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Dave Ramsey
Hey, Dale. What's up?
Dale
This is great to talk to you. I'm really excited. I have an issue to decide whether to pull out of the market and put everything in annuities.
Dave Ramsey
Oh, no. Who would tell you to do that?
Dale
Well, I've got two brokers. They're kind of dueling a little bit. My IRA is with. I don't know if you want to give the name of that one company. And I've got a money market account with the second company. And I was commenting to my broker Jared at the second company that I need to start taking some money out. And so he got on the ball. He wants my business, basically. So he's come up with a plan to take everything out of company A and put it into annuities in a four, four step plan. Have one that matures in one year, Summit two, and Summit three. And Summit.
Dave Ramsey
The second guy is not a financial advisor. He works for an insurance company.
Unknown
He's going to be making a lot of commissions off you, Dale.
Dale
That's what I just. I don't like annuity.
Dave Ramsey
No, no, no. Second guy's fired.
Unknown
That's easy.
Dave Ramsey
Before he got hired. No, I mean, he's an insurance guy. He's not. He's not a. He's not an investment broker.
Dale
Okay.
Dave Ramsey
The reason he wants to put you in annuities is he can't sell mutual funds. He's not licensed to.
Dale
Ah, I was not aware of that.
Dave Ramsey
Yeah, that's. That's how I know why. Why he's pushing annuities. Very few people push annuities in the financial planning world unless they're insurance people. The. Even. Even variable annuities. Variable annuities are not horrible, but that's not where you should be. First and foremost. There's very little flexibility there. How old are you?
Dale
70.
Dave Ramsey
And how much money is this?
Dale
Okay. In my IRA, I've got 630,000 money markets. 146,000.
Dave Ramsey
Yeah.
Dale
I could give you a complete breakdown, but I don't know.
Dave Ramsey
You don't need to be in annuities unless you're just scared to death or something. And you don't strike me as that you're just trying to figure out how all this works is what strikes me. So let's go back to your first guy and talk to them. If you want another opinion, you could go to ramseysolutions,.com and click on SmartVestor. Talk to one of our SmartVestor pros in the area and. And they will teach you why I'm yelling. No annuities. Okay? Annuities are not evil. They're not bad. The variable annuity is a mutual fund inside of an annuity. It has some advantages, but it has a lot of flexibility issues. You can't get to the money. It's very difficult to get to it inside of seven years. And you're 70 years old. And so if you're wanting to access the monies, you want to move some of it into a one year, some of it. You don't need to do all that. If you just put it in mutual funds, you. You can just get to it whenever you want to. I'm 64. I've got total access to everything now.
Unknown
You're past 59 and a half.
Dave Ramsey
Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Any of, any of it I want.
Unknown
I can just tap into that Roth.
Dave Ramsey
Yep. And I can do whatever I want to do. I don't touch any of it. I don't need any of it. But I mean, if I, I've got complete flexibility. If I want to cash a bunch of it out and go buy a big, big, big piece of real estate, which it could happen, I might do that because I'm a real estate guy. But anyway. But no, I'm not going to. I don't have it tied up in annuities. There's just very few times I'm going to put somebody into an annuity. The variable annuities have some good elements to them. We can talk about that later. But you don't need them, Dale. And I smell an insurance person is what I smell. Yeah. Have a certain tint to it.
Unknown
You can smell it from here.
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Ramsey Everyday Millionaires: Episode Summary
Episode Title: Is My Advisor Pointing Me in the Right Direction?
Host: Ramsey Network
Release Date: August 15, 2025
In this insightful episode of Ramsey Everyday Millionaires, the Ramsey Network hosts delve into the critical topic of evaluating financial advisors and ensuring they are guiding you toward sound investment decisions. The episode centers around a real-life caller, Dale, who seeks advice on conflicting investment strategies proposed by his two brokers.
The episode begins with Dale reaching out to Dave Ramsey for guidance. Dale is grappling with contradictory advice from two separate brokers:
Dale expresses uncertainty about which path to follow, showcasing a common predicament faced by investors when advisors have differing agendas.
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Dale (00:15): "I have an issue to decide whether to pull out of the market and put everything in annuities."
Dave Ramsey promptly identifies the nature of the second broker’s advice. He points out that insurance representatives are often incentivized to sell annuities because they yield higher commissions compared to mutual funds.
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Dave Ramsey (02:00): "You don't need to be in annuities unless you're just scared to death or something."
Ramsey's skepticism toward annuities stems from their limited flexibility and the potential for high fees, which can impede an investor's ability to access funds when needed.
A significant portion of the discussion focuses on the differences between annuities and mutual funds:
Annuities:
Mutual Funds:
Ramsey emphasizes the importance of maintaining flexibility in investment portfolios, especially for individuals around Dale's age of 70, where accessing funds without penalties becomes crucial.
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Dave Ramsey (02:56): "If you just put it in mutual funds, you can just get to it whenever you want to."
Dave urges Dale to consider his current financial situation and future needs. At 70 years old, Dale should prioritize liquidity and the ability to access his retirement funds without significant restrictions, which annuities may hinder.
Ramsey also highlights that annuities are not inherently "evil," but they are often misused by advisors who may not have the client’s best interests at heart.
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Dave Ramsey (03:00): "Any of it I want."
Concluding the call, Dave Ramsey advises Dale to:
Ramsey reassures Dale that with proper guidance, he can navigate his investments without succumbing to high-commission products like annuities unless they genuinely serve his financial objectives.
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Dave Ramsey (03:37): "If you want another opinion, you could go to ramseysolutions.com and click on SmartVestor."
This episode underscores the importance of understanding the motivations behind financial advisors' recommendations. It advocates for informed decision-making, emphasizing flexibility and low-cost investment options like mutual funds over products that may limit financial freedom, such as annuities.
Listeners are encouraged to critically assess the advice they receive, seek multiple perspectives, and leverage reputable resources to ensure their financial strategies align with their long-term goals.
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For more personalized financial advice, listeners are directed to connect with a SmartVestor professional through Ramsey Solutions, ensuring access to trustworthy and client-centered financial planning.
This episode serves as a powerful reminder to stay vigilant about the advice received from financial advisors and to prioritize flexibility and control over personal finances, especially during retirement.