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At ramseysolutions.com Smartvestor John is in Arizona. Hey, John. How are you?
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Hey, John. Or hey, sorry. Hey, Dr. John and Dave.
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Oh, you can call me John. That's what my mama calls me. That's perfect. What's up?
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Thanks for taking some time. Hey. So we just. Our family. We just finished building a home. We moved in last month. During the construction, we were able to cash flow a good amount. And the remaining mortgage is $600,000. We're still working to sell our old home. It's paid for. We should be getting around $500,000 from that sale. We have about $880,000 between investments and retirement and 100,000 in cash that has our emergency fund and some inmarked funds to landscape our new home. The question is, with the 500,000 from the sale of the old home, I'm kind of wrestling with not wanting my network to be so top heavy with home equity versus investments, which is what it would be if I put it all towards that mortgage. Just wanted to get your advice.
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What's your household income?
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It's right around between 300 and 400, depending on the year.
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Okay, good. Way to go. And what's the new home worth total?
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We cash flowed about a million, so It'd be about 1.6.
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Okay. All right. Yeah. Your house is a high percentage of your net worth, and you're not going to get away from that. You made that decision when you decided to build a $1.6 million house.
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Kind of got away from us there.
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Yeah. That doesn't change. Scope creep is what got you. It really isn't. The net worth situation doesn't change just because you're high. You can't hide from it. Now by not paying off the mortgage. It doesn't accomplish what you're trying to accompl. So what I would do is I'd get that mortgage paid off as quick as I could. You got 500 to throw at, 600 when the other house sells. And then I'm going to take a chunk of my other money and knock out that last hundred. Might use some of that emergency fund instead of putting the bushes in for right now, let's get the stinking thing paid off and I'm going to get it paid for and then I'm going to start moving in that direction. So what we've discovered, to answer your overall question philosophically, so to speak. Not really philosophically, but practically that's your tactical answer that I just gave you. Now strategically, your answer is this, that's a better way of saying this. As we were working with wealthy people, what we find is the larger their net worth, the smaller the percentage of their net worth is on personal things. Home, cars, vacation homes, toys, whatever. The smaller your net worth, the higher the percentage is on your home. So for instance, if your net worth is a half a million dollars and you had 300,000 of the half a million in a paid for house, that's not disturbing, that would be fairly normal. But that's about your ratios. And you're sitting there with about a $4 million net worth. Three and a half. Right. And you got half your net worth right now sitting in your house. So that's starting to be disturbing. It's not anything to panic about, but we're not buying any more personal crap on the net worth column side for a while. You just did it. You're house poor. Not technically house poor, but you see what I'm saying, you need to get the balance back, rebalance your net worth. Because by dumping everything into other investments that are non personal investments over the next whatever number of years to where when we look up in a few years, you have a $10 million net worth and of that the house has doubled and it's 3 million now that starts to be pretty comfortable. But like I talked to a guy the other day that, you know, we were looking at his numbers, he's got $100 million net worth and a $10 million house. So his house, only 10% of his net worth at that. And yours is over 50%. So that's the, but again, that follows with the line of thinking of the higher your net worth, the smaller the percentage of your net worth is going to be in personal home, cars, vacation homes, toys, so on. And so, you know, you take a billionaire and They've got an $8 million jet and the billionaire has a couple of homes, they still, it doesn't add up to even 6% of their net worth in personal consumption. And so that, that, that again validates the concept of the higher the net worth, the smaller the percentage. So, but yours is as high as your net worth is. I, I don't disagree with you, John. It's a little bit unnerving to be there, but being in debt doesn't change it.
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Well, and you called it out. This call should have happened before we, we decided what size house we were going to build.
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Yeah, it's too late.
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You've already, you've already committed it.
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So cows out of the barn.
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I want to, I want to take that risk off of my risk profile. I'm gonna pay that sucker off.
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Yeah, that, that, that helps situation.
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It does.
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Helps the sleep at night factor, right? That's right. Just get it paid off and then that's just. Okay. We have made our personal consumption pledge for the next six years.
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That's it.
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And we're sleeping in it.
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And in reality that means we're going to be aggressive. We're going to put 15% in these mutual funds. Are we going to up a little bit?
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Yeah, we're going to up it because you're. Everything's paid off. Your baby step seven. So we're going to start doing investments out here big time. And there's not going to be more. Much more. So if you go to the beach and your friend has a nice condo at the beach, you can't have one.
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Right.
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Because you instead of buying a $700,000.
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House and a beach condo.
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Beach condo.
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Your beach. Put some sand in the bedroom. Yeah, I mean that's, that's what we're doing here. This is, that's where you are now. So just a little beach there in the set. In the master. In the second master suite of the 1.6 million. Yeah. So. Yeah, that, that's. No, no more mama, you know, mama wants a Bentley. No, mama ain't getting a Bentley. It's not happening here.
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We got a 1/2 million dollar house and here's the beautiful thing. You make 300, $400,000.
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Yeah.
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You clean it up real fast.
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This is two or three years.
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It's more of a, it's more of a. It's not a your stupid discussion or you've done something extremely dumb discussion. It's just like I'm with you, John. I'm a little nervous about it. And I would based on that, start making the moves to not be nervous. First one, pay off the debt. Second one, redistribute most of your investing away from personal issues for the next five, six years and then you'll get it balanced back again. You'll be okay. Cool.
Episode: Is Real Estate Taking Up Too Much of My Net Worth?
Date: October 3, 2025
Hosts: Dave Ramsey, Dr. John Delony
Guest Caller: John from Arizona
This episode addresses a pressing question from a listener who finds himself with a large portion of his net worth tied up in his new primary residence after selling his old (paid-off) home. The hosts analyze what to do when your home makes up a "top-heavy" share of your wealth and explore smart next steps for balancing your portfolio. The episode unpacks how ordinary people manage their assets as their wealth grows and offers practical advice for building diversified, disciplined wealth.
Memorable Quote:
John (Caller), 00:23:
“With the $500,000 from the sale of the old home, I'm kind of wrestling with not wanting my net worth to be so top heavy with home equity versus investments, which is what it would be if I put it all towards that mortgage.”
Memorable Quote:
Dave Ramsey, 01:38:
“What I would do is I'd get that mortgage paid off as quick as I could… Might use some of that emergency fund instead of putting the bushes in for right now—let's get the stinking thing paid off…”
Memorable Exchange:
Dr. John Delony, 04:43:
“This call should have happened before we decided what size house we were going to build.”
Dave Ramsey, 04:48:
“Yeah. It’s too late… Cows out of the barn.”
Memorable Quote:
Dave Ramsey, 05:57:
“It’s not a you’re stupid discussion or you’ve done something extremely dumb discussion. It’s just like—I’m with you, John—I’m a little nervous about it, and I would, based on that, start making the moves to not be nervous. First one, pay off the debt. Second one, redistribute most of your investing away from personal issues for the next five, six years, and then you’ll get it balanced back again. You’ll be okay. Cool.”
“Yeah. That doesn't change. Scope creep is what got you.” (Dave, 01:38)
“The larger their net worth, the smaller the percentage of their net worth is on personal things.” (Dave, 01:59)
“The cow's out of the barn.” (Dave, 04:48)
“We have made our personal consumption pledge for the next six years.” (Dave, 05:08)
“Put some sand in the bedroom.” (Dave, 05:32)
If too much of your net worth is tied up in your home, recognize the situation, eliminate debt, and shift aggressively toward investing in non-personal assets. It’s not a crisis if you make high income and act promptly, but the key is to pause luxury upgrades and “rebalance” over several years.
Action Steps: