Seth Rollins is a Paul Heyman guy?: WrestleMania Recap

Summary

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Raw Recap with Sam Roberts & Megan Morant — WrestleMania Night One (April 20, 2025)

Episode Overview

This lively episode of “Raw Recap” is dedicated to WrestleMania Night One, dissecting the major title changes, emotional betrayals, and standout performances that defined the evening. Sam Roberts and Megan Morant offer firsthand insights from the arena, interview newly crowned champions, and grapple with the huge implications of Paul Heyman’s shocking turn on Roman Reigns. The episode features direct backstage interviews with Jey Uso and The New Day while exploring narrative shifts and what’s to come for WWE’s top Superstars.

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Main Event Breakdown: Seth Rollins, Paul Heyman, and Roman Reigns

The Heyman Betrayal

• The main conversation centers around Paul Heyman's stunning betrayal of Roman Reigns in the WrestleMania Night One main event: Seth Rollins vs. Roman Reigns vs. CM Punk (Triple Threat for the soul of WWE).
• Sam is deeply emotional about Heyman's actions, stunned by his turn:
  • “The wise man Paul Heyman has turned his back on the tribal chief, Roman Reigns… Why?” (00:40-01:56)
• Megan connects this to Heyman’s pattern as a survivor, referencing Heyman’s past betrayal of CM Punk.
  • "Everybody who’s been on Roman's side has betrayed him at one point or another... Paul Heyman is a survivor." (03:36–04:43)
• Discussion about the logic behind Heyman's move: Was this simply aligning with the winner, or is there something deeper?
• The dueling perspectives of Rollins and Roman:
  • Sam: “Roman’s point of view was… there were stars like me. Like the tribal chief, Roman took ownership of the deals WWE has been making.” (05:27–06:25)
  • Megan: “Workhorses like Seth freakin' Rollins… what they have done to pay it forward… is that what’s best for business?” (06:41–06:59)

Layered Emotions & Industry Shifts

• Both hosts reflect on the emotional impacts:
  • Sam: “We make a sad face and go, oh, poor Roman. When his reign was kind of a reign of terror.” (11:40–11:51)
  • Megan: “Roman did give this all to us. But CM Punk is correct, and Seth Rollins is correct as well.” (12:15–12:22)
• The implication is that the foundation of WWE is shifting — not just in championships but in narrative and loyalty.

Notable Quotes

• Sam: “Everyone turns on Roman Reigns… Why would the wise man turn on the tribal chief?” (00:40–01:56)
• Megan: “If this match was significant as it was described for the soul of WWE… What does that tell you about what Paul Heyman thinks of Seth Rollins?” (04:48–05:00)
• Sam: “What’s the reason why? I mean, Roman Reigns stated his purpose… They all viewed the industry from a different perspective.” (05:27–06:25)
• Megan: “Paul Heyman is someone who does what is best for business.” (06:41–06:59)

Timestamps

• Paul Heyman betrayal & analysis: 00:40–09:26
• Impact on Rollins, Punk, Reigns: 09:26–13:12

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Jey Uso: New World Heavyweight Champion

Backstage Exclusive Interview (~19:14–27:22)

• Emotional and Physical Toll:
  • Jey Uso describes his physical pain post-match and the surreal reality of holding the championship:
    • “I can’t even feel my chest right now… but I’m happy though. I got the damn gold plate on my chest.” (20:07–20:28)
  • Shares that he had to be “Joshua Fatu” to win, but now returns to “Yeet Master” energy.
• Journey to WrestleMania:
  • Unable to reflect fully, wanting to stay present and celebrate with his family and friends.
  • Calls out the importance of perseverance and blocking out doubters:
    • “Pick and choose which people to listen to… Just believe in yourself, man, and do what works for you.” (26:39–27:22)
  • Addresses his relationship with his brother Jimmy and father Rikishi — emotional highlights about family seeing his victory.
    • “Love my brother… Stop comparing me to my brother. Because we together.” (25:05–25:27)
    • “Somebody better take [Rikishi’s] phone… He’s my dad.” (25:34–26:14)
• Crowd Connection:
  • Jey talks about realizing the crowd was with him:
    • “I heard them when I was hitting them splashes… That’s what makes our fan base so special.” (23:41)
• Reflection:
  • Jey is grateful for doubters and supporters alike and stresses the storytelling power of wrestling.

Timestamps

• Jey’s interview begins: 19:14
• Jey on family & legacy: 24:43–26:14
• Advice to young Jey: 26:39

Notable Quotes

• Jey Uso: “I wasn't going out there as Jey Uso. I was going out there as Joshua Fatu the whole night.” (20:40–21:07)
• Jey Uso: “Pick and choose which people to listen to… Believe in yourself.” (26:39–27:22)

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Other Major Results and Takeaways

United States Championship: Jacob Fatu’s Arrival

• Jacob Fatu wins the United States Title; Solo supports him ringside.
• Recognized as a force: “At one point was not deemed fit for society, is now the United States Champion of WWE.” (37:01–38:04)
• Megan & Sam marvel at his unprecedented athleticism and dominance.
  • Megan: “Everybody should fear Jacob Fatu. Everyone.” (38:52–38:55)
  • Sam: “Winning a championship at WrestleMania is massive… now you are the representative.” (37:17–38:04)

Women’s Division: Tiffany Stratton Retains & Jade Cargill Shines

• Tiffany Stratton’s victory over Charlotte after a personal build:
  • Megan: “She left WWE and things have changed.” (42:04–42:06)
• Sam: “This women's division is as competitive as it's ever been.” (42:15–42:28)
• Jade Cargill defeats Naomi, impressing with pure athleticism:
  • Megan: “Her strength was on full display… I put Jade Cargill in that conversation [of best athletes].” (45:13–45:29)

Lucha Libre Influence: El Grande Americano & Vikingo’s Presence

• El Grande Americano (possible Chad Gable alter ego) defeats Rey Fenix, with heavy hints and comic denials from Sam and Megan (43:21–44:35).
• Vikingo gets directly involved at ringside.

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The New Day: New World Tag Team Champions (49:50–70:53)

Backstage Chaos & Philosophy

• Woods and Kofi confront Sam and Megan for “low energy” and disrespect, demanding acknowledgment for their accomplishments.
  • Woods: “You call the tag team champions on your show as guests… and you do me the dishonor of not even having a legit mic here. What is this, bro?” (49:50–50:18)
  • Kofi: “Do you know how many times Ric Flair has been world champion?... In the tag team division, do you know who has the most title reigns?... It's the New Day.” (51:38–52:10)
• They refute claims that they turned on Big E, blaming him for leaving the group and feeling unfairly vilified.
  • Kofi: “He [Big E] left us. He got hurt… and eventually you heal up… [but] he chooses not to come.” (54:22–55:13)
• Fires back at the crowd and critics for negative energy, claiming the negativity originated externally.
  • Woods: “We are reflecting the negative energy that you guys presented. We didn’t come out with the negative energy.” (59:06–59:16)

The Tag Division & Legacy

• New Day boasts 13 WWE World Tag Team Championships, considering themselves the best ever and the standard for the division.
• Verbal jabs at Sam and Megan throughout—a playful but tense interview.
  • Woods: “Who’s asking good questions? Not Sam.” (65:23–65:26)
  • Kofi: “When the New Day has the tag team championships, the tag team championships are interesting. You know who the champions are. The other tag teams know that they can’t beat us for these.” (66:19–67:30)
• The origin of the “Not Sam” and Shetland pony jokes (becomes a recurring rib throughout).

Notable Quotes

• Woods: “We are the Van Gogh of tag team wrestling… We are objectively the greatest of all time, and y’all treat us like trash.” (50:30–52:35)
• Kofi: “If you don't like that, then that has nothing to do with me. That has – that’s a you problem.” (56:46–57:33)
• Kofi: “You bring the kids that you have that you don’t really want with the spouse you’re not really happy with... You come to see people who have made the correct decisions.” (63:06)
• Woods: “When you point that one finger at everybody else, you got four of them pointing back… Technically three, and a thumb.” (64:02)

Timestamps

• New Day interview starts: 49:50
• Big E discussion: 54:19–55:30
• Tag division legacy: 66:19–67:30

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Memorable Entrances and WrestleMania Moments

• Megan highlights CM Punk’s entrance, a recreation of his first-ever WWE promo, and the use of Living Colour on stage. (71:50–72:57)
• Sam discusses the visual spectacle of the event, including Roman’s new attire symbolism and Seth’s elaborate entrance gear.

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Looking Ahead & Final Thoughts

• Sam and Megan tease Night Two’s huge main event (Cody Rhodes vs. John Cena) and wonder about changing crowd dynamics, implications for WrestleMania’s future, and their own emotional investment.
  • Sam: “How do I come in here? What kind of energy do I have if, let's say, John Cena does ruin wrestling?” (74:27–74:54)
• Megan notes the significance of seeing John Cena as a heel in a WrestleMania main event for the first and possibly last time. (74:27–74:36)
• Episode closes with humorous callbacks to the New Day interview and Sam’s emotional recovery, setting the stage for the next night’s recap.

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Quick Reference Timestamps of Key Segments

• Heyman’s betrayal and Main Event analysis: 00:40–13:12
• Jey Uso interview (first reactions/new champ): 19:14–27:22
• Jacob Fatu/US Title: 36:36–39:45
• Women’s division (Tiffany, Jade): 40:41–45:29
• New Day interview (tag team revolution): 49:50–70:53
• CM Punk’s entrance/memorable moments: 71:50–72:57
• Night Two preview: 73:10–end

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Episode Tone and Style

• High-energy, irreverent, and filled with inside jokes (e.g., “Not Sam,” “Shetland pony,” “yeet”).
• Heavy focus on storytelling and emotional investment, blending kayfabe and real backstage insight.
• Lively exchanges with talent, particularly New Day, providing a direct line into both the competitive and personal stakes of WrestleMania.

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This episode is a must-listen for WWE fans eager for nuanced analysis, behind-the-scenes reactions, and memorable quotes from both hosts and Superstars in the immediate wake of one of WWE’s most shakeup-laden WrestleMania nights ever.

Transcript

[Sam Roberts]

David. Yes. Have you ever noticed that the way we use our phones is ironic? Phones are for connection, but we look.

[Woods]

At them more than we look at each other.

[Sam Roberts]

That's ironic. Griffin, it's like rain on your wedding day. Listen, that's ironic. So U.S. cellular created U.S. mode to help us reconnect, you and I.

[Woods]

That's right.

[Sam Roberts]

A phone company wanting people to use their phones, less ironic.

[Woods]

A phone company wanting people to use.

[Sam Roberts]

Their phones, less ironic.

[Woods]

But let's find US again with US.

[Sam Roberts]

Mode from US Cellular.

[Woods]

Visit us cellular.com/built for us to get started.

[Sam Roberts]

What are the other things that are ironic? The wise man Paul Heyman has turned his back on his tribal chief, Roman Reigns. We have the new World Heavyweight Champion, Jey USO on the show. We have the new World Tag Team Champions. The new day on the show. And the wise man Paul Heyman has turned his back on our tribal chief, Roman Reigns. Welcome to WrestleMania recap, night one, brought to you by fanatics. It is Wrestlemania. It. It is night one. It's WrestleMania Saturday. We saw it. We were speculating wildly. We knew it was gonna happen. Megan Morant, Sam Roberts, welcome in. WrestleMania Saturday closes with the Triple threat that Seth Rollins called the most important triple threat match in the history of the industry. One that would shape the foundation of what the future of the industry would.

[Megan Morant]

Be, would define the soul of wwe.

[Sam Roberts]

Megan, you understand there are. There's logic and then there's feelings. Last year at WrestleMania, I said I could see Cody Rhodes winning this match, but you were with me. As Roman Reigns walked down the aisle, I said, I'm not ready for this to end. And I agreed with you, of course, tonight. I mean, I knew there was a chance. Seth Rollins had dropped so many hints even on that promo on smackdown. Not a prediction. It's a spoiler. Best for business. I mean, all of this stuff. Seth Rollins was weaving in to everything that he was saying. The way he defined favors as choices. You choose to pay back a favor, that's a choice to go out there. And I go, yeah, maybe Seth's gonna win this match.

[Megan Morant]

Yeah.

[Sam Roberts]

Seth took command of the story, I felt, in the two weeks building up to WrestleMania, but to experience the match. And you and I got to go out into the stadium to watch this live with all the fans to witness this and to actually see, not hypothetically, not this could happen, but to actually look at Paul Heyman turning on Roman Reigns. And I've said this, everyone turns on Roman Reigns and they go, no, he was mean to this one. No he was mean to that one. Why? Why? Why would the wise man turn on the tribal chief? Why? He gave you life. Why?

[Megan Morant]

Everybody who has been on Roman's side has betrayed him at one point or another. But he also, Paul Heyman, betrayed his best friend, his best friend in the world, CM Punk. But if this match is significant though.

[Sam Roberts]

That'S a great point. Because when he low blowed CM Punk, maybe I deserved it.

[Megan Morant]

And the look on Roman's face was so.

[Sam Roberts]

He was elated. It was pure happiness. We all talk about the way Roman can express himself so well just using his face and it was like he was like a little kid who's. Whose parents decided not to leave him at the in that moment.

[Megan Morant]

I said, he loves his wise man.

[Sam Roberts]

He loves his wise man just as his wise man loves him. He said, the love is unconditional. And you're right, that's a bad thing to do, to turn on the man. Paul Heyman said, I will never be disloyal to my best friend and I will never be disloyal to my tribal chief. Now he, I'm sure has some kind of weirdo, twisted logic.

[Megan Morant]

Well, what did we say about Paul Heyman on this very show? We said that Paul Heyman is a survivor.

[Sam Roberts]

And whose side is Paul Heyman on?

[Megan Morant]

Whoever is winning the winner's side.

[Sam Roberts]

Yes, exactly.

[Megan Morant]

And if this match was as significant as it was described for the soul of WWE would shape the industry forever. What does that tell you about what Paul Heyman thinks of Seth Rollins?

[Sam Roberts]

Seth's great, but Roman Reigns is right there ready to win the match. I mean, it's one thing to say I'm on the side of the winners. It's another thing to manipulate the situation. So this person, after all the years that Roman Reigns had Paul Heyman with him in this bloodline, that then Paul Heyman would decide, well, Seth Rollins is the winner now, I do not understand it.

[Megan Morant]

I need to you talk about manipulation though. And Paul Heyman, I mean, he's a master at that himself.

[Sam Roberts]

For what? What's the reason why? I mean, Roman Reigns stated his purpose. Right? The argument was. And I thought that was what was so fascinating about this triple threat from the beginning was that they were all right. Yeah, Roman Reigns, CM Punk and Seth Rollins are all industry shifters. Every single one of them was right in their arguments. But they all viewed the industry from a different perspective. Perspective they all like. Seth's point was that what made this place successful was the fact that there were workhorses like him, whereas Roman's point of view was. Nah, there were stars like me. Like the tribal chief, Roman took ownership of the deals that WWE has been making. Roman, I would imagine if you asked him, would take ownership of the fact that Fanatics is a partner of this program thanks to Roman Reigns.

[Megan Morant]

Would you also say that's of course.

[Sam Roberts]

The tribal chief puts food on my table for my children every single night. But this idea that like, of course you need your workhorses, but Roman Reigns shifted everything. I just don't understand.

[Megan Morant]

But Paul Heyman is someone who does what is best for business. And you look at this industry and you look at the business and you look at the workhorses like Seth freakin Rollins. What they have done to pay it forward for the Superstars in the future, is that what's best for business?

[Sam Roberts]

What about what Roman Reigns has done? He's made this platform three times as big.

[Megan Morant]

But Paul Heyman made a choice.

[Sam Roberts]

I know he did. And that's what I want to know. Why? Now look, Roman Reigns, I don't know. We live in this world where storyline and reality kind of weaves in and out and you never know what's what. But remember last year when Roman Reigns was doing interviews right before WrestleMania and when Roman Reigns was putting out that documentary right before WrestleMania and it had a direct impact on WrestleMania, it became part of what was happening.

[Megan Morant]

Of course.

[Sam Roberts]

I mean, I don't know. Roman Reigns is out doing Vanity Fair interviews and stuff where he's saying maybe he doesn't have that many years left on his career. Maybe he's only going to wrestle for another year or two or three. Maybe that worries somebody like Paul Heyman. I have no idea.

[Megan Morant]

It certainly could. But I mean, I know we're getting to the betrayal of Paul Heyman and Roman Reigns, but what about the fact that Paul Heyman also betrayed CM Punk?

[Sam Roberts]

Well, I guess I don't feel as bad about that because I felt like Paul Heyman was betraying Roman Reigns by going with his old best buddy CM Punk.

[Megan Morant]

To be take that personally.

[Sam Roberts]

I took it personally. Yeah, I'm like Michael Jordan in the Last Dance. I'm watching Raw on an iPad and going. And I took that personally.

[Megan Morant]

But this was CM Punk's a pivotal moment in his career. This was the culmination of decades and decades of work. The one thing that CM Punk wanted to accomplish in his career was what to be in the main event of WrestleMania.

[Sam Roberts]

He did it.

[Megan Morant]

He wanted to do it with his very best friend by him side, Paul Heyman.

[Sam Roberts]

He did it. Wow. Paul Heyman said, I will walk you to the ring. Who walked CM Punk to the ring?

[Megan Morant]

Paul Heyman.

[Sam Roberts]

CM Punk said he wanted a main event. WrestleMania. Who was in the main event of WrestleMania?

[Megan Morant]

CM Punk.

[Sam Roberts]

So I don't understand what did CM Punk mean?

[Megan Morant]

But was it enough to just be there? Because I got the sense that it wasn't in this build to this match.

[Sam Roberts]

I don't know what you're saying. Like, all promises were kept.

[Megan Morant]

Factually, yes, they were kept, but he turned his. He also said, I'd never betray my best friend. And he did that.

[Sam Roberts]

What do you think that logic is going to be then? Because clearly you don't say things like that by mistake. Clearly, there's going to be some logic from Paul Heyman where he can explain. I'm sorry, I'm a little emotional. Where he can explain how siding with Seth Rollins is actually being loyal to CM Punk and Roman Reigns because they.

[Megan Morant]

Both love the industry. And being the soul of the industry is something that should lie in Seth Rollins hands. Listen, we just walked out of the arena and I have to admit, I was singing the song I was singing. Seth.

[Sam Roberts]

Yes. Honestly, I didn't want to walk back with you. No, I said now's the time.

[Megan Morant]

Please stop.

[Sam Roberts]

I get that it's catchy. Now's not the time.

[Megan Morant]

I was very happy for Seth.

[Sam Roberts]

What?

[Megan Morant]

Very happy.

[Sam Roberts]

Why?

[Megan Morant]

He's earned this.

[Sam Roberts]

What are you talking about? He had Paul Heyman turn on Roman Reigns and hit him with the steel. Cherry betrayed Roman Reigns multiple times.

[Megan Morant]

How many times did Roman have assistance in his title defenses during his reign? Oh. Oh, interesting.

[Sam Roberts]

Did you think that was a good thing?

[Megan Morant]

What?

[Sam Roberts]

That Roman did that? Did you think that was a good thing?

[Megan Morant]

I enjoyed his title reign. Yes.

[Sam Roberts]

Listen, there's no. Well, Roman Reigns deserved it. You reap what you sow because Paul Heyman was there helping Roman Reigns do all that. He can't be the one to go, well, you shouldn't have done that. You told me to. You were literally the wise man.

[Megan Morant]

How about the look on Roman's face when he didn't know what to do with Azula Fala?

[Sam Roberts]

I mean, I think it was such an interesting Roman. From the very start of this match. Roman Reigns comes out. Dun, dun, dun. And he comes out.

[Megan Morant]

And if you notice, it sounded like we practiced that. We definitely have.

[Sam Roberts]

I love that song.

[Megan Morant]

I know. It's great.

[Sam Roberts]

He's got no red on his attire whatsoever. He's got his red Ula Fala on, but he has no bloodline red that he's wearing. He's wearing all black and white. He's got the white glove on. He's got the white, white shoes wristband. Those were not just white shoes. Those, I believe were Concord Jordan 11 inspired wrestling boots, if we're just going to call it what it is, you know, and like I always say, everything counts. The fact that Roman walked into this with a completely different psychology, which is for the first time, you know, since the Big Dog era, I'm walking into a match alone. And that's why you're right. I was with you. I thought it was so significant when he took off the Ulafala and there was nobody to give it to. Now, it's very interesting that we feel sympathy. Look, you made sad face about that just now.

[Megan Morant]

Yeah.

[Sam Roberts]

But it's very interesting that we make a sad face and go, oh, poor Roman. When his reign was kind of a reign of terror.

[Megan Morant]

Without question was a reign of terror.

[Sam Roberts]

But then why do we want it to continue? Why deep in our cockles do we want it to keep going? Why do we feel bad when it seems like it's not gonna keep going? You know why? Because we know Roman gave this all to us. We know he did. You know he did. We know that that's what happened. So, you know, I'm shocked is all I'm saying.

[Megan Morant]

And I think Roman did give this all to us. But CM Punk is correct and Seth Rollins is correct as well.

[Sam Roberts]

Sure. I mean, it seems a little hedging your bets.

[Megan Morant]

We spent a lot of time talking about Roman Reigns and Paul Heyman, but Seth walked out of WrestleMania night one victorious. What do you think that means for the future of the Visionary?

[Sam Roberts]

Listen, I think that everything's changed after WrestleMania. I mean, and we'll go through the rest of the matches. Obviously, I think that there were a lot of matches on this card that it's like, it's big. The result is big. But what's even bigger is this. This feels. And I don't know how night two is going to feel. I'll let you know tomorrow when we do another WrestleMania recap. But this feels like much more of that season ending, slash beginning spirit of. I think how a lot of people look at WrestleMania that like a lot of the results led to, oh, now we're going in a completely different direction.

[Megan Morant]

I mean, almost every single title changed hands tonight at WrestleMania night one.

[Sam Roberts]

Except one.

[Megan Morant]

Yeah, except one.

[Sam Roberts]

Except one.

[Megan Morant]

Yeah.

[Sam Roberts]

So. So to that point, you know, I think that the triple threat match, the main event, is no different and might be the Most shining example of that, that Seth Rollins is a completely different entity as of right now. Paul Heyman is a completely different entity as of right now. Roman Reigns and CM Punk. I mean, does the enemy of my enemy become my friend's situation? Like Paul Heyman turned on CM Punk, Roman Reigns was happy about that. But then Paul Heyman turned on Roman Reigns. Both of them have a grudge with Paul Heyman. However, they kind of have a grudge with each other as well. So is this a scenario where both CM Punk and Roman Reigns are coming after Seth Rollins? Is this a scenario where the two of them are fighting each other to find out who gets to Seth Rollins first? I mean, Bubba Ray Dudley warned me that this might be a Empire Strikes Back scenario, that we may be in for a sad ending going into WrestleMania.

[Megan Morant]

And look, that's what we got.

[Sam Roberts]

For some smart guy. We mean for some.

[Megan Morant]

I am looking the bad guy 1. I am looking forward to seeing what happens next and where Seth Rollins takes us and what happens. I don't dislike Seth Rollins. I don't know what. What's all the hate towards Seth Rollins.

[Sam Roberts]

Is because what he just did to Roman Reigns again.

[Megan Morant]

But what he did. Carrying the industry.

[Sam Roberts]

Stop at the.

[Woods]

Carrying the industry.

[Sam Roberts]

You're just. He's a workhorse buying whatever he's selling.

[Megan Morant]

I. Yeah, I am right now.

[Sam Roberts]

And you like that.

[Megan Morant]

And you buy whatever the tribal chief sells.

[Sam Roberts]

So that's good evidence to back it up. And you know, it's true as well.

[Megan Morant]

Seth has evidence as well.

[Sam Roberts]

Yeah, sure, sure, sure, sure.

[Megan Morant]

And he cut two of the best promos we've ever heard. Last two RAWs leading into WrestleMania.

[Sam Roberts]

I just realized as we're talking. Because you're right. I mean, I'm talking out of my feelings right now. I'm emotional.

[Megan Morant]

You're going through it. Yeah.

[Sam Roberts]

You know, what can I tell you? But there is something to explore about the fact that. That last year at this time, night two of WrestleMania, Seth was the unsung MVP, right? Yeah, he was, to me, the MVP of WrestleMania last year. And I think I said that a while ago, but I also would say that he didn't get anything out of it. Cody left with the World Championship, Priest left with the World Heavyweight Championship. Like, the only thing that Seth got was an injury. He wasn't even allowed to wrestle.

[Megan Morant]

And he was injured on the build to WrestleMania last year.

[Sam Roberts]

Right. But. But I'm saying he had to go home after WrestleMania.

[Megan Morant]

Yeah.

[Sam Roberts]

So there was no celebration for Seth as an mvp. And this year, instead of Being an mvp, he was a completely selfish player.

[Megan Morant]

And you'd say the bad guy. I mean, I heard all of Vegas singing his song. I didn't hear a lot of boos. Didn't hear a lot of boos.

[Sam Roberts]

They were in shock. And you heard some boos. One of them right next to you. Don't act like there was no boos. There's at least loud boos real close to you.

[Megan Morant]

I'm just looking forward to seeing where this all goes.

[Sam Roberts]

I think it's interesting that Seth last year went the sort of selfless MVP route.

[Megan Morant]

Yep.

[Sam Roberts]

This year, completely selfish, acted 1000% in self interest and looked to destroy two different people. And ultimately you and I think people in general are looking more optimistically.

[Megan Morant]

Good for Seth, finally.

[Sam Roberts]

What do you mean you're bad? You know you're a bad person.

[Megan Morant]

Good for Seth. Everybody else is looking out for number one. And Seth was trying to help everybody else out. And now it's time that he looks out for number one.

[Sam Roberts]

I missed the Megan.

[Megan Morant]

Good for him.

[Sam Roberts]

I missed the Megan that was giving out kidneys. I know. What happened to you? I mean, you should we talk about.

[Megan Morant]

The rest of the card?

[Sam Roberts]

This is terrible what you're saying right now. We should talk about the rest of the card. I thought about not saying it and I decided I was gonna say it. Look, look. You're a bad person. And that's okay. That's okay. Maybe we're all a little hot headed.

[Megan Morant]

Wow.

[Sam Roberts]

But I thought it was necessary. But there was happiness to start.

[Kofi Kingston]

To start WrestleMania.

[Sam Roberts]

Of course. The happiness was we all got to yeet together.

[Megan Morant]

Oh, it was great.

[Sam Roberts]

Yes. Jey uso, who by the way, will be featured on Tops now. You know, Tops now. This Tops now program puts out very limited edition cards of giant events that are happening right now. So some of the amazing events that unfolded here on night one of WrestleMania are going to be represented on these tops now cards that you're going to be able to get online for a very limited time. We can officially reveal that Topps will commemorate J USO's World Heavyweight Championship win. And some lucky fans who order this card will receive rare serial numbered parallels or even an autographed edition.

[Megan Morant]

Oh, wow.

[Sam Roberts]

And this is like a card that will picture Jay winning the main event with the title, like a picture from tonight. And I don't know how many limited edition could get signed. Those are chases. You have to get on and get these cards from Topps now. You can get all the details if you visit ops on Instagram or Scan the QR code. That's below in the description. You know, we were so excited about Jey USO winning that you and I went right to the powers that be and said, we need to talk to Jay. We want to talk to Jay as soon as he comes. I know this WrestleMania recap doesn't start until the end of WrestleMania, but we want. We wanted to talk to Jay.

[Megan Morant]

Of course we did.

[Sam Roberts]

Immediately.

[Megan Morant]

We had to.

[Sam Roberts]

We had to.

[Megan Morant]

There were feelings, and we.

[Sam Roberts]

And they were his feelings, and we wanted him.

[Megan Morant]

Yes, yes.

[Sam Roberts]

So we talked to Jay USO right after he won the world heavyweight championship. I would say his first interview. Some may debate me, but I would say his first interview right after he won right outside gorilla position. He came out. He talked to us. This is what he had to say. Megan Morant, Sam Roberts on the RAW recap. And with my whole chest, I am so happy to say welcome the new world heavyweight champion, Jay uso.

[Jey Uso]

I like what you did at Omega. The world heavy yeet champion. Mr. Shock. The world tuta.

[Sam Roberts]

Yeet. I mean, really, in a real way. Does it feel real, the bounce on your shoulder? Does it feel like this is. This is real?

[Jey Uso]

Nah, it don't, Sam, because I can't even feel my chest right now. I can't feel my shoulders, my right or my left shoulder. I feel like my left lung is damn near my left butt cheek. Gunther been chopping the hell out of my. I felt like I got, man, some punctured lungs or something. I can't breathe right now, but I'm happy, though. Oops. I got the damn gold plate on my chest.

[Sam Roberts]

Yeet, you talk about. You talk about those chops, but there was something going on with your face when you were getting those chops. You were smiling. What. What was going on in your brain in that ring?

[Jey Uso]

You saw that Sam, that man, I was liking it. I started liking it because I know how he get down. I was trying to enter his game, you know what I'm saying? I told y' all, no more yeets. I did yeet a little bit because I can't help it, because I was feeling the energy out there. It was. I'm trying to tell y', all. But I knew, though, I wasn't going out there as Jay uso, I was going out there as Joshua Fatu the whole night. But now, I mean, I'm back to it, man. Yeet. Party. Yeet, Master. Yeet, man. Come on. Yeet with it.

[Woods]

Yeet.

[Jey Uso]

Heavyweight world champion. Whatever you say, Megan.

[Woods]

Damn. Yeet.

[Megan Morant]

Come on, now. Leading up to this WrestleMania match, you kept saying, at some point the bell is going to ring. And you went through this roller coaster to even get to this matchup against Goose, against Gunter. Now that you have this gold on your shoulder, can you reflect on the journey to even get to WrestleMania?

[Jey Uso]

It's hot out here.

[Sam Roberts]

That's the new champion.

[Jey Uso]

Alarm sirens is going off. I can't reflect right now, Megan, because I feel like I'm just trying to be present right now and stay in the moment. Party with my peoples. Party. I know my dad, my mom out here. You know, we in that west coast. I'm glad I got Gunther, like, behind me, man. Like, it was. It was a lot trying to get get to this Saturday. It was a long week. I'm just happy behind me, you know what I'm saying? I got the W. That was the biggest thing to complete the mission. I hope Gunther, I ain't got to mess with him until Monday. I'll see him on Monday. But I'm trying to hang out tonight night and on Sunday. I mean, come on, man. Saturday night, we after Party After Dark, whatever that is. Meet Jimmy. I didn't even know Jimmy was here. MGK in the building too. What up, Bo? Come celebrate, man. Come holl at y' all boys tonight.

[Sam Roberts]

I mean, Jay, we could talk about characters and story lines and all this, but this is reality, okay? I've been in this building all day. I passed you multiple times. Every single time I passed you, straight faced. Every single time I passed you, you had something else on your mind. It was like this guy is space. You're a different person right now. Yeah. Is that what winning does?

[Jey Uso]

Yeah, man. I just. I felt like I just. I got my get back, Goose. I got the revenge Ooze. I ain't like, you know what I'm saying? Once you get, you know, let it go. I had to get you though, Gunther. I had to get you for my family, Ooze. But now that I got you and I got this, I get you a drink, Goose. Like, it's all on me. It's all good, Ooze. I know y' all like vodka out there. Like, come on with it. Come drink, man. Come on, man. I got you.

[Sam Roberts]

Last time we talked to you on Raw recap, you were talking about the doubters, the naysayers, all this stuff, except you were just in front of tens of thousands of people at Allegiance Stadium and they were moving with every single ball beat of that match. Every single time it looked like you were gonna win.

[Woods]

Yeah.

[Sam Roberts]

Ah, Every single time, it looked like you were gonna lose. No. Everybody was along for that ride. Was there a moment in that match where you realized, oh, no, they're riding with me?

[Jey Uso]

Yeah. Yeah. I think probably when it's deep water, it was like I can hear him rumbling. I heard him when I was hitting them splashes on the end, which is why I kept going, because I heard them. You know, I'm glad that the naysayers or the ones who rocking with me, I love everybody. It was. I appreciate. I real talk. I appreciate all y'. All. You're able to have your opinion. That's what makes our fan base so special. That's what makes wrestling special anyway, because you're able to flip and flop, switching, whatever the. Whatever you want to do because you paid your hard earned money. You, you, you, you, you cash in on the apps, you pay for Peacock, Netflix, all that. All that add up boost. You feel me? Don't be like these other family members trying to share your Netflix password code. You feel me? Tell them take their ass out there, go get a job, get that, get their own account. But I appreciate y', all, man. Rock with us every single week, man. It's storytelling. That's what we do. It was love, man. Hate it or love it, bro. There's too much of that in the world already, at least in this wrestling community. Like, let's stay tight, man. Move. Right?

[Megan Morant]

When your brother Jimmy came out to embrace with you after you became the world Heavy Yeet champion, y. What was that like? How emotional was that moment for you?

[Jey Uso]

Very emotional. One, I didn't even know he was here. I didn't even know he was going to see two, I'm mad he came out there with that, that, that, that, that faded ass black sweat suit he had on. Come on, bro.

[Woods]

You out here.

[Jey Uso]

You out here, bro. What you doing with that? That when they. He might get me on this faded Nike tech. Come on, man. Come on, bro. No, I love my brother, man. Love you, Jimmy, man. He healthy. I learned everything from wrestling from him. I told him, man, we. We ain't just me shining. Stop comparing me to my brother. Because we together. And he ain't got to because he's. He's 10 times better than me.

[Sam Roberts]

All right?

[Jey Uso]

We ain't got to do none of that, man. That's Big J, man. Love my brothers, man. Love my whole family. We on of top.

[Sam Roberts]

Let's talk about other family members, specifically somebody who every time anything negative happens to you, they're on the Internet and they have something to say, talking about your father. What do you think is going on in the mind right now of Rikishi?

[Jey Uso]

I think somebody better take his phone right now because he probably wild. I mean, he's always going to pick his kids. You feel me? Like, he's my dad. Sometimes I can't see him talking from a father point of view, but, like, dad, let's. You know, let's work them too, you know, Rakishi, you know what I'm saying? Hall of famer. But I love my father.

[Sam Roberts]

He.

[Jey Uso]

And he can express his opinion just like everybody, every. Everybody else's. He's an og. I love my dad, man. Let him get it out, you know, like, he og. They don't know what they're doing half the time. You know what I'm saying?

[Sam Roberts]

We're gonna let you go celebrate. We're gonna let you party.

[Jey Uso]

Y' all can come through now.

[Sam Roberts]

I would love to. I would love to do that, but I want to know right now if today you could jump in a time machine and find Jey uso as he's first making his WWE debut. Find Jey USO with the board shorts, with the face paint, with the everything. What would you tell that Jey Uso?

[Jey Uso]

I would tell that Jey USO to pick and choose.

[Sam Roberts]

What.

[Jey Uso]

Which people to listen to. You ain't got to try to listen to everybody. You feel me? Like, pick and choose. What kind of advice helps you? You know? I'm saying, like, not gonna hurt everyone's feelings if you don't do what they say. I always try to do what everybody said because coming up at that time, she wanted to listen to everybody, you know, which. I can't do that, man. Man, just believe in yourself, man, and do what works for you. Do what got you to the party, man.

[Sam Roberts]

We got the gold teeth, we got the gold glasses. We got the new I just won a match, a championship at Wrestlemania T shirt from WWE shop. You got the rhinestone bedazzled pants. Ladies and gentlemen, your world heavy champion, J. Oh, yes. You hear that? That's not just a Toyota truck. That's the sound of no crowds, no alerts, no distractions, and no telling what you'll find next. You know, like a detour. So why would you ever take a.

[Kofi Kingston]

Tour when you could take a detour?

[Sam Roberts]

Toyota trucks. We came, we saw, we yeeted. Megan Moran. I mean, what a. What a moment to get to witness. And you saw that moment all over Jay's face. But also, we were talking about this shirt. Yeah, I didn't so. So when you said heavy Yeet Champion, I legit thought that you had just.

[Megan Morant]

Oh, no, I'm not that smart.

[Sam Roberts]

I was like, listen to Megan W.

[Megan Morant]

No, no, I saw the shirt.

[Sam Roberts]

You're a very strong reader.

[Megan Morant]

That.

[Sam Roberts]

Very strong reader.

[Megan Morant]

That was incredible.

[Sam Roberts]

But that shirt is, by the way, available on WWE Shop.

[Megan Morant]

And I'm gonna get one.

[Sam Roberts]

You are gonna get one.

[Megan Morant]

Have to.

[Sam Roberts]

You have to.

[Megan Morant]

Yeah.

[Sam Roberts]

There are winner shirts that are available for WrestleMania on WWE Shop. I'm. I'm. I'm. I don't know. Maybe the new day have one. They won the tag team championship, you know, and still T shirts available as well. You can go to WWE Shop right now, get all your winners merchandise to celebrate. Because to me, the winner's merchandise is so cool because it celebrates the moment. It reminds you of where you were when you either, you know, saw it on TV or saw it in the building or however you saw it.

[Megan Morant]

And that's what WrestleMania is all about.

[Sam Roberts]

Capturing those moments 100%. And also for someone like Jay, the winner shirt kind of encapsulates, like, the career. Yeah, exactly. And the journey that we were all on. But people can actually. This is so cool. To me. People are gonna be able to get even closer to it because I didn't realize this was happening. But if you look real closely, the superstars that were competing at WrestleMania were wearing WrestleMania patches. Oh, I saw this on all of their gear. So what Topps is gonna do is take all the patches off the gear that these superstars actually wore in the ring during their WrestleMania matches and make one of one trading cards of each patch. So somebody's going to get the CM Punk patch. Somebody's going to get the Seth Rollins patch. I don't know. Maybe they put a patch on Paul Heyman's Brioni suit. I don't know if they did or not, but maybe. Maybe that's a big one of one because that was a big moment for Paul Heyman.

[Megan Morant]

A big moment in history, too.

[Sam Roberts]

Yes. So upcoming sets are going to include these amazing WrestleMania patch cards. They'll hit retail and hobby shops later this year. So stay tuned and follow at Tops for their official drop date when we can get our hands on them. And, you know, we'll be ripping packs. But Megan Jay, uso, not only. I felt like this was so special for Jay because not only did he win the match, not only did he beat Gunther, which, by the way, Gunther, for someone whose record is almost impeccable, his WrestleMania record is shaky.

[Megan Morant]

It's interesting Right, I know. I mean, facts are facts. Yeah.

[Sam Roberts]

Statistics are statistics. Numbers are numbers. That's all.

[Megan Morant]

We're one and two.

[Sam Roberts]

Yeah, I think that's right.

[Megan Morant]

One and two at WrestleMania.

[Sam Roberts]

Yeah, I think that's right.

[Megan Morant]

And it's. It's similar. Like, he lost to the underdog Sami.

[Sam Roberts]

Zayn last year, and this was a bigger loss.

[Megan Morant]

Yeah. And USO again, another underdog.

[Sam Roberts]

And I'm glad you brought that up, because the difference to me here is that there were people that were doubting J uso, not just as somebody who could or should beat Gunther, but as somebody that is a proper main event guy. As somebody, like, it's almost like it was fun to call him Main Event Jey uso, but there was this segment of the population that once he actually started to become Main Event J usa.

[Megan Morant]

They were like, well, it's just an entrance. Well, you know, it's just a vibe, all of that. But at some point, the bell's gonna ring and does Jey uso belong there?

[Sam Roberts]

That's exactly right. Yeah. And I was not doubting Jey uso, but at least interested in that as a concept. And then the bell rang. And I mean, the ride that this audience went on, Jay went with Jey uso on. I thought what was really cool about this was that Jey uso did not sneak one by Gunther. Jaden get him with a small package. Jay didn't get a super kick. Out of nowhere. Jay didn't like. Jay beat Gunther. He got Gunther to tap out at his own game. And Gunther, by the way, knew he was toast.

[Megan Morant]

Three USO splashes and then the submission.

[Sam Roberts]

Gunther tap quick.

[Megan Morant]

He did.

[Sam Roberts]

It didn't take long for Gunther to tap. He knew. And that's not to say, oh, I can't. That's to say I'm not getting out of this hold. That's why people tap.

[Megan Morant]

Yeah.

[Sam Roberts]

So it's not like, you know, it's because, like, I'm going to be unconscious. He's going to cut my oxygen off.

[Megan Morant]

What I loved about this whole ride with Jey uso, and you brought it up in the interview we did with him about, you know, his start and the advice that he'd give to younger Jey uso, but it really feels like he's a completely different person from when Cody Rhodes brought him over to Monday Night Raw and he began his singles run.

[Sam Roberts]

Man, it's so interesting because that's a great point. Like, there are so many different spots to start the Jey uso journey on. And I think like, either the whole career or, I think, the bloodline, but you're 100% right. Like the Jey USO quitting and then Cody Rhodes using his powers to get Jay onto Monday Night Raw. And that really being the start of Jay as a completely independent single superstar.

[Megan Morant]

It was like the start of this chapter that felt like ended tonight and. Or began tonight. I mean, now a new chapter begins.

[Sam Roberts]

And when did. Yeah, exactly. Right. And when did the yeet thing start?

[Megan Morant]

Like a year ago.

[Sam Roberts]

Right, With Cody.

[Megan Morant]

Yes.

[Sam Roberts]

Remember the press conference?

[Megan Morant]

Of course. That he just kept saying they were having a fun time and it was.

[Sam Roberts]

Like, yeah, that started something absolutely amazing. But even then, I don't know that people would have thought when Cody brought him over to Monday Night Raw, like, oh, this guy's destined to win the Royal rumble, go to WrestleMania, beat Gunther and become the World Heavyweight Champion.

[Megan Morant]

I mean, I'll speak for myself. I didn't. I didn't think that. Did you?

[Sam Roberts]

No.

[Megan Morant]

I mean, no, I didn't say absolutely not. But it wasn't like, oh, this guy's going to go on to be world. Yeah, he's not going to be World Heavyweight Champion.

[Sam Roberts]

His entrance was fabulous.

[Megan Morant]

Yeah.

[Sam Roberts]

I mean, coming in with the. With the dancers and the flag waivers and everything, the cheerleaders on the aisles next to him, but still, Jay was in pure business mode. That's why I'm glad we did that interview, because it was amazing to me that this guy and I wasn't like, you know, trying to play up a storyline. Nobody told me Joe wasn't over there going, hey, make sure people know that Jay was serious before. You know, he wasn't telling me that.

[Megan Morant]

No, it was real.

[Sam Roberts]

I was passing by Jay USO multiple times today, and Jay USO was like, what's up, bro? Yeah, what's up, booze? Like, but, like, very, like, sort of.

[Megan Morant]

Stoic, which usually it's eat.

[Sam Roberts]

It's like a party.

[Megan Morant]

Yeah.

[Sam Roberts]

But the minute the match was over and the minute he won the world title and the minute the fans were completely with him every step of the way and big brother Jimmy was in there with him, then it was like, okay, I'm back and I'm the World Heavyweight Champion. I mean, you don't understand. At one point, Jey USO had an action figure that was packaged with a surfboard. Just because. Because, I don't know. Put a surfboard with him. He wears bright shorts. When did he ever come out with a surfboard? I don't know. I don't even know anything about this Jey USO2, he's the world Heavyweight Champion. I wonder what that's going to look like. I mean, that goes back to my point about, like, the foundation kind of shifting and this being the beginning of a new season. I mean, who are the challengers for? Jey uso. Jey USO is now the defending World Heavyweight Champion. It's kind of unbelievable to think that, like, it's one thing to go, like, he's going to have the World Heavyweight championship match at WrestleMania, but the idea that he's coming off of WrestleMania and now is going to have, hopefully, for his sake, many World Heavyweight Championship matches.

[Megan Morant]

Yeah.

[Sam Roberts]

It's a wild thing. He is. Main event. Jey uso.

[Megan Morant]

Yeah. And all the haters are gonna have to deal with it.

[Sam Roberts]

Well, we've never. We've never liked the haters anyway. We've never liked the haters.

[Megan Morant]

Screw them.

[Sam Roberts]

We had another title change. The United States Championship changed hands.

[Megan Morant]

Your guy.

[Sam Roberts]

Oh, my guy.

[Megan Morant]

Your guy.

[Sam Roberts]

Came in and, I mean, all business. You want to sing. You want to sing. I know you do. I can see it.

[Megan Morant]

Well, wait, I'm like, is that Solos, though? Taking it all? Settle the score. Yeah, yeah, I know, but Solo was with him.

[Sam Roberts]

He was with him.

[Megan Morant]

Yeah.

[Sam Roberts]

Solo gave him his blessing.

[Megan Morant]

Yeah.

[Sam Roberts]

I mean, this Solo is a smart guy. He's like, look, I may not have power over Jacob Fatu anymore, but what I am going to do is I'm going to be like you. Do you, bro. I got your back.

[Megan Morant]

Yeah.

[Sam Roberts]

We're all good, right?

[Megan Morant]

Winners? We're good. Yeah. But listen, if a guy is dangerous as Jacob Fatu, that's exactly where you want to be.

[Sam Roberts]

That's right.

[Megan Morant]

Yeah.

[Sam Roberts]

I was on the Countdown show with Joe Test, and I was talking about Jacob Fatu, and I said, the reality of the situation that we're looking at is that winning a championship at WrestleMania is massive. WrestleMania is the biggest stage that WWE has to offer, and that's in an era where this global company is bigger than it's ever been. When you win a championship on that stage, you are now this representative of the company. Jacob Fatu, who at one point was not deemed fit for society, is now the United States Champion of the wwe.

[Megan Morant]

And Sam think to a year ago, Jacob Fatu was not in wwe, but there were all kinds of rumors about how Jacob Fatu signed with wwe. Solo creates a new bloodline, and we would watch every episode together. And every time a new Samoan or a new Tongan was unveiled, I said to you, is that Jacob Fatu. And you said, no, Megan, you will know when Jacob Fatu arrives. And sure enough, I knew immediately. But you talk about the foundation shifting.

[Sam Roberts]

That is a 100% legitimate text that was sent. It's probably on your phone somewhere still. You will know when it's Jacob Fatu.

[Megan Morant]

Oh, and I knew.

[Sam Roberts]

And you knew.

[Megan Morant]

But you talk about foundation shifting. This is just scratching the surface.

[Sam Roberts]

Who's going to take that title from him?

[Megan Morant]

Who? I don't know.

[Sam Roberts]

No one.

[Megan Morant]

I mean, everybody should fear Jacob Fatu. Everyone.

[Sam Roberts]

I would agree. I would agree 100%.

[Megan Morant]

Watching him. I mean, the. The prettiest moon. I mean, it wasn't. It's a pretty, pretty moon ever. But I think this is.

[Sam Roberts]

That's. I mean, it's close. Startling.

[Megan Morant]

Yeah.

[Sam Roberts]

The level of athleticism that Jacob Fatu has. It's crazy how, like, athletic. That he could just jump up some ropes. Like, it looks like how I would make my action figures do moonsaults where you just go, boing, boing, boing, boing.

[Megan Morant]

And then you add in the size of him as well.

[Sam Roberts]

Yeah. And he does it twice. Twice. That is a pure action figure move. People can't do that. That's not a human thing. Why don't you do two moonsaults? I'm exhausted from the first one. And Jacob's like, oh, that's a good idea. Bet he goes up and he goes yada to mean. And he jumps up for a second mood sword.

[Megan Morant]

And that's why he's the United States champion.

[Sam Roberts]

But you brought. We were talking about the bloodline and Roman reigns and all this stuff. And of course, that's going to be a big part of Jacob's history. I mean, you're right when you say Roman and his victories had asterisks next to him. Not Jacobs.

[Megan Morant]

No, he didn't have any help.

[Sam Roberts]

Not Jacobs.

[Megan Morant]

I mean, Solo was there supporting his cousin.

[Sam Roberts]

That's moral support. Yeah, that's fine. I mean, wild, wild times. We had a title. An and still scenario, which this was. This shocked me when I made my WrestleMania picks. I said, you know what? I think Charlotte's gonna beat Tiffany. You know, I said, I think Charlotte's gonna win this one. I think that we're gonna see Tiffany on the hunt after. I think we're all gonna be able to root for her. Hunting after the big bad wolf. And here we go. And then boom. No, Tiffany is able to beat Charlotte. It was an uncomfortable journey.

[Megan Morant]

It was.

[Sam Roberts]

It got personal to get to the match. Now, look, it also added a lot of Interest in the match when it got personal. Yeah, it did, you know, so I can't really say that that was a bad thing.

[Megan Morant]

Yeah. And it was just, you know, I think ever since Tiffany entered wwe, she's been compared to Charlotte Flair. And I think Tiffany would even admit that there was a time she really looked up to Charlotte Flair. This was a dream match. Yeah, there's a dream match for her. And then when it shift and becomes personal, it's just like, look, I don't. I don't know what's going on between these two women, but what I do know is that I'm very interested in seeing this match and two incredible athletes. I think Michael Cole said it on commentary. He said that he believes this is only the start of Tiffany having a career like Charlotte Flair, which Charlotte Flair is one of the best to ever do it in the women's division. So that's high praise.

[Sam Roberts]

No, and I think it's accurate. I think people see that. And I wonder if Charlotte comes back to wwe. She's getting out of helicopters. She's the queen, you know, she's the top dog. She goes to the Royal Rumble, she wins the thing, she goes to WrestleMania. Like, I wonder if this is going to be one of those scenarios where it's like that. That bite of reality where it's like Charlotte kind of has to go back to the drawing board. Like, Charlotte is no longer in the position where she gets to show up and just.

[Megan Morant]

She left WWE and things have changed.

[Sam Roberts]

Right, right. I mean, we saw it over at Stand and Deliver this morning. The women's division that's over there. I mean, this. This women's division is as competitive as it's ever been. It's only getting more competitive with the women that are going to be coming in at who knows when. And Charlotte, I don't think can take for granted anymore that she's the top.

[Megan Morant]

No, she can't. I mean, there's so much athleticism and.

[Woods]

Somebody else is the champion.

[Sam Roberts]

So how can you say you're the top at that point? I don't know. It's a really. It's. It's an interesting dynamic. Of course, during the Countdown show, we found out the news about WWE and Triple A, which was massive. You know, one of the people, I believe, who is out on stage during the countdown was Ray Phoenix. Ray Phoenix ends up coming in substituting for Rey Mysterio. But still, it was El Grande Americano with one of the great headbutts in all of lucha libre that was able to Defeat Ray Phoenix. El Grande Americano, even with the Triple A name he really is breaking today. He's incredible.

[Megan Morant]

Just arrived in WWE here and already picking up victories on the grandest stage of them all.

[Sam Roberts]

It really is incredible.

[Megan Morant]

You got to tip your cap to that. El Grande Americano.

[Sam Roberts]

I mean, you can hear the buzz building behind us here backstage at WrestleMania, and they're all talking about Grande Americano and, like, how big of a deal this was. And you have to imagine that this deal that went down between WWE and aaa, it's not a coincidence that Grande Americano is here. I would imagine it was predicated on the fact that Grande Americano was here. I'm not in the meetings. I can't speak for that. I just talk into this microphone and just say stuff. But I think Grande Americano is probably what sealed the deal with the.

[Megan Morant]

We saw a lot of superstars backstage today at WrestleMania. Did you see Grande Americano backstage at all?

[Sam Roberts]

No, I guess he keeps to himself.

[Megan Morant]

Okay. I. I saw somebody who I once thought was Chad Gable, but then quickly realized it was Grande Americano.

[Sam Roberts]

Why would you confuse them? Chad Gable was in the Andre Battle Royal.

[Megan Morant]

He was. He didn't win it, though.

[Sam Roberts]

Chad Gable was in the Andre Battle Royal, so they wouldn't have put him.

[Megan Morant]

No way that he could have been here.

[Sam Roberts]

No, he's in the Andre.

[Megan Morant]

Yeah.

[Sam Roberts]

So, you know, plus Grande Americano interfere. Similar Andre. So that doesn't.

[Megan Morant]

I mean, I don't think anybody's really been talking about that, but they. They did look really similar.

[Kofi Kingston]

I didn't.

[Sam Roberts]

I guess I don't see it, but I wasn't there, so I don't know. Okay. I don't know, but I don't. I don't. I don't see it. How about Vikingo coming in and helping Ray Phoenix? That wasn't something. That was Vikingo coming into a ring at WrestleMania and helping Ray Phoenix. I mean, this is like Mad Libs at this point. It is insane what is going on in wrestling right now.

[Megan Morant]

Yeah.

[Sam Roberts]

I mean, absolutely nuts. Jade Cargill, big victory over Naomi. I thought both of them showed up. I mean, I really think that Naomi has been kind of spectacular throughout this rivalry.

[Megan Morant]

So awesome.

[Sam Roberts]

But Jade Cargill's becoming fairly undeniable.

[Megan Morant]

I mean, her strength was on full display. Strength, athleticism. We just talked about the women's division and, you know, Charlotte Flair and Tiffany Stratton and all the women that we saw in nxt. And I put Jade Carville on that conversation as well. When you just talk about pure athletes.

[Sam Roberts]

In wwe, there was another match and we'll talk about in a minute. But before we talk about it, listen, I got to tell you what I saw at the Superstore this weekend. You know, I got excited. You know, I've been saging everywhere that I go because Travis Scott made it cool. He makes things cool. Now I've been saging, I'm staging around my house. My wife goes, what are you doing?

[Megan Morant]

You stage your hotel room.

[Sam Roberts]

I sage the whole. Of course I got here first thing they did. I saged the hotel room. They said, you can't. The TSA said, you can't bring sage. I said, good, I'll buy some when I get there. You're not going to stop me from saging the hotel room because I'm a big Travis Scott guy. But I go and I look at the incredible collaboration that's going on right now with Cactus Jack. Not that Cactus Jack, Travis Scott, Cactus Jack and wwe. I saw it all over the Superstore. I have texted pretty high ranking executives at wwe. This is true. Going, when are you all going to sell that Travis Scott Hardcore title? I want the Travis Scott Hardcore title. When are you going to sell it? Well, we got our answer. It's for sale.

[Megan Morant]

You got one, let's go.

[Sam Roberts]

It's for sale. It's for sale. It was at. It's at the WrestleMania Superstar. But also this whole collection is [e-mail]. these shirts are amazing.

[Megan Morant]

They happen to be in your size, of course.

[Sam Roberts]

Oh, yeah, These, they happen to be. You got your Travis Scott. That's my sage shirt. And I sage the shirt.

[Megan Morant]

Oh, great.

[Sam Roberts]

Feel fine about holding onto it. You got this one's really great. The Cactus Jack CM Punk shirt, which it's black on black. It says straight edge across the abdominal. It's got your triple X straight edge on the sleeve and then that old school CM Punk X fists on the back. Love that. And then because we have to still continue to pay our respects to our OTC this and I mean, it's just so cool to me, like to legit.

[Megan Morant]

Get the OG logo.

[Sam Roberts]

Yeah. To like have. I was wearing Cactus Jack stuff anyway. Like, I've been wearing Travis Scott sneakers forever, but when? Not forever, but they haven't been out forever, but as long as they've been out. But to have a collaboration between Cactus Jack and WWE that gives us a Roman Reigns hit hard, hit often shirt. Really, really cool stuff. Now the wonderful thing about Cactus Jack and Travis Scott is that all of this stuff is limited. So the supplies are Limited. If you want them, I would recommend getting them [e-mail] and WWE Shop. There's also the 2025 Topps Chrome WWE Cactus Jack collaboration WrestleMania box where people are finding really, really cool stuff. Of course, Cactus Jack coming in and helping design some of them. I don't know if you've seen any of them yet, but they're really, really cool looking. And you know, they have all the refractors and parallels that the Topps Chrome do. Whether it's, you know, the red out of five, whether it's, you know, all this stuff, as well as signed cards from all of the WWE Superstars that you're used to. So check it out. Get your hands on the tops. Travis Scott, WWE Collaboration the Cactus Jack WWE shirts. Go now fanatics.com WWE shop now Megan there's another match at WrestleMania. Brand new WWE Tag Team Champions. A lot of people wondering, why did the new day turn on Biggie? They haven't been better since they turned on Biggie. While they proved them wrong, I suppose, by winning the Tag Team championship tonight at WrestleMania. The reason that we're not using mic stands right now is because of this very interview. Let's welcome fresh off of winning the World Tag team championship at WrestleMania, the New Day. This is an eventful WrestleMania Saturday, to say the least. Titles changing all over the place, not the least of which is we have new. I mean, I'm already. My instinct is to swivel my hips when I say it, but it feels wrong to do that now.

[Woods]

Okay, I'm sorry. I don't mean to cut you off here, man. You need to have a little bit more energy, okay? We just won the tag team titles at WrestleMania and you're over here with this monotone, like, low energy. First of all. Oh, you got. See, here's the problem.

[Kofi Kingston]

That's ridiculous.

[Woods]

Number one, you have me on a show. You call the tag team champions on your show as guests. These are guests of honor. And you do me the dishonor of not even having a legit mic here. What is this, bro? Like, where are we? What are we doing, man? What is your budget like right now.

[Kofi Kingston]

Dude, Honestly, look at all the stuff that they have. You could have packed one more mic.

[Woods]

One more mic stand. Just a stand. You didn't even think about that, huh?

[Sam Roberts]

I mean, there's probably a problem with tag team wrestling and we overlook it too much, I think.

[Kofi Kingston]

We?

[Sam Roberts]

You.

[Woods]

I mean, we.

[Sam Roberts]

You overlook?

[Woods]

You're the problem, bro.

[Kofi Kingston]

When you really break this down, you can be the fans. You can be the world overlooking tag team wrestling, while we have done nothing but enhance it for the entire time that we've been here. This is our art. We are the Van Gogh of tag team wrestling. And now, you see, this is what respect is.

[Woods]

You see it, Sam?

[Sam Roberts]

I see it. No, I see it.

[Woods]

Not Sam.

[Sam Roberts]

I see it.

[Kofi Kingston]

You're not Sam. Yeah, that's always been confusing to me. Are you Sam or not?

[Woods]

Are you Sam or not?

[Sam Roberts]

Not. Sam's like the brand.

[Woods]

Not Sam is the. So you just want to confuse everybody. That's the brand. Hey, let's confuse him, by the way. Confusing.

[Kofi Kingston]

Very confusing.

[Woods]

How about a congratulations, number one? Yeah, how about that?

[Kofi Kingston]

With some energy.

[Woods]

How about that? With some energy, bro.

[Kofi Kingston]

You started this like.

[Megan Morant]

It's like the hips, but I mean, they are champions.

[Woods]

Thank you, Little energy Stallion. Let's go tell this guy.

[Jey Uso]

Helpful.

[Kofi Kingston]

You see, you can't start this off like a funeral.

[Sam Roberts]

They are the new world Tag Team champions.

[Woods]

Here we go, the new day. There it is. And you know you're not going to clap. See what I'm talking about? You're just like everybody else. Thank you.

[Kofi Kingston]

There we go.

[Woods]

Thank you. It shouldn't have had to be prompted, but you naturally and organically. But this is what I'm talking about. This is what I'm talking about.

[Kofi Kingston]

Do you know how many times Ric Flair has been world champion?

[Sam Roberts]

Yeah, I think it's 16.

[Kofi Kingston]

Okay. Do you know how many times John Cena has been champion as of today?

[Sam Roberts]

16.

[Kofi Kingston]

Okay, so if he wins, then he'll have more wins than Ric Flair.

[Sam Roberts]

Right.

[Kofi Kingston]

And Ric Flair's touted as the best, right?

[Sam Roberts]

Yeah.

[Kofi Kingston]

So in the tag team division, do you know who has the most title reigns?

[Sam Roberts]

Not Demolition.

[Kofi Kingston]

You don't have to think.

[Woods]

No, they think. It's a rhetorical. They only had a very simple. Not Sam. Say it. You can just say it. You don't want to say it, say it.

[Sam Roberts]

It's not the USOs, right?

[Kofi Kingston]

No, it's not the USOs.

[Woods]

What?

[Kofi Kingston]

No, they're not even close. I think they're like seven.

[Sam Roberts]

Is it the new day?

[Woods]

Yeah, you know, it is.

[Kofi Kingston]

And it's. And the thing that's funny is, you know, it is. It wasn't just the new day today. It's been the new day for a very long time. We're literally just running up the score 13 WWE World Tag Team Championships. And we are treated like we're just guys who just have been here that you just can hang out with. Oh, look at the new day. They've Just been around for a long time. No, we're. We're objectively the greatest of all time. And y' all treat us like trash.

[Sam Roberts]

Why?

[Kofi Kingston]

Why? We're asking the questions out. Why? Why are we treated like this?

[Sam Roberts]

Do you. I don't. I can't speak for. I don't think I treated you like trash. I can't speak trash.

[Woods]

You had your head hang down low. You weren't in a good mood. You weren't happy to see us. Bro. You got. How many champions have you had on.

[Sam Roberts]

Your show today so far? Just one other champion.

[Woods]

Just one other champion. Do you have more energy for that champion than us? Who was the champion, if you don't mind me asking?

[Megan Morant]

It was. It was Jey. Uso. We did have a lot of energy.

[Woods]

You puppet. You were out here yeeting. You were out here having a good time. You were happy. Right? I bet you didn't have that energy for Jay. Why that energy for us?

[Sam Roberts]

Because I didn't know what to do. Because this hip swiveling is not. Doesn't feel like this incarnation.

[Megan Morant]

You kind of came at us hard, you know, the microphone and.

[Sam Roberts]

We got.

[Jey Uso]

On the wrong foot.

[Sam Roberts]

We.

[Kofi Kingston]

You started on the wrong foot. If you can be excited for Jay finally reaching his goals, becoming the World Heavyweight Champion, you can't start with excitement that we have run up the score on every other tag team in the history of wwe. You can't be excited about that for us.

[Sam Roberts]

Listen. It's a hell of an accomplishment.

[Woods]

See, you didn't answer the question.

[Sam Roberts]

Yeah, it's a hell of an accomplishment. It's a great accomplishment. And by the way, I thought that it was. The way you guys won tonight was completely justifiable. You won via solid teamwork, which is traditionally what the new day has always been about. Acting and as a unit together. Do you think. Because there were a lot of people who. After you guys did what you did to the former member of your group, there were a lot of people that were like, why they even do that? What's next for the new day? Why? They haven't even won any championships since they left Biggie. Why? They're still. They.

[Woods]

Sorry. I'm so.

[Kofi Kingston]

Left Biggie.

[Woods]

Since we left Biggie.

[Kofi Kingston]

Question. We didn't leave Big E. Wow.

[Sam Roberts]

He was.

[Kofi Kingston]

He left us. Yes. He got hurt. And eventually you heal up. You heal up enough to fly cross country, to be on TV shows, to do voiceovers, to be in every single thing that gets thrown at you except coming back to support your friends. And then you wait. You Bide your time, you hear? Oh, ten year anniversary. The spotlight is going to be on new day once again. Now let me show up.

[Megan Morant]

No, I guess we shouldn't tell him that Biggie comes on this show.

[Kofi Kingston]

Exactly.

[Woods]

No, exactly.

[Sam Roberts]

No, he had time.

[Kofi Kingston]

Why would you. He had time for y' all like you do people. I feel like we're crazy. I feel like we're crazy because no one seems to understand that he left us. We got mad about it and now.

[Woods]

We'Re the bad guys and people are mad at us. Why? Like, we sent Biggie home as if he was coming to work in the first place.

[Kofi Kingston]

Yeah. Oh, we want E. We want E. We have no control. He can still come to work. He chooses not to come and see.

[Woods]

He said he was going to come in. He said, oh, okay, well, I'll come and support you guys. I'll be there every single week if you can't. If it was going to come in for us, why didn't he come for y'?

[Kofi Kingston]

All?

[Woods]

But you tout him. But, but we're the bad guys.

[Kofi Kingston]

We're the ones who.

[Woods]

The ones who are the ones who have been here week in, week out. We're the bad guys. Right.

[Sam Roberts]

You know, there was a point that I realized and I brought it up with Joe Tess on the Countdown show, the countdown to Wrestlemania, that you were backstage, you were talking about negative energy being presented to you. And of course there are people who feel like. Well, regardless of what people feel like, it seems like there are a lot of people that are against the new day right now.

[Woods]

Right?

[Sam Roberts]

Then these phrases like boo day come around and stuff like that.

[Woods]

It's really creative. The boo day. Get it?

[Sam Roberts]

But my question is, do you think that because now everybody is against you that it's actually brought the two of you closer together because you're really. I mean, even your families, you know, have problems.

[Kofi Kingston]

We've always been close together. Been close.

[Woods]

Don't you remember when we called you a wedge driver? Remember when we came on your show and you were trying to. Oh, well, if you guys could face each other when we called you a wedge driver. That's because we have no cracks in the foundation. We've always been close. What do you mean it's brought us closer together? We've always had this bond, you know that.

[Sam Roberts]

No, I do know that.

[Woods]

You're trying to rewrite the history as if. Oh, well, since we're. You're trying to take credit for something that you don't have any right to take credit for. Well, since we're the ones who are booing you or did that.

[Sam Roberts]

Did we bring you closer?

[Woods]

You always want to pat yourselves on the back.

[Megan Morant]

I don't even sound like that.

[Woods]

You know what I'm saying?

[Sam Roberts]

I don't think I sound it like that.

[Kofi Kingston]

It just. It makes me. It confuses me because you guys always think it's about you. We don't care about you. We have cared about our goals, our dreams, our success since we were 6, 7, 8 years old. And that's what we're doing. That's always the focus. And if you don't like that, then that has nothing to do with me. That has. That's a you problem. Because a lot of people that watch this show, a lot of people that are in the audience, the hardest thing that they did today was try to get a parking spot to come inside to watch us perform and win these. So the fact that they barely get out of bed in the morning to be productive human beings, they want to move the goalposts and tell us that our success is not actual success, that's insanity.

[Sam Roberts]

Oh, what about when the people close to you start taking umbrage with it? What about when you're goofy?

[Megan Morant]

Did your mom even make it? Did you get her a ticket? Like, I mean, this is a big moment in your career. The people closest.

[Woods]

Your mother, she could have bought her own ticket. You know, she wanted to walk out. I got her a ticket that night, and then she walked out not even halfway through the show. So she doesn't value this, right?

[Sam Roberts]

He flew her.

[Woods]

I flew her here.

[Kofi Kingston]

The miracle of.

[Woods]

Hold on, hold on, hold on. You. You. You. You're mad at me that I flew her from Africa to the United States?

[Megan Morant]

Coach.

[Woods]

Oh, I'm sorry. You. You too good for coach?

[Sam Roberts]

You're too good for coach, man.

[Woods]

Is that. Is that it? You flew her coach. Oh. How many of you fly your parents first class?

[Megan Morant]

I see a couple.

[Woods]

How many people fly. Your parents first class are not here, right? Your parents, they're not even here. You see, this is the kind of hipper hypocrisy that I'm talking about, bro. Wow.

[Sam Roberts]

For free.

[Woods]

That's crazy, right? That's crazy.

[Sam Roberts]

That's what you get.

[Woods]

That's crazy.

[Kofi Kingston]

The onus is always on us. You see that? It's never holding up a mirror to you. It's you guys always holding up a mirror to yourselves and blaming us for how you look. Blaming us for how you are. It's not on us that people are unmotivated. It's not on Us that people are unintelligent. It's not on us that people are emotionally stunted to the point point that they cannot understand that three grown men in professional wrestling of all places, had a mature conversation about something that one of them did. And before we could play that whole conversation out, the entire crowd said screw y'.

[Sam Roberts]

All.

[Kofi Kingston]

So we said screw you.

[Woods]

So that means that you brought the negative energy first. You understand that, right? We are reflecting the negative energy that you guys presented. We didn't come out with the negative energy on our end. That's not what we did. We were all about the power of positivity, right?

[Sam Roberts]

Still.

[Woods]

Yeah, we were all about that.

[Kofi Kingston]

He's getting his heat on his face.

[Woods]

You understand it now, right? No, because a lot of people want to talk trash. And you know, you think it's a one way street on Twitter and on social media where you can just say whatever you want, but then when we say something back and we point out how silly you sound, then all of a sudden we're the bad guys.

[Sam Roberts]

I wasn't gonna bring it up. Woods. I saw your knee pads. Yeah. Is that a three headed unicorn?

[Woods]

Yeah. You don't see it?

[Sam Roberts]

Yeah, you busted. You pop it.

[Woods]

Yeah, I got you.

[Sam Roberts]

You have it.

[Woods]

Right side, strong side.

[Sam Roberts]

It's a.

[Kofi Kingston]

Good.

[Woods]

I guess I'll stand up.

[Sam Roberts]

They're wearing knee pads with a three headed unicorn.

[Woods]

That's right.

[Sam Roberts]

But one of the heads is dead.

[Woods]

That's right.

[Sam Roberts]

It's like a feel.

[Woods]

The three headed dog.

[Kofi Kingston]

What do you mean? Positive. We more. We mourn the loss of that unicorn. We mourn that loss, but we didn't cause that loss.

[Woods]

And as you can see, we still go on. And we carry the legacy on, right? We carry the legacy on. We never left. We keep on going. Horsepower, right? Unicorn power.

[Kofi Kingston]

Still nightmares.

[Woods]

You see that? Get it?

[Sam Roberts]

Yeah.

[Kofi Kingston]

You like that? See, you don't want to like that, do you?

[Woods]

See, you don't want to like. I like it, but he does.

[Kofi Kingston]

You don't want to like that.

[Woods]

You don't want to like it, but he does.

[Kofi Kingston]

But see, that's the difference between us and everybody else. We're actually creative.

[Woods]

See that?

[Kofi Kingston]

Actually intelligent. You see that? And like Kofi said, we're still carrying that weight. We didn't cut it off and drop it off at the store. We still carry that. And now we're stronger for it.

[Woods]

That's right. The legacy lives on through us. You're welcome.

[Sam Roberts]

Where does this moment rank in your team moments at Wrestlemania? Not even the solo stuff. You've done, obviously, Kofimania. I mean, the. Because when you think about the new day at WrestleMania, right? I think about you guys coming out even. Not even to wrestle. Introducing The Hardys at WrestleMania 33. I think about you guys interacting with Stone Cold Steve Austin at WrestleMania in Dallas. I think it was maybe 32. You know, I think about all these. There are a lot of great foundational new day moments from WrestleMania. Where does this one rank?

[Woods]

It's tough to say because it's. It's still so fresh. But if I have to answer right now, this is right at the top. Because we proved a lot of naysayers wrong. Because I know what you're dancing around. I know what you want to say is the fact that we have never won a match as a team at WrestleMania. We proved everybody wrong, right? A lot of people were saying that Byron Saxon before we were going into the biggest match of our careers at WrestleMania. That's the question that he asked us. Oh, well, what happens if you guys don't.

[Kofi Kingston]

What do you.

[Woods]

Why would you even put that thought into our head? If you were watching the NBA championships, would you go up to one of the teams and you ask them about their losses right before the championship match? You wouldn't do that. You wouldn't disrespect them like that. So why would you disrespect us? This is a big moment. We proved everybody wrong, and nobody wanted this to happen, but we gave it to him anyway. We took what we wanted. We didn't care what anybody else wanted. This is a very big moment.

[Megan Morant]

You know, it's interesting because his Byron impression sounds just like his Sam impression. I just want to say I don't. I don't think you guys sound alike at all, but you have never won the championship at WrestleMania with Biggie. Do you think Biggie was holding you back?

[Woods]

Well, you said it, not us.

[Megan Morant]

Well, I was just asking.

[Woods]

I mean, you know what I mean?

[Megan Morant]

I was asking.

[Kofi Kingston]

They call that plagiarism. Your words, not ours.

[Megan Morant]

Well, I asked.

[Sam Roberts]

I don't hold.

[Megan Morant]

I never spoke.

[Woods]

Hold on a second. Hold on one second. Hold on one second, y', all, because you're gonna. You're not just gonna breeze over this double entendre that he just said. Did you hear what he said? He said, they call it plagiarism. Your words, not ours. You understand the definition of plagiarism and how he put it in the double entendre right there. You don't even get it, bro. And you want to breeze by it. It's the disrespect that I'm talking about.

[Kofi Kingston]

This is the thing. People don't want to actually listen. The things that we say hold weight. They have meaning. But all y' all want to do is, oh, wrestling this and wrestling that. We're giving you life lessons on the daily because we are people who have done it right. And that's why you pay your hard earned money at the job that you don't like. You bring the kids that you have that you don't really want with the spouse you're not really happy with. You bring them to the show so that you can see people who have made the correct decisions. And that has led to them living out their dreams. That has led to them winning Tag team championships at WrestleMania, the pinnacle.

[Woods]

Top of the mountain, bro. Top of the mountain.

[Kofi Kingston]

So listen to us, and maybe, just maybe you can get a small, tiny percentage of happiness. Because right now you're mad at us because you're mad at yourselves.

[Woods]

You see, when you point that one finger at everybody else, you got four of them pointing back. It's technically three. And a thumb, however you want to.

[Kofi Kingston]

Call it, but thumbs down a finger. But y' all don't even know that.

[Woods]

You don't even know that.

[Kofi Kingston]

I knew that.

[Sam Roberts]

They call you on that, but then you point it out yourself.

[Woods]

Yeah, we're a little quicker than that. We're a little quicker than that.

[Sam Roberts]

Exactly.

[Woods]

We're a little quicker.

[Kofi Kingston]

Like a thumb war.

[Sam Roberts]

Of course, the thumb's not a finger, Megan. I just don't point it out if you don't know it.

[Megan Morant]

Just pretend.

[Jey Uso]

Just go.

[Megan Morant]

Okay. I always thought I was.

[Sam Roberts]

What does the future look like with New Day as the World Tag Team Champions? Do you have your eyes on any tag teams? Do you have goals for the tag team division?

[Woods]

Timeout, bro. We just won the tag team titles at WrestleMania, and you just asked us if we have our eyes on any other tag teams. We're at the top of the mountain.

[Sam Roberts]

What do you mean you're not going to.

[Woods]

We're gonna go look for people and challenge them to try and challenge us. No. If they want it, they gotta climb the mountain. We can't climb it for you. What are you talking about, bro? You've been having a. You've been having a talk show for a very long time. And now I'm starting to wonder how. Because the questions that you're asking are like, they're kind of mind blowing that you would even ask that to us, newly crowned. It hadn't even been an Hour yet with these titles. This is the 13th time that we've done this. We just did it at WrestleMania in Las Vegas, bro. The second time we've won a tag team title in Las Vegas. Talk about that, bro. Talk about that. Bring up all those stats. What do you mean, bro? What are you talking about? Sam?

[Kofi Kingston]

That's the thing. Who's asking good questions? Not Sam.

[Woods]

Not Sam. So now there's the branding. There's the branding you were talking about.

[Sam Roberts]

We get it now, right? I just. I'm worried that's gonna stick.

[Woods]

That's the marketing you were talking about, right?

[Kofi Kingston]

Who's a great interviewer? Not Sam.

[Woods]

Right.

[Kofi Kingston]

Who's got hair? Not Sam.

[Woods]

Hair look real slappable right now too.

[Kofi Kingston]

So slappable.

[Woods]

Some real slappable. Like we'll make a good sound if we just.

[Sam Roberts]

I don't want you guys to slap me.

[Kofi Kingston]

Sound like you're in the strip club.

[Sam Roberts]

Well, look, congratulations. It was so hard on becoming world tag team champions. Listen, you go back and watch that match. You took a lot of damage and you were able to come back. You took the War Raiders best offense that they had and you out strategized them and you won once again the world tag Team championships. You deserve complete credit for it.

[Kofi Kingston]

We do.

[Sam Roberts]

I'm concerned with what the future of the tag division might look like. You know, you guys are now kind of the leaders of that.

[Kofi Kingston]

Can't interrupt just for a second. So the previous tag team champions, obviously, the War Raiders. What? How many defenses? One or two. Maybe they won them in December or.

[Sam Roberts]

Something like that, I think.

[Kofi Kingston]

And before them, the judgment day. The first title defense they had, I believe was 70 days into their reign. And it was a match against us that we actually should have won. But the referee went to the outside for some reason. So we should have had these championships late last year anyway. And then before them, I don't know who had them. But when the new day has the tag team championships. The tag team championships are interesting. You know who the champions are. The other tag teams know that they can't beat us for these. It doesn't matter if it's the Vikings. Yeah, I said the Vikings. Or even the Creeds. Great new tag teams coming up. They got all these tag teams on smackdown, but there's not one team alive or dead. Oh, what part of life.

[Woods]

Okay, that's better than circle of life?

[Kofi Kingston]

Say it objectively. Alive or dead, there's no tag team that is better than us 13 time champions.

[Woods]

You know what the word objectively means? That's the second time he said it. And you look around like a deer in the hell. You know what that means, right?

[Sam Roberts]

I do know.

[Woods]

Yeah. Okay. That means that there is no denying. Thank you. Thank you.

[Megan Morant]

So you're going to be fighting champions.

[Woods]

It's you. You saw us fight. You've been. You've been seeing us fight. You've been. All of a sudden, we're going to stop fighting.

[Kofi Kingston]

We don't have to have our eyes on the tag team. Eyes on us all.

[Woods]

This. This works, bro.

[Megan Morant]

This.

[Kofi Kingston]

This right here.

[Sam Roberts]

What are you.

[Kofi Kingston]

This is everything. We don't seek out competitors. They seek us out.

[Woods]

Meg, what has happened? What has happened to me?

[Megan Morant]

What has happened to you?

[Woods]

What are we talking about?

[Kofi Kingston]

You used to be Italian. Now you're losing the race.

[Woods]

Oh, my gosh. You like a Shetland pony now. You know what I mean?

[Megan Morant]

I can't believe you're asking.

[Woods]

Oh, my gosh. What has happened? You have changed for the worse.

[Kofi Kingston]

They are.

[Sam Roberts]

They don't raise well at all.

[Kofi Kingston]

They don't.

[Woods]

They don't race at all.

[Sam Roberts]

Yeah.

[Kofi Kingston]

Less than a stallion. More of a Shetland.

[Sam Roberts]

Tony.

[Woods]

Wow.

[Sam Roberts]

Well, you guys are stallions for sure.

[Woods]

That's right.

[Kofi Kingston]

Clyde's champions.

[Sam Roberts]

Clyde slides.

[Megan Morant]

All right, now you're.

[Sam Roberts]

They're the champions.

[Megan Morant]

They are.

[Woods]

They run through the water. And you don't want to say it, but you have to. You can't deny it now. You can't deny it now. Here it is. Now what? Now what you gonna say? Y' all couldn't win without Becky. Now we won't.

[Sam Roberts]

Look at that. It kind of sounds like Byron.

[Megan Morant]

It does. I know it doesn't.

[Kofi Kingston]

You guys are pretty much one. That's what Sound like yin and yang. Why are you disrespecting Byron now? Oh, it's.

[Sam Roberts]

I'm not.

[Kofi Kingston]

Here we disrespect Byron. Now you.

[Woods]

Then you can disrespect Byron the hypocrite. Hypocrite.

[Kofi Kingston]

That's. Everybody in this place is hypocrite.

[Woods]

That's crazy, man.

[Sam Roberts]

You guys are wild, but that's what makes you champions. Congratulations. Happy WrestleMania. And I cannot wait to see what happens going forward on Monday Night Raw and throughout the tag team division now that the new day are once again world Tag Team champions.

[Kofi Kingston]

I still haven't heard Meg say congratulations.

[Megan Morant]

Congratulations.

[Sam Roberts]

She's offended about the Shetland pony thing.

[Megan Morant]

It was tough to swallow.

[Woods]

Well, we hold the mirror up in front and we tell the truth.

[Kofi Kingston]

That's what it is. I'm gonna leave that one alone.

[Woods]

That's what you Used to ask. Used to be, you know, used to have some good questions. I used to like. I used to really look forward to the interviews. I used to really look forward to the interviews, you know, that you. That you would ask us these questions. I'm like, oh, I can't wait. And now I just. I'm not so sure, Meg. It's not been a pleasant experience for me or woods at all. No, I don't mean to speak for you. Maybe it was.

[Kofi Kingston]

No, no, no experience for you.

[Woods]

No, no.

[Sam Roberts]

I'm sorry, guys. I'm sorry.

[Woods]

You are sorry.

[Sam Roberts]

I'm sorry you feel you are sorry.

[Kofi Kingston]

I'm sorry you are that way.

[Woods]

Yeah, that's right.

[Sam Roberts]

Well, I mean, you guys can go celebrate that. Nice champions. Appreciate your time. You were very giving of your time. Sure we were. Feel free to.

[Kofi Kingston]

Yeah, the pleasure is all yours.

[Woods]

The pleasure is all yours. Get a mic stand for your next guest. Cuz they might not be so kind, right? You made me hold my own mic. You made a champion hold his own mic in an interview here. Right? You got to step your game up. You got to be better, Sam. You got to be better.

[Kofi Kingston]

They're not. They're not going to get another mic because there's not going to be another tag team. And they could care less about tag team wrestling. But we're the bad guys because we put it on a pedestal.

[Sam Roberts]

Look at that.

[Kofi Kingston]

It's an art World Championship. Universal Championship. World Tag Team Championship. Same on the same level.

[Woods]

Same. Same.

[Kofi Kingston]

This is much harder to do than that. I'll stand by that to the day that I die.

[Sam Roberts]

You guys are pretty good. Then.

[Kofi Kingston]

Congrats. We're the best. We're the best.

[Sam Roberts]

The best.

[Woods]

I gotta get out of here.

[Sam Roberts]

The best.

[Woods]

Dead or alive. Aggravate me. You're really bringing the mood down. You're killing the vibe. I don't kill the vibe, Sam. Don't kill my vibe.

[Kofi Kingston]

Who's a fun guy? Not Sam.

[Megan Morant]

Here we go again.

[Sam Roberts]

All right, thank you.

[Woods]

I'll drop the mic since you guys couldn't bring me a stand to hold it up by itself.

[Sam Roberts]

Thank you. Okay, okay. That one had a stand. Thanks, guys. That was great. So there you have it. The new day. Probably a little more tense. I didn't realize it'd be so grumpy after winning the World Tag Team Championship. Maybe I can review the tape and learn from that experience because it did not go the way that I thought it was going to go at all.

[Megan Morant]

My favorite was the not Sam part.

[Sam Roberts]

Oh, that was your favorite? You like that part?

[Megan Morant]

It was great.

[Sam Roberts]

You like that?

[Megan Morant]

I mean, did you like when they. They called me. What kind of pony did they call me?

[Sam Roberts]

It was a Shetland pony.

[Megan Morant]

Yeah, Shetland pony. What the heck?

[Sam Roberts]

I believe it was a Shetland pony. Shetland ponies are adorable.

[Megan Morant]

Is that your favorite part?

[Sam Roberts]

I thought it was a compliment.

[Megan Morant]

Okay.

[Sam Roberts]

That's right. I mean, that's. But I'm, you know, a good natured person. Megan, we have so much stuff that we're going to get into tomorrow as well as the next day. Before we get there, do you have any final thoughts as you think about everything?

[Megan Morant]

Yeah. I forgot to bring this up when we were talking about the main event tonight. I just have to say I absolutely loved CM Punk's entrance. Not only being played out, but also recreating his first ever promo that he cut in wwe.

[Sam Roberts]

It was excellent. I'm glad you brought that up. It was. It was really excellent seeing and seeing the face go from younger CM Punk to today's CM Punk. Yeah. Seeing Living Color there to play him out. Paul Heyman helping him with the clobbering time thing. I thought all the entrances were great. I thought Seth Rollins coming out in that big. I'll just say get up was amazing. We were talking about Roman Reigns and his attire, but those screens, which by the way, a lot of people were like hitting me up going like, man, those AR screens, those augmented reality screens, screens look amazing. I'm like, bro, those are real screens. I was like sending pictures to people like, no, they looked amazing. But seeing all the different members historically of the bloodline, both past and present, was. Was really, really cool. But yeah, I'm glad you. You took a moment to do that because Punk's entrance was awesome.

[Megan Morant]

Great.

[Sam Roberts]

It was absolutely off the charts. Tomorrow, WrestleMania Sunday, we will be here for night two of WrestleMania recap. Is the main event what you're looking forward to the most?

[Megan Morant]

Yeah, but I'm a little concerned because someone's trying to ruin wrestling.

[Sam Roberts]

I don't want wrestling to be ruined.

[Megan Morant]

Me either.

[Sam Roberts]

I hate the idea of wrestling being ruined. I love wrestling.

[Megan Morant]

Me too.

[Sam Roberts]

But it is one of those. Can you imagine if. Slash, what's going to happen to me? I feel like what's going to happen is the most important question to ask when you're going towards a wrestling match. Right. And there was just so much there between Cody and John Cena. I'm also absolutely fascinated. I talked about this a little on a not same emergency podcast after smackdown on Friday at the idea of the crowd and Cody Rhodes because Cody Rhodes did an absolutely remarkable thing on smackdown. He was booed and then he got him right back. Like, I mean, it was a master's class, I guess. Cena had just got him into such a fury that Cody started talking. They really came in with the boos. And then Cody was like, just give me a second. And I mean, it took him 45 seconds. He got the crowd right back on his side. So it'll be interesting to see from that perspective. I'll tell you what, that main event is going to be a classic. It's one of those just. Just putting it on the marquee is one of those big forever matches that only comes along the way.

[Megan Morant]

The first time we're ever going to get to see John Cena at WrestleMania as a heel.

[Sam Roberts]

Yeah.

[Megan Morant]

And the last time we'll ever see John Cena at WrestleMania in the squared circle.

[Sam Roberts]

Yeah. Heel or no heel, I think that we could. And I don't know how I'm going to feel. This is what you gotta. You. You have to tune in to tomorrow's WrestleMania recap, because how do I come in here? What kind of energy do I have if, let's say, John Cena does ruin wrestling?

[Megan Morant]

Oh, gosh.

[Sam Roberts]

Except Dominik Mysterio wins the intercontinental championship. It's like, how can you ruin wrestling if Dominik Mysterio is the intercontinental champion?

[Megan Morant]

There's going to be so many feelings, you understand?

[Sam Roberts]

I could live in a world where Jacob Fatu is the United States champion and Dominic Mysterious the intercontinental champion.

[Megan Morant]

You have said that both of those people are your favorite wrestler.

[Sam Roberts]

They're my favorite wrestler.

[Megan Morant]

Yeah.

[Sam Roberts]

Everything's coming up Sammy right now, potentially. We'll see. Well, I mean, we'll see if it happens.

[Megan Morant]

You know, I want to bring up your tribal chief.

[Sam Roberts]

I got my. I got my shirt. I'll be fine. I'll be all right. It's coming with me. By the way, I'm going to use this like a. Like a blankie tonight. I'm going to hold on to it and pretend that never happened. It doesn't stop. After tomorrow, we will be doing another. We won't be returning to the Nazi studio just yet. No, no, no. Because Monday it's.

[Kofi Kingston]

No.

[Sam Roberts]

Well, we did WrestleMania recap. We don't need to do RAW recap. Oh. We need to do RAW recap. And The Raw After WrestleMania recap show will go down from the T Mobile arena. We will be there in the house to watch everything happen and to be back here with you guys. So wherever you are, watching this. If it's on YouTube, make sure that you're leaving comments and doing the whole deal. But if you're listening to it on audio, make sure that you are subscribed across Spotify, Apple, both. I would do both to make sure that you don't miss a moment of these recaps. Megan, another WrestleMania experience with you. I had a blast.

[Megan Morant]

It was a great time. Let's do it again tomorrow.

[Sam Roberts]

Let's do it again tomorrow. Thanks, everybody.