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David.
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Yes?
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Have you ever noticed that the way.
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What are the other things that are ironic?
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Spoiler alert. Seth Rollins has a briefcase. Naomi has a briefcase. And R Truth is back. I just saw him in the ring. We've got about all of it. This is the WWE Money in the bank recap brought to you by fanatics. Megan, we just got off the arena floor and I mean, when the good guys win, the good guys win. Wrestling. Sometimes you and I think I speak for a lot of fans when I say that at times we need a reminder of how great wrestling is. And tonight you saw me, I saw you in our glory. Tonight was that reminder of how great wrestling can be.
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I thought entering the day, your voice was making a recovery. You had a rough week, and now we're back to square one again because our truth is back.
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No, it didn't help that. What was I saying? I mean, shouting Cena sucks. And singing every word to the Cody song probably didn't help it either. But you know what? You know what?
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It was worth it.
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It was worth it 100%. I'm never gonna go back and go, oh, I wish I only. I wish I had my voice a little stronger.
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It was a tough week for all of us wrestling fans. Everybody was upset about our truth.
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Listen, of all ironies, after what John Cena said on Smackdown, it was ultimately John Cena who could not handle the truth. How do we like it now? R. Truth makes an appearance in the main event of Money in the Bank. This tag match with John Cena and Logan Paul versus Cody Rhodes and Jey uso. And you are right. Let's not pretend we didn't hear the chance at going through all week. Let's not pretend we didn't see the app mentions across every form of social media. The news had broken on the Internet that R Truth was no longer gonna be employed by WWE and the fans made their voice heard. I don't know. I can't wait to find out. What is the story behind all this. Was this a plot from the beginning? Was this something that changed all of a sudden? I will tell you that I can act surprised, but it's very hard to actually surprise me. And I was actually surprised you and.
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I were talking today, bro.
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I texted R Truth when he was tweeting over the weekend.
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I texted, listen, I did too. And I didn't get a response, so.
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Well, that makes me feel even better about getting a response, listen now, knowing that I won't mention that I did get a response. But that's my point. I got a response. Yeah. And it was like. And now here he is, look, I mean, this is all so intriguing, but so great. It's like as a wrestling fan, you go, this is what I want. This is what I want. This is what I want. And after not getting what we want, after seeing Seth Rollins become a villain and beat both CM Punk and, and Roman Reigns and have Paul Heyman leave the bloodline after seeing Cody Rhodes lose the title due to interference by, of all people, Travis Scott. And John Cena wins the title and goes on his ruined wrestling tour that he's been on. Sometimes you just need to get what you want. And we said what we wanted and, and tonight we got it. It looked like it was curtains. Logan Paul, say what you want about him, had this unbelievable moonsault from the outside of the ring all the way to that table. That table blew into a million pieces.
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In a way that we've never seen that table break.
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That's right, Jey USO is dunsky. The referee is checking on him. Once again, that dirty, dirty John Cena takes the WWE Championship and makes Cody Rhodes taste it.
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And we look at each other and go, no, not again. Not again.
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I can't take it.
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No, not again. And then this hooded figure comes out. I mean, and I said to you, CM Punk.
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Yes, you did. And I said, I said, that doesn't make any sense, Megan.
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Who else could it be?
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I don't know. I don't know. The hooded figure comes out, takes out John Cena, and the erruption that rang through the Intuit Dome when that hoodie comes off. And our truth is under the mask now, let me tell you, under the hood. And it was a mask and everything. I mean, this was. I mean, it was, it was. They say that you. We don't get surprised in wrestling anymore, but sometimes we do. And this, we needed this one.
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Nobody saw this coming.
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We got. Nobody saw it coming. We, we got this one. The good guys win. And it was such a phenomenal Thing to see Tweet went out on WWE's Twitter account. It's time to speculate wildly because the tweet said, I wanna quote it properly, I'm going to WWE's account. This is coming from WWE shop. It said, ron Killings is here. Oh, head to WWE shop to get your gear now so you can get the T shirt on ww.
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And earlier in the week, the R.
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Truth merch was Wrong Killings. Who's to say, who's to say what it all means? But the point is that our truth comes in and makes the save. And you know, we were talking about this on the Countdown show. I talked to you about this match being so important and the tension that surrounded this match because it really did feel like there were two directions for the WWE that we know and love to go in. And one of those directions is to center around the Superstars that we've watched build over 10, 15, sometimes even more years to finally ascend to this place where they are Cody Rhodes, where they are Jey uso, where everything they have is utterly earned. And we who have been watching WWE forever went on this journey and we see these guys and what makes them the good guys is that we have watched them work hard and do the right thing and prove people wrong. And sometimes in this world you need. Wrestling has to be an escape. You need to know that in some universe, if you just work hard and do the right thing for long enough, the good guys win. You can win. And that's what Cody Rhodes, that's what Jey USO is. On the other end, you have John Cena, who to some extent is that however he decides no, the future is in the hands of this guy who's got eyeballs and is very athletic. And people go, well, he's so athletic, he's so good. But to bring those eyeballs in, and I'm not saying there's no value to it, and I'm not saying he's not good, by the way, but we haven't been on that journey with him and he hasn't been on that journey with us. It doesn't mean he doesn't belong here. But it does mean that we as fans feel like people like that can't take away the people like Cody Rhodes and Jey USO who put all of this sweat equity in. And you know who's another person who's in that Cody Rhodes, Jey USO category?
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Who's that?
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R Truth.
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That's correct.
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And we see tonight that ultimately the WWE Superstars, the wrestlers Were triumphant. They won. And it just felt. Megan, it felt so fulfilling.
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Yeah. And I like what you say about someone like Logan Paul. There's certainly a place for Logan Paul in wwe.
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And WWE benefits from his presence.
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And honestly, we benefit from the highlights.
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Yeah, of course we do, but. And WWE benefits from saying he's a marquee player.
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Without question.
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Yes.
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But the problem that we all have as wrestling fans with Logan Paul or with the current version of John Cena that we're seeing is them taking away from people like Jey USO from people like Cody Rhodes.
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Logan Paul, the truth.
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Yes. It feels like Logan Paul has been given everything on a silver platter. Now. He's very talented and I'm sure he works hard in his own way, but it's not the same as the journey of Cody finishing the story and the journey of Jey USO becoming World Heavyweight Champion and the journey of R Truth joining the Judgment Day. R Truth doing all of the things that R Truth has done that makes us all love him so much.
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And it's also really interesting in wrestling because for so long, being a quote unquote, good guy was passe. Being a good guy was like, it was really difficult to be a good guy. That wasn't like a wink, wink, cool good guy. Actually a bad guy does bad guy things, but is cool enough. So we'll cheer him. We're now in this era where you can have good guys again. And for a second, it felt like they were being taken away. But there was no doubt about it. At the end of the night, at the end of Money in the bank, the good guys won. And grown men and grown women and little boys and little girls, we were high fiving children.
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Throw out the Intuit Dome.
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Everybody was celebrating on the exact same wavelength. And that's the beautiful thing about professional wrestling, when everybody comes together and sees this through. And this idea that, like at one point a year ago, if I told you no R Truth comes in and makes the save for Cody Rhodes and Jey USO against John Cena and Logan Paul, you go, what? Like, is it a goof? No. But tonight there couldn't have been a more perfect person to do it. It was amazing.
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I mean, throughout the week, the emotional rollercoaster that we all went on a week ago on Sunday, we all read the news on social media and then the crowd erupting. Throughout Monday Night Raw, throughout Friday Night smackdown, throughout nxt, throughout Money in the bank, everybody wanted truth. And it feels good to get what you want.
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So we saw we saw a lot. The story of this match was an interesting one. We saw tension throughout the match between Logan Paul and John Cena. Blind tags, you know, John Cena trying to captain this thing on his own.
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Communication issues. Yeah.
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And Logan Paul not. Not taking too kindly to that. We saw quite a few attitude adjustments. We saw some pulverizers. Cody took a pulverizer. Thank God Jey USO was there to make the save. There was that one moment when Cody took the attitude adjustment that it was like, that's it. Oh, my God, it's over. And then at 2, and I would seven eighths, Cody gets that shoulder up, and there's just that much more fight in him. And then, of course, Logan Paul. I love this about Logan Paul. It's poetic, really, that, like, he's in prime position.
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No pun intended.
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No pun intended, but I will accept it.
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Okay.
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He's in prime position that time. The pun was intended to take advantage. Right. And he gets to the top rope, and then he sees that drone camera and he goes, come to me.
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Logan loves a camera. He's never seen one he doesn't like.
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And it's a cool shot, except it was that camera that got his focus away from the match and allowed Cody to put him into that superplex off the top rope. We already talked about the table exploding, but then, I mean, the spear on.
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The table was awesome by Jay USO as well.
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It was great table to table.
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Yeah.
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Unfortunately, it left Jay USO prone in a position for Logan Paul to explode him through it.
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Yes.
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But, you know, ultimately, for everything to go down the way it went down, I thought it was like, it was kind of a perfect ending to that story. There were a lot of great moments. I found the Intuit Dome was. We were here. We're here backstage at the Intuit Dome right now recording this pod.
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What an arena.
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An amazing arena, but an amazing crowd. I mean, they were loud for many matches, for many different stories. You could tell exactly who the favorites were here. And I thought that that was a lot of fun.
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I thought the match also built very well.
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The tag match.
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Yes. At the end, it's a crescendo. Yeah. I mean, there were points at the beginning I was kind of, okay, where is this going? And it really. It took you along for the ride.
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Yeah.
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You Talked about after WrestleMania how there's matches that are told in parts and.
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Every story should be told in three acts.
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I felt like this had acts.
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It's a great story.
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Here we go.
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And act three was amazing. R Truth Showing up, I mean, or Ron Killings. And wow, that's the point, right? R. Truth showing up leaves you only going, first of all, I feel great. What a great show. And second of all, what happens next? And it's so interesting because there were so many people that when this match was announced on Saturday night's main event between John Cena and R. Truth, there were many people that were going, why are we doing this match? What is this, just some filler match? They were kind of pooh poohing the whole thing. I didn't love that they were doing that, but that's what many people did. Now is the beauty of storytelling. We've weaved our way into this place where our truth is an essential player in whatever is coming next for John Cena. And I think that all of us, myself included, who had this whole thing thought out and forecasted out, well, if Cody's coming back here, that means this match has to happen there and over here, it has to happen there. I'm at this place where I got to turn on the show to find out what happens next. And that's the way the show is supposed to work. You want to turn on the next show to find out what happens next and how this new universe looks. And this new universe is the universe in which our truth has become that essential player in this John Cena story.
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I mean, Sam, you and I, we pay attention to what the conversation is on the Internet. And all week it was, did John Cena get rid of our truth? And I even asked you today, like, do you think anyway, no, there's no way. There's absolutely no way. Because then what happens next? What happens? And now we're left wondering the same question, but our truth is involved in.
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The best way possible. Yeah, a lot of amazing, amazing moments went down tonight. But one of the most amazing moments to me was not only the men's money in the bank ladder match, but the women's money in the bank ladder match. The women's money in the bank ladder match we had talked about, this was littered with this cast of women who really Exemplified where the WWE's women's division is today. From women that have been on the roster for years to women who are controlling the division today, to women who are promising to control the division tomorrow, all assembled in this six person ladder match. And the person to get that briefcase was Naomi. Now, we are lucky to say that we ran right back to this room and said, somebody tried to get Naomi in here. That's what we said. And you know what? Somebody did and they weren't successful, but then another person did and they were successful. We got the very first interview with the new Ms. Money in the Bank, Naomi. Let's welcome the brand new Miss Money in the Bank, Naomi. How does it sound? It just happened. How does it sound?
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Ah, it sounds wonderful. I told him. I told him. I told everybody. Yeah, that's what everybody get for always counting me out. But you see what happened when you stop being so nice and you put yourself first, you get your little sum.
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Well, you do. I mean, results are clear. You are somebody who has been here for a long time, and you've seen a lot of women carry this briefcase, and you've seen a lot of women gain a lot of success from this briefcase. Knowing that this is not your locker room peer, this is not your tag team partner, this is not somebody who just came in. This is your briefcase. What are the feelings that go through you right now?
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Oh, my gosh. There's just the possibilities.
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Yeah.
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This is career changing for me. This can catapult me to where I see myself being. To where I've always should have been. Been there, you know, but could never really keep it there. This time I'm going to get there and I'm going to stay there. And this briefcase is going to help me do that. This contract is going to help me do that. This new found Persona, alter ego I have is gonna help me do that.
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Yeah, it seemed like it snapped in and it seemed like you have complete. It's almost like Venom. You know Venom, that movie Vent, where the Venom takes over Eddie Brock and all of a sudden this. Yeah, you know about Venom. You know about. There it is like, I don't know that you have control over it, but also it clearly has results. So maybe you don't need control.
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C
Yeah, I had to pack the glow away for a little bit. Glow Just couldn't get the things done at this stage, at this caliber we're at in the division, so I had to come up with something else. And it's working, so I'm gonna stay there.
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Yeah, it's probably. Probably a good idea.
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Well, and you talk about the caliber in the division. Sam and I were talking about this a lot heading into the women's money in the bank ladder match. And it was kind of like all of these different generations were on display. You and Alexa, veterans, you had the, you know, really like the future. And Julia, Stephanie Vacair, Roxanne. And then you have Rhea Ripley in the mix as well. What has it been like, just to watch this all grow.
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It's been such a journey and an experience to have seen and been a part of so many different evolutions and eras of this division here in the wwe. And it just keeps getting better. And being in the Money in the bank for the fifth time more than any of the other women, and I still didn't feel like I had a one up because a. Every single woman in there was believable. To have done it and to have won it, and everyone is so good. So I just had to get up in there and get nasty.
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And you did, and you did, and I congratulate you.
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C
Work smarter, not harder. I've done it the hard way all four times. You keep doing the same thing, expecting, you know, different results. That ain't gonna work. That's insanity. I ain't insane no more. As crazy as people think I am, I ain't crazy. I think I got good sense, and I think I'm finally using my sense to get what I want.
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B
And it's working. It is working. And it seems like that, I mean, we were noticing watching the match that, like, you disappeared for the first half of the match. But what's the moment in every Money in the bank match, what's the moment that everybody remembers the last one? You're climbing the ladder. Right. And I mean, I also think, like, you're in such this position because a lot of us have watched the journey. A lot of us have been there from day one. So we're witnessing you be this bad human being, attacking people, doing all of this. I mean, you threw someone through a windshield.
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C
I mean, it, you know, she didn't die.
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No, she's all right. She survived. But. But my. But she is all right.
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C
But it's just a push.
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It was a push. It was just the car was there. There is.
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You've seen all the things that have been done to me and what I've gone through, everybody that I've helped, everybody that I put before myself. So now that I'm finally putting myself first, why am I wrong?
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I think that there was this moment, though, that you walked out tonight, and there was this collective realization that I think people realize that this is. This could be more so than any other year, Naomi's year. I felt that Megan was talking about on the podcast last week. This is the best work that we've ever seen out of Naomi.
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C
Okay, good.
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B
When you climbed up that ladder, you stopped halfway through and you looked around and it felt like you took a moment before you climbed up the rest of the way and got the briefcase. When you realized you were the only person in the ring, what was going through you when you took that moment?
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I had to. Because all the times prior, you're just trying to get there. I had to make sure this time that the coast was clear and that everybody, nobody was.
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Was.
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Was coming for me before I really went for it. And that's just the experience that I gained from all of the other times. I wanted to make sure that this moment was there and to take the right opportunity and time to really go up there and snatch it.
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B
You've been a. You've been a singles champion here before. You've been a singles champion in tna, but there is something about you where when you first got to wwe, you were in a tag team. You were a funkadactyl. When you left the W, she still knows all the moves. When you left the wwe, you were in a tag team. When you came back to the wwe, you were in a tag team. There's something about now that feels like you've stripped all that away and you've clearly identified yourself as a lonely singles star. Do you think that's something that you needed to do?
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Absolutely, 1,000%. And I think I've always fed off the energy of others. I've always enjoyed being in tag teams. I've always been the type to want to carry others, elevate others, give to others. And I think I'm at that point where. And I learned and found during my time away that I had given so much of that that I didn't put enough into myself. So when I came back, this go round and the breakdown of my relationships and friendships, you just. You just learn over time. And sometimes to get to the top of this business, sometimes you just got to do what you got to do. It's. It's. I've never been as cutthroat as I am now, but in this part of my career, I have to be sorry, newbies, sorry, nxt, sorry, old friends, no new friends. It's Naomi time.
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I agree.
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That's where I'm at. And whoever don't like it, better proceed with coaching.
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A
I. Naomi, now, I know she didn't die and you just pushed her on a windshield. But now you have this money in the bank contract and there's a big target on your back, and you haven't really been making friends. You've been making enemies. Are you at all concerned that Jade or Bianca or any other enemies that you may make on this road could interfere with a Successful cash in. Because the women, I mean, it's been 100% success rate.
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C
Yeah. I mean, this changes everything. So I definitely got some things to think about. I'm not too worried about Bianca. That's my baby. That's my girl. We going through our little. We're going through a. Some trials and tribulations in our relationship. Jade can go to hell. I'm not worried about her, Bianca. I just gotta. We got some things to work through. I'm gonna just leave her alone for right now. She's healing. Her finger broke. I'm not too worried about her. Yeah, Tiffany and Jade, those are the only two I gotta worry about mainly are my focus right now.
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A
So Tiffany, Nadia, Sky. Tiffany's the one that you have your eyes set on?
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C
Well, yeah. She pretty much has been ruining my career since I returned and came back when I was chasing the championship. She did everything to stop me and be in my way and to help Nia Jax. I ain't forgot about that. She the first one I'm coming for.
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A
Okay.
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B
And it also goes back to what you were saying and you said, sorry, newbies. I would imagine that there is a thing, right, when you hear everybody saying, for the last year or two, nxt. Best women's division in wrestling before nxt.
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C
You got to think I was here during the first game show of NXT when there was only, I don't know, maybe six, seven, eight of us. I don't even remember before all of this, before Paige, there was Naomi, before Caitlin, there was Naomi before Mercedes, Charlotte, Becky Bailey. The explosion of the four horsewomen. There was Naomi before Rhea Ripley, there was Naomi before Bianca Belair, there was Naomi. Before Roxanne, there was Naomi. And the list goes on and on and on. So I've been experiencing, seeing these newbies come in and take my shine for a very long time. And if I gotta push em off a rooftop, I will from now on before I let another one take my shine and my spot.
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B
And I love the. The poetry of it. The fact that you and I weren't.
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C
Even trying to flow like that, you.
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B
Know, it just comes natural.
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C
The truth is. The truth.
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B
It is, it is. And now somebody who relatively recently arrived to the main roster, won the women's championship has to look down the barrel of a veteran with a briefcase who, by the way, try as you might, is garnering support. Because people, people go. When people hear you say stuff like that, they go, you know what? She's not wrong. That's the difficult.
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C
That's why I Don't understand why everybody is so shook and so shocked that I'm clocking T now. I should have clocked t 16 years ago. I was too nice for 16 years. And now everybody like, oh, she's. She's unhinged.
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B
No, I'm not.
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C
I'm finally being honest for the first time, and I'm tired, and I'm beat up. No, we not doing this no more. So I don't know what they gonna do. That's why I tell them.
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B
Proceed with what?
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C
Caution.
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B
I knew it. I knew it. Naomi. I mean, I am in agreement with Megan. When we talk about the work that you're doing right now being the best that it's ever been, I watch and I believe that you are unhinged. And the fact is. Am I in the best possible way? I meant that in his comment.
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C
Okay, I'll take it.
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B
I'll take it. Right. Because. Because. Because being unhinged has brought you here.
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C
True.
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B
Which makes me believe that as you move forward, there is no sort of, hey, why don't you chill out a little bit? Why would you chill out? Clearly, it's working.
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C
Thank you. I like that. That is so. That's the most positive thing I've heard all day.
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B
That's right. Thank you. Right. But I'll tell you, there was one more positive. More positive thing than that, which was. Here is your winner and the new Ms. Money in the Bank. Naomi.
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C
Music to my ears.
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B
Congratulations. I can't wait to see where this goes. I appreciate you being so generous with your time.
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C
Thank you. And I'm a busy girl these days.
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B
I mean, also, I mean, you got to be watching the Queen of the Ring tournament coming up, because theoretically, you cash in.
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C
Clock it.
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B
No, go clock it. Okay. You cash in before the Queen of the Ring. Queen of the Ring is now the number one contender.
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C
Looking at you, I didn't even think about that.
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B
Right, right.
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C
They don't let the wrong one get the briefcase.
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B
They done.
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C
No, they should have never let me get that briefcase.
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B
Well, they let you, and you've got it. Congratulations. Thank you, Naomi.
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C
Thank you. I'm about to wreak havoc on everybody. Bye.
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B
Bye.
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A
Bye.
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B
I believe her.
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A
Yeah, you too. Proceed with caution.
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B
Yeah, that's it. Megan, I wasn't gonna say anything, but I've got to tell them. You know, we get here to Money in the bank, and Megan's looking at the ring mat, and she goes, cash App. What's that? And I go, you don't know what Cash app is? Megan is a new Mother. And you go, you have babysitters.
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A
Lots of babysitters. Yeah.
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B
You need to figure out a way she's paying the babysitters by a paper check. It's absurd. Running the atm, I mean, and it takes days to get it done. It's ridiculous. You gotta get Cash app. Cash App is safe. Cash App is secure. Cash App is fast. You get that money back right away. It is the easiest way to pay for anything, to send money to your friends, the people you owe money to. You have a lot of babysitters that are. I mean, they're younger. They don't know how to work checks. You gotta get Cash app right now. Send them the money that you owe them. And I think when you do it, when you use Cash App, they'll realize, like, oh, not only have you corrected.
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A
Your mistake, but I'm a cool mom.
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B
But you're a cool mom. And you've done it in a way that's gonna convenience them to the utmost. I mean, the thing about Cash App is they don't make you wait for your money. And that's what's important. You need your money right away, and Cash App makes it happen. I want to tell you guys that for a limited time, only new Cash App users, which is you, Megan, that is me, can use our exclusive code to earn some additional cash. I'm not kidding. Yes.
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A
For real sitters.
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B
No cash. All you have to do is download Cash App and sign up. Use our exclusive referral code, raw recap in your profile. Send $5 to a friend within 14 days and you'll get $10 dropped right into your account. Terms apply. That's money. That's Cash App. The world is full of tours.
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A
But.
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B
You don't choose a Toyota truck to follow the beaten path. You choose it to find the places in between the detours where each adventure pulls you toward the next. And wrong turns turn out right. So why would you ever take a tour when you could take a detour? Toyota trucks. Amazing. Having Naomi on fresh after winning the Money in the bank ladder match. And by the way, you can celebrate Naomi's victory if you're feeling great about it on a T shirt. The Naomi Money in the bank victory winners T shirt is available now at WWE shop. The Naomi Miss Money in the Bank 2025 T shirt. You can also get the shirt from the winner of the men's Money in the bank ladder match. That's Seth Rollins. Both of those winners T shirts are available now at WWE Shop as well as everything else from Money in the bank event merchandise. John Cena's farewell T shirt and hat and wristbands and socks. All the LA stuff that he wore tonight, you can get a WWE Shop. You can pick it up for yourself. You get it for a loved one. Listen, I'm just saying this in case my family's watching. Father's Day is coming up. If you want Father to be dressed well on Father's Day, maybe a little. Maybe a little men's money in the bank winner T shirt with a little John Cena socks on. I do love a pair of socks. Anyway, you get it all at WWE Shop. And it was really, I think, to me, with Naomi, it was really interesting feeling the vibe inside the Intuit Dome, which was people who are on board with this story of Naomi being the bad guy, also on board with the reality of what we were talking about last week, which is Naomi is doing the best work of her career. And there is something that goes back to what we were talking about earlier, about the fact, as I was talking to her about that we have. A lot of us that have been watching WWE forever have watched Naomi go on this journey, and her journey is an interesting one. It starts kind of at the bottom of wwe, goes up, she's out, she's back. She's got to reprove herself. And finally she's here. And I think that while in the immediate, people are like, yeah, well, we get that she's a rival of Jade Cargill, and there's good guys and bad guys and all this stuff. They also see the big picture, which is, as fans, this is another person who I think a lot of us said we want to see more from. We want to see her be in an opportunity where she can really achieve what she's capable of. And it felt like tonight was that.
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Well, I think when Naomi left and went to TNA and then returned at the Royal Rumble, I remember that reaction when her music hit. And it was just, you know, sometimes you don't realize what you have until it's gone. And when Naomi came back, we really. You've been listening to 80s rock all the time. Don't know what you got, but we really got.
- [36:03]
B
I can't keep singing because we don't have the rights, but.
- [36:05]
A
And you don't have a voice. But what you mean not.
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B
I have a singing voice.
- [36:10]
A
I mean, your voice is just hoarse.
- [36:12]
B
Okay. Okay.
- [36:13]
A
Put a lot of stress on the voice.
- [36:15]
B
So just rest the vocal cords, please.
- [36:18]
A
For all of our sakes. But Naomi is someone that I think when she returned at the Royal Rumble and had such a great performance. It's been so fun to watch her on this run in wwe. And you brought up in our interview how we've seen her in a tag team. And yes, she had a singles run as a smackdown women's champion, but we had.
- [36:41]
B
And she made the belt glow.
- [36:42]
A
Of course.
- [36:43]
B
Right?
- [36:43]
A
But she makes everything glow. But not anymore.
- [36:45]
B
Not anymore. She did previously make everything glow. There was a point in which she had made everything glow.
- [36:51]
A
Glowed. Glowed.
- [36:53]
B
Things glue. Glue. Glue is right.
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A
Okay.
- [36:56]
B
They glue.
- [36:57]
A
They glue.
- [36:57]
B
At one point, things around Naomi glue, however.
- [37:02]
A
That's so wrong.
- [37:03]
B
No, that's 100% right.
- [37:04]
A
However, now it's totally different. Proceeding with caution. And I just love this, like, sadistic side of Naomi. Like this evil. I mean, she just. The laugh says it all.
- [37:17]
B
I was pretty psyched that she got my Eddie Brock venom reference.
- [37:20]
A
That was great. But she talked about all the women leveling up. Yeah, she's included in that.
- [37:26]
B
Copyright 100%. And that's really what you have to do on a roster regarding male, female, whatever. In any sport, too. When you have a locker room and you're the person, but younger, hungrier people start coming in. If you don't match their appetite, if you don't grow with them, you're gonna get passed over.
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A
Yeah, it's not. Step aside. Here comes the new generation.
- [37:50]
B
No, it's like I'm.
- [37:51]
A
Let's reinvent.
- [37:52]
B
Right? Here comes the new generation. Except one thing. I'm not done yet.
- [37:56]
A
That's right.
- [37:56]
B
They can come in all they want, but I'm not done yet.
- [37:59]
A
And Naomi, five times in the Money in the bank ladder match. She knew. Can't go over five.
- [38:05]
B
No, no, that'd be tough.
- [38:06]
A
But I mean, at the same time, you look at this division, that's a tough match to win. I don't know if the Naomi who Glue could win a match like this.
- [38:16]
B
Well, she couldn't, right? She was in them. No, but this one who Glues no more. She was able to.
- [38:25]
A
Lost the glow. How would we say that?
- [38:27]
B
Lost the glow.
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A
We're struggling with tenses here.
- [38:29]
B
No, no, no, no, no. I think we're nailing it, actually kind of knocking it out of the park. The women's money in the bank ladder match. I thought fabulous match. Kind of an amazing way. It was an amazing way to open the show for us, but not for anybody that had to follow it because it was great. I mean, it was fast paced, it was brutal. It was like action, action, action. I mean, you go back to the beginning of the show. And you talk about Axe. There was this moment I remember in the beginning of the match, and it was, like, several minutes in, and I was like, I wonder why I haven't seen more of Naomi. Is this. I hope it's not like, oh, don't worry about it. Like, forget about Naomi. Concentrate on who's in the ring. But the reality is, it was because we're building. That's happening later. Right now, we're gonna do this. And I thought, like, when you think about it, part of that generational divide that we were talking about means that Julia, Stephanie Vacair, Roxanne Perez, they've never been in Money in the bank ladder matches. They've never been in WWE ladder matches at all, you know, not on this level, not on the main roster. And so this idea that this is how they're being introduced to it on the largest stage when WWE is at the place where it's at is massive. But I thought. I mean, I thought they all delivered. I loved the. And one of the reasons why I love the Money in the bank ladder match is the interactions that you get. I loved all the interactions. I feel like there was this kind of through line of Julia and Rhea Ripley as well as Stephanie Vacair and.
- [40:08]
A
Rhea Ripley, and there was something going on between Alexa Bliss and Rhea Ripley. The match started with that eye contact. There was another moment later on in the match where we had it as well.
- [40:19]
B
Yup, we got the moment. And I'm sitting there going, like, at this stage in the match, this is usually the moment where Rhea grabs control. You kind of feel the flow of what's going on. And that's how it felt when Stephanie Vaccara and Rhea Ripley got their hands on each other. And then when it looked like it might be some kind of powerbomb scenario or whatever, Stephanie was up on Rhea's shoulders, and they start going to the ladder. I said, megan, they're gonna do it on the ladder.
- [40:52]
A
And I go. And then I said, sam, does that move have a name?
- [40:58]
B
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I said, that's the Devil's Kiss. But, you know. Cause you said, I can't wait till she. Ah, ah, ah, ah. And I was like, what are you talking about?
- [41:07]
A
Oh, yeah, yeah.
- [41:09]
B
And I was like, she goes, I can't wait till she Booker T's her. And I go, huh. I've never seen Harlem Heat pull off a Devil's Kiss. And quite frankly, Stevie Radio might be better at it. We don't know.
- [41:20]
A
When you're talking about Stephanie Buckhair to anybody. You're like, I love that move she does. Oh, what's the move? Oh, it's the ah, ah, ah.
- [41:27]
B
Is my car alarm going off? Is that I sit on my keys? Um, yeah, but the fact that she.
- [41:34]
A
The Devil's Kiss.
- [41:35]
B
The Devil's Kiss.
- [41:36]
A
Devil's Kiss, also known as the ah, ah.
- [41:38]
B
It is known as that as well. Devil's Kiss on the ladder takes Rhea Ripley out. I mean, amazing. Unbelievable.
- [41:47]
A
Third match in 24 hours.
- [41:49]
B
Yes. She had just wrestled at Worlds Collide earlier in the day.
- [41:53]
A
Hey, Stephanie, we're gonna have you start money in the bank.
- [41:56]
B
The day before, she was two hours away wrestling in the six woman tag, which all of them were. But she also had that mix of when Worlds Collide pushed into the entire equation.
- [42:09]
A
She's a beast.
- [42:10]
B
Yeah, yeah. I thought the tension too, between. I like the interactions between Roxanne Perez and Julia because it was almost this thing of, like, I feel like these women coming up, the focus has really been on Stephanie Vicaire and Julia. These international women that are coming in, they have this mystique about them. They have this elaborate entrance. They have all this stuff. Roxanne Perez was in NXT for quite a while before Stephanie Vacair and Julia showed up.
- [42:45]
A
Some would say the greatest NXT women's champion of all time. Who I might.
- [42:51]
B
I better than Becky Lynch.
- [42:54]
A
All right, we're going to talk about.
- [42:55]
B
That's why I said who, because I knew, I knew, I knew I was going to get you. I got you.
- [42:59]
A
But Roxanne Perez, an unbelievable NXT women's champion.
- [43:02]
B
Well, point being, familiarity breeds contempt. Almost like there's this idea that, like, oh, look at these two. These are almost like the shiny new toys. Like, oh, this one from Japan, this one from Mexico. Like, they're coming in here, they're bringing this whole new style, they're bringing this whole new character, this flair. Oh, yeah. No, no, no. Roxanne Perez is great. I've been watching her. But look at these two. And I feel like when Roxanne Perez was going at. Was working with Julia and then going at it with Julia, there was almost this vibe of, like, Roxanne taking the moment for herself, being like, hey, hey, hey. There's a reason why people like Megan Morant call me the greatest NXT women's champion of all time. There's a reason why I stayed there and stayed at the top of the card the whole time.
- [43:47]
A
There's the reason why she's noticed the prodigy.
- [43:49]
B
Yes, yes, yes. So I liked that she had that display. I'm with you on Alexa Bliss and everything that she was doing in that match. I mean, it was like, again, the idea of. Then we said it about Naomi not being able to rest on your laurels. It's no longer enough to just say, hey, it's me, Alexa Bliss. Which is massive. And you heard that in the entrance, the minute her music plays, it's like there is this feeling of like, oh, my God, we're seeing Alexa Bliss. Oh, my God. Alexa Bliss is in this match. She's a massive star. And everything that she's accomplished goes right along with what she does. But at the same time, you can't enter the money in the bank ladder match with this stacked field and go, well, I'll be okay, cuz I'm just Alexa Bliss. And I'm so happy that Alexa Bliss walked in knowing that and took ownership of it and went, okay, if you guys are gonna go this hard, I'm gonna go harder.
- [44:50]
A
Yeah. And you know, she's away from WWE for two years, and that's a challenge for anybody, whether it's for injury or for whatever reason it may be. And you always wonder, you know, is the crowd still going to respond? Am I going to get the same reaction if I. By being Alexa Bliss or whoever it is? And to your point, the music hits, she gets the reaction at the rumble, she goes away for even longer, couple months, Alexa returns. And for me, when I see Alexa, it's. It's the nuances, it's the small things that she does. And just by looking at her, the way she makes her entrance, her facial expressions, she's a star.
- [45:32]
B
Yes, that's exactly right.
- [45:34]
A
It doesn't matter that she was gone for two years. She's a star.
- [45:37]
B
Yeah. Yeah. And the star power remains, if not actually grows. But I did feel like when the ring was empty and Naomi is climbing that ladder, I really do feel like we were like, oh, my God. This is the culmination, not of a storyline, but of all the years that Naomi has been putting in of her body of work. And Naomi's one of these wrestlers that has had fans for the entire time going, you're sleeping on Naomi. You're sleeping on Naomi. Why are you sleeping on Naomi? Stop sleeping on Naomi. That's what they say. And all those voices kind of followed her up the ladder. And that's why I thought it was so special when she kind of stopped and looked around, because she saw what we all saw when, you know, halfway up, oh, my God, there's no way she's gonna make it up and she's gonna get the briefcase. And now that she's got the briefcase, it's hard to believe that she's not gonna get the title as well.
- [46:41]
A
For me, everything changed with Naomi during the Bianca Belair, Jade Cargill Naomi storyline when Naomi cried in the ring. Yeah, Bianca, yes. And I said, oh my gosh, this emotion coming out of Naomi, I want more of it. And every week she levels up, every week she delivers. I cannot wait to see what she does with this money in the bank briefcase.
- [47:08]
B
Yeah. You know, a lot of these superstars that were in the money in the bank briefcase match on the women's side and the men's side are going to be part of Fanatics Fest in New York City at the Jacob Javits Center. That's going down in a couple weeks. At this point, June 20th through the 22nd at the Jacob Javits Center. Megan and I will be there. Confirmed. We were on a zoom the other day that confirmed it 100% we are going to be there. For the first time ever, they're doing Fanatics Games. This is going to be great. A select group of fans is going to step off the sidelines and into the spotlight and compete in high stakes multi event skills showdown. A high stakes multi event skills showdown live at Fanatics Fest is going to go down over the course of all three days. WWE Superstars Rhea Ripley, you know her from the Money bank ladder match. Cody Rhodes, you know him from the main event. And Liv Morgan, you know her, she was out here with Daddy Dom when he was teaching AAA lesson. We'll get into that. Will join the world's biggest athletes, celebrities and a few lucky fans who will compete in in eight fast paced challenges, each testing a different athletic skill. You know what's at stake?
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A
What's that?
- [48:26]
B
$2 million in prizes. $2 million in prizes, leaderboard glory and bragging rights that will last forever. Honestly, if you're smart with 2 million, that can last a long time too. But you're right, Bragging rights do last forever. This isn't just a game. It's the start of something legendary. Whether you're competing or just watching history unfold, you don't want to miss Fanatics Games. It's all part of Fanatics Fest. Now. The deadline to apply for fanatics games is June 9th at 11:59pm Eastern Time. So end of day June 9th, if you are hearing my voice or you are watching my face and it is not the end of the day, of June 9th. Go ahead and register now. You can submit your fan application and grab tickets to Fanatics Fest all on the Fanatics app. So download that Fanatics app today. Meghan. The men had, I mean, an absolutely brutal, an absolutely remarkable, an absolutely memorable, an absolutely action packed and a story filled, money in the bank ladder match all on their own for me. And look, people like Michael Cole like to take potshots at somebody like El Grande Americano. However grande. I mean, you know, people go, I think he's Chad Gable under a mask. I've never heard of this Grande American. They get lost in this conspiracy theory stuff and they forget for a second to just watch the match.
- [50:20]
A
I don't think it can be Chad Gable because I saw on the Internet, and everything you see on the Internet is true, because it's on the Internet.
- [50:26]
B
I've got the Internet.
- [50:27]
A
There was a picture of Chad Gable who has a tattoo by his neck, and there was a picture of Grande. No tattoo. No tattoo on Grande. So tell me, tell me how that works.
- [50:37]
B
I think it can't be Chad Gable because he had the Creeds, put the ladder there for Grande and then said, also tell me.
- [50:44]
A
But also LA traffic. I mean, you and I are here. We know how bad it is. It would literally be impossible.
- [50:50]
B
Literally. I don't know. One person that could get from Worlds collide to a money in the bank ladder match tonight. It would be literally impossible. And I think we'll leave.
- [50:57]
A
I mean, Stephanie vec.
- [50:59]
B
I think we're gonna leave it there.
- [51:00]
A
Okay, so.
- [51:03]
B
But he was unbelievable. The stuff this guy was doing. Obviously, he's watched his Chad Gable tapes. He did the ankle lock on top of the ladder. I thought it was the most amazing thing watching Grande climb up one ladder from the outside of the ring up to the post. Then while a ladder was leaning on the turnbuckle, push that ladder over so that it hit the ladder that was up with two superstars fighting for the briefcase. I think it might have been Andrade and somebody else. I'm not 100% sure because I was sort of shredded by Grande.
- [51:38]
A
I think it was Andrade and Penta.
- [51:42]
B
That makes. Yes, yes, 100% right. 100% right. Because then he uses that ladder that's tilted to like, almost bridge himself to go from the turnbuckle to the ladder. Now he's halfway up. He goes up there, knocks off Andrade, headbutts Penta off the ladder. I mean, it was. It was awesome.
- [51:59]
A
In a weekend that was really highlighted by Lucha Lucha wrestling. I mean, to have El Grande Americano at the front and center of it all. I think a lot of people are saying that he is the greatest luchador maybe ever.
- [52:15]
B
They said that in a package, so it had to be true. I don't know who produced it. Could have been Grande, I don't know. But also, I think. I don't know, maybe that might be part of the talent exchange. Right? Like, a lot of WWE guys were at Worlds Collide wrestling with AAA guys. Maybe AAA is like, we'll send over Grande Americano. I don't know. I haven't done all the research on that.
- [52:32]
A
But, I mean, in the short time that Grande's been in, WWE's been so impressive.
- [52:38]
B
Also, I don't know too many.
- [52:40]
A
I mean, in his performance in Money.
- [52:42]
B
Phoenix at WrestleMania, I don't know too many luchadors that could do German suplexes that could. No, you know, so. So that's pretty impressive, too. The fireball ladder, obviously, it was very effective. You know, they put it there. They found it. It was fantastic. I was talking about the crowd. The crowd, to me, got so loud sitting out there for this match and the guy that they were cheering for. And of course, part of it is geographical, but part of it is that he has captured imagination. Penta. I mean, every time that guy got near that briefcase, that building was unglued. It was so loud. I mean, it was amazing the support that the audience had for Penta.
- [53:28]
A
And how cool is that? The last time WWE was in this building, the Intuit Dome was the Netflix premiere.
- [53:34]
B
Good call.
- [53:35]
A
And Penta arrived at the Intuit Dome, and I feel like he's already grown so much. I mean, Sam, you've been following Penta's career for such a long time. Penta is somebody who's very new to me and to other WWE fans that maybe don't watch aaa, maybe haven't followed Lucha Underground. Lucha Underground. So I think to watch Penta, like, for me, he's grown, but he's just immediately grabbed the attention of the audience and he's ran with it.
- [54:06]
B
You know what it is about Penta? He has the same thing that AJ Styles has, which is. Or had. But aj, obviously, anybody who has it would had it, would still have it. But my point is, AJ Styles had this tremendous career outside of wwe, almost to the point where people were like, he's probably the best wrestler that will never go to wwe. Then he goes to wwe, and within months, he's a WWE Superstar. And that's how you know him. You know, because he's made such an impact so quickly in WWE that it doesn't discount everything else he's done, but he just feels to us, to the audience, like he belongs here. And I think that Penta shares that trait, that Penta, seven months after his debut, six months after his debut, feels like a WWE Superstar, feels like he belongs.
- [54:56]
A
I mean, you see him. You get it.
- [54:57]
B
Yes.
- [54:58]
A
And I mean, immediately from the entrance, in each and every match, it's just everybody's fallen more and more in love with Penta.
- [55:05]
B
He rules. He rules hard. But as all this was going on and Seth was having some trouble, of course, Seth's goons show up. And Penta's debut was the week after the Netflix premiere. It was promoted on the Netflix premiere. Is that right? Is that true? Yes. But it was promoted on the Netflix. That's right. Because there were all the vignettes playing.
- [55:27]
A
There's a lot going. I had Pregnancy Brain back then.
- [55:30]
B
You did. You did. And we had Pentafe regardless. Okay. And that hasn't gone away.
- [55:35]
A
We still have it.
- [55:36]
B
There's treatment for it, but there is not a cure. So Seth's goons come out. Here comes Bron Breakker. Here comes Bronson Reed. And they make, I mean, mincemeat of everybody else in this match. The Spears, that Braun Breaker was thrown around outside the ring. The Tsunamis that Bronson Reed was dropping in the ring, it was a little bit disappointing because it almost felt to.
- [56:01]
A
Me, we all went when they came out.
- [56:04]
B
But also, as a participant in that match, did you not think in a no Disqualification context that, like, they're probably going to show up, that Seth is probably going to use the numbers game? And I'm going like. I'm going like, this is bad, until. And I'm like, yeah, I lost my mind.
- [56:29]
A
The United States Champion is here to save us, Right?
- [56:31]
B
Here comes JC Mateo. Here comes the United States Champion. And we see the showdown that started on smackdown. And so many ramifications, by the way, that we didn't even factor in when that showdown first happens, with Seth Rollins sitting with Paul Heyman, to a degree, the remnants of Roman Reigns bloodline. Looking face to face with Solo Sikoa, Jacob Fatu and J.C. mateo, to a degree, the remnants of Roman Reigns bloodline. And you're going. I mean, everything is so cosmically intertwined. It's so much fun. But to see this happen and you look at these beasts and you go, yes, this is the matchup that I want to see. Jacob and JC Mateo staring down with Bron Breaker and Bronson Reed, and they split up and everything. And at first, Seth's guys have it under control to the point where Braun Breaker spears JC Mateo through the the barricade.
- [57:31]
A
He's a big guy, jc. Yes.
- [57:34]
B
Big guy. Yes. Yeah, I mean, all muscle, too. Just.
- [57:38]
A
Just a unit.
- [57:39]
B
Yes.
- [57:40]
A
A tank.
- [57:40]
B
Yes. Yes. But the tank went through, and that's, I think, why Braun Breaker was like, bro, that I'm out. And then Bronson Reed is taking advantage in the ring until Jacob Fatu goes full Jacob Fatoumata because he forgot. Jacob Fatu is all gas, no brakes. You got what I mean?
- [57:58]
A
Got what I mean?
- [57:59]
B
Okay, so Jacob Fatu is able to put Solo Sikoa in the exact place that Solo needs to be, which Solo.
- [58:08]
A
All throughout the match, you're just like, ugh, he's such a punk.
- [58:12]
B
What are you talking about? He's got swag.
- [58:14]
A
Yes. But in such an annoying way. He's imitating Penta.
- [58:19]
B
She said I'm a punk. She said I'm a punk. Like that.
- [58:22]
A
Exactly.
- [58:23]
B
Like. That's cool.
- [58:25]
A
Yes, exactly. You're doing Pentas Sierra Miedo, but with Solo space for all those people who aren't watching and listening. I mean, it was wonderful. But you go, Cierra Miedo.
- [58:36]
B
Okay. Okay. I think it's great. I think it's great. I would watch, like, if they took, like, Bill Maher off of Real Time or whatever that show is called and put Solo in there instead. And he was just being that kind of, like, smarmy, like, guy. I would watch that every single night. I think Solo would do great at that. I mean, I think he's so sweet, and he's a red velvet blazer on. You hear what he said this week? You hear what he said this week? I think it'd be great. I think he's got. He's a very talented guy, Solo Sikoa.
- [59:05]
A
He is. He's slimy, gets under people's skin.
- [59:10]
B
People have said that about me too, and I don't understand it either. So maybe that's why I like Solo so much. But. But Jacob sets the stage for him. He's like, don't worry. Ring is cleared. He gets him a ladder. Solo goes, no, no. I want the big one. Gets in the second ladder, opens up the big ladder. Solo is on his way up, taking his time. He's got a strut about it, too.
- [59:31]
A
Yeah.
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B
Because Jacob is guarding that ladder like.
- [59:35]
A
A guard, and he's the Samoan werewolf who's gonna mess with him.
- [59:38]
B
That's Right. Like a German.
- [59:39]
A
And we just saw the mood salt.
- [59:41]
B
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, we did. And so all of a sudden, Jacob looks up at Solo and grabs that ankle. And I swear, I mean, maybe my favorite moment of that match was Solo not understanding why he couldn't reach up and not understanding why his leg was immobile, and then looking down and realizing there's a giant Samoan werewolf hand gripping his ankle and stopping him from moving anywhere. And Jacob just looks at him and shakes his head and he tells Solo that he hates him. And I said, and you know what? It was one step too far. Remember when. Remember last on smackdown? What did Solo say? He said, because he's all gas, no brains. And Jacob heard it. And you're right. It gets under people's skin, especially when it's about you.
- [60:36]
A
Yeah.
- [60:36]
B
And you know what? Solo was taking Jacob for granted.
- [60:39]
A
Well, look, Jacob, for months and months and months, he did everything for Solo. He protected Solo.
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C
Solo.
- [60:50]
A
That's how it started.
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C
Right?
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B
And I'm kind of mixed feelings about letting that go, by the way. I mean, I love you, Solo. That was my life philosophy for months.
- [60:59]
A
It was such a great time in our lives.
- [61:02]
B
It really was. Luckily, we have all gas, no brakes. You know what I mean? There's more.
- [61:06]
A
You know, I just loved when Jacob would enter behind Solo with his hands together and the way he said with passion, I love you.
- [61:18]
B
Can you imagine? I love what you do with that rolly voice, too. I think that's great.
- [61:21]
A
Thank you.
- [61:22]
B
Yeah, I think that's awesome. I love that. I love that you put a little stank on it, and I appreciate it. Thank you. But I just can't imagine having all that and blowing it. Having that kind of unconditional love and support and just absolutely blowing it. And he did. And Jacob says, it ain't happening. Jacob takes him out of the match. It has happened. It's no more like, oh, there's tension here. It's done.
- [61:47]
A
And it leaves us, you know, back to what we were saying at the beginning. What happens next?
- [61:52]
B
I'll tell you what happens next. All guests, no breaks. Jacob Fatu. But Jacob Fatou is now going to have to play. Because in my head, I'm going, like. Like, literally on Friday, I was going, imagine if J.C. mateo. I was talking to myself. Imagine if J.C. it's my best friend. Imagine if J.C. it's my only friend. Imagine if J.C mateo and solo Sikoa and Jacob Fatu start to get along. And then Jimmy is like, oh, actually, you guys are pretty cool. And then they can rebuild the bloodline.
- [62:18]
A
You're such an optimist.
- [62:19]
B
I started thinking in my head, I legit.
- [62:23]
A
Dreams crushed.
- [62:24]
B
That's not gonna happen. And I can't imagine Jimmy would wanna join his brother Solo now. Although, do you think Jimmy's gonna wanna. Do you think there's anything inherent in Jimmy USO that's wanna be like, look, I don't like Solo, but he's literally my little brother. I can't let Jacob, like, destroy him.
- [62:40]
A
There has to be. There's something to be said about that. Sharing the blood. I mean, it's different when it's your sibling opposed to your cousin.
- [62:46]
B
Like, what if Rikishi calls up Jimmy and goes, like, you can't let Jacob take out your little brother, dude, you have to listen.
- [62:52]
A
Right?
- [62:52]
B
That's Pops. That's Pops.
- [62:55]
A
Yeah.
- [62:56]
B
It's gonna get very good.
- [62:57]
A
Although Solo did take out Jimmy.
- [62:59]
B
So that's the little brother taking out the big brother. That's different. Little brothers are brats. Big brothers are like big brother Jim. Exactly. But then on the other side of things, that's Smackdown. Monday Night Raw. While all this is going on, by the way, Seth Rollins just got the Money in the bank briefcase. By the way, where was CM Punk? Where? It was very interesting to me. CM Punk, Sami Zayn, Jey uso, nowhere to be found. Jey uso had other things to worry about. Sami Zayn, CM Punk, nowhere to be found. Maybe they said we want to let the match play out the way the match is going to play out, but it played out with Seth Rollins having the Money in the bank briefcase. And I mean, I would say it's a guarantee he's going to be the World Heavyweight Champion or the WWE Champion, whichever one he goes for. Nobody knows how to utilize that briefcase historically like Seth Rollins.
- [63:47]
A
I mean, at the heist of the century.
- [63:49]
B
Yeah, it's the best cash in of all time.
- [63:52]
A
He's going to successfully cash in. It's just a matter of when.
- [63:57]
B
Wow. And we'll see when. I mean, we got a huge Monday Night Raw coming up. Of course, we've got. Not only do we have Nikki Bella returning.
- [64:06]
A
Well, I think this is kind of interesting that you just didn't want to talk about Becky becoming a Women's Internet Continental Champion.
- [64:12]
B
I mean, we will. I think Lyra Valkyria won the night, but we will. And Nikki Bella's returning on Raw. And we got Jay USO versus Gunther. And now we are in that space. We're both in the women's division. And the men's division, when we talk about title matches, every conversation is going to be. And don't forget who's got the briefcase. And don't forget who's got the briefcase. It happens every single time, I promise you. We are about to talk about Becky lynch because she had a giant moment and who knows, maybe that moment will be immortalized on a Tops now card. If we get a Becky Lynch Tops now card, you gonna go for it?
- [64:50]
A
Of course.
- [64:51]
B
Cuz you might get who knows what kind of parallels that they'll make, but they always make parallels. So ahead of Money in the Bank, Topps put out a Topps now card. That was the Money in the bank poster with John Cena on it, which I think you can get if you're listening now, you can get it until Sunday, June 8th at 3pm Eastern. So if you're listening when this first came out, you got a couple hours, but I don't know. There are going to be more Tops now cards. Based on some of the events that happened. Naomi and Seth Rollins, we're finding out they're going to be immortalized in Tops now cards. I'm getting this right now. Topps will immortalize tonight's men's and women's Money in the bank ladder match winners, Naomi and Seth Rollins with their own Tops now cards. As always, lucky fans who order these cards may receive rare serial numbered parallels, maybe autographed editions. You get a red out of 10, you get a color match out of five. You get a gold out of 50, orange out of 25. There are so many different parallels that can be made. But I mean, these, these, that's always the Chase. That's why some of us might end up ordering more than one card. Hoping that you get that Chase version. Stay tuned to the Raw recap podcast this Tuesday. This Tuesday for all Tops Now Money in the bank card info and possibly images. Hopefully we'll get them. But of course stay locked in to at tops on social and tops.com for the official drops. And tops.com is also, you know, where you go for if you want to get the Money in the bank poster card if you want to see what's coming out or get those Money in the bank winner cards right away. And of course we did have not one, but two Intercontinental Championship matches. We had Dominik Mysterio successfully defending the Intercontinental Championship against Octagon Junior.
- [66:49]
A
A busy day for Dom from aaa.
- [66:51]
B
Dom just shows up to Worlds Collide, which was a fabulous event. If you haven't seen it, it's on YouTube. If you're watching this podcast on YouTube, same channel, WWE, you can check out Worlds Collide. But, I mean, Dom made a statement. Not only did he beat Octagon Jr. But he rubbed it right in the face of Psycho, Clown of the Kingo, everybody. That was at ringside, Wagner. They were all there.
- [67:17]
A
I was kind of surprised to see Dom defend the Intercontinental title.
- [67:20]
B
Because you're a hater.
- [67:22]
A
I mean, he just hasn't really.
- [67:23]
B
And Michael Cole's a hater, too. How come the story can't be. Not only did he defend it, he defended it dominantly. He showed off sweet Lucha skills and WWE professional wrestling skills. Dominic defended the title successfully and dominated most of the match. And you're over here saying, I've got some negative to say.
- [67:44]
A
I just haven't really seen Dominic around, you know, looking to defend the title. This is the interconnection. That's what champions do.
- [67:50]
B
They look to defend titles.
- [67:52]
A
Well, I mean, the Intercontinental title is the workhorse title, and he hasn't exactly been a workhorse. And he hasn't even been out there to help support.
- [67:58]
B
He hasn't been a workhorse. He did two shows today.
- [68:01]
A
He never.
- [68:02]
B
You said that was impossible.
- [68:04]
A
Yeah, there's no way. Louisiana. Traffic is pretty bad, so it would be difficult. Grande.
- [68:10]
B
I'm not reading about Grande. We're talking about Dominic.
- [68:12]
A
Well, I was just. Anyways, Dominic hasn't exactly been a fighting champion, so I was surprised how many times you want this guy to defend the title, defender the title. And it was interesting to see Liv Morgan by his side as well.
- [68:25]
B
Why is that interesting?
- [68:26]
A
Well, because Dom hasn't been.
- [68:28]
B
You wouldn't say this in front of Liv.
- [68:29]
A
By his side to help Liv.
- [68:31]
B
She explained it. You wouldn't. She told him not to. She told us on my. Don't you listen to your own pod. She told us.
- [68:38]
A
I mean, it doesn't matter. Oh. Oh, honey. You stay back. No, I want to be there to help you.
- [68:43]
B
No, no. Sometimes you have to let people be independent people.
- [68:47]
A
You're just gonna let your girl go out there and not have her back?
- [68:52]
B
Well, of course. She's Liv Morgan, okay? She's a very accomplished human being. And she explained the whole thing to you. You wouldn't say this to her face.
- [68:59]
A
I'm not.
- [68:59]
B
You'd buckle. No, you'd buckle. That's what you do. You buckle. Buckler. Meghan Morant is what they call you.
- [69:06]
A
I just think that really, Dom should be out there to support. Liv was there for dumb.
- [69:11]
B
Okay, let's see. Okay.
- [69:12]
A
Liv was there for Dom.
- [69:13]
B
Let's see. Becky lynch is next, right? She's going to defend the Intercontinental championship, what, twice a week? You think?
- [69:19]
A
Maybe.
- [69:20]
B
You think she should?
- [69:21]
A
Sure.
- [69:21]
B
And if she doesn't, you'll be outraged.
- [69:23]
A
She's the greatest. The greatest Intercontinental champion ever. Already? Already?
- [69:31]
B
How?
- [69:32]
A
Because she's Becky Lynch.
- [69:33]
B
She won it by pulling the champions tights.
- [69:35]
A
I mean, this is. She did what she had to do to win. She used veteran moves.
- [69:39]
B
And I don't have literally against the rules.
- [69:42]
A
It's veteran. A veteran move.
- [69:44]
B
It's cheating. You think veterans cheat?
- [69:47]
A
I think you learn from your experience and then you find a way to take advantage of a situation. And that's what we saw Becky do tonight.
- [69:53]
B
Well, then how come she ended up slammed on the mat by the time she left? She shouldn't.
- [69:57]
A
I think that Lyra Valkyria should be showing a lot more respect to Becky lynch because Becky lynch is a WrestleMania main eventer.
- [70:03]
B
You think it was classless?
- [70:04]
A
Yeah.
- [70:05]
B
Wow.
- [70:05]
A
I mean, it was classless from the beginning because Lyra Valkyria didn't even allow Alicia Taylor to finish her ring announcements.
- [70:12]
B
She came out with them wangs, though.
- [70:14]
A
She did.
- [70:15]
B
She got them wangs out.
- [70:16]
A
Even she had the WrestleMania wangs.
- [70:18]
B
She got them wangs out for that one.
- [70:20]
A
She did. I mean, not only the wangs in the entrance, but the wang of a fist.
- [70:25]
B
That's right.
- [70:26]
A
During Alicia Taylor's announcement, Becky lynch came.
- [70:28]
B
Out ready for a street fight. She was not in typical wrestling attire.
- [70:31]
A
Love those pants.
- [70:32]
B
She came out for a straight street fight. And look, she was successful. She did everything she had to do. All due credit to Becky Lynch. I think that you will be proven to be a hypocrite. You will not treat Becky the way you treat Dominic with such disdain, dishonor, and honestly, a lack of professionalism you won't do. Yes, me.
- [70:56]
A
A lack professionalism.
- [70:57]
B
I don't think you come off as a professional when you're talking about Dominic.
- [71:00]
A
Well, I don't think you come off as a professional when you talk about Dominic.
- [71:04]
B
What are you talking about? I'm less professional broadcaster. I say it all.
- [71:08]
A
You've supported Dominic through some pretty rocky times that were questionable.
- [71:13]
B
He's the intercontinental champion. Obviously.
- [71:15]
A
I was right.
- [71:16]
B
Yeah, I was right.
- [71:17]
A
Okay, well, Becky's the intercontinental champion. She's back wearing gold. All feels right in wwe. R truth is back English is a champion. All feels right.
- [71:27]
B
Because you said when Becky lost, except then she jumped Lyra after the match. You were like, technically it's fine because Becky won the night.
- [71:34]
A
Yeah, she did.
- [71:35]
B
So then Lyra won the night tonight.
- [71:37]
A
No, it's different.
- [71:39]
B
Go ahead.
- [71:39]
A
It's different. I mean, Becky's not going to the hospital. Lyra went to the hospital when she lost night. She's not at the hospital. I saw her at the press conference.
- [71:46]
B
Oh, all right. Actually, that's pretty. Pretty rock solid.
- [71:50]
A
She's a champion and she's not in the hospital.
- [71:52]
B
I didn't realize when Becky won the.
- [71:54]
A
Night, she sent Lyra to the hospital with, I quote, her weird fiance while Becky went home with her hot husband.
- [72:04]
B
Who are you quoting there?
- [72:05]
A
Becky Lynch.
- [72:05]
B
Okay. All right, well, great, great. You know, we started this on social.
- [72:09]
A
I didn't call Lyra's fiance weird. Becky did. I just repeated it.
- [72:14]
B
Right. So it's like you miss 100% of the shots you don't take. Dash Wayne Gretzky. Dash Michael Scott. Dash Becky Lynch. Dash Megan Moran.
- [72:23]
A
That's. That's exactly right. You know, I was thinking it's like, so great in wrestling when the fans, like, when we all feel like we're a part of it, when we all get what we want, like, seeing Becky lynch as a champion. And, you know, I go back to the road to WrestleMania 40, and what was so cool about that was like, the we want Cody. Right. Like, we all felt a part of it, and we all felt sort of, you know, we were along the ride to that main event. And this past week, what did we hear all throughout arenas?
- [72:51]
B
We want Becky.
- [72:51]
A
No, we heard. We want truth.
- [72:53]
B
Oh.
- [72:53]
A
And. And to feel like our voices are heard feels really good, especially when you.
- [73:02]
B
Got a podcast like this. I'm glad you're all hearing our voices.
- [73:05]
A
Yeah.
- [73:05]
B
You know what I'm saying? Yeah.
- [73:07]
A
Yeah.
- [73:08]
B
No, you're 100% right.
- [73:09]
A
No, it feels good.
- [73:09]
B
100% right. To feel like. Yeah, like it. Like we're not yelling into a void.
- [73:16]
A
People are listening.
- [73:17]
B
Yes.
- [73:17]
A
Because as fans, we get to. That's. What's one of the things that's so great about wrestling, is we play a significant role in what's going on.
- [73:26]
B
100%. Absolutely. And you guys can continue to play a significant role in what's going on by subscribing to this podcast. Everywhere you get audio, Apple, Spotify, all those great spots. You can also watch us every time we drop a podcast on the WWE's YouTube channel. Of course, we will be back after Monday Night Raw this Monday when we find out who the World Heavyweight champion is. Is it Jey USO is it. Gunther. Is Eric cash in? What's Nikki Bella doing back? Who knows who else is going to show up at the Raw after money in the bank. But we will be there to recap it. Thank you. Mega Morant.
- [74:06]
A
Are we good? I feel like we ended a little rocky.
- [74:10]
B
Don't ask. We'll see in a couple days.