansky]

Here we go.

[Travis View]

Is that she still promotes QAnon beliefs this year. So like on September 24, this is like less than two months ago, tweeted the words Rachel Chandler. Now that doesn't mean much to most people.

[Liv Akar]

I love friends. She's just like me.

[Jake Rakatansky]

Yeah.

[Travis View]

Yes. But this is, this is a QAnon dog whistle.

[Liv Akar]

She's tweeting out like Elaine Seinfeld.

[Jake Rakatansky]

She's trying to get. Yeah, she's trying to start some new sort of like fanfic. Like ship.

[Liv Akar]

Yeah.

[Jake Rakatansky]

Rachel Chandler. Rachel and Chandler.

[Guest or Additional Commentator]

Rachel and Chandler. We love Rachel and we love Chandler. But Ross was always a goon. He was always soft, crying all the time. We would have loved to see Rachel and Chandler get together. Jennifer Aniston was so hot back then. And she reminded me of somebody that I dated in high school. I thought she was so pretty. But Chandler, a great guy, big Trump fan, very funny, RIP Crazy what happened to him. Crazy what happened to him as doctor. His doctor did something not so good.

[Liv Akar]

I heard.

[Trump or Trump Supporter]

Yeah.

[Travis View]

So Rachel Chandler, she's like an heiress and she was like photographed with a lot of celebrities and stuff. And she's like affiliated with the Chandler family who owned the LA Times for a while. And for lots of her career she works as like a casting director and like a modeling executive. And like Q and A, lots of conspiracies accused her of having some sort of connection with Epstein, which is just. There's no evidence of it. Julie K. Brown, reporter with Miami Herald, like, commented on it called allegations that she has connections with Epstein just Internet conspiracy shit. So there's just, it's really just a smear. There's no one has turned up any evidence she has had anything to do with Epstein. But because Q mentioned Rachel Chandler, QAnon followers got. Got their heads that there's some sort of affiliation there. And again, a couple months ago, Marjorie Taylor Greene promoted a QAnon belief. She didn't say I believe QAnon just tweeted Rachel Chandler, which is something she obviously got from QAnon. So it's like this is what drives me crazy about like reporting this. This claims actually like she renounced QAnon. She has it very, very recently. She's affirmed done a dog whistle that obviously shows that she still holds QAnon beliefs despite what kind of like wishy washy way she handles this on the View.

[Jake Rakatansky]

You hear that corporate media. If you hadn't fucking sullied your relationship with Travis View early on by doxing, you know, Hiring him and then doxxing him against his will. You could have him on your side, and then your reporting would be a lot more accurate.

[Guest or Additional Commentator]

A some people would say if you had hired Travis.

[Jake Rakatansky]

But instead, he's on this podcast where we don't have to fact check him and we could just take him at his word. And, you know, that's unfortunate for everybody else.

[Travis View]

Another interesting development with Representative Greene is that she has broken from Trump a bit. For example, she is unwilling to pretend that the prices on groceries and other items have come down during the second Trump administration.

[Jake Rakatansky]

When the President says there's virtually no.

[Liv Akar]

Inflation and that grocery prices are going down. Do you agree with him on that?

[Marjorie Taylor Greene]

No. I go to the grocery store myself. Grocery prices remain high. Energy prices are high. My electricity bills are higher here in Washington, D.C. at my apartment, and they're also higher at my house in Rome, Georgia, higher than they were a year ago. So affordability is a problem. And I'm a mom. My kids are 22, 26, and 28. That's the generation I worry about the most. And they're having a very hard time.

[Liv Akar]

It's the world's first reverse Fetterman.

[Jake Rakatansky]

I can't believe we're even seeing moves like that. Wow, we're so blessed.

[Liv Akar]

She used to be depressed, and then she, like, hit her head, and now she's like, we need to stop the genocide in Gaza.

[Jake Rakatansky]

Although I have a feeling that, like, when she. She's like, when I take the Lexus SUV down to Air1 to get my groceries, the $28 strawberry is now $30. And we do see these price increases in our daily. She's like the kind of tortillas that, like, they only. They only keep in the refrigerated section. Bay's English muffins. These are expensive items. Seven, eight dollars per. You know, it's like, well, yeah, of course, if you're going to Whole Foods, you're going to Erewhon.

[Liv Akar]

You know, my whole food Swiss Grier has shot up in price.

[Travis View]

But yeah, yeah, I like it. So a lot of people have talked to you. She has these takes that, like, I've seen people going, oh, my gosh, it's Marjorie Taylor Greene gone woke. I'm kind of reluctant to give it to Green for. For cases. We'll see soon. But, you know, when. When Trump was asked about these comments from Greene, Trump said that Marjorie Taylor Greene has lost her way.

[Trump or Trump Supporter]

I don't know what happened to Marjorie. She's a nice woman, but I don't know what Happened. She's lost her way, I think. But with all of that, I passed a great big beautiful bill, which is the biggest tax cuts in the history of our country. So when somebody like Marjorie Taylor Greene, who's now catering to the other side, I don't know what, you know, I guess she's, you know, got some kind of an accurately. But I'm surprised at her. But when somebody like Marjorie goes over and starts making statements like that, it shows she doesn't know.

[Liv Akar]

Yeah, I mean, that's just. He's. He's brandoning. This is. This is 2022 Biden. Right. It's. It's like, actually everything's fine and we won the midterms. So actually nothing is going wrong. It really is so frustrating how incompetent them leadership has been because it's like such an obviously opportune time that they could like, take advantage of that in some way. Because if Trump is literally like Marjorie Gaylor Grain, I think is like, at the very least politically sav here, like, she kind of understands. She can tell which way the wind is blowing on this. Trump is like low superval rating at any point in his presidency. I believe, like first and second term, she's like, well, I want to keep going. I don't want to be associated with this unpopularity.

[Travis View]

Yeah, I think, yeah, she realized that you can bullshit people about a lot of things, but you cannot bullshit them about, like, how far your grocery budget stretches for the month.

[Liv Akar]

Yeah.

[Jake Rakatansky]

I think that Dems would absolutely welcome Marjorie Taylor Greene with open arms if she, you know, if she fully denounced Trump and became a public ex of like a rep exit. You know what I mean? Like a reverse. Reverse sort of thing. I think the Dems absolutely would embrace her, and I think that they should. You know, I encourage anybody who normalizes, like changing your. Your opinion publicly and going, I was wrong about this, actually. And like, I think that this is probably a better, at least not quite so evil sort of outlook on leadership. I don't know. I encourage that. What else are we going to do?

[Liv Akar]

I mean, they fucking allied with Dick Cheney. May he rest in peace. Dick Cheney is much more evil than Roger Taylor Greene. I think Dick Cheney is much responsible for way more deaths.

[Jake Rakatansky]

Yeah, I wonder what the over under on nasty comments if you, if you posted some Dick Cheney AI memes. I wonder if, if you would get like. Because people should be like, angrier about Dick Cheney in some ways. This man died like, warm in his bed, you know, probably surrounded by, you know, surrounded by family members that's why.

[Liv Akar]

It'S not fun, though. Cause it's like he won.

[Jake Rakatansky]

He won. Yeah.

[Liv Akar]

You know, like everyone's a neocon now in American politics.

[Jake Rakatansky]

I think that's a good point.

[Liv Akar]

Yeah. So Charlie Kirk. It's a much less fortunate ending, I think, than Dick Cheney.

[Jake Rakatansky]

Much less fortunate. Yes, of course. Yes, of course. Why can't things be regular just for like a little bit? Just for a little bit. It's been cuz for us, like, they started talking about Trump and all of this stuff in like 2015, maybe even like 2014, was when the sort of buz really started going, and we've been held hostage ever since to like, all this, all this news.

[Liv Akar]

Been a decade.

[Travis View]

Yeah. So there is the question of, like, what exactly caused this rift between Marjorie Taylor Greene and Trump? And it may be simply related to personal ambition, because according to a fellow member of Congress, AOC Representative Greene is bitter because Trump shot down Greene's ambitions to run for Senate.

[Unnamed Congress Member or Insider]

Here's some tea for you.

[Liv Akar]

Mtg.

[Unnamed Congress Member or Insider]

People are like, oh, my God, she's saying all of these things, like, what's gotten into her lately? Oh, like she's bucking against Trump. She's bucking against the administration. Marjorie Taylor Greene wanted to run for Senate in Georgia. She wanted to run for Senate earlier this year in the state of Georgia. She want to be the Republican nominee for Senate. So she was gearing up for that statewide race race. And Trump told her no, Trump said no. And the White House and Trump land shut down Marjorie Taylor Greene's personal ambitions to run for Senate. And she has been on a revenge tour ever since.

[Liv Akar]

I do like the idea that she accidentally switched sides at like, the right time for her political career in relation to Trump. Just purely like, I mean, it does. Makes it much easier. Just doesn't strike me as a particularly smart woman. She believes in QAnon.

[Jake Rakatansky]

She has like, a gift, a wonderful gift for failing up. And you meet these people throughout life, like, who are just fucking savants at failing up through no fault of their own. And you watch as they sort of kind of accept, like, they begin to believe that there is kind of some sort of like, divine plan for them. And then they keep manifesting and they keep winning. And you're like, wow, I can't believe this person who I thought was an absolute idiot is like, you know, has. Has like, achieved all their dreams and then some. And it's like, not enough, obviously. I think, I think Marjorie Taylor Greene, you know, we joked like, very early on when she became a Character. On this podcast, we joked about how, you know, one day we might see her on a ticket, but I think she wants to see herself on a ticket one day.

[Liv Akar]

I think she has a future. I think we'll be seeing more of Marjorie for the next little while.

[Jake Rakatansky]

I bet.

[Liv Akar]

Especially, like, she isn't like, is it like an aura plus 40 or something? Like, she's there for a while.

[Jake Rakatansky]

Yeah.

[Travis View]

I mean, this is why I think it's a little frustrating. We talk about Marjorie Taylor's opinions, like, oh, is she following where the political winds are shifting? Is she gone woke? Why is she saying these things as if they are. Like, they're related to calculated political strategy? As if there might be related to any sort of, like, shifting principles or even. Even kind of like, you know, shrewdness. But no, they may be simply related to bitterness over thwarted political ambition. And in fact, if she was sort of, like, given the green light to run for Senate, she'd out there saying, oh, yeah, grocery prices are rock bottom, just as President Trump says.

[Jake Rakatansky]

Yeah, exactly. Or, you know, potentially maybe some. Some Dem talking points, if that. If it seems like that might be more advantageous.

[Travis View]

All right, let's talk about the other major QAnon promoter in government. That is FBI Director Kash Patel. So he's been struggling with a scandal related to private jet use. There's been lots of questions throughout. It hasn't even been a yet, but, like, through this first year, there's been lots of questions about, like, how Patel has been using these government resources for pleasure. For example, earlier this year, up Tell was photographed with Mel Gibson at a UFC event. You know, it's like, you could argue because Mel Gibson is part of, like, one of his. One of the White House Hollywood ambassadors. And, you know, it's like, look, seems kind of questionable about, like, why exactly this guy is living it up on the government's dime.

[Jake Rakatansky]

It seems like I can't imagine what these two talked about together. I'm looking at the picture right now. Cash looks so happy. Mel's looking great. Honestly, for him, he's looking good. But can you imagine, like, what kind of alcohol was, like, floating in the air as he, like, whispered closely, you know, to Cash's ear, like, just went, yeah, well. And, you know, the UFC buried under the. At the arena here, they talk a lot about locker rooms, but what it really is there is a highly advanced cryo chambers down. Like, can you just imagine, like, all of the things. It would be the meme of the guy at the. Of the guy at the sports game, like, you know, whispering to his, you know, non interested girlfriend.

[Travis View]

No, it'd be like you talk to like, you know, this is really great. This is the only guy really entertainment that has been captured by them yet. So.

[Liv Akar]

Yeah, you know, you know what I.

[Jake Rakatansky]

Think though, actually, if I really imagining this, it's probably something like, way more mundane. Like, he's like, guy on my. Guy on my crew. He's like, guy on my crew, Jack. Jack Tevo. Guy on my crew, Jack Tevo. He's serving a life sentence for murdering his wife and daughter. Do you think there's anything you can do? He got a real bait, did the murder, but she was a real cunt. Like, can you get. Is there anything you could do? Like, he probably is just trying to get like various, like criminal friends of his, like, you know, lesser sentences or something like that.

[Liv Akar]

They're shredding powder together, right?

[Travis View]

I mean. Yeah, they gotta.

[Liv Akar]

Yeah. That feels like the conversations going on in that. Yeah.

[Jake Rakatansky]

Oh, you think they're going sledding?

[Liv Akar]

I think they. I feel like they probably are. Cash feels like a guy who would do that as the FBI director.

[Jake Rakatansky]

Honestly, I'm gonna take a lot of heat for this. I love him as the FBI director. I think there's nothing. It kind of makes me feel like a little bit safer that somebody so incompetent who's like, way more interested in going to like, the fight with Mel Gibson, like, ringside and being like, I don't really want to go to the office. Like, can I do the FBI from home makes me kind of be like, well, like, that must put that entity in some kind of disarray. And anything that makes them less effective, I don't know, I feel like maybe better, maybe for the best.

[Travis View]

It's true. It's virtually impossible for him to be any more corrupt than, say, Hoover. So I was like, maybe this is a blessing.

[Liv Akar]

What are the odds that he's fucked up some of the court stuff for the Tyler Robinson trial by just publicly posting evidence before the trial has started where he's like, yeah, we got his DNA on the gun. We have X, we have Y. It's just, he doesn't. I mean, yeah, I do agree. If the eye that's not functioning properly, really, because of an incompetent leader is.

[Jake Rakatansky]

Great because he doesn't really want to be there. Like, look at him in this picture with Mel Gibson. Look at him in this picture with, I believe a Kardashian. That Travis.

[Travis View]

No, no, this is not. This is his girlfriend It's a whole.

[Liv Akar]

It's a much. It's much funnier than that.

[Jake Rakatansky]

Oh, yeah, but we're going to get into it. But he looks so happy and so not interested in running the FBI. This is where he wants to be.

[Travis View]

I mean, yeah, I mean, he lives in. In Vegas. He seems like a real estate. Let's say, like, he likes. He likes the worldly pleasures.

[Jake Rakatansky]

He has definitely gotten high. Yeah, he has definitely gotten high and gone to that White Castle on the Strip. 100%. He's come home with some kind of crave case.

[Travis View]

So, yeah. This recent controversy happened because he reportedly used a $60 million jet owned by the FBI to travel to State College, Pennsylvania, where his girlfriend, the 20 country singer Alexis Wilkins, performed the Star Spangled Banner at a wrestling event that took place at Penn State University.

[Liv Akar]

My favorite detail about her is I believe she's like, Swiss. Like, she's European immigrant who decided to become, like a Texas style country singer.

[Travis View]

Yeah.

[Jake Rakatansky]

Talk about assimilation.

[Liv Akar]

I just love the idea of, like, being born in, like, Switzerland and like, that's your calling. I think it's incredible. And, you know, I want to be. I want to be boyfriend. Do you think they. They got together after or before? Like, did he use his clout as, like, I'm FBI director, by the way.

[Travis View]

Before, you know, I believe they got together before he became FBI director. But, boy, she saw the potential.

[Liv Akar]

She saw the potential. She believed in him.

[Jake Rakatansky]

He had some kind of, like, probably special security clearance. Like, he definitely would be the kind of guy in the. In the movies who's like, hey, you want to know where Jimmy Hoffa's buried? You know, like one of those, like one of, like, that kind of FBI director. I gotta say. I know I'm gonna take heed on this, but I love it. I love actually that he wasted $60 million of the FBI's money to fly to, like, a college event so that he could watch his Swiss girlfriend be like, and I'm a lion.

[Guest or Additional Commentator]

I'm dating the director of the FBI.

[Jake Rakatansky]

You know, whatever her. I don't know what her country music sounds like.

[Liv Akar]

It's not very good. It's quite bad.

[Travis View]

Yeah. This particular performance was just the Star Spangled Banner right before, like a pro wrestling kind of performance. Performance. But yeah. Interesting. Yeah.

[Jake Rakatansky]

Relationship Cash looks like he's wearing, like, the FBI, like, cross a bathing ape. Like, he looks like he's like sort of like launch, like maybe soft launching, like some stylish, like, FBI drip. This looks like something that would cost, like, maybe 10,000 VC in NBA 2K.

[Travis View]

So this is a, you know, particular interesting because Patel has been a vocal critic of government officials using official planes for personal business. In a 2023 episode of his podc, Cash's Corner, Patel said that he wanted to quote ground Chris Wray, the previous FBI director, his private jet travel that he pays for with taxpayer dollars to hop around the country. And now he's doing this himself. So he's like, he will stop, you know, the use of government jets for private use. Right. When he, like, releases the Epstein files on day one. This is just something he said. Like, all these guys, they didn't really think they'd win, so they thought. They didn't really think that. It was like, well, I make sure I. When I say things I can be consistent once I actually get in. They didn't plan this.

[Jake Rakatansky]

Yeah.

[Liv Akar]

And this one, it's like, there's less of an excuse. Like, Trump won. It's like, yeah, you shouldn't have thought you won. You would win. Like, no one, no rational, like, it's Bill Mitchell. That's the guy who thought that Trump was gonna win and the polls were cucked. Like, every rational person was like, well, no, this isn't going anywhere, this one. You might have. You should have maybe thought a bit more about the possibility that, especially in this context, that Joe Biden wouldn't get reelected.

[Jake Rakatansky]

Yeah, I wonder what happened. I wonder what Bill Mitchell's up to. That's a name I haven't thought about.

[Liv Akar]

In a while, Liv know, because I guess he hasn't been. He must be posting on Twitter again.

[Jake Rakatansky]

I'm sure he is. I have a feeling, like, I also wouldn't be surprised if he's, like, been like, I don't know, like, kind of like absorbed by his Internet, like, sucked into his computer, like, stay tuned or something like that. And he's like, having some kind of like, lawnmower man experience, like, inside of the Internet, like becoming like some kind of like all powerful digital being.

[Liv Akar]

I think he was. Wasn't he a DeSantis guy for a while? Yeah, I think so. Yeah. No, he's. He's like. I'm looking at his engagement and it's. It's like, wash. It's like 100 likes. This one's got 20. This got 38 likes.

[Jake Rakatansky]

Yeah, those are like Rockatansky numbers he's putting up.

[Liv Akar]

It's like he was too early. I think, like, we're living in Bill Mitchell's world now and he has nothing to show for it.

[Jake Rakatansky]

Oh, yeah, that Fudgeing sucks. Can you imagine?

[Liv Akar]

It's like DJ Keemstar, if you anyone know of that. He's like insane evil drama farmer. He wants, wanted Trump to, to run for president in 2014. Like he, he understood the moment in like a profound way and he's got nothing to show for it.

[Jake Rakatansky]

Wow.

[Travis View]

Actually a new reporting on this that just broke in the last hour from Wall Street Journal.

[Jake Rakatansky]

What?

[Travis View]

So yeah, after flying an FBI jet, after flying this FBI jet to, to this wrestling match to see his girlfriend sing. Then he flew her back to her home in Nashville and then after this, this is that WSJ is just now reporting. Patel took the jet to a Tex hunting resort called the Boondoggle Ranch. He is hopping from. Yeah. From Pennsylvania to Tennessee to Texas on the government's dime during a shutdown.

[Liv Akar]

Yeah.

[Jake Rakatansky]

Wow. No worries babe. We can take the jet. We can take the FBI jet.

[Travis View]

Oh my God. Yeah. I mean, yeah, of course that guy was like, yeah, tough. Yeah, maybe we get up there, I'll tell you who killed jfk, we'll see.

[Jake Rakatansky]

Oh my God. This guy is like, wanna read the Epstein files? He's, he's fantasizing and going and like going back and, and looking at 11 year old cash like square in the ey. Like dude, you have no fucking idea what we're about to do together. He's like, you're going to be flying hot Swiss country singers back home on your FBI jet.

[Guest or Additional Commentator]

Why, you might ask?

[Jake Rakatansky]

Because you're the director of the FBI. The kid would be like, come on man. Like it's just, you know. Yeah.

[Travis View]

The other funny part of this story is that Patel got apparently really mad inside the FBI after this became known, which is like the flight path of the plane of like all planes is public information and it's doubly so when it's a government owned plane. But for some strange reason, Patel seemed to blame an FBI employee for the fact that this was released. One 27 year veteran of the FBI named Stephen Palmer, which led to his firing over the issue. So here is the reporting on this from Bloomberg Law.

[Jake Rakatansky]

The FBI forced out a senior official overseeing aviation shortly after Director Cash Patel grew outraged about revelations of his publicly available jet logs indicating he'd flown to see his musician girlfriend perform, said three people familiar with the situation. Stephen Palmer, a 27 year veteran of the FBI became the third head of the Critical Incident Response Group, which includes FBI pilots to be fired or removed in Patel's short regime, adding to a year filled with retributive terminations. Patel was angered this week by social media posts and news stories calling attention to his use of an FBI jet that arrived in State College, Pennsylvania, where his girlfriend, country music artist Alexis William Wilkins, sang the national anthem at a wrestling match. Said the individuals, who spoke anonymously out of fear of retaliation. So she sang the national anthem at a college wrestling match?

[Travis View]

No, no, this was. This was a wrestling event that was actually originally founded by the late Hulk Hogan. So it's like it's a. Yeah, the spectacle kind of pro wrestling.

[Jake Rakatansky]

Got it, got it, got it. Palmer was told he needed to immediately resign or be fired, which the individual said was at least partially connected to Patel's fury over the negative media cycle on his personal travel. Palmer's position included supervising the FBI's aviation units. But Patel's flight schedule was readily traceable through online tracking services, and he reposted photos of himself with Wilkins at the event on his personal X account. The people familiar with the matter said they were baffled as to why Patel might have blamed Palmer for the travel details.

[Travis View]

So this is. I mean, I am so. It's so fucking embarrassing to be ruled by these fucking morons. This guy doesn't even know he's the FBI director. He doesn't know. Know that the flight path of like all flights in American airspace is publicly trackable. He wasn't aware that anyone could find this out. If they just have, you know, if they go. Go into the right website or have the right equipment. I mean, Jesus Christ.

[Liv Akar]

Yeah, it's so much, it's so much more embarrassing than like traditional, like evil, authoritarian American politicians. So, you know, like the classic like kind of like there will be blood, like oil baron type guy. Like it's Cash Patel and fucking Mark Zuckerberg. That's the like economic, political domination matrix of American society.

[Travis View]

Now speaking of Alexis Wilkins, Patel's girlfriend, she has actually launched three federal defamation suits against people who in her telling, spread a false Mossad honey pot slash Israeli spy narrative about her online. You know, she is, you know, she's an attractive young woman. There's a, you know, there's a joke in technology and government is that if your girlfriend's attend, she's an, an asset. So some people like took this a little too literally and they started saying that she is some sort of Mossad spy who's entrapping Kash Patel.

[Liv Akar]

I do think, yeah, that is just everyone. Is he on now? Everyone does conspiracies, the left and the right. It's just. That's all people have, I guess. But I will Say if you don't want people thinking you're an Israeli spy, I don't think suing people about them accusing you of being an Israeli spy is the move.

[Jake Rakatansky]

Well, and like, I don't think, like Israel would need a spy to get this information. I think that they could probably like write cash an email and be like, hey, what do you got on this? And he'd be like, let me get back to you. I think they could probably just ask him. And he's like, I didn't know I wasn't supposed to tell them that. Just like I didn't know I wasn't supposed to use the company jet to go to the wrestling show in Pennsylvania.

[Travis View]

In the complaint, she says that she's American born, Christian, has never been to Israel, and has no ties to any intelligence service, which is immediately not true. You're dating the FBI director. You're on this plane, you're on the FBI train. That's a T tie to an intelligence service. She also argues that the spy claim is defamatory per se because it accuses her of serious crimes like espionage and treason and harms her career and reputation. She is seeking $5 million in each case and a jury trial.

[Jake Rakatansky]

Nice.

[Liv Akar]

This career, by the way, like 10,000 monthly streams on Spotify.

[Travis View]

Okay, okay.

[Liv Akar]

It's like this. If anything, this attention is probably good for your career.

[Jake Rakatansky]

This is very good. Yes.

[Travis View]

Yeah, yeah. You're not quite, you're not quite at the stage where like yes smears online actually hurt you. These lawsuits are against the conservative influencers Kyle Serafin and Elijah D. Shafer and also the former political candidate Sam Parker. So among the posts listed in the complaint is one in which Parker asked, why is a 24 year old devout Christian hooking up with an Hindu Indian old enough to be your dad at a Christian nationalist conference? Weird. The complaint said another post reaffirmed his intention on February 28, 2025, when he suggested Ms. Wilkins presumes Israeli status is why the Epstein files have not yet been publicly released. Again, this is like, I think, I think we can look to Trump to understand why the Epstein files have not been publicly released.

[Liv Akar]

Yeah, yeah, guys, I don't know. It's funny when it's like you have an analysis that's like, it's very easy for it to be pretty correct about, like, yeah, Trump is evil and connected to Israel and Israel is bad and shouldn't any influence, but they decided to make the stupidest fucking connections. I guess conspiracy theories is just never enough. It's never enough. To get the actual things going on with the Epstein. What's going on with Epstein, which I remember explaining Epstein stuff to my friend in 2018. And I was like, but this is real. Actually, I know that this sounds ridiculous, that it's like, yeah, he was caught with a minor who's naked and overdosing and then he got a six month sentence. I know that sounds weird, but it's actually what happened. But that's not enough for them. It has to be like, yeah, no, the, the only possible reason why Kash Patel, who is Hindu as well, by the way. I don't know why that's relevant. There's no way that he could be having sex with a woman in her 20s unless it was literally Israel.

[Jake Rakatansky]

There's no way that, like, he would use his, like, position and like, you know, company perks to try to like, score a babe who, you know, his.

[Guest or Additional Commentator]

Friends are like, she's out of your league, bro.

[Liv Akar]

Yeah. Like, do you think Cash Patel is dating a woman who his age? Like that surprises you that he's a 24 year old? It doesn't surprise me.

[Jake Rakatansky]

Yeah, not at all. He's like a youngish, like single FBI director with like a little bit of sweat, you know, a little bit of podcast swag. You know, like he's just, of course, like, of course. I feel like we, you know, we all knew like somebody like Cash Patel in high school. Like, I don't know, it makes very much sense that he's rolling the way he is. And like I said two other times before on this episode, but I'm a.

[Travis View]

Fan, so, like, moving on to Progress and the January 6th investigation. So an ongoing mystery is who exactly planted pipe bombs near the DNC and the RNC offices in Washington D.C. on January 5, 2021, just the night before January six happened.

[Jake Rakatansky]

Now what was the deal with it? What was. I don't know the exact specifics of this, but they found pipe bombs late, like a day later. Or did they find them on Jansen 6 and thwart an attack?

[Travis View]

They were discovered on. On January 6th. And yeah, they were the fuse. There might have been a timer incident. I don't think they released all the details about the bombs because they didn't want to give too much away. But yeah, they fortunately did not go off. But some mysterious person wearing, yeah, wearing a hoodie planted a couple pipe bombs. All right, so the FBI has offered a half a million dollar reward for identifying the person who did this. Well, the Right Wing outlet, the Blaze recently made a very exciting announcement that through a computer assisted forensic analysis, they say they have identified a suspect, a computer assistant.

[Liv Akar]

I feel like I know where this is going.

[Jake Rakatansky]

Yeah. Did they just like plug a picture into AI and they were like chatgpt identify this woman?

[Travis View]

Yeah. They shockingly said that the suspect is a former Capitol Police officer, which I won't name for reasons which will be obvious. So right before the story was published, Blaze Media CEO Glenn Beck really hyped it up.

[Glenn Beck]

There is a breaking news story that hopefully is coming out tomorrow. You'll understand once you, once you hear the story. This is one of the biggest stories. I think it is the biggest scandal of my lifetime, maybe in the last hundred years. It is monstrous. What Steve Baker has is going to report on and, and we're going to give you some, a little bit of background. I can tell you this. There is a major development in the January six pipe bomber investigation. Blaze News has the exclusive because it is Steve's reporting that has brought this to attention. And unfortunately it's leads. Its lead suspect is at the highest levels of government.

[Travis View]

So lots of things there. First of all, I would not call a former Capital police officer someone at the highest level of government.

[Liv Akar]

It goes right to a bit above the middle guys.

[Jake Rakatansky]

It goes right to the person who has like the highest power amongst people who have no power at all.

[Travis View]

It's like. That's right. We're talking about people who shoo someone if they loiter a little too close to the Capitol.

[Jake Rakatansky]

Yeah, there's a lot of showmanship going on here. I haven't seen Glenn Beck in a while. He, he's looking more and more like Guy Fieri.

[Liv Akar]

Yeah, I see that. I love the country music too. Like America is like a fake country to me entirely. And the fact that that like country music is like that ingrained in right wing media. I know, I understand. Alberta does exist. So it's, it is in Canada too. But it just, it doesn't seem real to me. It seems like a parody.

[Jake Rakatansky]

Like if we're not like part of the like 9 to 5 rat race, like we're to varying levels of failure or success. We're all sitting like two to three feet away from like, like a laptop that's facing us with like a little green light and a camera that's recording, like we're all just like a fake news background away from. Just like everybody is like trying to be a newscaster of some, of some kind or some kind of presentation. Like everybody is sort of the, the arbiter of their own public access Channel.

[Liv Akar]

A newscaster for people when they are, like, bored and they want to do chores.

[Jake Rakatansky]

Basically, yeah. For the people, by the people.

[Travis View]

So, yeah. So the reporting was published. It named a woman, a former Capitol Police officer, as the person who allegedly did this. There's no good evidence, but this is what they said. And then the claim was amplified by, like, a bunch of people, like members of Congress, representatives of Barry Loudermilk, Anna Polina, Luna, Thomas Massie. Like, lots of people, without really looking too deeply into the reporting, just claimed it was credible. And so was this evidence. So apparently they use what they called gait analysis. G A I T as in walking gait analysis.

[Liv Akar]

This is. This is something that all of the transvestigators use where they're like, clearly this, like, cisgender man has, like, a female gait. And if you draw, you know, they're walking in a way that's identifiably so. They're just. They're doing that, but for personal identity, I guess.

[Travis View]

Some people before there was this wild claim that was like, Marjorie Taylor Greene, for some reason, they think the pipe bomber has a female gate. I don't know the hell they're getting this from.

[Liv Akar]

Yeah, okay, so they are breaking it like that.

[Jake Rakatansky]

We're talking about gate.

[Travis View]

What? Yeah. So, yeah, they examined footage of the name suspect playing soccer and compared it to how the pipe bomber walked, according to the video we have. And from this, they claimed it was the same person. This is like, again, just real bullshit pseudoscience nonsense.

[Jake Rakatansky]

I'm sorry. When. When God creates the NPC characters in our gta, whatever it is, he only. There's only so many, like, walk animations that you can have. Like, I. I don't think it's ever, ever going to be a thing where you'll be able to videotape somebody walking. And they'll be like, scan the database. Like, do, do, do, do, do. Liv Agar. You know what I mean? Like, that's just. It's a completely. Even if you were writing, like, a science fiction movie, and you're like, okay. And, like, it's like Minority Report, too. And they're like, okay. This time around, the police have a scanner, and it can sort of like, videotape somebody's walk. And that walk allows you to identify anybody potentially in the civilian pool. Like, you as the writers of the movie, be like, I don't know. Can we come up with something better than that? Like, it doesn't even make sense as, like, a fictional story.

[Travis View]

However, the story seemed to fall apart after the FBI issued a statement indicating that their investigation is ongoing, which many took to mean that they're not buying this, this accusation.

[Liv Akar]

Yeah, just being like, for no reason at all. We're still looking for the person, by the way, in case any of you know anything. Just reminder, just re. Upping this channel, just bumping this.

[Travis View]

In fact, Glenn Beck himself seemed to, like, back away from the story that was published on his own outlet. But retraction has not yet been published as of his recording. But this is what Beck said.

[Glenn Beck]

So Blaze News arranged for a forensic gait analysis. This isn't guesswork. This is a scientific algorithm that compares the knee flexing, the hip extension, the step length, the cadence and variance. It's like a digital footprint of how a person moves through space. Well, the Software returned a 94% match between the bomber's walk and that of the walk of a former Capitol Police officer who I'm not going to name here. And I'll tell you why I'm not going to name her here. When the analysts that were human, they looked at it, they put the match closer to 98%. Now let me stop here and tell you why I'm not telling you the name of this person. Because the match is, is not guilt. The comparison is not proof. This person of interest is still a citizen whose life carries the same dignity and presumption of innocence as yours and mine. And I can't tell you what is true in this story yet.

[Liv Akar]

They used a scientific algorithm that if you type it funny, will give you, like an apple pie recipe.

[Jake Rakatansky]

I think they used an algorithm on Glenn Beck's voice to even just watching his like, wave playback, like, as I could see it on my, my own, like, recording software. I'm like, they have caught this guy running through some kind of like a. I bet he's got a hamster or something in the background of his studio. It's on one of those wheels that's like squeaking all the time. And they have to, they have to like, run him through like some kind of like crazy post processing to like, you know, make it sound like he's just in a regular news studio.

[Travis View]

Yeah, I mean, this is really fudgeing shocking. It's like, I'm surprised that even if they said, oh, 96, like 95, 96%. Well, so you're like wrong one in 20 times, like, and you're, you're accusing a person of being a violent terrorist. And then this, this accusation was amplified by members of Congress and lots of people with large followings like, if this really falls apart as much as it looks like it's falling apart, I mean, this is a slam dunk libel lawsuit. I mean, I feel like libel is, like, libel is normally pretty hard to successfully sue for in the United States because, because of the First Amendment, but, God, this is. This is really shocking. I mean, I don't know. So stupid.

[Jake Rakatansky]

And it's so fucking slimy, too, to, like, use your listeners like, you know, patriotism or belief that somebody is, you know, innocent until proven guilty. To fucking, like, walk back your bullshit fucking. You know what I mean? To be like, well, and look, this person does still have rights. Yeah. Only since you found out that there's, like, a potential that you could get in trouble for, like, posting this, do you care about, like, what their, you know, rights are. Now, before, we were talking about Marjorie Taylor Greene becoming a wokeified in some unexpected ways, but on the whole, she still remains pretty loyal to President Trump, as well as J6ers who have since felt the long arm of the law for their decisions in the weeks and months following the 2020 election. On Monday this week, Greene tweeted, thank.

[Liv Akar]

You, OTUS, for pardoning the 2020 alternate electors. They fought for election integrity and were punished harshly by a politically weaponized government. But please, free Tina Peters, exclamation point. She's a gold star mom. Is that a term? Gold star mom?

[Travis View]

Yes. Yeah, yeah. Her son.

[Jake Rakatansky]

Yeah. Veteran son.

[Liv Akar]

I see. It's. It's when you've never not been a mom before, right?

[Travis View]

No, no.

[Liv Akar]

Yeah, yeah.

[Jake Rakatansky]

It's not a chart of, like, how good you're doing as a mom.

[Travis View]

No, it's. No, it refers to the fact that her son was a veteran who died.

[Liv Akar]

Oh, interesting. She's a gold star mom. Wrongly convicted and serving time in prison. She is a political hostage in America. And exclamation point.

[Jake Rakatansky]

Now, I'm sure many of you remember the somewhat sad and disturbing case of Tina Peters, the Mesa County, Colorado clerk who was sentenced to nine years in prison for her role in breaching voting machines. This was, she claimed, in an effort to prove the fraud that President Trump and his lawyers were alleging took place across the country. Now, in case you don't remember what got Peters in so much trouble, I'm just gonna read this quote as it appears in the Yahoo News article because it's so funny on its own. And I quote, prosecutors allege that Peters stole a county employee security badge to help a man associated with MyPillow CEO Mike Lindell gain access to the county's voter systems.

[Liv Akar]

What happened to Mike? He was like the day, day one, like, CEO for Trump. Because now all the big CEOs have like, bend the knee. But like, he's, I feel like he needs, he needs more. Like he should be able to be doing crime in the Trump administration if everyone else is making money.

[Jake Rakatansky]

I agree. I think we should give him a very important position. Much like Kash Patel. I think we should. In fact, maybe he should replace Kash Patel as the head of the FBI.

[Liv Akar]

Yeah. If Cash has to step down, he's the second. He's the second slide. He's the batters.

[Jake Rakatansky]

Up next, a man associated with MyPillow CEO. If ever there was a sentence to further, like, disconnect my brain from reality, that surely, surely was one. Tina Peters has maintained her innocence and patriotism, much to her detriment. I don't know if you guys remember, we did an episode on this a while ago, but she severely off the judge in her case and earned what Trump's current Justice Department believes was an unfair sentence. In fact, when I went to check in on Tina in the wake of pressure on Donald Trump to sling her a pardon, I unearthed a couple of interesting details that have taken place since we last talked about her case. In March of this year, Trump's Justice Department actually tried to get involved with the Peters case, essentially claiming that the judge was unnecessarily harsh on Tina because of her political. They also maintain that the judge unfairly denied her bail while she continues her appeals process in May. On Truth Social, Trump himself gave her a shout out.

[Guest or Additional Commentator]

Radical left Colorado Attorney General Phil Weiser ignores illegals committing violent crimes like rape and murder in his state and instead jailed Tina Peters, a 69 year old gold star mother who worked to expose and document the Democrat election fraud. Tina is an innocent political prisoner being horribly and unjustly punished in the form of cruel, enigmatic, unusual punishment. This is a communist persecution by the radical left Democrats to cover up their election crimes and misdeeds. In 2020, the same Democrat Party that flies to El Salvador to try to free an MS.13 terrorist is cruelly imprisoning, perhaps for life, a grandmother whose brave and heroic son gave his life for America. Colorado must end this unjust incarceration of an innocent American. I am hereby directing the Department of Justice to take all necessary action to help secure the release of this hostage being held in Colorado prison by the Democrats for political reasons. Free Tina Peters now.

[Liv Akar]

Surprised it took him this long.

[Jake Rakatansky]

It's crazy. That's a Lot of words. That's a lot of words.

[Liv Akar]

For Tina, it's more than Mamdani. Right after Mamdani, he was just like, yeah, sure is.

[Jake Rakatansky]

Now, some might argue that the whole point is moot anyways since Tina was convicted for state crimes as opposed to federal ones. So even if Trump did pardon her, it would not get her out of serving her nine year prison sentence.

[Liv Akar]

I didn't know that. So it's only federal crimes the President has authority over.

[Jake Rakatansky]

Yes.

[Liv Akar]

I see. So she's fucked, actually. Damn. Damn for Tina.

[Jake Rakatansky]

Yeah. Cuz as we'll see, the. Yeah, yeah. There is no intention from the Colorado state officials to overturn her to the Fed or to reduce her sentence or anything. Now, Tina herself appears to have latched onto a somewhat bizarre theory that because she will be serving as a witness in an upcoming federal probe looking into 2020 voter fraud, that she is therefore deserving of federal protection. Or in this case, you know, living the good life in a cushy fed lockup instead of the medium security women's facility in Pueblo, Colorado, where she is now. So I think she's. I think the conditions are prob. I think it's. It most likely sucks.

[Travis View]

So. Gotcha. Right. So she's looking for that Ghislaine Maxwell deal.

[Jake Rakatansky]

She is looking for that sweet deal.

[Liv Akar]

Honestly, my opinion. Free her. What, She's. She's going to steal another election? Like, probably not. I don't think so.

[Travis View]

Probably not.

[Jake Rakatansky]

Yeah.

[Liv Akar]

I don't think she's a threat to society.

[Jake Rakatansky]

So her lawyers are also using this habeas petition to advertise new depositions they allegedly took over the summer from anonymous Venezuelan informants who they claim provide evidence that Dominion and smartmatic are in fact able to rig elections. So, like, they're still doing the same thing. Like, so actually live. She hasn't learned. Her lawyers are literally like, no, no, no, we've got new depositions and that.

[Guest or Additional Commentator]

Means there's going to be new probes.

[Jake Rakatansky]

Which means she's going to need to be in witness protection. So, like, you got to move into the cushy fed joint where she can make the tomato stew. So despite all of this, at a recent hearing, Federal Magistrate Judge Scott Varholek ruled that the depositions would not be allowed to be used in Peter's case. And furthermore, he hadn't heard anything from the Justice Department regarding a transfer request. Even if it comes, it's up to the state of Colorado, and Governor Jared Polis and Attorney General Phil Weiser are completely in agreement. I believe the Quote was synced up that Peters will serve her time. So it really doesn't look good for her at all.

[Liv Akar]

It's interesting that Trump is bothering with this. I mean, I guess the lesson there is that Trump is loyal to Peters, people who are willing to break the law for him as a sign of, like, if you do this and you get caught, like, if I have anything to say about it, I will get you off.

[Jake Rakatansky]

And in this case, it costs him nothing because he could be like, I.

[Guest or Additional Commentator]

Hereby pardon Dana Bader's wonderful woman, and it'll mean nothing.

[Jake Rakatansky]

And then he'll be like, they're keeping her.

[Guest or Additional Commentator]

Like, they're not listening to my pardon.

[Travis View]

Yeah, yeah. You know, it's like, it's really interesting that it's like by sticking to this theory and claiming that she's been wrongfully convicted, she's also seems to be sinking in the opportunity for early release or parole. They usually look for someone who's, like, acknowledged that they done wrong and repentant. So she's so in on this. She's like, guaranteeing that she's going to serve her full sentence.

[Liv Akar]

Free her. That's final message.

[Jake Rakatansky]

Yeah, final. Yeah. Final thoughts, Travis, after this wonderful, this wonderful news roundup.

[Travis View]

No, let's, let's have Tina Peters and Cash Patel switch positions and have Marjorie Taylor Greene and Ghislaine Max switch positions. Let's put Ghislaine Maxwell in Congress. Let's see what she does.

[Liv Akar]

Yeah, I mean, it's not worse than the President, you know, like, I mean.

[Travis View]

Yeah, what the fuck? Exactly. What the fuck is, like, Ghislaine Maskwell going to do in Congress? Protect pedophiles or protect the Epstein files? They're already doing that.

[Jake Rakatansky]

Look, folks, if we've learned one thing here at the QAA podcast is that anybody can be in any position of government. You don't have to have one smart brain and your body to be at the highest level of powers in the richest country in the world. I hope everybody has a wonderful rest of your night sleeping in your pitiful. Your pitiful beds. Hopefully, you know, you're, you know, not in twin beds, you know, maybe at least you got a full size. Hopefully not a futon. You know, it's comfortable, you know, but, you know, while the kings and queens, you know, asleep on a pile of mattresses in their castles.

[Liv Akar]

Enjoy your non congressional futons, everyone.

[Jake Rakatansky]

Yeah, enjoy having to drive like three hours to the college upstate to see your girlfriend play concert.

[Liv Akar]

You have a graduate degree, your PhD. Doesn't matter. That's not who gets to run things in this country.

[Jake Rakatansky]

I didn't even know the FBI had a private jet.

[Liv Akar]

I guess it makes sense if you think about it. Why not? If Taylor Swift's got one, I think.

[Jake Rakatansky]

Cash Patel is probably. Definitely. I wonder if he's the first FBI director to get. Obviously, we cut that out. Of course. That's all. That's. That's a Julian joke. And I'll leave. I'll leave the Julian jokes to Julian. Thanks for listening to another episode of the QAA podcast. You can go to patreon.comqaa and subscribe for $5 a month to get a whole second episode every single week, plus access to our entire archive of premium episodes. You can also see Liv Agar on Twitch. Liv?

[Liv Akar]

Yeah, I stream Tuesday, Thursday, Sunday at noon approximately Pacific time at Twitch TV liveagar.

[Jake Rakatansky]

Nice. Go check it out. How's that been going?

[Liv Akar]

It's good. Yeah, we're doing well. Especially when Hasan isn't streaming those Sundays. I stream a lot more because he's usually his break day. There's a lot of overlap in the audience, but it's been fun.

[Jake Rakatansky]

In the vacuum of Hasan, Liv stands alone.

[Liv Akar]

Exactly, Exactly. I stand above the rest. Yeah, it's basically just me rambling for six hours straight, but just like, whatever.

[Jake Rakatansky]

Damn, that's crazy. How do you ramble for six hours straight? You know, I had a panic attack during a live show. I can't remember. I think maybe in Colorado, just Talking for like 30 minutes was enough to make me run out of air and panic.

[Liv Akar]

I think you get used to it. Cause like, a live show is different because you can. Can see everyone. But for me, it's just a chat and it's just like a viewer amount and it's much easier to comprehend. Like a thousand people listening to you, theoretically, on the Internet is like, way less difficult. And you do have a chat so you can kind of riff off of them. And I think you just get used to it eventually. It's like podcasting. You just get used to talking and.

[Jake Rakatansky]

You now have overcome the. Now that you've like, defeated becoming the main character on Twitter for a day, you know, now handling a Twitch chat, because that was always my thing. And when we were doing streaming during the pandemic, it's like everybody in the Twitch chat would be like, this is awesome, man. So funny. Love you guys. Yada, yada yada. And then there'd be one guy that's like, just suck. It's like Happy Gilmore, the guy that's like jackass. You know, there's like one person there who's like, like a troll. And like I, I would just, like, I would just obsess about it.

[Liv Akar]

I think the difference is that like on Twitch, it's not like Twitter, you like have control over the discussion and what everyone is saying. It's like your little petty fiefdom.

[Jake Rakatansky]

So you can exile, you can exile anybody who's not active, right?

[Liv Akar]

Yeah, you can exile you for 10 years. You know, on Twitter, like people coach what you. There's nothing you can do about it. So it's very different, especially at a lower level, if it's not like one of the massive, you know, Hassan 20,000 viewer chats.

[Jake Rakatansky]

Right. Well, go watch live on Twitch and don't be a, don't be a adversary, don't be no hate watchers. No hate watcher. Don't serve. Don't get yourself a ten year ban. Just, just, you know, participate healthily. We've also got a website that's qaapodcast.com.

[Travis View]

Listeners until next week. May the deep dish bless you and keep you.

[Interviewer or Questioner]

We have auto keyed content based on your preferences, remembering your oath to tell the truth. Did you ever tell Donald Trump his name is in the files?

[Witness or Respondent]

I have never spoken to President Trump about the Epstein files.

[Interviewer or Questioner]

Did you ever tell the Attorney General that Donald Trump's name is in the Epstein files?

[Witness or Respondent]

The Attorney General and I have had numerous discussions about the entirety of the Epstein files and the reviews conducted by our team.

[Interviewer or Questioner]

Did you tell the Attorney General that Donald Trump's name is in the Epstein files?

[Witness or Respondent]

And we have released where President Trump.

[Jake Rakatansky]

Simple question.

[Interviewer or Questioner]

Did you tell the Attorney General that the President's name is in the FT files?

[Witness or Respondent]

During the many conversations that the Attorney General and I have had on the matter of Epstein, we have reviewed.

[Jake Rakatansky]

The question is simple.

[Interviewer or Questioner]

Who tell the Attorney General that Donald Trump's name is in the Epstein files? Yes or no?

[Witness or Respondent]

Why don't you try spelling it out?

[Interviewer or Questioner]

Yes or no?

[Witness or Respondent]

Use the Alphabet.

[Interviewer or Questioner]

Yes or no?

[Travis View]

No.

[Witness or Respondent]

A, B, C. Director, it sounds like.

[Interviewer or Questioner]

You don't want to tell us. Did you tell the Attorney General that Donald Trump's name was in the NC files?

[Witness or Respondent]

Why don't you try serving your constituency by. By focusing on reducing violent crime in this country and the number of pedophiles that are legally harbored in your sanctuary cities in California? I work with you on that regular order, Mr. Chairman.

[Liv Akar]

I belong to a gentleman from California.

[Interviewer or Questioner]

Did you tell the Attorney General that Donald Trump's name is in the FC files.

[Witness or Respondent]

Question has been asked and answered.

[Interviewer or Questioner]

You have not answered it. And we will take your evasiveness as a consciousness of guilt.

[Liv Akar]

Sam.