Jey Uso and The Vision go to the EXTREME in Philly: Raw Recap, Aug. 18, 2025

Summary

Raw Recap with Sam Roberts and Megan Morant

Episode: Jey Uso and The Vision go to the EXTREME in Philly: Raw Recap, Aug. 18, 2025
Date: August 19, 2025

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Overview

In this lively episode of Raw Recap, Sam Roberts and Megan Morant break down the wild night of Monday Night Raw (now streaming on Netflix) in a raucous Philadelphia crowd. The episode’s main themes center around the fallout from “Extreme Rules”-inspired chaos, Bronson Reed’s ongoing feud with Roman Reigns, Naomi’s huge pregnancy announcement, and the ongoing impact of the Vision (Seth Rollins' new faction). Notably, the hosts are joined in a long, candid interview by Bronson Reed, who reveals both his strategy against Reigns and some personal insight into his career resurgence. The episode is peppered with signature banter, wrestling hot takes, and playful ribbing, giving fans a detailed, behind-the-scenes look at this week’s Raw.

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Key Discussion Points

1. Extreme Rules in Philadelphia & Arena Name Correction

• Philadelphia’s Role: The show opens with Sam and Megan hyping the “Extreme Rules” influence on Raw in Philly.
  • Sam jokes about arenas going by different names, with Megan insisting on accuracy: “This is the Xfinity Mobile Center. We are boots on the ground in the Xfinity Mobile Center.” (01:37)
• Paul Heyman’s Insults: The duo lovingly dissect Paul Heyman’s opening promo, where he references Philadelphia’s ECW roots and comedically refers to Tommy Dreamer as “the late great.”
  • Megan panics: “Is Tommy Dreamer dead?” (02:14)
  • Sam quips: “One week ago, I was sitting in a Dunkin Donuts with Tommy Dreamer… he’s fine.” (02:34)

2. The Vision Stirs It Up: Rollins, Bronson Reed, Bron Breakker

• Heyman’s Wordplay & Introductions: Heyman delivers epic intros for Vision members, including “the master of the Tsunami” (Bronson Reed).
• Seth Rollins as Leader: Megan notes how Rollins “knows how to rile Bron Breakker up and unleash this dog.” (06:01)
• Jey Uso's Role: Jey’s entrance draws massive crowd support, with the crowd still chanting “ECW” as the Vision and Jey square off.

3. Special Interview: Bronson Reed (06:41–29:45)

Bronson Reed on the Tribal Chief, Sneakers, and Mind Games

• On Stealing Roman's Shoes:
  • “Every single time that I’ve been one on one with him, I’ve bested him and I’ve taken his shoes.” (06:47)
  • “There’s nothing more humiliating… than having to walk home with your socks on.” (07:32, Sam Roberts)
• Real-life Origin: Reed ties his shoe obsession to his upbringing in Adelaide, Australia.
  • “I never had the nicest pair of shoes growing up, so I envied people. And now… I do have the nice pair—and now I’m going to take people’s shoes as well.” (07:50)
• On Disrespecting Roman Reigns:
  • “[With Roman Reigns,] I just want to insult you… That’s what I do. I’m an opportunist.” (09:31)
• Team Dynamics:
  • On being tempted to betray the Vision: “There’s not one weak link in this group… us being a unit is unstoppable, and we know that.” (12:34)
• Paris Match Preview:
  • “If he wants to face me in Paris, I’ll face him in Paris and I’ll beat him. Maybe I’ll even do a shoey in front of the crowd—because I am Australian, you know.” (15:18)
• Injury and Comeback:
  • “I broke my talus bone completely in half... Had to learn to walk again… But when I get in that ring, I forget it.” (21:13–21:59)
• Strategy:
  • “If I hit that Tsunami on Roman in Paris, it’s done. It’s done with anyone.” (23:14)
• On the Vision's Identity:
  • “There’s a physical force, almost a bully mentality that comes with this.” (26:39, Sam Roberts)
• Shoe Culture Riffs:
  • Reed critiques wrestlers who wear Jordans strictly for the trend: “I think there’s a few posers in wrestling right now that are just wearing Jordans because they think they should.” (24:26)
• Size Banter:
  • “Do you and Roman Reigns even wear the same size shoe?” (27:36, Megan)
  • Reed: “He has big clown feet, it’s stupid… He’s got size 15s. I’m size 13.” (27:39)

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4. Naomi’s Pregnancy Announcement (32:45–38:44)

• Big Reveal: Stephanie McMahon breaks the news; Naomi confirms she and Jimmy Uso are expecting.
• Naomi’s Attitude: Jokes and keeps her on-screen persona sharp, referring to her rivals as “heifers” and crediting “Big Jim” (wink-wink) for her pregnancy.
  • “The fact that she used an expletive in her announcement—this is the best!” (34:49, Sam)
• Proceed with Caution:
  • Naomi warns the women’s locker room: “Heifers… got nine months and change to do whatever they’re gonna do with this Women’s Championship.”
  • Megan: “Naomi’s been doing the best work of her career. I think that continues.” (36:39)
• Fan and Peer Response:
  • “I did already see some superstars have thanked Big Jim. I saw Bayley tweeted out, thanking Big Jim.” (35:47, Megan)

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5. Women's Division Update (39:12–46:10)

• Women's World Championship:
  • Speculation about Iyo Sky, Roxanne Perez, and Raquel Rodriguez as title contenders.
• Becky Lynch’s IC Title Run:
  • Becky continues her “workhorse champion” run, defending the Intercontinental Title against Maxxine and Natalya.
  • Sam: “She has been handing out them IC Title shots.” (41:31)
  • Megan: “Not only is she the greatest of all time, but now she’s the best of all time as well.” (44:51)
• Best of All Time banter: Ongoing playful debate about Becky being “GOAT” and “BOAT”—playing with wrestling acronyms and family lineages.

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6. Becky Lynch vs. Nikki Bella—Heated Rivalry Escalates (47:59–52:45)

• Maxxine Encounter:
  • Megan defends Becky’s actions, calling her brawl with Maxxine “self defense.” (48:47)
• Nikki Bella Returns:
  • After Becky attacks Maxxine, Nikki Bella storms in, skips her usual entrance, and brings a brawl to Becky.
  • Sam: “Nikki Bella comes out, clears the ring, takes out Becky Lynch. I am very interested… at this idea of Becky Lynch and Nikki Bella.” (50:46)
• Finding Nikki Bella’s Identity:
  • Sam reflects: “Before, who’s Nikki Bella? Nikki Bella’s… this legend that’s back. But now she’s got something to prove and now she’s in line for this title.” (52:03)

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7. Xavier Woods, Penta, and the $18,000 Hat (53:00–56:12)

• Ongoing Comedic Feud:
  • Woods wants reimbursement for his destroyed, oversized hat; Penta is unmoved.
  • Sam: “He said he was gonna have to get $18,000 worth of pesos beaten out of Penta…” (54:58)
• Fallout:
  • No money was recovered, but next week will see Penta vs. Kofi.
  • Megan: “They gotta get out of that mourning funk… 58 days since losing the Tag Team Championships.” (55:53)

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8. Quick Hits and Teasers for Next Week

• Adam Pearce's Tough Night:
  • Pearce is hassled by Reed and Naomi and is constantly fielding challenges and chaos.
• Chelsea Green as an Opportunist:
  • Megan: “There’s a world title that’s vacant… She’s always looking for an opportunity.” (56:36)
• Stephanie Vacair's Title Picture:
  • Discussion about how to determine the new Women’s World Champion at Clash in Paris; who deserves a shot.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• (02:14) Megan: “Is Tommy Dreamer dead?”
• (07:32) Sam: “…there’s nothing more humiliating… than having to walk home with your socks on.”
• (09:31) Bronson Reed: “I just want to insult you. That’s what I do. I’m a… Bronson Reed is an opportunist.”
• (15:18) Bronson Reed: “If he wants to face me in Paris, I’ll face him in Paris and I’ll beat him. Maybe I’ll even do a shoey in front of the crowd—because I am Australian, you know.”
• (23:14) Bronson Reed: “If I hit that Tsunami on Roman in Paris, it’s done.”
• (34:49) Sam: “She used an expletive in her announcement—this is the best!”
• (36:39) Megan: “Naomi’s been doing the best work of her career. I think that continues.”
• (41:31) Sam: “She has been handing out them IC Title shots.”
• (50:46) Sam: “Nikki Bella comes out, clears the ring, takes out Becky Lynch. I am very interested… at this idea of Becky Lynch and Nikki Bella.”
• (53:00) Sam: “Xavier woods didn’t get the hat money. He was looking for the hat money… he left with exactly $0 out of Penta.”

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• 00:31: Hype for Raw in Philly and the “Extreme Rules” theme
• 01:37: Arena name correction banter
• 02:14: Megan’s moment of panic about Tommy Dreamer
• 06:41–29:45: Extended Bronson Reed interview (Tribal Chief feud, Vision, shoe obsession, comeback story)
• 32:45–38:44: Naomi’s pregnancy announcement & crowd reaction, “Big Jim” jokes
• 39:12–46:10: Women’s division shake-up; IC title; Becky Lynch–Natalya discussion
• 47:59–52:45: Becky Lynch–Nikki Bella escalation
• 53:00–56:12: Xavier Woods, Penta, and the $18,000 hat saga

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Episode Tone & Style

This episode features classic wrestling banter, quick wit, and behind-the-curtain honesty. The discussion with Bronson Reed is authentic and intense, blending bravado and vulnerability. Megan and Sam keep up a playful, sometimes snarky repartee that keeps the tone energetic and decidedly “insider”—like fans talking among themselves backstage.

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In Summary

For fans who missed the broadcast, this episode captures the full flavor of post-Extreme Rules Raw:

• Bronson Reed’s main-event ambitions and mind games (with a focus on taking Roman’s status and shoes) define the episode’s main interview.
• Naomi’s pregnancy is delivered in character, fusing real-life joy with on-screen bravado.
• The women’s division is in flux: Becky Lynch is in top form, Nikki Bella is back with something to prove, and questions swirl about the championship going into Clash in Paris.
• Storylines like the oversized hat and Adam Pearce’s tribulations add levity to a fast-moving, fun episode.

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Whether you need a deep-dive catchup or a taste of the best moments, this episode delivers the energy, insight, and attitude that only WWE and Real Recap can.

Transcript

[Bronson Reed]

David.

[Sam Roberts]

Yes? Have you ever noticed that the way we use our phones is ironic? Phones are for connection, but we look at them more than we look at each other.

[Bronson Reed]

That's ironic.

[Sam Roberts]

Griffin, it's like rain on your wedding day. Listen. That's ironic. So U.S. cellular created U.S. mode to help us reconnect, you and I.

[Bronson Reed]

That's right.

[Sam Roberts]

A phone company wanting people to use their phones, less ironic.

[Bronson Reed]

A phone company wanting people to use their phones, less ironic.

[Sam Roberts]

But let's find US again with US mode from US Cellular. Visit uscellular.com built for us to get started. What are the other things that are ironic? A Paul Heyman guy has lost an Extreme Rules match in the City of Brotherly Love, Philadelphia. The Tribal Chief is back for revenge on Bronson. Re a huge announcement by Naomi. Another successful night for Becky Lynch. All here backstage at the Wells Fargo Center. This is RAW recap at WWE and Fanatics original production. What a Monday Night Raw. What a city to see a Monday Night Raw in Megan. Extreme rules radiating through Philadelphia.

[Megan]

Before we can even dive into it, I have to correct you because I. I take pride in the fact that we are factually accurate here on the RAW recap show. And this is not the Wells Fargo Center.

[Sam Roberts]

What is it?

[Megan]

This is the Xfinity Mobile Center. We are boots on the ground in the Xfinity Mobile Center.

[Sam Roberts]

We're in the Xfinity Mobile Center. I don't know. We're in the big building in the middle of town.

[Megan]

You can just call buildings whatever you want.

[Sam Roberts]

No, you're right.

[Megan]

They have names.

[Sam Roberts]

Who would dare just call big arenas whatever they want? Listen, here we are. Extreme Rules was the name of the game. First of all, we start Monday Night Raw with the Vision in the ring, and we get those introductions from Paul Heyman as only he can give, kind of giving the credits of each member of that group.

[Megan]

I have a question.

[Sam Roberts]

Okay.

[Megan]

Is Tommy Dreamer dead?

[Sam Roberts]

No. And I'm not gonna say. Why do you have to do that to Tommy? Not in Philadelphia, of all places. For him to do that to Tommy Dreamer.

[Megan]

Was there a part of you? Because for me, when he said, rest his soul, Tommy Dreamer, I was like, did I miss something?

[Sam Roberts]

He said, the late great. No, I didn't think I missed something. Can I tell you something?

[Megan]

Yes.

[Sam Roberts]

One week ago, I was sitting in a Dunkin Donuts with Tommy Dreamer. That's a true thing. In Westchester. He's fine. He's on Pro Wrestling Nation 247 with me, like, every single week.

[Megan]

Look, but I didn't know if There was breaking news.

[Sam Roberts]

No, no, no. Except that Paul Heyman is absolutely savage. That was the. Especially because he had been. He had such kind words for everybody else, right?

[Megan]

Yeah.

[Sam Roberts]

He's running down Brom Breaker as the future of the future Mr. WrestleMania of the. The Big Dog. And this is his yard.

[Megan]

And the man who taught Roman Reigns to fear the spear.

[Sam Roberts]

I mean, the rhyming that this guy does. And then he moves on, of course, to Bronson Reed, who is now not only the tribal thief, not only has the Shula fala, but also. Did he say Tsunami? I think I heard Tsunami. I think he said the master of the Tsunami. I think so. I think. I think he. I think he isn't anybody.

[Megan]

What a wordsmith.

[Sam Roberts]

If anybody deserves the title, it's him. And then, of course, the reigning and defending undisputed world Heavyweight Champion. I love Seth Rollins.

[Megan]

When Paul does the rating, it's nothing like.

[Sam Roberts]

There is nothing like winning a championship and having Paul Heyman by your side to tell the world that you won that championship. It's like. Because the last thing you are, of course, like, the first night you win a championship, it's all. Everybody's got something to say about it. But then people start to take it for granted. And how do you. How do you maintain that spirit of a champion? Just have Paul Heyman announce that you're champion every time you walk into a building.

[Megan]

And Seth is looking like a million bucks. I mean, he's in this suit, floral pattern, which I loved, by the way, and I was looking forward to hearing from the visionary. And then Jay Uso's music hit.

[Sam Roberts]

Jay uso's music did indeed hit. And Philadelphia was happy to see Jay uso, But as Jay USO was standing in the audience, you know, Paul Heyman, first of all, Paul Heyman also introduced himself as being an absolute goat in Philadelphia. Is he wrong, though, somebody that would have a statue erected for him had he not been so humble because they knew he would turn it down? No, I mean, look, I love that. It's like, hey, let's rip this band aid off. Let's. Let's. Let's not pretend we're not in this city. Philadelphia, who gave birth to Extreme Championship Wrestling, A promotion that, even though it started locally and only ran for a very short period of time, made such an impact that people tonight in 2025, were still chanting ECW. And every single ECW legend, pro and con, that Paul Heyman brought up, everyone in this building was familiar with bringing up New Jack and the Sandman. And Tommy Dreamer and Sabu and Sabu and the Dudley boys. And you go, yes. This is what it's all about. And in, in, in the spirit of that seeing the challenge issued. So who gets credit for the challenge by the way? Because it sounded like Paul Heyman was getting ready to make the challenge on behalf of Bron Breaker, who, I mean, I do feel like a lot of words were put in Jay Uso's mouth by Seth Rollins. I didn't hear him say anything about the Steiners.

[Megan]

I love that though because Seth, he's the leader of the Vision, right. And he knows how to push all of the members buttons.

[Sam Roberts]

Yeah.

[Megan]

He knows how to get the most out of Bron Breakker. He knows how to rile brawn Breaker up and unleash this dog that is ready to pounce, attack and spear the heck out of anybody in his way. But I did love how, you know, Bron Breaker is being held back by the entire Vision Jey USO is being held back by kids in the audience.

[Sam Roberts]

The kids are all holding back. Jay USO speaking, speaking of the tribal thief, speaking of the man who carries the Shula fala Bronson Reed, there's your mic over there. Welcome.

[Bronson Reed]

Why am I even here doing this?

[Sam Roberts]

Welcome to the Raw recap.

[Bronson Reed]

Well, because you're see what just happened out there.

[Sam Roberts]

I do.

[Bronson Reed]

We were just blindsided by the tribal chief again. If you notice, every single time that I've been one on one with him, I've bested him and I've taken his shoes. But when it comes to Roman Reigns, he has to blindside us. That's what he just did to Braun Breaker. That's what he just did to me. And did he try to take these shoes? No, no, you still have them. Cuz he knows if he tried, I'm going to get back up and beat his ass.

[Megan]

I did see you try to take the referee's shoes though.

[Bronson Reed]

Well, that was just, you know, I wasn't trying to take his shoes. He just doesn't know how to tie his shoes, Old Chad. And once I saw what they were, I didn't want that.

[Sam Roberts]

No, no, I, I would imagine that.

[Bronson Reed]

I'm a man of style. Even these like people are telling me like, oh, you took Midsummer. I was like, I didn't take them because I like them. I took them because I can.

[Sam Roberts]

And I think that that is something that you can't. Whether it's the Spizzikes or the Mids, it's not about you checking the size and seeing if it's something you could wear. It's about. I mean, there's nothing more. Anybody that grew up around sneaker culture is aware. There's nothing more humiliating, of course, than having to walk home with your socks on.

[Bronson Reed]

Yeah. And I get it. You know, it's happened to me. I grew up in, you know, some pretty bad parts of Adelaide, South Australia. Rhea Ripley knows all about it. She's grew up there as well. You. You grow up tough. You have to fight for everything. We fought for everything, whether that's in this wrestling business or whether that was on the streets in Adelaide. And I never had the nicest pair of shoes growing up, so I envied people. And now I've made it a point that now that I'm making some cash, I do have the nice pair of shoes every single time that you see me. And now I'm going to take people's shoes as well.

[Sam Roberts]

So at what point did you decide, this is something that I'm gonna do? This is something. Because, you know, it's really.

[Bronson Reed]

I didn't decide. It just was. It just happened in the moment I saw Roman down, I saw he was exposed. I made Superman, Clark Kent by taking his shoes.

[Sam Roberts]

It really does. I mean, human eyes. And then even when you see the footage, like after Raw goes off the air and people have their phones out and you see a man standing there in his socks, there is something is not voluntary.

[Bronson Reed]

No one's done that to Roman before.

[Sam Roberts]

I was about to say, who have.

[Bronson Reed]

You seen treat Roman the way that I have?

[Sam Roberts]

No one. There's always been a certain reverence for Roman Reigns, for the tribal chief, for the championship reign that he had, for the fact that he sits at the head of the table. There's always been that sort of awareness that this is Roman Reigns. And I found that the first time I saw you go down for his feet. And I realized what was happening. That was the first time since Roman Reigns became this version of Roman Reigns that I saw somebody kind of just go out of their way to be disrespectful and go, like, I'm not. I'm not. This isn't even a challenge.

[Bronson Reed]

I'm just.

[Sam Roberts]

I just want to insult you.

[Bronson Reed]

That's what I do. You know, I'm a. Bronson Reed is an opportunist.

[Sam Roberts]

Yeah.

[Bronson Reed]

You look back, and now my good friend Seth Rollins. I took the time, I saw my moment. I. I beat him up. I hit him with six tsunamis. It got me to the top of the card. I did the same thing. Even if you look at Solo Sikoa on smackdown, he needed some recruits. I knew if I went with him I would end up facing Roman Reigns. I got into the war games match and unfortunately I came off with a life changing injury. But I came back as strong as ever with Seth Rollins and now I see Roman Reigns again. I take my opportunity, I disrespect him because I know it's going to get into his head and now I'm going to fight him.

[Megan]

And, and I don't know if you know, but possession is 9, 10 the law.

[Bronson Reed]

It's true. Yeah. They're mine now.

[Sam Roberts]

I mean, I'm not going to take it from you.

[Bronson Reed]

No, don't.

[Sam Roberts]

I wouldn't.

[Bronson Reed]

You could try.

[Sam Roberts]

I know. I would prefer you actually have some nice shoes on. Actually hoping you wouldn't notice. Really, really questioning really nice shoes.

[Bronson Reed]

How much they run for.

[Sam Roberts]

No, you know you would. No, you know, I shouldn't.

[Bronson Reed]

They're nicer than these, actually. I don't know because they're a little smaller. They'd hang nicely under that second pair.

[Megan]

I think they'd fit pretty well.

[Sam Roberts]

Wow. Yeah.

[Megan]

And then diversify the color scheme too.

[Bronson Reed]

I'm not going to take your shoes.

[Sam Roberts]

My mom said if I lost one more pair wouldn't be able to get any new ones.

[Bronson Reed]

If I take your shoes, what's I.

[Sam Roberts]

Going to accomplish for me, you mean nothing.

[Bronson Reed]

Exactly.

[Sam Roberts]

I don't think there's ever been anybody that's gone. Like, I wonder if Bronson Reed could take Sam Roberts sneakers. That's never even been a. It's the question. The answers in the question does nothing for me.

[Bronson Reed]

But taking Roman Reigns shoes gets me in that main event spot.

[Sam Roberts]

I think that when I realized it was a thing and I mean I remember we were, we, we talked about it when you did the second pair when you went down when he was down. And I saw because at first the camera didn't quite see what you were doing and you kind of bent down out of the shop but you bent down to his feet and I went, there's no way he's not doing. You can't. Because this, I think the first pair people started to kind of after a week or so go, oh, I see. Like maybe they didn't understand when you went for the second pair. I said this is the most ultimate disrespect that you could just show another man.

[Bronson Reed]

Yeah. I mean the thing is I didn't plan on get again taking a second pair. But I beat him up. I hit him with a tsunami. He's down on the ground. Might as well, right? Might as well keep adding to that collection. And I said it last week on Raw. I'm going to keep adding to that collection every time we meet. But tonight, he blindsided me. I didn't get that opportunity. And I went to go back in the ring. I was going to go back in there, but Paul Heymon told me it's on the tribal thing. Thief's time now. No longer the tribal chief. We're talking about the thief now. That's my time.

[Sam Roberts]

And you said you wanted to be acknowledged as such by. By Roman Reigns, so. Okay, so. So if this is the attitude, right, the attitude is ultimately one of doing personal gain, right? Figuring out the position that you can be put in that will best benefit yourself. You're part of a team. How can that team ultimately trust that if a better opportunity for you comes along, you won't turn your back on Seth, on Heyman, on Broad Breaker?

[Bronson Reed]

I mean, it's different. The Vision, we're all Alphas. We're all in this together. There's not, you know, there's not one weak link in this group. You look at the groups of the past, there's always someone that's a little bit of a weak link. But with us, you have Seth freaking Rollins, the World Heavyweight Champion, one of the greatest wrestlers of all time. You have Bron Breaker, the future of the business. He's an absolute machine. Look at him. He's the craziest athlete I've ever met inside the ring. And then you have me, a walking natural disaster. I'm a human wrecking ball. I can go through anyone. So us being a unit is unstoppable, and we know that. So I don't ever see a better opportunity coming along. All three of us are incredible. And we have Paul Heyman, the Oracle, with us. How can it get any better?

[Sam Roberts]

The adorable Oracle, as he called himself. Adorable Oracle.

[Bronson Reed]

He is adorable.

[Megan]

He also referred to it as a tsunami. What did. What did you think of that?

[Bronson Reed]

I like it.

[Megan]

Yeah.

[Bronson Reed]

Yeah.

[Megan]

It has a nice ring to it.

[Bronson Reed]

I like it a lot. You know, I. I dubbed myself the tribal Thief, and Paul Heyman went along with it. He went along with the Shula Fala, but now the tsunami makes sense.

[Sam Roberts]

Yeah.

[Megan]

Well, I actually find it so interesting that you just brought up back on smackdown, you know, when you were back when you were with Solo and kind of eyeing Roman Reigns from back then, was. Was Roman sort of always a target? I mean, obviously he sits at the head of the table. Everybody has their eyes on Roman Reigns. But has that been in the front of your mind for quite some time now?

[Bronson Reed]

Yeah. I mean, there's a lot of people that I'm targeting and it's just in due time. And if you have something that I want, I'm going to come for you when the time is right. And the time is right now for Roman Reigns. I think he's incredible. He's untouchable. He's one of those guys that has. Has led the industry for the last decade, but it's time for someone to beat him up and take his spot. And I said that I'm not just going to take his shoes next time. I'm going to take his career.

[Sam Roberts]

Well, that's what's interesting about the position that Roman's in right now, right. Is that it's not a story about a championship. It's not a story about a bloodline or a faction or anything. You're talking about status. And that's really what I mean, since you guys came together, you know, the night after WrestleMania and the first goal was about getting the World Heavyweight championship. Why? Because it has power.

[Bronson Reed]

Exactly.

[Sam Roberts]

Because it's got. You can. That political poll comes with it. Everything comes with that. And now it's this status that comes along with being one of, you know, an extremely small handful of people that have actually beaten Roman Reigns. So Roman is shouting in the ring, I'll see you in Paris. Yeah, it feels like you might have that match. Well, I. I haven't seen a graphic yet.

[Bronson Reed]

I'm sure the graphic will come because I'm ready for that match as well. I said to Heyman, I said, I'll do it tonight. But he stopped me and he said, on your time in Paris seems like a good time. Why not?

[Sam Roberts]

Is there a part of you that when you see that graphic on a very human being level, that's gonna go, oh, my God, I did it. It's Bronson Reed. It's not a multi maim. It's if. If it is indeed what I think it is, which is Bronson Reed versus Roman Reigns, that's an enormous position for you.

[Bronson Reed]

Yes. And it's not an Paris, by the way. Yeah, yeah. Of course. That crowd is going to be insane. And I'm sure they're going to be cheering for Roman Reigns, but they're going to recognize just how great Bronson Reed is. And that's. That's what my whole thing has been. Paul Heyman has recognized it. Seth Rollins has recognized it. I've been great for A long time. It's just that my time has never come. As Heyman said, I'm a violent man in a PG era, and I'm going to continue to be that. So this is my time to ascend. This is my time to take that top spot, and I'm going to give it everything. And I'm going to beat Roman Reigns. If he. If he wants to face me in Paris, I'll face him in Paris and I'll beat him. And once I'm done beating him, maybe I'll take a third pair and maybe I'll even do a shoey in front of the crowd. Because, you know, I am Australian, you know.

[Sam Roberts]

Yeah.

[Bronson Reed]

It is a tradition for us.

[Megan]

I feel like that would be. This is real, the ultimate sign of disrespect. Not only taking a shoe, but then.

[Bronson Reed]

The only thing is, I don't know. I don't know if I want to drink out of Roman Reigns stinky shoe. Smell these things.

[Sam Roberts]

You.

[Bronson Reed]

You want to look at you. And I'm like, he wants to smell those shoes.

[Sam Roberts]

It feels too disrespectful for me to do it. I have to kind of maintain I've.

[Bronson Reed]

Been wearing around my neck, so I smell them every week.

[Sam Roberts]

Not great.

[Bronson Reed]

No Roman Reigns, you know, I don't know. Maybe he has to go get checked for athlete's foot.

[Sam Roberts]

Cause I thought you. I'm sure. I was thinking he was the type of guy that wore the pair once and that's it.

[Bronson Reed]

Maybe. I don't know. Maybe they stink that bad at one time. One and done. Oh, yeah.

[Sam Roberts]

It's tough.

[Megan]

I mean, it's hard to lack confidence when you have the OTC's shoes around your neck, carrying them with you wherever you go. But, you know, I can't help but notice just such a different demeanor in you ever since you've joined the vision. And sitting here with us right now, you're as confident as ever.

[Bronson Reed]

Yeah.

[Megan]

And we're talking about the man who a lot of people said is the reason that WWE is where it's at today, the reason that WWE is on Netflix. What makes you feel so confident looking face to face with Roman Reigns?

[Bronson Reed]

Because I put him down and took his shoes. I have the ultimate confidence. Like, this is the thing. I've been prepared for this match for a long time. You know, I've grinded on the Indies in Australia. I spent so much time in Japan getting beat up in dojos and getting beat up by some of the toughest men in this business. I then finally got to nxt, I got fired. I had to go back out onto the Indies. I had to work my way up in Japan again. I beat someone who's considered unbeatable in Japan and now I'm going to do the same thing here in wwe. I worked my way to the top and I'm going to beat another person they considered to be unbeatable in Roman Reigns because I can. I'm that sort of guy that can just scalp the top talent.

[Sam Roberts]

When did you get into that position where you realized, if this is going to happen, I'm going to be the one that has to take the responsibility on this? Was it when you got back after being let go and realized, like, oh, because I'm sure when you get here the first time dream come true, of course, I just have to let nature take its course and then, boom, sorry, dream's over. Yeah, it's. It's done. So is it when you get back that you go, okay, there's no more depending on anybody. I have to do this myself or it's not going to happen?

[Bronson Reed]

Yeah, 100%. You know, that was the biggest eye opening experience that I went, only I can make this happen. And I did. I got back on the radar. Triple H saw me, saw the things I was doing in Japan, wanted me back. And then when I came back, you saw the first thing I did was align myself with Ms. Because he paid me a bunch of money to help him. So I've always been that opportunist. So now in the role that I am right now, I feel like this is the time to beat Roman Reigns, to really cement myself in that top spot and to show that the Vision can get it done all the way through the card. Whether that's Seth Rollins as champion, whether that's Bron Breaker beating someone, whether that's me beating Roman Reigns, or even me and Bron Breaker as a tag team, you'll see we are an unstoppable type of tag team. We just haven't been shown that much yet.

[Sam Roberts]

Yeah.

[Megan]

Is there any part of you that struggles to trust Seth Rollins at all?

[Bronson Reed]

I mean, me and Seth have a detailed history, and when he, he was the one that called me to join the Vision, you know, it wasn't Paul Heyman, it wasn't Bron Breaker. It was a surprise to them when I showed up at Saturday night's main event. But he's a smart man. He knows that keeping me by his side is the best thing for him. Because if I'm not there, he's got Braun who's great? Who's going to protect him? But I think Bron's got Heyman's back a little bit more. I'm the one that's protecting Seth, so he knows that he needs to keep me on his right side.

[Sam Roberts]

When you were going through what you were going through with Set when you guys were rivals.

[Bronson Reed]

Yes.

[Sam Roberts]

And it felt like every week was escalation. It was like, no, we gotta tear buildings down, we gotta rip walls apart, we have to crush bars. Did it get to a point where you were like, this is like we've, we've, we've raised the bar so high in terms of the amount of damage people expect from a Bronson Reed, Seth Rollins segment.

[Bronson Reed]

Yeah.

[Sam Roberts]

That I don't know where to take this.

[Bronson Reed]

It got to that point for sure. Yeah. Like, I think if I didn't get injured at war games, it might have gotten to a place that I don't even, I can't even comprehend.

[Sam Roberts]

Sure.

[Bronson Reed]

You know, right before war games, he stomped my head into the stairs at Saudi in Saudi Arabia. And you know, I was bleeding everywhere and he beat me. But when he stood up, he saw that I stood straight back up as well. So he knew that like I was coming for him. It just so happened that opportunity opened up to join with Solo and to take out Roman Reigns for good. And that's what I wanted to do. But it didn't happen. But now is the time.

[Megan]

You talked about that injury that you sustained at war games earlier and you said it was a life changing injury. What about it changed who you are?

[Bronson Reed]

I mean, so I broke my talus bone completely in half. It separated and, and went apart. And so that's a very hard injury to come back from. I was, I had my foot up like this for three months. My leg atrophied. I had to build all my muscle back up in this right leg. Had to learn to walk again on this right leg, then learn to run, then learn to jump, and then eventually get in a ring and do everything that we do in the ring. And the crazy part about it is, is everyday life, walking around, running, doing those things, it's painful. But when I get in that ring, I forget it. And for some reason the doctors noticed that, that when I'm in the ring I'm. I can do anything. So wrestling is what brought me back from the injury, but I'm still in pain every day. But I'm working through it.

[Sam Roberts]

Really?

[Bronson Reed]

Yeah. It is what it is.

[Sam Roberts]

Is it going to be one of those things that is just Always there.

[Bronson Reed]

Well, over time, my mobility in this right foot will never be 100 again at all. My new 100 is 75 of normal mobility in your foot.

[Sam Roberts]

Wow.

[Bronson Reed]

So. But I get it done. That's all that matters. I tape it up, I put my boots on, I go out there, I beat people up.

[Sam Roberts]

Yeah. And also, like, it'd be one thing if you were a little bit more stationary in your style of wrestling, but you're a giant of a man that likes to jump off the top rope.

[Bronson Reed]

That's true.

[Sam Roberts]

So it doesn't really help that not only is that leg helping support a lot of weight, but it's also helping it leap through midair.

[Bronson Reed]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Sam Roberts]

But was it. Was. Was there ever a point where you, like, you know what, maybe I'll change up the style. Maybe I'll look at like a, like a, like a, A, A John Tenta or something like that that still had that mobility, but he wasn't coming off the ropes.

[Bronson Reed]

No. I mean, I know the Tsunami is so effective. Yeah. I had to be able to hit it. So as soon as I was walking around, being able to do things, I was training in the PC in Orlando and I, I climbed to the top rope and I jumped off and I did it to make sure I could still do it. And to this day, since I debuted the Tsunami In NXT in 2019, no one is kicked out of it. I think it might be the only finishing move in WWE that no one's kicked out of. So I put that into people's minds all the time. Because if I hit that Tsunami on Roman and Paris, it's done.

[Megan]

Yeah.

[Bronson Reed]

It's done with anyone.

[Sam Roberts]

Wow. But if one were to kick out of it, we would. That's history.

[Bronson Reed]

That is history. But that's not gonna happen. It's not gonna happen, so don't even mention it. And if you want to keep those shoes, don't mention anyone kicking out of the Tsunam.

[Sam Roberts]

That's not going to happen. Because I do want to keep the shoes.

[Bronson Reed]

Yes. Let's say because I could put those shoes on display. I don't need to wear them. I don't wear these. I'm sure I could resell them on Goat for pretty, Pretty good price.

[Megan]

Those are nice ones.

[Bronson Reed]

At least 400 bands, I think the box or something.

[Megan]

How many shoes do you have in. In addition to the two pairs that you took from Roman Reigns?

[Bronson Reed]

Someone asked me this recently. I have a big shoe collection. I think I gotta have at least 200 pairs of shoes. And I Don't get free shoes either. So I work for those shoes.

[Sam Roberts]

You worked for these shoes?

[Bronson Reed]

I worked for these shoes as well. I did. I did.

[Sam Roberts]

No, that was. First of all, anybody that's seen you out of wrestling boots knows that you're a sneaker guy. But also anybody that knows to do this exactly understands, you know, sneaker culture.

[Bronson Reed]

Is a big thing. And I feel like I've always been into it since I was a kid. Again, I couldn't afford the shoes I wanted as a kid and teenager, but now I can. So I make sure I always got something fresh on.

[Sam Roberts]

Yeah.

[Bronson Reed]

But also it somehow weaved its way into wrestling. I'm going to call out. I think there's a few poses in wrestling right now that are just wearing Jordans because they think they should.

[Sam Roberts]

Who do you think?

[Bronson Reed]

Many people. Most people. Pretty much anyone you see on tv. I mean, punk was wearing Jordans for a little while and then he went back to his hokas. That's what he should be wearing.

[Sam Roberts]

Hocus.

[Bronson Reed]

They suit him. He should be in the hokas. I'm not going to take those shoes.

[Sam Roberts]

Right.

[Bronson Reed]

Unless I want a comfortable shoe to walk in. Maybe I'll take the hokus, but I don't want them. He can keep those beat up shoes.

[Sam Roberts]

Kofi is a OG sneaker guy.

[Bronson Reed]

Kofi's og yeah. There's a few people. As much as I don't like the USO's, and what happened tonight was a travesty, Jay. USO should not have beaten Bron Breaker. Those guys have always had the Air Force ones down. That's their thing.

[Sam Roberts]

Very early.

[Bronson Reed]

But again, I don't want to take a pair of Air Force ones. I can get them anywhere.

[Sam Roberts]

That's right.

[Bronson Reed]

I can walk into Footlocker and get a pair straight away.

[Sam Roberts]

Right.

[Bronson Reed]

So I don't want them.

[Sam Roberts]

No. Would you have. I mean, let's say you were not able to conquer the tribal chief, would you give back his sneakers?

[Bronson Reed]

No, no.

[Sam Roberts]

Those are yours.

[Bronson Reed]

They're mine now. Yeah, I took them.

[Megan]

Yeah.

[Bronson Reed]

Like I said, there's always going to be a reminder to him like he's not going to beat me in Paris. There's no way.

[Sam Roberts]

Right.

[Bronson Reed]

But say somehow, somehow he beats me, he's not getting them back.

[Sam Roberts]

No.

[Bronson Reed]

There's always going to be a constant reminder to him that I own a piece of him.

[Sam Roberts]

And you know, it was something because there was when people were trying to wrap their heads around what the vision is like, what this group is. And it's, you know, you, you see the elements. But what is everybody's place in here? And at first it was like, okay, we get what Seth Rollins, who Seth Rollins is. And then it was like, okay, you see the athleticism. Right. You have to be blind to not see that from Braun Breaker. And then there was this question that there were some fans that were asking, which is, where does Bronson Reed fit in here? And I feel like ever since this, that question has kind of gone out the window. There's a physical force, almost a bully mentality that comes with this. Especially since it's like you said something that nobody's done either physically or in spirit to Roman Reigns before. And all of a sudden it puts you in this other category.

[Bronson Reed]

Yeah. And I'm not done yet. I said, when I'm done with Roman, there'll be someone else that I'll. I'll do something, too, that you won't forget about. And it's going to be a big thing. It was Seth with the six tsunamis is Roman with taking his sneakers the next one? You're going to have to just wait and see. I'm a bit of a wild card.

[Sam Roberts]

Yeah. Yeah. Because.

[Bronson Reed]

Because don't know what I'm going to do.

[Sam Roberts]

The six tsunamis is like, you remember that physical force. That's what you remember. But this is a mental. You know what I mean? This is a straight, disrespectful mental move that seems like the polar opposite.

[Bronson Reed]

Yeah.

[Sam Roberts]

Of dropping tsunami after.

[Bronson Reed]

I was known for being that, like I said, a wrecking ball. You know, you saw the stuff I did last year, and I was going through walls, jumping onto cars, destroying Seth Rollins, like, all these things. Like, I was like, well, I'm not just that. I can be much more as well. I'm an intelligent man, so I can play some mind games as well and then also be that force. Then I'm really unstoppable.

[Megan]

Do you and Roman Reigns even wear the same size shoe?

[Bronson Reed]

No. He has big clown feet, so it's stupid. He's got really long toenails. It's gross.

[Sam Roberts]

He does.

[Bronson Reed]

I don't know. I assume, right. He's got size 15s.

[Sam Roberts]

Wow. Those are way bigger.

[Bronson Reed]

I'm size 13, which is big. I thought that's big.

[Sam Roberts]

Bigger than mine, too.

[Bronson Reed]

He's got E.T. feet.

[Sam Roberts]

Yeah. Well, listen, I'm. I'm excited about the way this has all gone. I'm excited for you. I'm excited for us as fans. I'm excited about the fact that I think this is only Roman's. If I'm counting correctly. I think this is only Roman's second singles match this calendar year.

[Bronson Reed]

Possibly, yeah.

[Sam Roberts]

And the fact that you're that name, potentially, I'm assuming we may have already. Maybe there's a graphic out there already that I have no clue.

[Bronson Reed]

I haven't checked my phone. But I'm sure people are asking, you know, why is that guy blindsiding you? All my friends back home in Australia like this guy.

[Sam Roberts]

But should the question. Should the question be, have you accepted the challenge? You've told us you've accepted that.

[Bronson Reed]

Of course, yeah. If he wants to fight me in Paris, I'll fight him in Paris. And I'm ready for everything. Like I said, I've been training for this for a long time. I've seen everything he can do. I've seen the Superman punches, the spear. We know everything. We know the Ooh. We know what's coming.

[Sam Roberts]

Right?

[Bronson Reed]

He doesn't know what's coming from me.

[Sam Roberts]

He obviously didn't.

[Bronson Reed]

There's been plenty of. Like I said, I ran people through walls. I've jumped onto cars. Like, of course, you know, a tsunami's coming. That is everyone's fate. At the end of the day, they get eclipsed by the great wave of death. It is what it is.

[Sam Roberts]

Right.

[Bronson Reed]

But you don't know what else I'm gonna do before then.

[Sam Roberts]

Yeah.

[Bronson Reed]

And that's what it's going to find in Paris, that I'm gonna beat the hell out of him.

[Sam Roberts]

Bronson, I appreciate you being so generous with your time, as you should.

[Bronson Reed]

And I appreciate not tribal. You have to acknowledge me.

[Sam Roberts]

I do. I do. It's tough.

[Bronson Reed]

Don't make me take the shoes.

[Sam Roberts]

Yeah, no, I acknowledge.

[Bronson Reed]

Good.

[Sam Roberts]

I acknowledge. Maggie's got nice sneakers on, too, you.

[Bronson Reed]

Know, they're pretty nice. What size are you? I mean, my wife's a size seven.

[Megan]

I. I got. I have big clown feet for. For a gal, too.

[Bronson Reed]

I'll leave you for now.

[Sam Roberts]

Thank you very much. Bronson Reed.

[Bronson Reed]

Of course. No problem.

[Sam Roberts]

Okay, that's. I thought it was gonna. No handshake.

[Bronson Reed]

You hear that? That's not just a Toyota truck. That's the sound of no crowds, no.

[Sam Roberts]

Alerts, no distractions, and no telling what you'll find next, you know, like a detour.

[Bronson Reed]

So why would you ever take a tour when you could take a detour?

[Sam Roberts]

Toyota trucks. There he goes. Bronson Reed. And he really is. He's carrying that shoe Lafala with him everywhere he goes. Look at that. I mean, look. I would, too, if I had it.

[Megan]

You got Lucky today.

[Sam Roberts]

Oh, my God, I'm so glad I kept my shoes.

[Megan]

You were a good one today.

[Sam Roberts]

I really was like, as I was driving here because I had said I would love to talk to Bronson Reed on the podcast. And as I was driving here, I went, oh, no, if he feels froggy, I'm in a lot of trouble.

[Megan]

And these are some of your. I mean, you have a nice shoe collection yourself.

[Sam Roberts]

I like.

[Megan]

These are some of your finest.

[Sam Roberts]

I broke these out specifically because today was gonna be a fun day. When there's fun days, I like to break out fun shoes. But it wouldn't have been fun at all to drive home from Philadelphia in Sox and, you know, that's how it would have gone. Everybody's like, oh, just a fun thing they're doing for the show. I'm not getting those shoes back.

[Megan]

I'm happy for you. This is. This is your biggest win of the day. Your shoes.

[Sam Roberts]

It was. It was a big win for me today, just keeping the shoes and of course, getting to talk to Bronson Reed. Now. I will tell you that, you know, it's back to school season. I hope all the kids out there are being very careful with their sneakers when they go. If you're going to get nice sneakers to go back to school, make sure you can keep them on your feet because these public schools are tough right now. But there's no better way to gear up for the year than with the latest WWE backpacks, with the latest WWE T shirts, the accessories rep, your favorite superstars in and out of the classroom. They're all available now on WWE Shop and Fanatics. You get your Jay Uso shirts, you get your CM Punk shirts. Everything you need.

[Megan]

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[Sam Roberts]

Mr. Iguana. We get the Mr. Iguana. He's got multiple shirts now on Fanatics and WWE Shop. And of course, Seth Rollins has a new authentic tea that's available now at WWE Shop and Fanatics. It's packed with moments from across his incredible career that we have been lucky to get to witness ourselves. So get all that stuff now. The Seth Rollins shirt. All the back to school stuff at WWE Shop and Fanatics. Megan, one of the reasons it was a night that we won't soon forget was, you know, last week, Naomi had a match. Could not make the match. Nobody knew. There was wild speculation about.

[Megan]

Naomi knew all over the Internet.

[Sam Roberts]

Yeah, all week what had happened. And then all of a sudden, here comes old Steph McMahon to drop some knowledge to get the scoops. Scoop, Stephanie, is what they're Calling her. And she comes in here and she gets the scoop, which then Naomi shared with us here in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, that we've got another ooze on the way.

[Megan]

The bloodline continues. So happy for Naomi, you know, and I loved her coming out tonight on Raw and reminding everyone to still proceed with caution.

[Sam Roberts]

I mean, the fact that, like, it wasn't one of these things where it's like, I have. You know, because there's nothing better that a human being can do than bring life onto this planet, especially when it's a member of the bloodline. So, I mean, that's as good as it could possibly get. And instead of go ahead.

[Megan]

Well, it's just, you know, I read all the wild speculation on the Internet, and when we saw Naomi is gonna address the crowd, it's like, oh, are the rumors true? Are we really going to hear an announcement? Are we gonna find out that Naomi is pregnant? She's expecting a child? And I wondered, like, is this gonna be emotional? Is this going.

[Sam Roberts]

It was emotional. What emotions?

[Megan]

But is it like our. You know, it was. It was different when. When. When Becky made her announcement. And I know Naomi coming into this, she. We've seen this different side of her. Right. We've seen the laugh. We've seen the proceed with caution. We've seen the new entrance music. And I wondered, what Naomi. Are we going to see? The music hits. It's still the entrance music. And instantly, she tells Adam Pearce to get out of the ring. She does her laugh. She's referring to the women in the locker room as heifers.

[Sam Roberts]

I knew we were in great hands. Cause I was also worried. I was worried to tell you. You know, as much as I'm happy for this human being, the last thing that I want is for the Naomi that we've all gotten to know to just kind of shut off.

[Megan]

Yeah.

[Sam Roberts]

And here comes this other person to go, like, thanks, guys, and thanks for the support, and I'll see you around the block or whatever. No. Naomi first telling Adam Pearce that she is not giving you know what back. She's not handing over you know what. She used an expletive in her announcement. I was like, this is amazing. This is the best. And then tells Adam Pearce to get completely out of the ring. She says there's one person that the entire women's locker room should be thanking, and that's Big Jim.

[Megan]

Which was. This was great, too, because throughout Naomi's run, proceeding with caution, she's been tweeting about Big Jim all the time.

[Sam Roberts]

Right, right. And I Also enjoyed that the audience, she was like, there's one person that the women's roster should be thanking. And the whole. And the audience in Philadelphia was going, big Jim. Big Jim. And it was because they know how babies are made.

[Megan]

That's right.

[Sam Roberts]

They do.

[Megan]

I did already see some superstars have thanked Big Jim. I saw Bailey. Bailey tweeted out, thanking Big Jim.

[Sam Roberts]

That's great. That's great. Bailey's going through it right now. So the fact that she managed to get a tweet out like that. And also, you know, a nice corporate tie in. When Naomi announced to the audience that one of the reasons that she's pregnant is because her and her and Jimmy USO do like to Netflix and chill. So that was really, I thought something nice just for the corporate, you know, tie in and everything. And then I also thought just giving a heads up, right, Letting. Well, as she put it, saying that the Heifers have nine months. That these heifers.

[Megan]

Nine months and change.

[Sam Roberts]

These heifers have nine months and change to do whatever they're gonna do with this women's championship, because then she'll be back for again with the Heifers.

[Megan]

Yes. It was perfect. I loved everything about it. And, you know, we've said a lot of times on this very show that Naomi's been doing the best work of her career. I think that continues.

[Sam Roberts]

And we didn't even know what she was doing at home.

[Megan]

That's right. We had no idea.

[Sam Roberts]

She's making human beings shout out the best work of her career.

[Megan]

But in the ring, on the mic, Naomi's been doing the best work of her career. And I already can't wait to see her come back as a mom. She's gonna have a new f. Strength and level up once again. And I think everybody better proceed with caution.

[Sam Roberts]

I mean, do you know whenever it is that we see Naomi again, what the reaction is going to be when Naomi returns?

[Megan]

It's going to be insane.

[Sam Roberts]

Insane. And the fact that, yeah, like you said, she's going to have this whole other. And you hear it. You know, everybody talks about it. You know, Becky lynch talked about it when she came back after. After having a child. And Nikki Bella is talking about it now. Just the. Like, you're right. When you talk about the. The. The strength that it. That it gives people, the centering that it gives people, the motivation that it gives people. And this, like, idea that, like, you're a warrior dude, you're bringing life onto the planet.

[Megan]

You're making a person.

[Sam Roberts]

Right?

[Megan]

You can't do that.

[Sam Roberts]

I've tried. Can't do it. Cannot do it.

[Megan]

Cannot.

[Sam Roberts]

No, no.

[Megan]

Congrats to Naomi.

[Sam Roberts]

Congrats to Naomi.

[Megan]

Very happy for her. And, and Big Jim.

[Sam Roberts]

And Big Jim, too.

[Megan]

Yeah, shout out.

[Sam Roberts]

Yeah, shout out, by the way, shout out to Big Jim and thanks to him and, and for all the Netflix and chilling that they were able to do and, and, yeah, it's exciting.

[Megan]

Yeah, it's great.

[Sam Roberts]

It's the best. It really is the best. And the fact that we still got that, like, like the fact that, like, just as it seemed like Naomi was about to actually well up, like, I mean, she's beloved by this audience and just the fact that she was about to. It felt like she was about to crack and well up and like, submit to the emotion of this real moment that's happening. Then proceed with caution. Laugh starts and you're like, this is maybe this is the best wrestler there is. Naomi is like, she's amazing.

[Megan]

Yeah. And, you know, she got to have the moment at SummerSlam. Her dad, you know, playing her entrance music and, and defending her title. Obviously, the cash in that's up there with some of the best cash ins that we've ever seen. And I'm really happy that, you know, she's going to look back on this year and those moments, Right. Are incredible. Yeah, this is going to be, I mean, even better. Which, like, not even close.

[Sam Roberts]

Yeah, yeah, it's awesome. It's awesome elsewhere in the women's division and now. And I'm sure it's going to start getting very competitive. You know, the other conversation to have is, what is going to happen with that women's World Championship? You know, Stephanie, you know, is Iyo sky going to say, hey, you know, I didn't get the shot.

[Megan]

That's true.

[Sam Roberts]

That I was entitled to. Is Roxanne Perez and you pointed out last week going to say, hey, but.

[Megan]

I. Yeah, and I went back and watched a little bit of tape and you were saying, you know, Roxanne Perez later.

[Sam Roberts]

You know, I was right. Well, like the third time you've done that.

[Megan]

Well, I went back and watched the tape because I was like, Roxanne Perez did Pinner. Iyo had help from the Kabuki warriors. They tried to hold Roxanne down so that Iyo could have the advantage. And yes, Roxanne had Raquel in her corner, but there was two Kabuki warriors. There's one Raquel plus Iyo Sky. That's three. There's only two.

[Sam Roberts]

You know, I'm gonna have to call Bron Breaker to get his uncle in here to help you with this math because I don't know what you're talking about. I. I'm saying that I said there was an asterisk.

[Megan]

Roxanne Perez overcame the numbers advantage and still got a pin on EOS guy. That's insane.

[Sam Roberts]

Well, guess what?

[Megan]

Shout out to Roxanne.

[Sam Roberts]

Shout out to Roxanne Perez. But obviously there. There's bad blood there with EO sky because Rhea Ripley came in to help EO sky this week, which is so interesting. Warriors didn't love it at all.

[Megan]

Well, you know, if I'm the Kabuki warriors, I don't know if I love it either, because where were they? What has been preventing Rhea Ripley from getting the Women's World Championship?

[Sam Roberts]

The fact that it was around the waist of Iyo Sky.

[Megan]

So now she's just helping you. Sky. I'm very confused.

[Sam Roberts]

She's not. Maybe she doesn't. It's not personal.

[Megan]

And then Oscar's like, stay out of our business.

[Sam Roberts]

Where were they? It's not their business. They didn't come out to help you.

[Megan]

Yeah. And they were in.

[Sam Roberts]

And last time they came out to help eo. Yeah, last time they came out to help eo, she lost, remember, to Roxanne Perez.

[Megan]

Oh, I remember.

[Sam Roberts]

I know you do.

[Megan]

Oh, I remember.

[Sam Roberts]

I know you do. Well, tonight it was your girl, Becky lynch that was victorious.

[Megan]

That's right.

[Sam Roberts]

Tonight, Becky Lynch. Victoria. And look, I will say, to Becky's credit, she has been handing out them IC Title shots.

[Megan]

That's right. She has been putting her title, intercontinental title is. It's the workhorse title, a title that should be defended. And I'm glad to see that the champion on the women's side for the intercontinental title is. Is doing so She.

[Sam Roberts]

I don't know why I. It feels like you're trying to get under my skin a little.

[Megan]

You know, it's really interesting because, like, I. I stick up for Roxanne. She's in the judgment day. And then when it comes to do, it's just kind of confusing. But anyways, Becky Lynch.

[Sam Roberts]

I'm just calling it like I see it. Becky lynch has been defending that title. Last week, Maxine. This week it was Natalia successful again, successful against Maxine. Last week, successful against Natalia tonight via tap out. And I think you could hear. I mean, I hope it translated over television. I know sitting out there in this beautiful arena, the Xfinity Mobile center, you could hear the audience kind of gasp at the fact that Natalia tapped Out and look, man, you know, I think the world of Natalia. She's an amazing human being. She's got a wrestling IQ like Einstein. I mean, she's incredible. And she's been here and accomplished more than just about anybody.

[Megan]

Guinness Book, a world record holder, 100%.

[Sam Roberts]

And she still comes out with a smile on her face, and she still comes out happy to be there. Except I turn on Bloodsport and I see Natty and she's got cornrows and she's not wearing any colors, and she doesn't look happy to be there. She looks ready to tear someone up, and she does. And I turn on Triple Mania, and I don't see Natalia. I don't see a smile. I don't see happy to be there. I don't see. You know, I'm just trying to push our women to be the best. It's. I'm here to beat people down. I'm here to tear people up. And I'm. And if I'm seeing this in AAA and Bloodsport, I'm seeing that Natalia is getting this sort of second wind to her career and showing people this whole other side that she's capable of and showing people this version of herself that I think could be, I mean, utterly dangerous in the wwe. I gotta ask, why is Natty not showing up on Monday Night Raw? Why is Natalia showing up on Monday Night Raw?

[Megan]

Yeah, I'm glad you brought this up, because I thought about this a lot. I see. Obviously, the match is official. We saw the graphic yesterday. It's Becky and Natalia for the Intercontinental Championship.

[Sam Roberts]

And I saw it for tonight.

[Megan]

Yeah, you saw it yesterday. They put the graphic out, and I saw Becky put out a post on Instagram and she called out Natty and said, you know, I'm sick of Natalia. This is who I want to show up. And I'm not gonna lie, I gotta. I got a little nervous because if Nattie were to show up, I didn't want. As much as I love seeing Nattie in Bloodsport and in Triple Mania, I wasn't sure I wanted to see Nattie show up because I was afraid that Becky lynch might lose. But anyways, she is Becky Lynch.

[Sam Roberts]

Do we hear that? Huh? Huh? You thought Becky lynch was gonna lose? Becky?

[Megan]

Well.

[Sam Roberts]

Well, your cheerleader over here is changing her tune.

[Megan]

No, see, after tonight, it's.

[Sam Roberts]

Oh, I thought.

[Megan]

Because Becky lynch once again made history tonight, not only is she the greatest of all time, but now she's the best of all time as well.

[Sam Roberts]

I don't understand.

[Megan]

Well, she beat Natalia. Natalia's the best of all time. I mean, Becky's title was on the line, so Natalia's title had to be on the line as well. Right.

[Sam Roberts]

So you're saying Becky was already the goat.

[Megan]

Yeah, I mean, Sports Illustrated said it, too.

[Sam Roberts]

Oh, I didn't hear about that. So you're saying she's the goat. Natalia's called herself the boat. So you're saying that since Becky beat Natalia, that makes her the goat and the boat.

[Megan]

Do you want me to get Bron.

[Sam Roberts]

Breakker in here, see if his uncle's around out? I think I do. I don't know if he's as good a vocabulary as is with math, but I do. I'm trying. But, I mean, if you beat the boat, I guess you're the boat. Is that your argument?

[Megan]

Yeah. And then, I mean, she's the best of all time, and she's from the Hart family, so she's the best heart of all time. And Becky Beater. So I think. I think there's an argument to be made that Becky lynch might be the best heart to ever wrestle.

[Sam Roberts]

There's not an argument to be made.

[Megan]

I think she a path.

[Sam Roberts]

I mean, she's not in the Hart family, but she. There's Bret Hart, There's Jim the Anvil.

[Megan]

Neidhart, but there's Talia Neidhart property. So she was the best of all time, and then Becky Beater.

[Sam Roberts]

Okay, all right. No, I. I think that you're getting confused with titles and names. The title of Hart family is not. It's not a title.

[Megan]

Shout out to Becky because not only is she the greatest of all time, she's also the best.

[Sam Roberts]

The person who beats you is not in the Morant family.

[Megan]

I mean, they could take. I mean, Bron Bronson just takes shoes. You could take names. You could take whatever you want.

[Sam Roberts]

Bronson decided he was.

[Megan]

Now, like I said, what is it? Possession? Nine tenths? A lot?

[Sam Roberts]

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[Megan]

That's right.

[Sam Roberts]

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[Megan]

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[Sam Roberts]

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[Megan]

All three of your friends.

[Sam Roberts]

Yes. Join now, play the game and have a great time. Somebody not have. And by the way, how about this? We were just talking about the Natalia and Becky lynch match, and I got confused when you started asking if Natalia if Becky lynch was now in the Hart family. But I'll tell you one family. I'll tell you one family that isn't a fan of Becky Lynch.

[Megan]

Who's that?

[Sam Roberts]

The Bella family, Nikki. So Becky lynch does kind of decide. Came a little out of pocket, if you could admit that. Came a little out of pocket. Decided to beat up poor Maxine again for no reason.

[Megan]

There was a reason, though. I mean, which is Natty tapped out and then Maxine gets in the ring to put her hands on Becky. And it looked like self defense that.

[Sam Roberts]

When Becky was beating up Maxine looked like self defense.

[Megan]

Well, Maxine touched her first.

[Sam Roberts]

You'd be tough on a jury pool. You know, you'd be sitting there for weeks because this one juror will not stop. We are deadlocked, your honor. Yeah, no, I didn't see it that way, but if you saw it that way, I can respect your opinion.

[Megan]

No one puts their hands on you self defense.

[Sam Roberts]

Right, Right. I get in the fetal position. But everybody has a different way of handling it. Nikki Bella comes out and I was wondering if this.

[Megan]

I thought we were gonna have a moment between. Well, Nikki Bella's music hits.

[Sam Roberts]

Right.

[Megan]

And Sam, you love to point out.

[Sam Roberts]

Thought I love when people, like, even if they're in a rush to get to the ring, still have to do their moves. You know what I mean? Like, I love if, like, you know, like, like Matt Hardy needs help, but Jeff Hardy still has to do the Jeff Hardy dance before he can get to the ring. I love, I love if, like, you know, Penta is coming in to save Somebody, but he's still got to throw up a sero m and then he can run into the ring. And so. So you're saying that you were. You were wondering if this would be, like, what I love, if she would still have to do the kind of Bella shimmy.

[Megan]

Yeah.

[Sam Roberts]

Before she hit the ring.

[Megan]

Well. And the music hit and both you and I are in the audience.

[Sam Roberts]

Yeah, we did. I'm not gonna do it again. I'm not gonna do it again. But I did do it that time. I will be honest about that. But no, she didn't.

[Megan]

She means business.

[Sam Roberts]

She was all business. She came in the ring and took it to Becky Lynch. I do enjoy. I mean, they had an epic microphone battle two weeks ago. And I was wondering, because I said, I mean, there's just no way that Nikki Bella has had her comeuppance, especially after Becky lynch. From what Becky said two weeks ago.

[Megan]

Yeah.

[Sam Roberts]

I mean, it was like, this has to be met with physical force. It was crazy. It was crazy. And it was met with physical force. Nikki Bella comes out, clears the ring, takes out Becky Lynch. I mean, I am very interested, maybe even enthralled, you could say, at this idea of Becky lynch and Nikki Bella.

[Megan]

Becky has awoken something within Nikki Bella for sure.

[Sam Roberts]

For sure. Remember, we talked to Nikki Bella a few weeks ago here on this show, and she was being very candid and very, very honest about getting back into WWE and kind of finding her footing and, you know, making. Doing the moves the way she wanted to do her moves, like fitting in to this locker room, figuring out not just the, like, how do I get back? But, okay, now that you're back, why are you back? What are you doing here? And how do you fit in to the landscape that is the WWE women's division? And I think that you're right. I think that it awakens something. The same way we were talking to Bronson Reed about the fact that, like, the minute he all jokes aside, the minute he took those shoes off Roman's feet, for me, I was like, this is more than shoes. This is a defining characteristic. This is who Bronson Reed is. When you watch the show and you go, who are these characters that I'm watching? Once Bronson Reed takes those shoes, it's like, yeah, we know who this is now. Whether. And now you can make the choice to cheer or boo or whatever. And I think with Becky and Nikki, you're getting that same thing. You're figuring out, like, okay, before, who's Nikki Bella? Nikki Bella's. She's this legend that's back now.

[Megan]

Mm.

[Sam Roberts]

Okay. But, like, that's cool for the first appearance, that's cool for the second appearance. But now who's Nikki Bella? Cause she's not going home, right? And it's like, well, that's because she's not done. That's because she's got something to do and now she's got something to prove, and now she's kind of in line for this title that. I mean, under everybody's nose, Becky lynch is doing a lot for this Intercontinental Championship division on Monday Night Raw to the point where it's like we've had some. Some real intercontinental title matches, and now we're looking at a potential, whenever it happens of Nikki Bella and Becky lynch in 2025, potentially for an Intercontinental champion.

[Megan]

I mean, it's almost like everything that Becky touches just turns great.

[Bronson Reed]

Yeah.

[Sam Roberts]

I could think of one thing. So I'll tell you what wasn't great.

[Megan]

What was that?

[Sam Roberts]

Xavier woods didn't get the hat money. He was looking for the hat money, you know, Xavier woods trying to get this hat money. You know, he's been complaining about the hat. You said it was a trampoline. He's been complaining about this hat for, like, two weeks now. He shows up on raw.

[Megan]

I want to know what Penta did with it, though, because that's a tough hat to just dispose of.

[Sam Roberts]

Well, he threw it and it was almost like, well, Xavier woods can't pick it up now. And I don't know if Penta picked it up on his way out or they just left it. Maybe some. If we could find it. I'd love to get on fanatics, live with it and try to see if it's.

[Megan]

I mean, I'm sure it's not that hard to find. It's massive.

[Sam Roberts]

No, that's true. We could probably, like. We could probably go into space and see, oh, there's the Great Wall of China, there's what's his hat, you know, There it is right there. Yeah. No, that's actually a great point. Like, it can't be all that lost. It's. It's nine feet around. But, yeah, he said it's. Because he had said before, like, 12,000. I thought.

[Megan]

Yeah. And then shipping costs a lot of money.

[Sam Roberts]

I didn't think of the shipping.

[Megan]

Yeah.

[Sam Roberts]

Tonight he said $18,000.

[Megan]

Yeah. I thought it was like 12,087. Then he wanted shipping money too. I guess. Shipping prices are outrageous.

[Sam Roberts]

$6,000 to ship the hat. I mean, I'll drive it to you for Three. Is he gonna strap it to. No, I have to strap it to the roof like a Christmas tree, but I'll get it to you. No, he said he was Gonna beat the 18,000. And by the way, $18,000 is a lot to beat out of somebody.

[Megan]

He bought a lot of shoes with that.

[Sam Roberts]

That's a. Hell, yeah. But Bronson Reed will take them all. I'm not doing that. $18,000 is a lot to try to beat out of somebody, especially when it's Penta. Like, you're probably not gonna beat a ton of money out of Penta. And Xavier woods, unfortunately, tonight was able to beat exactly $0 out of penta. He left with. I mean, he left with the same amount that he came in with, which, as he put it, was zero dollars.

[Megan]

Yeah, he said he was gonna have to go, you know, get the. What was it, the pesos?

[Sam Roberts]

Yeah, he said he's gonna get $18,000 worth of pesos beaten out of Penta and then he was gonna go to the airport and convert it, which the airport is not the best way. They're not gonna give you the best rate. You gotta go to the bank.

[Megan]

Tomorrow is a little bit of an easier travel day. Doesn't have to.

[Sam Roberts]

He doesn't have to stop anywhere. Straight to the gate. No problem there. Yeah, but I guess they're not done because then they announced that next week in the uk it's going to be Penta versus Kofi. You know, I don't know that Kofi is going to have any better luck against Penta than Woods did. I mean, Penta had to deal with all. With both members of the New Day and Grayson Waller, since the New Day won't actually say he's a member, but he had to deal with all three of them. And he did it and he won. I don't think it's going to go any differently next week.

[Megan]

Yeah, the New Day. They got to get out. What has it been, like 58 days, did they say, in terms of mourning.

[Sam Roberts]

The Tag Team Championship? Yeah, I guess so.

[Megan]

50 some odd days. So they got to get out of that morning funk.

[Sam Roberts]

Well, I mean, what do they think they're going to win the Tag Team Championship by beating Penta for a hat?

[Megan]

Well, I mean, they just need Adam Pierce to give them the opportunity. And then I think they're.

[Sam Roberts]

Adam Pearce had a shoe in. I mean, Adam. Adam. I think Bronson Reed might be the shoe in. Adam Pierce.

[Megan]

See what you did there?

[Sam Roberts]

Had a lot to deal with tonight between Sheamus and Rusev. Between Naomi sending him packing. I mean, all that, and I feel like. And I don't know, last week, he had a lot of tension in our interview with him. He did not like me, I can tell you that for sure. He. I think he started okay with you, but then by the end did not like you either because you brought up Chelsea Green. Yeah, but I mean, it seemed like that tension only continued.

[Megan]

Speaking of Chelsea Green, I mean, there's a. There's a world title that's vacant.

[Sam Roberts]

You think Chelsea Green makes her way over here?

[Megan]

I don't know. She's always looking for an opportunity on nxt, on smackdown, whatever.

[Sam Roberts]

She is an opportunist. And that's Secret Harvest. I'd love to see it. I'd love to see. Yeah. I mean, do you think that a new champion should be crowned and then that champion should face Stephanie Vacair or Stephanie Vacair? Because Clash of Paris is not that far away.

[Megan]

Well, I don't think Stephanie Vacair should just become the champion. I mean, she has a relationship.

[Sam Roberts]

No, no, no, no, no. She's got a. She's a contender. Yeah, but does she get to be one of many contenders or do they have another match with many contenders and then the first challenger is Stephanie because she's the number one contender. Or maybe there's a contender match that she has an advantage in because she's the number one contender. It's tough, right?

[Megan]

It is tough. I was really looking forward to Stephanie back here and Naomi.

[Sam Roberts]

Me, too.

[Megan]

Processing this. All right now, as you speak, live in time.

[Sam Roberts]

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[Megan]

What?

[Sam Roberts]

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[Megan]

I did last week, yeah.

[Sam Roberts]

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[Megan]

Where did that come from?

[Sam Roberts]

That's Bane in Dark Knight Rises. I love Dark Knight Rises.

[Megan]

Just pull that one out.

[Sam Roberts]

But, I mean, there's a lot of Bane references that are swimming through my head all the time.

[Bronson Reed]

I was born in the Zar.

[Sam Roberts]

So tonight was massive. And we still have another Monday Night Raw to go until Clash in Paris. But this Friday is where we start seeing what Europe has for us. Those, those European crowds are always. They're notoriously loud, enthusiastic. I cannot wait to see what John Cena returning on Smackdown.

[Megan]

I'm just glad that he's not gonna call out another fat Belgium kids.

[Sam Roberts]

I mean, these poor Belgium kids. I'm, I'm. I'm glad that. Yeah, yeah. In Ireland, they're getting the best John Cena.

[Megan]

Good for them.

[Sam Roberts]

They're getting. They're getting a smile for Ireland. I'm happy for Ireland. And then over to England for Monday Night Raw, the last Raw before Clash in Paris. I cannot wait to see it. We will be back here next Monday to recap everything that goes down in the UK on the Raw recap. Make sure you. You're subscribed across all audio podcast feeds. That's Apple, that's Spotify. Wherever you get your audio podcast and if you're watching on the WWE's YouTube channel, hit like, leave comments, tell all your friends, and we will see you again very, very soon here on the Raw recap.