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Dave Ramsey
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At RamseySolutions.com SmartVestor David is in Houston. Hi, David. Welcome to the Ramsey Show.
David
Thank you. I'm in $80,000 of debt after I graduate and I heard you're the guy to get me with a game plan to get me out of debt.
Dave Ramsey
Wow. What's your degree in?
David
It's an engineering.
Dave Ramsey
That's good news. So you're an engineer?
David
Yes.
Dave Ramsey
What type of engineering are you going to go into?
David
I'm going to be working in oil and gas.
Dave Ramsey
Okay, good. And you've graduated?
David
I'm going to be graduating this semester.
Dave Ramsey
Good. Okay. Have you lined up the new job?
David
I have very anxious about it.
Dave Ramsey
What are you going to make?
David
120. With a 10k signing bonus.
Dave Ramsey
Awesome. What'd you make last year while you're in school?
David
Only internship money, so not much.
Dave Ramsey
Okay.
Well done.
So guess what we're going to do next year? Live like an intern.
David
Okay. Live like a college student.
Dave Ramsey
Yeah.
Yeah.
I think I just. I think I just freed up the majority of your 120 to pay off your 80, including your $10,000 signing bonus. You don't get to buy a car with.
David
Okay.
Dave Ramsey
You have to clean up. You have to clean up the poop before you can buy a car.
David
Okay.
Dave Ramsey
Does that make sense? Is that logical to you?
David
It does make sense.
Dave Ramsey
Let me give you some great news. Our company, Ramsey Solutions, has worked in this space helping people with money for 35 years. About five years ago, our research department did an airtight research project studying. Did the study of millionaires in North America ever done? One of the things we asked was, and we figured out was what are the top careers of the person who becomes a millionaire? By the way, 89% of America's millionaires, according to that study, and it's accurate, are first generation rich. Meaning they started with nothing. They did not become a millionaire because of inherited money. They became a millionaire because of hard work and getting out of debt and then saving and investing. You follow me?
David
I do follow you, loud and clear.
Dave Ramsey
Top five careers with the highest probability to become millionaires. Number one, engineer.
David
I'll take that.
Dave Ramsey
Number two, accountant. Number three, teacher. Number four, business executive. And number five, lawyer. Medical doctors didn't even make the top five. And you were number one. But here's why. One of the things your academic discipline has taught you is that there are systems and processes that must be followed. There's only one way to do it. You don't get to be like, creative arts is not part of engineering. You follow me?
David
I do.
Dave Ramsey
There's a set of chemistry formulas. There's a set of stress formulas. If you're building a bridge, and if you don't build it that way, the freaking thing falls. There's one way to do it. There's one way to do accounting properly. There's no such thing as creative accounting unless you go to jail. Okay. So that kind of stuff. So all of these people in this top five are process people. You're a process person. It's what your discipline has trained your brain to do. So I'm going to send you a graduation gift. It's called the Total Money Makeover. It's the book that we did. We're coming up on 12 million of them sold now and that many people have gotten out of debt. That's why somebody told you to call me. Okay?
David
Okay. Perfect. That sounds wonderful. Thank you.
Dave Ramsey
Yeah. You follow that system exactly like it was a chemistry formula, like it was an engineering formula, math formula. You follow the process, be a process guy, follow it and get yourself out of debt super fast. And then you got the rest of your life to live with a fabulous income and building wealth and building the ability to be generous and help others. Okay.
David
Okay, that makes sense.
Dave Ramsey
David, I'm going to warn you. You agree with everything Dave said rightfully. But you're going to go out and tell people that don't know what we teach or have no idea who we are or why we are the way we are, and they're going to try to talk you out of this because you got a good income. They're going to tell you to live a little and enjoy it. I'm telling you, you've got to have that engineer brain fully engaged right now and treat this as a problem that you can solve and you know how to solve it. On the other side of this, you. You are going to stack wealth really, really quickly, and you're going to have no stress in your life when it comes to finances. So please remember that when somebody tries to talk you out of it, because they will.
Number one mistake people make when they graduate college and get the big job, they go buy a new car. Yeah. What are you driving right now?
David
I drive an old Honda, but I already have it paid off. So how old? It's only like 2015. So it's not.
Dave Ramsey
Dude, that's going to be perfect.
David
Yeah.
Dave Ramsey
You know what that is? That's a millionaire car.
David
Yeah, it is.
Dave Ramsey
That's a car that Makes millionaires a gallon.
David
Dude, it's amazing.
Dave Ramsey
45 miles of the gallon and they're super reliable.
Your buddies start pulling up in the engineering parking lot in their new F150, decked out.
David
Yep, I know. Yeah, the Raptor.
Dave Ramsey
Yeah, it's a beast. I got one that's incredible. And I want you to get you a Raptor later. They're. They're awesome.
David
Okay, but.
Dave Ramsey
But right now, you just be happy that you're car will fit in the back of it.
David
Fair enough. Take the 10 and then pay off.
Dave Ramsey
Throw it at it. You got 70 left, you make 120. And so we know that if you live on 50, not counting taxes, that boom, you're out of debt in one year. If you did it even faster, nobody here would be mad because the sooner you get out and you're free, the sooner you get to live all the dreams that you had when you worked so hard to get this degree.
And you pay cash for a Raptor.
Dude, you pay cash for the rent.
David
Exactly. So that makes sense. I could probably pay off all my debts in like a couple years. Three at most, then.
Dave Ramsey
Honey, you weren't listening. I thought you said you had $80,000 in student loan debt.
David
Yeah.
Dave Ramsey
You had other debt?
David
What? No. No other debt.
Dave Ramsey
Okay. You're making 120.
David
Yes.
Dave Ramsey
Let's do some fourth grade math.
David
All right.
Dave Ramsey
One. Plus a $10,000 signing bonus. If you make 120, you throw 10,000 at the 80, it becomes 70.
David
Yep.
Dave Ramsey
You live on 50. Pay 70 off in one year. Okay, yeah, that's what I was saying.
David
Okay, now I get what you what.
Dave Ramsey
You like super fast.
David
How much? How much? Because it'll be 120 or 130 pre tax.
Dave Ramsey
I know, I know. You're going to lose some to taxes, which means you're not going to live on 50. You're probably going to live on 30 or 40. But you lived on a lot less than that this year. Live like an intern. I wasn't kidding, dude.
David
Okay.
Dave Ramsey
And clear it up in one year. How old are you?
David
I'm 21.
Dave Ramsey
Okay. If you do this, you'll be a millionaire by the time you're 30.
David
Okay, that sounds good.
Dave Ramsey
All right, hang on. I'm going to send you the book. I think you can do it.
Oh, it's only another year of ramen noodles. Dave. He can do it as long as.
Whatever college kids, the peer pressure from his broke friends.
That's what's going to happen.
Driving a new Ford with a twelve hundred dollar payment. Yeah, but I'm looking good. I'm broke, but I got no money, but I'm looking good at the stoplight for people I don't know.
Ramsey Everyday Millionaires
Host: Ramsey Network
Release Date: May 9, 2025
In the episode titled "If You Do This You'll Be A Millionaire Before 30," the Ramsey Network delves into the essential strategies and mindsets that ordinary individuals can adopt to accumulate extraordinary wealth by the age of thirty. Featuring insights from Dave Ramsey and a guest named David, the conversation centers around debt elimination, disciplined financial planning, and leveraging career choices to build a prosperous future.
The episode kicks off with Dave Ramsey addressing a listener, David, who is grappling with $80,000 in student debt as he prepares to graduate with an engineering degree. Ramsey's approach immediately centers on pragmatic financial advice tailored to David's situation.
At [00:18], David introduces himself, revealing his significant debt burden post-graduation and his anxiety about managing it. Holding an engineering degree with plans to enter the oil and gas sector, David expects an annual salary of $120,000 along with a $10,000 signing bonus.
David [00:18]: "I'm in $80,000 of debt after I graduate and I heard you're the guy to get me with a game plan to get me out of debt."
Dave Ramsey emphasizes the importance of living below one's means to tackle debt. By adopting a frugal lifestyle akin to an intern's during the first year of employment, David can allocate a substantial portion of his income towards debt repayment.
Dave Ramsey [00:14]: "We're going to do next year? Live like an intern."
Ramsey outlines a clear plan:
Dave Ramsey [01:54]: "You follow that system exactly like it was a chemistry formula... follow the process and get yourself out of debt super fast."
Ramsey references a comprehensive study conducted by Ramsey Solutions, which analyzed the careers most likely to lead to millionaire status. Surprisingly, medical doctors did not make the top five, while engineers topped the list.
Dave Ramsey [02:24]: "Top five careers with the highest probability to become millionaires. Number one, engineer."
The study revealed that 89% of America's millionaires are first-generation wealth builders, emphasizing that inherited wealth is not the primary path to millionaire status. Instead, hard work, debt elimination, disciplined saving, and investing were the key factors.
Dave Ramsey [02:18]: "89% of America's millionaires... became a millionaire because of hard work and getting out of debt and then saving and investing."
Ramsey draws parallels between engineering principles and financial planning, highlighting the necessity of following systematic processes to achieve financial goals.
Dave Ramsey [02:35]: "You follow that system exactly like it was a chemistry formula, like it was an engineering formula, math formula."
He underscores that adhering to a structured plan, much like engineering standards, is crucial for successful debt management and wealth accumulation.
Further into the conversation, Ramsey and David dissect the math behind debt repayment. By dedicating $70,000 of the $120,000 salary to debt, David can eliminate his $80,000 debt within a year, assuming minimal tax impacts.
Dave Ramsey [06:32]: "You throw 10,000 at the 80, it becomes 70. You live on 50. Pay 70 off in one year."
Ramsey cautions that even with tax deductions, David's frugal living will enable him to clear his debt swiftly, paving the way for substantial wealth building thereafter.
At [03:12], Ramsey praises engineering as a top career choice for financial success due to its inherent focus on systems and processes, which translate well into disciplined financial management.
Dave Ramsey [03:12]: "There's only one way to do it. You don't get to be like, creative arts is not part of engineering."
This disciplined mindset, cultivated through an engineering education, positions David ideally to follow Ramsey's financial system effectively.
Ramsey anticipates challenges David might face, such as peer pressure to indulge in a lavish lifestyle despite having a substantial income. He advises maintaining strict financial discipline even when friends may encourage more extravagant spending.
Dave Ramsey [04:18]: "You're going to stack wealth really, really quickly, and you're going to have no stress in your life when it comes to finances."
Ramsey emphasizes the long-term benefits of resisting short-term temptations, ensuring financial stability and wealth accumulation.
An engaging part of the conversation revolves around the idea of the "millionaire car." Ramsey praises David's choice of a reliable, fuel-efficient 2015 Honda over a new, expensive vehicle.
Dave Ramsey [05:17]: "That's a millionaire car. That's a car that makes millionaires a gallon."
This concept highlights the importance of making practical, cost-effective choices that prioritize financial growth over superficial status symbols.
By adhering to a structured financial plan, living below one's means, and making strategic career and lifestyle choices, David is on a clear path to not only eliminate his debt but also to amass significant wealth by the age of thirty. Ramsey reiterates the critical nature of discipline, process adherence, and resisting external pressures as keys to financial success.
Dave Ramsey [07:15]: "If you do this, you'll be a millionaire by the time you're 30."
This episode serves as a motivational blueprint for young professionals aiming to secure their financial future. By combining disciplined financial practices with strategic career choices, Dave Ramsey illustrates a clear pathway to becoming a millionaire before thirty. Listeners are encouraged to adopt these principles to achieve financial independence and prosperity.