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Sam Roberts
We have a new number one contender for the World Heavyweight Championship. A new set of number one contenders for the Women's Tag Team Championship that will be joining us on the show. Roxanne Perez and Liv Morgan. Gunther beats AJ Styles. Bron Breakker is suspended, at least as of now. This is the Raw recap of WWE and Fanatics original production. There is so much happening in. In this world of the WWE right now. Megan Morant, I mean, first of all, just walking in over on Smackdown was referenced on the show tonight. Drew McIntyre, the WWE Champion, CM Punk getting in the ring.
Megan Morant
Right. No longer bored at work. Drew McIntyre. He's not bored at work because he's the champ.
Sam Roberts
He is the champ. And CM Punk referenced it tonight, saying that he intends on being the World Heavyweight Champion forever. That doesn't really mean all that much. All that means is that's what he intends. It doesn't mean it's actually going to happen. Well, maybe we'll have time to talk about Drew McIntyre, but before we get to Drew McIntyre, I want to talk about CM Punk's opponent from last week. I want to talk about Braun Breaker and everything that went down with the Vision tonight. So, of course, earlier in the show, you've got Paul Heyman having a confrontation with Adam Pearce. Adam Pearce saying like, listen, if Bron Breaker. First of all, Adam Pearce started a little negative.
Megan Morant
He is a negative person.
Sam Roberts
He's a negative guy. He's very. And he leads emotionally sometimes. And this is bad.
Megan Morant
Yeah, but I mean, when you're dealing with the Vision and you're the general manager of Monday Night Raw, you're not exactly going to give them the benefit of the doubt.
Sam Roberts
Yeah, I know, but if somebody's playing chess, you can't scream at the board and think that you're going to get checkmate. You know what I'm saying?
Roxanne Perez
True.
Sam Roberts
And who are you dealing with ultimately? If you're dealing with the Vision, who are you dealing with?
Megan Morant
Paul Heyman.
Sam Roberts
And who is the greatest chess player in the history of professional Wrestling?
Megan Morant
Paul Heyman.
Sam Roberts
And that's where mistakes get made. And I do think mistakes were made. So you have this, this sort of interaction and already like, to me, okay, if I'm bringing this down, Adam Pierce is showing his cards, saying, I don't want to see that Brawn Breaker if he has bad intentions. And it's like, whoa, whoa, we don't even know what anybody's intentions are. Let's not get too hasty here. Like, let's, you know. And Paul Heyman goes fine. No problem. And he said, I believe he said, it would be my life's honor to be your errand boy or your message boy, whatever he said. Which was just so Paul Heyman. Just so, so Paul Heyman.
Megan Morant
When I heard Bron Breaker wasn't at Monday Night Raw, I was like, that makes sense though, right? It's tough to show up to Monday Night Raw after losing to CM Punk for the World Heavyweight Championship. So when I was. When I heard he wasn't there, that, that made sense. But knowing that Bron Breaker was going to be absolutely furious, that also made sense. So Adam Pierce in his role had to be prepared for if and when Bronberger was going to show up, whenever that may be.
Sam Roberts
So you, you're saying that Adam Pierce had a point that there was a very good possibility that if Bron Breaker showed up, he wouldn't be in the mood for teamwork.
Megan Morant
No, he's not going to be in the mood for anything.
Sam Roberts
All right. While he was in the mood for something, Spears loves his Spears. Because we get to the Luchadors and the Vision, we get to Dragon Lee and Penta versus Bronson Reed and Austin Theory. And how about Logan Paul being at ringside with them? And I had this question today on the show on Sirius. I was like, listen, all I read about all week was Logan Paul dropping vlogs or whatever he's dropping, saying, well, now I'm a full time WWE Superstar, so don't, you know, you can't say anything anymore because I just signed my first, first do to be a full time Superstar. I'm in the WWE full time. And I was like, that's a lot of talking to do before a European tour. Okay, show me your full time. And then he shows up at ringside and I go, and this was a question that we had for him. I feel like months ago when we had him on the pod like that, he was just saying full time a lot. I feel like something has happened that ever since Logan Paul was like, no, I'm not in the Vision to help out with war games. I'm in the Vision. He's been on television pretty much every week. He's now in Dusseldorf.
Megan Morant
Yeah. And before this, did we ever see Logan Paul involved in a segment that wasn't exclusively about Logan Paul the character?
Sam Roberts
100% not. Logan Paul would be there for Logan Paul. Centric.
Megan Morant
That's right.
Sam Roberts
Segments.
Megan Morant
He wasn't centric in this segment at all tonight.
Sam Roberts
He was there to support his guys.
Megan Morant
That's right.
Sam Roberts
He was there to support the Vision And I'm like, well, right under everybody's nose. Logan Paul's telling the truth. He actually is. Maybe because he's selling that Pokemon card for all that money, but even with all that Pokemon money he's about to get, he still is full time. I don't know, man. Paul Heyman's got some of that Kool Aid. Because all of a sudden, Logan Paul hangs out with Paul Heyman for a few weeks, and he actually is full time. Full time.
Megan Morant
And he says, yes, sir.
Sam Roberts
Yes, sir. Yeah. And he was working on the side of the Vision even tonight, like, like, like kind of furthering that narrative. That's the other thing about Logan Paul. You never see this guy working as a true teammate. Never. There's always that underlying how does this benefit me Thing.
Megan Morant
Yeah. And I was really worried after Bron Breakker lost to CM Punk that there would be this. This dynamic in the Vision where everybody says, oh, well, well, Bron didn't become champion, so surely I'm the next one within this group to step up. And that was not what we saw at all.
Sam Roberts
You had said you were afraid of da vision.
Megan Morant
That's right. Duh. Duh. Vision.
Sam Roberts
You like that? You did like it. You wanted not to like it, and then you could.
Megan Morant
That was good. That was good.
Roxanne Perez
You.
Megan Morant
You just came up with that right now.
Sam Roberts
I did. While you were.
Megan Morant
It's good. Yeah, I like it.
Sam Roberts
Yeah. So. So mid match, Bron Breaker decides he is coming to Rod tonight.
Megan Morant
He is.
Sam Roberts
He didn't just get on that plane to Dusseldorf to hang out in a hotel room. He's going to raw. And I mean, the set tonight was amazing. You know, obviously the crowd was great, singing and chanting the entire night. It looked like, you know, as sometimes these European shows do when the screen is small, like the whole crowd is kind of caving in on. On the ring, which is the funnest. The funnest thing. It's just, you know, it's just so frantic and it's good energy for wrestling, but the aisle ways long. And I mean, that drone shot that they had of Braun Breaker just charging all the way up that aisle. And like, I would think, you know, if I'm going to sprint, if I come out of the entryway sprinting, by the time I'm halfway up the aisle, I'm like, okay, let me slow down a little bit. And by the time I'm at the end of the aisle, I'm winded. I'm out.
Megan Morant
Like, yeah, you have no endurance.
Sam Roberts
No, no, no, no, no. Not at All. Not at all. I'm at the gate and within three steps I'm like, okay, okay, we pushed a little far. Pull a hamstring. Braun sped up.
Megan Morant
Yeah. He accelerated.
Sam Roberts
You saw that, right?
Megan Morant
I did.
Sam Roberts
At the, at the end as. Just as he approached Dragon Lee, it was like he was running inhumanly fast. And then there was a second gear to shift into, like an automobile.
Megan Morant
Yes. It. And it had happened immediately when he hit Dragon Lee.
Sam Roberts
Yes.
Megan Morant
Sawed him in half.
Sam Roberts
Yes. And Dragon Lee just goes down.
Megan Morant
He had to. I mean, he was running 20 miles an hour.
Sam Roberts
And then Penta goes down and then Adam Pearce comes out and he's screaming at Bron Breaker. And you could just read, you could feel the frustration in Adam Pearce because it's almost like, it's like a, like a, like a, like a, like a, like a, like a violent, grown up our gang where while you're over here, I'm going to be over here because like he's yelling at Bron Breaker and Bron Breaker's just like, oh, really? What are you going to do? What are you going to do? What are you going to do?
Megan Morant
And how about this vision, right? This vision.
Sam Roberts
Meanwhile in the ring, what's going on with the vision?
Megan Morant
That's right. I mean, they don't even need words to communicate, right. That's how much they're operating on the same page.
Sam Roberts
Right. That it's like, okay, Bron's got him over there. Time for a tsunami. And Bronn's like, I'm gonna keep talking until you're done with that tsunami. Adam Pierce had to hear the sounds of the tsunami to go like, oh, I gotta now take care of this. And while he's taking care of the tsunami, Bron's jumping in the ring, doing another spear. It's like, over here, over there. Over here. It's like spilling marbles all over the place.
Megan Morant
Your perfect execution by the vision where there is no division.
Sam Roberts
That's right. That's right. See, it's fun. It's great.
Megan Morant
Yeah.
Sam Roberts
I mean, and it's like they. But it's, I mean, and you go, well, it felt like a plan from the very beginning. And then Adam Pierce is like, finally, like, he's had enough. And like he gets right on Braun Breaker and I guess I didn't even notice, but apparently put his hands on Bron Breaker first, only for Bron Breaker to then grab him by the lapels. And I can't imagine. It felt like one of those things where it's like you think you're involved in a reality and then feeling the strength of Bron Breaker. And, I mean, he pushed Adam Pierce down to that second turnbuckle. And it's like, oh, yeah. Oh, this. This is real life. Like, staring up, seeing that rage in your face, seeing that strength shove you down in the second turnbuck. You're like, oh. Oh. That game we were playing a minute ago, that I thought was reality, that wasn't real life.
Megan Morant
Now I might be killed, right?
Sam Roberts
This is the guy who's in charge. Ultimately, this is the law of the jungle. I'm trying to run a business.
Megan Morant
Adam Pierce is in charge, but he is not in charge when it comes to Bron Breaker.
Sam Roberts
Not in this moment.
Megan Morant
No.
Sam Roberts
And then you have the rest of the vision pulling him off, pulling him on. It's okay. Come on, come on, come on, come on. Separating them.
Megan Morant
I did like, how Austin Theory was like, bron, chill, chill, chill, dog.
Sam Roberts
Come on. Come. Come on, bruv, chill, chill, bruv.
Megan Morant
Just chill.
Sam Roberts
Bron's like, oh, I never considered that. All right, I'm chill, chill, chill, chill, chill, chill, chill, chill. Just chill, chill, chill, chill. Bro, you want to go do some Pilates or something? Chill. Got some kombucha in the back.
Megan Morant
I love kombucha. Of course, Little booch.
Sam Roberts
So. So then they're back. And then coming back from commercial break, Braun Breaker. And like, this is when your emotions lead you astray. Sometimes you have to separate cool down because Adam Pierce is still the guy. Adam Pierce is still in charge. Adam Pierce is still going to be able to levy out any, you know, punishments that he has to Levy out in 20 minutes.
Megan Morant
He's the authority figure, right?
Sam Roberts
Like, you're still going to be able to do it, but he's fuming. He's got to do it now.
Megan Morant
I mean, he was spitting when he was speaking.
Sam Roberts
Well, he had drool on his go to.
Liv Morgan
I know.
Sam Roberts
And he didn't. And you know. You know how you knew he was pissed for real? Like, that was NWA Champion Adam Pierce. That was a different version of Adam Pierce. That was. That was like an Adam Pierce, where it's like. Because you feel when you just spit so much, there's drill. He wasn't even bothering to clean it up. He was so mad.
Megan Morant
No, it was just sitting there on his chin as he was interacting with Paul Heyman.
Sam Roberts
That's right, that's right. And Paul. Mr. Like, I'm not going to give you a reaction, reacting to getting Adam Pierce spit in the face, but that's because Bron Breaker was not respecting him. Bron Breaker wouldn't turn around and look at him. Look at him, everyone. I'm talking to you. And he suspends him indefinitely. Adam Pierce suspends Bron Breaker indefinitely, only for Paul Heyman, who had previously in the ring, he was looking at a Pierce going, I apologize, I apologize. I mean, Paul Heyman, I know he has a legalese in his family, but what a lawyer that guy would have been. Oh, I mean, he's also happens to be the goat as far as representation in the world of professional wrestling, but what a goat of a lawyer he would have been as well.
Megan Morant
If I ever needed somebody, I might have to give Paul heyman a call 100%.
Sam Roberts
Like, I don't know if you've passed the bar or not, but I'm gonna.
Megan Morant
Doesn't matter.
Sam Roberts
Yeah, whatever you need, whatever I can pay you. You're going to be better 100%. Because he goes after apologizing Adam Pearce in the ring, he goes, that was a huge mistake. And Adam Pearce was like, you're right, it was. And he goes, no, no, no, you. You just made a huge mistake. And I'm sitting there thinking, like, Adam Pearce is thinking, what do you mean you're gonna put his hands on me? I'm the general manager. He put his hands on me. And Paul Heyman was like, actually. And this is why I say you can't lead with emotion. Paul Heyman had found that center space. He had logically looked around, figured out the entire scenario.
Megan Morant
He did this all without chilling or booch.
Sam Roberts
He didn't have booch. He had no chill. But he stayed in that sort of logical frame of mind, knew everything that had happened, hadn't gotten carried away in the emotion of it all, and then went, actually, you put your hands on that WWE Superstar first. And Adam Pearce is just like.
Megan Morant
Because he knows he's right.
Sam Roberts
He knows he's. Of course he's right. Of course he's right. And you're like, ah, it's the last person you want to be outlogic by. That's what I mean about leading with emotion. If it's Paul Heyman out there, you don't want to be sitting there going like, oh, I'm going to scream at him until I get my way. No, you have to be paying attention to every single detail, because Paul Heyman has this just amazing ability of just making you look over here, look over here, look over here, look over here. You know what's in this hand? Your wallet, your keys. He's taken it all Your watch, it's gone.
Megan Morant
So now Braun Breaker suspended indefinitely. But as we saw, may maybe right. There's a loophole in this whole thing.
Sam Roberts
I mean, if he goes to. To whoever's over Adam Pierce's head. I don't know if that's Triple H. I don't know if that's the board of directors. I don't know where you'd go. I. Above Adam Pierce. That's not where. I don't live in those areas.
Megan Morant
But he can appeal this for sure. There's a case.
Sam Roberts
Hey, dude. Adam Pearce put his hands. If anything, suspend your general manager. He's putting his hands on Superstars. It's like, oh, geez. Like, to the point where Adam Pearce is going to have to be like, hey, Paul, sorry. You know, we got. It's just so. It's bad.
Megan Morant
Yeah, he worked himself into a little bit of a pickle there.
Sam Roberts
He did work himself into a little bit of a pickle. And he wasn't the only official that found themselves in an awkward situation right tonight. The main event of Monday night Raw, Gunther vs. AJ Styles. Now, unlike Saturday night's main event, when Gunther said he was going to make John Cena tap out, AJ Styles said, forget it. You want to be disrespectful? I'm going to make Gunther tap out.
Megan Morant
Yeah. And AJ was very clear, talking about, you know, him and John Cena, they have. They have their past, but both of them have so much respect for this business, so much respect for everybody who is inside of the ring. And Guenther doesn't have any of that. And when AJ said backstage, I'm going to make Guenther tap, like, this was a totally different, intensified version of AJ Styles.
Sam Roberts
I think that's right. And I think that that version carried with him to the ring because, like, AJ Styles was in charge of about 85% of this match, maybe more. I mean, this was like an AJ Styles where, like, just in case you forgot, like, did you forget that I'm the phenomenal one? Did you forget why I have the reputation that I have? Did you forget exactly who you're dealing with? And that's what we got with all those calf crushers and all those phenomenal forearms.
Megan Morant
It was crazy to see because as AJ's making his entrance, both you and I are watching and we're sort of being like, no, we don't. We don't want this match because we know the Gunter that he's dealing with.
Sam Roberts
Right.
Megan Morant
We know what Gunter has done to every opponent that he's faced, really, since he returned for John Cena's retirement tour when he was in the tournament. But it upped a level after he.
Sam Roberts
Retired John Cena 100% and made him tap.
Megan Morant
And so as we're watching AJ enter, I'm like, I don't. I might have to leave the room. Yeah. I don't even know if I want to watch this match. And I'm wondering, what is the strategy that AJ is going to employ against Gunter?
Sam Roberts
This is what is so interesting about everybody, like, who's ever watched wrestling thinks that they've got Gunther all figured out. Well, I know what this character is. I know how he operates. He's going to do this. He's going to be a killer. He's going to end this career. He's going to do that. And it's like, Gunther is such a unique force in the world of pro wrestling because everybody that's ever existed like Gunther, their whole thing is that they go in there and they dominate people, and they can't be stopped until somebody stops them, and then they're stopped. Except Gunther's so different. Every match that Gunther's ever in, if it's a big match, his opponent always gets a ton of offense in. John Cena got a ton of offense in. Like, Gunther never gets out of a match unscathed. It's just his ability to survive, his ability to not really be there, to care, to put on a show, but to be there to simply win the match at any cost and then to have the result be in his favor is what makes Gunther absolutely lethal.
Megan Morant
It's like when I'm watching a Gunter match, just when I really start to enjoy the match and I really start to have hope that AJ Styles is gonna win, that John Cena is going to win, that r. Truth is going to win, even our Truth, then Gunter crushes my soul.
Sam Roberts
He crushes dreams, not humans. Crush his souls. Yeah, because he'll just lock on that sleeper, or he'll lock on a power bomb, or he'll do something dastardly. And you'll go, wait, what? And you'll go, yeah, no, that's fine.
Megan Morant
Just as the crowd started to chant. This is awesome.
Sam Roberts
Yes. Yes. Like, there's this moment in this match where AJ Styles has Gunther in that calf crusher. And we saw it from the same angle that the referee saw it on television, where all of a sudden, Gunther is released. AJ just stands up and puts his arms in the air, and he goes over like. He's like, great news. I just won the Match. And old Rob Zapata and all of us are going, I don't. What? What are you talking about? And he goes, well, he tapped. And they go, I don't think so. Referee goes, I don't think so. And Gunther's just over there in the corner. And AJ Styles, I don't know what came over him. He's trying to tell the referee, the timekeeper, go ahead, ring that bell. And the referee's going, do not ring the bell. And so AJ Styles goes back over to Gunther. Referees over now with the timekeeper, which AJ Styles had set up, saying, tell him the timekeeper don't ring the bell. We're going to continue the match. And then, boom, that's when the low blow comes. It's all Gunther needed to hit the powerbomb and win. Then we see the replay, and I'm sitting there going, like, is AJ Styles having a dream? Like, what is he talking about? And then we see this replay, and we see on the other side of AJ Styles on the leg, Gunther is tapping out on AJ Styles.
Megan Morant
Clear as day.
Sam Roberts
Clear as day. But not to anybody that matters. Clear as day for everybody that. No one that. I mean, clear as day if you were sitting in that section of the audience, but not clear as day to anybody that matters. And I think that you will hear this narrative, oh, Gunther tapped out. You tapped out. There is no way tapping on a person's leg that the referee can't see is smart, is not tapping out.
Megan Morant
It's smart. It's like when he got ag to release the hold, right?
Sam Roberts
It's like when people are in a submission hold and the referee is knocked out and they start tapping out. Like, you better tap out immediately if the referee isn't in the ring, tap out as soon as that hold is put on. Because if you could get the person to release it, then the hold's not on you anymore. You're not gonna break your calf. I, if anything, am sitting there befuddled that AJ Styles would release a hold because he felt a tap and not because a referee acknowledged the tap. That's when you release a hold, when a referee tells you to release the hold because the referee acknowledges the tap. Gunther tapped out AJ Styles. I think he tapped out two. AJ Styles, I think he knew exactly where he was tapping. I think he knew exactly what he was doing. I think he knew that. Look, there are multiple levels to this game, and I'm in the middle of the ring right now, and AJ Styles is one of the best to ever do it. I'M not getting out of this calf crusher.
Megan Morant
And he. And he worked the calf the entire match.
Sam Roberts
Yep. It's weekend.
Megan Morant
Yes.
Sam Roberts
I'm not getting out of this thing, and I've had just about as much as I can take. Is there a way to politely ask him to release the hold and then maybe I'll be okay? No, that probably wouldn't work. You know, AJ Styles would probably politely decline if I politely. Okay, well, that's not gonna work. Well, how do I get A.J. styles to let. Oh, look where the referee is. And that's again what I mean about not leading with emotion in all scenarios. The best of the best always just lead with pure and utter logic what is gonna result in a win in the record book. And that's exactly what Gunther did. Realizing the referee's over there, let me tap out. So AJ feels it. AJ releases the hold, and that was all that he needed.
Megan Morant
It's cheap, but I respect it.
Sam Roberts
You do respect it?
Megan Morant
I mean, it's brilliant.
Sam Roberts
Yeah.
Megan Morant
It's also cheap and disrespectful.
Sam Roberts
It's a Becky lynch finish.
Megan Morant
I, I, I don't agree with that.
Sam Roberts
Oh, okay, okay.
Megan Morant
I don't agree with that whatsoever.
Sam Roberts
No. Okay, all right, all right.
Megan Morant
No, she has some of the slickest finishes I've ever seen.
Sam Roberts
They are pretty slick. Look, I'll tell you where Gunther, when you say Gunther's a soul crusher and all that stuff, One thing Gunther doesn't care about is how the audience reacts to him. He does not care whatsoever. If anything, he'll make a T shirt out of it if it really bothers you. He has said in public he enjoys antagonizing the audience, and that's something that he did with the way that match finished tonight. Absolutely. But it was the first time AJ Styles and Gunther had been in the ring. And, like, honestly, why is Gunther going to do it again? What for? He's proven what's happened. He can go out next week in Ireland and say, hey, I beat AJ Styles. I beat R. Truth. I beat John Cena. I wonder who's going to be next. It's not going to happen tonight. You know what I mean?
Megan Morant
Yeah.
Sam Roberts
I'm just here to tell you about my victories. I'm not wrestling again because why would he. Why?
Megan Morant
I don't have an answer. I don't have an answer for why Gunter would wrestle again because we want him to.
Sam Roberts
And it's like, that's not good enough answer. I know that's not a good enough.
Megan Morant
Reason because you're In Belfast. And I'd like to see you wrestle.
Sam Roberts
Too bad, too bad. I'd like a lot of things. I'm not getting them. So you're not getting this. You know what? You can get that new Cody Rhodes gear. Have you heard about this new Cody Rhodes?
Megan Morant
I have. I've heard about this.
Sam Roberts
It's nice. Slick, slick. Cody Rhodes always shows up looking slick. You can show up looking slick as well. New Cody Rhodes gear is here. The camo collection just got new additions and they're available now at WWE shop and fanatics. You can get yours before it's gone. The jacket, the new T shirts, the hat. And I'm going to tell you something. Cody Rhodes is coming back and he's coming back looking for a fight. I mean, if there ever was a time to, to, to, to gear up in that camo, now's the time. I cannot wait to see what a Cody Rhodes on a mission to get his title back feels like. You remember last time he lost the title? I remember he went in and, and, and, and destroyed John Cena. Put him through a table and forced him to sign a contract. Well, now we've got a Cody Rhodes in a similar situation, but he's probably even more angry.
Megan Morant
And it led to one of the best matches of the year at SummerSlam.
Sam Roberts
Absolutely did with John Cena. So gear up. Get the new Cody Rhodes gear.
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Sam Roberts
But we've got to Talk about this women's tag team title scenario. The new Women's Tag Team Champions, Rio. Team Rio started Monday Night Raw and immediately when they said they're opening the door for challengers who came out live.
Megan Morant
Morgan and Roxanne Perez.
Sam Roberts
That's right. Not only did they come out, they came out alongside Larry Valkyrie and Bailey. They came out alongside the Kabuki Warriors. Triple Threat Match was made. Liv Morgan and Roxanne Perez won that Triple Threat Match. They will get a chance at the Women's Tag Team Championship at Saturday night's main event against Rhea, Ripley, and EO Sky. But before that, they're right here, all the way from Dusseldorf, Germany. Welcome the number one contenders. The number one contenders. Let's see. Wow. What a celebration. Liv Morgan, Roxanne Perez, welcome to the Raw recap.
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Are you.
Sam Roberts
Are you feeling good?
Liv Morgan
Can you. Can you say Liv Morgan and Roxanne Perez, our number one contenders for the WWE Tag Team Championship. Can you do it just for fun for us?
Roxanne Perez
Or you can just call us Attack Champions already?
Megan Morant
Oh, wow.
Liv Morgan
Let's say the number of contenders. Just say it live.
Sam Roberts
Morgan and Roxanne Perez are the number one contenders for the WWE Women's Tag Team Championship.
Megan Morant
Ah.
Liv Morgan
Fire.
Sam Roberts
Did it feel good to hear it?
Liv Morgan
Oh, yeah.
Megan Morant
I felt great.
Liv Morgan
It felt great. It's like. It's almost just as good as winning.
Sam Roberts
You know, I. I mean, I wouldn't know, but. But I can take your word for it. It seems like it's. It's fantastic. How is Dusseldorf been for both of you?
Roxanne Perez
I haven't been here very long.
Liv Morgan
We just got here today. I don't remember. It's been such a long tour. We've been. We've been working. I don't know if you guys know, but we've been all around, like, the world in the last, like, five days. We got to Dusseldorf today, so really we haven't done anything, but we did win, so I guess that's all that really counts, you know? So I guess it's good because we came, we saw, we conquered, and now we're gonna go home. Well, I'm going home Roxy's, actually.
Roxanne Perez
Yes.
Liv Morgan
My Young is gonna stay on tour and get a couple more wins in her pocket. And I'm gonna go home and rest because she's my young.
Sam Roberts
I mean, that's great that you have your own young. And I mean, this is like. But this is a very. This is a very different dynamic.
Liv Morgan
Have you ever had a young?
Sam Roberts
I've never had a. I mean, I don't Know if.
Megan Morant
How can I hear young? You're getting young.
Sam Roberts
Is Megan my young?
Liv Morgan
Which one of you is older?
Megan Morant
Sam?
Liv Morgan
Can't you tell Megan?
Sam Roberts
No, it's about. We're about the same age.
Megan Morant
Oh, stop. I think I'm your young.
Sam Roberts
Yeah. Yeah.
Roxanne Perez
She's still your young. She's way, way younger.
Liv Morgan
Yeah, she's your young and better. I hope you nurture her. I hope you nurture her because that's, like, what a big needs to do.
Sam Roberts
When did you start nurturing your young, Liv?
Liv Morgan
I feel like that's, like, as soon.
Megan Morant
As I came back.
Roxanne Perez
Yeah.
Liv Morgan
You know, as soon as I came back, I just took Roxy under my wing because that's the right thing to do. It's the right thing to do, and I'm gonna teach her all I know.
Roxanne Perez
Now, she's been tag team champions how many times? Four. Four.
Liv Morgan
Which is the most out of any other tag team that's ever, like, existed ever.
Roxanne Perez
So she's very iconic.
Liv Morgan
Very, very, very, very iconic. The greatest of all time.
Sam Roberts
Wow.
Liv Morgan
Not on some Becky. On some real shit.
Sam Roberts
Well, that's what I like. The real. Yeah, I like.
Megan Morant
I don't know. Becky's is pretty real.
Sam Roberts
No, no, no, no. I think Liv's is actually quite real.
Megan Morant
Yeah.
Sam Roberts
How did you think Roxanne did in your absence as a tag team champion?
Liv Morgan
You know, she.
Roxanne Perez
She.
Liv Morgan
She did lose the titles rather quickly, and that's why she's my young.
Sam Roberts
Wow.
Liv Morgan
Is because now, under my tutelage, she's going to grow and be nurtured into the greatest of all time. After my time, when I go, I am shaping my little Roxy to be the next greatest.
Sam Roberts
I mean, Liv, when did this sort of. Megan actually has put it out multiple times on the show that since you've been back, it has felt like with the Judgment Day, you've taken on much more of a leadership role than we've ever seen you in.
Megan Morant
And you've been very selfless.
Liv Morgan
You guys know that.
Sam Roberts
No, I know, but.
Megan Morant
But you've also been very selfless. I mean, when we saw you return, Liv, I was like, oh, Liv has to go for the Women's World Championship. So to see you take Roxanne underneath your wing and go after the tag titles was a bit surprising to me, and I think a lot of other fans who. Who were excited to see you return.
Sam Roberts
Yeah.
Liv Morgan
You know, a big, sexy Raquel Rodriguez, she claimed her stake for the Women's World Championship, and so that left the tag team titles for Roxy and I. So I'm going to Continue the tradition of Judgment Day holding all of the gold. It's going to start with Roxy. Not, you know, actually starts with Dominic. Dominic is intercontinental champion. Shout out to daddy Tom. And Roxy and I are going to continue that with becoming the women's tag team champions for Cal's going to become the women's world champion. And Finn, I hope, gets it together, which it seems like. My little talk to him, I think it was little.
Megan Morant
Little fire.
Roxanne Perez
I think it worked. Say as a family and we've always been a family. So live. Support me and me support her and us support Raquel.
Liv Morgan
Family first.
Sam Roberts
Family's important. It seems like you almost have a matriarch role. Maybe leader's not the right word. Maybe mentor is the right word.
Liv Morgan
I don't think that's like, the correct word for me.
Sam Roberts
Why not?
Liv Morgan
I will take. I would take mentor. Matriarch is like, old.
Megan Morant
Yeah.
Liv Morgan
It feels, you know. And I know. I know I'm giving mentor, but I'm no mother, so you don't.
Roxanne Perez
But you are.
Liv Morgan
I'm mother in the good way mother in, like, the way that you're trying to say. Sam, she's.
Megan Morant
She's a cool mom like me.
Sam Roberts
I wasn't. I didn't think it was negative. I just thought maybe, like, you're not.
Liv Morgan
I'm cooler than Regina George's mom. I'm.
Roxanne Perez
I'm still.
Liv Morgan
I'm cooler than even a cool mom.
Sam Roberts
So you're not ank to Roxanne?
Roxanne Perez
Why would you say that?
Liv Morgan
Ankh? I was gonna say I was gonna try to hyphen aunt. I was gonna try to hyphen aunt, but, like, you can't.
Sam Roberts
Oh, no, I'm on. On.
Megan Morant
I'm on.
Liv Morgan
No, I'm just her big. And she's my little. I'm her big. She's my little.
Sam Roberts
I love it.
Liv Morgan
And that's it. We're gonna run.
Roxanne Perez
Shit.
Liv Morgan
Judgment Day.
Sam Roberts
What's the status of Dominic Mysterio these days?
Liv Morgan
Yeah, Daddy Dom, he's home resting. He's just recovering. We're just playing it safe, you know, he is, after all, our double champion. He is, as of right now, the crown jewel of the judgment day. So we protect and cater to Daddy Dom and we're just playing it safe with him. And he'll be back soon, but he's doing some well deserved rr. He was quite literally running Monday Night Raw for like the last full year. You don't think that Daddy Dom deserves, like, a little bit of a break, a little bit of a rest, a little bit of an off day, a little bit of a reprieve.
Roxanne Perez
My goodness.
Sam Roberts
I do. I do.
Liv Morgan
I have a study on flexing. Oh, my God.
Sam Roberts
Yes, I do. I absolutely do. You know what was very impressive tonight, though? The second. I mean, it was. It was less than one second when Rhea Ripley and EOS guy said, they're kind of opening the door for anybody that thinks that they deserve a shot at the Tag Team championship. Like, the sentence wasn't even out of Rhea Ripley's mouth before your music played. It was like you were just sitting there waiting for the.
Liv Morgan
Yeah.
Megan Morant
You know, like, my.
Liv Morgan
My sensors went off. My sensors went off, and I'm like, oh, Roxanne, this is our time. Yeah. No, quite literally. Those are our titles, and we want those titles.
Roxanne Perez
I don't know what else to say, actually deserve it.
Liv Morgan
They're the only ones that deserve it. I never lost. I said it. I've never lost it. And I know Roxanne may have lost it, but I. I never lost it, to be fair.
Roxanne Perez
To be fair. Yeah, go ahead. There was, like, every single woman in the roster in that match.
Liv Morgan
Yeah.
Roxanne Perez
And it was kind of.
Liv Morgan
And also, what. It was like your. Your fourth week here. Yeah, the fourth week here.
Roxanne Perez
Yeah.
Liv Morgan
I mean, we can let.
Roxanne Perez
My first paper. She just.
Liv Morgan
Just stepped foot in here. It's okay. It's okay. We're not gonna hold this one loss against her, are we?
Sam Roberts
No, no, no.
Megan Morant
You know, Liv, as. As the leader, really, of the Judgment Day, sometimes you do have to have.
Liv Morgan
There's no leader. There's no leaders. There's no leader.
Sam Roberts
There's no leader.
Megan Morant
As the big. As a. As a role model within the Judgment Day aunt. An aunt in the Judgment Day. On in the Judgment Day, sometimes you have to have difficult conversations with people. And we saw you have one of those difficult conversations tonight with Finn Balor. But then Finn stepped up to CM Punk. So when you saw Finn take action tonight on Monday Night Raw, how did that make you feel as a Judgment Day family?
Liv Morgan
It was good. Because all we want for Finn, we all want to succeed. Our. My success is just as important as Roxanne, just as important as Finn, just as important as JD Just as important as Raquel, just as important as Dominic's. All our successes are equally as important. So to see Finn go from NXT champion, Tag Team champion, United States Champion, World Champion, Grand Slam Champion, to playing video games, not even watching our segments, not even watching us go out on behalf of the Judgment Day, because Judgment Day runs Monday Night Raw. Judgment Day ran Monday Night Raw. So, yeah, you know, seeing Finn sitting there being fine with playing video games as we're chasing gold, as raquel's chasing gold. JD's injured, Dominic's injured.
Roxanne Perez
Yeah.
Liv Morgan
It was a little bit odd to see him be okay with just playing video games. So I had to say something, and I'm glad that I did because look.
Roxanne Perez
Yeah, I'm glad you did.
Liv Morgan
He went out there less than 10 minutes later and took initiative, and we just want the best for him, and that's the Finn Balor that we deserve.
Sam Roberts
It was great to see the initiative taken. I can't wait to see the Punk versus the Prince in Ireland. But also, you say just playing video games, except when he was playing 2K, it was. He was playing as himself, and he was beating up Cody Rhodes in the game. So couldn't there be, like, manifesting.
Liv Morgan
But it's still, you know.
Roxanne Perez
But, like, why wasn't he watching our segment? Why was.
Megan Morant
Yeah.
Roxanne Perez
Watching you literally congratulating us. Hello.
Liv Morgan
We went out there.
Sam Roberts
Oh.
Roxanne Perez
Anything that was going on. So, like, we always watch his.
Liv Morgan
We watch everyone's stuff.
Roxanne Perez
We watch CM Punk.
Liv Morgan
We sit there. We're like, you know what I mean? And so to come back, and he just. Finn, did you watch? You see? And he's like, huh? I'm just. I'm just playing against myself on 2K. It was just like, okay, brother. Okay, brother. Let's. How about we. How about we together and get back to the Finn Balor that said he was going to carry the judgment down his back that wanted championship gold.
Roxanne Perez
Where's.
Liv Morgan
Where's that Finn Balor? And so I do believe that that is the Finn Balor that we are about to see.
Sam Roberts
Did you notice a change in the Judgment Day? I mean, I feel like the entire WWE landscape had shifted while you were gone live and that you came back and it was like, okay, it's time to stake your claim and figure out where you sit across everything. That is kind of as happens every time anybody's gone, the wheels keep spinning on this thing, and you have to figure out where you land when you get back. Did you notice there was a change in the sort of overall landscape or the specific landscape of the Judgment Day while you were gone?
Liv Morgan
You know, the Judgment Day, they went through some waves while I was gone. We had all the gold to losing all the gold. I think that ultimately we just have to support each other. And at the end of the day, I sit at whatever table that I want to, and so I'm okay with doing what Roxanna and I are doing because that's what I want to do.
Sam Roberts
What about you, Roxanne? It seemed like when you first got to the Judgment Day, you had. There was a closeness with Finn Balor that seems to. That dynamic seems to have changed a lot, specifically recently. Is that true or is my perception off?
Roxanne Perez
I mean, I don't think there was a closeness, per se. I think that there was a couple of times where I came as an NXT Superstar to Monday Night Raw, and I think he saw me as the prodigy, saw what I can do in the ring, saw what I bring to the table, and he thought, okay, she's the perfect person. She's the perfect girl to come and bring into the Judgment Day to help out live. And Raquel, that's what I was trying to do. And then sadly lifted. Get hurt. The dynamic changed, and it did feel like Finn kind of just went into his own little world. And again, we noticed that tonight when we walked in, and he wasn't even paying attention to what I was doing or what Liv was doing. So, yeah, I think he deserved to hear what Liv had to say. And I said what I said. I. I said, she has a point. So regardless if he brought me into the Judgment Day or not, we do.
Liv Morgan
What'S right for the Judgment Day. At the end of the day, is.
Sam Roberts
There any sort of personal satisfaction on your end, Liv, that you step back into the women's tag Team championship scene at the exact same time that Rhea Ripley and Iyo sky have gotten those titles? Meaning that you go to Saturday night's main event. It's ironic. It's ironic. You go to Saturday night's main event, you're back in the ring with Rhea.
Liv Morgan
I was like, it's nice to see you, buddy. You look good. Which I meant that it's been a while. It's been a while. She's like the Batman to my Joker. You know, I am the villain in her hero story, and she is the villain in my hero story.
Megan Morant
And.
Liv Morgan
And so I think that we will always have ties to a degree, but this was not intentional. Whomever had. Whomever, whoever, it doesn't matter. Whoever had these tag team titles, we were coming for them regardless. It could have been Rhea. It could have been the Kabugis. It could have been Bailey and Lyra, which is actually never, because they're never going to win those titles ever, ever, ever. It just happened to be Rihanna, so it really was what it was, but it was good to see her.
Sam Roberts
Is there any hesitation based on the fact that, like, at the moment, Rhea, Ripley and EO sky might be the best they've ever been and might be the best women on the entire roster.
Liv Morgan
Yeah, you know, I think that. I think that they're, you know, they are great. They are great.
Roxanne Perez
But.
Liv Morgan
But do you know, I sat home for five months and all I did was watch everyone on this show. So if you don't think I know everyone's strengths and I know everyone's weaknesses, no matter how good or great that they are, all I did was sit home and watch. So if you don't think I have some tricks up my sleeve, you're crazy.
Sam Roberts
Historically, Liv Morgan is dangerous when she comes back from an injury. Yes, you are home alone. Something happens to you when you are off this thing and you come back.
Liv Morgan
I become a psycho.
Sam Roberts
Yeah, you do.
Megan Morant
It's funny because I remember one of the times that Sam and I interviewed you before Liv and you were coming back from an injury, and Sam had asked you if you had any goals heading into the new year. And you looked us dead in the eye without blinking and said, I have no goals, just revenge. And that launched into the Liv Morgan Revenge Tour. And here we are at the start of WrestleMania season. You know, Royal Rumble is not that far away, and I'm looking right now at two women.
Sam Roberts
It was just revenge. That's a very important goal.
Megan Morant
It was revenge.
Sam Roberts
It was a very important goal. But it was just the one New Year, Save me. New Year, Save me.
Liv Morgan
Championships. Well, no, that's. That's a given. That's a given. Well, yeah, that's a given.
Megan Morant
I mean, you two women were two of the last three standing in the Royal Rumble last year. So as you look ahead to 20, 26, you know, goals individually, goals for the Judgment Day, you know, you're looking at these tag team titles, but. But when you think about the year as a whole, are there any goals?
Liv Morgan
Gold, gold, gold for everyone in the Judgment Day. All the gold for the Judgment Day.
Roxanne Perez
Like a little leopard in the Judgment Day is going to have hold gold this year.
Liv Morgan
Dominic's going to hold two.
Sam Roberts
Wow. Did you hear that? Gold is gold.
Liv Morgan
We just want everything. We want all the gold.
Megan Morant
And it doesn't matter which gold.
Sam Roberts
Gold, all gold, everything.
Liv Morgan
Well, we want the. We're getting the second time.
Roxanne Perez
Yes. Yeah, that for sure. But like, we're going to have.
Liv Morgan
Big Sexy is going for that Women's World Championship. You know, Finn, he's going for the World Championship and we're gonna find something for J.D.
Sam Roberts
Wow. Well, look, guys, for that man, I'M I appreciate you guys making some time for us. I appreciate finding out that gold is the goal, and that's what we're looking for in 2026. I cannot wait for Saturday night's main.
Liv Morgan
Event over the Judgment Day.
Sam Roberts
That's right. And what's at the end of that rainbow? What's at the end of the rainbow? There it is. There it is live. Roxanne. Thank you guys so much.
Megan Morant
You're welcome.
Liv Morgan
It was your pleasure.
Sam Roberts
Okay. Roxanne Perez getting that women's Tag Team championship opportunity. And you're right. I mean, you did point out, clearly. I mean, I don't think she likes being called unknown.
Megan Morant
No, not at all.
Sam Roberts
But she is in a.
Megan Morant
You called her old, like, multiple times.
Sam Roberts
She said young. She said she had a young.
Liv Morgan
Yeah.
Megan Morant
And I guess the opposite of young is old. But you never.
Sam Roberts
I didn't say old. I didn't say old. I said, like, those are all words. Like men.
Megan Morant
Matriarch.
Sam Roberts
Matriarch is like the lead, like the female.
Megan Morant
It just implies old.
Sam Roberts
It doesn't imply old. It's maternal. You're a mom.
Megan Morant
I am a mom.
Sam Roberts
Cool mom, like most moms.
Megan Morant
Cool mom. Well, listen, although mother is like a. That's a. That's a cool term, right?
Sam Roberts
Yeah.
Megan Morant
But he is mother. I see that a lot on the Internet.
Sam Roberts
You do? A lot. You have to look. Look into that and tell me if it's a good thing.
Megan Morant
It's not a good thing.
Sam Roberts
No, I think it is a good thing, but I think it is for, like, that maternal sort of figure. But again, you're stepping into that role of mentor. This is. This is important. You know, I'm not insulting anybody.
Megan Morant
I've never heard anybody say about you, he is mother.
Sam Roberts
I would hope not. I would hope not. If anything, I'm. I'm a patriarch. Would you consider yourself my young?
Megan Morant
Yeah, I would.
Sam Roberts
You would?
Megan Morant
Yeah. Yes, I'm your young. Yes. I'm in the Sam Roberts coaching tree.
Sam Roberts
They said. They said, which one of you is younger? And I said, we're about the same age.
Megan Morant
Come on. It's very obvious. I. I'm a little insulted that they didn't know I was younger.
Sam Roberts
About the same.
Megan Morant
I got Botox this weekend. Maybe you did a little more.
Sam Roberts
Yeah, yeah. No.
Megan Morant
Gotta get some more.
Sam Roberts
Get your money back. Listen. No, you're. I'm saying you're a matriarch. It's important. Thank you.
Megan Morant
Thank you. Yeah. So it just called me out. So ridiculous.
Sam Roberts
Aunt.
Megan Morant
Aunt.
Sam Roberts
The big match, Saturday night's main event. Women's tag team championship. We were talking last week about, like, what a big difference Rhea Ripley and Eos guy as a team makes. Like. Like, when you look at the depth of this tag team division, it is absolutely insane. And the idea. And we brought it up with. With. With Roxanne and Liv Morgan, that we're getting Rhea Ripley and Liv Morgan back in the ring together. But this time, it's for the women's tag team championship. It's at Saturday night's main event. This is one of the bigger women's tag team championship matches that we've seen Ever.
Megan Morant
Yeah, ever. I mean, the tag team division is completely loaded. I mean, that was illustrated in the beginning of Monday Night Raw. Yeah. You have Bailey and Lyra come out. The entire crowd is singing to Bailey.
Sam Roberts
Shout out to them, by the way. Right.
Megan Morant
I mean, it's just like when you. If you ever forgot how big of a deal Bailey is tonight, when the entire crowd is singing to her. Oh. Oh, yeah. And that just illustrates the depth of this women's division. But there is something so special about Liv Morgan and Rhea Ripley. Now, we. We lived that rivalry for so many months, and I believe it was the Netflix premiere where that all came to a head.
Sam Roberts
Yeah.
Megan Morant
And Rhea Ripley defeated Liv Morgan, but so much so that, Sam, I think we were back in Philadelphia. The sight of where Liv Morgan threw Rhea Ripley into the wall in the.
Sam Roberts
Arena and injured her.
Megan Morant
Yeah.
Sam Roberts
Yeah.
Megan Morant
And I remember seeing Rhea Ripley standing in front of that wall and getting, like, goosebumps, like, oh, my God, is Liv gonna come back? But there's just something about the two of them. Whether it's a backstage interaction, whether it's tonight when Liv Morgan walks out and says, like, hey, buddy, it's been a while since I've seen you where just the juices start flowing, and you think, oh, are we. Are we. Are we headed back down there? But right now, with Ria and IO so dominant and strong, I don't know how anybody, with all due respect to Roxanne and Live, I don't know how anybody could take them off the top, maybe.
Sam Roberts
But they've only been tag team champions for a week. Who knows how they exist as tag team champions, you know? And I think that whatever's going on, I mean, Liv Morgan's. She's very tricky.
Megan Morant
Oh, yeah.
Sam Roberts
But she's got some kind of plan here.
Megan Morant
And I love how you bring up when she comes back from injury, she has a plan, because every time she's been out, she's come back better than ever.
Sam Roberts
Yeah. Cause she's just at home just making, you know, Charlie Day and always sunny like, like, like, like message like, like, you know, maps and stuff on the big chalkboard with the yarn that goes from one thing to the other. And this one and this one. And somehow these things that look like the. The rantings and ravings of a lunatic all come to fruition and everything comes up Liv Morgan. I mean, that's the one thing we've learned about Liv, is that no matter how dominant somebody appears, you can never count out Liv Morgan. I don't think that people thought when Rhea Ripley and Dominic Mysterio were together that it would ever get better than Rhea and Dom.
Megan Morant
And it did.
Sam Roberts
I mean, come on, Liv. Dom is the greatest thing. You know, it's Savage and Elizabeth. It's the greatest. And that's Liv Morgan. That's the man. And she always, always, always finds a way. I don't know if they win the Tag Team championship. I think that they might, because don't forget, you talk about Rhea Ripley winning the women's championship at that Netflix Raw premiere, but she didn't hold it that long.
Megan Morant
Oh. Because Iyo came knocking on the door. So who's to say that surprised the entire world by winning the title?
Sam Roberts
And what happens if history repeats itself? Not that EO comes along and takes it from her, but that once again, Ria has a short title reign to begin the year because Liv Morgan and Roxanne Perez do what it is that they do. You know, I think, I think certainly stranger things have happened.
Megan Morant
Yes. It's wild to see, with all due respect to Roxanne live IO and Ria in this match for the Tag Team championship. Those are three people that I would have thought, you know, they would be vying for the women's world title.
Sam Roberts
And maybe they still will be.
Megan Morant
Yeah.
Sam Roberts
You know, but that's, that's. That's 100% too. When I. When we were talking about, you know, Ria and Liv being in there together again, the fact that you also throw in Roxanne Perez and Iyo sky, who some feel is like the best female wrestler on the planet right now. Wrestler, many people feel she's the best in ring wrestler on the planet right now for sure.
Megan Morant
I mean, you were in Bridgeport at the live event or the reaction for, for Iyo, it was massive. Yeah.
Sam Roberts
Just everybody pointing at the sides of their heads all over the place. Everybody loves it because they can't believe it. Yeah. I mean, I can't wait for this one. I think it's going to be a really special one.
Megan Morant
It's so interesting because, you know, we. We tried in many ways during that conversation with Liv and Roxanne to talk about how Liv is going after the tag team title. And they seem fully in support of Raquel.
Sam Roberts
Oh, there was no break in that.
Megan Morant
None.
Sam Roberts
No. These factions somehow between the vision, between the Judgment Day, like everybody's on the same page, it's pretty remarkable because that doesn't usually happen in this world.
Megan Morant
It's wild because, like Liv, Liv obviously has the confidence in herself and she's been a world champion before that. She doesn't maybe right now feel like she needs to prove it again, but she's focused on bringing along Roxanne, bringing along the Judgment Day, and letting Raquel have her moment.
Sam Roberts
Right.
Megan Morant
Think of Liv Morgan.
Sam Roberts
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Megan Morant
Soon.
Sam Roberts
Very, very soon. Don't sleep on this one. Now, when we talk about the Judgment Day, when we talk about number one contenders, we didn't just crown a number one contender for the Women's Tag Team Championship. We also found out, first of all, I mean, Raquel Rodriguez once again just deciding that Monday night is the night.
Megan Morant
To destroy Stephanie Vacair, who's already has an injured foot.
Sam Roberts
I mean, I would say Raquel made it worse last week and then made it worse again this week. As long as that boot is on Stephanie Vacair's foot, maybe stay home because Raquel Rodriguez is not interested in stopping at all.
Megan Morant
I mean, she's lucky she had the boot on. Her leg might be cut in half if it wasn't for the boot, right?
Sam Roberts
Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. I mean, I'm very interested to see where this is going to go because Stephanie Vaccara has not put down the Women's World Championship.
Megan Morant
No.
Sam Roberts
And you would have thought that, okay, maybe this is, this is a road to vacating that title. But she's still saying she's not. And it's interesting that Raquel is like, look, either I'm going to fight a weakened Stephanie Vacair, or I'm just going to make you give up the title, whichever comes first. Either way, it's a pretty, pretty good strategy. Strategy, bold strategy. See if it pays off. So we also from the Judgment Day, and I mean, this is big for the Judgment Day. This is exactly what Liv was talking about. Have a new number one contender for the World Heavyweight Championship. On the men's side of things, CM Punk is standing in the ring. He's talking about his match for Bron Breaker last week. He's talking about how everything went, how he beat Bron Breaker. And then he says, you know, now it's wide open to find out who's next. And boom, here comes Finn Balor. And this was after. And I still, by the way, stand by. First of all, video games are a great stress reliever. Great stress reliever. And second of all, Finn Balor was playing as himself and fighting Cody Rhodes in 2K.
Megan Morant
So it just manifesting excuses him from supporting the rest of the Judgment Day.
Sam Roberts
Well, he's got a dvr. I'm sure it's on Netflix. It's there forever.
Megan Morant
He's in the building.
Sam Roberts
He was in the middle of a great game, but. But he comes out to immediately approach CM Punk. And I love the strategy. I love going, hey, man, I'm not skipping any line. I'm not begging you for anything. You said my name. You said my name when you were talking about people that may challenge you. Well, here I am. And man, I don't know if CM Punk wants to be drawing into question the motivation of Finn Balor, because Finn Balor, there's an interesting thing I feel like going on with Finn Balor. Not only was Liv Morgan just talking about how much he's done, not only was he on Raw, what was it last week or the week before, talking about how he's coming for gold. Like, this is. This is what it's going to be all about. He was just on Cody Rhodes podcast and they were talking about the whole history of everything that he did, how important that everything that he did. I mean, he changed the title in Japan before he even got here. Everything that he did, he. He put Japan on the map. I mean, it already was on the map, but you know what I'm saying? I mean, just made such an impact there. Then he came to NXT and was an absolute key pillar in creating that brand, in making black and gold into. Must see through his. His whole world title run and his matches with, like, Kevin Owens and Sami Zayn and everybody. Then, like you just said, comes to raw, wins the universal title. I mean, and has had classics and classics and classics. And again, people forget. Like we were just talking about with AJ Styles and Gunther, and I think there was part of Finn Balor that was maybe woken up by Liv Morgan and going like, wait, do people not know? Do I. I was just. Do people not know who I am? Let me. Maybe I do need to go remind him.
Megan Morant
And you have said this about Finn Balor for as long as I've known you, that he has the ability within one match to remind everybody that he can be a world champion, that he can be the face of the company, that he can be right at the top of the card.
Sam Roberts
Yeah, that's how I feel.
Megan Morant
One match.
Sam Roberts
That is true. That is true. That's how I feel about Finn Balor, that it's like all it takes is one match sometimes, one promo, one reminder to be like, no, I just. I mean, I'm not, I'm not. I'm not a braggart. That's all. Did you guys forget?
Megan Morant
And how about CM Punk saying, what have you been doing? Shining Liv Morgan shoes.
Sam Roberts
I mean, that was tough. That was tough. That was tough. I mean, Finn Balor, I think. I think, you know, he doesn't maybe always carry himself like a person who's done as much as he's done.
Megan Morant
He's humble.
Sam Roberts
Maybe there's a humility to it, you know, but, like, I do think that there's a big part of it where people are like, oh, yeah, he's kind of. He's been around, you know, And I think people at times have treated AJ Styles in a similar way.
Megan Morant
Yeah.
Sam Roberts
And then it's. It's. It's incumbent upon AJ Styles to go, hey, no, this is what an AJ Styles match looks like. And I think Finn Balor's in the exact same position now. You're going to Ireland next week. We're not waiting for Saturday night's main event. You're going to Ireland next week to your home country to fight. Not only to fight for the world Heavyweight championship, but to fight CM Punk for the World Heavyweight Championship. Finn Balor versus CM Punk for the World Heavyweight Championship.
Megan Morant
No numbers game. No judgment day. Punk even called that out. Punk said, I dealt with the numbers game in the vision, and I'm not dealing with that this time.
Sam Roberts
And Finn Balor said, good. You don't have to, like, again, you forgot. This is like a fantasy warfare World Heavyweight title match that's just happening on RAW next Monday. Like, this is. This is one of those, like, oh, my gosh.
Megan Morant
And if anybody could just without, you know, without anybody expecting it, take the world title from CM Punk, it's Finn Balor.
Sam Roberts
Absolutely. I mean, this is why.
Megan Morant
What's up everybody's nose?
Sam Roberts
3Pm Eastern special start time next week.
Megan Morant
By dinner, we could have a new World Heavyweight Champion.
Sam Roberts
That's exactly right. And we'll all be eating potatoes and everything they eat in Ireland to celebrate Finn Balor and everyone else. I know some. You know, there are some people in the control room that think that potatoes don't properly represent Ireland, but I've heard they love potatoes.
Megan Morant
Well, hopefully we'll be eating lots of potatoes to celebrate another. Another champion in Ireland next week as well.
Sam Roberts
Who's that?
Megan Morant
Becky Lynch. But, I mean, she's defending her title against Maxine Dupree.
Sam Roberts
She is.
Megan Morant
Which is kind of wild that Maxine just, you know, gets another shot right away.
Sam Roberts
Well, Becky hooked the rope when she pinned Maxine.
Megan Morant
I didn't see that. Oh, didn't either.
Sam Roberts
No, he didn't. No, he didn't. I mean, I. And I could have sworn we were talking about CM Punk and Finn Balor, but I guess.
Megan Morant
Well, you were talking about potatoes in Ireland. When I think of Ireland, I think of Becky lynch and potatoes. That's right, yeah.
Roxanne Perez
Yeah.
Megan Morant
Because in our vlogs, she always talks about potatoes.
Sam Roberts
Yeah, I've heard about her vlog.
Megan Morant
Yeah. You were in it this week.
Sam Roberts
I know.
Megan Morant
Congrats to you. That's big. That's good for you.
Sam Roberts
She just steals tape for those vlogs. Like, just steals content. Just a content thief. I told her I left a comment to expect a copyright strike because there's footage from my show. She didn't dare to get her own footage. She decided to. First of all, we haven't even spoken since then. I'm at work, okay? I'm trying to get away from this madness of getting all caps, tweets in the middle of the night, of getting harassed. You remember what happened last time we were in the building to do a countdown show at John Cena's final Match.
Megan Morant
Oh yeah.
Sam Roberts
Was I harassed or was I not harassed?
Megan Morant
You were harassed.
Sam Roberts
Yes.
Megan Morant
Kind of deserved it.
Sam Roberts
For what? Standing.
Megan Morant
Just spreading misinformation about Becky Lynch.
Sam Roberts
And then I find out, and I remember back before they let people just film whatever they want in the locker rooms, it was a private place, you know. But then I see tape from Becky lynch harassing me backstage. Show up on the vlog, which I've never signed a release to be on this vlog. It's crazy, crazy stuff. And I go, well I gotta just like. And then I go, I host a morning show. I'm not even talking about wrestling. You know, I was talking about Metro cards. I was having a conversation about Metro cards. That's what I was talking about. And all of a sudden it's a Tuesday, it's last Tuesday and the door gets kicked open and I just hear an Irish brogue laughing like Seth Rollins for whatever reason. Hahahaha. And rub. I mean, I was within an inch and a half of the intercontinental championship. She pushed it right in my face in a very, very hostile way.
Megan Morant
Did you get excited? Did you like that?
Sam Roberts
I think the belts are cool, but I am trying to act in a professional way and I don't need the show getting invaded. And then I go, okay, well I'll post video of it after it happened. It was just in there for like 10 minutes almost.
Megan Morant
She brought me up. It was good.
Sam Roberts
Oh, I know, I know. She brought. And then she brought you up on other shows too.
Megan Morant
Great.
Sam Roberts
No, it wasn't great.
Megan Morant
It was great.
Sam Roberts
No, she said that you should be on the morning.
Megan Morant
I think she's right.
Sam Roberts
Okay, well guess what?
Megan Morant
And guess what? She wasn't the only one saying it. A lot of the guys on your show were like, you know what? She was right about Megan.
Sam Roberts
Well yeah, well I don't think that. Well whatever. That's neither here nor there.
Megan Morant
Look, if you're upset about being in this vlog, I mean you can certainly take it up with Becky lynch. But just remember, she has the greatest lawyers in the country.
Sam Roberts
Well, our lawyers are going to get a letter because then she put me in the vlog again. She used that footage from the radio show that it was our footage and she just put it in her vlog. So there will be legal activities and you'll lose. Okay, good, fine, whatever. I'll tell you what. Maybe you know what I'm going to do?
Megan Morant
What?
Sam Roberts
I'm going to hope that she's doing a meet and greet at Fanatics Fest because I'm going to Bring a subpoena right to her at the meeting. Drop it out. Yeah, that's right. They're gonna say, oh, did you want an 8 by 10 signed? And I'd be like, oh, yeah, just one thing. You've been served. And that's the magic of Fanatics Fest, creating moments like serving Becky lynch court papers for theft of intellectual property. This is the big news.
Megan Morant
Not a moment I want to be a part of.
Sam Roberts
Anybody who wants to be involved in this, who wants to see it firsthand, you can be there. WWE Sports Fans. The world's number one sports fan festival, Fanatics Fest is making its return to New York City. Fanatics is bringing you closer to the league's team Superstars and athletes that you love. Across four action packed days in July, you can meet your favorite WWE Superstars. Fanatics has announced. Wait till you hear this. We got some names. You ready?
Megan Morant
Yes.
Sam Roberts
Fanatics has announced. Cody Rhodes.
Megan Morant
Let's go.
Sam Roberts
Rhea Ripley, EO Sky, Liv Morgan Jay uso, Charlotte Flair. Becky Lynch.
Megan Morant
That's right.
Sam Roberts
Oh, she's getting served. Randy Orton, Stephanie Vicare, Tiffany Stratton and Bianca Belair will all be in attendance, as well as big names across sports like WWE Superfan, Cam Scatterbo. You'll be able to get your hands on exclusive merch and catch live podcasts. Tickets are on sale now. The best part is Raw recap, fans can get a 10% discount by using code RAWRAP10 at checkout. Go to Fanatics Fest, use code RAWRAP10 at checkout and it's all yours.
Megan Morant
I think we actually have a shot of Becky lynch coming on your show which gracing you with her presence on the morning show. Oh, there it is. Look at, look at how excited you are to see the belt, to see the champion.
Sam Roberts
I wasn't overly excited.
Megan Morant
You were.
Sam Roberts
And look at. She's tagging me in the tweet. She really does. She just wants to harass you.
Megan Morant
This is big for you, big for you because the show need a little bit of help.
Sam Roberts
You think this is the boost that it needed? Yes, it's very insulting.
Megan Morant
And now the ratings, I'm told I just, they've been up.
Sam Roberts
What ratings?
Megan Morant
The ratings of your show.
Sam Roberts
Oh, fine, fine. I forgot about the ratings. I didn't get the quarterlies.
Megan Morant
Well, they were down. But good news for you. 20:26 Starting hot thanks to Becky Lynch.
Sam Roberts
Okay, good.
Megan Morant
So that's, that's big.
Sam Roberts
I'm glad it's looking up. You think Otis and and Tozawa are going to get the tag? Team championship from the USO's.
Megan Morant
I mean, Otis wanted to be taken seriously.
Sam Roberts
Maxine said you could do it. I don't think they could do it. It's the uso. It's the greatest tech team of all time.
Megan Morant
I know.
Sam Roberts
Well, look, we're gonna find out all that and more next week. Special start time for Monday Night Raw, 3pm Eastern. But an early Monday Night Raw is gonna mean an early recap. We will be here right after the show. I hope you will be here too. Don't forget to subscribe across all audio platforms like and and comment on YouTube. And we will see you next Monday for more RAW recap.
Episode: Liv Morgan & Roxanne Perez have their eyes on tag team gold
Date: January 12, 2026
Podcast: WWE x Fanatics Podcasts
This action-packed episode offers an insider's take on WWE’s Monday Night Raw, now airing on Netflix. Hosts Sam Roberts and Megan Morant deliver their bold commentary and hot takes on the latest show, breaking down major developments in title pictures, key storylines, and backstage drama. The highlight is a lively interview with Liv Morgan and Roxanne Perez—the new #1 contenders for the Women’s Tag Team Titles—as they plot their path to championship glory. The hosts also dissect Gunther’s controversial victory over AJ Styles, Bron Breakker's explosive conduct and suspension, and major movements in the men’s and women’s title scenes, setting the stage for an epic Saturday Night’s Main Event and more.
Timestamps: 00:01 – 03:02
World Heavyweight Championship Contention:
Bron Breakker’s Outburst & Suspension:
Timestamps: 03:02 – 07:44
Timestamps: 10:21 – 13:51
Timestamps: 13:53 – 22:44
High-Stakes Main Event:
Gunther’s Unique Strategy:
Timestamps: 25:18 – 41:56
Timestamps: 44:33 – 56:56
Women’s Division:
Raquel Rodriguez & Stephanie Vacair:
Finn Balor returns to World Title Contention:
Timestamps: 56:57 – 62:24
Sam Roberts on Heyman vs. Pearce:
Megan Morant on the Vision’s in-ring synergy:
Sam Roberts on Gunther’s brilliance:
Megan Morant’s resigned respect:
Liv Morgan (interview) on leadership:
Liv Morgan, on watching the division from home:
The episode’s tone is spirited and fast-paced, blending sharp analysis with lively WWE-appropriate humor and inside jokes, especially during the segment with Liv Morgan and Roxanne Perez. The hosts are unafraid to adopt fan perspectives (“Are we really going to have to watch Gunther end another career?”) while also providing a polished, insider insight reminiscent of modern sports talk shows. The interplay with the Superstars is playful yet direct, and the recurring themes of mentorship, faction loyalty, and championship ambition shine through.
This edition of Raw Recap gives you everything you need to know going into the next phase of Raw—from who’s in line for the major titles, to how backstage power plays and personality clashes are shaping storylines and character arcs. The depth of the women’s division, the cunning and charisma of stars like Gunther and Paul Heyman, and the dynamic, family-like energy of the Judgment Day faction are all front and center. If you’re catching up, don’t worry—you’re now up to speed on all the action, alliances, and ambitions that will define WWE’s next big events.