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Dallas
The tribal chief is back on Raw and he is back to running the entire show. But where does Jimmy stand with Roman and where does Jay stand with everybody? Who's next in line for the World Heavyweight Championship? And Becky lynch lost a match to Maxine Dupree. This is the Raw recap of WWE and fanatics original production. Oh, Megan, Maggie, you gotta admit, that was one of the great cold opens in the history of Raw recap. Really great.
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Dallas's Co-host
We're throwing out the word great.
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Dallas
I thought it was honestly. Okay, I'll tell you, it was one of the more slick cold opens in the history of Raw recap. Well, we'll get to your grievance.
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Dallas's Co-host
I have grievances.
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Dallas
We'll get to the airing of grievances. As is tradition when it's time. But first, first to me, we have to, we have to headline this show with everything that Roman Reigns did. Roman Reigns, who lives by this thing of being like, hey, own every room that you walk into. And we heard him tonight on Monday Night Raw telling Jey USO that that's, that's the lesson, to own every room that you walk into. And I felt like Roman Reigns is back. And Roman Reigns is back all of a sudden after weeks of no Roman. He's everywhere. He's omnipresent. He's not just showing up to do his segment and then getting in his Escalade and driving home, you know, like he did in the days with the wise man. No, no, no.
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Dallas's Co-host
Multiple backstage segments for Roman Reigns sticking.
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Dallas
Around for the whole show because he's seeing and hearing everything.
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Dallas's Co-host
Well, even when he's not there, he still sees and hears everything. Which we also found out tonight.
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Dallas
Yeah, there were a couple of moments tonight when I went, oh, and then an expletive, you know, because you're like, yeah, yeah, we're getting a payoff on this. So it starts. Okay. All right. So right off the bat, I want to say that it is clear to me that Roman Reigns has never been less afraid of Big Brunson Reed. And I have evidence. Evidence. Cold, hard evidence. Okay. For a long time, there was this theory that was going around on certain parts of the Internet that Roman Reigns would not wear his nice shoes around Bronson Reed. Remember? Because we would say, well, the shoes that Bronson Reed got, you know, traditionally with the sneaker collection that Roman Reigns has, the ones that Bronson Reed ended up stealing are not top shelf sneakers. You know, does that make sense?
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Dallas's Co-host
Yes.
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Dallas
You know, it was like. It was like, okay, they're nice. They're nice. And no disrespect to anybody that has them or loves them. And the fact. But it was the fact that he stole them from Roman, not what they were. Roman Reigns walked into Monday Night Raw with undefeated fours on. And undefeated fours. If you get Roman's undefeated fours, that is a pair of sneakers. And he walked right in. And not only under the threat of physicality from Bronson Reed, but he challenged Bronson Reed to physicality and he was wearing undefeated fours. And I'm telling you right now that there maybe are two people that caught that me. But the other one is Bronson Reed. Bronson Reed is a sneaker guy. And I've got. And maybe I'm going too deep into this, but I've got to believe that when Bronson Reed saw that Roman was wearing some top shelf sneakers, he went, oh, maybe the tribal chief's not afraid of me anymore.
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Dallas's Co-host
That's a great point.
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Dallas
Maybe he's got my number.
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Dallas's Co-host
I did not notice. Yes, yes, Undefeated force.
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Dallas
Yes.
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Dallas's Co-host
Did not notice those shoes that Roman was wearing. But I mean, it is a great point because Roman has not had just one pair of shoes taken from the tribal thief. He's had two. And then was also put on a stretcher. So to come out with some of your top shelf stuff is a statement.
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Dallas
Yeah. Letting him know, oh, no, we're ready for this. Right? And we see Bronson Reed interrupting him right away. And I, you know, we know How Roman feels about his family. And so for Bronson Reed to be taking the names of AFA and Sika in vain, I said this could be a huge mistake. I don't know if this is the road that you want to go down. But Roman took it in stride and said, you know, you know what my, my father would say if you were here right now?
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Dallas's Co-host
Well, first of all, he called out Paul Heyman and said that dumbass standing next to you, he knows my uncles, my uncle and my father.
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Dallas
That's right.
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Dallas's Co-host
You did not know them.
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Dallas
Right.
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Dallas's Co-host
And dumbass, what would my father say right now?
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Dallas
That's right.
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Dallas's Co-host
Right here, right now.
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Dallas
That's right. Right here, right now. I'm ready to fight. Haman says no. Haman says we're on ro. No, don't do this on, on Romans terms. Do it on your terms. So the challenge is made for the Australian street fight. Another match added to crown jewel on Saturday in Perth. We get an Australian street fight between Bronson Reed and Roman Reigns. Now I do think of all rule sets. Historically a street fight would benefit Bronson Reed without question.
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Dallas's Co-host
But I think Roman Reigns is in a situation here where I know he, he defeated Bronson Reed last time they faced.
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Dallas
Didn't look like it.
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Dallas's Co-host
It did not look like it. At the end of the night.
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Dallas
No.
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Dallas's Co-host
I think Roman's back's against the wall and he has to find a way to beat Bronson Reed.
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Dallas
Well, not only does he beat Bronson Reed because he beat him before, but in a street fight scenario there's no sort of post match attack that you're worried about. In a street fight scenario, it's the guy that walks out is the guy that won at Clash in Paris. The guy that walked out wasn't the guy that won in the record books, but it's the guy that made the statement. In an Australian street fight, the guy that walks out is the guy that wins. And I really think, you know, I really think that Roman Reigns is on a multi leveled plan right now and I think that there are multiple people that Roman has to get to. But if Roman can't get through Bronson Reed, then that, that becomes kind of the end of the plan.
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Dallas's Co-host
Yeah.
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Dallas
You know what I'm saying?
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Dallas's Co-host
To get through Bronson Reed, he has to get through Bron Breaker.
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Dallas
He needs to get his hands on Seth Rollins. Yeah, there's a lot of work to do for Roman Reigns.
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Dallas's Co-host
And if he can't get through Bronson Reed, then what?
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Dallas
Right? And Bronson Reed is no, is no.
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Dallas's Co-host
Easy pick, especially In Australia in a street fight.
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Dallas
That's right. That's right. But Roman, I mean, Roman going like, like, first of all, Roman calling him out immediately going like, I've seen this play before, I know what Paul is doing the same way. Last week, Paul Heyman is calling the same plays and Roman's aware of it the same way. Last week we brought up the stacking, the Jimmy and Jay USO stacking. And it's like if one person is aware of that play, it's Roman Reigns. This week he's literally saying, is this exactly what Paul Heyman just said to you? And the answer is yes. The answer is yes. He goes, yeah, I know, he has said that to me too. But it doesn't matter. You know what I mean? You could pick the step, you could pick the place, you could pick the time. He said, I'm levels above you.
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Dallas's Co-host
Yeah. And I mean Roman at this point in his career, he can read Paul Heyman like a book.
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Dallas
Of course he can.
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Dallas's Co-host
He spent so much time with Paul Heyman.
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Dallas
Of course he can. But also when Roman drops that on you, when Roman looks at you and goes, I'm levels above you, There is no scenario where we're doing this on your terms. They're all my terms. And it's not like Roman is doing this in the old Roman angry way. He's so matter of fact about it. And everybody watching is like, I mean, yeah, you know, that's the thing. Like beating Roman Reigns, putting Roman Reigns on a stretcher, doing all this stuff is an immediate upgrade. Like you, the second you do it, you go up notches. Except it's real tough to do and it's especially really tough to maintain. And Roman Reigns on a mission is a different level of Roman Reigns.
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Dallas's Co-host
When Roman Reigns says, we're doing this on my terms, is anybody doubting him?
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Dallas
No, no. How could you? He's giving you no reason to doubt him. And then of course, the fight breaks out. Roman and Bronson, I think Bronson ate like two Superman punches, but he was still standing. I think this is going to be a, this is going to be a knockdown drag out. This is going to be like, okay, Roman, you've had some time off. You've only had a handful of matches this year, but you're going to hurt for all of them. Like whoever win, like it's going to be throw everything at the wall. Because don't forget Bronson Reed. I mean, he put Seth Rollins through a car.
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Dallas's Co-host
When was the last time we saw Roman in a street fight?
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Dallas
I mean, technically a triple threat is no disqualification, but it's not exactly a street fight. It's been a long time. But also last week we saw Roman, like, swinging that chair around like he was Shohei Ohtani, just knocking people out left and right, you know what I mean? So it's not like this is foreign territory to Roman Reigns, but I say all this to say, like, levels above to talk about the work that Roman has to do, because I think Roman is super conscious of what his mission is. And I thought there was a key moment tonight where Roman is talking to Jay.
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Dallas's Co-host
Well, that's a big question about Roman, like, what his mission is. Right, because we know how important family is to Roman. Yes, but is this about the bloodline right now?
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Dallas
No. I mean, everything is sort of yes, but it's. No, it's a revenge. It's about getting back at Paul Heyman. I mean, you know, it all goes back to family and who betrays who and everything. But no, it's about getting back at the people who's wronged him. He's Charles Bronson in Death Wish. I'm just dropping references this week, but I mean, he's going back and he's getting everybody that's wronged him, you know, that people thought that the minute the bloodline started to dissipate or the minute that he lost the title would. Now the King has shown vulnerabilities. So everybody's going to come at the King, but, you know, you best not missed if you come at the King, you know, and I think that. So I think it's. No, it's about Roman. It has nothing to do with the bloodline, to tell you the truth. It's not. We're not there exactly. Like, we've moved on.
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Dallas's Co-host
This match between Roman and Bronzerina is not one thing to do with the bloodline.
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Dallas
No, but it is about Roman getting revenge and making things right.
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Dallas's Co-host
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Dallas
Toyota trucks and I mean the bloodline in the sense that Roman believes that the richest prizes in the game should be in the possession of his family. You know what I mean? It all is always. It's always. It's all, you know, at some point, related, but that's. Yeah, that's where they're at. And I find it very interesting because, you know, even last week I feel like we've been talking about Jey USO and where he stands, right? And Jey USO as the next Tribal chief and Jey uso, you know, acting like Roman Reigns and Jimmy saying, you're acting like Roman and thinking he's the next Roman and this and that. Maybe Roman's the next wise man and coming up with all these theories. But in reality, it's almost too linear, you know, when you're. When you're thinking about it in those terms. Because I thought it was really clear cut when Roman comes backstage after his altercation with Big Bronson Reed and he goes, and Jimmy and Jay are there and Jimmy's going, you know, we got you. We know we got you. And as he's saying we, Jay is just cutting Jimmy off. I got you. I got you. Don't you know I got you. Don't worry about that. I got you. But Roman doesn't say, yeah, oh, no, no, no, no, no. We're going to. Here's the plan. Here's what we're going to do. Here's what you should be doing. And he says, I thought I told you you need to worry about you. In Roman's mind, Jay is. He's not trying to coach Jay to be the next Roman Reigns. He's trying to coach Jay to be in the position that Roman was in as Jay, not as another Roman saying, I'm gonna go do what I'm gonna go do, but you need to go do what you're gonna go do. And I mean, I love when, like, when the reality, like we've talked about Cody Rhodes and Seth Rollins and how there's so much. And we'll talk about that in a moment with the Seth Rollins and Paul Heyman conversation. But there's so much reality in that. Right when, when, when Seth Rollins is talking about losing the locker room, is he talking about a storyline or is he talking about the fact that he's a locker room leader and the locker room has faith in him? It's this blurred line. And Roman Reigns looking at Jey USO and saying who's talking at the top of the hour? Is like, that's not a pro wrestling thing. That's not a story thing. That's a television real life. A main person is going to be talked. That's what happens on Monday night Raw.
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Dallas's Co-host
Nine o', clock, as the mic. Oh, it's CM Punk. Wait, I thought you wanted to be the guy.
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Dallas
Yeah. Why?
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Dallas's Co-host
Thought you wanted to be in the world heavyweight title picture. Why are you worried about me? Go worry about you.
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Dallas
Right.
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Dallas's Co-host
And do what's best for you. To put yourself in that position and.
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Dallas
The context of that's what the guy would be doing right now. That's what the guy is doing right now. And giving Jay like, that advice. And then.
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Dallas's Co-host
And it stopped Jay in his tracks.
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Dallas
Of course it did.
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Dallas's Co-host
Also. And maybe this is just me and overanalyzing, but you tend to overanalyze.
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Dallas
I analyze just the right amount. It's not over.
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Dallas's Co-host
It stood out to me that jey uso was, for the first time in a while, wearing a bright color. I know he's got a new T shirt.
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Dallas
Imagine that merch.
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Dallas's Co-host
But he's been wearing black a lot lately. That's all. It seemed fun.
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Dallas
Yeetin ain't easy.
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Dallas's Co-host
It seemed fun.
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Dallas
He's a fun guy.
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Dallas's Co-host
He's. The audience was having fun. We ran it back tonight.
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Dallas
He's having fun. He's having a good time. But no, but I think. I think that it's spelled out that, no, you need to own the rooms that you're in. Has nothing to do with me. Like, you don't need to be of service to me. In that moment, Roman was saying, don't be of service to me. Go be of service to yourself. And then after he left, he looked at Jimmy and he said, you know, I see everything right. You know, I hear everything right. And Jimmy's just like, oh, like, I knew. Like, it's not to say Jimmy thinks that he's in the wrong.
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Dallas's Co-host
Yeah. And it's not like Jimmy was trying to talk behind Roman's back.
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Dallas
Right. But he was kind of. Was he saying stuff that he would say with Roman in the room?
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Dallas's Co-host
Probably not.
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Dallas
You know, I don't think that he'd be so direct about saying, you're acting like Roman, and that's a bad thing.
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Dallas's Co-host
It so freely with Roman around.
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Dallas
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Dallas's Co-host
Talk about owning the room you're in.
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Dallas
Hey, you got to. Mack Weldon helps with it. So Jay USO goes to own the room that he's in, right? CM Punk comes out. It's the first time we've seen CM Punk since he and AJ Lee, you remember, defeated Becky lynch and Seth Rollins. Yes. And he said flat out he wants his world heavyweight title back. He doesn't want to get involved in Cody's business, but he wants his world.
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Dallas's Co-host
Well, he says that's one of the reasons that he was gone. One, because he was celebrating and two, because he Promised his friend Cody he wouldn't get involved in his business.
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Dallas
Right. But the same way he started the year beating Seth Rollins on Netflix, he wants to end the year beating Seth Rollins on Netflix, which would be a pretty amazing bookend and kind of wild that we are even talking about the idea that we're about to close out on the first year of Raw on Netflix. Everything is moving so quickly now. Just as CM Punk is talking about wanting the World Heavyweight title back, here comes LA Knight. And LA Knight comes out. And he's right. He makes a good point.
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Dallas's Co-host
I mean, he is the last one who's pinned Seth Rollins.
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Dallas
He's the last one that's pinned Seth.
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Dallas's Co-host
Rollins, and he's defeated him by disqualification. But the disqualification was because of CM Punk.
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Dallas
CM Punk. But regardless, Saturday night's main event, he's the last one that pinned Seth Rollins. And I think that that is something that if he doesn't. If he stops bringing it up, people will forget. So he's doing the right thing by constantly bringing it up. You know, he says, cm Punk, you're a great husband. And CM Punk says, is that an insult? And he goes, no, no, no, no, no. Love is good. Love is. Love is. Love is. Love. However, you're terrible champion. That's the insult. You're a horrible World Heavyweight Champion. Which I said, okay, okay, that was. There were two good lines. That was a great line. You're a. You're a great husband, but a horrible champion. And it was also great when he said, you know who has never, ever, ever, ever, ever been pinned by Seth Rollins? And Punk immediately goes, let me guess. The guy who's never, ever, ever, ever, ever been the World Heavyweight Champion. And it was like, whoo. And Dallas was loud tonight.
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Dallas's Co-host
Yeah. And, you know, it's hard to have the support of the crowd when you're in the ring with CM Punk. And to LA Knight's credit, there was a lot of Yaz out there tonight.
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Dallas
He was getting the room back for himself.
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Dallas's Co-host
He was.
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Dallas
But just as CM Punk and LA Knight were wrestling for the room, here comes Jay USO to take the top of the hour. He goes out there and he goes, well, I never got a rematch for the World Heavyweight title. And it's interesting that they all have a different claim. Louisiana Knights. The last person to pin the champion, CM Punk got that money in the bank briefcase cashed in on him. And Jay USO never got a rematch after Gunther beat him when he lost the World Heavyweight title.
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Dallas's Co-host
And then there was another mic drop moment by CM Punk, when he said to Jay uso, look, I like Jay, but I don't like little Roman.
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Dallas
He called him Little Roman. Don't call him Little Roman. Why would you call Jay USO Little Roman? I know you're coming out here to interrupt him, right? Not interrupt me, because I love Jey uso, but I don't like little Roman. And it's like, bro, bro.
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Dallas's Co-host
First of all, after the backstage interaction that Jey USO just had with Roman, sort of getting the lecture, like I told you, don't be me. Focus on your business. Don't be me. Be you. And the first thing that happens is CM Punk, Little Roman.
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Dallas
And nobody wants to be called little anything. A grown man doesn't want to be called little anything. There's no good little little. There's nothing after that unless you're a little giant. Other than that, no, it's all bad news. So a fight almost breaks out, and Jimmy starts holding Jay back. Which, first of all, I'm like, I am kind of like, you know, you didn't need to come out. Jimmy didn't need to be out there. And also, Jimmy didn't need to hold Jay back. I don't know why anybody on the WWE roster would be like, hey, let's avoid confrontation. That's not what we do. We don't avoid confrontation in pro wrestling. So I was like, I mean, right there, like. Like, this isn't going to end well. CM Punk almost gets super kicked, but Jimmy literally grabs Jay by the waist to stop him. At which point CM Punk sucker punches Jey USO in the side of the head. I mean, clock just like, sucker punches him. Yeah, yeah. And I'm like, sheesh. And then Jimmy has his wits about him and superkicks CM Punk.
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Dallas's Co-host
Now, how do you think Jay feels about Jimmy getting involved in all of that?
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Dallas
Well, he said it. They went backstage, he's like, what are you doing? Get out of here. I didn't ask for you to come out. The reason I got sucker punched in the side of the head is because you held me back. I was doing just fine. And, you know, I think on one end, Jimmy's sitting there going like, well, I did have your back, and I did kick CM Punk in the face when it was appropriate to kick CM Punk in the face.
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Dallas's Co-host
It's interesting because Jimmy comes back to RAW not that long ago, and we're all excited about this super team that they can form. And it's been a lot of, I don't want to say total dysfunction, but a lot of miscommunication between the two of these. These brothers.
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Dallas
Yeah. Because Jimmy thinks it's three years ago.
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Dallas's Co-host
And Jay has been changed because he was a world heavyweight champion and Rome.
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Dallas
Yeah.
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Dallas's Co-host
And Jimmy. Jimmy had to be reminded today about how his brother changed when Roman looked at him and said, look, when your brother became world heavyweight champion, he became less like you.
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Dallas
Well, here's this, okay? They go backstage after the thing, right? And Jay is now yelling at Jimmy and saying, I was out there calling the play. Who was the last person that yelled at an uso? I'm the one that's calling the play, not you, Roman. Yes. I mean, that's straight out of the Roman Reigns playbook. But if you remember, when Roman first came back and Jimmy showed up again to help Roman, Roman was like, did you just call that play? Good job, Jimmy? Like, like, good job. But I do think. I mean, and the way it was explained, right, that. That, you know, Jay storms off and Jimmy said, you know what? And I respected that. Jimmy stood up to Roman. Jimmy says, you know what, Roman? Like, I said that. I didn't. I'm not like you. And Jay's not like you either. And I'm like, okay, say it with your whole chest. But then I was like, why is Jimmy talking for Jay? It's one thing to say I'm not like you, but it's another thing to say Jimmy's not like Jay's not like you. And then Roman just very calmly say, I know you're not like me, but I'm going to tell you, after winning the world heavyweight title, Jay is more like me than he is like you. And in that moment, I'm going like, listen, it's a hard pill to swallow. It's a hard truth. But the reality is, isn't Roman right.
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Dallas's Co-host
He is 100% right.
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Dallas
Like, is Roman really in the wrong on this, or is Jimmy having trouble realizing that things have changed?
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Dallas's Co-host
Well, you know, when you. We've talked about this on the show before becoming a champion, it's. It changes everything, Right? And it's the life that comes along with being a champion. We've talked about this with Biggie on the show. Roman has gone through that. Jay has gone through that. Jimmy has never gone through that and can't understand it.
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Dallas
Yeah, yeah. Well, and I. And I think, too, it's just that, that. And there's something about being brothers, too, that I'm sure changes everything. But, like, the way Roman laid it out, he's like, bro, I'm giving advice as a world Champion to a world champion. Like, you're. That's something that you're going to have to deal with. And I mean, I don't know, my whole kind of perspective on what's going on changed after those interactions from like, Jay wants to be the new tribal chief, wants to be this. To just. No, Jay wants to be a World Heavyweight championship wrestler. And he's getting advice from the person in his family that's done it arguably better than anybody else has in 35 years or more. Roman Reigns. I mean, who else are you going to go to?
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Dallas's Co-host
What a resource, right? Yeah.
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Dallas
And who else are you going to go to for that? So for me, I'm sitting there going like, man, I love Jimmy. I was first in line for wanting to see the USO's back. But also, they said it with a, With a. With a tinge of disrespect. Both CM Punk and La Knight said, why don't you go back to being a tag team? Why don't you go back to being a tag team? It's like, excuse me, raise your hand if you won the title at WrestleMania, you know, like, sorry. And then CM Punk could say, well, raise your hand if you wanted it. SummerSlam. Big deal. But, but, but then, but, but that's. That gets more complicated. But, yeah, I mean, Jay USO won, like, he's like, whoa. And if I'm Jimmy too, like, I'm looking at these guys going like, these aren't my friends. You know what I mean? The way they're. They're treating Jay, the way they're looking at Jimmy through Jay, they're acting selfishly. Nobody is sitting there watching Jimmy's back.
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Dallas's Co-host
No.
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Dallas
So I don't know why Jimmy's watching everyone's back.
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Dallas's Co-host
Yeah. And Jimmy, it was a few weeks ago. He was out there to help try and help La Knight. I mean, Jimmy wants to help everybody. He has to learn the hard way. But it is interesting as well, because a week ago we sat in this room and we were talking about the look between Roman Reigns and Jey USO as Monday Night Raw came to a close. And it almost felt like, and I think you brought this up, that maybe Roman's becoming tribal chief. I mean, Jay is becoming tribal chief, Roman becoming wise men. After tonight, it feels entirely different.
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Dallas
It's entirely different. And it should be. Cause they're different people. And you learn from history, but you don't just repeat it over and over again. You don't just go and go like, oh, we could just remember that thing that we did. We'll do it again with different people. No. You know why? Remakes stink. Remakes are the worst. Every now and then.
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Dallas's Co-host
Father of the Bride 2 is pretty good.
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Dallas
That's a sequel, not a remake.
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Dallas's Co-host
That's right, it is.
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Dallas
Sequels can be okay. Many are terrible.
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Dallas's Co-host
Toy Story 2 is a good one.
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Dallas
Toy Story 2 is good. Godfather 2 is good. But Godfather 3 stinks. And remakes. This wouldn't be a sequel. The way it was being phrased was it felt more like a remake. And remakes stink. And Jay knows that, and Roman knows that, and Jimmy knows that, and we know that. And so we get to this tag team match, finally. Jimmy and Jay USO vs. CM Punk and LA Knight. And at the end, I mean, at the. At the. At the three quarters of the end of the match, the Usos are kind of acting like the old Usos, you know what I mean? Lots of teamwork. Lots of. Lots of. Like that one where Jay had. I think it was LA Night, but it could have been CM Punk in a leg lock and dragged him to the rope so he could get the tag in. And then Jimmy comes in and does this. I thought it was great. I thought it was great. But Jimmy ends up out of commission. Jay ends up having to take care of both guys on his own. Jay almost gets us the second USO splash that he needs, but isn't able to because he's got to go take care of La Knight. Turns around, eats a go to sleep. And then LA Knight with the blind tag pins Jay Uso. 1, 2, 3. Now, look, wins, losses. It is what it is. The most damaging part of all of it is that now going forward, what do you think La Knight's going to say? I pinned you, Jay uso. I pinned you.
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Dallas's Co-host
Pinned him. Pin Seth Rollins.
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Dallas
Yes. So I'm next in line and. And if I'm Jay, I'm going, where were you, Jimmy? That's the question that's going to be on Jay's. Jay's mind. It's going to get tense. It's going to get tense. Well, I tell you, we can celebrate all of it. We can celebrate Jay. We can even celebrate Rhea Ripley, who is not on Monday Night Raw this week. She's already over there in Australia through the new wave of the complex WWE collab. It just dropped at WWE Shop and fanatics. It's got all kinds of superstars. The Rock who just. His movie, the Smash Machine just debuted. Roman Reigns, Triple H. Let me tell you, the collection will not last long. Check it out. Grab your favorites while they're still available. They're really, really cool, the designs. They're just very sort of modern looking. Then you've also got new Rhea Ripley merch. Rhea Ripley is teaming up with one of my favorite movies, Terrifier. Now, Terrifier has mastered the sequel terrifier. Terrifier 2 is even better. Terrifier 3 is the best remake. I would never do a remake. Okay, remakes are no good. But Rhea Ripley loves Terrifier like I love Terrifier. And she's gotten to team up with the whole team over there and Art the clown for an official collab that is now live at WWE Shop and Fanatics. You can add some edge to your collection with these teas today. And of course, you brought up Jay uso's new merch.
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Dallas's Co-host
I like Jay USO in the neon.
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Dallas
I know I might have to the.
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Dallas's Co-host
Black a lot lately. The neon feels more like Jay uso.
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Dallas
I might have to pick it up and add it to my son's Halloween costume.
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Dallas's Co-host
Love it.
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Dallas
Jay uso's brand new green yeet collection just dropped at WWE Shop and Fanatics, featuring tees, hoodies, hats, shades, arm sleeves, and even foam hands. So get it all now at WWE Shop and Fanatics. Now, before we go on to where Rhea Ripley was and what happened with the Kabuki warriors leading into Crown Jewel, we should. While we're talking about, you know, Jay and Jimmy and Roman, we should talk about Seth Rollins.
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Dallas's Co-host
We have to.
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Dallas
We only saw him for a moment and, you know, you've talked about the importance of that watch the WrestleMania 40 Rolex that Cody Rhodes gifted Seth Rollins after Seth acted as Cody Shield. And we saw a little bit of that in that wonderful video package that they put together, kind of chronicling the allies portion of the of Cody Rhodes and Seth Rollins and even his allies. I don't know if they were ever really friends. They might have been on fighting a common enemy. I'll say. But it definitely went over when Seth was Cody Shield in that Roman reigns match at WrestleMania 40 where he finished.
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Dallas's Co-host
His story thanks to Seth Rollins.
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Dallas
And Seth got the watch, but Seth is now very distracted by it. Becky, who we'll talk about in a moment, she's very mad. She's pacing up and down in that dressing room.
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Dallas's Co-host
Do you blame her?
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Dallas
No, I'd be mad if I lost like that, too.
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Dallas's Co-host
We'll get into that.
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Dallas
Okay, so she was. She was. She was pacing up and down, very mad, very mad at the referee. But as she was talking she's saying she's not going to Perth. She's gonna teach him a lesson. She's not going to Perth. Seth Rollins was on another planet.
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Dallas's Co-host
Yeah. He. He was locked in and focused on something, and it wasn't his wife, and it wasn't her issues whatsoever.
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Dallas
No, no. Which is I have been there. But he also wasn't too focused on what was going on with the rest of the Vision. No, he's focused on one thing and one thing only.
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Dallas's Co-host
That's Cody Rhodes.
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Dallas
Yes. He's staring at that watch while Becky lynch is, like, fuming, and then ends up leaving the room. And he looks at Paul Heyman, does Cody Rhodes. And he says, I have to be. I mean, does Seth Rollins? And he says, I have to beat Cody Rhodes. And Paul Heyman says, and you will beat Cody Rhodes. And he goes, no, Paul, I have to beat Cody Rhodes, and you will beat Cody Rhodes. What happens if I don't beat Cody Rhodes? What do you mean? You will. But if I don't? You will. But if I don't. And then Paul says, okay, you want me to shoot you straight? You want me to tell you what happens if you don't? If you don't beat, Paul's entire demeanor changes. Yeah. Like, fine, fine, dude. You want to know the hard truth? And maybe Seth needed to hear the hard truth. He goes, if you lose to Cody Rhodes, you lose the locker room, you will lose the audience. You will lose Bron Breakker and Bronson Reed. You will lose everyone's faith in you and the Vision that you had. You will lose everything that we created coming off of WrestleMania. It all goes away if you lose this match to Cody Rhodes. And he makes a brilliant point, because how do we sit there and trust the vision of a guy who can't beat the guy? You can't tell me you're the guy if you can't beat the guy because.
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Dallas's Co-host
You'Re the secondary champion. How are you the future? How are you the Vision?
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Dallas
Well, I've heard many times, to be the man, you've got to beat the man. So then Rollins goes, well, you left something out, Paul. What about you?
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Dallas's Co-host
And we are both just sitting there with anticipation because we know one thing about Paul Heyman.
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Dallas
Whose side's he on?
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Dallas's Co-host
The winner side.
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Dallas
Okay.
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Dallas's Co-host
Always on the winner's side. So I'm dying to hear what Paul Heyman has to say to this, because Paul risked it all to join Seth Rollins in the Vision.
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Dallas
And I'm sitting there going, like, okay, maybe the strategy, because I'm Trying to get into the head of a oracle, you know, an oracle who prophesizes. And I'm going, okay, maybe Seth needs to hear the hard truth. Maybe this is part of Seth's motivation, that if he hears what a risk this all is, that it will make him be better. But I go, but then, I mean, think about, like, how people who are these psychotic and maniacal leaders are. Sometimes they need to hear the hard truths, but then if they're successful, they'll hold it against you for telling them the hard truth. You know what I mean? It's a complicated, messed up, toxic thing.
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Dallas's Co-host
But that's the type of leader Seth Rollins is.
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Dallas
Couldn't you see Seth Rollins, if Paul Heyman said to him, if you lose, I'm out of here. I could see that being the motivational factor that Seth Rollins needed. But then I could see Seth Rollins on the other side of it holding it against Paul Heyman instead of understanding it was the motivation that he needed. Couldn't you?
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Dallas's Co-host
Yeah. And Paul could just say, well, I was being honest with what would happen. But then Seth again holding that against him.
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Dallas
Right? Because then all. Because if somebody goes to me, if Hot Dog, if I go, Hot Dog, if I don't get this right, are you going to leave me? And Hot Dog goes, yeah, I will. And then I get it right. And then Hot Dog goes, good job, boss. I'm not leaving. I go, yeah, you're fired.
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Dallas's Co-host
Don't ever forget about the night when Seth Rollins came out on Monday Night Raw with the green suit and those glasses. Do you remember those glasses that he had? Oh, they were the little tiny specks. And it was really the first time that we got a glimpse into how psychotic, how manipulative Seth is as a leader. And I think of this example backstage with Paul Heyman because of the glasses, just his whole demeanor. I see it was shortly after Wrestlemania. He had the glasses on. He had the green outfit on and.
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Dallas
Very super villain esque.
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Dallas's Co-host
Exactly. And we just saw the different levels and the layers to the villain that is Seth Rollins.
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Dallas
Manipulation. Yes, I see. I see. Yes, yes, yes. No, I like that. I like that. But Paul Heyman says in the most Paul Heyman way ever, the most diplomatic way ever, he says, I would have to question, if you were to lose to Cody Rhodes, I would have to question what I was doing. I would have to question why I chose you over Roman Reigns, which I'm just like, man, I need to learn how to talk to people like this. Because he figured out a way to say, yeah, it's going to be trouble if you lose. However he did it in such a complimentary like. What are you talking about, Seth? I said that I chose you over Roman Reigns. That's the biggest deal ever. I mean, it's just. I mean, the, the, the, the, the Machiavellian. The craziness that exists in Paul Heyman's head, I've just never seen anything like it before.
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Dallas's Co-host
He's brilliant.
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Dallas
I can't believe he got out of that.
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Dallas's Co-host
Also knows just by even saying the name Roman Reigns what that does in Seth Rollinsbury.
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Dallas
Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah. That, that Roman Trigger kicks in.
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Dallas's Co-host
Oh, and he could have said another way about, like, he could have brought CM Punk into the mix, but it's not the same. Not the same.
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Dallas
It's not. Doesn't touch the same nerve.
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Dallas's Co-host
Yes.
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Dallas
You know, Roman's family. CM Punk is a guy he hates. It's different. It's a different thing because you know what happens with real hate? You know what's on the other side of it?
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Dallas's Co-host
Love.
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Dallas
Yeah. Yes. And that's what's there, I think, for Roman Reigns. But the reason that Becky was so upset in the locker room was because, first of all, she was involved in Maxine Dupree's best match in the wwe.
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Dallas's Co-host
Yes.
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Dallas
Maxine Dupree unleashing quite an onslaught onto Becky Lynch. I think putting up more of a fight than Becky lynch thought. Is that fair?
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Dallas's Co-host
Yeah.
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Dallas
Okay.
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Dallas's Co-host
I think more of a fight than Dallas thought. I mean, they had the crowd changes off Dallas. Dallas tonight.
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Dallas
Oh, I thought you meant Dallas Page.
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Dallas's Co-host
No, Dallas. They were in Dallas. Monday Night Raw tonight was in Dallas, Texas.
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Dallas
Is that what those cheerleaders were doing there?
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Dallas's Co-host
That's exactly.
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Dallas
I thought they just like wrestling. I was going to hit him up.
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Dallas's Co-host
Well, you should still hit them up. Good luck to you. Yeah, but Dallas was chanting, this is awesome.
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Dallas
Yeah. And it was.
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Dallas's Co-host
It was. I mean, I don't. I don't mean this as disrespect to Maxine Dupree, but I don't know if many people were expecting that type of match or that performance out of Maxine Dupree.
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Dallas
I don't think that's disrespectful to see the best match that somebody's had in their entire career and say, I don't think. I mean, I don't. How does anybody. To go in and say, you know what my expectations are? The best match you've ever had. I go, that's a little tough. That's a little. It's a lot to put on me right now. So I don't. I don't take that as disrespectful. Um, but what ends up happening in the match is I. I think from my vantage point, I think Becky lost a little focus. You know, I think she was. She was. It was fabulous match, but she was jawjacking with the audience. She was jawjacking with the commentary table. At one point, she had the referee pinned into the corner, holding the ropes and yelling in her face. That's not exactly the best way to treat an official.
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Dallas's Co-host
I mean, this is Jessica Carr we're talking about. Her and Becky lynch have a past.
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Dallas
What's the past?
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Dallas's Co-host
The past is that Jessica Carr screwed her over in Indianapolis. We all saw the clip on Twitter. Becky lynch has never tapped out in her career.
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Dallas
She did at Russell Palooza, which was also in Indianapolis, because you can't be.
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Dallas's Co-host
Talking about Russell Palooza. And we know flailing her. We know from social media that Jessica Carr has a past relationship. Growing up as a fan of both AJ Lee and CM Punk a little bit skeptical. And also. And I can get our guys in the back to play back this footage. But as soon as Maxine Dupree gets back into the ring tonight, suddenly Jessica Carr cadence, when she's counting increases. 8, 9, 10. That's not right. And you know, I'm sick of it. All weekend, you know, I'm watching the NFL and. And these officials, these referees, they try to make it all about themselves. I watching Sunday Night Football, and here's Jack Ocelli and he's making it all about himself. I turn on Monday Night Raw. Here's Jessica Carr making it all about herself. She is trying to take the. The spotlight away from Becky Lynch.
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Dallas
I mean, yes, she's the Jack o' Shell of wwe.
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Dallas's Co-host
There should be fines, there should be suspensions. I mean, where is Jack Tony when you need him? Where is he? Where is he, Sam?
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Dallas
I think Adam Pierce is actually in charge now. I don't know where Jack Tony is right now. He's. He's not. He's not in power, unfortunately, anymore. I don't know that Jack Tney would have let this slide. Jack Tunney was. He did rule in a fair way with an iron fist as Canadians suspensions.
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Dallas's Co-host
It's not about the referee taking all the.
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Dallas
Lynch's multiple fines and suspensions. Multiple.
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Dallas's Co-host
I mean, Indianapolis tonight, look at Jessica Carr's cadence. Look at it.
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Dallas
She sped up a little.
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Dallas's Co-host
A little.
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Dallas
Becky had her back to the referee. She had her back to the match.
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Dallas's Co-host
It's not about the referee. No one comes to see the referee.
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Dallas
You're saying. You're not even saying that Jessica Carr has a problem with Becky Lynch. You're saying she went into business for.
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Dallas's Co-host
Herself, Saw it in Sunday Night Football, Saw it on Monday Night Raw. What the heck is going on?
- [45:18]
Dallas
No, I know it's a good question. I just never. I thought you might say that she had it out for Becky. I did not in a million years think you would accuse her of trying to be a star.
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Dallas's Co-host
You know, we should be talking here tonight about how Maxine Dupree had the best match of her career.
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Dallas
We were.
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Dallas's Co-host
And all. You know what we're talking about? Talking about the referee.
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Dallas
You. I was just.
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Dallas's Co-host
Ridiculous. It's ridiculous.
- [45:41]
Dallas
I already talked about. Maxine had the best match of her career.
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Dallas's Co-host
We should just more. But instead, we have to talk about the referees. It's terrible.
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Dallas
I didn't. You brought up. I didn't bring up the referee.
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Dallas's Co-host
I mean, you have to bring it up in a match like this. Right.
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Dallas
Because she stole the spotlight. Yes. I see. She was making it seem like people paid tickets to see her. Not the superstars.
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Dallas's Co-host
Suspensions, fines.
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Dallas
Both. Huh? On what grounds? The cadence.
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Dallas's Co-host
Yes, the cadence. Don't you take an oath as a referee to always be not biased?
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Dallas
No. Can we check in the control room? Is there a referee oath? I don't know. Alex says no. We're looking it up. They're trying to find the referee, and Jack Tunney is being.
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Dallas's Co-host
Wow.
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Dallas
Yeah, we're looking for Jack Tunney, too. We're looking for the last phone number he had because I don't know that he's been in power for a while, but.
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Dallas's Co-host
Yeah.
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Dallas
No, no, I guess the cadence did change.
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Dallas's Co-host
Thank you.
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Dallas
The cadence changed. I think that it was more to teach Becky a lesson because she was being disrespectful to the official and she had her back to the match and was looking. Standing on the commentary table, looking at the audience, really not focused on the task at hand. But maybe it's not. It's really not the referee's job to teach a lesson so much or to make it about herself. I don't know that there should be fines or suspensions, but other people might. And that's not my. That's not my judgment call to make. But I will tell you, speaking of.
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Dallas's Co-host
AJ Lee's return, are you okay?
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Dallas
Yeah, yeah. No, I just think about how Tops now celebrated AJ Lee's return. Tops now may have to celebrate this as one of the most egregious. Displays of officiating in the history of wrestling. That's a moment.
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Dallas's Co-host
It is a moment.
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Dallas
And Tops now is all about moments. Capturing major milestones of viral moments from the biggest events like AJ Lee's return, which skyrocketed to the number three best selling Tops Now WWE card ever. Crown Jewels coming up this weekend. And you know we're going to have massive matches. We were just talking about Cody Rhodes and Seth Rollins. Rhea Ripley is going to be there. John Cena, who we'll talk about in a moment. There's bound to be some memorable and viral moments. They're going to be immortalized on Tops now cards. The only way to make sure that you don't miss any, any drops is to sign up for notifications@tops.com and follow OPS on social. You won't want to miss any of these. I mean, going through my Tops now cards that I was collecting all year, like, and realizing all this stuff happened over the course of a year, it's just really, really cool. So go check it out and turn those alerts on so, you know, when the cards come out.
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Dallas's Co-host
I just found out that Jack Tunney got counted out in 2004.
- [48:36]
Dallas
Counted out?
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Dallas's Co-host
Yeah.
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Dallas
Jessica Carr.
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Dallas's Co-host
Wow.
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Dallas
Count it out.
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Dallas's Co-host
Yeah, count it out.
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Dallas
Right, right, right, right. So John Cena final match with AJ Styles happening at Crown Jewel. We have not seen John Cena and you know, I'll tell you, there have been people that have publicly said, you know, I don't know, I like when there's a story. What's the story with AJ Styles and John Cena? To me, the AJ Styles John Cena story is bigger than a singular storyline just because it's, it's encompassing of, of one of John Cena's greatest rivalries ever. And I think AJ Styles made that point abundantly clear when after the six man tag that he was in, he jumped up and broke down. The fact that this match is going to kick ass. And that's the mission at hand, to just put on an amazing, amazing match. But before we got there, it was penta, it was AJ Styles, it was Dragon Lee versus Dominic Mysterio, Finn Balor and JD McDonough. Now I would like to know where Dominik Mysterio got that T shirt of himself as a little kid. I would wear. I mean, that's one, that's one that I would need. I'm going to email Craig and see if he can get me the little baby Dominic Mysterio T shirt.
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Dallas's Co-host
We all need that one.
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Dallas
We do I really think we do.
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Dallas's Co-host
Yeah.
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Dallas
That's like. That might. That has the potential to be the next Austin316 or NWO T shirt is Dominic Little, little baby bleach blonde Dominic Blake. Psp. Uh, but we're watching this match and I will say Penta, AJ and Dragon were working very well together. But ultimate and of course, then the Judgment Day, were able to mount a comeback, but ultimately Rusev came out. Dom hit the road. Dom doesn't want anything to do with Rusev.
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Dallas's Co-host
Do you blame him?
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Dallas
No. Even. I mean, no. No. Rusev had no business being out there, but it didn't seem to bother him one bit, so Dom split. The only thing that may look good for Dom is at that point, Penta accidentally kicks Rusev in his face, which Penta didn't really seem that broken up about. He's like, well, he wasn't my intended target, but he was there. He was there. He got kicked in the face. What do you want me to do? And then it left aj Styles pinning J.D. mcDonough. AJ Styles coming off a victory, going into Crown Jewel. Now, we will, by the way, have AJ Styles on our Crown Jewel preview podcast or we're going to do a preview podcast for Crown Jewel later this week. Big E is going to be on it with us. AJ Styles is going to be our guest on it. Uh, and of course, we're going to talk to him about this match. It'll be on Thursday. Thursday. Wherever you get your podcast on this podcast feed on the WWE's YouTube channel, you'll be able to check out our Crown Jewel preview podcast with Biggie and our guest, AJ Styles. Um, but, you know, it's, it's. It's interesting. This version of AJ Styles really has a chip on his shoulder. It feels like AJ has been open about the fact that he may not have all that much longer left in his wrestling career. But he's also been pretty open about the fact that he's not terribly happy with where he's at in WWE right now, that he has been vocal about the fact that maybe there are people there that don't value him the way he feels like he should be valued. And I think that that chip on AJ Styles shoulder going into this match with John Cena is going to give us something that, I mean, blows us out of the water.
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Dallas's Co-host
Yeah. And everybody's talking about, what is the story. It's like the story is that we didn't think we were going to see AJ Styles against John Cena.
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Dallas
Right? That's right.
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Dallas's Co-host
And because the fans want AJ Styles and John Cena. And we saw this all started on social media, right? Yeah, the John Cena tweet, we talked about it on this show. And then Triple H, a day later comes out with another tweet.
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Dallas
Boom.
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Dallas's Co-host
You guys wanted it. It's going to happen.
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Dallas
You got it.
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Dallas's Co-host
And now AJ has this opportunity to show everybody that he still is AJ Styles.
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Dallas
What's very interesting, because John Cena and AJ Styles are in very unique positions going into this match because you're right a hundred percent about AJ Styles, that AJ Styles has this match with John Cena. Historically, AJ and John bring out the absolute best. We saw a video package about it tonight on Raw. But AJ absolutely can use this match to show what he can still do. And if it hits the right way, who knows where he ends up? He may end up back in main events. He may end up reminding a lot of people what he's capable of. But I don't think enough people are bringing up the fact that John Cena is not on a happy go lucky run right now that, that John Cena lost to Cody Rhodes at SummerSlam. But it was such a great match, it's almost okay. Then he beat Logan Paul and he's back to being a good guy and he's back to all of us cheering for him and it's all fun.
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Dallas's Co-host
And then what happens in Indianapolis, there's.
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Dallas
A big brick wall named Brock Lesnar that John Cena walked face first into. John Cena got absolutely wrecked to the point where fans looked at it going like, we didn't even want to see this. Like, this is. What did I tell you on SummerSlam match? It was uncomfortable.
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Dallas's Co-host
Yeah.
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Dallas
Wasn't it? Didn't it feel uncomfortable? Like you can't. What? Huh? Right? And so John Cena, it's like John Cena has to come back into this and somehow brush that one off and like, go above and beyond himself in this match so that people go, okay, I'm back into it. Because there were a lot of people after John Cena got crushed that were like, I don't know, man. I don't know if this is what I wanted in this John Cena retirement tour. So you've now got a. In. In a position which should just be. That's. To me, this is the story of the match that you've got two guys who. It should just be a celebration of two legends having one last match in their storied careers.
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Dallas's Co-host
But now they both have something to prove.
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Dallas
But at this stage in their careers. John Cena has to get his retirement year back. He's, he's, he's lost hold of it. He's got to get it back. AJ Styles has to remind everybody, powers that be included, what he's capable of in terms of being a main event player and that he's still capable of putting on better matches than anybody in the world. And that's what those two guys have on their plates going in. And quite frankly, those are the expectations that I think a lot of us have going into this match. And that's a lot to live up to, especially when you've got two guys that you know. John Cena has four matches in his career left after this, and AJ Styles, who knows, not many. It's a wild thing. It's a wild thing. And I think I'm very interested to see how it all pans out. Speaking of interested, I'm also very interested in Fanatics 1. You didn't hear about Fanatics 1?
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Dallas's Co-host
Oh, I've heard about Fanatics 1.
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Dallas
I hope so. I've introduced it to you. Fanatics 1. For all you give to the game, now there's a loyalty program that gives back to you. Yes. Because being a fan deserves to be rewarded. Only Fanatics 1 members can earn fan cash and all that comes with it. Exclusive apparel, iconic experiences and rewards tailored to your fandom better than anyone else in the game. Join now on the Fanatics app and enjoy member benefits from day one. Free shipping and returns, exclusive access to product drops, and the ability to earn and redeem fan cash whenever you shop and play with Fanatics. Do it now. Check out the Fanatics app. Join Fanatics 1. And I do want to say, while we've got a few minutes, Kyrie Sane is in a rough spot.
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Dallas's Co-host
I feel terribly for Kyrie Sane.
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Dallas
I mean, when push comes to shove, though, she got one of the nastiest elbows in the business and she'll use it.
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Dallas's Co-host
I love seeing Kyrie Sane hit the elbow. I don't know if Kyrie Sane loved hitting that elbow tonight.
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Dallas
I don't know, man. I mean, listen, I think at the end of the day, it's not like EO sky had a problem fighting Kyrie Sane. Like, this is wrestling, you know, when you're in there, I know you don't want to beat up your friend or whatever it is, but if you're friends with the people you that are in the business of beating people up, sometimes you got to beat up your friends.
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Dallas's Co-host
Yeah. It wasn't the fact that they had to have A match against each other that bothered either Iyo or Kyrie Sane. I think it was the fact that the match was over and Oscar ordered Kyrie Sane then hit the elbow on E.O. scott.
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Dallas
I don't think that's true. Because in the mid. The reason that Kyrie had trouble in that match is because she hesitated in the match on the insane elbow. She got to the top rope. There was a moment of hesitation, and it was all IO needed to get her feet up. First of all, incredible match. Really wonderful match. It was. These two are just out of this world. But it allows IO to get her feet up. That's when Oscar got involved. Kyrie, you know, hooks the legs and bridges over IO and by the way, Jessica Carr didn't catch this one.
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Dallas's Co-host
Oh, shocking. Look at that. Jessica Carr. Big night for her.
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Dallas
Oscar, she could be mad at you. Oscar pull, pulls her wrist, adds the leverage so that Kyrie gets the victory. But honestly, it was an Oscar victory. Oscar is very much pulling the strings. And it feels like with Asuka, there's no halfway in, halfway out. Either you're in or you're out. And that's something Kyrie Sane needs to get comfortable with.
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Dallas's Co-host
I feel like she doesn't have a choice at this moment. Right.
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Dallas
Yeah.
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Dallas's Co-host
EO has left, and she got.
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Dallas
Missed it twice. Three times maybe.
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Dallas's Co-host
And also, you never know what kind of tricks Oscar has. Upper sleeve.
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Dallas
Oh, my God. The worst kind of tricks.
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Dallas's Co-host
I mean, Oscar is the one who brought these two into wwe. Paved the way, Right, for Kyrie Sane and EO sky family to be able to have the careers that they've had.
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Dallas
Yeah.
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Dallas's Co-host
To a certain extent.
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Dallas
I mean, opened. You open the door, you get credit for opening the door that you're not. It doesn't mean you get indentured servitude. Yes, you get a thank you for.
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Dallas's Co-host
Opening the door, But Kyrie feels indebted.
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Dallas
To Oscar, and I think Kyrie's a little bit less secure in herself than EO is.
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Dallas's Co-host
Yeah.
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Dallas
You know what I mean? Spent a world champion, and maybe Kyrie doesn't know for sure where she fits, where she fits without Oscar, but that's not the worst thing in the world. I'm going to tell you something. It might be difficult to have Oscar as a friend. It feels way worse to have Oscar as an enemy.
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Dallas's Co-host
Oh, yes.
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Dallas
You know, sometimes you just go with, like, the lesser of two evils and go, this is the direction that I'm going in. Now, Ria Ripley was not there because she's already in Australia doing media and whatnot. But when push came to shove, whether she was making a sad face or not, Kyrie still hit that elbow on eo.
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Dallas's Co-host
She did.
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Dallas
And I think Kyrie's got to figure out going into Crown Jewel, if she wants to be friends with EO or she wants to win this tag match, because I don't think this is the type of tag match where up next comes a shot at the Women's Tag Team Championship. I think this is the type of tag match where the winning tag team is launched into the singles championship scene. Meaning if Oscar and Kyrie Sane were to win this tag match, I think both Oscar and Kyrie Sane are looking straight ahead at somebody like Stephanie Vicar.
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Dallas's Co-host
Yes.
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Dallas
Which is massive for both of them, without question.
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Dallas's Co-host
I also think Kyrie Sane needs to to figure out, do I want Asuka as a friend or do I want to be on Asuka's bad side? Because it's not do I want to be friends with I.O. or do I want to be friends with Asuka? It's not picking one or one or two. It's do I stay with Asuka or what does life without Asuka look like? And can I handle that?
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Dallas
And come on, just because your friends are a little difficult doesn't mean you leave them. Kyrie and Oscar, the Kabuki Warriors. Legendary. Legendary.
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Dallas's Co-host
It almost seems like a dictatorship at the moment.
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Dallas
Well, look, if somebody's a more powerful leader, that's just the way it is sometimes, you know, if people aren't ready to step up to the leadership, there's.
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Dallas's Co-host
Leading and then there's abuse.
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Dallas
Abuse for Kyrie. Just a little screaming here and there. Little Asuka got her a raw match. That's huge.
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Dallas's Co-host
A match against EO Sky.
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Dallas
Eos guy is a giant Superstar.
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Dallas's Co-host
Yes, but also, given the emotions.
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Dallas
Oh, come on. The emotions again? What? I'll fight anybody as long as they don't make me feel sad.
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Dallas's Co-host
Oh, Mr. Feelings over here. Suddenly forget about emotions.
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Dallas
I'm not a wrestler. I'm a broadcaster. It's different. And I'm telling you right now, when you're looking at Perth and you're looking at Crown Jewel and you're looking at Rhea Ripley and EO sky on one side of the ring, one of the most massive women's tag teams that the WWE has ever had. Add to that, you're in Australia, where Rhea Ripley could be the president if she wanted to. Okay.
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Dallas's Co-host
Yeah, they said that about her.
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Dallas
That's right. Then you've got the Kabuki warriors on the other side of the Ring one of the most decorated WWE women's tag teams of all time. This is a massive match. This is a massive spotlight match. This is not the time to have emotions. This is not the time to go like, oh, I hope everyone's going to be OK and we can all hang out after this. It's about zeroing in and focusing on the moment and the task at hand.
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Dallas's Co-host
And can Kyrie do that right now?
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Dallas
I hope so. I really hope. Hope so.
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Dallas's Co-host
I have my doubts because when the.
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Dallas
Kabuki warriors are on, I mean, there's no stopping them. No stopping them.
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Dallas's Co-host
But how about when the entire crowd is siding with Rhea Ripley?
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Dallas
Let it be. I don't think Oscar's out there for fan approval.
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Dallas's Co-host
No, she's not, you know, because experienced it all. At this point, she's gone.
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Dallas
Yeah, yeah. Ebbs and flows and ups and downs. I mean, this isn't, you know that. I don't. I don't think that's why Oscar is showing up to Perth. I don't think she's showing up to get cheered. I think she's showing up to put a beating on some people.
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Dallas's Co-host
And you talk about this victory catapulting, whoever it is, to the likes of Stephanie Vacair.
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Dallas
That's right. I think so.
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Dallas's Co-host
Oscar's like, bring her on.
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Dallas
Well, I mean, think about. Think about it. If you. If the Kabuki warriors win, either Oscar or Kyrie will have beaten either Iyo sky or Rhea Ripley, which is insane. And I think in the women's division, if you are a person who just pinned either Rhea Ripley or Iyo sky, there's no doubt in my mind that you should be moving forward and saying, okay, now that I've pinned that person, I'd like a shot at the championship, please.
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Dallas's Co-host
No arguments from me on that one.
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Dallas
Well, we're going to break down this match. We're going to break down the Crown Jewel championship match between Stephanie Vicaire and Tiffany Stratton and every other match going down at Crown Jewel later this week on Thursday on the Crown Jewel preview podcast here on the Raw recap feed. Then we will be on after Crown Jewel to do the Crown Jewel recap podcast, which will be early in the day, I hope on on Saturday since it'll be an early show and then we'll be right back here again. That's three podcasts this week and then back here on Monday for the next Raw recap. Thank you, everybody. We'll see you then.