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Liv Agar
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Jake Rockatansky
If you're hearing this, well done. You found a way to connect to the Internet. Welcome to the qaa podcast, episode 310 confirming Trump's quabinate with Q's to be clear, with cues to be queer. I said, as always, we are your hosts, Jake Rockatansky, Liv Agar and Travis View. Well, folks, things absolutely fucking suck again. Again, Trump's administration is moving at a fevered pace to jam through as many executive orders and to undo decades of progress, doing their very best to erase what was starting to become a kinder, more inclusive government that at the very least acknowledged that gay, trans and non binary people exist. Trump is signing orders like a man shoveling McNuggets into his mouth on the evening before he goes to the electric chair. But amidst these orders and sweeping policy announcements, one can't help but shake the feeling that much of the Republican Party is being influenced. Influenced, or at the very least catering to QAnon beliefs. I remember at one point the elite punditry held many a talking head panel about how Republicans would need to distance themselves from QAnon, especially in the wake of the January 6th insurrection, if they wanted to capture a majority of American voters. Turns out they were wrong, that actually by folding QAnon ideology into their platform, they could gain more voters and not have to mention Q at all, but. But instead nod and wink when appropriate to let adherents know, hey, we're pilled to the gills too. Many of Trump's nominees have played significant roles in the QAnon world, either by retweeting pro QAnon accounts, going on pro QAnon podcasts, or being a part of the Kennedy family. Some, like Kash Patel, have even been mentioned in Q drops themselves. And now, with announcements regarding human trafficking, mass firings at the FBI, and revoking former intelligence officials security clearances, it's easy to see how conspiracy theorists could believe that this time the storm is finally upon us. So first, for today's episode, we're going to be checking in with Travis View, who has been following Trump's cabinet confirmation hearings. And after that, I will be running down the list of recent, quote, unquote, storm adjacent actions taken by Trump in the very small amount of time he's been president. It's going to be a long four years, folks. We'll do our best, but no promises. Travis.
Travis View
Yeah, you know, you know, one of the most important tasks for a president is choosing their cabinet. You know, if it's the role of a president to make important decisions, then you obviously want to be advised by the best, most honest, most discerning people available. And historically, this has sometimes involved choosing cabinet members who are willing to challenge and disagree with you. But Trump values loyalty more than traditional qualifications. So the pool of people he can choose from is pretty small. In fact, even smaller than it was in his first administration. In fact, he has been reduced to nominating people who have been previously profiled on this podcast, which primarily covers unhinged nonsense from the Internet.
Jake Rockatansky
True.
Travis View
So for the role of Secretary of Defense, he chose Fox News host Pete Hegseth. For FBI Director, he is nominated loyalist and children's book author Kash Patel. And for the role of head of Health and Human Services, he nominated vaccine denialist RFK Jr. And for the Director of National Intelligence, he nominated Tulsi Gabbard, who seemingly is beholden to the cult Science of Identity foundation without being transparent about that fact.
Liv Agar
I know she's so mad that Assad fell, like, right before she got into power here.
Jake Rockatansky
Yeah.
Travis View
Right now these are all people who are not just unqualified, but seemingly have, like, anti qualifications.
Liv Agar
Yeah.
Jake Rockatansky
They should be disqualified.
Travis View
It's like if you wanted to do the opposite of what your job is. Like, if your job is to make people healthier, if your job is reduce health, you have to be qualified. It's like bizarro ca. Pete Hegseth has already been fully confirmed. And actually, I'm willing to bet the rest are all going to get into.
Liv Agar
Sure, why not? Who's going to oppose them? It's not as if there's another party. That's.
Unidentified Guest
No.
Jake Rockatansky
Yeah, it's literally like across the aisle is just like, you know, in. In like Lord of the Rings, like how he has to, like, they have to, like, conjure up that, like, ghost army. That's like. Am I thinking of the right movie? Is it Lord. Is it Lord of the Rings where they have, like, the ghost.
Liv Agar
Think of Ghostbusters again.
Jake Rockatansky
No, no, no. There's like, they have to like, go like a group man. Maybe it's a different fantasy movie, but, like, they have to, like, go rile up a ghost army to fight. And like, at first they don't want to, but, like, then the ghost army comes over the hill and they sort of like, help at the end. But, like, I imagine like Republicans looking across the aisle and just seeing, like, glowing. Just like glowing like semi blue green, like transparent husks. Just kind of like crying softly, like, with a lot of reverb.
Travis View
So let's talk a bit about how their confirmation hearings are going and specifically, I want to talk about Kash Patel and RFK Jr. Now, the prospect of Cash Patel being FBI director is really ludicrous. I mean, once he gets in, he's obviously going to use the FBI in whatever way that Trump wants. That includes prosecuting his enemies and exonerating his friends. During the confirmation hearings, Patel was asked about his connections to extremist movements, including QAnon, and his apparent intention to use the FBI against Trump's political opponents. His answers were evasive at best, and at some points, he arguably outright lied under oath. The person who asked about his connection to QAnon was the Republican Senator Chuck Grassley, who, by the way, is also mentioned positively in Q drops. There are a few that say trust.
Jake Rockatansky
Grassley, which is if you're a cool, like, spy insider, you know, many, many years in the intelligence community, you're sort of leading your. Your, your readers on a. On a Tom Clancy esque adventure, and you go, trust Grassley and you go over and look at a picture of this guy. It really doesn't inspire a ton of confidence.
Travis View
Despite the fact that Kash Patel has appeared on several QAnon shows over the years and even signed copies of his children's book with a Where we go one, we go all, he claimed that he rejected what he called QAnon baseless conspiracy theories.
Jake Rockatansky
Are you a follower or promoter of QAnon?
Kash Patel
No, Senator. In fact, I have publicly, including in the interviews provided to this committee, rejected outright QAnon baseless conspiracy theories or any other baseless conspiracy theories. They must be addressed head on with the truth. And I will continue to do that. And I will always continue to support Americans who support law enforcement, our military, and want a secure border.
Liv Agar
It's like he can't even say no. He's like, no, I don't like you, and on. But also, down with the three letter agencies. I love that. I love our troops.
Jake Rockatansky
Yeah, he really looks like a guy who's got his, like, back to the corner. He's like, I don't believe that shit. I didn't touch that bitch.
Travis View
Yeah, every word of that response is very practiced and lawyerly and deliberate. It probably went through multiple revisions.
Jake Rockatansky
Yes.
Liv Agar
I wonder, does Grassley know really what QAnon is like? Do you think he knows he was mentioned in a drop or is this one of those things of, like, God.
Jake Rockatansky
That'S a great question.
Liv Agar
Yeah. When senators were, like, grilling people about, like, crypto, and they have no clue what they're talking about.
Jake Rockatansky
They've got to. If you're a Republican, you have got to know about QAnon, because odds are there's somebody in your family or friend, sir, that's hitting you up on the low, going, hey, did you see Q mentioned you in a drop?
Liv Agar
You know?
Travis View
Yeah. In that. In that response, you could tell it's kind of deliberate because, like, QAnon followers pointed out. He didn't say he denounced QAnon generally. He said that he rejects QAnon baseless conspiracy theories.
Jake Rockatansky
Yes.
Travis View
According to, like, QAnon followers. Okay, that's obviously different from the verifiable true information that they have emerged through the Q community. And, of course, they also fell back on the classic, well, you know, they asked about QAnon is no Q. Anon. Right. There are Q and the Anon. So that's like the nonsense thing. It was like, a Q drop. Bullshit. But it's like yellow year. He said that he talked about that, and then Cash Pateli immediately followed up and was like, oh, but I will always support Americans who believe in law enforcement and, like, you know, a secure border. He's like. He immediately went back to, essentially, you want to be mistaken for being perceived as sort of, like, denouncing QAnon followers. So he threw in that kind of praise, and they're like, you know, actually, guys, I got your back.
Jake Rockatansky
Well, there's so much QAnon in the water anyways, that if you denounce QAnon outright, you denounce, like, kind of the platform, you know, the Republican platform in a lot of ways.
Liv Agar
And there's so much in the water that if you just say, like, I support the military. I support our troops. I support, you know, it, like, already kind of sounds like you believe in it. Anyways.
Jake Rockatansky
Yeah.
Travis View
Cash Patel was asked by Senator Dick Durbin about his connection to the neo Nazi podcaster Stu Peters, which led to this exchange. You familiar with the Stu Peters? Does that name ring a bell?
Kash Patel
I'm sorry, what?
Travis View
Are you familiar with Mr. Stu Peters?
Kash Patel
Not off the top of my head.
Travis View
He made eight separate appearances on his podcast. I mean, my God, that is a lot. Besides this one, I have never appeared eight times on any single podcast.
Jake Rockatansky
No, me neither.
Liv Agar
It's like a West Wing moment.
Travis View
Yeah.
Jake Rockatansky
Damn. That's so funny. His face is so funny. He clearly wasn't ready for that question.
Liv Agar
He, like, shrinks down, too. He gets kind of small. His body language.
Jake Rockatansky
Eight appears. These guys are definitely, like, messaging each other on. On Twitter. Stu Peters. They probably have each other's signal. Signal numbers.
Liv Agar
Yeah. He's like, do they have the messages like, how. How deep in this.
Jake Rockatansky
It's like, if I were up there, and. And they were like, do you know somebody named Julian Fields? They're like, ring any bells? And I'm like, oh, who? They're like, you appeared on a podcast with him 600 times.
Travis View
I don't know. I know. We'll see how if, like, Cash Patel takes over federal law enforcement, we might find ourselves in a position to ask if we know him.
Jake Rockatansky
Yeah, that's true. That's going to be so fucked if he gets in. And why wouldn't he? Right? Like Liv said earlier, who's. Who's going to stop them?
Liv Agar
Yeah.
Travis View
Yeah. Dick Durbin also asked Patel about his connection to the. The recording of the song justice for all, though. There's a charity song, and it consists of Trump reciting the Pledge of Allegiance over January, six writers singing the Star Spangled Band. This was relevant to some of the senators because the director of the FBI is supposedly the chief law enforcement officer. And to produce a song that seems to celebrate or, like, you know, whitewash the January 6th writers seems to indicate a special affection for at least certain lawbreakers. Previously, when Kash Patel was speaking on Steve Bannon's podcast, he indicated that he was very much involved with the production of the song.
Kash Patel
So what we thought would be cool is if we captured that audio and, of course, had the greatest president, President Donald J. Trump, recite the Pledge of Allegiance. Then we went to a studio and recorded it, mastered it, and digitized it, and put it out as a song. Now releasing exclusively on War Room.
Jake Rockatansky
Oh, my Lord. Exclusive. I thought he was gonna say exclusively on itunes or something, but sounds like.
Liv Agar
He'S on, like, the Breakfast Club promoting his new signal.
Travis View
However, when he was questioned about it during the hearing, Patel indicated that he had nothing to do with that. He wasn't even aware of who made the recording.
Unidentified Guest
My understanding is that the performers on.
Travis View
This J6 choir were the rioters who are in prison.
Kash Patel
I'm not aware of that, sir. I didn't have anything to do with the recording.
Unidentified Guest
You weren't aware of who made the recording?
Jake Rockatansky
No. Senator, does he not realize that when you do a video podcast that gets posted to the Internet, these things sort of stay up and people can reference them to make sure that you're not lying?
Liv Agar
I mean, it's probably not even gonna matter anyways.
Travis View
Oh, of course not.
Jake Rockatansky
I guess it doesn't matter. He probably was coached to be like, if they ask you about something that's weird, just lie about it.
Liv Agar
Yeah, just say, I don't know. I can't remember. I just. Look, I put those recordings in there. Cause it sounded cool. It was, like, ominous. I didn't know who recorded it.
Jake Rockatansky
Look, I went to sleep one night, and when I woke up in the morning, somebody had put together this song. They had mastered it, and they had released it exclusively on War.
Travis View
Right now, as I'm speaking, Patel isn't yet confirmed for the position. Yesterday, the Democrats on the Senate Judiciary Committee made a request to the committee chair, Chuck Grassley, for a second hearing with Patel. Among other things, they want to press Patel on his apparent falsehoods regarding his statements on the January six choir recording. But again, I don't know if that's going to even happen. And I'm confident he's going to sail through. I mean, I've seen, like, so many, like, threats to Republican senators who may dare to not vote for Trump's picks. I mean, they're, they're scared. So, yeah, I'm pretty confident he's going to sail right through.
Jake Rockatansky
Cash Patel is a pretty young guy. Looked it up. He's 44 years old, just a couple, couple of years older than, than you and me. Travis, is that one of the younger, you know, would be FBI directors that we've had?
Travis View
I can't say. I know. I mean, it sounds, yeah, sounds 44. That sounds young, but I don't know.
Jake Rockatansky
That's, you know, definitely somebody who, who is part of this, you know, our weird generation that grew up without Internet but. But got Internet soon enough into our lives to be, you know, to be susceptible at least to becoming, you know, online, you know, very online swamp creatures. And given, you know, Patel's sort of signaling to QAnon and the podcast that he appears on, it'll be weird. It'll be weird if he gets in to have like a proper, sort of like, weird alt, right, very online conspiracy podcast guest. As a director of the FBI, it sort of sours this, this sort of theory that you've been seeing online from liberals who are hopeful that the three letter agencies and that the good deep state, the good law enforcement agencies will stop, will stop Trump and his team from destroying America. If you've got Kash Patel as the head of the FBI.
Liv Agar
No, but, Jake, you don't understand. There are people in the three letter agencies who have a plan and they're gonna work around Cash Patel because he's an idiot and he's a moron. I mean, that part's true. I guess. He doesn't know what he's doing.
Jake Rockatansky
Yeah. See, to me, that kind of QAnon makes a lot more sense that there's an opposition party when the. The people who control the levels of government are the bad guys. Right. Whereas the original QAnon, it was like Trump was in office. He had won. I mean, he was in power. And the theory is that, oh, well, there are. There are bad actors sort of within. It's kind of like a weird reverse.
Liv Agar
I think that's maybe why it was so effective is because it's like, usually you want to do conspiracy theories when you're losing because it's like, oh, well, there is someone up there who has your interest. Don't worry about it. It's not as if, again, there's literally no one at the wheel right now. It's just like you're about to plunge into a bridge. But when you're in power and you do it, you can be much more optimistic. I feel like, especially core 2017-2019 QAnon people were so happy, surprisingly cheerful about the fact that our guy in power is all powerful and he's going to do these incredible things. Maybe that's why it was, but also why it was so effective, because it's like winning, but even more.
Jake Rockatansky
Yeah, it was popcorn memes. It was. Watch the, you know, get ready for the show. Oh, my God, I can't wait to see Clinton swing, you know.
Travis View
Now I also want to talk about, like, RFK Jr. Because I think that of all the nominees, maybe Pete Hagseth, but like, besides him, of all the nominees, he could probably do the most damage in his position because, like Cash Patel, there's only so many people you can, like, prosecute. Right? You can only so many people you can harb through the weaponization of federal law enforcement. But with RFK Jr. The worst case scenario was much, much worse, where, like, many, many people can get sick and die.
Liv Agar
There's currently a bird flu going on right now that I guess they're just not doing anything about.
Travis View
So I'm not going to cover go over every single batshit thing that RFK Jr has said. But I do want to highlight one of my personal favorites, which is that he once claimed that COVID 19 was ethnically targeted to spare Ashkenazi Jews and Chinese people.
Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
COVID 19 is targeted to attack Caucasians and black people. The people who are most immune are Ashkenazi Jews and Chinese. We don't know whether it was deliberately targeted that or not, but there are papers out there that show the racial and ethnic differential Impact to that. We do know that the Chinese are spending hundreds of millions of dollars developing plastic bio weapons.
Liv Agar
Another implication there, that the Jewish people aren't white. Like, it's already like. Like a hidden, terrifying Nazi thing.
Jake Rockatansky
Yeah, yeah, that is. That is. And also, he's wrong. My family has Ashkenazi genes and I've gotten Covid like four times, so. And I got very sick, so. So wrong again.
Travis View
Yeah, no, listen, I am. I am. I am Western European and Jake has gotten Covid times than I have.
Liv Agar
Yeah.
Travis View
So here Kennedy is referring to a 2020 paper titled New Insights into Genetic Susceptibility of COVID 19. So it did not conclude that Chinese people were less affected by the virus. It said that one of the virus's receptors appeared to be absent in the Amish and Ashkenazi Jews and speculated that certain genetic mutations could increase COVID 19 severity.
Liv Agar
So it's really the Germans that are getting away with this too.
Travis View
Yeah, but the papers show that these mutations are rare, and any potential impact would have little to no bearing on public health. And further, since the virus has mutated a lot since that paper was published, there's no reason to believe that those initial findings were even valid. So there's nothing in that research that actually suggested that the virus was targeted to hurt certain races. The highlight of RFK Jr. S confirmation hearing was when Senator Bernie Sanders grilled RFK Jr. On his anti vaccine stance. Specifically, Sanders zeroed in on the Children's Health Defense. This is an anti vaccine nonprofit organization for which Kennedy is named as a founder and former chairman of the board. RFK Jr. Has tried to downplay his past statements against vaccines, but as Sanders pointed out, this organization sells onesies for infants that carry anti vaccine messages.
Senator Bernie Sanders
Right now, as I understand it, on their website, they are selling what's called onesies. These are little things, clothing for babies. One of them is dialed unfax, unafraid, next one. And they're sold for 26 bucks a piece. By the way, next one is no vax. No problem. Now you're coming before this committee and you say you are pro vaccine. Just want to ask some questions. And yet your organization is making money selling a child's product to parents for 26 bucks, which casts fundamental doubt on the usefulness of vaccines. Can you tell us now that you will, now that you are pro vaccine, that you're going to have your organization take these products off the market?
Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
Senator, I have no power over that organization.
Donald Trump
I'm not.
Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
You've heard of it? I resigned from the Board.
Senator Bernie Sanders
That was just a few months ago. You founded that. You certainly have power. You can make that. Are you supportive of this?
Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
I've had nothing to do with.
Senator Bernie Sanders
Are you supportive of these onesies?
Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
I'm supportive of vaccines.
Senator Bernie Sanders
Are you supportive of these, these. This clothing which is militantly anti vaccine.
Liv Agar
Unvaxed baby onesie for sale. Never worn. Yeah, Bernie has been doing pretty well. He's like basically the only Dem that has gotten out of this with like, broad support. I mean, people broadly like Bernie because he's like, consistent in messaging and clearly actually has principles. It's a shame that the party didn't, you know, mold itself around his image, you know, four years ago. Maybe they'd be doing better right now.
Jake Rockatansky
Yeah, he's just bubbling at the brim too. He's so pissed about this. And it's genuine and it's a great question. It's a great question. And you can see RFK Jr just absolutely melt into his chair. You know, I've got nothing to do with this organization. And it's like, damn. Yeah, it's nice to see it. It's nice to see it. It's nice to know that there's like one guy out there that's, you know, seems appropriately upset about all of this.
Liv Agar
And his messaging is popular. Like his recent, like, videos on Trump, Trump on YouTube have gotten millions of views. Like, I don't know what other Dem has done anything equivalent in relation to like, New age messaging. Like, the Democrats really have a problem where they're used to, like, messaging in 2008. Like, the digital age is really too fast for them and they just haven't caught up.
Jake Rockatansky
Yeah, I think that there was, I think, I think Democrats in some ways, you know how, you know how the QAnon people think that like, they never, you know, they never thought that she would lose. You know, they never, they never thought she would lose. I think that there's some, there's some truth to that, that, you know, after eight years of Obama, I think Democrats sort of felt like they won the culture war, that like, they were never going to lose again because it seemed like everybody, everybody sort of broadly was. Was with it. They were very interested in progress, quote, unquote. And so it's like they almost. It's like they don't know what to do. They don't know what to do when they're on the ropes. Other. Other than kind of pretend that they're, you know, mounting this resistance. We're going to be, we will be out in the streets. We Will posting and it's just, it's not good enough. You have to have some kind of message.
Liv Agar
Yeah, Biden has especially ruined a lot of people's trust in Democrat messaging that they just openly supported that guy as he was incredibly senile. The way that people talk about Trump, you would think that he wasn't like in his late 70s and actively dementing because that effect just doesn't work anymore. It's like, oh, yeah, you Democrats are worried about Donald Trump's age for sure. He really just poisoned the way and everyone else and everyone who supported him and pretended that he was fine really just poisoned the well for that party so thoroughly.
Travis View
Now I feel like I should also mention an unofficial cabinet member who is more powerful than all the official ones, which is Elon Musk and his Doge or Department of Government Efficiency Department. Now, I remember before Trump was sworn in, people were talking about this Doge, ah, this is the pretend government department. It'll just be an advisory role. It's probably something that Trump just gave Musk to make him feel more involved. But they've had much more impact than people previously thought that they would. Now, I sometimes talk about how like QAnon people, they don't really want to get rid of the deep state. They just want like a good deep state that they think will defeat the bad deep state and all the bad. This I feel like something similar is kind of like going on with Musk and all like the Trump people who are supporting Musk and that. So Republicans complain about, like, the influence of, like, for example, billionaire George Soros in politics. And like, if you want to talk about the influence of political donors, that's great. If you want to, like, reduce or eliminate the influence of billionaires into our federal government, that's fantastic. But that's a broader conversation. But it seems as though Trump supporters don't want to get rid of the influence of billionaires as much as they want a billionaire that they like doing the influencing. So according to reporting, people affiliated with Musk just assumed control over the human resources and financial systems of the federal government. Musk and his DOGE lieutenants have taken over the Office of Personal Management and the General Services Administration, along with their computer systems. A Musk team also gained access to the U.S. treasury Department's payment system, which sends out more than $6 trillion a year on behalf of federal agencies and contains the personal information of millions of Americans who receive Social Security payments, tax refunds and other government payments. Now, one of these organizations that receives funds is a charity Called the Lutheran Family Services. This is a, you know, non government organization. It provides, like, healthcare for people who are homeless. They also run a homeless shelter and they offer support to victims of domestic violence, among other services. In response to a tweet from Michael Flynn calling this organization a money laundering organization, Elon Musk claimed that, quote, doge is rapidly shutting down these illegal payments.
Jake Rockatansky
So Michael Flynn writes, now it's the Lutheran faith. This use of religion as a money laundering operation must end. Lutheran Family Services and affiliated organizations receive massive amounts of taxpayer dollars. And the numbers speak for themselves. These funds total billions of Americans. Show more.
Travis View
Yeah, cut that. Hold on. All right, we're gonna cut that after. After, after themselves.
Jake Rockatansky
Oh, boy. No, no, we're leaving that. No, we're leaving that. We're leaving. Show more. Absolutely. Okay. And then Elon. Elon responds to it. He goes. Because the OGE team is rapidly shutting down these illegal payments.
Liv Agar
Turns out the Constitution just isn't real. Like, it just doesn't matter. All these, you know, centuries of democratic institutions, it's just, yeah, what are you going to do about it? And I guess so far the answer is nothing.
Travis View
Yeah, I know. It's like there are two things going on here. It's like, wait a minute. Illegal? I mean, it's like, I have no. I have no opinion on whether or not, you know, these payments are illegal. I'm questioning, like, who decided this? Did, like, Elon Musk just unilaterally decide which payments, which functions are illegal and which not are not? Just like, no. Like, investigation, no trial, no indictment, just Musk tweeting decides what is and is not illegal. That doesn't seem like, you know, a very, very efficient system.
Jake Rockatansky
Travis View. Travis. Travis View's tax return looks like an illegal payment. I will be shutting it down effective immediately. Yeah.
Travis View
The other thing is that this guy. This guy is not, you know, again, like, nobody elect him. And it's like no one is sort of like, unilaterally deciding how money is being spent. He can sort of unilaterally decide who does or does not get money. I mean, it's. It's ludicrous.
Liv Agar
Yeah. It's like not even the President trying to violate, like, congressional authority over funding. It's just some guy and his team.
Jake Rockatansky
Of, like, Fortnite Players.
Liv Agar
Broccoli head zoomers. Yo. This funding is not busing. For real?
Jake Rockatansky
For real, for real.
Liv Agar
For real.
Jake Rockatansky
Real Fur.
Senator Bernie Sanders
Fur.
Jake Rockatansky
Fur.
Liv Agar
Fur.
Jake Rockatansky
Yeah.
Kash Patel
Yeah.
Jake Rockatansky
It's not good. It's really bad. It's really bad. You go, no.
Liv Agar
Oh, no.
Jake Rockatansky
They got what they wanted.
Travis View
I know. Sometimes you see, like, you complain about this, like, what.
Jake Rockatansky
What are you doing?
Travis View
You can't just control, like, how payments are made, and then their response is like, oh, so it's like, so. So you're like, you know, just okay with the government committing fraud? No, I'm. I'm okay with, like, we got a system that determines what is and is not fraud, and we have a system that determines who does or does not get government money here Is not transparent. Like I said, doge, for example, as far as I know, doesn't fall under, like, the Freedom of Information act because it's like a. Not a real government agency. So we have no transparency into what's going on in there, like we do with other government organizations. So it's really horrifying.
Jake Rockatansky
Yeah. What. What official capacity? Do they. Are they, like. Do they. Are they an llc? I mean, as far as I know, it seems just like a Twitter account. He's like, Immortan Joe, like, controlling the water, but he's like, do not become addicted to your Social Security pay. They will warp your mind.
Travis View
Yeah. Wired has done some really great reporting on the people who are involved in this Doge team. And of course, you know, they're all fair game for reporting because they have this much influence and power, and, like, a lot of people made hay about how young they are. I don't give a shit about how young they are, honestly, but. Because I'm really more concerned about the influence they have. They're all. They're all, you know, lives generation, which is, you know, it's grim. I don't know.
Liv Agar
I think it's bad, personally.
Jake Rockatansky
What were you going to say, Travis? You sounded like you were like, they're all lives generation, which is just like, hit or miss.
Travis View
I mean, it's like it was. I was going to say it's fine. It's like I'm actually like. I mean, it's, I think, like having, like, you know, not in this instance, but more generally speaking, like, having younger people involved in the. In the government is, I think, a nice counterbalance to the fact that, you know, all on the verge of death.
Jake Rockatansky
Yeah, sure, sure. But we don't want, like, Roblox players, you know.
Travis View
Now, of course, of course, the people involved with it, they're all fair game for reporting, but the fact that they were reported on sparked some outrage. And in fact, it seems as though the acting U.S. attorney for the District of Columbia, Ed Martin, is threatening people who scrutinize the Doge team. And this was expressed in a letter that he wrote to Elon Musk.
Liv Agar
I recognize that some of the staff at Doge has been targeted publicly at this time. I ask that you utilize me and my staff to assist in protecting Doge work and the Doge workers. Even just it's so Reddit the Doge workers.
Travis View
I was thinking this is like the troll in Musk must be fucking absolutely enthralled that he got like a fucking U.S. attorney to talk about DOGE workers.
Liv Agar
He continues, any threats, confrontations or other actions in any way that impact their work may break numerous laws. Let me assure you of this. We will pursue any and all legal action against anyone who impedes your work or threatens your people. People.
Travis View
Again, this is like a US Attorney writing to Elon Musk and said, use me as your instrument. I will go after anyone who dares impede you and the people who are working for you. It's really gross. Now people have suggested that the way Doge is operating is breaking the law. I'm not qualified to comment on that. But here's the thing. It's crime season. We've talked about that in the previous episode. I don't think it's just crypto crime season. I think it's generally white collar crime season. Obviously lower level offenses will probably be still cracked down, but it's white collar crime season. So the only rule during crime season is that you can do whatever you can get away with. So the real question is, is Musk going to get away with it? And you know, that's remains to be seen.
Jake Rockatansky
I don't know.
Travis View
I have a feeling once you're worth half a trillion dollars, that's like, that's that kind of like it's an unheard level of wealth and influence. So I think he has pretty good chances.
Jake Rockatansky
I think that we have no choice but to put all of our faith in George Soros son. A good billionaire who can, who can like challenge. It'll be like Superman versus Doomsday. You know, we need these two to face off like Neo and Agent Smith in like some like rusted out subway station. I think that's the only way that we're going to solve this. We need a good billionaire to come in and destroy Musk and his broccoli headed henchmen.
Liv Agar
Because isn't there a Soros in the Trump admin? Is it his son? There's some other Soros.
Jake Rockatansky
I think there is actually.
Liv Agar
So maybe he's the white hat.
Jake Rockatansky
Maybe he is the white hat. That would be awesome. That would be awesome if flew it on started theories that the younger Soros within the Trump admin is a white hat. Taking it down from the inside. I'm all for it. We just need an anonymous poster. We've got everything else. All the other elements are in play. There's that like rogue White House senior staffer account. But that guy just does like, like, did he really, like he's just doing kind of soy like, you know, Republicans are hypocrites. We need somebody that's, that's, that's doing drops that's, you know, dripping into doing leaks like I'm waiting for who's that.
Liv Agar
Person going to be a dark woke version of that. It's bound to happen.
Jake Rockatansky
Yes.
Liv Agar
An anonymous user who calls Donald Trump the R word or whatever. Yeah, whatever liberals are doing now.
Jake Rockatansky
Yeah, make blue sky. Totally anonymous. Turn it into a new chan now. In 2017, when Donald Trump first took office, he issued a slew of executive orders in an effort to reassure his supporters that he was going to, going to be following through on campaign promises. Here are a couple, just to refresh your memory.
Liv Agar
Repealing Obamacare.
Travis View
Slashing regulations on infrastructure projects.
Jake Rockatansky
Building the wall.
Liv Agar
The infamous travel ban.
Travis View
For every new regulation issued, two must be eliminated.
Jake Rockatansky
At the time, this felt totally extreme and dystopian. And I remember it was one of those can they even do that? Moments of national panic. And that was before QAnon was even a thing. Little did we fucking know that just a couple months later, an anonymous 4chan account would begin to steer the Republican Party towards an even more extreme agenda. Now, here are just a few of Trump's executive orders this time around. Five years after Republicans have been utterly cooked by QAnon conspiracy theories and Elon Musk's Twitter.
Liv Agar
Ending radical indoctrination in K through 12 schools.
Travis View
Cooling Protecting children from chemical and surgical mutilation.
Jake Rockatansky
Reinstating service members who were fired for refusing to be vaccinated.
Liv Agar
Declassifying government documents pertaining to the assassination of jfk.
Travis View
Blanket pardons for all who had been imprisoned for crimes committed on January 6, 2021.
Jake Rockatansky
Abolishing diversity and inclusion programs across all branches of government.
Liv Agar
Combating human trafficking and online child exploitation.
Travis View
Revoking security clearance of 50 former intelligence officials.
Jake Rockatansky
Firing anyone at the FBI involved in investigations regarding January 6th or of Trump himself.
Liv Agar
Open Guantanamo Bay to detain 30,000 migrants. The last one is a beautiful, you know, end of the Obama legacy of failing to close Guantanamo, especially in respect. You see, people respond like, oh, what would the Democrats possibly do? While the Republicans are just doing literally anything with no consequences whatsoever. It's like, what? Look, he had all three branches of government. He couldn't have closed it.
Jake Rockatansky
Well, and Joe Biden upgraded the facilities, so he, you know, he sort of primed it, I guess.
Liv Agar
Yeah.
Jake Rockatansky
But as you can see, you know, we thought 2017 was extreme. Like, this shit is fucking cooked. Like. Like, this is properly. This is an egg. This is an egg that has been left in the pan for three and a half hours. That pan is ruined. You gotta throw that shit out.
Liv Agar
Wasn't one of the executive orders an update to the regulation thing? And now it's like, 10 must be eliminated for every one edition.
Jake Rockatansky
It's like, yes, it's something crazy. It's just. It's exponentially worse. And, you know, when you read all this, it's hard not to feel like some skinimax version of the storm is beginning to take place. You know, we're not getting. We're not getting full penetration. Okay, but maybe, you know, a little bit of boob here, a little bit of, you know, a little bit of butt there. Just a little peek at the storm, if I may say. Of course, anons were hoping it would be Hillary Clinton sent to Guantanamo, but they will more than settle for 30,000 brown and black people, I'm sure. Plus, as we mentioned in our last Premium episode, Jordan Sather wondered who would occupy those cells once the initial prisoners have been deported. So I wanted to sort of take a little look at some of these executive orders and early policy from a much more vicious and unchecked Trump administration and how it's being received by conspiracy theorists. QAnon believers have always maintained that once the storm takes place, America will achieve complete and utter utopia. That the moment the cuffs are slapped across George Soros brittle wrists, all of maga's problems at home and at work will disappear. They'll be rich, and no one will stop them from saying Merry Christmas ever again. The enduring slogan of the Q movement is the Great Awakening, where they imagine millions of normies will wake up from the matrix and realize that conservative policy was the only way to save the country. And of course, once this happens, the American people will be in a complete state of harmony and prosperity, built, of course, on the bastion skulls of all those who stand in their way. Now, Trump's language recently seems to echo this as well, as he keeps telling people that America is about to enter a new golden age. Here he is at his inauguration on January 20th of this year.
Donald Trump
The golden age of America begins right now. From this day forward, our country will flourish and be respected again all over the world. We will be the envy of every nation, and we will not allow ourselves to be taken advantage of any longer. During every single day of the Trump administration, I will very simply put America first.
Jake Rockatansky
This video has me convinced that Trump is some sort of reptilian. I mean, look at his eyes. It's almost like they're blinking sideways. Sideways. He does not look good.
Liv Agar
No, he's not doing well.
Jake Rockatansky
Very tired. He looks very tired. He doesn't even look like he wants to be president. And I don't know about you guys, but I am so tired of America getting taken advantage of.
Liv Agar
Yeah, I really hate. The international system is really stacked against America.
Jake Rockatansky
I'm tired of being the underdogs, you know, I just want to win for once.
Travis View
I don't know, I feel like this, this clever trick is that, like, I don't know, like, general, like regular Americans, like, they do have this feeling like someone's, like, ripping me off and like, Trump comes in is like, no, that's the whole country. Everyone's ripping us all off. That feeling that you're feeling, that's the whole country. And then that they. He gets people to resonate with that.
Jake Rockatansky
Yeah. If You've been following QAnon research for any significant amount of time, you know that they have an absolute hard on for the Kennedys, most specifically JFK Jr. But also his dad, who's been worked into multiple aspects of QAnon lore. Where we go, one, we go all was said to have been engraved on JFK's boat, the Honey fits. This is not true. There's also the fact that conspiracy theorists noted that JFK Kay's Eternal Flame Memorial can appear to look like the letter Q. From a bird's eye view, that is, unfortunately, you can kind of see it. So when one of Trump's first executive orders was to order the declassification of all documents pertaining to the assassination of John F. Kennedy, his brother Robert Kennedy, and Dr. Martin Luther King, it gave conspiracy theorists a whole lot to look forward to. For now, the John F. Kennedy assassination, at least in my lifetime, was the most mainstream and accessible conspiracy theory until 900. So this isn't just a nod to QAnon, but to your not so out there conspiracy enthusiasts as well. The brief reads, as by the authority.
Narrator/Reader
Vested in me as President by the Constitution and the laws of the United States of America, it is hereby ordered as follows. Section 1, Policy and Purpose. More than 50 years after the assassinations of President John F. Kennedy, Senator Robert F. Kennedy, and the Reverend Dr. Martin Luther King James. The federal government has not released to the public all of its records related to those events. Their families and the American people deserve transparency and the truth. It is in the national interest to finally release all the records related to these assassinations without delay.
Travis View
I mean, yeah, like, obviously, I think. Actually, I think it would be nice if. If, like, yeah, like, I think enough time has passed that we just. It would be beneficial if the government released all the information it has on these assassinations. But, man, I'm kind of skept that that's going to be interesting or relevant or even if we squeeze the government drive everything they got, that that will change, you know, because, I don't know, I think it is part of this fantasy that somewhere within the government there's a document. If that document becomes released and people see it, it's going to rewire our whole reality. Everything's going to change once this piece of information becomes public. I don't know. I don't think that document actually exists.
Jake Rockatansky
Well, that's just the thing, right, that things have gotten so bad and so difficult for so many people in the country that all you can hope for is that one document will come out and it'll change everything. And the people that are responsible for making your life shit, for making your boss an asshole, for making your wages suck, like, it'll all change, you know, because nobody wants to look down the barrel of like 10, 20, 30 years of slow reform that they'll never actually get to enjoy, you know, they need it now. They want it now. We're getting old. We're getting sick. Like, we need the life to be good now. We need the documents released now. When I searched Twitter for JFK files to see how hyped up the general X population was about this news, the first thing that I saw was the announcement of a new meme coin called Oswald with.
Liv Agar
Sure, why not?
Jake Rockatansky
With the fucking dollar sign in front.
Liv Agar
Of it, why not?
Senator Bernie Sanders
And.
Jake Rockatansky
So the Twitter bio says this is a meme coin dedicated to the anticipated release of the JFK assassination files, where we will learn of Lee Harvey Oswald's innocence. Joined December 2024. So, new account. They've been prepping for this. Prepping for the launch.
Liv Agar
Yeah.
Jake Rockatansky
It appears that the Oswald CTO has been working tirelessly to coincide the release of this special coin alongside the declassified documents. He says. Good morning all. The countdown continues. Three days before the plan to release the JFK files will be made to the public. I read in an article. Saturday is the day. I'm amped up. Marketing plan is in the works. If you're not in yet, it's still early. Grab a bag, hold and tag along for the ride.
Liv Agar
Imagine this is how you lose your life savings.
Jake Rockatansky
Oswald Coin. And he's got a big AI picture of like, kind of like a muscly looking Oswald. Like veins popping out of his neck. He's actually in a gym. If you look behind him, there's Jim across equipment.
Travis View
I know, so. Looks so lean and vascular. Ripped. Like, if Oswald could like bust out like 50 push ups, no problem. This is what he would look like, this Oswald.
Jake Rockatansky
You wouldn't want. He wouldn't need a gun. Okay. He could walk over to the President's car and twist his neck off, you know? Another. Another tweet from the CTO of Oswald Coin. That was so stupid. I just. All right. He says, well, today has been the most exhausting day for me so far as a ct. But forward we go. Things are all falling into place and surely we all know our destination. Thank you to everyone who has been helpful in the dollar sign Oswald community. This is still only the beginning. There is so much more to come. In less than three days, things are going even more green. Good night, all. Here's an AI version of Trump and Oswald shaking hands.
Liv Agar
Sure, why not? I love the idea that this guy, people ask him what he does and he's like, I'm a cto.
Jake Rockatansky
Yeah. And they're like, oh, cool. Like, where at? And he's like, have you heard of Oswald Coin? It's a special coin to commemorate the release of the JFK files.
Liv Agar
That does feel like a conversation with your Uber sort of thing.
Jake Rockatansky
Yeah, it really. It really does. Absolutely. Absolutely. And then they stop paying attention to the road and start showing you YouTube videos on their phone. This is so funny to me, by the way. And you know what, America, we've been doing this like. I remember, like when I was a kid growing up seeing commercials for like commemorative coins for special shit all the time on T. Now there's just like no actual coin. It's just like a series of numbers.
Liv Agar
Yeah, it's perfectly American because it's those. But it can rip you off.
Jake Rockatansky
Yeah, totally. You know, it's not enough to have conspiracy theories by themselves anymore, it seems instead, every theory must be accompanied by a coin. Ain't life grand? And you too can own a commemorative piece of the blockchain history when a D class arrives and we can know for certain that George Bush Sr. Ordered the hit on jr. I do have a short clip of Trump signing the executive order promising his supporters that everything will be revealed. Sir, we have an executive order ordering the declassification of files relating to the assassinations of President John F. Kennedy, Senator Robert F. Kennedy, and Reverend Dr. Martin.
Donald Trump
Luther King Jr. That's a big one, huh? A lot of people are waiting for this wrong. For years, for decades. And everything will be revealed. Okay, give that to RFK Jr.
Jake Rockatansky
Yes, sir.
Donald Trump
Okay. Okay. Thank you very much, Mr. President.
Liv Agar
The thing he's giving to RFK Jr. For reference is the map, massive, like, felt marker that Trump signs everything with, I'm sure is bleeding over horrendously to the other side. And he.
Jake Rockatansky
He thinks about it for a second. He puts the pen down, and then he has the thought you could see him get the idea.
Narrator/Reader
And he goes, yeah, give that to rfk, my new.
Jake Rockatansky
My new head of health or whatever the fuck he is. What's. What's RFK Jr going to be?
Travis View
Yeah. Health and Human Services. Yep.
Jake Rockatansky
Health and Human Services. Here. Here's the pen. Here's the pen that reveals who really killed your fucking uncle. Right? Is his uncle, yeah.
Travis View
Uncle.
Jake Rockatansky
Yeah. In a move that feels more closely aligned with what QAnon believers might have envisioned as the storm on January 31, Acting Attorney General Emil Bove sent an email to FBI leadership with the subject line termination. It basically called for the firings of any prosecutors involved in the investigations into Trump, as well as thousands of agents who worked on January 6th or adjacent cases. And this is after forcing at least six top FBI officials to either resign or be fired. In the email, Bove writes, the FBI.
Travis View
Including the Bureau's prior leadership, actively participate in what President Trump appropriately described as, quote, a grave national injuries justice that has been perpetuated on the American people over the last four years with respect to events that occurred at or near the United states Capitol on January 6, 2021.
Jake Rockatansky
In addition, 12 prosecutors who worked on January six cases were escorted out of the Washington field office. So for a conspiracy theory that constantly fantasizes about the deep state being led away in cuffs, this is the closest I feel like we've gotten so far. And a huge perch for like, this feels significant, wouldn't you say?
Liv Agar
I didn't even know they could do that. I guess they can. No one's stopping them.
Travis View
Yeah.
Jake Rockatansky
Yeah. Nobody's stopping them. Well, the guy.
Travis View
You'll.
Jake Rockatansky
We'll see. You'll see. The guy gave the guy signed over the list of all the agents. He just did it.
Travis View
I mean, I'm surprised that, like, just generally, like, Congress is standing for this because, like. Well, no, this was like an event that forced you and your colleagues to flee the building you were working from. And then, you know, there was. There was obviously an effort, unsurprisingly, to prosecute the people who did it. And I mean, you're now. Now those people are supposed to be. Even if you're operating from. Even if you only give a shit about yourself and other members of Congress, don't you think this would be an outrage? But no, I guess they're okay with it.
Liv Agar
Yeah.
Jake Rockatansky
If the field office is in Washington, you should stand outside and, like, get arrested by not letting police officers in the door. You know what I mean? Like. Like at least something. Make some kind of statement that, you know, you're upset about this. It would be nice to see any kind of real resistance as opposed to just fucking posting on Twitt against all of this shit. And, of course, you know, QAnon followers on X are baking the shit out of this. They're very happy. I've included a tweet from the Storm Redux, which is a popular QAnon account that's got over 100,000 followers. And their tweet reads, want to know.
Unidentified Guest
Why there was mass panic in D.C. over the Purge at the FBI? This clip of Devin Nunes from 2023 shed some light on the topic. Nunes explains that the bad guys at the FBI are compartmentalized, so they are able to implement their agenda with nobody el knowing about it. Nunes, Cash, Trump and team know exactly who these people are and are promptly removing them. Cutting the head off the snake.
Jake Rockatansky
So, yeah, well, they're cutting the head off the snake of anybody that, you know, anybody that was involved in potentially getting to the bottom and charging Trump with. With, you know, the numerous crimes that he's been charged with.
Liv Agar
It's not a LARP anymore. They're just kind of describing things that are actually happening. Like Chrissy Teigen, this time is going to be pictured with, like, an ankle monitor.
Jake Rockatansky
Yeah.
Narrator/Reader
Oh, my Lord, it's gonna be so bad. So bad.
Liv Agar
This hasn't been a month yet. It's not even been a month.
Jake Rockatansky
I know, I know. It's like, you know, as you get older, you kind of, like, wish time would slow down a little bit. And I feel like I've. I got my wish, but in the worst way possible.
Liv Agar
Monkey's paw curls. Yeah.
Jake Rockatansky
Yeah. So the acting FBI director, Brian Driscoll, has stated that the number of agents oh, by the way, this is so funny. I read. So this guy wasn't supposed to be the acting director. It was supposed to be a different guy. But in the brief that the Trump administration put out naming the, you know, the acting FBI director, they switched the two names of the guys, and instead of, like, correcting it, this guy Brian ends up being, like, the acting FBI director. He looks like he's my age. He just looks like some, like, young guy who's like, what the fuck?
Travis View
I know. I wish I was ruled by people who were actually more. More competent. I mean, it's just embarrassing that, like, I just wish these people were malicious and sort of, like, able to fix typos and documents. Is that too much to ask?
Jake Rockatansky
Absolutely, Travis. That is far too much to ask. And I'm sending you to Guantanamo. So Acting FBI Director Brian Driscoll has stated that the number of agents who have touched Jan6 and Trump cases is in the thousands, maybe even close to 6,000. And also that there's no automated way to gather this data, so they have to get a bunch of employees to go and do it by hand. Can you imagine how pissed off you would be if you had to go through every single case file and find out, like, how many thousands of employees, like, had to do anything with a certain, you know, certain case? Driscoll did ultimately comply with the order, but he sent a memo to all employees that no personal information was provided, only employee ID numbers. FBI agents have already filed a class action lawsuit against the Department of Justice, claiming that they were denied due process and terminated unfair fairly. One funny thing that I. That I found is that a couple of agents have noted that they didn't get to pick their assignments and didn't necessarily agree with many of the cases brought against the people that stormed the Capitol on January6.
Liv Agar
It really is just, like, pure petty spite.
Jake Rockatansky
Yeah, and they also said that, like, the Bureau is by and large conservative, but has no say in what cases they were assigned to. And this even seems to line up with a tweet posted by a J. Sixer who voiced support for the agent assigned to his case. So, Liv, will you read this from Samuel Fontanes.
Liv Agar
I'm a J6 here, and my FBI agent handled everything with a professionalism and respect while she was following orders. She never treated me unfairly or out of line. It was clear she recognized the situation was unnecessarily escalated. Having dealt with serious federal criminals in the past, she approached my case as though it was minor by comparison. Something that shouldn't have even been on her radar. Considering her experience with hardened offenders, she shouldn't have to lose her job. Job over it.
Travis View
Wow, that's.
Liv Agar
This is the deep state.
Jake Rockatansky
What the fucking world are we living in?
Liv Agar
Yeah, these are the checks and balances, I guess.
Jake Rockatansky
It's so bizarre. And can you imagine if you're like a Trump supporting FBI agent and you're pissed off that you have to fucking, you know, send, you know, work on a case that sends like, you know, some rioter to prison for two to four years or whatever, you're like, I don't know, this is fucking fucked. Only to like, be like, wait, I'm going to get fired because of this. Like, I didn't even want to work on this case. Like, I didn't want anything to do with this. Like, I didn't have any choice.
Liv Agar
Fascists are good at rewarding their followers with what they deserve, historically.
Travis View
It's also, I mean, the fact that they're punishing people who are simply, you know, assigned. These cases may serve to basically send a message that, like, you know, it's possible even if you're just, just doing your job, even if you are, you know, following the letter of the law, you may be sacked for doing something that hurts or embarrasses Trump or any of his more fervent supporters.
Liv Agar
Right.
Travis View
I mean, it's just a big signal to be like, no, stay away from these is like, even if they did break the law because you will be targeted and, and ran out.
Jake Rockatansky
Now, this next move from Trump, I think, is going to satisfy a lot of the old heads, you know, guys around during the early Spygate days, because it involves high up intelligence officials who they claim turned the CIA woke, quote, unquote. So Trump has decided to revoke the security clearances of 50 former intelligence officials. This action is a direct response to those who signed a letter back in 2020 claiming that the Hunter Biden laptop saga had all the hallmarks of a r Russian disinformation campaign. Now, the list of those affected includes some big names like former CIA Director John Brennan and former Director of National Intelligence James Clapper. Trump's executive order accuses these officials of weaponizing their positions to manipulate the political process and undermine democratic institutions. And he's sort of like framing this as a necessary step to restore trust in the intelligence community. But he's clearly just pissed off that no one in any of these agencies tried to cover for him and instead actively spoke out against him and potential led investigations into him and his campaign. So here's the opening paragraphs from that executive order. And you can tell he's being so petty.
Narrator/Reader
By the authority vested in me as President by the Constitution and the laws of the United States of America, it is hereby ordered. Section one, purpose. In the closing weeks of the 2020 presidential campaign, at least 51 former intelligence officials coordinated with the Biden campaign to issue a letter discrediting the reporting that President Joseph R. Biden's son had abandoned his LAPT at a computer repair business. Signatories of the letter falsely suggested that the news story was part of a Russian disinformation campaign.
Jake Rockatansky
I think the word abandoned in that is so funny that he abandoned his laptop. It's like, wasn't even loyal to his computer.
Narrator/Reader
His MacBook, for so many years, the MacBook, its camera had watched him do horrible things, do so many drugs, hold lots of firearms. And he. What did he do?
Jake Rockatansky
He abandoned.
Travis View
I mean, yeah, honestly, this, this one, I'm like, this one works me up. The least I have to say, because I do, I do remember that letter. I thought it was strange at the time the way it was. They said, like, oh, it has the hallmarks of a Russian disinformation campaign. It's like, well, what do you mean it has the hallmarks? Is it or is it not? And it's like, I don't know, it's very, that whole thing is very frustrating. But, yeah, I don't, whatever, I'm sure they'll move on. They're going to get wealthy consulting positions. They'll all be fine.
Jake Rockatansky
Yeah, they'll sign, they'll sign with caa. It'll, It'll be fine. They'll, they'll all be fine. They just don't have access to their special security. There's their clearances, which, you know, very valuable if you're, you know, writing books, doing talk shows, all that stuff. But, you know, I'm sure they'll be okay. And now for my final, my final executive order. President Trump has announced to reopen sections of Guantanamo Bay to house migrants, aiming to detain up to 30,000 individuals living, quote, unquote, illegally in the United States. Now, this decision was made during the signing of the Lake and Riley act, which was a law named after a slain Georgia nursing student that mandates the detention and potential deportation of unauthorized immigrants accused of theft or violent crimes. Trump framed this as a necessary step to enhance national security.
Donald Trump
Today, I'm also signing an executive order order to instruct the Departments of Defense and Homeland Security to begin preparing the 30,000 person migrant facility At Guantanamo Bay. Most people don't even know about it. We have 30,000 beds in Guantanamo to detain the worst criminal illegal aliens threatening the American people. Some of them are so bad, we don't even trust the countries to hold them because we don't want them coming back. So we're going to send them out to Guantanamo. This will double our capacity immediately. Right? And tough. That's a tough. That's a tough place to get out of. Today's signings bring us one step closer to eradicating the scourge of migrant crime in our communities once and for all. And it was just a purely. It's just an unforced error that we even have to be doing this now. We need Congress to provide full funding for the complete and total restoration of our sovereign borders, as well as financial support to remove record numbers of illegal aliens.
Liv Agar
And this is. This is people who are accused of a crime, not who have been successfully tried. So it's just extralegal removing of people into basically a black site.
Jake Rockatansky
Yeah, exactly. That's not even in the country. It's in Cuba. And it's not just immigrants either. You know, they're going to use it for American criminals as well. I didn't include this, but they just, you know, announced this terrifying deal with El Salvador who's like, basically like, oh, yeah, like, for a small fee, like, we will house, like, anybody you deport and whatever American criminals you want. And like, the place that they're talking about in El Salvador is like. Is like multiple prisons within a prison. I watched like, a small video. It literally looks like 20, like, airplane hangers. It looks like. You know what it looks like? It looks like the place where they keep all of the. The players in Squid game. It's like beds stacked on top of one another, no mattresses, just like steel. Like, it looks l. Horrifying. And like, I mean, they're just going to put. It's just. It feels like slave labor. Like, it feels like they're just going to put these people in work camps. It's fucking horrifying. And yet it's like, it's so far from what the QAnon, you know, QAnon conspiracy theorists would love, right? That, like, oh, they're sending all the people I don't like to Guantanamo Bay. But it's actually like, so much worse. Like, I would rather, like, one Hillary Clinton go to Guantanamo Bay obey than like, 30,000 people who are just trying to like, make it to the United States to, like, have some kind of chance. Of, like, a better life for themselves and their families.
Travis View
I mean, yeah, this is. This is really sick. It almost feel. Almost feels like a part of a Trumpian negotiation because, like, like, you know, people. People heard about this, like, you know, fucking Gitmo Camp X Ray shit and be like, oh, yeah, it's this. This military black site where people are detained indefinitely without trial. And, and they do, like, real sick, sort of like, like, sensory deprivation. And the conditions are so horrible that the. That the inmates there go on, like, long hunger strikes so that they're force fed. And, you know, the reaction should be like, oh, that's. That's really bad. We should probably close that down and, like, you know, not have that place anymore. But other people go. It's like, who can we send there? Can we send Hillary Clinton there? Like, no, no, no, not. Not Hillary Clinton. We don't prosecute our elites. And, like, even if. Even if we did, she wouldn't be going there. Okay, hello. How about migrants? All right, fucking deal. We'll have migrants accused of a crime. It's really. It's really, really. It's just that they want. They hear this. This horrible place and they. I don't know, there's, like, people want to send somebody there.
Jake Rockatansky
Yeah, here's how meaningless, like, your little conspiracy theory is. Hillary Clinton is sitting behind Trump at the inauguration, clapping. She's not in prison. She doesn't have an ankle monitor. She's not getting sent to Guantanamo. She's at the fucking inauguration clapping when he says shit. That's. They're all. None of the people that you want to see punished are ever going to be punished. Instead, it's going to be the most vulnerable in our society, and like Travis said, they're going to be subjected to, like, the worst conditions. Ugh. It is so fucking terrifying. So disgusting. I feel so helpless in a lot of ways. Uh, it's good to do the show. It's good to do the show and talk about it because I kind of get it out of my system and I don't have to spend the rest of my day, like, ugh, just talking and discussing and thinking about how horrible, like, everything is. And like Liv said, it's only fucking January.
Travis View
That's February.
Jake Rockatansky
Ah, February. See, I don't even know what. I don't even know what month it is, so. The announcement, of course, has sparked significant concern and criticism from human rights groups and international observers. Critics argue that Guantanamo Bay, historically used to house terrorism suspects, is not equipped to handle such a large number of people and that conditions could become inhuman. Cuban officials have also condemned the decision, calling it a violation of international law and an affront to human dignity. Despite the backlash, Trump's administration is moving forward with the plan. And they have already. I read last night as I was going to bed, they have already sent a plane of migrants over to Guantanamo Bay. So it is. It is really happening, and, you know, not even the way that I think maybe QAnon people would have hoped. What do you guys say?
Liv Agar
I mean, they want to see people punished, and they will identify any sort of suffering that Trump has committed as an extension of their own interest. The problem is just that their lives will continue to be shit. Like the storm never happens, and they never get their world, you know, where everything. It's a utopia. There's, you know, cancer is permanent, completely cured, all of this shit. Their lives will always suck and, in fact, will probably get much worse, especially if we see these tariffs go through, which I still think they will.
Jake Rockatansky
Yeah.
Liv Agar
I don't think Trump is going to find out that all of the concessions that Canada and Mexico have offered have already things they're going to be doing. And he's going to be mad and he's going to feel weak.
Jake Rockatansky
Yeah. He's going to feel. Feel duped.
Liv Agar
Yeah. And so they're going to, I think, could go through with them, at the very least. The Canadian ones, ironically, I think they are more likely than the Mexican ones, because Trump's real demand to Canada was to be annexed, basically. Like, there's. There's just no actual demand. It's like, yeah, if you're in the country, you won't have to pay tariffs at all. So, I mean, yeah, there's no. No one at the wheel right now. They're really doing whatever they want, and these democratic institutions that were supposed to stop him aren't. So, you know, that's the world we live in. It's the world we live in for at least the next world. Four years live.
Jake Rockatansky
Do you think that Canada will be annexed and that we will all be citizens of the same country one day soon?
Liv Agar
I think if it is, I don't know if I will be a citizen of the country. I don't know.
Jake Rockatansky
Where will you be going?
Liv Agar
I. I'll be. We'll be in this weird limbo thing with no political representation because we're too woke.
Jake Rockatansky
What's going on with Trudeau? Is he, like, step, what's. What's the deal with all that? Is he, like, stepping down, or is there some sort of, like, interim government what's the happening there?
Liv Agar
It's true to. Over. He. He stepped down about a month or so ago, and there's a leadership race right now with mainly Christia Freeland and Mark Carney are the two Liberal candidates. They're both like charisma, black hole, uninteresting. But. But Carney seems to be winning and he has a fairly popular approval rating among people. He's. He used to be the. A pro business governor of the bank of Canada in Britain. And it's very, very bad for the Canadian conservatives right now because they base all of their identity around Trump and American conservatism. And now everyone hates America. There's footage of like, I think it's Edmonton Oilers fans, like, in Alberta booing or. No, it was the Calgary Flames. It was in Calgary booing the American anthem at a hockey game. That's like, unheard of. The level of hatred. It's like Trump has permanently ruined, or at least for the next couple decades, honestly ruined that relationship Canadians are generally fond of. I think America, our economy depends upon you guys. Even if he doesn't do the terrorists, sheriffs, it's like such an incredibly, you know, he's destroying the relationships with his closest allies. It's very irrational.
Jake Rockatansky
Yeah, his approval ratings are down. Like, and, you know, you look at this, this quote from this, this J6 or somebody who, you know, should be like, you know, so grateful to Trump for, you know, they're. They're pardoned.
Liv Agar
They.
Jake Rockatansky
They no longer have to identify as. As a felon or a criminal or anything like that. If they were serving jail time, they got out. And he's like, please don't fire my FBI agent. Like, she, she didn't do anything wrong. She was, like, very cool with me. And she loves you. Like, it even seems like amongst the people who wanted him the most or who would be most loyal, they're kind of like, oh, man, I don't know. It's just. I don't know. But hard to say.
Liv Agar
We're in the honeymoon period and his approval is still negative. Like, we're getting at the very least Bush 2008 numbers. Like that is. Yeah, like, that is the one consolation for this, I guess, especially honestly, I think they could, if Trump was smart economically and he somehow did, you know, make sure inflation didn't happen and eggs weren't doubling in price right now, I think people probably would be tolerating it. They don't actually care if, you know, Trump puts, like, every trans person in a internment camp or whatever. Like, like people don't actually care that much about that if their personal lives are doing well, but they're too stupid to do that. They're too irrational. They have to do all these insane tariffs. Like, Trump is obsessed with William McKinley and, like, bringing back tariffs as the primary mechanism of, like, filling the Treasury. Like, he wants to do that, that' he's doing these things. It's not, like, to gain leverage to negotiate. He wants the tariffs. He wants to go back to, like, mercantilism. And there's no one stopping him. There's no, no one is driving right now. No one's at the wheel.
Jake Rockatansky
It's so funny because, like, you know, he talks about this Golden Age and, like, you know, of course this is like, references back to the Gilded Age. But, like, what happened in the Gilded Age was essentially, is that like all of these, like, you know, British, you know, these, like, foreign oligarchs basically, like, saw that America's economy was doing well and they were like, well, well, well. Like, we can step in and get a fucking big piece of that. So it's just like. Yeah, it's so funny. It's like the poor people think that, like, the Golden Age is, like, meant for them, you know, but it's. It's not at all. It's gonna be for the same kind of people that they actually hate. You know, they haven't been able to yet separate that, like, Clinton and Trump are part of the same, you know, are part of the same economical class.
Liv Agar
It's ironic because tariffs in that period, mainly a negative effect on the elite who bought things from outside the country. The economy is so integrated with the world economy now that tariffs will now mainly affect poor people. So there's an ironic inverse there. But, I mean, I guess that's really the only positive note you could think about is that despite how much people view Democrats as useless, there is some resistance here that is going to form. People are not going to be happy and already aren't. And again, we're only a month in. Are already not happy with him. He doesn't. He doesn't really get a honeymoon phase. And then there's four years of him just doing whatever.
Jake Rockatansky
Look, he's also an old guy. He's gotta get in and out of a helicopter. It could be raining. Those steps could be wet is all I'm saying. We don't know for sure if it's going to be a full four years. And I, for one, pledge my allegiance to President Vance. Oh, God, please don't. Please don't. Hurt me, please don't hurt me. Hurt my friends. And, yeah, great stuff. We're having a lot of fun doing the show. Everybody's not stressed, and everybody, you know, we're, we're pretty happy overall. Travis, final thoughts?
Travis View
I mean, you know, I feel like there was a, you know, I talked about this on Blue Sky a little bit, but, like, people are asking the questions like, well, is that allowed or is that legal? And I feel like, you know, it's like, well, that's, that's really the, the wrong question because, you know, laws are just words decided via public ceremony, and what's allowed is whatever you can do if nothing stops you. So people are just. The Trump administration is trying to figure out what they can do without anyone stopping them. And this is something that also has historical precedent. Talking about, like, like Andrew Jackson, like, he. There was a 1832, there was a Supreme Court ruling that basically affirmed that Native American nations were independent and sovereign. Therefore, you know, like, like state laws didn't apply to them. But like, Andrew Jackson, like, said no, he ignored that and he pursued a policy of Native American displacement. Anyway, he just said, I'm not gonna do that. It's like, well, can the president just ignore the Supreme Court? Well, yeah, if no one stops them, they absolutely can. We're another period in which executive power is stretching its arms, trying to see how far it can reach, trying to discover whether can get away with. And, you know, I guess we're all going to find out. We're all going to see if there is any limit to their reach or, you know, or not. So, yeah, we're just. Yeah. It's a very, very interesting, tumultuous time.
Jake Rockatansky
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Liv Agar
I have a Twitch stream where I talk about politics, Twitch TV, Laveagar, and a newsletter@levegar.com Travis.
Jake Rockatansky
Where can people find more of your work?
Travis View
Well, I'm on Blue Sky. I've been trying to avoid Twitter. Twitter. I still go on there. I still check it pretty much every day. Mostly retweet. But my, my posts are mostly on Blue sky nowadays.
Jake Rockatansky
All right. And I am getting pretty good at Call of Duty. My wife and I have been playing prop hunt a lot we've been hiding as barrels bags tool cabinets all sorts of things trying to hide from the hunters when they discover us and we are you can find us there uh we will be be under the bridge disguised as a cone listener until next week. May the deep dish bless you and keep you.
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Date: February 8, 2025
Hosts: Jake Rockatansky, Travis View, Liv Agar
Episode Theme:
An in-depth, irreverent breakdown of Donald Trump’s fever-pitched second-term administration, focusing on the QAnon-overtoned cabinet picks, explosive executive orders, the collapse of institutional guardrails, Musk’s shadow governance, and the ways right-wing conspiracy theories have been mainstreamed into the highest echelons of power.
The hosts grapple with the accelerating authoritarian shift of the new Trump administration, where QAnon-influenced appointees, aggressive executive orders, and “crime season” politics collide. Major attention is given to the normalization of conspiracism inside the White House, Elon Musk’s unaccountable digital bureaucracy, and the failures of both political opposition and institutional checks.
- Main Point:
Trump’s cabinet selection process is now openly influenced by, or catering to, QAnon ideology and adjacent conspiracy thinking.
- Details:
Memorable Quote:
"Trump is signing orders like a man shoveling McNuggets into his mouth on the evening before he goes to the electric chair."
— Jake Rockatansky ([00:32])
- Evasive Denials:
Patel, pressed by Senator Chuck Grassley (himself referenced in Q drops), deflects and refuses to fully denounce QAnon:
“No, Senator, in fact, I have publicly, including in the interviews provided to this committee, rejected outright QAnon baseless conspiracy theories—or any other baseless conspiracy theories. They must be addressed head on with the truth. And I will continue to do that.”
— Kash Patel ([06:54])
Hosts note the lawyerly response: he “can’t even say no”—instead, dances around outright denouncement.
Patel denies knowing Stu Peters (neo-Nazi podcaster) despite having appeared on his podcast eight times—an unbelievable claim, as hosts point out with sarcasm ([09:35]).
Lies about his involvement in the “Justice for All” song featuring Trump and J6 prisoners, despite previous public admissions ([11:30]–[12:07]).
- Insight:
Bernie Sanders calls out RFK Jr. for his organization’s sale of anti-vax baby clothes, challenging RFK Jr.’s claim of being “pro-vaccine.”
"Now that you are pro vaccine, that you're going to have your organization take these products off the market?"
— Bernie Sanders ([19:13])
"Senator, I have no power over that organization."
— RFK Jr. ([20:02])
Hosts praise Bernie as the only Democrat with clear principles and effective messaging, contrasting with a broadly ineffective opposition.
"Because the OGE team is rapidly shutting down these illegal payments."
— Elon Musk ([25:52])
"Any threats, confrontations or other actions in any way that impact their work may break numerous laws... We will pursue any and all legal action against anyone who impedes your work or threatens your people."
— US Attorney Ed Martin ([30:03])
- Commentary:
- New Orders Include:
- Observations:
“The golden age of America begins right now. From this day forward, our country will flourish and be respected again all over the world... I will very simply put America first.”
— Donald Trump ([36:46])
- Host Reaction:
“It’s not a LARP anymore. They’re just kind of describing things that are actually happening.”
— Liv Agar ([48:55])
- Declassifying JFK Files and QAnon Symbolism
“It is part of this fantasy that somewhere within the government there’s a document… once this piece of information becomes public, it’s gonna rewire our whole reality. Everything’s going to change.”
— Travis View ([39:37])
- Crypto and Conspiracies Collide
Mass firing of FBI agents and prosecutors is undertaken—especially those involved in J6 or Trump investigations.
Unprecedented direct political intervention in federal law enforcement, with the stated goal of punishing enemies and rewarding friends.
“12 prosecutors who worked on January six cases were escorted out of the Washington field office. So for a conspiracy theory that constantly fantasizes about the deep state being led away in cuffs, this is the closest I feel like we’ve gotten so far.”
— Jake Rockatansky ([46:43])
Even QAnon’s “enemies” express confusion—the system is so chaotic that its own police force is unclear who’s being punished and why.
“Can you imagine if you’re like a Trump-supporting FBI agent and you’re pissed off that you have to fucking, you know, send, you know, work on a case that sends like, you know, some rioter to prison… Only to, like, be like, wait, I’m going to get fired because of this…?”
— Jake Rockatansky ([52:06])
Security clearances revoked from “deep state” intelligence officials—petty reprisal framed as restoring national integrity ([53:07]–[55:33]).
Trump announces plan to detain up to 30,000 migrants at Guantanamo Bay, under the new Lake and Riley Act, including people merely accused (not convicted) of crime.
“We have 30,000 beds in Guantanamo to detain the worst criminal illegal aliens threatening the American people. Some of them are so bad, we don’t even trust the countries to hold them... So we’re going to send them out to Guantanamo.”
— Donald Trump ([56:25])
Hosts detail how this is even more monstrous than QAnon predicted; the most vulnerable are being targeted while the rich and powerful remain untouched.
“Hillary Clinton is sitting behind Trump at the inauguration, clapping. She’s not in prison. She doesn’t have an ankle monitor. She’s not getting sent to Guantanamo. She’s at the fucking inauguration clapping when he says shit.”
— Jake Rockatansky ([59:53])
Democrats and liberal institutions are paralyzed, with Biden’s legacy poisoning their credibility further.
Forecasts of economic disaster (tariffs, global isolation) are discussed and hosts wonder whether any resistance will actually emerge.
Wry reminder that previous presidencies, too, ignored checks when convenient—referencing Andrew Jackson’s flouting of the (then) Supreme Court.
“Laws are just words decided via public ceremony, and what’s allowed is whatever you can do if nothing stops you.”
— Travis View ([67:31])
“If you're hearing this, well done. You found a way to connect to the Internet. Welcome to the qaa podcast, episode 310 confirming Trump's quabinate with Q's… With cues to be queer.”
— Jake Rockatansky ([00:32])
“They should be disqualified.”
— Liv Agar ([04:19])
“It’s hard not to feel like some Skinemax version of the storm is beginning to take place. You know, we’re not getting full penetration, but maybe, you know, a little bit of boob here, a little bit of butt there. Just a little peek at the storm, if I may say.”
— Jake Rockatansky ([35:05])
“Turns out the Constitution just isn't real. Like, it just doesn't matter. All these, you know, centuries of democratic institutions, it's just, yeah, what are you going to do about it? And I guess so far the answer is nothing.”
— Liv Agar ([25:52])
“It's not a LARP anymore. They're just kind of describing things that are actually happening.”
— Liv Agar ([48:55])
“The only rule during crime season is that you can do whatever you can get away with.”
— Travis View ([30:16])
The episode is darkly comic, relentlessly irreverent, and deeply informed. The hosts blend cutting analysis, gallows humor, and exasperation to document a reality where the “cracks in consensus reality” have widened into open pits—QAnon has become policy, billionaires rule by fiat, and all guardrails are gone. The country is reaping the bloody harvest of years of conspiratorial thinking and institutional neglect, while the old predictions (“it’ll never get that bad”) have proven fatally naïve.
For those who haven’t listened:
This episode is essential for understanding how American conspiracism has achieved a level of mainstream power that once seemed impossible, what that means for governance, and why the opposition is hopelessly outmatched. It also provides a warning (delivered with wit and despair in equal measure) about the dangers of unchecked executive power and unaccountable, shadowy technocratic rule.