
We first aired this episode in 2012, but at the show we’ve been thinking a lot about resilience and repair so we wanted to play it for you again today. It’s about a man who experienced maybe one of the most chilling traumas… twice. But then, it leads us to a story of generational repair. On the morning of August 6th, 1945, Tsutomu Yamaguchi was in Hiroshima on a work trip. He was walking to the office when the first atomic bomb was dropped about a mile away. He survived, and eventually managed to get himself onto a train back to his hometown... Nagasaki. The very next morning, as he tried to convince his boss that a single bomb could destroy a whole city, the second bomb dropped. Author Sam Kean tells Jad and Robert the incredible story of what happened to Tsutomu, explains how gamma rays shred DNA, and helps us understand how Tsutomu sidestepped a thousand year curse.Signup for our newsletter!! It includes short essays, recommendations, and details about other ways to interact w...
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Latif.
Latif Nasser
Hey, it's Latif Nasser. This is Radiolab. Now I'm about to play for you an episode about an event that you know about, that you've read about a hundred times in textbooks, on Wikipedia pages. No shortage of accounts of this event. And yet the story you are about to hear is one of the most vivid and. And in a way haunting. In a way beautiful tellings of a singular human experience. It sort of tells this compelling story on two levels. On a human level, and then on a. Literally on a cellular level, even smaller than a cellular level, on a DNA level. I think it's a tremendous piece of work and I had nothing to do with making it, so I feel like you can take my word on that. We first aired it in 2012. Here it is, double blasted. Wait, you're listening.
Unknown
All right. Okay. All right.
Sam Kean
You're listening to Radiolab Radio Lab from wnyc.
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Rewind.
Sam, are you there?
Sam Kean
I am here. Hello?
Unknown
Okay.
Hey, Sam.
Sam Kean
Hello. How are you?
Unknown
Good. How are you?
Sam Kean
Good.
Unknown
So, to begin with, we're talking to author Sam Keane, Radiolab regular, and he has just written a wonderful new book called the Violinist's Thumb. And in it he tells a story which is actually kind of encouraging, I think. Yeah.
To get to that part, though, you have to make it through the worst.
Luck imaginable and a thousand year curse. Yeah, well, I don't even know where to begin with you, but maybe just.
Tell us the fellow's name.
Sam Kean
The fellow's name is, I hope I'm pronouncing it right. Tsutomu Yamaguchi.
Unknown
He is Japanese, of course.
Sam Kean
Story takes place in Japan, specifically on August 6, 1945.
Unknown
What is his job, this fellow?
Sam Kean
He's a ship engineer. He designed big military and shipping boats for Mitsubishi.
Unknown
And Mr. Yamaguchi had spent the last couple of months working in Hiroshima.
But now, finally, he's about to leave.
Sam Kean
The next day to return home.
Unknown
And on the morning of August 6th, what's happening with him?
Sam Kean
He gets partway to work and he realizes that he has forgotten his incon.
Unknown
What's an incon?
Sam Kean
It's a seal that they use to stamp documents.
Unknown
Oh.
Sam Kean
That was his signature, which, you know.
Unknown
Was important for his work.
Sam Kean
So he goes back home to his boarding house, gets waylaid by the owners of the boarding house he's at, and they say, would you come to have tea with us? And he's very polite. So he sits down for tea for a while with them. Then finally they let him go. He grabs his ink on, hops back on the bus, takes his bus to a streetcar, gets off the streetcar, and he starts walking. And at this point, it's about 8:15 in the morning, he's got about a.
Unknown
Mile to walk to get to the Mitsubishi plant. So he's walking by some farms to get to the city, when all of.
Sam Kean
A sudden he hears something overhead. He looks up in the sky and.
Unknown
He sees a plane way, way up above him.
Sam Kean
And he can just see a very tiny speck descending from the belly of the plane.
Unknown
And he knows right away that's a bomb. I mean, Japan is at war after all.
Sam Kean
He's been drilled in air raid tactics.
Unknown
So he drops to the ground, covers.
Sam Kean
His head, and he plugs his thumbs into his ears and he waits for the big bang to go off.
Unknown
But this time, before there's even a.
Sam Kean
Sound, there was a very hot flash of very bright white light that sort of bathed over him. Then after that came the roar. It actually picked him up off the ground and threw him. He could feel the air sort of raking over his belly, and it threw him down and he landed unconscious.
Unknown
Okay, before we move forward with Satomu's day, and it does not end here, let's just rewind the story about a fraction of a second back to that moment when he's on the ground, crouching with his fingers in his ears, and that light comes. Well, the thing about that white light.
Sam Kean
Is that it is filled with gamma rays, which are basically like really high powered, intense X rays.
Unknown
And in that instant, the light hits him. Those gamma rays shoot through his skin into the cells of his body where his DNA is, where they slam into water molecules that are clustered around the DNA.
Sam Kean
DNA is a very thirsty molecule. It has lots of water nearby it. And gamma rays, when they come crashing in, they knock electrons right off the water molecules and it forms these very reactive molecules called free radicals, which become.
Unknown
Like hungry little beasts.
Sam Kean
And they start to go after DNA. They're very greedy for electrons because they're missing an electron at this point, and they see this big molecule nearby, DNA, they go right after it and they start ripping electrons off. They basically cut it at various points.
Unknown
All of which is to say that the moment the light Hit him. Tsutomu Yamaguchi's DNA got shredded.
Where did the bomb land? In proximity to him, like right near him, or was it miles and miles away?
Sam Kean
He was about a mile or so away. It's a little hard to judge, but he was about a mile or so away and he just remembers waking up lying in the potato field.
Unknown
So then what happens?
Sam Kean
He wakes up and he has no idea how long he was unconscious because the bomb sucked up so much dirt that it sort of made the entire area dark. It was like storm clouds over the entire city. So he couldn't tell how long he'd been unconscious. But he got to his feet and sort of started staggering through this potato field.
Unknown
And he looks down at his arms.
Sam Kean
It looked like he had this horrendous sunburn on both of his forearms, especially his left forearm, which was closer to the bomb. But he's walking by people who are torn open and bleeding or staggering. They're clearly not going to make it. And he's just sort of wandering through this field before he realizes that he should go report to work.
Unknown
He's going to go to Mitsubishi.
Sam Kean
He didn't know what to do. He was sort of dazed. That was the only thing he could think of to even try to do. It was the only real anchor he had to the city.
Unknown
But when he gets to the Mitsubishi plant, it isn't there. It's just rubble. His co workers are dead. So he decides what he's got to do is he's got to find a way to get home and back to his family.
Sam Kean
And he starts hearing a rumor that there are going to be trains leaving Hiroshima to go south, which is where he's from. And he decides he's going to get to the train station no matter what. The unfortunate part is that he has to cross over rivers to get to the train station. And most of the bridges have been knocked out.
Unknown
At this point, he finds himself walking along one river, literally filled with bodies that are beginning to pack together.
Sam Kean
And he's desperate enough where he actually starts crawling over this bridge of bodies in the river because he had no other way of getting across. And they were clogging the river at a lot of points. So he starts crawling over them. But he gets to a gap in the river, so he has to turn back. He goes a little bit downstream and he finds that there's a railroad trestle across the river at this point, and there's one beam of it intact. So he climbs up this little tower and basically, like a tightrope Walker starts walking across this railroad trestle to get to the other side.
Unknown
Eventually he does find the train station.
Sam Kean
And there's predictably kind of a mob waiting to get on these trains. But he pushes his way through, gets to the train and he sits down.
Unknown
And the train leaves to take him home to Nagasaki.
Go away.
He's Nagasaki.
He's going from Hiroshima a day later to Nagasaki.
Sam Kean
He's going to Nagasaki the next day.
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Unknown
He's going from Hiroshima a day later to Nagasaki.
Sam Kean
He's going to Nagasaki the next day.
Unknown
I don't, I don't like where this is going.
Does he find his family?
Sam Kean
He gets to them. He finds them at home.
Unknown
Spends a day swimming in and out of consciousness.
Sam Kean
And the next day, August 9, he gets up, gets to Mitsubishi headquarters. He's bandaged up, not looking very good, and he starts telling his boss and his fellow engineers about this enormous bomb that had exploded and devastated the city. And after a minute or so, his boss cuts him off and he says that this is complete baloney. You're an engineer. Calculate it. How could one bomb do? Destroy an entire city? And as soon as he finished saying that, Yamaguchi felt the same flash that he'd felt in Hiroshima, followed by that.
Unknown
Same roar for a second time.
Sam Kean
Yamaguchi's thought while this was happening was, oh, my God. He thought the mushroom cloud had followed him from Hiroshima. In a sense, I guess he was right. It had sort of followed him there.
Unknown
And again in that flash, gamma rays flood his body.
Sam Kean
They would have created free radicals again, and it would have attacked his DNA a second time.
Unknown
A second time he pulls himself up, staggers out of the building.
Sam Kean
It didn't collapse this time.
Unknown
And he climbs up a hill nearby.
Sam Kean
And he starts looking over at Nagasaki.
Unknown
Which is burning just like Hiroshima was three days before. And the sky is black with clouds again.
Sam Kean
And he could see where his neighborhood was. And it looked like his neighborhood was Completely burnt out, too.
Unknown
He does eventually find his family. They made it into an air raid shelter. And they do try to restart their lives. But within a short time, his health.
Sam Kean
Starts sinking pretty quickly. His hair fell out. He had boils erupting on his body. He kept throwing up. His face swelled. He lost hearing in one ear. His arm, he reported, looked like whale meat. This sort of bright red raw meat because he'd had sort of this blackened crust over it. And when the second bomb came, it incinerated that and fell off.
Unknown
Now, the really scary thing for scientists at the time who, you know, had begun to study the effect of radiation on the body was that it seemed like all that physical trauma, that was just the beginning of. Of the nightmare. Because, remember, these gamma rays attack the DNA that makes you you. And that's not just a problem for you. That's the same DNA that you pass down to your kids and their kids and their kids kids.
What if those genes stay broken down through time?
Sam Kean
There was a famous quote from Herman Mueller, the person who first figured out that exposing genes to radiation could cause a lot of damage to them. And he told the New York Times, if the bomb survivors could foresee the results a thousand years from now, they might consider themselves more fortunate. If the bomb had killed them, he thought that it would propagate like a biblical curse through the generations.
Unknown
And when the actual damage was done, how long did that take?
Sam Kean
It's over within a millisecond. The gamma rays coming in, that is over in a millionth of a billionth of a second. That happens pretty much instantaneously. And the free radical doing their damage is over after about a millisecond.
Unknown
Wow. So a millisecond creates this in Mueller's forecasting thousand year curse.
Sam Kean
Exactly. It's over at that point.
Unknown
And here was a guy who got.
Sam Kean
Blasted twice within the span of three days.
Unknown
How many people on Earth were in both blasts?
Sam Kean
There's only a handful of people that they know of who were in what they call the blast zone, about a mile or a mile and a half zone in both cities. And Yamaguchi was one of those few people.
Unknown
So the question was, was Mueller right? Did these bombs create some kind of genetic curse that would echo through time? How long would it last?
For the next 40, 50 years. Scientists both in Japan and in America began to track birth defects, incidence of cancer in the children of those who had been hit or blasted by the bomb.
Which brings us back to Mr. Yamaguchi.
Sam Kean
Couple years later, Yamaguchi and his wife did decide that they did want to have children.
Unknown
So he recovers.
Sam Kean
He does recover. He goes back to work at Mitsubishi again. She's been so good to him. He had to go back there.
Unknown
I mean, it's not their fault, Right.
Sam Kean
Anyhow, so he gets back on his feet, his health returns, and in the early 1950s, he and his wife decide that they want to have some more children. As you can imagine, there was a lot of anxiety about this kind of throughout the world. People really didn't know what was going to happen, especially because the initial blast of radiation really hit pregnant women hard. There were a lot of birth defects. It ended up producing a lot of babies with very tiny heads called microcephaly, and they had very low IQs. They couldn't do anything for themselves.
Unknown
Nonetheless, Mr. Yamaguchi and his wife decide they're gonna go for it.
Sam Kean
And they do have children.
Unknown
Children, plural?
Sam Kean
Yeah, they had two daughters after that. And the two daughters initially are fine. They don't have any noticeable birth defects or any birth defects. But they ended up starting in their teenage years and then, especially as adults, having a lot of health problems. They had a lot of immune problems. And they quite naturally blame it on the fact that their father got exposed to the nuclear bomb twice and their mom got exposed once, but still no.
Unknown
Cancer, no birth defects.
And roughly 60 years later, as far.
Sam Kean
As I know, they're still alive.
Unknown
Really?
Sam Kean
Yeah.
Unknown
Now, here's the amazing thing.
Sam Kean
In Japan generally, though, there's really no evidence that the next generation of people really suffered. The children of atomic bomb survivors in Japan were really didn't have a higher incidence of birth defects or cancer or anything like that.
Unknown
Now, of course, the people who were directly exposed to radiation, obviously they had a ton of health problems, but it.
Sam Kean
Somehow just didn't get passed on to the next generation, it seems.
Unknown
Seriously, I find that so surprising.
Sam Kean
Yeah, I just assumed that the next generation of children would have reported a lot of health damage, a lot of birth defects, a much higher rate of cancer, but that didn't happen.
Unknown
Why not? I mean, like, how could it not affect the next generation? I mean, given the way that the gamma rays attack the DNA, it just seems like it would have to.
Sam Kean
Well, there is evidence that people.
Unknown
Sam says there's a couple of things that might have happened here. First of all, if you're talking about damage getting passed down through generations, the key thing for DNA is what's going on inside your sperm and your egg cells. Those are the sex cells.
Sam Kean
That's the only DNA that gets passed to the next generation.
Unknown
And he says, maybe these sex cells are just hardier than we thought.
Sam Kean
And probably even more importantly, it turns out that after 4 billion years, DNA can do a pretty good job of repairing itself. There's one gene in particular called the p53 gene, and that's sometimes called the guardian of the genome. And it looks for DNA damage wherever it can.
Unknown
It's sort of like our guardian angel embedded in our genes. And there's a lot of different ways that DNA can get messed up.
Sam Kean
DNA is a double helix, which means.
Unknown
It'S got these two strands of chemicals.
Sam Kean
The A, C, G and T letters.
Unknown
That all fit together sort of like a zipper, so that the letters always.
Sam Kean
Match, A always matches with T, and C always matches with G. So if you can read one side of the DNA strand, you know what has to appear on the opposite strand.
Unknown
So when one of the two strands gets damaged, this p53 gene, it sort.
Sam Kean
Of whistles over these certain handyman proteins, and they come over, they'll basically cut that strand out, throw it away, and.
Unknown
Pop in a new one. Because if you've got A and C on one side, you know, you need T and G on the other.
Sam Kean
Pretty simple. It's an ingenious system. Other times, both strands get snapped, and that is kind of an emergency for your body.
Unknown
When that happens, this little guardian gene.
Sam Kean
Will basically force the cell to commit.
Unknown
Suicide, because it can't afford to have that cell turn cancerous.
Now, I don't think we want to leave the impression that, you know, you can stand in a bomb blast and your children will not be affected. For sure. For sure. Because I don't think we're that sure.
Sam Kean
No, there is evidence that people from Chernobyl, for instance, did show higher signs of birth defects, but there was different kinds of radiation that got into the food supply. And when radiation gets in your body, it's kind of like a bazooka at short range, and it does a lot more damage to your DNA.
Unknown
Which is why, in 2011, with the reactor meltdown, the Japanese government immediately quarantined all contaminated food and animals. But still, what's sort of beautiful here is that something that seems so unbelievably intricate and fragile, like a strand of DNA, that little tiny flame that we pass into the future, that. That can be so surprisingly resilient, that we can be so resilient.
What happened to Mr. Yamaguchi?
Sam Kean
What was he actually lived all the way until 2010.
Unknown
2010.
Sam Kean
He lived 65 years after that.
Unknown
How old was he?
Sam Kean
He was let me look up to make sure he was 93 years old when he finally died.
Unknown
Oh, my God.
Latif Nasser
Big thank you to Sam Kean, whose work we always and forever love. He actually has a new book out. I mean, every book that Sam Keane has ever wrote is like, is worth your time. This new one is called Dinner with King. How Rogue Archaeologists are Recreating the sights, sounds, smells and tastes of lost civilizations. We'll be back next week. Thank you for listening.
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Radiolab Episode Summary: "Double-Blasted"
Introduction
In the episode titled "Double-Blasted," hosted by Lulu Miller and Latif Nasser of Radiolab, the narrative delves into the harrowing yet resilient story of Tsutomu Yamaguchi, a Japanese ship engineer who uniquely survived both the Hiroshima and Nagasaki atomic bombings in August 1945. Through investigative journalism and evocative storytelling, the episode explores the profound human and scientific implications of nuclear warfare, particularly focusing on the effects of radiation on DNA and subsequent generations.
Background: Introducing Tsutomu Yamaguchi
[00:25] Latif Nasser introduces the episode, highlighting the significance of Tsutomu Yamaguchi's experience:
"The story you are about to hear is one of the most vivid and... haunting. In a way, beautiful tellings of a singular human experience."
Yamaguchi, a ship engineer for Mitsubishi, had been stationed in Hiroshima for months and was preparing to return home when the first bomb was dropped.
The First Bombing: August 6, 1945
On the morning of August 6th, Yamaguchi realizes he forgot his incon (a seal used to stamp documents) and returns to his boarding house. After a brief tea with the owners, he resumes his journey home, walking through nearby farms. At approximately 8:15 AM, he notices a small speck descending from a plane, recognizing it as a bomb. Following air raid protocols, he drops to the ground and shields himself.
[04:06] Sam Kean explains the immediate impact of the bomb:
"The light is filled with gamma rays... they knock electrons right off the water molecules and... form these very reactive molecules called free radicals... they start ripping electrons off [DNA], cutting it at various points."
Yamaguchi is approximately a mile away from the blast. The intense flash of gamma rays causes immediate and severe damage to his DNA, leading to long-term health repercussions. Despite this, he survives the initial blast and begins to navigate the devastated Hiroshima, witnessing widespread destruction and loss.
Surviving Hiroshima and Moving to Nagasaki
[07:23] After the first bombing, Yamaguchi decides to return to work at Mitsubishi, seeking normalcy amidst chaos. However, upon arriving, he finds the plant in rubble and his coworkers dead. Determined to reunite with his family, he embarks on a perilous journey to Nagasaki, navigating destroyed infrastructure and treacherous conditions.
[12:25] On August 9, 1945, three days after Hiroshima, Nagasaki is bombed. Yamaguchi experiences a second exposure to gamma rays, once again damaging his DNA:
"Yamaguchi's thought while this was happening was, oh, my God. He thought the mushroom cloud had followed him from Hiroshima. In a sense, it had sort of followed him there."
Health Implications and Genetic Concerns
[14:36] The episode delves into the scientific fears of the time regarding radiation's potential to cause long-term genetic damage. Herman Mueller, a pioneer in studying radiation effects, speculated that the bomb's impact could create a "thousand-year curse" affecting future generations.
[15:04] Sam Kean contrasts this fear with the actual scientific findings:
"There is no evidence that the next generation of people really suffered. The children of atomic bomb survivors in Japan didn't have a higher incidence of birth defects or cancer or anything like that."
This revelation challenges the initial fears, highlighting the resilience of DNA and the body's mechanisms for repairing radiation-induced damage.
Yamaguchi's Legacy: A Life After the Bombings
Yamaguchi and his wife, despite severe health issues stemming from radiation exposure, chose to have children. They had two daughters who, initially healthy, later experienced various health problems, including immune deficiencies. However, extensive studies in Japan found no significant increase in birth defects or cancer rates among the children of atomic bomb survivors, suggesting that the feared genetic curse did not materialize as anticipated.
[19:05] Sam Kean reflects on this outcome:
"Somehow just didn't get passed on to the next generation, it seems."
Scientific Insights: DNA Repair Mechanisms
[19:33] The episode explores the intricate DNA repair mechanisms that likely prevented the transmission of radiation-induced damage. The p53 gene, known as the "guardian of the genome," plays a crucial role in identifying and repairing DNA damage or initiating cell suicide to prevent cancerous mutations.
[20:26] Sam Kean elaborates on the DNA structure and repair:
"DNA is a double helix... if you've got A and C on one side, you know, you need T and G on the other... it's an ingenious system."
These biological safeguards ensure that even severe DNA damage can be corrected, mitigating the risk of hereditary genetic defects.
Conclusion: Resilience and Legacy
[22:19] Tsutomu Yamaguchi lived until 2010, reaching the age of 93, a testament to human resilience despite experiencing two atomic bombings. His story underscores the body's remarkable ability to repair DNA and challenges the initial fears of long-term genetic repercussions from radiation exposure.
[22:53] Latif Nasser closes the episode by expressing admiration for Sam Kean's work and briefly mentions Kean's new book, emphasizing the enduring impact of Yamaguchi's story.
Notable Quotes
Latif Nasser [00:25]: "The story you are about to hear is one of the most vivid and... haunting. In a way, beautiful tellings of a singular human experience."
Sam Kean [05:04]: "DNA is a very thirsty molecule... gamma rays... form these very reactive molecules called free radicals... they start ripping electrons off [DNA]."
Sam Kean [19:05]: "Somehow just didn't get passed on to the next generation, it seems."
Key Takeaways
Tsutomu Yamaguchi's Unique Experience: Only a few individuals, including Yamaguchi, were exposed to both the Hiroshima and Nagasaki bombings, providing unique insights into the effects of nuclear weapons.
Radiation and DNA: The episode elucidates how gamma rays from atomic bombs cause immediate DNA damage but also highlights the body's efficient repair mechanisms that prevent long-term genetic defects.
Debunking the Genetic Curse Myth: Contrary to early scientific fears, extensive research indicates that radiation-induced genetic damage from the bombings did not adversely affect subsequent generations.
Human Resilience: Yamaguchi's life exemplifies human resilience in the face of unimaginable devastation, surviving two atomic bombings and living a long life thereafter.
Conclusion
"Double-Blasted" is a poignant exploration of one man's survival through one of history's darkest moments and the scientific journey to understand the true impact of nuclear radiation. Through meticulous storytelling and expert insights, Radiolab not only honors Tsutomu Yamaguchi's legacy but also provides a nuanced understanding of radiation's effects on human DNA and future generations.