LA Knight prepares for Gunther | The Judgment Day are BACK: Raw recap, Dec. 1, 2025

Summary

Raw Recap with Sam Roberts & Megan Morant

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Episode Title: LA Knight prepares for Gunther | The Judgment Day are BACK (Raw Recap, Dec. 1, 2025)
Release Date: December 2, 2025

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Episode Overview

Sam Roberts and Megan Morant deliver a lively and insightful breakdown of the December 1st, 2025 edition of Monday Night Raw, now airing on Netflix. The duo dives deep into the fallout from Survivor Series War Games, the mysterious masked man's identity, monumental title implications, and the surging momentum of superstars like LA Knight, Gunther, and Liv Morgan. This episode also features an immediate backstage interview with LA Knight following his John Cena tournament victory and examines the evolving dynamics of The Judgment Day and the women’s division.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

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1. War Games Fallout & The Masked Man Mystery

• Paul Heyman's Evasive Answers
  • Megan points out Paul Heyman's insistence that he doesn’t know the identity of the masked man who interfered at War Games, questioning his credibility.
    • “If it really was a situation where Paul Heyman had nothing to do with that, he would be a little more or a little less, I would say, lackadaisical about finding out who exactly it was.” — Megan (02:51)
• Seth Rollins Suspicion
  • Rumors swirl as Seth Rollins was spotted at War Games with no arm sling, despite being “injured.”
    • “No sling at War Games. No sling on his shoulder. Now look, he's got every reason to be at War Games. His wife was in a war games match. But odd that he didn't have the sling...” — Megan (03:58)
    • Sam and Megan speculate: could Rollins have been the masked man, perhaps with intentions to hurt CM Punk rather than to help Bron Breaker?
• Adam Pearce’s Investigation Priorities
  • Sam notes that although Pearce is determined to unmask the War Games instigator, he overlooks other ongoing injustices, particularly officiating issues.

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2. Bron Breaker’s Rise and the January 5th RAW Main Event

• Vision's Announcement / New Faction Dynamics
  • The Vision—now with Logan Paul—dominated Raw, with Heyman and Bron Breaker forcefully securing a World Heavyweight Title match against CM Punk for the first Raw of 2026 at Barclays Center.
    • “The first raw of 2026, January 5th. That's the night in the Barclays Center in Brooklyn where Braun Breaker gets his shot at CM Punk's World Heavyweight Championship.” — Megan (10:06)
• Braun Breaker: “The Future is Now”
  • The hosts underline Braun Breaker's rapid ascent, from being touted as "the future" to possibly becoming champion just a month into 2026.
• Promo of the Night – Breaker vs. Punk
  • Braun Breaker's promo labeled CM Punk a “soft ass bitch” (14:41). The promo included a callback to a private WrestleMania moment:
    • “You remember at WrestleMania when you pull me aside and said, congratulations, kid. Now let's see if you can cut a promo with the big dogs. Well, this is the promo.” — Breaker (15:39 recounted by Megan)
• Speculation on the WrestleMania Title Picture
  • With Breaker's momentum and the Punk match set, Sam and Megan ask if WrestleMania’s main event could look very different than fans assumed.

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3. Logan Paul and the Intercontinental Championship Angle

• Logan Paul, now tightly aligned with “The Vision”, intervenes in the Intercontinental Title scene and tangles with Rey and Dominik Mysterio.
• Memorable Rey Mysterio Line:
  • “My bastard son Dominic Mysterio.” — Rey (16:49)
    • Megan and Sam riff on WWE’s complex parental storylines, hearkening back to the infamous “custody on a pole” match.
    • “Imagine if... you're like, you know how I know who my dad is? I watched him win my custody in a ladder match.” — Megan (17:46)

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4. Exclusive Backstage Interview: LA Knight Post-Victory

(22:38–40:06; highlighted by quotes)

LA Knight joins Megan and Sam immediately after advancing to the finals of the “John Cena: The Last Time is Now” tournament, moments after defeating Jey Uso.

Reflections on His Career Arc

• “It always feels like there's forces trying to tug at the cape a little bit, keep Superman down. But at the end of the day, man, I don't know how to quit. I don't know how to stop.” — LA Knight (23:19)

His Approach to Facing Gunther & The Tournament Stakes

• LA Knight expresses respect for John Cena but clarifies he’s focused on business, not dream matches:
  • “I'm not really a dream match guy. I don't care about that. I'm here to make money. I'm here to win championships, if I'm honest... if I end up in that ring with him and I get the 1, 2, 3... I gotta be damn moving in that direction, wouldn’t you say?” — LA Knight (25:05)
• On preparation for Gunther or Solo Sikoa:
  • “It just feels like the cards are just being stacked against me... they're just pulling from the bottom of the deck.” — LA Knight (28:22)
  • Feels overlooked compared to “unstoppable forces” like Gunther.

Mindset and Fan Support

• On believing in himself despite setbacks:
  • “My entire career is predicated on blind, damn near idiotic faith... Just believing that, hey, I've got something here, and I gotta keep pushing because at plenty of times I've been at places where most people probably would have quit and probably would have been smart to quit...” — LA Knight (35:18)
• On his “selfishness” and old-school wrestling mentality:
  • “It is a selfish business, and I'm in it for money. I'm in it to win championships. I'm in it to be the best. But at the same time, if I can leave a good mark on this thing, I'm not opposed to it.” — LA Knight (36:58)

Unique Attire & Influence

• Megan compliments LA Knight’s sneaker-inspired wrestling boots:
  • “I don't think that there is anybody that is more sneaker influenced in the world of professional wrestling without wearing sneakers than La Knight...I recognize the 11 inspired boots, the 12 inspired boots.” — Megan (39:27)
• LA Knight details creating custom, Jordan-inspired boots since 2016.

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5. Jey Uso's Emotional Unraveling

• After his tournament loss to LA Knight, Jey experiences a “crash out”—throwing over hydration stations and revisiting old insecurities.
  • “You go 48 hours ago, you were sitting on top of a war games cage yeeting with 45,000 people. And two days later, you're crashing out, dumping over a hydration station all over the steel stairs.” — Megan (45:32)
• Jey hears “voices” and references Roman Reigns, saying the title looks better on his cousin. Sam and Megan reflect on the cyclical doubts and triumphs of Jey’s year—from Royal Rumble winner to ex-champion—contrasting Jey’s doubts with LA Knight’s “idiotic faith in himself.” (49:12)

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6. Solo Sikoa, Gunther, and Tournament Momentum

• Despite losing to Gunther, Solo Sikoa impresses with his hard-hitting offense and physicality. Sam and Megan praise Sikoa’s underrated value and Gunther’s opportunism.
  • “I would call him an unstoppable force, but I don't want to get La Knight upset again.” — Sam (50:31)

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7. The Judgment Day Reignited: Liv Morgan’s Return

• Liv’s Increasing Influence
  • Liv Morgan’s return electrifies The Judgment Day and the women’s division.
    • “Ever since I've been gone, you guys have less gold. You're losing. What happened. And she's right.” — Megan (57:49)
• Group Dynamics
  • Noted tension as Liv and Dominik arrive together in a lowrider, reminiscent of Rey Mysterio’s legacy. Liv calls out the group’s recent failures and steps into an assertive leadership role.
  • Subtle skepticism from Judgment Day members; Finn Balor visibly reacts to Dom’s implication that the group expected to fail at Survivor Series.
    • “When [Dom] said the Judgment Day’s plans failed, you saw for a minute, Finn Balor was like, what?” — Megan (57:30)

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8. Women’s Division Shakeup: Tag Scene Expands

• An explosive closing segment sees Roxanne and Raquel holding the Women’s Tag Titles high after a chaotic main event featuring Alexa, Charlotte, Rhea, Io, the Kabuki Warriors, and more.
• Liv Morgan’s ambitions appear to extend to leading Judgment Day—and guiding Roxanne and Raquel—back to championship gold.
  • “I truly do think that Liv Morgan is focused on getting the entire Judgment Day back to holding gold.” — Megan (63:00)
• Megan observes, however, that Liv’s standards are high: “If anybody in that group doesn’t hold their weight, Liv’s going to drop them like a bad habit.” (63:09)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments (with Timestamps)

• “Paul Heyman said that Logan Paul fits perfectly in the vision of the future of WWE. And he really does.” — Sam & Megan (09:04)
• “Braun Breaker described CM Punk as a 'soft ass bitch.'” — Sam (14:41)
• “CM Punk came to me and said, let's see if you can cut a promo. And I took that personally.” — Megan (15:59)
• “It always feels like there's forces trying to tug at the cape a little bit, keep Superman down. But at the end of the day, man, I don't know how to quit.” — LA Knight (23:19)
• “My entire career is predicated on blind, damn near idiotic faith...believing that I've got something here, and I gotta keep pushing.” — LA Knight (35:18)
• “Jey Uso talking about the voices that are talking to him...all the voices in his ears.” — Megan (46:48)
• “Liv Morgan is focused on that singles women's world championship...she specifically said the Judgment Day is weak. But don’t worry, 'cause now I'm back.” — Megan (58:38)

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Segment Timestamps (approximate)

• War Games Fallout/Mystery: 02:12 – 05:49
• Breaker vs Punk / Vision Announcement: 09:04 – 15:59
• LA Knight Backstage Interview: 22:38 – 40:49
• Jey Uso's Breakdown: 44:50 – 50:08
• Judgment Day & Liv Morgan: 54:25 – 59:05
• Women’s Tag Team Chaos: 62:00 – 63:18

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Final Thoughts

Sam and Megan bring their signature blend of humor, analysis, and insider energy to this full throttle recap. The episode underscores the shifting power dynamics across Raw—a surging protagonist in LA Knight, the unpredictable future of the World Heavyweight Title, and The Judgment Day’s major reconstitution under Liv Morgan. Genuine insight into superstars’ mindsets—especially through the extended LA Knight interview and the psychological spotlight on Jey Uso—gives listeners both context and emotional stakes going into the next chapter of WWE on Netflix.

For fans: This episode is the definitive backstage primer for everything you need to know coming out of December’s first Raw as the road to 2026 (and WrestleMania 42) kicks into high gear.

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Transcript

[La Knight]

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[Sam]

Guys.

[Megan Morant]

Thanks for helping me carry my Christmas tree, Zoe. This thing weighs a ton.

[La Knight]

Drew Ski, lift with your legs, man.

[Sam]

Santa.

[Megan Morant]

Santa, did you get my letter? He's talking to you britches.

[La Knight]

I'm not.

[Megan Morant]

Of course he did.

[La Knight]

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[Megan Morant]

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[La Knight]

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[Megan Morant]

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[La Knight]

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[Megan Morant]

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[La Knight]

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[Megan Morant]

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[La Knight]

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[Megan Morant]

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[Sam]

We are back.

[Megan Morant]

We are back. Back to recap.

[Sam]

So back.

[Megan Morant]

We'Ve got. I've got a lot to say about Liv Morgan and her impact on the Judgment Day. Her impact on Monday Night Raw. I mean, I cannot wait. Star power beyond. Star beyond. Star power. But when you talk about star power, you have to talk about the Vision. I think coming out of War Games, the conversation that was on a lot of fans minds was who was that masked man? Paul Heyman said to Adam Pierce's face. And Paul Heyman is not one to lie.

[Sam]

Come on.

[Megan Morant]

Paul Heyman said to Adam Pierce's face, I do not know who was under that mask. I don't know who that was. I feel like if it really was a situation where Paul Heyman had nothing to do with that, he would be a little more or a little less, I would say, lackadaisical about finding out who exactly it was. But maybe he goes, look, I don't know. And I'm not concerned.

[Sam]

Listen, Paul Heyman had an agenda, a very specific agenda to get to tonight on Monday Night Raw, and that involved Paul Bron Breaker.

[Megan Morant]

Yeah, I understand. I understand. Adam Pierce had a specific agenda to get to, which was who interfered in the War Games match. Which, by the way, we still don't know who that masked man was.

[Sam]

We don't.

[Megan Morant]

Eddie, who is at this point the most dependable referee. He's not, you know, being involved in questionable matches with an intercontinental championship. He. He's not refusing to count for other intercontinental champions.

[Sam]

That's right. That's right.

[Megan Morant]

He's just there to do his job.

[Sam]

He's not cheap like other referees.

[Megan Morant]

Daniello. No, he is not. He doesn't mind spending. But in this case, Eddie was sent on a specific assignment to get in, like to get into these locker rooms and figure out who is saying what. And all he came up with was that nobody on that roster knows who the masked man was. But people keep bringing up the fact, and I saw these photos. People keep bringing up the fact that Seth Rollins was photographed in the building. In the building. No sling at war games. No sling on his shoulder. Now look, he's got every reason to be at War games. His wife was in a war games match. But odd that he didn't have the sling and odd that he was. That he was in the building.

[Sam]

Coincidental, it could be Seth Rollins.

[Megan Morant]

It couldn't be.

[Sam]

I mean, it could be Seth Rollins, but based on what happened between Bron Breaker and Seth Rollins, why would Seth Rollins help Bron Breaker?

[Megan Morant]

Maybe he wasn't doing it to help Bron Breaker. Maybe he was doing it to hurt CM Punk. And I mean, who has more motivation to hurt CM Punk than Seth Rollins? I'm with you.

[Sam]

I'm playing devil's advocate and what you're saying makes sense. It's just like with what happened at SummerSlam. Did this really happen again with Seth?

[Megan Morant]

That's what it. That's what I was going to ask you. Are you one of these people? That's Like, Seth Rollins can't fake another injury, because I'm really not. And by the way, I don't believe people actually are like, if you listened to the audience, could do it. Yeah, he could. If you listen to the audience in San Diego for a moment when they saw the Stomp and they were like, could it be Seth? People went nuts for the possibility. I mean, I, I, I think it would be insane. I don't. I mean, I don't think it's Seth Rollins.

[Sam]

I don't think it's Seth either.

[Megan Morant]

But so far, there's, I mean, there was no evidence to the contrary presented on Monday Night Raw. If we're looking at what has furthered this story right now, the only information added to the story was Paul Heyman takes no ownership. Mm. And Seth Rollins was in the building and not wearing a sling. It's key that he was not wearing a sling.

[Sam]

That's all we know.

[Megan Morant]

That's it.

[Sam]

And I just find it very interesting that Adam Pierce has been so invested in getting to the bottom of this, but hasn't been focusing on other injustices that have been happening within wwe.

[Megan Morant]

Interference in the main event of War Games, but not other injustices.

[Sam]

I mean, with the officiating. There's a clear officiating problem in wwe.

[Megan Morant]

Well, I hope that it's cleared up by the end of the year, because what we did find out was that Bron Breaker and Paul Heyman go into Adam Pierce's office, and Paul Heyman says, last night or Saturday night, Bron Breaker pinned the World Heavyweight Champion. I think we have something to discuss. And they all go into that office together. And Adam Pierce, I mean, he just looked like the last person in the world that he wanted to talk to was Paul Heyman.

[Sam]

Well, it's probably. Becky lynch is last. Paul Heyman is second to last.

[Megan Morant]

That's probably right.

[Sam]

Chelsea Green third to last.

[Megan Morant]

Chelsea Green is third to last. Good for Chelsea that she's on that list. That's a really. That's up to list of elite talent.

[Sam]

Yes.

[Megan Morant]

You know as well to be on it, but you got to take these meetings sometimes. I mean, clearly he wasn't able to take a Becky lynch meeting because if you're looking at Twitter, Becky lynch was not at Raw. She will not be covered on Raw recap because she didn't do anything on.

[Sam]

Raw because she's protesting.

[Megan Morant]

Well, she's boycotted Monday Night Raw.

[Sam]

Yeah. Protesting. And I'm. I will wear Becky lynch shirt on the Raw recap show until justice.

[Megan Morant]

She's publicly Gone on Twitter, trying to get me fired from my other employment. Me, specifically. Not generally, literally.

[Sam]

Or your morals.

[Megan Morant]

What are you talking. I can't get into it. I can't, I can't. It will give me such Ajita heartburn, the whole thing. I can't even do it. You are an insane person.

[Sam]

It's been a long week of your suspension.

[Megan Morant]

Yeah, listen, listen. And maybe, maybe you also seem to want to.

[Sam]

Were you the. You want to talk about Braun Breaker and Paul Heyman? Because we can. We can. Let's. Yep.

[Megan Morant]

Yes, exactly. Thank you. Thank you for getting me back on track. Because even though you knocked me off track, by the way. But thank you for getting me back on track. And I was complaining about you on the radio this morning that after, after everything I've done, you are still completely disloyal. However, that's neither here nor there. We're not talking about that right now. It's disgusting. But we're not talking about that right now. So the announcement gets made. Here comes the Vision. And by the way, shout outs to Barack Lesnar, shout outs to Drew McIntyre. Always love it when Paul Heyman gives the shout outs, shout outs to both of them. But while the shout outs are being had in the ring, Logan Paul is taking a seat in the Vision. This is not some group that was put together for War Games. This is Logan Paul kind of showing up. Be like, yeah, I'm. I'm here for this too. I'm here too.

[Sam]

Yeah. Paul Heyman said that Logan Paul fits perfectly in the vision of the future of wwe.

[Megan Morant]

And he really does. And he made an impact tonight, which we'll get to in just a moment. But he makes the announcement that on January 5th, you remember the first raw of 2025 was a massive, massive Monday Night Raw. The first Raw ever on Netflix from Los Angeles, California. You had CM Punk and Seth Rollins, you had Rhea Ripley winning the Women's championship. Yeah, all this stuff.

[Sam]

Oh, Ria and Liv.

[Megan Morant]

That was Ria and Liv Morgan.

[Sam]

Amazing.

[Megan Morant]

Roman Reigns. Roman Reigns solo Sokoa, the final boss was there. It was amazing. So the first raw of 2026, January 5th. That's the night in the Barclays center in Brooklyn where. Where. Where Braum Breaker gets his shot at CM Punk's World Heavyweight Championship. There are all these rumors right after War Games. Could this be the WrestleMania match? We're going right to the first Raw, which has become, you know, in recent history, a premium live event caliber show into and of itself. And the headline match right now is Bron Breaker versus CM Punk for the World Heavyweight Title. That is huge. Because Braun Breaker is this guy that has always been positioned as potential, the future. And he's surrounded by other people, whether it's Paul Heyman, whether it's Brock Lesnar, Bronson, Reed, Logan, Paul. And it's like. But you're looking. And go, one day, One day, one day. And at War Games, he pinned the World Heavyweight Champion.

[Sam]

And you said, is that day sooner than we anticipated?

[Megan Morant]

Boom.

[Sam]

Because that's what I was thinking.

[Megan Morant]

Right?

[Sam]

Always the future. But is the future five years from now? Is the future three years from now? Oh, wait. The future might be in a few months.

[Megan Morant]

Listen, one. Not a few. One month. This is one month. This is not. You don't want to believe that we've got less than a month left in 2025, but that happens to be the truth. It's one month away. Is this episode of Raw that we're talking about where Braun Breaker gets his opportunity at the WWE World Heavyweight Championship. Paul Heyman called Braun Breaker the future of WrestleMania. What if Braun Breaker walks into WrestleMania 42 as the world Heavyweight Champion?

[Sam]

Look, it's a possibility.

[Megan Morant]

Everybody's sitting there going like, can you imagine if Brom Breaker goes for the world title at WrestleMania? Can you imagine if in the Royal Rumble, 30 men are competing to see who gets the honor to challenge the World Heavyweight Champion, Braun Breaker at WrestleMania? It's literally one match away from happening.

[Sam]

I mean, it's pretty wild because I think back to the Raw after Braun Breaker and Bronson Reed took out Seth Rollins and Bron Breaker arrives at the. At the arena. He has the World Heavyweight Championship over his shoulder, and he's walking next to Paul Heyman and Bronson Reed. And it looked. It looked right.

[Megan Morant]

I mean. Yeah, you're right. It did look right.

[Sam]

It looked right.

[Megan Morant]

Holding it up at the end of the show, having it the next week. It looked really amazing. Can you imagine if Seth Rollins is really injured? If he's as injured as he says he is and doesn't have any masks or anything, If Seth Rollins really doesn't come back for several months and when he does get back to the WWE to get his revenge, he walks into a WWE where Brom Breakker is the reigning defending World Heavyweight Champion.

[Sam]

I would love that.

[Megan Morant]

I mean, can you. Like, how do you even. The whole world has shifted.

[Sam]

Yes.

[Megan Morant]

And this is the type of stuff that happens on that first Raw the year. This is the stuff that happened for the whole year, for 2026.

[Sam]

I mean, it's sort of the beginning of WrestleMania season one royal. The royal Rumble.

[Megan Morant]

You could say Royal Rumble is. Some people say War Games is.

[Sam]

Yeah.

[Megan Morant]

But realistically, when you are setting the reason that this first Raw of the year exists, the day one Raw, whatever you want to call it, and it's, it's. It's the same Raw where the. Where. Where the Rock came back a few years ago and really said those first sentences that started the build to what would be WrestleMania 40.

[Sam]

Where he sits at the table.

[Megan Morant]

Exactly.

[Sam]

Yeah.

[Megan Morant]

You know what I mean? You go to the. The. To the year after, and that's Netflix first RAW where you're building to 41. And you're right. I mean, but there is. There's nothing about this. Because you could say right now, well, no, I mean, you know, I think we've all been assuming CM Punk's going to defend the World Heavyweight Championship at WrestleMania. We've all been assuming this.

[Sam]

That's what I was assuming until tonight.

[Megan Morant]

That's what I mean. Like, there is. There's nothing that says that this wouldn't happen. That, that would. Like, why wouldn't. Why wouldn't. If they want to charge into 2026, why wouldn't that first draw be the night that, like, something shocking happens? Why wouldn't that night be the night that Braun Breaker is like, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. We're not telling you that this guy's going to be the future someday. This is the guy right now. And I dare anybody to tell me different. That's the position that Bron Breaker could be in.

[Sam]

And I tell you what, when he spoke on the mic tonight, don't even get no doubt, no doubt in my mind that he belongs in that position.

[Megan Morant]

The best thing in wrestling is when you're watching with a friend. You and I are watching together.

[Sam]

Yep.

[Megan Morant]

And just a line gets said and you just look at each other at the same time, like, whoa. Wow. When Braun Breaker has that microphone and is already cutting this, this incredibly intense promo. What did he say about CM Punk? How does he describe him?

[Sam]

He described CM Punk as a soft ass bitch.

[Megan Morant]

Oh, my goodness. Oh, my goodness.

[Sam]

That was the first time we looked at each other and said, whoa.

[Megan Morant]

Okay, here we go, here we go. Then he. He pushes forward to what happened at War Games and the fact that, like, he took that doomsday device, landed on the back of his head and says, CM Punk almost broke my neck. He said, I'm going to take everything from CM Punk. I'm going to ruin the vision that everybody has of CM Punk. And then he said, I don't know. And then it's like, oh, this is real life. This is it. We're not playing wrestling. This is real life. When Bron Breakers. And this is. Because this is one of those things like, that comes up in a promo that you're like, there's an arena full of people and millions watching at home on live tv. And we're all saying, I didn't know this happened. This was a personal thing that happened. When he says, you remember at WrestleMania when you pull me aside and said, congratulations, kid. Now let's see if you can cut a promo with the big dogs. Well, this is the promo.

[Sam]

We said, well, la dee da, this is the promo.

[Megan Morant]

And I'm like, it gave me. I mean, this is Bron Breaker's moment where he held the iPad and he looked at the documentarian and he said, and I took that personally. Yeah.

[Sam]

Because we didn't see that interaction. No CM Punk and Bron Breaker. But it happened.

[Megan Morant]

CM Punk came to me and said, let's see if you can cut a promo. And I took that personally. Oh. And it's just. And you know, and it.

[Sam]

He's been thinking about it every single day, every day since WrestleMania 41.

[Megan Morant]

Because it came right off till now.

[Sam]

It's December 1st.

[Megan Morant]

You could see. You could feel it. Like, as he said it, it was like, I've been wanting to say this. I've been wanting to scream this for a long time. I mean, he wants to beat up CM Punk.

[Sam]

I can't wait.

[Megan Morant]

It's. It's unbelievable. So we got that. We got no Mass man news. And then, of course, Logan Paul had himself a night along with the vision. Not only got to be a part of this, but may have his eyes. I don't know if he has his eyes on the Intercontinental Championship or just wants to make sure that nobody else has their eyes on the Intercontinental Championship because he interrupted. Rey Mysterio.

[Sam]

My favorite part of Monday Night Raw tonight was when Rey Mysterio referred to his son Dominic as his bastard son.

[Megan Morant]

My. My bastard son Dominic Mysterio. And I'm like, bro, you weren't married like when you had. When you had Dominic.

[Sam]

Wait, are we sure Ray is his dad?

[Megan Morant]

Oh, that is Ray saying that Eddie is Dominic. Are we going back to.

[Sam]

I don't know.

[Megan Morant]

Summerslam02?

[Sam]

Maybe.

[Megan Morant]

I mean, I still have questions about that ladder match. How. How.

[Sam]

How legal was that the first instance of child abuse?

[Megan Morant]

The fact that he won his custody in a ladder match? I think if you asked Dominic, you.

[Sam]

Would say the fact that he put his custody, Custody up in a ladder match, is that child abuse?

[Megan Morant]

I mean, to an extent. I mean, listen, it's emotionally scarring one. And those are the scars that last.

[Sam]

You know, those are the scars that make you go on Sports Center.

[Megan Morant]

Imagine if. Imagine that if you're like. You're like, you know how I know who my dad is? And I was like, how, Megan? And you were like, I watched him win my custody in a ladder match. You don't think you'd have some, like, inner turmoil, would you?

[Sam]

Of course.

[Megan Morant]

Okay.

[Sam]

Absolutely.

[Megan Morant]

I love that you've come around on.

[Sam]

The domestic Dominic, so well.

[Megan Morant]

I love that you've come around on this and realized maybe there's a lot of truth in what Dominic is saying. Rey Mysterio went on tv. Not only did he say Dominic was a bastard, which is crazy talk for your dad to say. That's a wild, wild, wild thing for your dad to say on television. But also then Rey Mysterio looks at Logan Paul and he said, you're the only person who might be a bigger ass than my own son. And it's like, bro, I know that there's problems, but what the hell?

[Sam]

It's also just 48 hours removed from his son winning the Intercontinental championship.

[Megan Morant]

That's another thing. That's another thing. By the way, John Cena was intercontinental champion. You didn't hear Rey Mysterio going, oh, I want to be intercontinental champion. You're right. He was like, good for John. His son wins the Intercontinental title, and Ray goes, you know what? I'd like to have the Intercontinental title.

[Sam]

This is like, you know, they talk about this a lot in therapy when parents actually become jealous of their child.

[Megan Morant]

This is all these kids that get emancipated in Hollywood. This is not the.

[Sam]

There's a lot of that going on, too. Yeah.

[Megan Morant]

Free Dominic. That's what I say. Free Dominic. This is terrible. I can't believe it. Especially as Dominic, I mean, is having the time of his life. We'll get to Dominic in a moment, but we, we, we. We have to get to La Knight. Yes, we spoke to La Knight immediately after his match with Jay USO in the John Cena tournament. I mean, immediately he came through the curtain, walked to his dressing room, and we were right there waiting for him. But before we get to La Knight, I want to tell you about Aura frames. Aura is the perfect holiday gift. They are amazing. You will be the star of the holiday season. The Dominic Mysterio of the Holidays is what they're saying. That's what they call it. The greatest holiday gift giver of all time. Like Dominic is the greatest Mysterio of all time. You'll roll in, in those gold glasses in that beautiful mullet and they'll go, what makes you feel so confident that you can pull off this look? And then you go look under the tree and they'll pull it out from under the tree and you'll see this aura. And I mean, let me tell you something, These aura frames, they ship in these beautiful gift boxes, right? So you don't even need to wrap them. There's no price tag on them. There's no nothing. You preload them. This is where it gets crazy. You preload them with pictures of you, with pictures of the kids, with pictures of the family. You give them to your parents. It's already preloaded on the app.

[Sam]

Even a picture of Dominik Mysterio, I.

[Megan Morant]

Would put a bunch of pictures of Dominik Mysterio on there. Cause it's unlimited. That's the thing. You can upload unlimited pictures and videos. So you throw Dominic on there as well. So you know, it's just something nice to look at. And you open a gift and this is one of these gifts that just lasts forever and ever and ever. You share photos and videos effortlessly, right? So if I wanted to like post a new photo of Dominik Mysterio, I just open the app, send it, it'll send right to the aura frame, right? So if I give it to, if I give it to my parents on Christmas, say Wrestlemania April, there's a great picture, Dominic. I'll put it right on the Aura app, no problem. It'll go right to their frame instantly and we will live that memory together. It's the gift that keeps on giving. That's exactly right. And the best part is, for a limited time, you can save on the perfect gift by visiting auraframes.com to get $35 off Aura's best selling Carver Matte frames. Name number one by Wirecutter, by the way, by using promo code RAW recap at checkout. That's a U R A frames.com promo code RAW recap. This deal is exclusive to listeners and frames sell out fast. So order yours now to get it in time for the holidays. Support the show by mentioning RAW recap at checkout. Terms and conditions apply. Now you talk about somebody that has a lot to be memorable. A lot of memories that are going to be locked in. Somebody that's making memories right now we're talking about LA Knight, one of the two that made it to the finals of the John Cena Last Time is Now tournament. And we got him immediately after that match tonight.

[La Knight]

You hear that? That's not just a Toyota truck. That's the sound of no crowds, no alerts, no distractions, and no telling what you'll find next. You know, like a detour. So why would you ever take a tour when you could take a detour? Toyota trucks.

[Megan Morant]

I mean, literally, fresh out of the ring, fresh off of making it to the finals of the time is now John Cena tournament.

[La Knight]

The last time is now dummy. Come on, go ahead. Keep that in there.

[Sam]

Yes, please. Keep that in there.

[Megan Morant]

LA correct. No, you shouldn't. And you should be confident right now. You made it all the way to the finals. You were talking just on smackdown about. It feels like every time you almost get there, there's somebody to cut your legs out from under you. I mean, how do you feel in this moment? This is the first moment that you've had to realize that you've made it to the finals of this tournament, Man.

[La Knight]

It's. It's like. It's like my career just kind of. It rhymes a lot. I won't say that repeats, but it rhymes a lot. And what ends up happening is, again, it always feels like there's forces trying to tug at the cape a little bit, keep Superman down. But at the end of the day, man, I don't know how to quit. I don't know how to stop. And when you have that kind of a determination, there's no way that you can stop me from rising. Now, look, there's always going to be bumps in the road. Everything's not going to go perfect, but at the end of the day, I'm a little beat up. All power to Jey uso. He definitely brought it out there. Damn. I mean, on the brink of the win, he hit the splash right there. And just with that little boost of adrenaline, I was able to pull out the little roll up. Good God. But I tell you, I want to just get up and pace right now. I got so much adrenaline, everything going through me. I mean, literally walked right out of the ring and this guy just grabbed me, says, hey, let's throw you on camera real quick.

[Megan Morant]

I mean, it was amazing. And you could tell the adrenaline was going, but you were still in that frame of mind. I could see that. Like, while you had him in that crucifix roll up, you were also positioning your instincts, man. And just. And just Making sure, though, that that pin, if you were going to get the pin, that the pin was going to count, your arm was going to be positioned right, everything was going to be right. Because all it takes is that one moment. And you got that one moment when you, first of all, getting a win over Jey uso right now, as you know, you two are one of the two or two of the two top fan favorites in the industry. And so it was a big match, I think, in general, when you look forward. Right. And the possibility now one match away from John Cena's last match, when you think about it, is it about John Cena's career? Is it about what John Cena has done, or is it purely about you?

[La Knight]

Look, I know everybody out there. Everybody out there kind of does the whole thing of like, oh, you know, it'd be great to be John Cena's last opponent and this and that. Look, I got all respect in the world for John Cena. Everything that he's done. Greatest of all time. Yeah, he might be. And if that's the case and if that's what we're saying here, my thought is, at first I thought, I'm not really a dream match guy. I don't care about that. I'm here to make money. I'm here to win championships, if I'm honest. Let me just be 100% transparent with you. At the same time, I appreciate everything that's happened. I appreciate the fact that when I go out there, everybody jumps out of their seat and they say, yeah, because they just can't help but they're feeling that cavorka. That's what it is. And I appreciate the hell out of that. But at the same time, I got to look at this like a business because that's what it is. And so for me, it's a matter of fact that John Cena, greatest of all time, and if I end up in that ring with him and I get the 1, 2, 3, or who knows? I'm not a submission guy, but if I make the guy submit, hell, I don't know if that makes me the greatest of all time, but I gotta be damn moving in that direction, wouldn't you say?

[Megan Morant]

Yeah, pretty close.

[La Knight]

That's where my head is.

[Sam]

I would think so. But before you can even think about John Cena, there is an opponent that would come before John Cena and Gunter has a match later tonight. And Gunter has been this unstoppable force in wwe. How does one even think about going up against someone like Guenther?

[Megan Morant]

Or Solo, for that matter. You can say the same thing about Solo Sokoa, the people that he's been putting on, on their backs.

[La Knight]

And Solo and I have done the dance, you know, 100 different times. But with Gunther, you talk about. Well, first of all, I just want to say that that's why I'm a little bit uncomfortable doing this interview in the first place, because I feel like we're celebrating right now and I haven't done anything yet. Yeah, I want to match. Yeah, I'm moving on. But, like, I haven't won the thing yet. I haven't taken this thing over yet. I haven't risen to the top and said, hey, yeah, it's me. And John Cena. Hey, it's me. I beat John Cena. But that's okay, because here we are. I'm gonna not count my chickens at this point. And like you said, yeah, there's Gunther. He's a unstoppable force, this and that. But a lot of people say I'm an unstoppable force. Has anybody ever seen somebody walk into this place and take this place over the way that I did? If you look back to 20, 23 and you look how a lot of people wanted to go ahead and, you know, they wanted to count my demise a long time ago, they want to say, oh, this guy's gonna be a flash in the pan. Oh, he's gonna be a flavor of the month.

[Megan Morant]

Ha.

[La Knight]

Here we go. What, two, three years strong. Still running. Nothing's changed. I don't know if you heard when that three count went down. This. You want to talk about an unstoppable force? This is the unstoppable force. This is what is. I am what is.

[Megan Morant]

And instead of looking forward because you're right, that remains to be seen. You could talk about this tournament and everything that's happened in this tournament, and the fact is that. That you've been in positions that are unique only to you and your journey in this thing. I mean, go back to the first round and the idea that you've got a guy coming in, in Zack Ryder making his return, somebody that, you know the fans are going to be excited about, somebody that you know has gotten better and better and better and better in the time that he's been gone. And it would be very easy for you to be in a position where you're the credible guy that Zack Ryder beats on his way to beating John Cena. But. But even that moment wasn't too big to stop the kind of wave of Momentum that you're on.

[La Knight]

No. And you're talking about, what, two weeks in a row I got to do a mystery opponent. It just. You know, again, sometimes it just feels like the cards are just being stacked against me. I'm looking at the dealer. I'm trying to play a fair game here, and they're just pulling from the bottom of the deck. So I don't know, at the same time, let me just rewind just a little bit, because everything that I just said, you're talking about the unstoppable force, this, that, whatever. And that was kind of in response to what you were saying about Gunther. Now, I don't want to take anything away from. Everybody sees what he does. He said, super tough. You're talking about Solo Sikoa extra tough. You're talking about two guys who have hurt a lot of people and who've done a lot of damage around this place. But at the same time, when I hear that, I start to get just slightly offended. And I know you don't mean it that way, but I hear it that way because I'm like, oh, he's an unstoppable force. Well, who's talking about that? Like, me. Who's talking about, like, that about me? And so with that thought, you know, then I start thinking, well, hold on. Let's just rewind a little bit. Let's look at the history. Let's look at what's happened. Let's look at the things that I've done and I've gone through. Now look what one of those guys, at least Gunther has over me. World heavyweight champion. I ain't done that yet. So, yeah, you're looking at another thing where you got a guy who's got a little bit more credentials than I do, and you're talking about not only can I go in there and beat what you call unstoppable force, beating another former world champion like I did tonight, another feather in the cap there. So. But also Solo Sikoa again, man, he and I have been up and down the roads 100 different times. So to beat him also. And another guy who, don't forget, has beaten John Cena.

[Megan Morant]

That's right.

[Sam]

Yes.

[Megan Morant]

Solo Soko put about a dozen Samoan spikes into John Cena's neck. Let's go back, though. Let's go back a couple of years. Speaking of John Cena and your own history with John Cena and. And. And. And the. The. The interactions that you had, I want to say, in 2023, I felt like. And I remember specifically Watching that and noticing it, because I find that that especially in the last five years, when you see especially fan favorite modern WWE Superstars interacting with John Cena, they do it from a place of reverence. When I saw you do it, it struck me as you were coming from a place of respect, but it didn't seem like you wanted to put yourself in that reverence spot. It didn't say, it seemed like you were deliberately not to being disrespectful, but deliberately making sure that nobody saw you as being under the learning tree because you were your own Superstar. Did I interpret that correctly?

[La Knight]

You might agree or disagree with this, but in my mind, I'm putting myself on the same level as him. He's one of my peers. So in that sense, in this business, if he's one of my peers, I'm not going to look up to him again. I can respect everything that he's done. And again, people might call him the greatest of all time, he might be the greatest of all time. And I can recognize that all the things that he's done unseen 17, all this stuff. But with that being the case, I'm still not going to go in there and, you know, lather this guy up. And if you, if you look at our first interaction, the reason that I was that I don't want to get too in the weeds here, but there was a point in that match with Miz where he almost cost me the match. There was a little bit of a distraction, something happened. So I was a little bit hot on him at the end. So it wasn't like I was going to go up to him and give him a big hug and hey, man, that was great. So for me, it was a little bit of, hey, man, you almost cost me that whole damn thing. And you got to watch yourself and like, because look, he's been around a long time. I hadn't. So you could all. You could also say, well, maybe you should just kind of maybe walk on eggshells in that sense. No, no, we don't do that. As far as I'm concerned, it was, hey, I need to make my footprint here. And if I'm going to do that with no disrespect, again, respecting everything that he's done and understand that. But at the same time, I'm a man and if you're going to take potentially food off my plate, we got to talk about that. So, yes, I was definitely a little bit perturbed for the moment, but eventually we got to the handshake and we were good.

[Megan Morant]

I mean, when you look at a potential Saturday night's main event, do you think about that night and what it means for John Cena, or is that a complete afterthought? Because you are La Knight, and the way you operate is in. Is in the world that is known as La Knight, it's.

[La Knight]

It's tough to get that far ahead.

[Megan Morant]

Yeah.

[La Knight]

And it's especially tough to get that far ahead for somebody else. And I don't mean that in, you know, I don't see anybody else. I very much have an eye on other things that are going on and what other people doing and try and put myself in other people's, you know, in other people's shoes as much as I can in certain situations. But it's tough for me not to look at day by day because, you know, with everything that we talked about earlier, where it's like, it always feels like somebody's trying to tug on the cape, it always feels like somebody's trying to stack the deck. And with that being the case, it's kind of tough to look too far ahead because it's tough to really make plans because you almost have to just be always in the damn moment and present.

[Megan Morant]

Is there any part of you that when you're in a match with a guy like Jay uso, and, you know, you look at that referee and you know that third hand is coming down, you're about to win this match, is there any part of you that wonders, are they going to still cheer for me? I beat one of their favorites. Are they still going to cheer for me? Or does that not come into your head at all?

[La Knight]

No, that never came into my head, actually. But, you know, I definitely have thought about that in the sense of, like, man, are we kind of splitting the audience? Like, are we. Are we making the people choose? But I don't know. I'll be honest. While we were out there, it felt like the people weren't necessarily choosing so much as just kind of enjoying every moment. And I don't think we were out there. Jay and I don't have, like, necessarily an overtly personal issue, and I definitely were competitors, and we both wanted to win the match, but I don't think it was like a, you know, it's not a blood feud or anything. So I think, in a way, they were able to enjoy it in the sense that nobody was out to, you know, physically injure the other person beyond, hey, I want to get a three count and go on. So I think that that made it easy for the people to enjoy. Now, if one of us would have gone out there and tried to hurt the other one, you know, maybe then maybe we've got something to talk about. But no, you know, the only time I think about that is. Is when I let the people down, when I lose, when the three is getting counted against me. You know, you start to think like, okay, at what point will the people maybe start to lose faith and just go, ah, man, damn it. You know, we like this guy. We want this to happen, but it's just not going to happen. And so in that case, I think about that, certainly. But at the same time, you gotta. I really get on myself to not think about that and try and focus on not thinking about missing the shot, but always thinking about how I'm gonna make the shot.

[Megan Morant]

Yeah, it's really interesting hearing you phrase it that way, because it sounds like that's what fuels you. The idea is that if you don't have consistent, pure, blind, 100% faith in yourself, that you run the risk of the audience losing faith in you. And therefore, at no point, if I.

[La Knight]

Didn'T have that, I wouldn't be sitting here having this interview with you right now.

[Megan Morant]

That's right.

[La Knight]

My entire career is predicated on blind, damn near idiotic faith. You know, I mean, just. Just believing that, hey, I've got something here, and I gotta keep pushing because at plenty of times I've been at places where most people probably would have quit and probably would have been smart to quit in certain ways. But in all honesty, it's paid off in such amazing ways that I can't even describe to where the best thing that I did was blindly believe in myself like that. And so, yeah, I think that that's really all I can do. And whether. Whether the people come along with me or at some point they just go, you know, it's not going to happen. Doesn't matter. I can't. I can't focus myself on that. I appreciate every single bit of what they give me. I feed off of that stuff. As a matter of fact, I wouldn't be in the position I am without them, if I'm honest. Especially everything that happened with that and with how everything just blew up a couple years ago and now it's continued on. People made me. I can't take that away from them. And I thank them to the hilt. At the same time, let's say at some point, if they're not with me, I can't worry about that. I got to do me. I got to keep Doing me.

[Megan Morant]

I mean, I think there's something very almost old school about the idea that there is still a professional wrestler that really is in the business for themselves. And I mean that in a completely positive sense that, like, people have always said that the wrestling business is a selfish business. And if you want to be the star that you want to be, that's got to be how you live.

[La Knight]

Well, you know, and it's.

[Megan Morant]

But.

[La Knight]

But there's. There's different ways that you go about that, and there's different ways that that happens. And. And there are certain ways that I don't participate in that. Again, there are certain people who will undercut other people. Very cutthroat business, that kind of stuff. That's not the kind of stuff that I do. What I mean is the simple fact that this business, if I'm honest, if it gets the chance, it will chew you up and it will spit you out. Let's be honest. And for me, it's. How do I get ahead of that? How do I chew up the business? Spit it out or squeeze it for every bit of juice that I can get out of it. And that doesn't mean taking advantage of anybody that I'm with or anything like that or nothing like that. And at the same time, you still got to look at stuff, you know, even take it back the one time when I said the thing about the crying and whatnot, I still want to. It is a selfish business, and I'm in it for money. I'm in it to win championships. I'm in it to be the best. But at the same time, if I can leave a good mark on this thing, I'm not opposed to it. But at the same time, I'm just not the type of guy where I'm like, oh, it was my childhood dream to do this, that. Whatever. Now, look, was there a little bit of me that was just like, oh, my God, that'd be cool? Yeah. But I didn't grow up as a kid saying, oh, I'm going to be a wrestler. This wasn't a thing that happened to me till I was an adult. And I was like, oh, that's an actual job you can go do. Okay, yeah, I'm going to go do that. So. So for me, it's just kind of different in that sense. And, you know, stupid me, because, I mean, there's different ways to get in this business. But the way I got in it took me a long time, and it was a long, hard fight and climb to the top and. But finally I'm here and at this point, I'm rambling and I'm probably boring everybody to death.

[Megan Morant]

But.

[La Knight]

But, yeah, it's a selfish business. And because of that, you have to take selfish moments. And again. But I say that in a way where, again, it's not a matter of taking advantage of the people around you. It's not a matter of, you know, cutting other people's legs or throats or whatever you want to, you know, call it to where you're going to do that kind of stuff. I ain't in all that, but what I'm saying is I'm here to make sure that me and the people around me are taken care of. And I do this better than anybody in the world. So with that being the case, let's get this done.

[Megan Morant]

That's what I wanted to hear. That's what I was getting at. And I've got to tell you, as you were explaining how you got in the business and everything, it just clicked something in that could take this conversation into another hour. So I'm not going to go any further with it.

[La Knight]

I think I'm the whole show at this point.

[Megan Morant]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm going to let you go. We appreciate you.

[La Knight]

I got to go shower cleaned up here.

[Megan Morant]

Yeah. Spending some time with us. You can get dressed now over here.

[Sam]

Congrats on the win. Excited to see you in the next round.

[Megan Morant]

I'm excited, too. And by the way, and you just stood up in your trunks. And I just wanted to say, I don't know if anybody has said this about you, and I keep meaning to say it to you, and I always forget, but everybody talks about the sneaker influence in the world of professional wrestling. And I don't think that there is anybody that is more sneaker influenced in the world of professional wrestling without wearing sneakers than La Knight. I. I recognize the Jordan 3 cement on the side of the trunks. I recommend the 11 inspired boot. I. I mean, I recognize the 11 inspired boots, the 12 inspired boots. I see them all. I see them all.

[La Knight]

Well, so for me. So again, we're talking about how I got in the business. Old school, this, that. I was always, you wear boots when you're a wrestler, so let me have the boots. And probably, man, it had to have been 2014 that far back where I'd started in a notebook, drawing what I wanted. I want this, this, this. It was so hard to find a boot maker that could do it. Until finally, I think it was about 2016, I found some guy in Mexico. And so now get them custom made. Every few months, I'll get a pair sent up to me. I'll draw them up something. Here's what I want. Here's what I want. Here's the measurements. Da, da, da. And off we go. We got some custom LA knight12s here.

[Megan Morant]

That's sick. That's absolutely awesome. La Knight, congratulations on tonight. Thank you. We always appreciate you, dude.

[La Knight]

Hopefully you'll be telling me congratulations next week and then congratulations at Saturday night's main event.

[Megan Morant]

That's right.

[La Knight]

We'll see what happens. But Unstoppable Force, I think you said. Right. And you were talking about me.

[Megan Morant]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Thank you, man.

[La Knight]

Thank you.

[Megan Morant]

I mean, big thanks to La Knight.

[Sam]

Yeah. For that was great.

[Megan Morant]

And we did that interview, like I said, immediately after his match. We'd see him later in the night when he confronted Gunther after Gunther beat Solo SOA in another John Cena. Last time is now tournament match, which we'll talk about momentarily. I also want to talk about J uso post La Knight match, because I don't know that we'd seen the full Jay USO crash out in effect when we talked to La Knight before it all happened. But I will say I feel like your question made a big impact on him because if you look at his Twitter account right after the interview, on his way out to see Gunther, he was citing your question.

[Sam]

Yeah. He did not like that Gunter was.

[Megan Morant]

Called the Unstoppable Force and to the point where it felt like he was going out to confront Gunther. Why? Because scandalous Meghan Moran asked the question you got in his head and he was like, you know what? It's not enough that I talk to Sam and Megan about this. I got to go talk to Gunther.

[Sam]

About this face to face tonight. I was his and I took that personally moment.

[Megan Morant]

That's right. That's right.

[Sam]

That was me.

[Megan Morant]

This was. I mean, you were as muse and I mean, the fact that he looked right in Gunther's face, no fear whatsoever. I loved that conversation, by the way. With LA Night, I feel like we got to the bottom of a lot. He really is just one of these, like, old school wrestling stars.

[Sam]

Yes.

[Megan Morant]

And I can't wait to see this Gunther versus LA Night match. And I want to talk to you about it. And I want to talk to you about Gunther and about Jay uso. But I also want to talk to you about Raycon. These are Raycons right here. This message sponsored by raycon. If you're looking for a holiday gift, I've been using Raycon's essential open earbuds. And honestly, they're so good. So they sit. You just wrap them around, you know, and they sit outside your earbuds so they don't block everything out. You're still able to be present in life. You can. And they're very comfortable. See, See what they're. They're made of this. Like, very, very comfortable. These are perfect.

[Sam]

Running, can hear the traffic.

[Megan Morant]

Exactly.

[Sam]

Can hear the music.

[Megan Morant]

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[Sam]

A raw recap show. Little raw recap in the background, of course.

[Megan Morant]

Who doesn't want that? Sam in one ear, Megan in the other. Let you know what's going on. They're really light. And the ear hook. Wrote the ear hook part. It rotates so they actually stay in. I've worn them at the gym. I've worn them on walks, doing stuff around the house. They don't fall out and they don't get uncomfortable. And I think that that's the key.

[Sam]

I wore them at the gym as you. You flex.

[Megan Morant]

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[Sam]

Will know when you're not, when you're a celebrity, when you've made it, when.

[Megan Morant]

They dry right up. So. So, you know, not only did we see this confrontation between La Knight and Gunther, but once again, I mean, Jay USO is back to dealing, you know, with what I would medically call a gentle mental, where that. I mean, that. That mindset, I feel like the kids.

[Sam]

Would call it crashing out.

[Megan Morant]

He crashed out hard. Yeah, he dumped the whole hydration station.

[Sam]

I feel like there's been times in the past where we thought Jay might be crashing out. Right?

[Megan Morant]

No, this we're looking at a picture.

[Sam]

Right now on Crash Out.

[Megan Morant]

I mean, look at his face. That's a Crash out face if I've ever seen one in my life. I mean, and there's, there's, there's prime all over the place.

[Sam]

It didn't seem like it was the fact that he lost to La Knight. It was more so how he lost to La Knight.

[Megan Morant]

The crucifix roll up.

[Sam]

That's right.

[Megan Morant]

Yeah. Well, and then it was just one simple mistake again, and he lost. But I mean, I just can't. Like, how do you go. 48 hours ago, you were sitting on top of a war games cage yeeting with 45,000 people.

[Sam]

Yeah.

[Megan Morant]

And two days later, you're crashing out, dumping over a hydration station all over the steel stairs. People are thirsty and now they can't enjoy it. They can't be hydrated.

[Sam]

And about 15 minutes before this Crash out, he was yeeting in the crowd with the kids.

[Megan Morant]

He was yeeting in the crowd with the kids. He had the yeet glasses on. He had the green and the bright colors and everything. And then this goes down. I mean, you know, it's really, really interesting. Jey uso, like, he has this thing where he gets kind of his mind lined up. Like for a while it was like he didn't even want to. It didn't even seem like he wanted to see his brother Jimmy. And then all of a sudden, he and Jimmy are completely on the same page. We have the old USO's back and then 10. And it seemed like that up until the referee counted three and La Knight got his hand raised. And then not only do we see this crash out at ringside, but then on the way out of the building, he's at first not responding to Jackie Redmond, which is a sin in WWE world. And then when he finally does, I mean, it was kind of. I mean, it was strange. It was not. It was very unexpected for Jay to once again be talking about the voices that are talking to him. You know what I mean? All the voices in his ears, all.

[Sam]

The voices in his head. His cousin, right? His brother.

[Megan Morant]

But I thought that had kind of chilled out.

[Sam]

I thought so too. I thought Jay had figured that out. He had sorted out who he was, he had stopped taking everything so personally and thought, you know, I'm Jey uso and I won a world heavyweight championship as the single star that I became by myself. This is what worked. This is who I'm going to be. But now we have the Questions again of will that work, Right?

[Megan Morant]

You know what it makes me want to do? It makes me want to go find Jey USO and pull up the video of our conversation with Charlotte Flair on the Survivor Series recap podcast. When she talks about, you know what? You don't have to be perfect. You just go out there and be you. Everybody loves Jey uso. Yeah. I can't believe that we're stuck in this place again. And then on his way out, he said Roman was right. First of all, like, Roman's back in the head. Roman's back in the head. And Roman's like, bro, like, this isn't. I'm not doing this. He said, Roman was right. The championship does look better on his shoulders, not mine. And you're like, come on, dude, what are you. What are you saying? Everybody wants Jey uso to succeed. And by the way, like, when you look at this calendar year, we were talking about, the first raw of 2026. Around this time of year is when you start kind of looking over 2025 and what the whole thing was. You're talking about a guy who won the Royal Rumble last eliminating John Cena. You're talking about a guy who won the World heavyweight championship at WrestleMania. You're talking about a guy who got the pinfall victory in a tag match with roman reigns at SummerSlam. You're talking about a guy who had 45,000 people yeeting alongside of him in a war games match in San Diego. Like, how can you have this year that Jay uso has had and still be throwing tantrums when you lose a match?

[Sam]

I mean, you look back on the year that Jay uso's had, and it's completely. His career has completely transformed from where he was 365 days ago last December.

[Megan Morant]

100%. I agree.

[Sam]

This December, he's a completely different superstar. But for some reason, we're watching Jay in real time figure out if he can stay at the top now that he's gotten there. But we know. We all believe it.

[Megan Morant]

Yes.

[Sam]

But Jay doesn't quite believe it fully.

[Megan Morant]

It's like the opposite of L. A Knight. The conversation that we just had about L. A Knight going, no, it has to be blind. What did he say? Idiotic faith at times in myself.

[Sam]

Yeah. Like, and we saw Jay have his doubts on the way to WrestleMania, but. But he overcame that.

[Megan Morant]

He's overcome it all. Every time he has his doubts, he overcomes it. Right. He wins the Royal Rumble. He has his doubts on the way to WrestleMania. He overcomes and he wins. Then he loses it. He has his doubts about whether or not he still belongs in that title picture, in that main event scene. He overcomes it and he proves to everybody, yes, he's a changed performer. He belongs in the main event discussion and still, like, you don't win the CENA tournament and you go crazy. There's 15 guys that aren't going to win the tournament. I know one will win. There's 15 people that won't win. How you think Zack Ryder feels? He was out. Round one sucks. He's not tipping over. Hydration stations. Woo, woo, woo. You know what I mean?

[Sam]

Woo, woo, woo.

[Megan Morant]

So it was tough to see. And then I'll tell you, you talk about, you talk about the bloodline and that family. You talk about Jey USO talking about Jay Uso's younger brother, Solo Sikoa. And I think that even though Solo Sikoa did not win tonight and Gunther beat him, and Gunther is just a pros pro, Gunther takes advantage of every situation that he's in.

[Sam]

I would call him an unstoppable force, but I don't want to get La Knight upset again.

[Megan Morant]

And you will. He doesn't like it when you say that. Don't say, say that about him. Not Gunther. But there was all this interference. Talatonga making his presence known over and over and over again. And by the way, more power to him. That's why he's at ringside. I don't. It doesn't bother me. But ultimately a distraction almost led to a double team that I think would have ended the match. Referee sees it happening, it backfires on Solo referees. Distracted, Gunther shrugs his shoulders, decides to go for the low blow. And you know what? That's. That's a Gunther thing to do. Whether it's right, whether it's wrong, I am here to win these matches. This guy has used Talatonga the whole time. He's cheated the whole time. So guess what? If that's how we're going to play, that's how we're going to play. Low Bo, low blow, powerbomb pin. But the amount of time you go back and watch this match, watch how long, how much time in this match was spent with Solo Sokoa on the offense. It was remarkable against somebody like Gunther. I think that this tournament, combined with The Survivor Series 5 on 5 that happened on Smackdown on Friday, I hope is opening people's eyes and reminding them of what a threat physically Solo Sikoa is.

[Sam]

Solo Sikoa is probably one of the most underrated superstars on the roster. He's only been doing this for what, five years he's been in wwe.

[Megan Morant]

Wwe, yeah.

[Sam]

And he and Gunter put on an amazing match tonight. Incredible solo. Sokoa, I feel like in the last three or four weeks has elevated.

[Megan Morant]

I think that's 100% right. I think it's right. And then we're. But we are left with Gunther and La Knight one on one. And I'll tell you, after talking to La Knight tonight, there's no way. I mean, I want to run through a wall for that guy. I believe. And you know what? That makes me think Gunther's going to disappoint us. You know, Gunther, like, I feel. I feel so good about La Knight winning this thing. He said everything. He said. I was like, right on, dude.

[Sam]

Well, and you brought up 2023 and John Cena and La Knight and I said, oh, wow.

[Megan Morant]

Yeah, this goes.

[La Knight]

Wow.

[Sam]

I would love to see that.

[Megan Morant]

Oh, you would love to see that.

[Sam]

Cool.

[Megan Morant]

I don't care. I'm Gunther.

[Sam]

No.

[Megan Morant]

Well, listen, Fun Gunter.

[Sam]

Not that the Gunter before was fun, but this is.

[Megan Morant]

It's even somehow less fun.

[Sam]

Yeah.

[Megan Morant]

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[Sam]

Yep.

[Megan Morant]

When you see somebody like Dominic Mysterio walk around and you go, how do I look? Cool like Dominic Mysterio, that would Be where I would start. Check him out now on WWE Shop of Fanatics. Dominique Mysterio was looking super cool tonight, showing up in those gold glasses. His hair is feathered as I've ever seen it.

[Sam]

But you know what made him look even cooler? The fact that Liv Morgan was by his side.

[Megan Morant]

Oh, by his side, man. And then she slapped him again. Just. And just to remember when I slapped him. Yeah. I didn't mean it. I didn't mean it. You know what's really cool? I think I love that Dominic Mysterio left the John Cena side plate on the Intercontinental Championship. I would definitely, if I won the intercontinental title from dominate from John Cena, I would absolutely leave the John Cena side plate on. That's like. Not only is it like, hey, here I am the Intercontinental champion, but I'm going to remind everybody who I beat for it.

[Sam]

I took it off the greatest of all time. I mean, and then also by the transitive property makes Dominic the greatest of all time.

[Megan Morant]

Of course it makes him the greatest of all time. He looks like John Lennon right there with those gold glass on. He looks like John Lennon. But let me tell you something about Liv Morgan. That ain't Yoko. Well, I don't think so.

[Sam]

Well, listen, if it was Yoko, it would mean that Yoko would ruin the judgment day. And of based on the way that Monday night Raw went off the air with Raquel and Roxanne both holding the championships and live holding their arms up.

[Megan Morant]

Come on.

[Sam]

It looks like she's not okoing it up.

[Megan Morant]

That's right. I don't think so. I don't think so. Plus, I mean, this is the coolest thing ever.

[Sam]

It really is.

[Megan Morant]

It's the coolest thing ever. So live Morgan. I mean, I would wear that photo. Just put the photo on a T shirt.

[Sam]

Yeah, I would get it too.

[Megan Morant]

And get it one of those three. I would do it with the three. The three phone. Do it three times like the collab. I. I would even make it three better. I think it's a great idea. So the judgment day comes out and Liv Morgan gets her own entrance. The judgment day is back. And you know, there were a couple of little moments in the promo, you know, when Dominic. First of all, the placement of the group. Dominic Mysterio and Liv Morgan standing in the front and the rest of the judgment day standing behind them.

[Sam]

To take it a step further, when they arrived at the arena, Dom and Liv in the cool convertible car.

[Megan Morant]

It was a lowrider.

[Sam]

Yes. Low rider like his dad used to Drive. And then Dom and Liv get out of the car. They interact with the Judgment Day who were not in the lowrider whatsoever. And I was watching the body language. We saw Liv give Raquel a hug. She gave JD a hug.

[Megan Morant]

Former women's tag team champion.

[Sam]

That's correct. And very good friend. She kind of gave Finn a handshake. And Roxanne, just a little nod.

[Megan Morant]

A little nod. I think she sees everybody. I think Liv Morgan sees everybody. But you see, like, Liv and Dom are up front standing in front of everybody. And while they're talking about what happened at Survivor Series, Dominic Mysterio at one point, you got to watch everything because everything counts. Dominic Mysterio is talking and he says, we knew that John Cena was aware of what the Judgment Day was going to do. And we knew that when the Judgment Day plans failed, we would have this up our sleeve. And when he said the Judgment Day plans fail, you saw for a minute, Finn Balor was like, what?

[Sam]

What?

[Megan Morant]

Like what?

[Sam]

You guys doubted us?

[Megan Morant]

Why did you think we were going to fail? Unfortunately for them, they did fail. So they were proven right again. Then Liv Morgan said, I can't help but notice, but ever since I've been gone, you guys have less gold. You're losing what happened. And she's right.

[Sam]

The Judgment Day haven't been getting along as well since Liv left either.

[Megan Morant]

Isn't it amazing what a difference Liv Morgan makes? Like, instantly. You're like this woman who, by the way, when she first came in, she wasn't even welcomed by the Judgment Day.

[Sam]

I know. And you think about, you think back to a year ago, sure, Liv Morgan was not the star that she is right now. Like, Liv Morgan has elevated so much.

[Megan Morant]

She just starting a revenge tour two years more.

[Sam]

She had no goals on the way to the way to WrestleMania, remember?

[Megan Morant]

No go. Just Rhea. Just Rhea. And now look at this. She is the star. She's on the WrestleMania commercials.

[Sam]

Yeah. And we saw the backstage interaction with Stephanie Vacair looking at the Women's World Championship and just reminding Stephanie Vacair in the world that she's back right now.

[Megan Morant]

Look, she specifically said the Judgment Day is weak. But don't worry, cuz now I'm back on one end, it's like, oh, great, Liv Morgan's a great leader. On the other end, it's like, that's not. I don't want to hear that. That's not good. Like, if I'm the Judgment Day, I don't want to be described as weak.

[Sam]

No.

[Megan Morant]

But here's the good news. I'm back.

[Sam]

Yeah. They didn't exactly present as much express excitedness. Right.

[Megan Morant]

Excited. By the way, you did go to Northwestern. Excitedness is the world.

[Sam]

They didn't seem thrilled. I will say.

[Megan Morant]

No, you're right. You're right. Yeah. Excitement. Excitement was not exactly plastered all over their face.

[Sam]

Thank you, Sam.

[Megan Morant]

It's one in the same.

[Sam]

It is.

[Megan Morant]

Both work. Both of those are words and they both work.

[Sam]

Except one's not yet in the dictionary.

[Megan Morant]

It will be by next year.

[Sam]

You know, they're added new words.

[Megan Morant]

They put six, seven in. They're going to put excitedness in next year.

[Sam]

That's right.

[Megan Morant]

I think so.

[Sam]

The judgment day, though, didn't exactly seem thrilled. Dominic did.

[Megan Morant]

Of course Dominic did.

[Sam]

But Raquel seemed happy.

[Megan Morant]

She thinks she is.

[Sam]

But it wasn't like a yay, Liv Morgan's here to save us.

[Megan Morant]

Well, guess what? What options do they have? And I would argue that as Raw went on, it seemed more and more. It seems like Liv Morgan is focused on that singles women's world championship. And we'll get to the women's tag team championship scene because it was a wild scene to end Monday night raw. But I want to talk to you about these wild scenes. These wild scenes, they get captured forever thanks to tops. Now we all love tops. Now we all talk about. Tops now is an unbelievable survivor series war games. And as they always do, tops now is commemorating some of the biggest moments at survivor series. They're going to be releasing a men and women's war games card featuring the full teams, including highlight images from each match on the card back. And wait till you hear this. You're going to need this one, I think. Live Morgan return card. Liv is getting her own card from survivor series collector who buy the base card may also receive a short print card that features there's an image variant. So if you get really lucky, you get the image variant and it's a shot from the moment that she turned on John Cena.

[Sam]

You mean the moment she paid off. Elimination chamber.

[Megan Morant]

Imagine having those two tops cards in your tops now collection. John Cena turning on Cody. Live Morgan turning on John Cena. I wonder if Cody is. Thank Liv Morgan for that. I don't know. Speaking of live, by the way, she and Dom. Oh, I got it. I got. Are also on a dual card and lucky collectors who buy that card have the chance of a one out of one dual auto. There is a one of one dual auto signed by live and Dominic.

[Sam]

Got to get that for the studio.

[Megan Morant]

My studio at home.

[Sam]

No, this studio right here, we need.

[Megan Morant]

We do need it. We need it. We need. I'll wear it on a medallion like Logan Paul's Pokemon necklace. These cards, they're launching soon, so check tops.com and sign up for notifications so you don't miss them. There will also be a John Cena solo card celebrating his final ple. And by the way, this is.

[Sam]

This is great. I mean, we have our differences in opinion. Becky lynch, we. We don't typically agree on she wants me fired. But Liv and Dom can bring us together.

[Megan Morant]

That's true. That's true. And hopefully they're also going to bring together Raquel and Roxanne because at the end of Raw, you had this explosion. You had this amazing women's tag main event. Alexa and Charlotte versus Rhea and IO and I was loving it.

[Sam]

Loving it.

[Megan Morant]

Here come the Kabuki Warriors. Here come Bailey and Lyra. Here come the judgment day and you realize how massive this women's tag division is really getting. But at the end of the night, it was Roxanna Raquel who stood strong with the women's tag team championship. They hadn't won it. They were just holding it up just to get a feel for what it looks like. Liv Morgan enters the ring. Roxanne realizing I don't have a leg to stand on here, I don't have a lot of leverage, hands the title over to Live. Live goes. No, you keep it, honey. And puts their both their arms up in the air. I'm going to. I'm going to lead you to gold. And I truly do think that Liv Morgan is focused on getting the entire Judgment Day back to holding gold.

[Sam]

If there's one person that can do it, it's Liv Morgan.

[Megan Morant]

Here's the problem. I think if anybody in that group doesn't hold their weight, lives going to drop them like a bad habit.

[Sam]

She has to. I don't think she has high standards.

[Megan Morant]

I think she has high standards because I mean, look at who she spends her life with. Dominic Mysterio. And that's tough for any man to be compared to Dom.

[Sam]

Are running all of Monday Night Raw. Not surround themselves with losers.

[Megan Morant]

Do you think Liv and Dom have a shot of actually running Raw in 2026?

[Sam]

Yes.

[Megan Morant]

Even with the vision out there, even CM Punk out there, it's tough.

[Sam]

Wow.

[Megan Morant]

Well, I can't wait to see. I hope they go to Fanatics Fest. I'm very, very excited about Fanatics Fest because WWE and sports fans, this is the big news for you. The world's number one sports fan festival, Fanatics Fest, is making its return to New York City. Fanatics is bringing you closer to the league's team Superstars and athletes that you love. Across four action packed days in July, you can meet your favorite WWE Superstars, get your hands on exclusive merch, catch live podcasts, maybe even this one, I hope, and interact with the biggest names in sports. Tickets are on sale now and Raw Recap fans, you can get a 10% discount by using Raw Recap 10 at checkout. Megan There is so much going on in WWE right now. So much going on on Monday Night Raw and it doesn't stop with just what's on tv. This podcast network that we're a part of is absolutely exploding. Not only do you have this show, you got Six Feet under with the Undertaker. I mean, Timothy Chalamet is on. Cody Rhodes is. What do you want to talk about? Timmy Chalamet? Big Get. Big get. You have AJ Lee on on on Stephanie McMahon's podcast. It's so much going on right now on the podcast network. But check them all out. They're all on YouTube. They're all everywhere. You get your podcast wherever you're listening or watching this. You can get Stephanie's podcast, Cody's podcast, and Logan Paul's podcast. Check them all out and enjoy them for yourself. Megan Sam, it's been a wild one. A lot happened tonight and I'm glad we were here to recap.

[Sam]

There's a lot of excited excitedness that's.

[Megan Morant]

Right in this room and the excitedness isn't going to stop. Make sure that you're subscribed to the Raw Recap podcast across all audio platforms. Make sure that you're watching on YouTube, leaving comments and likes and stay, stay tuned because next week we promise to bring you a Raw recap with all of the excitedness that you can only expect from us here on this WWE and Fanatics original production.