CM Punk gets the last laugh on Seth Rollins: Raw Recap

Summary

Raw Recap with Sam Roberts and Megan Morant

Episode: CM Punk gets the last laugh on Seth Rollins: Raw Recap
Date: May 27, 2025

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Episode Overview

This episode of Raw Recap dives into the fallout from an action-packed Monday Night Raw on Netflix, focusing on the chaotic main event triple threat between Seth Rollins, Sami Zayn, and Finn Balor and the closing shocker involving CM Punk. Sam Roberts and Megan Morant break down key storylines, provide analysis of faction dynamics, and discuss the latest WWE news heading into Money in the Bank. Special guest Bert Kreischer jumps in with behind-the-scenes stories from the night, including trying to turn fellow comedian Tom Segura into a wrestling fan.

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Main Discussion Points & Insights

The Chaotic Triple Threat Main Event and Seth Rollins' Path

• Star Power & Consequences

  • Sam marvels at the current era, noting that a main event starring Rollins, Zayn, and Balor would have been unthinkably huge a decade ago.
  • "[These are] the best three wrestlers in the world, and we just get to see them now. That's how spoiled we are." – Sam Roberts (02:12)

• Faction Drama

  • The addition of Bronson Reed to Seth Rollins’ group (with Paul Heyman and Bron Breakker) surprises the hosts, especially since Reed previously took out Rollins.
  • Megan confesses, "I was kind of mad... make it make sense." (04:41)
  • Sam and Megan agree the story now makes sense—Reed brings destruction as a key asset, and aligning with Rollins is "business, not show friends." (06:50)

• Paul Heyman's Role

  • Megan notes that Heyman called Rollins "the most generous man I have ever met," a notable shift for Heyman and a contrast to his alliances with Reigns or Lensar. (07:02)
  • Sam: "That's Paul Heyman also believing the Rollins Kool Aid. Usually the shoe is on the other foot..." (07:37)

• Money in the Bank Stakes

  • The triple threat, a No DQ match, devolved into chaos with interference from Bronson Reed, Bron Breakker, Jey Uso, and Dirty Dom—fueling multiple feuds.
  • "How could Sami Zayn not see this coming? This match is No DQ. Oh, he did see this coming. Here comes Jey Uso to even the score." – Sam Roberts (12:21)

CM Punk Gets the Last Laugh

• As CM Punk's music plays, he jumps Seth Rollins, ending Raw with Punk standing tall.
• Sam’s assessment: "Seth Rollins is the greatest threat any sitting champion could possibly have when it comes to that briefcase...That said, he's got a demon on his back: CM Punk." (16:00)
• Megan notes Rollins now has backup, while Sam underscores Rollins' calculated approach to revenge and title pursuits.
• "He had a plan...Seth seems to always have his ducks in a row." (17:54)

Money in the Bank: Who’s Got the Edge?

• Rollins joins Penta, LA Knight, Solo Sikoa (and possibly Jacob Fatu) in the MITB ladder match.
• Sam: “If I had to put money on this right now...the idea of Seth Rollins with Paul Heyman, Bron Breakker, and Bronson Reed, holding the briefcase, is compelling television.” (18:31)
• Both hosts stress LA Knight as the fans’ favorite, but “what’s his path to the main event?” (19:55)

Special Guest Segment: Bert Kreischer in the Arena

• Bert shares stories of bringing Tom Segura backstage—highlighting Segura’s transformation from skeptic to fan after experiencing the live atmosphere.
• "The last match of the night was gangbusters...and then CM Punk came out, and I missed you and Ralph," Bert says, capturing the arena’s raw emotion. (25:43)
• On his own impulsive in-ring moment: Bert recounts being “egged on” by security and ending up in the ring, choke-slamming a wrestler. "Every man deserves to lose his virginity to the woman he loves. And to chokeslam a person from a different country. That's all I'll say." (34:57)

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In-Depth Storyline Highlights

Jey Uso’s Eventful Night

• Jey helps Sami Zayn during the chaotic triple threat, reinforcing his position as Raw’s heroic champion.
• Discussion on whether Jey is “taking on too much”—he’s focused on tag titles, helping friends, and defending against Gunther after Money in the Bank.
• Megan: "I think he should be focused on Gunther and only Gunther." (45:27)
• Sam pushes back, celebrating Jey for representing “the guy who's looking out, going: people are tired of seeing Logan Paul and John Cena try to control everything.” (45:46)
• On Jey’s credibility: "I'm done with the narrative that Jey Uso doesn't know how to be a champion." (46:13)

The Women's Division: Drama & Competition

• Liv Morgan Returns

  • Liv’s comeback match with Kairi Sane is interrupted by Roxanne Perez, causing more tension between Liv, Roxanne, and Raquel Rodriguez.
  • Raquel’s loyalty is discussed: "Raquel is a good friend...you have to let her know," says Megan (53:08), but both hosts speculate Raquel might be threatened by Roxanne’s presence.
  • Megan is “team Liv Dom,” firmly against a Dom-Roxanne pairing. (55:06)

• Becky Lynch vs. Lyra Valkyria

  • Rematch for the Intercontinental title is set, with Becky vowing never to challenge Lyra again if she loses—if she wins, Lyra must raise Becky's hand.
  • Megan cheekily: “I think this is so nice of Becky…she’ll make Lyra’s life by letting her raise my hand in victory.” (63:55)
  • Sam, frustrated, counters: "To insult the intercontinental champion, call her like, compared to a fan that gets to be in there with Becky Lynch...She’s become a champion." (64:40)

Judgment Day Turmoil

• Megan questions: "Is Raquel a rat?" for tipping off Liv about Roxanne.
• Sam: "Michael Cole does not have a lot of close friends," when Michael referred to Raquel as a rat. (52:53)
• Finn Balor is described as unusually happy, and both hosts speculate that the drama is only just starting.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “It’s not show friends, it’s show business.” – Sam Roberts on Bronson Reed joining Seth’s faction (06:50)
• “Dirty Dom... his chair aim is all over the map. There’s no telling.” – Sam Roberts on Dominik Mysterio, with Megan joking he knows "exactly what he's doing." (13:30)
• “Seth Rollins now has backup. Maybe he’s the favorite in the whole thing.” – Megan Morant (17:24)
• “Every man deserves to lose his virginity to the woman he loves. And to chokeslam a person from a different country. That’s all I’ll say.” – Bert Kreischer on his in-ring moment (34:57)
• “I'm done with the narrative that Jey Uso doesn't know how to be a champion.” – Sam Roberts (46:13)
• “[Becky Lynch] will never challenge Lyra for that championship again...If she wins, Lyra must raise Becky’s hand in victory.” – Sam Roberts on women’s title stipulation (63:46)
• “Champions don’t have friends. It’s lonely at the top.” – Megan Morant, referencing Cody Rhodes’ learnings (52:20)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Main Event Triple Threat / Faction Dynamics: 01:46–13:30
• CM Punk’s Return/Wrath on Rollins: 16:00–17:24
• Money in the Bank Picture & Analysis: 17:24–20:09
• Bert Kreischer Guest Segment: 22:46–38:08
• Jey Uso’s Title Reign & Future: 42:53–52:20
• Judgment Day/Liv Morgan/Roxanne Perez: 52:49–58:15
• Women’s Division (Becky/Lyra): 61:40–66:39

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Closing Thoughts

Raw Recap successfully captures the intersecting storylines and stakes as WWE careens toward Money in the Bank. The hosts blend sharp analysis, insider insight, and humor, making this episode accessible both to diehards and more casual fans. The guest segment with Bert Kreischer adds energy and illustrates wrestling’s infectious appeal.

Who Should Listen?

Anyone wanting backstage context, creative storyline breakdowns, and a finger on the pulse of WWE’s evolving landscape.

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Transcript

[Bert Kreischer]

David.

[Sam Roberts]

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[Megan Morant]

Let's dive in.

[Sam Roberts]

You know, I love elements. I love elements of all kinds. I used to. You know what my favorite thing in school was? That periodic table full of elements.

[Megan Morant]

What's your favorite periodic element?

[Bert Kreischer]

Bramble.

[Sam Roberts]

Is that one bramble? I think bramble hydrogen is a good one.

[Megan Morant]

All right.

[Sam Roberts]

Right, right. Listen, I'm talking about gold.

[Megan Morant]

Ag.

[Sam Roberts]

Ag. No. You know, why starts with a G. What's the A for? I don't understand. I love story, storyline, elements. I love the fact that the main event of Raw just had everything going on. Right. I love. Here's what I really love, consequences to people's actions. And I felt like when you get three elements in the ring like Finn Balor, Sami Zayn and Seth Rollins, you have this in any era, astronomical triple threat match. Right. This is the stuff that. I mean, imagine those three wrestlers, if you had said 10 years ago would be main event. We just take it for granted now. That's how spoiled we are.

[Megan Morant]

It's just a typical Monday.

[Sam Roberts]

It's just Monday. But 10 years ago, if you had said that those three by different names were going to be main eventing, Monday Night Raw on a triple threat that was like, you know, the greatest. I mean, it was the best three wrestlers in the world, and we just get to see him now. What I love is not only when those three names are put in the ring do we get this triple threat. But in the wwe, when you are a superstar on that level, you've got actions, and actions have consequences. You have stories, you have enemies, you have Just all this stuff happening, and I feel like it all exploded at the end of Monday Night Raw. Right.

[Megan Morant]

Had a lot of colliding.

[Sam Roberts]

Lot of what? Yeah, there was a lot of colliding.

[Megan Morant]

Yeah.

[Sam Roberts]

Okay, so.

[Megan Morant]

So not just physically.

[Sam Roberts]

Right.

[Megan Morant]

But the stories as well.

[Sam Roberts]

Right, right. Going in where one you wouldn't think had anything to do with the other one, but nothing exists in a bubble.

[Megan Morant]

What do we always say?

[Sam Roberts]

Everything's interweaving. Everything counts. Right. Everything counts. Now, of course, we're coming off of Saturday night's main event. Right. And I would say the biggest news in this, what some would call a Paul Heyman faction. I call, by the way. Go ahead.

[Megan Morant]

Did you notice? And I mean, this is. Speaking of everything counts, Paul Heyman's hair looked a little grayer.

[Sam Roberts]

Did it?

[Megan Morant]

I mean, is the stress getting to him?

[Sam Roberts]

People are wondering, or maybe he's just busy.

[Megan Morant]

Could be busy. Could be time to tan.

[Sam Roberts]

But it is at least something worth watching.

[Megan Morant]

I wrote that down in my notebook. Paul's hair a little gray.

[Sam Roberts]

I mean, either he's going to watch this going, megan, you caught something, or oh, no, I have to. Oh, no, Megan, you're making me feel self conscious. So we're coming off of what I think is the biggest thing to happen to that group, which I think is a Seth Rollins faction, not a Paul Heyman faction.

[Megan Morant]

I would agree with you.

[Sam Roberts]

Since the formation on the Monday night after WrestleMania, which is what happened at Saturday night's main event, a new addition to the group, Bronson Reed, joined Seth Rollins, Bron Breaker, and Paul Hayman left.

[Megan Morant]

Me very confused on Saturday night.

[Bert Kreischer]

Sure.

[Megan Morant]

I said, why the heck would Bronson join Seth? Bronson is the one who took out Seth. Make it make sense. And I have to be honest with you.

[Sam Roberts]

Go ahead.

[Megan Morant]

I was kind of mad.

[Sam Roberts]

Are you still mad?

[Megan Morant]

No, I'm not mad.

[Sam Roberts]

I mean, have they made it made sense?

[Megan Morant]

They did make it make sense. Did they? A little bit.

[Sam Roberts]

You know what I mean?

[Megan Morant]

I mean, Seth pointed out the destruction that Bronson Reed can cause, and now he has that in his back pocket.

[Sam Roberts]

Okay, well, this is what I noticed. Paul pointed out the destruction that Bronson caused in Seth's life. I felt like there was not like maybe Seth didn't love the amount of time that Paul Heyman spent emphasizing, hey, remember how bad this guy hurt you? Hey, remember how dangerous this guy is? Remember how much power this guy has over you? I saw it as, who knows Bronson Reed better than Seth Rollins? If we're following the story the way we're meant to be following the story by Seth Rollins words. This is about the future of the industry and who are the best people to be there to make the industry even bigger in the future than it is now. And Seth has said, I mean, he hasn't implied. He has straight up said, I'm the one who has to do this. If not me, then who? Bron Breakker has clearly sipped on that Kool Aid and believes it. And it would appear that Bronson Reed has too. I read it as, I mean, it's a tale as old as time in wrestling. We just happen to be seeing it be played out in front of our eyes now on television that people like Bron Breakker and Bronson Reed and who knows if there's gonna be anybody next looks at Seth and looks at Paul Heyman and goes, they're right. Seth is going to be the future of this thing. They're right. They are going to be in control of this thing. So you make a choice. You either fight city hall or you go, you know what, once we get to the top of the mountain, we'll figure it all out then. But I feel like this is the elevator ride up and everybody else is taking the stairs.

[Megan Morant]

We just join them.

[Sam Roberts]

Just join them. It's business after all. Oh, but you don't get along with Seth Rollins. It's not show friends, it's show business. So this triple threat is made. Right. And as Seth notice.

[Megan Morant]

Sorry, no. Did you notice that Paul referred to Seth as the most generous man I have ever met?

[Sam Roberts]

Okay, no, I didn't notice that. But that's interesting. Roman Reigns not known for his generosity. The Beast not known for his generosity. I mean, CM Punk doesn't seem. Not generous. No, it seems like CM Punk, if you're his friend, he treats you well. If you are not his friend, look out. Maybe less the generous, but he seems generous to his friends.

[Megan Morant]

Met a lot of people to say that Seth is the most generous man he's ever met.

[Sam Roberts]

Yeah, I mean, the whole Samoan family, he managed the Samoan SWAT team. He had the whole dangerous alliance. Beautiful Bobby, you tell me Bobby Eaton wasn't dangerous. I mean, wasn't. Wasn't generous. I guess it wasn't called the generous alliance, it was the dangerous alliance. Yeah, that is. That is interesting. And that's Paul Heyman also believing the Seth Rollins Kool Aid. Usually the shoe is on the other foot that I guess to the people involved in that group, this really is about that future. And to the people outside of the group, they See it as a ego mission where one guy wants to build the future around himself, but one guy wanting to build the future around himself is, like I said, hasn't really been done on television, but is the quintessential pro wrestling story. Yeah, everybody wants to go in there. Ultimately, what was Cody Rhodes story? What was the story?

[Megan Morant]

The face of the industry.

[Sam Roberts]

That's it. That's the story that he wanted to finish, right?

[Megan Morant]

Yes.

[Sam Roberts]

Ultimately it was make this about me. And sometimes that's good and sometimes feels a little scary. So Seth Rollins, right. And even in the way it's phrased when they go, well, the long term plan is for Seth Rollins to be the champion. That feels like bad news you get from a boss. You know what I mean? That feels like that's the guy, right? Like, I don't know that, that feels like, for, for anybody that like works a real job in corporate job that has to go see whoever their middle manager is at raise time. I don't know, I've just been, I've just been working so hard and I feel like I've been, I've been giving more to the team than I'm even asked for and I'm. Yeah, that's just. We really appreciate what you're doing, but we have a different long term plan.

[Megan Morant]

We actually have a plan for that guy to get promoted.

[Sam Roberts]

Like that guy, he whines, he whines about everything. And we heard his cackle. No, no, no, no, no. We like his cackle. He's the long term plan. But we appreciate you anyway, Tata.

[Megan Morant]

So what are you going to do? You're going to attach yourself.

[Sam Roberts]

You got two choices. Either fight it and try to take that guy out, which some of the people on the roster are doing, or if you're a younger guy like a Bronson Reed, if you're a younger guy like a Bron Breaker, you go, no, I like, I, I, I, I think I'm gonna, as another superstar on smackdown might say get in where I fit in. You gotta mean. So we get to this triple threat match, right? We see it's Finn Balor, it's Sami Zayn, it's Seth Rollins and I'm as, I'm watching this, right? I'm going now. Usually the Money in the bank ladder match is about. I don't even know if it's usually but, but in my head, the money in the bank ladder match is about giving somebody an opportunity that either you've been wanting to get that opportunity, but it's never quite gotten there or Somebody that you're like, oh, they weren't even in the world title picture. And now, boom, here we are. Penta is a great example, right? We all love Penta. He's only been here for five months and boom, in one night, catapult you, he could be launched into the World Heavyweight Championship picture, into the WWE Championship.

[Megan Morant]

The other scenario you brought up, I always think of Liv Morgan, right? It was someone the fans wanted her to have. The moment forever, could never quite get there. Wins money in the bank, Boom.

[Sam Roberts]

And as fans, you go like, okay, tell me how you think Liv Morgan gets there. I don't know. There's this person, there's that person. I don't know how Liv gets there.

[Megan Morant]

She gets there with money in the.

[Sam Roberts]

Bank, Money in the bank briefcase. And boom, now we're off to the races.

[Megan Morant]

Changes lives, right?

[Sam Roberts]

And everything changes forever. Because now if it's done right, and it's not always done right, but if it's done right, you're in a different conversation. Except in this match, Sami Zayn, Seth Rollins, Finn Balor, you got three guys who, no matter what universe you are in, are world championship level people. They're there, all three of them. If you told me any of those three people were going to be the world champion this calendar year, I would 100% believe you. People have been waiting since Finn Balor held that universal championship for one day for Finn to have his next run on top. And we are. It's been, I mean, God knows how many years, and we are still waiting for that. We have been waiting this, this whole story, watching Sami Zayn rise almost to the top, to that penultimate level without ever getting to that ultimate level. We've been waiting. Sami Zayn has expressed that as his goal to be a world champion.

[Megan Morant]

There's a lot of us who thought we were going to see it in Montreal, right?

[Sam Roberts]

And as Seth Rollins has gone, lost the title and watched it go, whether it goes to Damian Priest, whether it goes to Gunther, whether it goes to Jey uso. That's a title that he wants associated with himself. And honestly, it's been long enough that it's been off his waist. Then I kind of think more people associate that title with. With Gunther than they do Seth Rollins.

[Megan Morant]

I hear you on that.

[Sam Roberts]

You know what I mean?

[Megan Morant]

Valid point. Not, I am not one of those people we talked about in the last.

[Sam Roberts]

Show, but now, so. So now I'm watching this, going like, this is interesting because now you've got one of these people who. When are they going to get their next shot at a world title. And you've got them all in there. And absolute chaos erupts. Of course we have faction associated human beings in that ring. Everybody in that ring has allies. And a triple threat match, by definition is no dq. So, you know, at first I go, how could Sami Zayn not see this coming? When. When the Rollins goons, the Braun brothers, Bronson Reed and Braun Breaker, they were there the whole time when they shoot, when, yeah, when they pull Sammy out, it's like, yeah, of course that's going to happen. There's no disqualification this match. How did Sami Zay not see this? Oh, he did see this coming. Here comes Jay USO in to even this score. That's right. Because just as quickly as this faction has been built around Seth, enemies to the faction have been built as well. So we've got. Now Sammy and Jay and Bronson decide to bring. Wow.

[Megan Morant]

We don't know if he decided.

[Sam Roberts]

Dirty Dom shows up.

[Megan Morant]

That's his brother.

[Sam Roberts]

Allies. Brothers. That's right. And dirty Dom, who has done this before, look, if there's anything. And you can take this back to Becky lynch versus Liv Morgan, you can take it back as far as you want. Dom is an extremely skilled athlete. His chair aim is all over the map. Okay. There's no telling what's right. And that's true. I mean, it's not like you're a major league baseball fan.

[Megan Morant]

Yes, yes.

[Sam Roberts]

Who's your team?

[Megan Morant]

The Chicago White Sox.

[Sam Roberts]

I'm sorry. Shouldn't have even asked. However. However. That one was a softball. However, not everybody's a pitcher. Right. Because not everybody can throw it that accuracy.

[Megan Morant]

Listen, the whites doesn't even have one. Don't even have one.

[Sam Roberts]

You don't have one at all. That's right. That's right. But some of them can run real good. Some of them can hit real good. It's just you have different skills.

[Megan Morant]

Yeah.

[Sam Roberts]

Dom, he can't slide a chair to throw his life to save his life. Go ahead.

[Megan Morant]

I think that's very debatable. I think Dominic knows exactly what he's doing.

[Sam Roberts]

You think pinpoint accuracy.

[Megan Morant]

He likes to go out there. Oh, I don't understand time zones. Oh, I don't understand who's giving me my nuggets. Oh, I don't understand that. It might be a bad look if Roxanne Perez is massaging my shoulder. He knows what he's doing.

[Sam Roberts]

But here's the thing. When you're built like Dom, in terms of the aesthetic, right?

[Megan Morant]

He's gorgeous.

[Sam Roberts]

Gorgeous. When you're a gorgeous dude who happens to be really good at professional wrestling.

[Megan Morant]

He's the Intercontinental Champion.

[Sam Roberts]

That's what I'm saying. That's the workhorse title, okay? Dom's the workhorse. Maybe some of the academic stuff escapes you because you don't need to know it, right? Have you ever met somebody that's like this beautiful human being aesthetically? And maybe they're not, you know, the.

[Megan Morant]

Most, not all there. The lights aren't all on.

[Sam Roberts]

You see what I'm saying? But they don't need it because they have other skill sets. Maybe they're super good at, at, at being good looking and also have this, they're great at horseback riding, whatever it is. Dom, incredibly charismatic, good looking guy, great wrestler, super good at pro wrestling. Not great at time zones. Not great at maybe not understanding the female psyche. He's not the best at that. I think he would admit that. And one of the worst chair sliders that we've ever encountered in WWE history. And I've seen them all. I'm a historian.

[Megan Morant]

You are a historian. I just think there might be something to dig a little deeper into.

[Sam Roberts]

And so unfortunately, as Finn Balor is trying to get that chair. Stop. Boom. Seth Rollins wins. Now you wouldn't think, you wouldn't realize it going with Raw going off the air because even though we were told CM Punk wasn't in the building, look at my eyes, what do you see? Here comes CM Punk's music playing. The goons are ready to attack him in the entryway, and boom. CM Punk jumps out of the crowd, lays out Seth Rollins, and we end with CM Punk being triumphant. Now I think this is a strong message, even though ultimately the lesson of the day is Seth Rollins is going to that money in the bank. Seth Rollins, who I believe in the history of the Money in the bank briefcase is the greatest threat that any sitting champion could possibly have. When it comes to that briefcase, there is nobody that has utilized that briefcase in a more spectacular and effective way than Seth Rollins. Ever, ever, ever. He defines it. That said, he's got a demon on his back, okay? He's got, he's got CM Punk, who is now hell bent on making sure that Seth Rollins is not successful in his life. Like something, something has snapped and CM Punk has gone to that other place. Will he be effective? I don't know. He didn't keep him out of the Money in the bank ladder match.

[Megan Morant]

And Seth has backup.

[Sam Roberts]

And Seth now has backup. Set. Now has.

[Megan Morant]

You remember, on The Road to WrestleMania, Seth made it his mission to make sure he could ruin CM Punk's life. Seth wasn't traveling around with backup.

[Sam Roberts]

He had a plan. And we sat here, right, and we said, I know I did. I don't remember we had on this or not Sam wrestling, Probably both. But I know you and I had the conversation. Why is Seth not more upset about putting CM Punk in the main event of WrestleMania? There was a plan.

[Megan Morant]

Yes.

[Sam Roberts]

Seth had his ducks in a row. Seth seems to always have his ducks in a row. Right now, Seth joins Penta, La Knight, and Solo Sikoa in the Money in the bank ladder match. Could be Jacob Fatu in there. Who knows who else is going to join these guys? But if I had to put money on this right now, what is more compelling in terms of watching television than the idea of now? Seth Rollins stands there with Paul Heyman, with Brom Breaker, with Bronson Reed, and he's holding the Money in the bank briefcase.

[Megan Morant]

Can Seth Rollins be synonymous with the World Heavyweight title and the Money in the bank briefcase?

[Sam Roberts]

I think he can.

[Megan Morant]

I think so, too.

[Sam Roberts]

I think he can. And I mean, imagine that where Seth is like, I don't have to do anything. I don't have to wrestle. I don't have to threaten anybody. All I have to do is wait. Wait and figure out when the next heist of the century is, because I'm the one that's gonna cash in.

[Megan Morant]

And it is crowded. I mean, Jay is the World Heavyweight champion. Just defended it. We saw against Logan Pa. And I've.

[Sam Roberts]

Got a lot to say about Jey Uso.

[Megan Morant]

But then Guenther's next in line.

[Sam Roberts]

June 9th, which is the Monday after Money in the bank, which Jey USO already has his dance card filled in for that show.

[Megan Morant]

So it's crowded.

[Sam Roberts]

Absolutely. And I mean. And that's fine. It doesn't matter anymore because Seth has said that he wants what's next after Gunther and Jay. He wants what's next. If he can get that briefcase, none of nothing matters anymore.

[Megan Morant]

He can get it whenever he wants.

[Sam Roberts]

I think Seth's gonna get the briefcase. I think he's gonna get the briefcase. That's. That's after seeing. And I don't know, maybe my thought will change after seeing who else is in there. You know, I mean, the fact that we're getting Penta now in a ladder match in WWE is something spectacular. You know, I. I think La Knight's gonna be that favorite. La Knight fits that mold of the person where it's like, fans just love this guy.

[Bert Kreischer]

But.

[Sam Roberts]

But what's his path to the main event?

[Megan Morant]

And don't underestimate Solo Sokoa.

[Sam Roberts]

Low key maybe. Smartest guy on the roster with yes. How does he keep himself on top? I don't know. This ain't Smackdown Recap.

[Megan Morant]

Because he's out there recruiting.

[Sam Roberts]

Yes, he is. He's always got another trick up his sleeve. So I don't know. It's going to be great. But a spectacular way to end Monday night Raw. Jey USO was a big part of it. I want to talk about Jey uso. The Judgment day was a big part of it. I want to talk about the judgment day, but what I would love to do is get to the arena floor where the machine Bert Kreischer is still with us. We had some technical difficulties. We don't have Tom Segura, but we do have our first guest here on Raw. Recap, guys. Folks, I got to tell you about car gurus, okay? When you make a big purchase, it should come with confidence, not confusion. You shouldn't be going out there worried that you're not going to get the best deal with too much in your mind. You certainly shouldn't be worried that you don't know what you're talking about. Cargurus takes all of that out of the picture and leaves you feeling confident about your purchase. Because when it comes to your big deal, you got to make sure you get the best deal. Ok? You got to walk into a dealership knowing what you're talking about. It's very, very intimidating. And honestly, getting yourself in the front seat of an automobile should be an amazing day for you. Car gurus makes that a reality. They connect you with trusted dealerships when you're ready, ensuring a transparent and hassle free buying process. With over 4 million listings, CarGurus has more car listings than any other major online automotive marketplace in the United States of America. It's no wonder similar wet similar web estimated traffic data shows Cargurus is the number one most visited car shopping site there is. Buy or sell your next car today with [e-mail] so go to CarGurus.com to make sure that your big deal is the best deal. That's C A R G U r u s cargurus.com welcome our guest on the RAW recap, the one and only bear that's on this show, Bert Kreischer. Now, Bert, I know because I was listening and I know that you you had to convince Tom to finally go to an episode of Monday Night Raw. I think he might have been somewhat scared because of all the things that he said about wrestling fans in the past, but he decided to actually go. And then at the last minute, apparently. Why couldn't he hang with you in the arena?

[Bert Kreischer]

It's. It's. I mean, it happens to all of us. His private jet was scheduled at 10:30.

[Sam Roberts]

Oh.

[Bert Kreischer]

And he was like, I gotta save a little cash and get off on 10:30. I can't push it by 15 minutes. Now, me, I fly commercial coach, usually back of the plane with the regular people. Wow. I'm relatable. Tom's not. Wow. But yeah. So Tom's on a private jet right now, so.

[Sam Roberts]

Happens to all of us. Yeah.

[Megan Morant]

Look, I mean, even. Even Logan Paul did an interview for this very show on a private jet. So Tom has no excuse whatsoever.

[Sam Roberts]

Logan Paul is more relatable than Tom Segura.

[Bert Kreischer]

You know, here's the deal. Tom is like getting. Can we first on this. Yeah. Tom's like getting your wife to have small steps. It's small steps. Yeah. And right now. Right now, we have a pinky playing with the rim. Getting him here. You. You know for a fact, getting him here was a struggle. And I'm. I'm being serious. Like, he was afraid that I'll be. Real wrestlers did not like him backstage.

[Sam Roberts]

They didn't.

[Bert Kreischer]

No. Oh, no, there were. I heard. I heard. I mean, no one. No one told me. I'm not going to say anything. Five wrestlers were not happy he was here, were they?

[Sam Roberts]

I mean, you don't have to say names.

[Bert Kreischer]

Vocal. They were vocal. Big names. No one's telling me names. And I heard on the walkout, I get the names. I can tell you who I guess it is.

[Sam Roberts]

But big names, probably. You think big names.

[Bert Kreischer]

No, it's a four letter name. It sounds like rad, but, I mean, I'm just guessing who. I don't think so. I tried to adjust because I hung out with Chad last time I was here, and I was like, yo, can I introduce you to my friend Tom? And he was like, yes.

[Megan Morant]

Oh.

[Bert Kreischer]

But, yeah, it was. And I'll be honest with you, listen, I love Tommy, you know, I love Tommy, but getting him here, it's. It is genuinely not his scene. You know, he's not a public amendments, public bathroom kind of guy. That's not his vibe. But when the matches started, he lost himself. He looked. When. I'm telling you right now, that guy's a wrestling fan. I don't give a. What he says. When they threw so the sport match of the night was Chad Gable. It was. It was a Tag Gables match. And they got over on the Pat McAfee's table. And when that happened, Tom lost his model. He lost his mind. And they moved us down four seats, and Tom was out of his head. I swear to God. The only thing I regret, he did have to leave early for his private jet. But, dude, the last match of the night was gangbusters. It was. Sammy, it was so good. It was. And then CM Punk came out at the end, and I was being pulled up here to do this, and I missed you and Ralph. CM Punk, dude, everything about this is tough, you know?

[Sam Roberts]

Yes.

[Bert Kreischer]

He's just.

[Sam Roberts]

I don't.

[Bert Kreischer]

I think it's just disconnected since he got so wealthy. So right now he's getting back to what it was like to be a regular person.

[Sam Roberts]

Right.

[Bert Kreischer]

And go have regular fun. Dude, we had a blast. We were sitting in front of Walker Flock of Play.

[Sam Roberts]

I saw that. I saw that when you guys were all like, by the way, here's how I know that Tom was having a good time, because usually, you know, he likes to kind of set the pace and let's laugh at Bert, right? Bert's gonna. We're gonna. Bert's gonna tell the crazy stories, and we're gonna laugh at Bert. But what happened? You chug the beer, and Tom goes, I guess this. I guess this is what we're doing. And Tom chugs the beer, and I'm like, yes, Bert, this is because you figured it out. I mean. I mean, for somebody who lives your life as this, like, everything is a party. That is professional wrestling. And Tom was in your world.

[Bert Kreischer]

Dude, here's the deal. Here's the deal. A match is just like a football game. At its best, it is just as good as six points down with two minutes to go. At its best, when you see great, great matches at their best, as entertaining as anything. The end of that last match, when everyone's going, I mean, and then, dude, it was so crazy. You can't deny it. It's undeniable. And what's so funny is, you know, Tom is not someone like Tom's Ozempic. He doesn't want to have fun, right? He doesn't want to have a good time. He'd rather go home, get on his phone, scroll Instagram, and I can be honest with you. When he killed that beer, he did say, my Ozempic is going to make me pay for this. I'll be throwing up. He did. He did. He said that yeah. He goes, I'm on his epic. I can't chug beers. I go, just chug it anyway. And he killed it. And then he's like, I'm going to go throw up right now.

[Sam Roberts]

Wow. And did he just start doing Ozempic like with the Netflix show, or was he been doing Ozempic for a little bit?

[Bert Kreischer]

Nuts. Wow. Dude. He was doing Oz epic before they called him a zempic.

[Sam Roberts]

Wow. He's a lab rat.

[Bert Kreischer]

Let's. By the way, hold on. He was doing Oz epic when no one had any study trials.

[Megan Morant]

He is the trial.

[Sam Roberts]

Yeah, he was the trial.

[Bert Kreischer]

Okay. And he's gonna see this. He's gonna be pissed. He legit was trying to get me on his epic today. Like, he was like, buddy, get on it. It's a shot once a week. You lose the weight, you stay off the weight. You're not as hungry, you feel full early. But the problem with Ozempic is it takes the zest and joy out of life where you overeat and feel sick and throw up in your mouth while you sleep. That's the part of life I like.

[Sam Roberts]

Yeah, no, I know you do. And I've got to say, and I mentioned it to Megan while we were watching tonight when you were sitting there with the War Raiders and your shirt popped right off. I have to tell you, dude, like, I know you were telling a story about wanting to get into the ring the last time you were at RAW and. And WWE and Triple H and everyone being like, no, like, from a physical. We can't. It's too much of a liability is what they said. And, dude, just you shouting shirtless with the War Raiders like you were. I don't. You got to watch it back. You were so red that I was.

[Bert Kreischer]

Worried about you, buddy. You would see the marks on my chest and on my back. They stopped me so hard that I literally, like, hurt. It was incredible. Hold on, hold on. Can I real quick talk to you? Did you see the last match I was at Minneapolis?

[Sam Roberts]

Yeah.

[Bert Kreischer]

Did you see the stuff that wasn't filmed?

[Sam Roberts]

Yeah, we. Yeah, we. I saw it, like, later when. When like, video came out of you choke. Slamming people, bro.

[Bert Kreischer]

Yeah. So you. That was the hardest time laugh today is. I think it's. Austin got in. I think it was Austin got in and started taunting me. And he goes, what's up, fat boy? Shut your mouth, fat boy. Tommy was crying, laughing. This is really good for Tom in the kind of way that it's good for Tom, you know, with. I mean, I'M not the soft plug, us. But with our vodka porosos, right? When you get Tom loose and you get, like, you know, 10 milligram tom and he starts having a good time, that's. It's the basting for him because he's, you know, some people are introverts, some people are extroverts, and Tom is a real, genuine introvert. And this is not his speed. But, man, I'm telling you, he was through the roof tonight. He had a blast.

[Megan Morant]

Did Tom yeet tonight?

[Bert Kreischer]

Yeah.

[Sam Roberts]

Did he yeet?

[Bert Kreischer]

No. We pissed during the yeet, and we hung out with Titus. He goes, who the hell is that? I go, it's Titus. He's got the biggest hands in the world.

[Sam Roberts]

Yeah.

[Bert Kreischer]

I was like. And Tom did not know who it was. He goes, sir, can we get a picture hang out?

[Sam Roberts]

You told. I was listening to. It was a great recap that you did on Two Bears One Cave, which is the podcast that you do with Tom, and you kind of broke down your last trip to Monday Night Raw, and you were talking about the choke slams. Because I go. Like, when I first saw it as a fan, I'm like, well, if Bert was going to choke slam people, why isn't he choke slamming people on tv? And the story that you told on that podcast, and tell me if it really is true, is that that was not approved, that you were not supposed to jump over the barricade, that you got nervous and started whipping your belt at them. And then just in the most Bert Kreischer fashion possible, we're just going with the flow. And somehow ended up in the ring, even though they specifically told you, you cannot get in the ring.

[Bert Kreischer]

Yeah, true. I told Triple H. When we got there, I talked to Triple H, and I told him. I was like, yo, I want to take a bump. And he was like, like, you've got to come to Orlando for, like, a week. We did that with Bad Bunny. You gotta, like, jelly roll. You gotta, like, train. We can't just put you in the ring. You're gonna get physically hurt. You're 52. And I was like, I think I could do it. He was like, yeah, well, it's not gonna happen. And Leanne's with me the whole time, and she's like, you're not getting in the ring. I'm so happy. This isn't happening. This isn't happening. So we do the whole show. We. And it was great. We did the thing with Otis. We killed a beer, had the belt. Everything was awesome. It was so Fun. All of it. Matches were amazing. And I know CM Punk. I know him. I know him. And I seen him earlier. I said, are you doing something tonight? He's like, no. And then at the end, him and Seth Rollins have their thing, and all of a sudden, grace of all time out, and. And they. They slam Punk. And I'm watching, and I know CM Punk. I'm not. I'm not doing this as, like. As like a fan or like, anything. Entertainment, Sports entertainment. I know CM Punk. And I'm like, well, man, this isn't how I saw the story going that Pat McAfee's gone, the camera crew's gone, everyone's gone. Only the fat bouncers are left, Right? The fat ones. I'm so sorry, sir. I'm so sorry. I'm sorry. I didn't mean you. But, like. Anyway, he's sitting right in front of me anyway, and then we can. Once his name comes out and starts going, what's up, fat boy? What are you going to do now?

[Sam Roberts]

Theory.

[Bert Kreischer]

So confused. I was so confused. And then the ones. The one bouncer goes, jump over, man. Fight him.

[Sam Roberts]

What?

[Bert Kreischer]

I was like, huh? I was like, I don't think that's how this works. I think I got to run this by Triple H. Yeah, like, no, no, fight him. Get over. So I climb over, by the way.

[Sam Roberts]

By the way, you know, and you know, because you literally do arenas, you know when you're talking to WWE personnel and you know when you're talking to just arena staff, that's just saying a thing.

[Bert Kreischer]

The dude who grew up in St.

[Sam Roberts]

Paul.

[Bert Kreischer]

And he's like, get over. Jump over. And I was like, wait, hold on. So I jump over. And then the look in his eyes threw me off because I was like, I don't. I don't know you, and I don't know why this is happening, but I do know CM Punk. And you know that the only person's name I dropped backstage was CM Punk. CM Punk here. Where's CM Punk? Is Cody Rhodes here? Hey, guys, the two guys who are in WWE is Cody Rhodes and CM Punk. Does anyone know those guys? And I watch people's air get walked by. I swear to God, Seth Rollins really doesn't like me. Walked by me twice and Mad Dog Sam. No kfab. I'm telling. For real. Seth Rollins does hang down like me, and he hates Tom. Is that the name?

[Sam Roberts]

Good.

[Bert Kreischer]

Anyway, we walked into Seth Rollins dressing room while he was getting ready, and we took a piss in his. And he was like, the. Anyway, so I'm giving away too much. I'm so sorry. Anyway, so they came over, and I just pull my belt off to defend myself. I don't know what's gonna happen.

[Sam Roberts]

You're in over your head.

[Bert Kreischer]

Yep. And then all of a sudden, CM Punk's like, get in the ring. And I'm like, huh? And by the way, I had heard Cody Rhodes say to me, yeah, man, like, we talk to each other sometimes. And I was like. And CM goes, get in the ring. So I get in the ring, he's like, you show up, salmon. And I was like, I think so. And so he just put his throat in my hand. And I heard CM Punk go, one, two, human. And, brother, I will just say every man deserves to lose his virginity to the woman he loves. And to choke slam a person from a different country. That's all I'll say.

[Sam Roberts]

That is beautiful. That really is beautiful. And it really is also. Again, it's Bert Kreiser lore that of course, somebody goes, hey, can you do a full split? You're like, of course I can. Hey, can you run a marathon? Of course I can. Hey, can you choke slam a wrestler? Yeah. Yeah, of course I can.

[Megan Morant]

Well, none of this would have ever happened if you were on Ozempic, because it all started because he called you fat.

[Sam Roberts]

That's right. Good point.

[Bert Kreischer]

Tom's trying to get those epic about, live your life. We're all going to die.

[Sam Roberts]

Yeah.

[Bert Kreischer]

What do you want to die jabbing yourself once a week when you want to die? Living your life? Let me tell you something, man. I got to give you shout. You remember that video of that guy crying when he talked to the professor wrestlers? It's like, you guys give your body, man. I don't like that that gets mocked as much as it does still real to me. It's still real to me. I am literally sitting there watching tonight going like. I mean, chat. Chad Gable split his head open.

[Sam Roberts]

Yeah.

[Bert Kreischer]

Tommy looked at me and he goes, buddy, he's bleeding. And I went, yeah, he was. No, he's bleeding. He kicked his head. He's bleeding. And he's. And then they fought him a towel in the ring, and Tom's like, dude, he's hurt. He's actually hurt. That is how real it is. It is like when you kick a man in the throat. I don't know. I'm selling ice cream to Eskimos. Is that the.

[Sam Roberts]

I mean, that's right.

[Bert Kreischer]

You're watching this already. You already know how great.

[Sam Roberts]

No, but people like to hear it. People like to hear it from guys like you who associate with people like Tom Segura who are not friends of this world. You see what I'm saying? The fact that you are as in as you are, I think is. Is why it's music to all of our ears. You're in our hearts. By the way, anybody that's watching this that also likes comedy, now that you know that Bert Kreischer is a real one and you want to see what he's doing, Lucky is streaming right now on Netflix. It's fantastic. You should check out the special. Bert.

[Bert Kreischer]

Thank you.

[Sam Roberts]

I appreciate you.

[Bert Kreischer]

Bad Thoughts, Tom's series is streaming right now on. On Netflix. And if you like. If you like professional wrestling, you're gonna love Bad Thoughts, dude.

[Sam Roberts]

Bad Thoughts is. So.

[Bert Kreischer]

I'm just telling you if, if you're. I don't know the right way to say this, but, like, if you're. If you're a cynic. Yeah. And you like negative, then don't come here.

[Sam Roberts]

Right.

[Bert Kreischer]

But if you like to disappear for a little bit, if you. If you just want to chant just a. Like, if you want to get into something and lose yourself, like, if you like roller coasters, you're gonna love wrestling. It's so fun. We had such a great time tonight. And my buddy Tom Segura, who is a penny pinching millionaire, he is Scrooge McStock.

[Sam Roberts]

Right. Cheap.

[Bert Kreischer]

He had a great time tonight. He and he. And he will say the same things when we do a podcast with number one designer in the world, James Purse next week. But he'll say the same thing. He had a blast. He had a blast. It was so fun to share with him.

[Sam Roberts]

Awesome, man. Well, I love being on this journey with you, your wrestling fan journey. I feel like we're on the road. We got to talk to you as this thing evolves.

[Bert Kreischer]

I hate that my daughter's birthday is June 7th. That's so badly. Want to watch that match in L. A.

[Sam Roberts]

Bring her.

[Megan Morant]

That's Rusev day.

[Sam Roberts]

Bring her. And it's on Rusev Day of all days. Bring her.

[Bert Kreischer]

I got. We're going to surprise her for her 21st birthday. I'm pretty sure she doesn't watch this podcast, so I could say that.

[Sam Roberts]

Okay. Okay. Well, hopefully she does not. Burt, you are the best. We appreciate you so much.

[Bert Kreischer]

I said this thing. Do you know Sam Roberts? Sam, you know for a fact I was your first fan, bro.

[Sam Roberts]

Burt was on. Bert was supportive of his ego. Bert was supportive of me. When I was confused as to why anybody would Be supportive of me before you were lit.

[Bert Kreischer]

I'm a day one ride or die.

[Sam Roberts]

Yeah you are dude. Yeah you are. And I can't tell you how much I appreciate it man.

[Bert Kreischer]

And.

[Sam Roberts]

And you're the best, dude. You are the best.

[Bert Kreischer]

Thank you guys.

[Sam Roberts]

Thank you.

[Bert Kreischer]

We get a pub sub. I love you guys.

[Sam Roberts]

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[Bert Kreischer]

Is full of tours.

[Sam Roberts]

But you don't choose a Toyota truck to follow. Follow the beaten path. You choose it to find the places in between the detours where each adventure pulls you toward the next. And wrong turns turn out right. So why would you ever take a tour when you could take a detour? Toyota trucks. You gotta love the enthusiasm. Bert Kreischer, thank you so much for joining us. I love, I love seeing new fans form. That's the energy I get from Burton. Burt's 100% right. The best thing about pro wrestling is just forgetting yourself, just letting yourself go. I feel like we are within an arm's length of Bert Kreischer becoming a wrestling T shirt guy. That's the next step in all of this. Even though he's known for being shirtless when he's not shirtless, wearing a wrestling T shirt because you're just Celebrating it wherever you go.

[Megan Morant]

That's with the shirt.

[Sam Roberts]

Yes.

[Megan Morant]

Before you know it, he's got a basement just like yours.

[Sam Roberts]

Exactly right. Maybe a replica championship. Good news for him. By the way, the Memorial Day sale going on at WWE Shop continues on. If you are watching this or listening to it the day it comes out, then it goes all the way up until 11:59pm okay. And, and, and they have everything. There's 40 up to 40% off savings right now on. They got like the, the, the big old championship, the WWE Big Gold that's on sale right now. That's right. That's exactly right. The Austin 316 T shirt. Of course they got toy championships. Don't forget, don't forget, don't forget. There's all kinds of new Superstar tees up right now at WWE Shop. Thanks to fanatics. They got the Jacob Fatu shirt. They have the new one that Jay was wearing tonight.

[Megan Morant]

Four letters, two words. One word, one word.

[Sam Roberts]

There it is.

[Megan Morant]

I was all excited about that.

[Sam Roberts]

I know the. And they put on the shirt. So don't even worry about that. And of course, maybe the greatest wrestling T shirt of all time, Ron Cena. The farewell to Ron Cena T shirt that R Truth was sporting on Saturday night's main event. All available now at WWE Shop. Go ahead, go check it out. And speaking of, I wanted to talk about Jay uso. Okay. Because Jey USO comes out, here's the first question I have for you.

[Megan Morant]

The best though, when he's yeeting with a young fan.

[Sam Roberts]

That's. I mean, any better entrance, it's right up there with Brett giving his glasses to a kid. Oh, you know what I mean? It's those things like all you wanted to do. When I was growing up as a wrestling fan, the biggest dream I could think of and this up Until I was 15 years old, the biggest dream I could think of is Bret Hart giving me his sunglasses. It's all I wanted out of life. I bought a pair. I never got it. But. But now if I'm growing up now, if I was that kid now all I would want to do is be the kid. Plus, what's great about this is to get Bret Hart sunglasses, you had to be sitting front row. I'm not green T shirt guy. Okay. I didn't know as a kid how you even got to sit in the front row. That was way.

[Megan Morant]

This is sitting anywhere.

[Sam Roberts]

Right. I was up in 201.

[Megan Morant]

I don't even know where he's going to enter.

[Sam Roberts]

He comes in from the top. You see my Saturday night's main event?

[Megan Morant]

No.

[Sam Roberts]

So you could be sitting there in the 1000s, the 2000s. All of a sudden he's like, you want to. You want to do this? It's the greatest thing. It's the greatest thing, but okay, that's part of it, right? Coming up with all these wonderful new ways to enter the ring. He's helping Sami Zayn in this triple threat match. He's got this grudge, whatever it is, against the Seth Rollins, Brom Breaker, Brunson Reed faction. So he's dealing with the Seth Rollins faction. He's helping Sami Zayn. He's now in the main event of Money in the bank, teaming with Cody Rhodes against Logan Paul and John Cena. And, oh, yeah, then Gunther waits for him on the Monday after Money in the Bank, Gunther interrupts his promo. Right. Jay's talking about the tag team match at Money in the Bank. Gunther interrupts the promo.

[Megan Morant]

Is this what Jay should be talking about? Should he be thinking about.

[Sam Roberts]

That's what I was going to ask.

[Megan Morant]

Match. Or should he be thinking ahead to Gunter?

[Sam Roberts]

Do you think Jay's got too much on his plate?

[Megan Morant]

Yes.

[Sam Roberts]

You do?

[Megan Morant]

Yes, I do.

[Sam Roberts]

Yes. Or yeet.

[Megan Morant]

Yeet.

[Sam Roberts]

Okay, okay. You think? Well, listen, but everybody talks about how much weight on the shoulders a champion has to have. It's almost expected for a champion to carry this type of weight. Do you think that he is carrying the appropriate amount of weight, or do you think that he is jumped into the deep end to try to prove himself and he's doing too much too soon?

[Megan Morant]

Too much too soon. He didn't necessarily jump into the deep end with this Cody Rhodes situation. That was sort of thrust upon him.

[Sam Roberts]

Yes, to an extent.

[Megan Morant]

But I think he should be focused on Gunter and only Gunter.

[Sam Roberts]

Here's what I'll say about Gunther, okay?

[Megan Morant]

Because all that matters is that he remains the World Heavyweight champion. Right? It's nice to help your friend Sami Zayn, but does that help you retain the title?

[Sam Roberts]

But you're the top guy. You're the guy who's representing wrestling. You're the guy who's looking out, going. People are tired of seeing people like Logan Paul and John Cena try to control everything.

[Megan Morant]

But what about a guy like Guenther?

[Sam Roberts]

What about a guy like Gunter?

[Megan Morant]

And people aren't tired of seeing a guy like Gunter control anything. And is he out there trying to help people, help his friends?

[Sam Roberts]

No. He's a selfish guy. He's a so.

[Megan Morant]

And he made a good champion.

[Sam Roberts]

Okay. All Right. I'm glad you brought that up because Gunther came out and told Jay uso, oh, this being a champion thing doesn't come naturally to you. As of today, this moment, put it down in history. I am done with the narrative that Jey uso doesn't know how to be a champion. I'm done with the narrative that being a champion doesn't come easily to Jey Uso, doesn't come naturally to Jey Uso. Jey Uso is not a real champion. Jey Uso defended the title against Seth Rollins. 1 Jey Uso defended the title Against Logan Paul won. Jey Uso beat Gunther for the championship at WrestleMania. Had a stadium full of people going nuts, by the way, before this, Jey uso took the tag team championship and made it so important in WWE that as the defending champion, he main evented a WrestleMania with the tag team championship. I. This, this is something that, that. That you could have brought up, like, right after Jey uso won the Royal Rumble. Really? You think he's gonna be the world champion? You think he's the world champion?

[Bert Kreischer]

There's so many other people.

[Sam Roberts]

You think Jay uso, we're over. We're done with it. What evidence since Jay has won the championship is there that Jay shouldn't be the champion? He's had good. He had a great match with Seth Rollins.

[Megan Morant]

You did.

[Sam Roberts]

He had good match with Logan Paul on Saturday night's main event.

[Megan Morant]

He did.

[Sam Roberts]

He stepped right up to John Cena. When he stepped up to John Cena, there was no. There wasn't. There wasn't. There was nothing in his eyes. It was pure confidence.

[Megan Morant]

And I'm not saying that he.

[Sam Roberts]

And Gunther comes out and he goes, you don't understand being a champion. And Logan Paul, of all people, who's been wrestling for, you know, two lunchables worth or lunch leaves. I'm sorry. Logan Paul tells Jay uso, you're not a real champion. No more of it. What? I mean, how many times, how long do you have to be a champion? How many times do you have to defend the title before people go, you are the champion and you are defining your reign the way you see fit. What on earth about Jake? And then. And then they go like this. Well, if you're the champion, you shouldn't be helping Sami Zayn. Well, he hasn't lost it yet.

[Megan Morant]

Yet.

[Sam Roberts]

So then why are we sitting there, like, counting the days?

[Megan Morant]

He doesn't. He doesn't belong as champion. I'm in agreement with you.

[Sam Roberts]

He beat the guy who had the.

[Megan Morant]

Belt, which means that he.

[Sam Roberts]

He won the Royal Rumble.

[Megan Morant]

Should still be.

[Sam Roberts]

And then he's defended it multiple times.

[Megan Morant]

In lockstep with you right there. But is it with all of this going on Z, does he need to help so many people out as well?

[Sam Roberts]

Bro, it's nice that you're the champion, okay?

[Megan Morant]

Nice that he's doing it.

[Sam Roberts]

They're a good guy.

[Megan Morant]

Smarter, not harder.

[Sam Roberts]

No, a good guy needs to main event money in the bank to team with Cody Rhodes. If you're Jey uso, you should be the type of champion that people buy tickets to see. And people are going to buy tickets to see Cody Rhodes and Jey uso together with. Why? Because they're so damn engaging, okay? That's what a champion does. A champion.

[Megan Morant]

Because you're hoping we can see the press conference too.

[Sam Roberts]

I mean, the glory. That is the Jay uso, Cody Rhodes friendship and tag team. That's the press conference where Yeet was born. For all intents and purposes, this made.

[Megan Morant]

All of those children's dreams come true.

[Sam Roberts]

And Jay's. I don't think Jay becomes the champion. I don't think he with that. But that's my point is that without the entrance through the crowd, without Jay being involved over here and over there, without Jay doing so many things that are atypical of a champion, Jay doesn't build the momentum that is required to become the champion. Jay's not Gunther, Jay's not Logan, Paul, and thank God for that.

[Megan Morant]

All I'm saying is when you have a threat as dangerous as Gunter and Seth Rollins awaiting you at any moment.

[Sam Roberts]

This is what a champion don't know.

[Megan Morant]

If it's the smartest thing to help your friends. That's it.

[Sam Roberts]

This is what a champion does. What's in front of what's in front of me today? What's in front of me today, you.

[Megan Morant]

Can'T be thinking about June 9, right? Because it is May 27.

[Sam Roberts]

When does Tom Brady start thinking about the Super Bowl?

[Megan Morant]

The next day.

[Sam Roberts]

Right. That we had Tyrese Halliburton, which we shouldn't be mentioning his name right now because there's a lot of Knicks fans that are mad at us about that.

[Megan Morant]

He's a big fan of the show.

[Sam Roberts]

But he said, yeah, the game's in there somewhere. But really, when we touch down in New York, when we walk into Madison Square Garden, that's when I'll be thinking about it.

[Megan Morant]

He was so locked in on the interview.

[Sam Roberts]

You know why Gunther is thinking about his match with Jey uso weeks in advance because Gunther's not the champion. Jay is. That's how champions act. Jay's got a lot on his plate.

[Megan Morant]

Gunther don't think he should be taking on other people's problems.

[Sam Roberts]

Whose problems?

[Megan Morant]

Sami Zayn's.

[Sam Roberts]

If he's the world champion. If Jay USO is the world champion, then he should be representing his brand and his company. And if there is a problem within that brand, the Raw brand, and that problem is Seth Rollins and Bron Breakker and Bronson Reed, then shouldn't Jey USO be going? No, I'm. I'm the one representing this place. I'm going to make sure that you guys don't run roughshod over everything. Because if you do, and I just step back and allow it to happen, because I'm sitting here thinking about Gunther for three weeks, then all of a sudden, even if I beat Gunther, I look around and I've just allowed these guys to take over the whole territory.

[Megan Morant]

But what did Cody Rhodes learn when he was the champion?

[Sam Roberts]

It's so great to be champion for a year. I don't know. What?

[Megan Morant]

Champions don't have friends.

[Sam Roberts]

Randy Orton was his friend. Jay. Champions don't have friends. Champions don't have friends.

[Megan Morant]

It's lonely at the top.

[Sam Roberts]

Who's Cody Rhodes teaming with at Money in the Bank?

[Megan Morant]

Jay uso.

[Sam Roberts]

Jay US has been Cody's friend the whole time. And Cody's been Jay's friend the whole time.

[Megan Morant]

It's tough to have friends when you're at the top. That's all I'm saying.

[Sam Roberts]

Not if you're a real one.

[Megan Morant]

Sometimes they can get in the way.

[Sam Roberts]

How would you know? Anyway, anyway, Judgment day is getting messy, too. Yes.

[Megan Morant]

I mean, is Raquel a rat?

[Sam Roberts]

Okay, so I heard Michael Cole bring that up. And no, I mean, that struck me as maybe. Michael Cole does not have a lot of close friends. I think Pat McAfee might be Michael Cole's first friend. And he just made it. Just now. Yeah. And he's just getting used to this whole friendship thing.

[Bert Kreischer]

Yeah.

[Sam Roberts]

Yeah, I think so. No, I think so.

[Megan Morant]

Raquel is a good friend. Because if someone did that, if there was another girl creeping around my best girl's boyfriend, I would have to let her know.

[Sam Roberts]

Can you imagine if Raquel had been.

[Bert Kreischer]

Like, oh, no, it wasn't any of my business.

[Sam Roberts]

He'd be like, what? We're literally tag team champions. We're best buds. You know why you didn't think to tell me about the chicken tenders? You didn't think to tell me about. That's right. They were nuggets.

[Megan Morant]

Nuggets.

[Sam Roberts]

They were improperly labeled. You're right. You didn't think to tell me about the person who's stealing plays out of my playbook? You didn't think that was necessary?

[Megan Morant]

Raquel's been given Live Close updates.

[Sam Roberts]

Yeah, well, Liv was back. I think she left that movie set early. She's like, when Mike and the Mad Dog with Mike would have to come back from his vacation early because Mad Dog was getting too comfortable hosting the show by himself. I think Liv Morgan left the movie set early to make sure that everything going on in that clubhouse was on the level.

[Megan Morant]

And Dominic was thrilled to see Live back.

[Sam Roberts]

Yeah, I don't think Dominic realized anything was wrong. He's like, cool.

[Megan Morant]

Is this great?

[Sam Roberts]

Oh, Roxanne Perez. She seems cool.

[Bert Kreischer]

Oh, cool.

[Sam Roberts]

Lives here. That's cool, too. I mean, but girls love the aloof guy. I don't know what it is. I'm not aloof at all. And guess what? Girls don't have the time of day for me. Okay. They love aloof fellas. And Dom's a little aloof at times.

[Megan Morant]

Yeah, easygoing. Well, listen, he's a simple man.

[Sam Roberts]

You think so?

[Megan Morant]

Yeah. 2K25, some Nuggies.

[Sam Roberts]

You think Liv. If what's happening to Live feels like it came out right out of Liv's playbook, Do you think that Liv is justified in being upset, or do you think it's a matter of we reap what we sow in this life?

[Megan Morant]

She's justified in being upset.

[Sam Roberts]

Good for you. You are Live Dom through and through. That was a test. That was a test.

[Megan Morant]

She's just. I mean, I'm very excited to see what's going on because I am a big fan of Roxanne Perez's don't let.

[Sam Roberts]

Live Dom hear you say that.

[Megan Morant]

I am. I'm not necessarily a fan of Dom Rocks yet.

[Sam Roberts]

Okay.

[Megan Morant]

Because I'm team Live Dom.

[Sam Roberts]

Okay, good. I'm glad you put that on the record. You know who's a fan of all this? Finn Balor. He seems to be having the time of his life. I've never seen that guy smile so much. But we had so. So. Okay, so. But Roxanne Perez comes out interferes in the match that Liv is having with Kyrie Sane. By the way, I don't know. Wherever Liv Morgan was on this movie set, they must have shipped a ring to her, because she has not missed a step in the last few weeks that she's been gone. But Incredible match with Kyrie Sane. It ends when Roxanne Perez interferes on Liv's behalf, and it is effective. But then the argument ensues with Raquel and Roxanne. Liv is distracted. It gives Kyrie Sane just enough time to avoid oblivion and win the match. Liv Morgan's obviously upset. This is her big comeback. And now she's lost, especially as she's campaigning to get a money in the bank qualifying match. But she blames Raquel, which was very bizarre.

[Megan Morant]

Now, Raquel is your inside gal, right? She's been the one who's been providing you updates about Roxanne Perez.

[Sam Roberts]

But if Raquel's not focused on the game, if Raquel's not focused on the plan. You know, here's the other thing. Raquel may not like Roxanne Perez around there, because what if. The same way Liv Morgan may not like Roxanne and Dom getting along from a friendship perspective, maybe Raquel doesn't like the idea that. What if Liv and Roxanne end up getting along?

[Megan Morant]

Or. I mean, why was can see this and smell this from a mile away? Because Roxanne has taken a play out of Liv Morgan's playbook, and this is her counteract.

[Sam Roberts]

Oh, you mean she's like.

[Megan Morant]

She's playing double defense, play offense.

[Sam Roberts]

But why was Roxanne Perez upset about. And why was Raquel upset about Roxanne interfering if. I mean, it was for the betterment of Liz.

[Megan Morant]

She doesn't trust Roxanne.

[Sam Roberts]

Well, that's not nice.

[Megan Morant]

Why is that not nice? Why would you trust Roxanne? She just shows up in your clubhouse with nuggies for your best friend's boyfriend.

[Sam Roberts]

Look how happy Finn Balor is.

[Megan Morant]

Would you trust anything that this woman does?

[Sam Roberts]

I don't. I think, like, to just be like, I don't trust you and I don't like you. And it's like, what have I done if you can't tell me what I've done?

[Megan Morant]

You're talking about best friend's man.

[Sam Roberts]

She just doesn't like her. I don't like your vibe.

[Megan Morant]

Yeah, I wouldn't like her vibe either. It's like, okay, bro, best friend's man.

[Sam Roberts]

But what if you're trying to be like, you know what? Maybe I was out of line. Let me help you. By interfering in your match and then get yelled at for it. That doesn't seem nice.

[Megan Morant]

I just. I just don't think that Raquel can trust Roxanne Perez, and I don't blame her.

[Sam Roberts]

You don't think lives anger Towards Roxanne was legitimate. You think maybe it was more of a mental mind game? It could be for Roxanne.

[Megan Morant]

It could be. Yeah. I mean, listen, why Liv is skeptical of Roxanne, right? Yeah, she has to be.

[Sam Roberts]

Yeah, of course. Of course. She knows this game.

[Megan Morant]

That Raquel back.

[Sam Roberts]

It's her game.

[Megan Morant]

So we'll see.

[Sam Roberts]

Like we've said, actions have consequences.

[Megan Morant]

Always do.

[Sam Roberts]

And she may be. I mean, that's one of those things. She may be looking around every corner going, when is this universe going to hit me in the face with a pie?

[Megan Morant]

Love all the ladies competing for Domino.

[Sam Roberts]

Because you get it. It's great. You understand it. It's relatable. Look, maybe you have the opportunity to ask Liv Morgan in person what on earth is going on. Get the Fanatics Fest. Have you heard about what's going on with Fanatics Fest? It is right around the corner. Fanatics Fest, June 20th through the 22nd at the Jacob Javits center in New York City. It's already less than a month away. That is absolutely insane. If you're a WWE fan and you haven't gotten your tickets yet, now is the time to to get them. There's so many WWE activities that are going to be going on at this place. Last year, WWE took the entire place over. This year, it's going to be even bigger. We're the Superstar entrances are of course coming back where you can do your own Superstar entrance. There's going to be live podcasts, live panels featuring WWE Superstars exclusive WWE merchandise. My son has a yeet. New York City Fanatics Fest exclusive T shirt from last year. I can only imagine what they're gonna have this year. Photo sessions and autographs with WWE Superstars including Cody Rhodes, Jay uso, Rhea Ripley, and WWE hall of Famers like the Undertaker and Trish Stratus. And a huge new announcement. Penta Rey Mysterio, Sami Zayn, John Cena, Seth Rollins, Alexa Bliss and Dominic Mysterio have confirmed that they'll be at Fanatics Fest. So grab your tickets now@fanatics fest.com and lock your spot for an unlock in your spot for an unforgettable weekend with the wwe. It really is. I mean, talk about getting close to the action. This thing that we all love so much, it's just such a fun thing to be a part of. I'll be there. I'm sure you'll be there. It's gonna. It's gonna be absolutely amazing. And by the way, WWE has been invading sports all over the place. I Mean, we see it in baseball, we see it in football, but I mean on a global level, did you see WWE invading soccer?

[Megan Morant]

Football was everywhere, if you will.

[Sam Roberts]

Yeah, Sunderland. Sunderland striker Eliza. Eliza Meinda. And I'm sorry if I'm mispronouncing it. Look, I'm not the biggest soccer fan in the world, but when I see one of the biggest stars in any sport, and again, my apologies to any of you out there that are obsessed with this the way we are all obsessed with wrestling. I understand it and I appreciate it. When I see an athlete in any sport getting out there and putting the Randy Orton pose in the most triumphant moment. That's the power that pro wrestling has, that you are out there. This sport that you have dedicated your life to, that the minute that you feel this triumph and this wave of energy comes over you, what are you thinking? You think about wrestling, you're thinking about the Viper, you're thinking about Randy Orton, you're. That you go back to being an 8 year old kid. It's so fun. So it was amazing to see that over the weekend. But you know, he's not. It doesn't seem like he's having a lot of fun.

[Megan Morant]

Who's that?

[Sam Roberts]

Becky Lynch. Becky lynch out on Raw tonight. Lyra Valkyria is in the ring.

[Megan Morant]

Get them wangs.

[Sam Roberts]

She's got them wangs out and that not the real ones. Metaphorically though, the wangs are out for Lyra Valkyria. It's announced that we are getting the rematch for the Intercontinental Championship. Becky lynch versus Lyra Valkyria. And Lyra starts by saying, I couldn't wait to see who was next in line with all the women that are on the roster and everybody who deserves a O. Becky lynch gets another shot at the Intercontinental Championship. And Becky comes out and she is still on this trip of like, I won the night.

[Megan Morant]

But she did win the night, didn't she? Didn't have the goal.

[Sam Roberts]

No, that's what the match was for.

[Megan Morant]

Lyra went to the hospital.

[Sam Roberts]

I mean, I'll. If I'm the intercontinental champion, I'll move into the hospital if I get to be the intercontinental champion.

[Megan Morant]

Sleep in your bed, defend your title if you're just in the hospital all the time. I said he stood tall.

[Sam Roberts]

That's right.

[Megan Morant]

She made a statement at the end of the night.

[Bert Kreischer]

Good.

[Sam Roberts]

She stood tall. Not very shiny because there was no gold on her anywhere to be seen. Just like the last time she and Lyra were in the ring together in nxt.

[Megan Morant]

What is gold? What good does Gold, do you?

[Sam Roberts]

In the hospital, you're still a champ. Are you kidding me? You don't think the hospital will be, like, the intercontinental champs in that room? Let's make sure that she's got the.

[Megan Morant]

Good room, get her the good cafeteria food, 100% best Jell O.

[Sam Roberts]

She's getting lobster every night, not just her last night. She's the intercontinental champion, for God's sake.

[Megan Morant]

Let me tell you, hospital lobster, it's the best.

[Sam Roberts]

It's the best lobster there is, especially if you're the intercontinental champion. So we got a stipulation on this, though, that I found very, very interesting. Becky offered this up, and I think that Becky really is hoping to get it done this time and wants to add insult to injury because Becky said that if she loses to Lyra Valkyria, she will never challenge Lyra for that championship again.

[Megan Morant]

Again.

[Sam Roberts]

That's right. But if she wins, then Lyra must raise Becky's hand in victory.

[Megan Morant]

See, I think this is so nice of Becky. We just talk about Jay making the lives of all of these kids by choosing a young fan in the crowd to yeet with. And Becky sees the fan in Lyra Velcro.

[Sam Roberts]

Don't you dare.

[Megan Morant]

Grew up.

[Sam Roberts]

Don't you dare.

[Megan Morant]

Cheering and being inspired by the man. And she says, you know what? I'm gonna make your life, and I will let you raise my hand in victory.

[Sam Roberts]

This is very unbecoming. This is. This is. This is unbecoming of you.

[Megan Morant]

Big of Becky.

[Sam Roberts]

I mean.

[Megan Morant]

I mean, for her to accomplish this much and to turn back around and say, lyra, I'll allow you to do that.

[Sam Roberts]

I've been accused of.

[Megan Morant]

Big of Becky.

[Sam Roberts]

I've been accused of being a show before, but I've never seen anything like this. This is insane. To insult the intercontinental champion, call her, like, compared to a fan that gets to be in there with Becky Lynch. Becky is maybe. Was. Maybe there was a time, but she's grown out of that and become her own individual. She's become a champion, okay? The intercontinental champion, the Dominic Mysterio of the women's division, okay? This is who Lyra Valkyria is. And maybe Becky is starting to become a bit of a fan of Lyra.

[Megan Morant]

She didn't look like she was fangirling over anyone.

[Sam Roberts]

No, she didn't look like. It was like it tonight. But look, Becky said, when I win fair and square, you'll raise my hand in victory. I'm very worried that Becky lynch has something very, very devious up that leather sleeve of hers. And she's going to make Lyra raise her arm under, I mean, obscene circumstances.

[Megan Morant]

She showed what she's capable of when she put Lyra in hospital.

[Sam Roberts]

And Lyra showed what she's capable of when she beat Becky Lynch. Do you think Becky could live to regret this stipulation? I mean, do you think if Lyra beats Becky lynch again at Money in the bank, what is fluke? How could you be a fluke three times? That's not how flukes work. Are you a maniac? It's not a fluke. It would be the third time it happened.

[Megan Morant]

Well, you know.

[Sam Roberts]

No, I don't know. No, I don't know.

[Megan Morant]

It wouldn't be a fluke. But Becky is going to win fair and score.

[Sam Roberts]

Okay, but if she didn't. If she didn't. That was three times now. I mean, I kind of feel like not only would Becky not be able to challenge Lyra for another intercontinental championship match, but what would Becky even do.

[Megan Morant]

At that point was a roll up in nxt and it wasn't decisive.

[Sam Roberts]

And then it was decisive. There was three counts on the mat and then a bell.

[Megan Morant]

Becky won the night. So that's not a thing.

[Sam Roberts]

There aren't awards for the night. What are you talking about? What do you mean? Nobody wins the night. You win, Becky.

[Megan Morant]

You do.

[Sam Roberts]

It's the match. That's the only contest is the match.

[Megan Morant]

Well, we just talked about at the start of the show is like, Seth won the match. He's going to money in the bank. But like, the talking point is CM Punk.

[Sam Roberts]

But what did I say?

[Megan Morant]

So did CM Punk win the night?

[Sam Roberts]

No. There is no win the night. Everyone gets to share the night. It's everyone's night. Everyone's going to sleep. Everyone's waking up and it's everyone's morning. Nobody wins the night. I said specifically to start the show. If you remember all the way back.

[Megan Morant]

Then, that's how competitive Becky lynch is. She takes no time of day off. She's focused on winning the morning.

[Sam Roberts]

You think Jay USO is focused on the wrong thing?

[Megan Morant]

Becky's trying to win, focused on a sundial hour of the day?

[Sam Roberts]

No, as a matter of fact, when we started the show, I said, don't let this CM Punk thing distract you. Seth Rollins won. He's going to money in the bank. Let's talk about Seth Rollins going to money in the bank. But a lot of he won the match.

[Megan Morant]

CM Punk won the night.

[Sam Roberts]

A lot of fans say. A lot of fans chant we want tables. When for no reason. A lot of people say a lot of things. Doesn't make any sense. Doesn't make it right.

[Megan Morant]

I think Lyra is in trouble, to answer your question.

[Sam Roberts]

That wasn't my question.

[Megan Morant]

All right? She's in big trouble.

[Sam Roberts]

I didn't ask them Wangs out to answer your question. What question?

[Megan Morant]

Big Wang holding up Becky's arm in victory.

[Sam Roberts]

We should take the wings off before the match, I'm sure. Listen, we'll see. We'll see. We got another Raw before Money in the Bank. We'll probably have this exact same argument after that episode of Monday Night Raw. And quite frankly, I can't wait for it. I hope that you guys will be there for for it. Don't forget to subscribe across all audio platforms. Apple, Spotify, everywhere. You get podcasts to Raw recap. Don't forget to interact with the video on WWE's YouTube channel. Like, comment. Do the whole deal. Thank you to Burt Kreischer. Thank you to Tom Segura for making the effort. And we will see you guys next week when we recap another Raw.

[Megan Morant]

It.