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Dave Ramsey (0:05)
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Jade Warshaw (0:16)
Sarah, how can we help today?
Sarah (0:17)
Thank you so much for taking my call.
Jade Warshaw (0:19)
You bet. What's going on?
Sarah (0:20)
So I am curious on your thoughts on once you've paid off your consumer debt. My husband and I are 40. We've been married 15 years. Paid off about 150,000 doll in student loans when we first got married. Wow. Now we've got three kids, and I'm just sort of looking at how our expenses keep growing every year. Combination of kids inflation and lifestyle creep. And just sort of curious on that balance of, you know, the intensity from where we started our marriage to the intentionality and how you balance that in a way that's honoring the hard work and being mindful of the future, if that makes sense.
Unknown (1:02)
I think that's a great question. So would you consider yourself on baby step five, baby step six? What's the plan?
Sarah (1:10)
Where are you four or five and six? We still have a balance on our mortgage.
Unknown (1:15)
Okay. And you're still putting aside for kids college.
Sarah (1:18)
Yes. And putting aside for kids college.
Unknown (1:20)
Yeah. I think there's you. You said all the right buzzwords, which is at this point, you're moving from intensity to intentionality. What? You're right. And, and the way that intentionality balances with the idea of I still want to enjoy my life, at what point does it become, quote, unquote, lifestyle creep? Because lifestyle creep kind of has this negative connotation that if I'm increasing my lifestyle too much, I'm putting myself kind of in a, in a, in a red zone or in a. In a place where I'm not being financially smart. Right. And so the way I like to think of it is, first off, the reason that we do the baby steps is so that. And you get to fill in the blank on what the. So that is so that I can live in a nicer house, so that I can travel more, so that I can go to more of my kids sports games, whatever the. So that is, chances are it does cost more because this is a whole money thing. Right. And so for me, where the barrier lies is as long as I'm doing all of the things that would. Would cause me to be a financially responsible adult, it's okay for me to increase my income and therefore increase my lifestyle. Right. So for you, you're a baby steps walker. I kind of like to filter this through. Just a general kind of five pillars of personal finance. Am I a person who keeps and sticks to a budget monthly? Yes. Okay, great. Check that box. Am I a person who is out of debt and values never going into debt again? And I'm putting that. And have put that into practice? Yes. Am I a person who carries the proper insurances? I've checked all the boxes. I've done all the stuff. I check my cover yearly. I carry what I need to. Okay, I do that. Check. Am I a person who has valued savings and investing for the future, whether that's emergency funds, whether I'm contributing the right amounts to my investing for the future? Right. Check that box. And am I a person who prioritizes generosity? If I'm doing those five things, I'm also working on my baby step. Yeah. Increase your lifestyle, knock yourself out, have a good time. That's what it's about. It's not about I have to limit myself like this all the time. All the time. Otherwise, what was the purpose? What was the point?
