Ep 387 - December Most Anticipated Books!

Summary

Reading Glasses Podcast Summary: Episode 387 - December Most Anticipated Books!

In Episode 387 of the Reading Glasses podcast, hosts Mallory O’Meara and Bria Graham delve into the most anticipated books set to release in December 2024. This comprehensive discussion not only highlights their personal favorites but also incorporates valuable listener feedback and insights into innovative book technologies.

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Current Reads

Bria Graham kicks off the conversation by sharing her current read, "The Pairing" by Casey McQuiston. She describes it as a delightful romance featuring two bisexual protagonists, Theo and Kit, who reconnect on a European food and wine tour after years of separation.

[00:41] Bria Graham: "It's really enjoyable. Very fun, nice romance, and there's a food and travel element."

Meanwhile, Mallory O’Meara is immersed in "A Court of Thorns and Roses" by Sarah J. Maas. She expresses excitement about the upcoming Horny Fairy Book Club set for December 6th, designed exclusively for members.

[02:20] Mallory O’Meara: "I'm really excited to talk to the Glassers about this book."

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Listener Feedback

The episode features insightful tips from listeners:

1. Carolyn offers a solution for mood readers struggling with library holds:

   [04:10] Carolyn: "On Libby, you can browse by available now ebooks, ones that you can start reading immediately."

2. Sarah shares a handy method for Kindle users to transfer library books without Wi-Fi:

   [04:11] Sarah: "You can get new library books on your Kindle without ever turning the Wi-Fi back on... download the book to your computer, connect to your Kindle via USB and move the file over."

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December’s Most Anticipated Books

The heart of the episode revolves around the hosts' picks for December releases across various genres:

1. Bria’s Picks:

   • "Rental House" by Wakey Wang
     A nuanced exploration of marriage through the lens of family vacations, focusing on characters Nate and Kiryu navigating familial and personal dynamics.

     [15:35] Bria Graham: "It's about a marriage seen through the lens of two different family vacations."

   • "Woo Woo" by Ella Baxter
     An eccentric novel delving into the life of a conceptual artist striving to make impactful art amidst personal challenges.

     [17:56] Bria Graham: "It's about being creative, getting advice from others, and infused with humor and empathy."

   • "The Shutouts" by Gabrielle Korn
     A dystopian narrative set in a perilous world for women, intertwining political tensions and personal quests for redemption.

     [19:49] Bria Graham: "It's a little bit of a clifi dystopia, but also a political dystopia with road trip elements."

   • "Mechanize My Hands to War" by Aaron K. Wagner
     A sci-fi debut depicting the rise of android laborers in Appalachia, sparking conflicts with human farmers and emerging militias.

     [22:37] Bria Graham: "It's about androids used as labor in a near-future Appalachia causing problems with human farmers."

2. Mallory’s Picks:

   • "Kingdom of No Tomorrow" by Fict Fabian Yosefat
     This historical fiction novel set in the 1960s explores a woman's involvement with the Black Panther Party, highlighting the intersection of social movements and gender dynamics.

     [16:35] Mallory O’Meara: "It explores how social movements leave people behind, especially the misogyny within the Black Panther Party."

   • "My Darling Boy" by Helen Cooper
     A gripping thriller about two mothers whose sons are entangled in a violent altercation, leading to a mysterious disappearance.

     [17:37] Mallory O’Meara: "It's a thriller about two mothers dealing with the fallout of their sons' conflict and the ensuing mystery."

   • "Private Rights" by Julia Armfield
     A queer retelling of Shakespeare’s King Lear, focusing on three sisters managing their late father's architectural legacy amidst emerging family secrets.

     [20:47] Mallory O’Meara: "It's about three sisters navigating loss, love, and the secrets unearthed from their father's will."

   • "Stuck in the Country with You" by Zuri Day
     A romantic escapade where a woman inherits a farm and reconnects with a past lover, blending country life with heartfelt romance.

     [26:28] Mallory O’Meara: "She's inheriting a farm next to a man she once dated, leading to an engaging country romance."

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Book Technology Spotlight: Book's E-Reader

In addition to book discussions, Bria and Mallory review the Book's E-Reader, a sophisticated device blending the functionalities of an iPad and a Kindle with an E Ink display.

Key Features Discussed:

• Large, E Ink Display: Resembles the size of an iPad, offering a comfortable reading experience.
• Stylus Compatibility: Allows for annotation and note-taking, enhancing the reading and studying process.
• Multi-functionality: Supports various apps, making it suitable for both reading and work-related tasks.

[31:21] Bria Graham: "It comes with a pen. It's basically like a cross between an iPad and a Kindle, but on E Ink."

Both hosts commend the device's elegance and potential to replace multiple gadgets, despite noting a learning curve for those less tech-savvy.

[36:52] Mallory O’Meara: "Being able to annotate stuff by actually writing is cool as fuck."

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Bookish Query: Are Audible Originals Considered Books?

The episode addresses a listener Becky’s question regarding the classification of Audible Originals. Becky wonders if an Audible Original audiobook, not available in print or other formats, qualifies as a book in the eyes of librarians and archivists.

Hosts’ Perspectives:

• Mallory asserts that Audible Originals are indeed books, emphasizing that they fit the Merriam-Webster definition of a "long written or printed literary composition."

  [38:04] Mallory O’Meara: "It is a book to me. It's a long written literary composition... What the author typed out is a book."

• Bria agrees, despite acknowledging the complications arising from platforms like Amazon withholding Audible Originals from traditional book catalogs like Goodreads.

  [37:58] Bria Graham: "I agree with you. I do have concerns that when are podcasts just books? Like, are we gonna get to that?"

The discussion highlights the evolving landscape of literary formats and the importance of recognizing diverse mediums as legitimate forms of books.

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Conclusion

Episode 387 of Reading Glasses offers a vibrant exploration of December’s literary offerings, enriched by personal anecdotes, proactive listener engagement, and thoughtful discourse on emerging book technologies and industry standards. Whether you're looking to update your TBR list with compelling new releases or seeking advice on navigating modern reading tools, this episode serves as an invaluable resource for all book enthusiasts.

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Notable Quotes:

• “It's really enjoyable. Very fun, nice romance, and there's a food and travel element.”
  — Bria Graham ([00:41])

• “I'm really excited to talk to the Glassers about this book.”
  — Mallory O’Meara ([02:20])

• “It’s a cross between an iPad and a Kindle, but on E Ink.”
  — Bria Graham ([31:21])

• “It is a book to me. It’s a long written literary composition.”
  — Mallory O’Meara ([38:04])

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Transcript

[Mallory O'Meara]

You're listening to Reading Glasses, a show about book culture and literary life designed to help you read better. I'm author and book devourer Mallory O'Meara.

[Bria Graham]

And I'm Bria Graham, filmmaker and e reader. This episode, we're doing our last anticipated books for 2024. What's coming out in December. What are we excited to read?

[Mallory O'Meara]

The last. The Stragglers of the year. We've got them for you, folks.

[Bria Graham]

The Dregs. Just kidding. They're great. We love them. Yeah, I'm really good Dregs at all. Plus, we test out the books. Books.

[Mallory O'Meara]

It's pronounced books. We figured it out.

[Bria Graham]

It is pronounced books, but I want to pronounce it books. The books. E reader and settle a debate about audible originals.

[Mallory O'Meara]

But first, what are you reading, Bria?

[Bria Graham]

I'm reading the pairing by Casey McQuiston.

[Mallory O'Meara]

Oh, no.

[Bria Graham]

The Casey McQuiston.

[Mallory O'Meara]

You like it?

[Bria Graham]

Yes. It's really enjoyable. Very. Look, if you're looking for something where you're like, it's fun, nice romance, and there's food. There's a food and travel element. Talk about people on a journey.

[Mallory O'Meara]

This is, like, made for you.

[Bria Graham]

It's a couple that broke up. It's two. Two bisexuals, and they dated.

[Mallory O'Meara]

And they're trying to, like, they're having, like, a bang off, but with other people, right?

[Bria Graham]

Yes, but it starts with them. Like, they broke up years. Two years ago, and they had booked this food and wine tour of Europe. But they.

[Mallory O'Meara]

The worst is when you book something with someone and then you go. But they don't go.

[Bria Graham]

They don't go. Right. And. And because they broke up, and then on, like, the 47th month, because it expires in the 48th month, they somehow both decide to go on the same tour. They didn't plan on it. Literally, one is walking to the back of the bus and is like, oh, my God, is that Kit? And it is Kit. One part that really made me laugh is they both now have the same haircut. In the last two years, they've gotten the same hair.

[Mallory O'Meara]

The queer struggle is real.

[Bria Graham]

It's very funny to me. Yeah. And then at some point, they're like, we're gonna see who can bang the most people in each city. It's mostly told from the point of view of Theo, and she is obviously still in love with Kit, but is looking to distract herself.

[Mallory O'Meara]

So clearly very cute.

[Bria Graham]

They were friends for a long time before they started dating. They were like roommates. It's. It's sexy, but it's Also tons of food descriptions and tons of travel descriptions of these cities. Like right now, they were just in France and Paris and it's just like all about the city and how beautiful it is and yeah, it's just, it's, it's fantastic. It's a real joy to read. What about you? What are you reading?

[Mallory O'Meara]

You know what I'm reading? I'm reading A Court of Thorn and Roses by Sarah J. Maas. I feel so fancy. Finally. I know. Finally I'm here.

[Bria Graham]

Now you know where the thorns and the roses lie.

[Mallory O'Meara]

Yeah, they're in the court. We're all the horny fairies. So I will. Since we all know we've talked about this book on the show so much, one, I want to remind everyone we are doing our Horny fairy book club December 6th. So that is next week. It's for members only, but you can still sign up, go to maximumfun.org join send us your proof of your reading glasses supporting membership and we will send you the zoom link. But that's happening next Friday. I'm really excited to talk to the Glassers about this book, but since we've talked about this book on the show a bunch, I'm going to use this time to complain about something that I already complained to you about is that the library has both parts of this audiobook because it's part one and part two. There was 69 copies of the first part and then like 17 copies of the second part.

[Bria Graham]

So many people are not finishing it.

[Mallory O'Meara]

That's what I'm wondering. What is going on over here also?

[Bria Graham]

That's wild.

[Mallory O'Meara]

I just, I want to find the person who decided to split the audiobook in two. And I just want to talk. I just want to talk.

[Bria Graham]

Yeah, because there's Stephen King books that are just as long that you just have the whole audiobook.

[Mallory O'Meara]

Yeah, it's.

[Bria Graham]

It's just like, here's 40 hours of audio. Good luck.

[Mallory O'Meara]

I don't know, maybe it's because a lot of book clubs were doing it and they like. And splitting it up into two. I don't know what it is, but the person who made this decision, meet me in the parking lot. Let's have a discussion. I just, I, I would love to know the reason, but it is, it's been really fun to read something that is so buzzy and like to see what, see what all the corny kids are talking about. And it's been really fun. So I'm reading A Corn of Thorn and Roses by Sarah J. Moss and.

[Bria Graham]

I am Reading the pairing by Casey McQuiston.

[Mallory O'Meara]

We want to take a moment to share some listener feedback. Carolyn wrote in to say. Hi Brian, Mallory. I have a tip for the reader who is trying to figure out how to solve their mood reader library holds conundrum. We got a lot of feedback about.

[Bria Graham]

This because it was someone who they.

[Mallory O'Meara]

Were a mood reader but they're a library user. So it felt like when all the whatever book was coming in was not what they were in the mood for.

[Bria Graham]

Right. Okay, okay. Okay.

[Mallory O'Meara]

So Carolyn says on Libby, you can browse by available now ebooks, ones that you can start reading immediately. It's of course a less broad amount of options, but you're still mood browsing. So maybe this could keep the reader in the mood for when some of the other titles they're excited about become available. Thanks for all that you guys do. This is. Hold on. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Bria Graham]

The available now is always really helpful. I do available now also when I'm going on a trip and I want to pack that Kindle just right to the brim.

[Mallory O'Meara]

I do the same thing. If I'm about to have a long drive, I do it available now and like pick an audiobook. Yeah.

[Bria Graham]

Or I look at my own wish list and then do available now on my wish list and then I know what's around.

[Mallory O'Meara]

So I think this is the reader who wrote in did not send send a name. But I hope that mood reader checks this out because this is a. This is a hot, hot book. Hot book tip.

[Bria Graham]

Hot book tip. Sarah wrote in and said hi Bria Mallory. I have a hot book tip for K Kindle library users who are also mood readers or who have just tired of the delaying their holds forever. Did you know you can get new library books on your Kindle without ever turning the WI fi back on? Go on. On the Amazon website you go to Kindle E readers in the menu and then navigate to manage your content and devices. You can navigate to the book you want to get onto your Kindle and then click more actions and then download or transfer via usb. Interesting. You then download the book to your computer, connect to your Kindle via USB and move the file over. It takes a little more effort than downloading over WI fi and you won't get the COVID art for the book. But there are plenty of readers out there who will. This will be well worth the trade offs. Hope this helps mood readers everywhere.

[Mallory O'Meara]

So if you have your Kindle.

[Bria Graham]

I did not know that.

[Mallory O'Meara]

No, this is a hot. This is a sweetheart fajita level tip.

[Bria Graham]

But they are library books. You can download the library books. That's what's surprising to me.

[Mallory O'Meara]

Yeah, I didn't know that.

[Bria Graham]

I didn't know that either.

[Mallory O'Meara]

We'll put. We'll put this description in the show notes so people can, like, get walked through how to do it.

[Bria Graham]

We have to try this out. Actually, we should.

[Mallory O'Meara]

We should test this out for the show.

[Bria Graham]

That's very cool, Sarah.

[Mallory O'Meara]

Of course it's a Sarah. Who sent this in. This is a scorching hot, hot Sarah tip. Hot Sarah tip, baby. Jillian wrote in to say hi, Brian, Mallory. I love listening to reading glasses on Thursday mornings while I take my dog for a walk. It helps me get out of bed and get excited for the day. Oh, thank you, Jillian. While listening on my walk today, I stopped at the little free library as I always do. Lately there hasn't been much in there, but today there was a copy of Cloud Atlas. Wow. It's not mine. I prom it is one of the books that has been on my Goodreads TBR for the longest. So I picked it up not 15 seconds later. Mallory said that one of the books that had been on her TBR the longest was Clown Atlas. Oh, Jillian, I'm here with you. My brain almost exploded on the sidewalk. I took it as a sign that both Mallory and I need to read this book soon. Thanks so much for creating my designated Thursday morning podcast. It truly makes my day book. I do.

[Bria Graham]

Book two.

[Mallory O'Meara]

Oh, I love this. And I also want to say I saw people in the slack and they were like, Mallory, just get rid of this book if you don't want. And the re. So the reason why I picked Cloud Atlas. So I had got rid of my other David Mitchell books because the Cloud Atlas was the one I wanted to read the most. And I was like, I'm gonna donate these other because they were used books that I had anyways. Like, I'm gonna get. I had like. There was like two others and I donated them. And I was like, now I have to read this. It's the only David Mitchell book I have. But I still. It's the one I wanted to read the most. So Jillian, let's. Let's check back in in a few months and see if we've. Maybe I'll read it over the holidays.

[Bria Graham]

Ooh, that's a good idea.

[Mallory O'Meara]

Good idea. You wanna read Jillian's wheelhouse?

[Bria Graham]

Yeah. Women training as warriors. Magic school found family unrelated stories that overlap in an unexpected way.

[Mallory O'Meara]

Oh, I like that.

[Bria Graham]

Y Trials, parallel universes and universe concepts especially across series, think Cosmere, the Shadowhunter Chronicles, et cetera. Complex villain and political intrigue.

[Mallory O'Meara]

Absolutely fantastic. You can email [e-mail] if you want a list of all the books we talk about on the show deliver to your inbox every month. You can sign up for our newsletter. There's a link in the show notes. Quite a few bookmarks folks. There's a few things I want to say. First off, again I want to remind folks, next week we have our Horny Fairy Book Club. This is a members only zoom. It is at 6pm Pacific Time. So that's December 6, Friday 6pm Pacific Time. Members only Email if you're not in this I'm going to drop the Zoom invite in the slack but if you're not in there, just email us and we'll send you an invite. If you are a member, you can still sign [e-mail] join email your receipt over to reading glasses podcast gmail.com and we'll all talk about horny fairies. Bri and I are coming up with questions. All you got to do is show up. Even if you haven't read the book, if you want to. But there will be spoilers. This is a straight up full on book club discussion about the whole book. There'll be questions. They'll be joking about horny fairies. It's going to be a really good time. Also, I want to say we recorded this last, the last batch of episodes before the election happened actually on, on election day. I know and I know if many glassers, maybe all the glassers are like us. We're all. I mean I think I'm just going to disassociate until the end of the year. But we just want to say we're here with you. We are all having a rough time. This has been the worst possible year. Don't know what happened. America itself picked up a cursed amulet. Maybe America is a cursed amulet. But if you are feeling really overwhelmed and you don't. You're. You don't know what to do. You're not alone. I know some people are having trouble reading because of it. Or some people are diving into escapist books because of it. Either one is okay. Whatever you need to do to stay sane and keep yourself through this. Something an article I read that really helped me was to. I know, I know everything feels so big right now and there's so many problems. So just focus on your own community. Focus on your own little things. So I that's what we'll be doing here on reading glasses. I am a part of Authors Against Book Bans. I'm really proud to to be part of that organization and I want to continue to work with them and protect our freedom to read, protect books in this country, protect books that are written by marginalized people. And so if I suggest, if you're. You don't really know where to start, start in your own community, get on your. Go to those library board meetings. Start to protect something that you love, which is freedom to read children's freedom to read queer books, freedom to read books about the experiences of marginalized people. That's just what I'm doing. Besides drinking a lot. But that doesn't help the community. It just helps the liquor store that's a mile away from my house. But I just wanted to drop that in because again, last time we recorded was on election day. So if it seemed weird that the last two episodes we're like, wow, Mallory and Bria aren't talking about this big thing.

[Bria Graham]

They seem fine.

[Mallory O'Meara]

That's why. So this is the first time we're recording since that happened. But yes, if also, if you are an author and you want to join Authors Against Book Bands, please, I'll put a link in the show notes. It's an incredible organization run by some really incredible folks, really proud of it. Also, I want to thank everyone for the incredible response to the which is this is such a weird. I did not want to announce my first novel after election day, but that's the way publishers we work. Thank you all for the really kind words. I am feeling a lot of feelings about writing an extremely feminist work of fiction in this world. Maybe it's more needed than ever. But you were also kind about it and excited about it. It's not up for pre order yet, but my first novel is going to be coming out probably not next year, but the year after. I'm really excited. I'm really nervous. It is a horror book, of course. It's not a haunted house book, which is kind of surprising.

[Bria Graham]

Well, you could put one in there.

[Mallory O'Meara]

No, I can't. There's another.

[Bria Graham]

It's a.

[Mallory O'Meara]

It's more of a cult kind of secret society deal. Maybe I'll write another novel and it'll be a haunted house book. But I just want to thank everybody for the support and the lovely words and we really appreciate you all and it's going to be tough, but we are going to get through this somehow. I thought we were. I thought the election in 2020 was the return of the King. Turns out it was the Two Towers and we have a whole other fighting against evil saga to get through. Yeah, so get your Lembis bread.

[Bria Graham]

You need to. Yeah, you gotta. You gotta really prepare for the trip.

[Mallory O'Meara]

Yeah, we're going and we're walking into Mordor, folks. But eventually we will throw that ring in the fire, even though it seems impossible. So before we talk about our most anticipated books for December, we're gonna take a.

[Bria Graham]

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[Mallory O'Meara]

Dishes. Folding the laundry. Doing cat grooming.

[Bria Graham]

Okay, thank you. Great oh, things you could do while listening. Yeah, I love that the re. I'm like, why do you listen to this show? And Lunar's like dishes fantastic Manolo number one is that it will inspire you. You're gonna be like, oh, I could do that. That's all we have time for. But you'll just have to find Dr. Game show on Maximum fun to find out for yourself.

[Mallory O'Meara]

This week it is our final anticipated books episode of 2024. We made it through this whole year looking up so many books folks. We've gotten so much great feedback on this. We thank you so much for it. And so this month, December was the odd man out. There was December's going to be all by or lonesome. Yeah, just December. We picked books from every genre that are coming out December 2024 that we think you, the Glassers will be most excited about. And of course we talk about our personal most anticipated picks. So get out your library holds list or get ready to smash that pre order button.

[Bria Graham]

We also just want to make sure you know these episodes are brought to you by you, you, but you if you're a maximum member, you, the listener, maximum fund members for making it possible, y'all make it possible for us to do this. Remember, these are only a few of our picks. Mallory puts together a gigantic curated list with genres and wheelhouse items, all sorts of stuff. Look at them, check them out. She puts together this very long list.

[Mallory O'Meara]

That you just cry. I'm like Santa, if I see you not looking at it. I won't.

[Bria Graham]

You will be on the naughty list.

[Mallory O'Meara]

You will be. No, just in my heart and I will cry.

[Bria Graham]

Mallory has two parts of her heart, naughty and good heart heart sections.

[Mallory O'Meara]

Anyway, Sabria, what's your first pick for Dec?

[Bria Graham]

My first one, which you knew I was gonna pick is Rental House by Wakey Wang.

[Mallory O'Meara]

Very anticipated pick.

[Bria Graham]

This is I Loved Chemistry, which she wrote a few years ago. And this one is about a marriage seen through the lens of two different family vacations. So it's got families, it's got relationship stuff. And basically there's these two people who kind of feel like misfits in their own families. It's Nate, who is from a rural white working class family and his family doesn't trust his intellectual ambitions. And Kiryu, who is the only child of strict, well educated Chinese immigrant parents. I just think her writing is really beautiful and she really gets to the heart of what it's like to be a human person.

[Mallory O'Meara]

Well, you really loved her last book.

[Bria Graham]

I really did. I actually think she had one in between those that I haven't read. I don't think this. I think she had one that's on my. Joan is okay, which I think is actually on my Kindle that I have not read yet.

[Mallory O'Meara]

How did we miss that?

[Bria Graham]

That came out in 2022. Chemistry came out in 2017. But, yeah, this one comes out in December. So excited for that one. What's the first one on your list?

[Mallory O'Meara]

It is. It's a literary fiction book. It's historical fiction. It's Kingdom of no Tomorrow by Fict Fabian Yosefat. I'm really excited about this book. So it takes place. Historical. Takes place in the 1960s, first in Oakland and then Chicago. And it's about this woman who gets involved in the Black Panther Party. She falls in love with a guy who's in the Black Panther Party. And it really explores how a lot of social movements leave people behind and how, like, there's a lot of misogyny in the Black Panther Party. So it's some. Because I write about history, especially women's history so much. I see this all the time. It especially happens to black women that, like, the feminist movements are all white and don't want anyone that isn't white. But a lot of the black movements were leaving women behind, so they were kind of caught. Caught in that crack between the two and really examining that. So I'm really, really excited to read a novel, like, from the point of view of someone who's going through that exact thing. I'm pretty sure this is a debut novel as well. So I'm really excited. You know, I love my historical fiction, and I think this is. Is gonna be a really good read. What's your next one?

[Bria Graham]

My next one is called I don't Know this Author at All. It just sounded like something I would be interested in. It is a fiction book, but it's called Woo Woo by Ella Baxter. I say it's fiction because it's described as an eccentric novel about what it means to make art as a woman. And when I first saw the description, I was like, oh, it's nonfiction. I was like, no, no, it's fiction.

[Mallory O'Meara]

But I am very, also very interested in this.

[Bria Graham]

It sounds very cool. It's about a woman who is a conceptual artist who's about to put up a photo exhibition that she hopes will, like, change her life and her career. And then it seems like it starts to get a little bit weird. Sorry, I'm trying to read it really fast, the thing. Not read the book, read the Description. So it's most. It's about being creative. It's about getting advice from other people. It's about humor and empathy. It just sounds like a really cool literary fiction book. I feel like this is the time of year where a bunch of cool literary fiction books come out and they kind of get passed over for a lot of lists. So I think it's a good time to, like, check them out.

[Mallory O'Meara]

I'm honestly kind of glad we're highlighting only December because there are a lot of books because there's so many best of the year lists come out in fucking October now.

[Bria Graham]

I know.

[Mallory O'Meara]

I always feel so bad for the books that come out in like, end of November and December because they're like, hey, there's still a year left for sure.

[Bria Graham]

What's your next one?

[Mallory O'Meara]

This is a thriller that I read the description of. And even though. Well, I'll tell you what, I was surprised by how much I wanted to read this book. It's My Darling Boy by Helen Cooper. It's a thriller and it is a stressed out mom book. I was so surprised that I wanted to read it. It's basically about these two guys. They get in a fistfight. One of them gets really, really hurt, and so the other one goes to jail. And then the two mothers are very angry at each other, like, very protective of their sons. Neither one of them thinks they did anything too wrong. They're very angry at each other. And what happens is the son who goes to jail is the day that he's finally able to get out, his mom goes to pick him up and finds out that he already got signed out of jail and now he's disappeared and she doesn't know where he is. So she thinks the other mom got him out of jail and, like, did something to him in revenge for what that son did to her son.

[Bria Graham]

Oh, wow, that's cool.

[Mallory O'Meara]

But nobody knows where he is or what happened. And I was like, this just sounds so fucking compelling that I have not stopped thinking about it. I can't wait to read this. What's your next one?

[Bria Graham]

My next one is a dystopian novel called the Shutouts by Gabrielle Korn, which sounds excellent to me. It seems like it's a little bit of a clifi dystopia, but also a political dystopia. And it also seems to be very much road trippy, on the run stuff. So it's set in where it's dangerous to be a woman driving across the United States because of storms and wildfires, but also Political tensions because. And it's also about a mom who's trying to get her daughter back, who she left seven years ago for a cause that she's not sure she believes in any longer. And then there's another storyline about a mother and a daughter on the road as well, and they're part of a relief program known as the Inside Project, where they've been treated as lab rats for years. So this all. It's like. I guess it's multiple storylines or maybe it's. I don't. I'm not sure, but it just sounds really interesting. Sounds like a really cool science fiction novel coming out right at the end of the year.

[Mallory O'Meara]

We kind of want that. Yeah. Very Bria book, for sure.

[Bria Graham]

Yeah. And seems kind of timely. What's your next one?

[Mallory O'Meara]

Mine is Private Rights by Julia Armfield. Her book Our Wives under the Sea was such a huge banger when it came out a couple years ago.

[Bria Graham]

I'm interested in this, too. I saw it on the Listener. I actually never read that, but I just. People loved it so much.

[Mallory O'Meara]

It's so fucking good. So I was very, very highly anticipating her new one. So this is a queer retelling of King Lear about these three sisters, and they are coming together after their father, who is this very famous architect, has died. They go back to the house they grew up in, which is made out of glass and, like, this big, grand architectural marvel. And of course, as they're sorting through all of his stuff and his will, there's like, a big revelation that's a big secret in his will.

[Bria Graham]

Okay.

[Mallory O'Meara]

And it's. So these three sisters are, like, navigating loss and love. I know at least one sister. Maybe all three of them are queer, and they're sort. They're navigating their own personal lives, but also the loss of their dad, but also all the secrets and revelations that are coming out, like, with going through all of his stuff. So I am. I'm excited. As someone who had someone die and had to go through all of their stuff, I'm actually. I'm excited to read about it. Even though Scott did not have any great revelations, except for the fact that he only read the first chapter of lady from the Black Lagoon, and I'm real mad at him about that.

[Bria Graham]

Did he have it?

[Mallory O'Meara]

He had the bookmark stuck in the book after the first chapter, and I was like, I'm gonna bring this man back to life. God, I hate you, Scott. But so, like, that stuff is very much in my mind right now. And I love how somebody Died. And they left secrets behind. Yeah, it's fun thing, so. And Julia Armfield is so fantastic.

[Bria Graham]

I plan on leaving so many secrets behind. I'm just gonna have like a list of clues.

[Mallory O'Meara]

Leave fake secrets. Like leave a journal with only one word in it.

[Bria Graham]

Oh, yeah, yeah.

[Mallory O'Meara]

Fantastic. I won't tell anybody.

[Bria Graham]

Great.

[Mallory O'Meara]

I'll be like, yeah, I saw Bria meet with a mysterious figure in a lighthouse one night. What's your last pick?

[Bria Graham]

One of the best titles on here.

[Mallory O'Meara]

Yes.

[Bria Graham]

Which is Mechanize My Hands to War by Aaron K. Wagner. It's a debut novel and it's a sci fi novel, as you can imagine, about androids used as labor in like a near future Appalachia. And it causes problems with the human farmers, and they're taking over for the human farmers. And also a militia rises up sort of against them. And then how they're being used for labor in other parts of this community, which. Which obviously again, yep, kind of. I mean, look, we don't have androids yet, but they're getting there.

[Mallory O'Meara]

I forget, was it Tesla? There was some company that's releasing like a robot that like watches you sleep or something.

[Bria Graham]

Doesn't it? I think it clean.

[Mallory O'Meara]

Cleans your house, but it also watches you sleep.

[Bria Graham]

Why does it do that?

[Mallory O'Meara]

I don't know.

[Bria Graham]

Do you? Do we. Are we supposed to have people watching asleep?

[Mallory O'Meara]

No. Hold on, I'm googling. People liked our tangent so much last time, so.

[Bria Graham]

Okay, great. But this seems like a really timely book. And said timely like five times. Why have I. Why? I guess that's what I want.

[Mallory O'Meara]

The new Tesla robot called Optimus will watch you sleep overnight and monitor your breathing, heart rate, sleep patterns, and then offer you protection or assistance in case of any emergencies during your sleep.

[Bria Graham]

Honestly, I want that.

[Mallory O'Meara]

I don't.

[Bria Graham]

No, I like it.

[Mallory O'Meara]

I don't want a robot in my house. I will have to kill it.

[Bria Graham]

I think we've already gone over this and you said the same thing that time. I think you don't have to let it in.

[Mallory O'Meara]

I won't. Don't bring your sleep robot in my house.

[Bria Graham]

But that's all it does. Or does it do other stuff?

[Mallory O'Meara]

It's. I don't know, Tesla.

[Bria Graham]

I thought it did the dishes and stuff.

[Mallory O'Meara]

The picture is literally just a robot standing over a bed.

[Bria Graham]

I wouldn't.

[Mallory O'Meara]

That I would get out my. A flamethrower. So.

[Bria Graham]

Yeah. It also does your chores, though, which that's.

[Mallory O'Meara]

I like doing my chores.

[Bria Graham]

Not me.

[Mallory O'Meara]

The thing. Okay, people, nobody wants to admit the fact that doing Chores is not that bad. It's the fact that we'd have to do chores on top of working so much to live in this capitalist hellscape that we're all raised in.

[Bria Graham]

The trad wives are correct. If you just have to do chores, it's actually kind of beautiful.

[Mallory O'Meara]

Well, they're correct. Just kidding.

[Bria Graham]

Some ways, obviously I don't think they're correct. Oh, I don't want to do dishes. I don't want to do chores.

[Mallory O'Meara]

I like doing my chores. I like listening to a little audiobook. I like folding my laundry with my cats. I don't want a robot to do that. Why don't. Why doesn't a robot just give me money so I don't have to work as hard so I have more time to do stuff?

[Bria Graham]

I mean, that sounds great. I'm not buying the first generation, I will say, but I might be interested in a lady.

[Mallory O'Meara]

Somebody is going to catch fire.

[Bria Graham]

Honestly.

[Mallory O'Meara]

Someone is getting murdered. What's going to happen is someone's going to wake up in the middle of the night with a nightmare and this robot's going to beat them to death with its big robot hands.

[Bria Graham]

But I mean, we've just seen what's happened in some of the Teslas just start catching fire and stuff like.

[Mallory O'Meara]

And they hit people with their. The cars hit people. My friend was telling me that there was a problem with those who's where. In one city, they caught them. All the, all the elect, all the automatic cars met on a. On a rooftop, like a parking lot rooftop in the middle of the night and just were honking at each other.

[Bria Graham]

No.

[Mallory O'Meara]

Yes. I don't trust this. Listen, mark my words, okay? I'm the harbinger. I'm the beginning. I'm the person at the beginning of the sci fi movie. I'm gonna be living in a shack in the woods and the only person safe from these robots.

[Bria Graham]

I'm looking up this Waymo thing.

[Mallory O'Meara]

Waymo. Look up way more. Waymo roof honking folks, we're trying to protect you here.

[Bria Graham]

They do honk at each other in parking lots.

[Mallory O'Meara]

I don't know. I don't want them to start talking to each other.

[Bria Graham]

They're attempting to park in the middle of the night. And the problem is they're all trying to park in the parking lot and they honk at each other and they're just honking back and forth because neither of them is like giving way.

[Mallory O'Meara]

That makes me want to live in a hole in the ground.

[Bria Graham]

Yeah. People in San Francisco complain about the late Night honking. Because they'll just honk and they honk at each other. Which is very funny to me that they're like, get out of the way. No, you get. No. I'm an autonomous. No, you. No. Okay, fascinating.

[Mallory O'Meara]

Well, when you all are being taken away to work in the robot mines, remember what I said?

[Bria Graham]

I'm getting that house clean. I already have a Roomba. What's the difference?

[Mallory O'Meara]

The Roomba can't walk around.

[Bria Graham]

Well, I don't want anything to walk around, but I.

[Mallory O'Meara]

This robot does.

[Bria Graham]

It is like, I would like a high powered Roomba. Cause that Roomba, sometimes I'm like, I think you just pushing the dust from one corner to the other. I don't know if it's actually.

[Mallory O'Meara]

It's a sweeper.

[Bria Graham]

Yeah, it's a sweeper, but doesn't do anything. What's your. What's your last book?

[Mallory O'Meara]

My last pick is, funnily enough, exactly what I want to be doing right now. It's called Stuck in the country with you by Zuri Day. It's a romance book and it's a city to country romance. It's about this woman. She has inherited a farm from. I think it's a family member has died and she inherits this farm. But it turns out that the man who lives in the farm next door is somebody that she slept with for one night 10 years ago, who was her younger brother's rival.

[Bria Graham]

Ooh.

[Mallory O'Meara]

And then she's like, oh, no. But the thing is, one, he's really hot. Two, he was really good at banging. Three, he's really good at farming. So she needs his help. And I was looking at this and I was like, being in the middle of nowhere on a farm and the only person around is a wicked hot person who's good at sex. Sounds sick.

[Bria Graham]

Yeah, it sounds kind of great.

[Mallory O'Meara]

So of course she doesn't want to. She's trying to put him out of her brain. She's just trying to focus on this. But you know what happens. So I'm really excited. This sounds. Seems like a great escapist, fun thing. I'm really pumped. So those are all of our December picks. There's a huge list in the show notes. Check it out. And if you want us, email us and tell us what books that you're pumped about for December. You can send them toreading glasses podcastmail.com. before we test out the books E reader, we're going to take a quick break.

[Bria Graham]

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[Mallory O'Meara]

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[Bria Graham]

Yeah, it's very cool. And Megan reached out to us and said, put this on your list. Right. And that's why we put it on the list. Because it was pricey.

[Mallory O'Meara]

It was pricey. Well, we're gonna talk all about it. What it is. It's the books E reader. We've been referencing these on the show for a long time. We've been really curious.

[Bria Graham]

We have been pronouncing them books, though.

[Mallory O'Meara]

And I guess it's just books, which is cute. But this is so. It's a black and white. They do have color ones, but this is a black and white paper, white screen E reader. It's the Air 3.

[Bria Graham]

Air 3.

[Mallory O'Meara]

And depending on where you get it, between. Anywhere between, like, 300 and something. 400 something dollars.

[Bria Graham]

Yeah, it looks like between. Mostly between 3, 350 and 400. We were just looking it up. It looks like they're about to release a new line. So these might get a little bit cheaper because those look like they're a little bit more expensive.

[Mallory O'Meara]

So it is a pricier E reader, but definitely might be worth it. Bria, what do you think?

[Bria Graham]

What did I think? It's funny that it's called books, by the way. It's not a book. It is not a book.

[Mallory O'Meara]

But it has books.

[Bria Graham]

But it has books. I think this thing is gorgeous. The packaging. I opened it up and I was like, wow, this feels like what I imagine the future feels like. It was like. Just the packaging alone was gorgeous. The problem with new E readers, I will say, is that I'm already sucked into my old one. And so I'm like, very like, but this isn't my Kindle. And I was like, oh, my God, am I gonna have to worry? Am I gonna put all my books on this one now? And, like, what? How do I do that? But no, you can get a Kindle app. You can get a Libby app. You can do all the same stuff.

[Mallory O'Meara]

Yeah. Being able to attach Libby to something is very helpful.

[Bria Graham]

Super helpful. I really liked. It comes with a pen. It comes with a pen. So it's basically. It's like a cross between, like, an iPad and a Kindle, but on E Ink.

[Mallory O'Meara]

Yeah. So that's really the thing is that this is. It's a lot more than just an E reader. You can do a lot with this thing.

[Bria Graham]

And the E Ink works for. With the stylist a billion times better than my iPad.

[Mallory O'Meara]

Really?

[Bria Graham]

My stylist and my iPad. I always feel like I'm writing with like a crayon. Yeah.

[Mallory O'Meara]

Big crayons.

[Bria Graham]

Yeah. But no, like a little tiny crayon that almost sounds. It doesn't even work sometimes. It like just doesn't work very well. So. I thought this was such an elegant e reader slash everything. You could use this for everything. And the only difference, the only problem with me is that I already use my Kindle and I'm used to a small Kindle and it's quite big.

[Mallory O'Meara]

It is, it's like, it's.

[Bria Graham]

It's 10.

[Mallory O'Meara]

10 inches. 10 by 7. It's the size of an iPad, basically.

[Bria Graham]

It's big. It is, yeah.

[Mallory O'Meara]

It's the size of an iPad.

[Bria Graham]

Well, I, I think I have a little iPad or something. But it's. It is, it's the size of a.

[Mallory O'Meara]

Regular iPad, not an iPad mini.

[Bria Graham]

It's large. But if you are looking for a larger, fancier device for at home reading. Because honestly, this is so nice. I was like, would I travel with this? I'd be scared I'd break it or something, but this would work great. I can really see myself using it for work, putting scripts on there and being able to write, actually write on them.

[Mallory O'Meara]

Being able to annotate stuff by actually writing is cool as fuck because when.

[Bria Graham]

You try to write stuff on your iPad, it just looks like chicken scratch. It doesn't work at all. And I'm doing a lot of notes where I look back and I'm like, what was this note I tried to write on the script? I have literally no idea. So, yeah, gorgeous. If something happened to my Kindle, I could see it replacing my Kindle. Right now I'm just like, I have my Kindle, but the size is the only thing that's kind of intimidating. How about you? How'd you feel about it?

[Mallory O'Meara]

Damn, this thing is so fancy.

[Bria Graham]

So fancy.

[Mallory O'Meara]

I think if you're someone who is looking for an e reader that can do a lot of things. Like, you don't want to have just a dedicated e reader. You want to have something that you can look stuff up on the Internet. Like, doesn't this thing also have a camera in it? Yeah, this is for the person who's like, should I get an iPad or Kindle? This is, this is basically both. Like, there's so many things that you can do. There's a lot of apps that you can add to this. But for me personally, the biggest pro and what's probably most worth the money is the size of the screen. It really is just an iPad that has a E ink screen. And if you want to read on a bigger screen that isn't backlit, it's probably worth the money, I think, because, I mean, I love my Kobo, but as I told that story, right, about how big, how I have really. I have the. The size. The font size cranked up on my Kobo, and I was on a date, and I got there first, and the guy walked up and was like, damn, those words are big. And I was like, fuck. But I. So I. I think because I like my. The font size really big. You know, there's only a couple sentences on the screen at a time.

[Bria Graham]

That's right. That's right.

[Mallory O'Meara]

But on this, I was like, oh, wow. I can actually. There's a lot more on the screen, but I could still have the. The font size really big. The con for me is that because there's so much stuff that you can do with it. The operating system did have a learning curve for me, but I'm also notoriously bad with technology.

[Bria Graham]

Yeah, well, anything is going to have a learning curve. But, yes, I. Same here. Where I. At first I was like, oh, how do you get books on it? And then I realized pretty quickly how to do it. But you do to. You're gonna take a little bit to figure out how to use it.

[Mallory O'Meara]

Yes. I think it's a pro and a con. There's a lot of stuff on here, but if you're someone who uses an iPad a lot, you like to annotate, like, again, you want several devices that do multiple things, but you just want to have them on one device. This is kind of the perfect thing for you. It is very heavy. I will also say I don't know how this would travel, but, I mean, if you're someone who, like, regularly travels with a laptop, like, I don't think it would be that different. Again, this is not for you. If you just want something that only does books, nothing else. No cameras, no stylus, no anything. But if you want a multitask device that has that really nice E ink screen, this is great.

[Bria Graham]

It is. It's really beautiful. Yeah, it's. It's. It's a gorgeous device. It is large. It kind of feels like it could replace a lot of things. If you have an iPad and a Kindle, this could definitely replace those.

[Mallory O'Meara]

Yes. I'm looking to see how much iPads are right now. Now. Oh, yeah. An iPad Pro is $1,000. An iPad Air is 600. A regular iPad is $350. So yeah.

[Bria Graham]

Oh yeah, you can get them for. Yeah. So it's around the same price as.

[Mallory O'Meara]

An iPad, but it just has an E Ink screen. They do have color ones. The color books. I. Those are going to be more and they are newer. But if you just want that plain old E Ink screen, which a lot of us do, I mean, I like it. I do think if you have the money for it and this is something that you're looking for, I, I'm giving it a 4 out of 5 pages. I only docked a point because I am very bad at technology and like you, I did have to like watch a couple YouTube videos to see how to like set things up on here.

[Bria Graham]

Yeah, people online were complaining about it.

[Mallory O'Meara]

As well, but it's just a different operating system.

[Bria Graham]

That's what I use. Android.

[Mallory O'Meara]

It's Android, which I do not use.

[Bria Graham]

I don't know how to use that.

[Mallory O'Meara]

I am an iPhone gal forever. But Megan, this. Thank you so, so much for this. Bri is keeping this. Bria.

[Bria Graham]

I love it.

[Mallory O'Meara]

This is Bria.

[Bria Graham]

I am going to start using it for work and it may end up replacing my Kindle. We'll see. Let's check back because I'll see if it ends up. Because I can use it just like I use my Kindle.

[Mallory O'Meara]

That's the thing is having something that you can do both scripts and ebooks on is a pretty big game changer.

[Bria Graham]

Yeah.

[Mallory O'Meara]

I just wish it was made for dummies like me who technology. But yeah. So how many pages are you?

[Bria Graham]

I'm going five out of five.

[Mallory O'Meara]

Wow.

[Bria Graham]

Five out of five, baby. I love it.

[Mallory O'Meara]

Megan, thank you so much. And yeah, if you have ideas for book tech, you can send them to reading glasses podcastmail.com or you can check out our wish list in the show ups. Now let's answer a bookish question from one of our listeners. Becky wrote in. Hi, Brianne Mallory, long time listener, first time caller. My husband and I are big readers and we have a question neither of us could figure out and that is where you and your fabulous podcast come in. I was reading an Audible original book and trying to decide what it really would be categorized by a librarian or archivist. It was never published as a book but was never on radio or television. So would it be considered a book? It wouldn't be a radio broadcast, right? Is it Internet media hell? Curious minds want to know. Thank you ahead of time. I'm taking point on this one, please.

[Bria Graham]

Because it is a. It is. It's a wild new world out there, but still put books that aren't books, books that aren't published.

[Mallory O'Meara]

Still a book. Okay. He calls it a book. Becky says, I was reading an Audible original book.

[Bria Graham]

Yeah, that's true. That's true. But it is funny because it's not. These things are not on Goodreads. They're not on Amazon.

[Mallory O'Meara]

You can't review them. But that's not the book's fault. It's Amazon's fault.

[Bria Graham]

Yeah.

[Mallory O'Meara]

It was published as a book because it is one. It's complicated because a library couldn't categorize it because Audible originals are not allowed to be purchased by libraries.

[Bria Graham]

Oh, I don't like that. That.

[Mallory O'Meara]

I really hate that. And a lot of. A lot of people have big feelings about it, and I am one of them. But that's why when authors who do it, they get a good contract because it's exclusive to. That's why it's an Audible original. It's exclusive to Audible. It's not like other. Like, sometimes something will start on Netflix and then go onto another platform. This is like, stays on Audible, so you can only get it there. It's an incentive to become an Audible member. But it's still a book. It's just like, ebooks that never come out in print are books, and just like print books that don't come out in other formats or books. Merriam Webster defines a book as a long written or printed literary composition. This is. That author typed out this book and it was read by a person. That is a book to me.

[Bria Graham]

I agree with you. I. I do have concerns that, like, when are podcasts just books? Like, are we gonna get to that?

[Mallory O'Meara]

But we're not. It's. We're not a literary composition.

[Bria Graham]

That's true. That's true. I think it's tough.

[Mallory O'Meara]

We are a literary conversation. We're not a composition.

[Bria Graham]

I mean, I'm gonna say this is a valid question, and I think Becky.

[Mallory O'Meara]

Is 100% correct at being like, what the fuck is this? But as far as I'm concerned, this is a book.

[Bria Graham]

Yeah. And it's. It is called Whole Original Book. But again, it's funny. Goodreads is owned by Amazon, and they didn't want to put it on there.

[Mallory O'Meara]

It's kind of strange, but it is very weird.

[Bria Graham]

Yeah.

[Mallory O'Meara]

So my whole thing is think about it like this. So the author wrote this story. If it went to another publisher, you would consider it a book. But because it went to this particular publisher.

[Bria Graham]

Sure. Okay. I like that.

[Mallory O'Meara]

It's the same thing. It's the same story. It is a book. It is a long written literary composition. It just the company that put it out only does audiobooks.

[Bria Graham]

Yeah.

[Mallory O'Meara]

So it does count as a book. But I, I understand being frustrated by this. It is something that's very frustrating for, for readers and librarians. Maybe we can put some pressure on Audible and have them crack those gates.

[Bria Graham]

Open and also at least put them on. I guess it's, it's a, it is an exclusive.

[Mallory O'Meara]

But Becky, you are 100% correct in being like the fuck is this? This is the sort of nitty gritty hair splitting question that about books that we love here on reading glasses. So send in more of these. But Becky will be settled this debate for you. You.

[Bria Graham]

Yeah, yeah. Count it as a book.

[Mallory O'Meara]

Count it as a book. I mean you could put it. I would count this as a book in my Book Buddy. In my, my journal.

[Bria Graham]

In your journal. But you couldn't put it on Goodreads so wouldn't be able to count it there.

[Mallory O'Meara]

Let me see if it's on Book Buddy. No, it's not on Book Buddy.

[Bria Graham]

Yeah.

[Mallory O'Meara]

Well, well, well.

[Bria Graham]

All right.

[Mallory O'Meara]

Audible. You gotta get your together. Yeah.

[Bria Graham]

If you're gonna call them books like, you know, treat them like books.

[Mallory O'Meara]

Treat them like books.

[Bria Graham]

Yeah.

[Mallory O'Meara]

But Becky, thank you for this. This is a really fun one to part out, folks. Send us your book debates. We live for this. I love answering these questions. So if you want us to solve your reader problem or a debate that you and your spouse are having, we're here for it. Send it to reading glasses podcast gmail.com.

[Bria Graham]

As always, should you hire a robot for your household, let us know. We'll debate any debate you and your spouse are having.

[Mallory O'Meara]

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