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Chris Hogan
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Dave Ramsey
To Mac, who's in Chicago, Illinois, Chitone. What's up, Mac?
Caller (Mac)
Hey, how you guys doing? I'm a big fan of the show. Thanks for having me on.
Dave Ramsey
Yeah, you bet. What's up?
Caller (Mac)
My question is about around investing. I'm not sure what to do with my cash and my extra money. At the end of the month, I am investing fully in my Roth 401K. I'm doing 15% there and kind of maxing it out, but I have a lot of extra cash left over just sitting in my savings account. And I feel like I should be investing. I don't know how to start. I don't know what to buy. And there's. There's definitely a little bit of fear behind it too, because I. I don't want to make the wrong choices and I don't want to lose it. So I'm calling for some financial guidance.
Dave Ramsey
Cool. I like this question.
Chris Hogan
You're awesome, man.
Dave Ramsey
Yeah.
Chris Hogan
Appreciate the call.
Dave Ramsey
Way to go. So you're already maxing out a Roth 401K. Now, are you just maxing it out or is it 15% of your income?
Caller (Mac)
Well, it actually comes out to 14 and a half percent of my income is maxing out the legal limit. So it kind of. Yes to both.
Dave Ramsey
Okay, good. And you're at the right stage of investing. Right. There's no debt. You have three to six months saved.
Caller (Mac)
That's correct. I've got about 25k emergency fund. I don't have any debt. I. It's so funny. I called the show about four years ago when I did have debt, and no, I'm totally debt free.
Dave Ramsey
I love it. So good. Okay, so you got 25,000 emergency fund. How much did you set? You said there's extra sitting in your checking. That's just above and beyond you need to invest. How much is that?
Caller (Mac)
Yes, it's currently $110,000. And though it feels good, I know that probably shouldn't be sitting in cash. And so that was really the genesis for my call. And then on top of that, I'm able to save $2500 a month. And I. I don't continue doing that, if that's correct. Yeah.
Dave Ramsey
So what's your. Before I tell you about the investing, I want to get a snapshot of your life. Tell me about your living situation. Are you renting? Do you own a House?
Caller (Mac)
Yes. I'm currently renting and though I would like to follow the baby steps and buy a house, I'm not in a position to do so right now. I am financially in a position to do so. But the way my life currently is, I don't know where I want to live long term. I don't know where my next job is going to be within the company I'm in. I'm open to relocating to advance my career. So I really don't. I'm not in a position to buy a house right now.
Dave Ramsey
What's the timeframe on all that? Is it in the next two to three years?
Caller (Mac)
Probably, yeah.
Dave Ramsey
Okay. Well, I will say so I'm gonna pair your living situation with your investing question. I will say you've got the 110,000. I think that's a great start for a down payment. But you know, like I know wherever you end up in the United States, real estate wise, it's going to cost you a pretty penny of a down payment to even get into the world. I'm looking over here at our, you know, on our Ramsey trusted site where you can see the housing market trends and I'm just seeing that the national median median price for a home is 424,000. Right. So even with something like that, if you want to get that to 25% of your take home, you're likely putting down around 60%. Right. Like you're putting down a lot if you, even if you make 100,000 a year. So that's a lot of money. So part of me says what I would do if I were in your shoes is I would keep investing the 15%. But as far as this 2500 in margin goes, and as far as 110, I might keep it in a high yield savings account and just keep plugging away. And until I know that when the time comes and I'm going to buy a house that's likely $400,000 that I can easily plop down a big enough down payment that that thing is not too big of a piece of my world. Does that make sense?
Caller (Mac)
It does make sense and that's what I'm currently doing. Like all the cash I have is in a high yield savings account. However, I think, is that the one.
Dave Ramsey
Ten times or you have something above that?
Caller (Mac)
Okay, that's the 110. About your previous question on timeline, I thought you meant like, like when do you think I would relocate? And that would be in two to three years. In terms of when I think I'm going to buy a house. I really don't know. That's. That's something I just haven't decided yet.
Dave Ramsey
Well, I still like the idea of when the time comes you having like $250,000 or $200,000, I don't know, but it sounds like the type of work you do might cause you to be in an area that has higher real estate prices. Am I wrong?
Caller (Mac)
That's correct.
Dave Ramsey
Okay. So for that reason, that's why I'm saying I like that plan. Because you're getting the boat. The best of both worlds. What's your income, by the way, right now?
Caller (Mac)
About 170 to 180 grand a year.
Dave Ramsey
Yeah, exactly. So you have a really great income. That would be my plan. Now let's say you stack that up to 250,000. You're like, Jade, I really feel good with this. I'm going to keep that in a high yield. I'm still not ready to buy then. Yeah, I would look over and I'd probably, in your case, it'd be easy for you to max out on a Roth IRA every year. You know, you throw 7,000 in there and let that grow. Now, as far as what to invest in. Cause I think I heard you ask that question.
Caller (Mac)
Correct.
Dave Ramsey
Yeah. Four types of mutual funds. And by the way, hopefully your 401k is spread out like this too. But four different types of mutual funds is what I would suggest. We're looking for growth funds. We're looking for growth and income. We, we're looking for aggressive growth and we're looking for international. You might hear that stated as, you know, mega cap, large cap, small cap, and, you know, mixed markets or emerging markets. So that's kind of how we do it. It's just an, it's just a way to make sure that you're very diverse. Everything's spread around. Some of them are higher risk profile than others, and it all balances each other out. And that's the way my money is invested and that's the way John's money is invested. So that's how I do it.
Chris Hogan
But you also asked a question at the beginning, and your question was, I want to make sure I don't lose this money.
Caller (Mac)
Yeah.
Chris Hogan
Part of investment is a risk, of course.
Caller (Mac)
Yeah.
Chris Hogan
So you could put all of that in there and the Q4 Nvidia number comes in lower. And since the stock market's been propped up by 10 stocks the last year or maybe even longer, like it could be volatile. Right. And so you. That might go down and the day it goes down, I'm still going to make my same contribution because I'm playing a long game with it.
Dave Ramsey
Right?
Caller (Mac)
That's correct. And I'm definitely going to continue to do my 401k. I just, that's something I don't think about. It's definitely a long term thing. Every check, you know, but in terms of, I like to think my current cash is where I'm concerned.
Chris Hogan
Yeah, I, I, I, I guess I want to double click on what Jade was saying. Part of investing or let me ask you this, what are you going to do with a big pile of money?
Caller (Mac)
I don't know. That's why I was calling.
Chris Hogan
I'm just saying like in 10 years or in 15 years you're going to buy a place to live.
Caller (Mac)
That's correct. Yeah.
Chris Hogan
Right. And so I just want to double click on what Jade said. I think it's so right. If you have a quarter million dollars in a high yield savings account, number one, some bros somewhere are going to come after you. Who cares? Because here's what you'll have that they don't. $250,000 to do whatever you want, whenever you want.
Caller (Mac)
Yeah.
Chris Hogan
And if you want to go put 25% down on a million dollar house, you can just write a check. You know who else can do in this country? Not very many people. And if you want to pay, put 50% down on a $500,000 house. Great. Like you'll be able to just chip away at it and chip away at it. I love the idea of you having cash for like, like real estate as part of your investment portfolio over time. You know what I'm saying?
Caller (Mac)
Yes, I understand. Yeah, that makes a lot of sense.
Chris Hogan
What I don't want you to do, you're going to get itchy is to get into like speculative stuff and crypto and oh, maybe if I like that's where I think you're going to get yourself in trouble.
Caller (Mac)
Yeah. And that's definitely something I don't plan on participating in. I think it's like I even have an initial fear of investing in the stock market with funds and I know I probably should be on top of my 401k.
Dave Ramsey
Just remember it's the same, it's the same. That's in your 401k. So if you're looking, if you log in and, and check out your 401k and you feel good about it, you feel good about the growth, you feel good about what you've seen, that it's the same. It's the same stocks. And if you're still unsure, you can check out a SmartVestor Pro to help you learn a little bit more. And we'll make sure you get that information.
Podcast: Ramsey Everyday Millionaires
Host: Ramsey Network (Dave Ramsey, Chris Hogan, et al.)
Date: January 5, 2026
This episode focuses on practical, actionable investing advice for everyday people, highlighted by a listener call from “Mac” in Chicago. The Ramsey team discusses how to handle extra cash after getting out of debt and building a solid emergency fund, explores the emotional fears surrounding investing, and provides a roadmap for responsible, disciplined wealth building. The discussion centers on real-life decisions and long-term thinking, making it relevant for anyone preparing to invest for the first time or deciding what to do with significant savings.
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This episode provides a roadmap for both first-time investors and those transitioning from disciplined saving to intentional investing—balancing wisdom, patient wealth-building, and courage to start.