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at RamseySolutions.com SmartVestor Paul is in San Francisco. Hey, Paul, how are you?
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Hey, thanks for taking my call.
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Sure. What's up?
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So, my question's about retirement planning and specifically retirement accounts. A 401k. I have a bit of a unique situation and I get a different opinion from everyone I ask about this. So I thought I might call the Ramsey show.
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Well, you'll definitely get an opinion.
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Yeah, I thought so. It's an interesting one. So I've done decently well for myself so far, but this is my first time having a 401k. And I'm wondering if it makes sense for me to really use the 401 because I found out recently someone in my family had been very, very successful. And I knew that eventually I was expecting to probably inherit some of that. But I was able to see, actually read through the trust recently, and it's a lot, like a lot more than I expected. And I'm sort of wondering if I can find security in retirement from that potentially. Does it make sense for me to not use that 401k and maybe have that money be more valuable to me now or use a roth and Roth IRA instead?
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A Roth IRA instead of a 401K?
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Not necessarily. Instead, I have a Roth right now that's. It's pretty small. But I'm just saying instead of. Okay, how old are you trying to retire? I'm 21.
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Oh, okay. And what do you make a year, sir?
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About 330,000. Wow. What do you do in tech?
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Good for you. Well done. Okay, and how much is in this trust that's supposed to come to you?
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So there are a lot of different people? Not a lot, a handful. I think it's six different beneficiaries in the trust, but it's low to mid eight figures. So I would think that that's plenty to retire on, especially if that's going to grow over time.
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So you're going to receive $100 million. Your part.
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I mean, if you're accounting for how it's going to grow, that might be what it's worth. Total. I mean, divide that by five, maybe.
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Oh, divided by five. Well, that's a lot different. Okay, so you might get. You're going to get somewhere between, you think, ten and twenty million dollars?
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I would think so.
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Okay, and about.
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About what?
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How many years out do we think this might be?
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Well, I mean, like we said, I'm pretty young. That's a fair way.
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How many years before this person dies and you get your $20 million?
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Dude, roughly maybe 20.
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Okay. She'll be like 40 years old. Okay. All right.
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Yeah.
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So, no, I would not put my life on hold and quit investing and quit building wealth on my own because I might get an inheritance 20 years from now. Absolutely not. I would pretend like that's not coming and live my life properly and with discipline and with dignity. When you save money, it says something about your character and your maturity. It's not a math thing. And so it's good for you to develop a life that's good for Paul. And if in addition to that you get an extra $20 million, well, that puts you in a position to be outrageously generous someday and change your whole family tree in addition to the money that you make, because you could easily making 330,000 starting at 21. You should be a multimillionaire by the time this money comes. And if you don't, then you just pissed it away and you're an immature child.
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Yeah, no, I live quite frugally, actually. I have no debt.
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Well, I mean, there's a lot of options here. There's three things we can do with money. We can spend it and enjoy it, and you should. You can give it and be generous with it, and you should. And you can save and invest it, and you should. All three are good for your character. They're good for your psyche. They're good for your spiritual walk. All three are good for the math. All three cause you to have a high quality person and be a person that someone listening would want their daughter to date. A trust fund baby who put life on hold. Waiting on an inheritance 20 years from now is not someone I want my daughter to date. This is not a man with big broad shoulders.
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Yeah, you gotta not let that muscle atrophy. And if you start flexing this now and you have that delayed gratification muscle going, the wealth building muscle, that then you're going to treat the money differently. If I was handed $20 million that I didn't actually put away and earn, I'm going to treat it differently than money that I socked away for 20 years. And I think that delayed gratification lesson is worth learning.
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One definition of maturity is learning is the emotional ability to delay pleasure. That's one of the definitions. And so, yeah, I want that for you. Not because of the money or the math or not because you're going to need money. You may or may not need money. If this comes through, you're not going to need money. But I want it for who you become as a person, as a man, as a woman. If you're out there listening, who you become while you get out of debt, who you become while you sacrifice and work extra to clean up a mess, who you become in your marriage and in your relationship, what your relationship looks like, because we struggled together and we both put our shoulder to the wheel and pushed together. Who we become is more important than what we end up with mathematically. And so I don't want you to be atrophied and, you know, from lack of use, of your lack of maturity that you grow into. So, no, I would pretend like that money's not coming instead of using it as a demotivator.
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And if you're so frugal, you're gonna have plenty of money left over to max out all retirement accounts and still have an incredible life.
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Yeah, you're a sharp. And still enjoy. I mean, I'm not saying don't spend and enjoy money. We always say do that. And in your case, gr. God, you're 21. You make 300 grand. Ge. Even cricket. I mean, that's amazing.
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Enjoy some of it.
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Oh, yeah, you need to. But you need to be giving some of it and saving some of it and enjoying some of it. Always be doing all three.
Episode Title: Do I Still Need to Invest for Retirement If I Have an Inheritance?
Air Date: May 1, 2026
Hosts: Dave Ramsey, Co-host (unattributed but likely George Kamel or another Ramsey personality)
Guest Caller: Paul from San Francisco
This episode centers on a frequent question faced by younger high-income earners: Should you continue investing for retirement if you anticipate a substantial inheritance? Paul, a 21-year-old tech professional, calls in with an impressive income and the prospect of receiving an eight-figure inheritance down the line. The hosts walk him—and listeners—through both the math and the mindset behind wise financial planning, regardless of expected windfalls.
Through a thoughtful and character-focused discussion, the hosts reinforce that building your own wealth through habits of investment, generosity, and enjoyment is crucial—even if a windfall lies in your future. Listeners are reminded that maturity, discipline, and balance are more valuable than passively awaiting an inheritance, and to always act as if nothing is guaranteed.