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Dave Ramsey
at ramseysolutions.com Smartvestor Neil is in Birmingham. Hi, Neil, how are you?
Neil
Hey. I'm very blessed to be speaking with you and Jay, Dave.
Dave Ramsey
Thank you. How can we help?
Neil
Yes, sir. So my wife and I are working on baby step four and six. We are both nervous about a retirement and working with a financial planner or advisor. We've never worked with one before, but we both grew up in households with pensions but no nest egg to fall back on. And so we're really nervous about the future. Neither one of us want to retire for good.
Dave Ramsey
For you. Well, the. What you don't want from an advisor. I'm not sure why you're nervous. I want to hear that in a minute. But. But what you don't want from an advisor is arrogance or dropping their glasses on the end of their nose and shaming or telling you what you need to do. These are all warning signs that you run from that you should be nervous about. When you sit down with a good advisor, they should be teaching your. You and saying, this is how this thing works and this is why I personally use it, and this is why Dave Ramsey recommends this, and here's how it works. And you say, well, I don't understand. Okay, well, let me try. Let me teach you another way. Well, I still don't understand. Okay, then your. Your job is to teach me, and then I will decide. I kind of think of it this way. I think about. Sometimes I go into a nice restaurant and we asked the waiter, you know what, what's the best thing in here? You ever done that?
Neil
Yes, sir.
Dave Ramsey
And I don't always get what they suggest because sometimes what they suggest I don't like.
Neil
Yeah, we, We.
Dave Ramsey
I don't turn my choices over to them. I just listen to them and then I make my choice.
Neil
Yes, sir. So we. We've been doing it on our own for. For several years. We. We basically started putting in 15%, I guess about five or six years ago after we finally were able to.
Dave Ramsey
Good.
Neil
And so we. We're trying to. We're playing. We are. We are in our 50s now. And so we're trying to play catch up. And so. But we are. Our 401k is not doing. Not. Not kicking out the percentages that we hear on the show that like that the S and P did last year. Everything then. So when. But we have talked to a couple of financial people. Some of them are out of state. We don't know the ins and outs of working with somebody out of state.
Dave Ramsey
I would work with somebody in your neighborhood.
Neil
Okay. See, that's what me and my wife thought. But we were basically told by somebody, we were old school, that that's the
Dave Ramsey
old way to thinking that somebody's always got an opinion about your money. Have you noticed that?
Neil
Yes, sir. Oh, yes, sir.
Dave Ramsey
Yeah. So what I did. Listen, if you just go to Ramsey Solutions, you click on smartvestor Pro, you'll find several people in Birmingham that we recommend. And we don't recommend them if they don't have the heart of a teacher and they don't agree with the stuff we teach here on the air. And so that's a baseline. And then you sit down and interview them and say, would I hire this person as my tutor, as my teacher?
Neil
Okay, so. So we're kind of nervous when we were with a smartvestor Pro, but should we be willing to turn over our money to them? I don't. I don't know. We don't know how that works. A lot of it.
Dave Ramsey
Well, your 401k, you can't turn over. You have to leave it at your workplace. They can look at it for you and say, go back over to work. And that's a choice you could make right there. That make you more. That one. That particular fund outperformed the S&P. The three you got didn't. They can help you look at that. But they can't manage it by turning it over. All it is, is you're setting the stuff under their management. But they're not going to do anything without you telling them what to do.
Neil
I got you.
Dave Ramsey
It's not like. It's not like. It's not like you sign them onto your checking account. They're not authorized to do trades. They're not authorized to do anything unless you tell them to do it.
Neil
Okay, okay, let's see. That's something we didn't know. We didn't know. When we do it, do we just have to turn everything over to them?
Dave Ramsey
I would put everything on the table and let them look at the whole picture.
Neil
Yes, sir.
Dave Ramsey
But I'm not going to lose control of it. I don't lose control of anything. See, when I hire a lawyer, some lawyers get confused. They think they get to tell you what to do. And I'm like, no, you work for me. He worked for me. You tell. You tell me what the situation is, and then I will decide based on the information you teach me about this particular law, about this particular situation, what I am going to do. And then I'm going to tell you what to do.
Jay
Exactly.
Dave Ramsey
You don't. You just don't want. You want to keep in control as to who's in charge here, you know what I'm saying?
Neil
Oh, yes, sir, I completely understand. We're. We're in our. Like I said, I'm 52. So we're going down the track here, getting closer to, well, all you're doing
Dave Ramsey
is saying, I probably can make my money work harder with someone who plays with money all day long, teaching me.
Neil
Yes, sir.
Dave Ramsey
That's all it is.
Neil
And that's okay.
Dave Ramsey
That's all it is.
Neil
Well, that's what. Yes, sir. That's what we will do. Then. That's where this. We don't want to retire poor. You're not the biggest thing we're nervous about.
Dave Ramsey
You're not. You're not going to retire poor. You're going to retire rich. I can tell just by talking to you because you're freaking paying attention. People that retire poor don't bother to look at it,
Neil
unfortunately. I think we look at it every day.
Dave Ramsey
Well, so, yeah, you're getting all twisted up. Get you a plan, ride the plan and have a little peace in your finances. But, yeah, that. That's it. It does. It takes. I think not knowing is what kills you 100%.
Jay
The fact that I can already tell that guy's quite frugal just by listening. They're doing the right thing and it's okay. Everybody, everybody has their moment at different times in life where they, they wake up and they go, oh, crap, I gotta get my money together. And so for some of us, it's a little later down the line. But once to your point, once you start paying attention, there is time to make things right. Especially if you're doing the Ramsey plan.
Episode: What Does Working With a Financial Advisor Actually Look Like?
Host: Ramsey Network (Dave Ramsey, Jay)
Date: March 23, 2026
This episode explores the process, expectations, and common misconceptions about working with a financial advisor, especially for those who are new to seeking professional financial guidance. Dave Ramsey provides step-by-step advice to a caller, Neil from Birmingham, addressing anxieties about control over investments and clarifying the advisor's role. The discussion also highlights the importance of education and maintaining agency in financial decisions, embodying the Ramsey Network's principle of financial empowerment.
The episode reassures listeners that working with a financial advisor should feel empowering, never intimidating or disempowering. Dave Ramsey and Jay emphasize finding someone who educates rather than dictates, always keeping the client in control of decision-making. They dispel myths about "losing control" and encourage financial vigilance and local, relationship-based advising. Above all, the message is clear: It's never too late to start, and attention and discipline are the surest paths to building wealth.