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This episode is brought to you by SmartVestor. Connect with an investing pro near you at RamseySolutions.com SmartVestor We've got Chuck in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. Chuck, what's up?
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Hi, Jade and Rachel. Thanks for taking my call. I have a question about purchasing a house. I'm 68 years old. I plan on married. I plan on retiring before year end. We followed all your Ramsey principles, and my wife and I have accumulated a nest egg. A little over 4 million.
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Nice.
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Wow.
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Yeah. We met with a financial advisor just to see what they might be able to do to help us plan retirement. And we had our money up on the whiteboard and I had mentioned that my wife and I were planning on pulling a million dollars out of retirement to pay cash for a house. And they told me that I would be making a mistake doing that. And I. And they said that because you would be on Medicare and your Medicare payments would go from 200amonth to 700amonth. I've always lived my life debt free and they were trying to convince me to take a mortgage out to pay for the house.
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Of course they were.
B
I was curious to see what your opinion was, Chuck.
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I think your gut is correct on what you guys would want to do. I think that's exactly what you would do. And yeah, and a financial advisor for different reasons is going to maybe steer you in that direction. One that, you know, they look at the spread usually and they're like, well, if you keep this in, you know, in good mutual funds, you know, you could make, you know, 10 to 12% versus a mortgage right now is 6%. So you could be making a 6% spread mathematically, yada yada. Some do it because they want to keep your money and they're making money off of your money and they don't want to see that go. But for, for some financial planners, debt is definitely a normalcy and it is seen as a tool. And that is why there are a lot of them that we do not agree with wholeheartedly, which is probably the ones you're talking to, because the Ramsey way is different and it is weird. It doesn't mathematically maybe make sense to a financial planner, but they're not, they're not calculating. Peace of mind, Chuck. You know, when you are retired with $3 million sitting in investments and you got a paid for house, like, I mean, like, like to me, that's, that's living the dream because there's zero risk in it. And so I would, I would, yeah, check out SmartVestor. Pros. You can find one in your area if you go to ramseysolutions.com and sit down. There are ones that have been vetted by us and that we, you know, recommend. And I hope this one wasn't one of those.
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Well, no. And actually, my gut was what you just told me. And this morning I put my information in for an ELP and I had a response from five people. Within an hour. Within an hour.
C
Amazing.
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And you Emails. Yes.
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Good. Well, I would sit down with them.
A
Good.
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Yeah. And go interview, you know, two or three of them and get a gut check on how you're feeling about them. Because I think to your financial planner, you want to enjoy and, like, trust them as a person. Right. And I think a personality match is a big part of it, too. Like, it's someone that, yes, you. You want them to have the knowledge to be able to help and discern your situation the Ramsey way, but you also want to enjoy them and have that level of rapport. So meeting with a couple of them, I think is good. And Chuck, well done. Can we just applaud you? I mean, that is, like, unbelievable. You've literally done it all. I'm like, you're at the.
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Very, very good. Thanks for the call. And very well.
Podcast Summary: Ramsey Everyday Millionaires – "My Advisor Doesn't Want Me To Buy A House"
Release Date: April 30, 2025
Hosts: Dave Ramsey, Ken Coleman, Rachel Cruze, George Kamel, Jade Warshaw, Dr. John Delony
In this episode of Ramsey Everyday Millionaires, the hosts delve into a compelling listener story titled "My Advisor Doesn't Want Me To Buy A House." The discussion centers around the financial dilemma faced by a 68-year-old couple considering purchasing a house outright versus taking on a mortgage, all while adhering to Dave Ramsey's renowned financial principles.
Caller Background
At [00:17], Chuck from Pittsburgh shares his situation:
"I'm 68 years old. I plan on married. I plan on retiring before year end. We followed all your Ramsey principles, and my wife and I have accumulated a nest egg—a little over 4 million." [00:17]
Conflict with Financial Advisor
Chuck explains his recent consultation with a financial advisor:
"I had mentioned that my wife and I were planning on pulling a million dollars out of retirement to pay cash for a house. And they told me that I would be making a mistake doing that." [00:37]
The advisor's main concern revolves around the impact of paying cash on Chuck's Medicare payments, increasing them from $200 to $700 monthly. Additionally, the advisor is advocating for taking a mortgage, opposing Chuck's debt-free lifestyle.
Jade and Rachel's Acknowledgment
Jade and Rachel, representing the Ramsey Network, briefly acknowledge Chuck's situation with enthusiasm:
"Nice." [00:35]
"Wow." [00:36]
Chuck's Appeal for Advice
Chuck seeks the hosts' insight on his advisor's recommendation:
"I was curious to see what your opinion was, Chuck." [01:20]
Advisor's Financial Perspective
Chuck elaborates on the advisor's reasoning:
"Because you would be on Medicare and your Medicare payments would go from 200 a month to 700 a month. They've always lived debt-free and they were trying to convince me to take a mortgage out to pay for the house." [00:37]
The advisor suggests that keeping the funds invested could yield higher returns (10-12%) compared to the 6% mortgage rate, advocating for financial growth over immediate debt elimination.
Chuck's Confidence in Ramsey's Approach
At [02:48], Chuck affirms his trust in Ramsey's advice:
"My gut was what you just told me. And this morning I put my information in for an ELP and I had a response from five people. Within an hour." [02:48]
Hosts' Endorsement of Debt-Free Living
The host responds by emphasizing the importance of aligning with financial advisors who respect and support the Ramsey way:
"I think your gut is correct on what you guys would want to do. I think that's exactly what you would do." [01:23]
Financial Advisor's Motives Questioned
Chuck critiques advisors who may prioritize managing clients' money over their financial well-being:
"Some do it because they want to keep your money and they're making money off of your money and they don't want to see that go." [01:23]
Peace of Mind Over Mathematical Gain
The discussion highlights that while some financial planners focus on numerical advantages, the Ramsey philosophy prioritizes peace of mind through debt elimination and financial security:
"Peace of mind, Chuck. You know, when you are retired with $3 million sitting in investments and you got a paid for house... that's living the dream because there's zero risk in it." [01:23]
Recommendation to Vet Financial Advisors
The host advises Chuck and listeners to thoroughly evaluate potential financial advisors:
"Sit down with them... interview two or three of them and get a gut check on how you're feeling about them." [03:01]
Importance of Personal Rapport
Emphasizing the significance of a good relationship with financial planners:
"You want to enjoy and trust them as a person... have that level of rapport." [03:01]
Endorsement of SmartVestor
The episode concludes with a recommendation to use SmartVestor for finding vetted financial professionals aligned with Ramsey's principles:
"Check out SmartVestor. Pros. You can find one in your area if you go to ramseysolutions.com and sit down." [01:23]
In "My Advisor Doesn't Want Me To Buy A House," Ramsey Everyday Millionaires underscores the importance of aligning financial decisions with personal values and long-term peace of mind. Chuck's story serves as a testament to the power of following proven financial principles over conventional advisor recommendations. The hosts advocate for a debt-free lifestyle, emphasizing the security and tranquility it brings, especially in retirement. Listeners are encouraged to critically assess their financial advisors and choose professionals who genuinely prioritize their clients' well-being over monetary gains.
Notable Quotes with Timestamps:
"I have a question about purchasing a house... because you would be on Medicare and your Medicare payments would go from 200 a month to 700 a month." — Chuck [00:37]
"Peace of mind... when you are retired with $3 million sitting in investments and you got a paid for house... there's zero risk in it." — Host [01:23]
"You want to enjoy and trust them as a person... have that level of rapport." — Host [03:01]
"My gut was what you just told me... I had a response from five people. Within an hour." — Chuck [02:48]
This episode offers invaluable insights for individuals approaching retirement, emphasizing the significance of making financial decisions that align with personal values and ensuring peace of mind through debt-free living.