Podcast Summary: Question Everything
Episode: Call 202-225-3501 To Fix The Internet
Host: Brian Reed
Guest: Rep. Jake Auchincloss
Date: November 25, 2025
Overview
This episode of Question Everything tackles the heated debate over Section 230—the pivotal law that has shaped internet accountability since 1996. Host Brian Reed sits down with Rep. Jake Auchincloss (D-MA), one of the few lawmakers pushing for reform, to discuss why and how listeners can take tangible action right now to influence upcoming legislation focusing on children’s online safety. The episode centers on the urgent call to have Section 230 reform considered at an imminent Congressional hearing, providing listeners with concrete steps to make their voices heard.
Key Discussion Points & Insights
1. Why Section 230 Matters (01:32–02:47)
- Background for New Listeners: Brian Reed summarizes the root issue: Section 230 grants internet platforms special immunity from legal responsibility for third-party content, creating a unique landscape with little accountability.
- Journalism's Role: Reed frames the reform as a journalistic mission, stemming from the podcast’s aim to counteract misinformation and restore trust.
2. Meet the Reform Advocate—Rep. Jake Auchincloss (00:29–01:17, 02:48–03:08)
- About Auchincloss:
- Democratic Congressman from near Boston; ex-Marine; parent of three young children.
- Actively promoting a Section 230 reform bill with a focus on protecting kids online.
- The Challenge:
- “It's difficult for me to convey how hard that is, how ferociously the tech lobby lobby's against them.” — Rep. Auchincloss (01:17)
3. Actionable Listener Call to Action (02:48–04:51)
- Urgency:
- Upcoming Energy and Commerce Committee hearing addressing kids’ online safety, algorithms, and privacy.
- Auchincloss’s Section 230 proposal isn’t on the agenda yet.
- Specific Steps for Listeners:
- Call Congressman Brett Guthrie (R-KY), Chair of the committee, at 202-225-3501.
- “If every single one of your listeners would call the office of Congressman Brett Guthrie of Kentucky and say that they want Section 230 reform, that would help a lot.” — Rep. Auchincloss (02:48)
- Reed repeats the ask multiple times for emphasis, providing details and reiterating urgency.
4. Inside the Legislative Process (04:02–04:35)
- Guthrie’s Role:
- Committee chairs have near-unilateral authority over hearing agendas.
- “The chairman of a committee, almost unilaterally...can decide the composition of a legislative hearing and a legislative markup.” — Rep. Auchincloss (04:26)
- Auchincloss’s Approach:
- Focuses on gradually limiting Section 230, starting with clear harms like deepfakes, revenge porn, and cyberstalking, with a bipartisan bill called the Intimate Privacy Protection Act.
5. The Bill: Intimate Privacy Protection Act (05:00–06:05)
- What It Does:
- Does not repeal Section 230 outright.
- Aims to remove immunity for platforms failing to protect against deepfakes, revenge porn, and cyberstalking.
- “If passed as is, it would require platforms to show a duty of care to protect people from these harms. And if they didn't, they'd lose the immunity of Section 230.” — Brian Reed (05:00)
- Bipartisan Support:
- Backed by two Republican co-sponsors; signal of a rare cross-party consensus.
6. Why Now?—The New Technology Concern (06:05–06:31)
- AI & Deepfakes:
- “We need to build bipartisan momentum to make changes. And I think focusing on a new technology, AI and the ability to do deep fakes, which everybody understands, like, whoa, this is different.” — Rep. Auchincloss (06:05)
- The public’s broad recognition of AI risks presents a unique legislative opportunity.
7. Personal Motivations & Parental Urgency (06:31–08:04)
- Parenting & Policy:
- Auchincloss describes how becoming a parent and learning about child brain development galvanized his concern.
- “As a dad, I feel like I'm in a race against time here. I got a couple more years before these things swamp my kids and I feel powerless against these tech companies. But then as a member of Congress...I don't feel powerless.” — Rep. Auchincloss (07:20)
- Host Relatability:
- Reed shares his own experience as a parent managing screen time and online exposure.
8. Final Call & How to Stay Involved (08:04–08:56)
- Reed's Closing Message:
- Encourages even the undecided to call for a debate, not just a decision.
- “Even if you haven't decided fully where you stand on section 230 yet...you might still think this is at least worth a debate in Congress, then that's worth a call too.” — Brian Reed (08:04)
- Further Engagement:
- Listeners are directed to the show’s Substack (everything.substack.com) for the full hour-long interview and more resources.
Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments
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On the Hill’s Reluctance:
“It’s difficult for me to convey how hard that is, how ferociously the tech lobby lobby’s against them.”
— Rep. Jake Auchincloss, (01:17) -
The Big Ask:
“If every single one of your listeners would call the office of Congressman Brett Guthrie of Kentucky and say that they want Section 230 reform, that would help a lot.”
— Rep. Jake Auchincloss, (02:48) -
Congressional Power Dynamics:
“The chairman of a committee, almost unilaterally...can decide the composition of a legislative hearing and a legislative markup.”
— Rep. Jake Auchincloss, (04:26) -
AI as Catalyst:
“The idea that you can just all of a sudden generate totally synthetic, high quality, seemingly real videos, pictures, voice, et cetera, you're in a whole new world.”
— Rep. Jake Auchincloss, (06:05) -
A Parent’s Perspective:
“As a dad, I feel like I'm in a race against time here. ...I feel powerless against these tech companies. But then as a member of Congress...I don't feel powerless.”
— Rep. Jake Auchincloss, (07:20)
Key Timestamps
- 00:29: Introduction of Rep. Jake Auchincloss & the struggle to engage lawmakers
- 01:17: Auchincloss details lobbyist opposition
- 02:48: Representative gives concrete action—call Brett Guthrie
- 03:08: Why Guthrie, what the hearing will address
- 04:26: Committee chair authority over agenda
- 05:00: Reed explains the Intimate Privacy Protection Act
- 06:05: Auchincloss frames AI as a turning point for reform
- 07:20: Auchincloss and Reed share their parenting concerns
- 08:04: Final encouragement to take action and stay informed
Summary
In this urgent episode, Question Everything moves from diagnosing issues with internet accountability to giving listeners a direct opportunity to shape law. Rep. Auchincloss and Brian Reed explain the stakes, lay out concrete actions, and personalize the issue for American families threatened by unchecked tech power. The episode closes with a strong encouragement for active civic engagement and further exploration via the podcast’s newsletter.
