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Dave Ramsey
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Chris Hogan
This episode is brought to you by SmartVestor. Connect with an investing pro near you at RamseySolutions.com SmartVestor all right, let's go to Bill in Detroit, Michigan. Bill, how can we help?
Bill
Hey, how you doing? Ken, Rachel, thanks for taking my call.
Dave Ramsey
Absolutely.
Chris Hogan
What's going on?
Bill
I have about 850,000 in my 401k and my other. Other investments. And my advisor wanted me to. I was like, I don't know if that's good or not. I'm 62. I want to retire in a couple years, and my advisor is wanting me to invest in an annuity. Is that something I should think about? Don't do that.
Dave Ramsey
Nope. Your advisor probably does because they make a lot of money off of annuities. Not saying that he's a bad guy, but you.
Chris Hogan
Yeah.
Dave Ramsey
No annuity. Yeah. Not a great product. I mean, there's var, variable, and fixed variable. There's certain times that maybe. But that's after everything is maxed out and you have no other options for retirement because you have so much and everything else. And maybe you want to do a little thing over here, but no, The. The short answer is no, I wouldn't. I think you. You have it in a good spot. Is. Are they in mutual funds within the 401k?
Bill
Well, I don't think. I think I gotta. I gotta pay taxes on all that stuff. I'm sure. I. I think it's in a. I got a mutual fund in a bank, and I've got a couple different styles, I guess, and the ones are just through work. It's a 401k regular work. 401k where they match and stuff like that.
Dave Ramsey
Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Well, I would. Yeah. Just to look in. Because retirement is coming up for you to make sure that what everything is invested in feels like a good spread. You know, we kind of always talk about four different types of mutual funds so that you have enough diversification. So there's growth growth and income, international and aggressive growth. So those are kind of the four buckets that you can look at within the mutual fund space, which is great. But. No, I would just keep them in mutual funds. You'll get a better rate of return, lower fees and. Yeah, and it is. It's just. It's. It's just a better way to invest your money than being stuck in an annuity.
Bill
Okay. I shouldn't look into rolling over into a Roth or anything like that. How some people do that.
Dave Ramsey
Okay, well, so that for the. I. Yeah. So for the IRA. How much is in the IRA versus the 401k?
Bill
The IRA has 117,000.
Dave Ramsey
117. Do you have cash available to pay the taxes?
Bill
Oh, yeah, yeah. If I have 60,000 in my savings account, which is dumb, I know but.
Dave Ramsey
No, no, no, it's not dumb. That's like good emergency funds.
Chris Hogan
Bill, I've never met somebody doing who thinks he's doing so bad.
Bill
You're. Well, I'm by myself and I'm pretty scared about retiring.
Chris Hogan
You're doing wonderful.
Dave Ramsey
Really good, Bill. Yes, yes. Well, I would look to see. Yeah, I mean, the Roth conversion. There is a tipping point of if you have too much and depending on tax bracket, everything that it may not be worth it. But for a lot of time it is worth it to start rolling over, even if it's a little bit each year. So I would still keep some cash on hand. That's your emergency fund. And you may need less than 60. I don't know. But you could use some of that. I would contact the smartvestor pro, Bill. They're advisors that we recommend and they probably will not be pitching annuities and all that. So they'll be able just to look at your situation and really help from a strategic perspective with okay, your money where you are to help kind of guide the next step. So I really would. So check out our a SmartVestor Pro, one that's in your area. Cause they will be able to have. They have a heart of a teacher. They'll be able to sit with you and really look at this and dig into the numbers. But I'd say no to annuity and yes, probably start rolling over to a Roth. Maybe cash flowing, some of the taxes.
Chris Hogan
Yeah. And Bill, thanks for the call and Christian will help you find that information on the website where you can find some smartvestor pros in your area. Not a fan of your financial advisor because they're selling you a bad product. And remember on this you want to understand everything so that you're not feeling alone and scared and the right financial advisor, you're going to go, oh, I know exactly what I should do and when I should do it, why I should do it, how. And I'm calling the shots. And so that's why we want you. That's your homework assignment. Have a couple conversations and move to somebody that you feel really, really good with that they're teaching you, not selling you.
Date: April 29, 2026
Hosts: Dave Ramsey, Chris Hogan
Caller: Bill from Detroit, Michigan
This episode tackles a core concern facing many approaching retirement: Should you buy an annuity if your financial advisor recommends it? The hosts walk through a real-life scenario with Bill, a 62-year-old listener with substantial retirement savings. The discussion breaks down the pros and cons of annuities, mutual funds, Roth conversions, and what trustworthy financial advice should sound like—arming listeners with practical, honest guidance.
For listeners nearing retirement or feeling pressured to buy “hot” financial products, this episode delivers direct, actionable wisdom—backed by empathy and decades of experience.