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Andy Frisella
Yeah went from sleeping on the floor now my jury box froze up Pole stove counted millions in a cold bad
DJ
bitch booted swole got her own bank roll can't fold just a no head shot case cloak cloth what is up? Guys? It's Andy Frisella and you're listening to the show for the Realist. Say goodbye to the lies, the fakeness and delusions of modern society, and welcome to reality. Guys. Today we have Q and A. F. That's where you submit the questions and we give you the answers. Dj, tell them how they could submit their questions.
Andy Frisella
Yeah, guys, you can email your questions into askandy andyforcella.com you can also click the link in the description below, submit them there, or just drop them in the comments of the Q and A of videos on YouTube.
DJ
This is your first time listening. We have shows within the show. We've got Q&AF, which you're about to hear. And then we have CTI, which stands for Cruise the Internet. That's where we put topics on the screen. We speculate on what's going on. We make fun of all these idiots in the world. Then we talk about how we the people have to solve these problems going on in the world. Sometimes you're going to get real talk. Real talks. Just 5 to 20 minutes of me giving you some real talk. And then other times we have 75 hard verses. 75 hard verses where someone comes on the show who has completed the 75 hard program and transformed their lives. They talk about how they were before, how they are now, and how they've utilized the 75 hard program to make that transformation. If you're unfamiliar with 75 hard, it is the initial phase of the Live Hard program, which is the world's most popular mental transformation program in history. And it's also free. You can get it at episode two zero eight on the audio feed. Again, that's 2.08 on the audio feed, only it is not on YouTube. There's also a book available called the Book on Mental Toughness. You can buy that@andyvercella.com it's not free, hence why I said you can buy it. But there's a whole bunch of extra information. If you're someone that likes the ins and outs and likes to know the whys and the hows and the nuts and bolts of how everything works. It's a great book. Sometimes it's in stock, sometimes it isn't because we are always selling out of it. So if you're that kind of person, you go to the website, buy the book. We're happy to, you know, have your support, but it's absolutely not necessary. You can get it for free at episode 208. And then another thing is, is we are the largest show in the world that does not run ads. The reason we don't run ads is because I don't want anybody to question why I'm saying what I'm saying or try to keep it real AF here. All right? So do us a favor, man, and help us grow the show. That's all we ask. Put a lot of time, a lot of energy, a lot of money into producing this show for you guys. And we just ask that you help us grow it so it makes you think. If it makes you laugh, it gives you new perspective. If you think it's information worth sharing, do us a favor and don't be a hoe.
Andy Frisella
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DJ
What's up, man?
Andy Frisella
Back in action, dog.
DJ
Yeah, dude. Yep. Last week we had to. I had to take a little. Little break, you know, had summer smash. And then it's trying to caught up. And, you know, sometimes we go through these little phases with our podcast where, you know, we will take a week or two and kind of chill out and. And sometimes people get upset with that. But, hey, it is what it is, man.
Andy Frisella
Well, I think people just. They don't understand, like, this is not all we do.
DJ
Yeah.
Andy Frisella
You know, in fact, definitely not all I do. Definitely not all you do.
DJ
It costs me money to do this, you know, but we enjoy doing it. And, you know, it's probably not going to be the first time this summer that there's going to be some irregularities in the schedule because I have a lot of shit planned this summer, like life to do. You know, one of the things I'm going to do for sure is I'm going to ride more motorcycles, which means I'm going to be gone for a couple days at a time. We might miss a show here and there, but I just want to let you guys know that, you know, it's going to continue and if the schedule isn't on point all the time, you know, that's the way it goes.
Andy Frisella
Yeah, I mean, if you guys have complaints, you can send that to madot@andyfacella.com.
DJ
yeah,
Andy Frisella
no, man, it's gonna be great. And the good thing is, guys, we got a great lineup this week. Yeah, we got a guest on the show coming up. I think tomorrow you guys have that super good dude coming in.
DJ
And dude, honestly, man, sometimes I just need a break from Talking about the, you know, like, it's not a lot of the stuff that we talk about is important, but it's. It's also like, mind numbing, you know, because it's like you're literally talking about some of the dumbest, craziest stupid that's going on in the world from some of the most low IQ corrupt individuals. And it just sort of like wears on you a little bit sometimes. Just tax it mentally. For sure.
Andy Frisella
Yeah. And that's. That's not just what the IRS does, you know what I'm saying? Like, it's a lot, man.
DJ
Yeah. So, you know, just understand that and, you know, we're gonna do the best that we can for you guys, as always.
Andy Frisella
Yeah, as always. And so why not start off with making some people better?
DJ
That's. I think that's the plan.
Andy Frisella
I got three good ones for you guys. Andy, let's get into these questions. Any question? Number one. Hey, Andy. This one had an exclamation point. So. Hey. Yeah, Andy. I think one of my biggest problems is that I love the idea of what I could become. I love setting goals, making plans, imagining the future. But there's a huge gap between imagining a better life and actually doing the work required to create it. Why do you think so many people fall in love with potential but struggle with execution? Oh,
DJ
first of all, if you're so in love with this idea of the ultimate version of yourself, you think about it, you dream about it, you wish you were that already. How much regret do you actually think you're going to feel if you don't go out and build it? Yeah, okay. Most people, they have regret and they don't even really think about what they want to be. They don't. They. They get to the end of their life, or they get to a certain point in their life where they're like, oh, man, I could have done more. But those people didn't even take the time to draw the vision in their mind. And you have. And you spend all this time thinking about what you could be, not realizing that's just going to be that much harder to deal with if you don't become it. And then what we're talking about here is awareness, dude. You're aware that you could be more, you're aware that you should be more. You're aware that you want to be more. And for that reason, if you don't go out and create it, you're gonna feel much worse than the average person who never takes the time to actually think about what they could be. So there's that. And on top of that is this idea of how the Internet works right now. You know, it's so easy to escape from reality and paint these pictures and visions and have these dreams about this life that you want to live. And the options are endless. And you end up wasting your entire life dreaming of a life that doesn't actually even exist. And so this is a big problem in society, especially now with the technology that we have. It used to be you pick something and then you realize that you had to work really hard to create that in reality. And now there's so many options, and we see so many people and we watch everybody else doing all of these things, and we have a hard time picking what we actually want to do that we end up doing nothing. And we end up spending years of our lives wishing we were doing something else, but failing to make a choice and to go out it. Here's the reality, dude, you gotta choose. You gotta make a choice. What do you want to do? Who do you want to be? Where do you want to live? You can't do all the things, dude. Okay? That's the thing. Very rarely do people get to have the life of all the things, right? Like to get you get to a billionaire status and you could fly a private jet and you can go to your ranch in Montana and you can go to your house in Florida and you can visit your businesses. That's ultimate freedom. But very, very few people get to that point. And the only way they got to that point was they made a decision earlier to get to a certain point, they got to that point and then they made another decision to keep going. And it compounds. So the younger that you can realize this, the better, because we are on a limited time frame. And I think the Internet really damages people in this way because they have such a hard time making a choice because we're so busy watching everybody else live their lives that we, like, have a hard time choosing. And by the way, I do this, okay? Like, when I look at pro, like, I look at property every single night on the Internet, and dude, I look at houses on the water, on the beach, and then I look at ranches in Montana, and then I look at farms in Tennessee, and then I look at villas in Italy, and I'm like, dude, like, what? What am I going to do? Go to all these places and like. And then you know what happens? I miss that day that I'm actually living the dream that I set for myself 20 years ago. Because I'm thinking of these other things, and that's something that we have to be cognizant of, and all of us can fall into it, including myself. And so I just want to say that because so many of you guys are stuck where you are because you're failing to make a decision about where to go next. So you got to pick a path.
Andy Frisella
Said you blamed it on social media. Knew who I think is their fault. It's Bo Jackson, bro. Bo Jackson.
DJ
Because he did everything.
Andy Frisella
You know what I'm saying? And, like. But the game's changed now. Well, you have kids now that are, like, in nine years old, and they're dedicating the rest of their life to one thing now.
DJ
Yeah, yeah. Well, I mean, look, man, everybody who's ever created big, big lies, big success, and that's a relative term, okay? But, like, look at a guy like Elon Musk. He just became the world's first trillionaire.
Andy Frisella
Yeah.
DJ
All right.
Andy Frisella
Can't even comprehend that.
DJ
No one can. Okay? But here's the thing. He didn't start out saying, hey, man, I want to go to Mars and I want to fly spaceships. And that's not what he did. He started out. He said, here's a problem, and I have a solution that doesn't exist in reality that I can build, and it can be a solution. It can make money. That company was called PayPal.
Andy Frisella
All right?
DJ
And you could argue how he got into PayPal. This.
Andy Frisella
That.
DJ
Here's the reality. He gets the credit for PayPal. That's it. Okay? Everybody's like, well, he stole the idea or he did. It doesn't matter. What matters is when people say, how did Elon get started? He created PayPal. Then he took the PayPal money. It was like 200 million bucks. Z. Look it up. It was. It was. It was a lot of money, but it wasn't a lot of money compared to what he is now. Yeah, he rolled that into other shit. So then he got here, and then he said, I want to go there. All right? And then when he got there, you know, he started to build Tesla, and, you know, then he went to these other things, and then. And that's how it goes. And that's how you end up in that life where you literally have the ultimate freedom. And I know not everybody wants to win on that level. What you got 178 million. Okay? So pretty close. 200. The. The. It compounds, okay? And I know not everybody wants that big of a life. You don't have to, but you should want a bigger life than the one you actually think you want. Because everybody's heard that saying, shoot for the moon and you'll land among the stars. There's a lot of truth to that. All right? You may not actually get to that big goal, but you might get 80% there. So you need to make sure that that goal is so big that if you only get to the 80, it's awesome.
Andy Frisella
Yeah.
DJ
All right, so these are the. The differences of how, like, the big winners think about things and how things actually materialize. And a lot of people. Back to this person's question. They spend their lives dreaming and dreaming and dreaming. You know, something I had to do that was different than, like, a lot of the younger people. Now, you know, we didn't have social media, dude. We had magazines. So, like, I'd look at magazines and I'd be like, dude, look at this house. And then I'd have to get in my car, and I'd have to, like, drive to the rich neighborhood and, like, look at it. And like, now we're just so inundated with all these things that it's almost like it becomes meaningless, and it doesn't impress you the way that it would if you actually had to go seek it out. So you have to correct this line of thinking and be able to make a decision about what you really want. But, dude, to answer this person's question, why do I think there's a big difference between what people want and how they get it? I think there's a lot of reasons why. I think those things I just said are a big reason why. Okay, the dream is too available. It's too easy to dream. And by the way, when you're bored, that's the time that you create. And so we're filling the creation time that we used to have. Like, when I was bored, I'd sit down and draw out these business plans and think about how I was going to do things. And I had time to plan out the play and. And make calls and do. Do these things actively make this happen. Now that time is just filled with more meaningless dreaming. Okay? So I'm not saying you shouldn't dream, but I'm saying you should make a decision about what the dream is and then fill that time that you waste looking at all the other dreams with a plan to create the one that you've chosen. And so I think that's a big part of it. I think the biggest part of it, though, is that there's a massive disparity between what people think it takes and what it actually takes. And I think because the Internet is so full of shit in regards to how many people pretend to win versus actually winning, that people think it's easy. And they think that, like, you know, if they don't hit a home run their first time at bat, that it wasn't meant for them. Right? If you're not driving a Lamborghini by the time you're 25, then you don't have what it takes. But you don't realize that even those people, first of all, most of those people are lying. They're renting their car. They're strategically marketing themselves in a way that makes them appear to be successful when they actually aren't. And then they sell you something which makes them a little money. We all know the game at this point. What. What happens is, is that people think they're doing it wrong. It's. It's like Earl, in the early days of fitness, before the Internet came around, the biggest product that was sold was like, lose weight quick, lose weight fast, lose weight easy. And that didn't exist at that time. That wasn't a real thing. But you could make that promise and people would buy it. And what would happen is. And this is actually the fundamental basis that our entire ecosystem and our fitness companies is based upon. What would happen is people who struggle with their weight. And if you've ever struggled with your weight, you understand what I'm about to say, they would look for this solution and then this hack and then that next solution, and they would try three or four of these weight loss solutions or these programs or these pills or this powder, and they would never lose weight. And then what ends up happening is they would just give up. And they would say, well, it's just in my genetics. And they'd start telling themselves a story about why it wouldn't happen, which actually caused them to lose all the rest of the potential for the rest of their lives of what they could live and how they could be. And that's very damaging and ethically wrong. And, you know, the whole fundamental basis. And I think the. I know the reason that we've been at the top of this game for decades now is because we actually do what we're supposed to do. We help regular people get real results. And that requires work, okay? That requires effort, that requires doing certain things. And I think we've lost that in society as a whole. I think it's coming back a little bit now because people are realizing how. How much it is. But, you know, we have so many of these people that appear to come out of nowhere, and all of a sudden they're rich. And when you have young people who are. And when I say young, I mean young in entrepreneurship, they could be 30, they could be 40, they could be 50. They're just starting out. When they see these people and they. And they go out and they try these things and they don't work, the same thing happens to them. What happens is they say after three or four things are like, well, fuck, I must not have what it takes. And it never occurs to them that they're being marketed to and they're being lied to and they're being misled, which actually causes them to give up on their dreams, which is incredibly damaging to culture and society, because that person's success would inspire so many more people in culture if they just understood the real path. And that's why I've always been so adamant about telling people the way that it really is. Even though I probably could have made way more money making it seem like it was way easier, right? But, dude, I don't feel good about that. That's not the truth. The truth is, it's hard as it takes everything you got. It's not a hobby, it's not casual. It's very intense. It's very urgent. And yes, that is not for everyone. So you should know what the you're signing up for. So there's that too. But ultimately, I think the reason that most people can't achieve their dreams, throw all that to the side. I think these are all contributing fact characters is because they don't understand that learning how to execute, having discipline, building grit, having tenacity, building resilience, perseverance, the ability to endure mental toughness. These are skill sets that you must acquire and then maintain and keep sharp throughout your life. Okay. I was just like most people for most of my life, dude. I looked at other people who had the ability to do things that were really hard for me, and I thought that they were just born that way. All right. I remember a very specific instance where I had to question this. And it's going to sound stupid when I tell you the story, but I can remember exactly where I was, dude. I had a buddy of mine, his name was Tyler. He actually has passed away now. He's.
Andy Frisella
He.
DJ
He. He something. It was a bad deal, but he passed away. We were at a. A Cardinals game at Busch Stadium, and Ty was always in really good shape, dude. He was always in great shape. And I always looked at Ty and I was like, dude, this guy's got the freakiest genetics ever. It's so easy for him. He just looks good all the time, but yet every time I went to the gym, guess who was in the gym? Oh, Ty was in the gym. So I knew that he worked out. I knew that he worked hard, But I still told myself, oh, it's his genetics. This is genetics. But it. Like, it wasn't registering to me fully, right? Like, these are just things I was telling myself ignorantly, thinking, yeah, well, I was justifying my lack of dedication to that area of my life.
Andy Frisella
Yeah.
DJ
Because I felt like if I could tell myself that story, it would make me feel better about myself. All right? And that's what everybody does. But there was this one instance, we were at a St. Louis Cardinals baseball game, and there was, like, 10 of us there, and Ty was there. And I remember he was sitting right behind me. We had, like. We had, like, five seats, and then five seats, like, behind, okay? And I look, I'm. We're all drinking beers, and, you know, I got a nachos and all the right. And I'm looking to the left and to the right, and everybody's having fun. I turn around and I look at Ty, and Ty's sitting there with a big, huge cup of water with ice in it. And then in his nacho tray was just all turkey meat. It was just all turkey meat. And I'm like, why the are you eating turkey meat, bro? Like, at a baseball game? And then it clicked in my head immediately. I'm like, damn, this is why Ty looks the way Ty looks. Okay? And then I re. Then my immediate thought was, man, that guy's man. He's got some serious discipline. I don't have that. So then I started telling myself another story. And the next story I told myself was, oh, well, he has discipline, and I just don't have it.
Andy Frisella
He wasn't born with genetics. He was born.
DJ
Dude. It took me another 10 years after that, another 10 years to figure out that this is a skill and not something you're born with. And so I think that simple acknowledgement from looking at people who have their. Together physically, financially, in their life and saying, well, they just have this discipline that I don't have. And if you could simply just shift that perspective to, They've invested in a skill set that I haven't learned yet. Just as if you would look at our friend Jamie Johnson, who is a tremendous guitar player, tremendous singer. Well, he's been doing that since he was a teenager.
Andy Frisella
Right?
DJ
Okay. So you could look at someone like that, and you could say, man, he's so gifted. But that's really kind of an insult because he's been practicing that his whole entire life, and now he's a legend, okay? If you did something for 30 years, you'd be pretty good at it, too. And that's the reality that people don't understand. They don't understand that it takes way longer than you think. It costs way more than you think in terms of effort and life. What you think is sacrifices, which are actually investments if you follow through, but also just acknowledging that the one skill that you actually lack that's keeping you from being able to go from that dream to reality, outside of just choosing what you want, is you haven't learned how to adhere to a plan, okay? Which is called discipline, all right? And once you fix that one skill set, the ability to draw out a plan and adhere to it and stick to it, now you're in a position of power, because most people can't do that. Most people lack the ability to stick to a plan long enough for the results to materialize. And if chefs did this, we'd have some shitty food, okay? Just like cooking a meal, and you go get a cookbook, and it has a set of directions. If you lack the ability to follow the directions, how's your food going to turn out? Okay? Now, if you lack the ability to follow a set of directions over the course of your life, how's your life going to turn out? It's going to turn out by circumstance. And that's why so many people think that they are not in control of what they actually do, when in reality, they're in control of all of the that matters. And we tell ourselves these stories over and over and over again about how we're not actually in control. But the truth is, you're just telling yourself that, A, because you may not have figured it out yet, or B, you don't want to actually address the problem and become the kind of person that can follow a plan. So once you. Once you sort through all of this and you say and you acknowledge, all right, man, I don't have the discipline. I don't have the grit. I don't have the mental toughness. I don't have the tenacity and the fortitude. I don't have the ability to persevere past that first punch in the face, okay? And the second and the third and the hundredth, once you acknowledge that, you could start to become that kind of person. And once you become the Kind of person that can not just follow through, but can get literally everything ripped away from them. You can lose your home, you can lose your arm. You could fucking get sick. Bad things can happen. The weather can be bad. Hurricane can come, fucking a blizzard, it doesn't matter. And you still continue to go. You cannot be fucked with. Your success becomes inevitable because you refuse to quit. Quit. And you have the skill set of following through, especially when you don't feel like it and especially when everybody else quits. And when you do that over the course of time, you end up being the person standing on the mountain when everybody else went back down. That's how it works. And there's no magic to it, dude. It's not glory. It's not. It's not romantic. It's not fun all the time. But I'll tell you what is fun. What is fun is when you can look back and you can say, I saw all this shit in my head 20 years ago. Now I'm living it. That's fun, you know? So we got to be real about what it actually takes. And you ask what keeps most people. That's what keeps most people away from it, dude. They can't acknowledge or they're ignorant to the fact that it takes a skill set that you must develop and practice and keep sharp over the course of your life to make that dream happen once you've chosen it. And this is why when people. This is why we built Live hard. This is why 75 hard exists, because it's the number one problem that keeps people from success. Okay? It's not just about getting your body in shape. It's about sharpening the skill set of discipline. And, you know, people who criticize 75 hard, they'll say things like, well, if it worked, you wouldn't have to do it twice. Well, I mean, I don't know, bro. Do you gotta take a shower every day?
Andy Frisella
Gotta wash nuts?
DJ
You know what I'm saying? Like, it's a perishable skill set. You know, you guys at the security company, you got to keep your shooting up.
Andy Frisella
Oh, yeah.
DJ
You got to practice shooting every week. If you don't shoot for four weeks, your shooting goes down. It's the same thing with musical instruments. It's the same thing with training to run a race. It's this. It's the same thing. And for some reason, society looks at these things and they think that they are traits instead of skill sets. And if you can make the mental shift and understand that your discipline is the most important thing that you can develop, and if you develop it, then keep it sharp. You are. Once you get that, dude, you're. You're not limited by anything. You're not limited by anything because it doesn't matter what happens. You're going to keep going. So, you know, that's the game, dude. And like all these hacks and, you know, everybody likes the. The story of. Oh, man. You know, I. I built this funnel and I made $10,000 today. Cool, man. What about next week? What about the next year? What do you have to sell later? Like, the whole idea of entrepreneurship has gotten so watered down and convoluted that people really don't even understand what the it is or what it takes or how hard it is or how long it is. And this is why some of the most successful people in the world, you don't even know who the they are because they're. They're understanding that they're building an actual mechanism, an actual company with enterprise value, because that's how people get wealthy. They. They build enterprise value and they sell or borrow against it, but instead they see social media as their. Their business. And it's like, yeah, that works today, but what's your mechanism? What's your machine? How's this? What are you feeding it into? Okay, and that. That's a whole nother discussion. But to answer the question, man, you got to make the shift. You got to make a choice. You got to use the time that you would think about what it is, what else you want to do. Make a choice. Take the rest of the time, build the plan. Get yourself in a position where you can execute the plan and be able to keep going longer than everybody else. And if you can do that, I always say it comes down to two things, man. It comes down to one, if you're intelligent enough to not make the same mistakes over and over again, you know, you might make the same mistake twice, but definitely don't make it three times. And also, you could develop the ability to not quit no matter what fucking happens, bro. There's nothing that can stop you. It just. You can't be stopped. You can't be stopped.
Andy Frisella
Yeah. I love it, dude. I love it, guys. Andy, question number two. Andy, I started a pressure washing company three years ago as a side hustle. I know you don't like the word side hustle, but now it's doing way more business than I ever expected, which sounds like a good problem to have. But honestly, I feel like I'm making it up as I go. I'm hiring People I've never managed before, signing contracts I've never dealt with before, and making decisions that affect other people's livelihoods. Did you ever have a period where your business was growing faster than your confidence?
DJ
This is how it works, dude. Have you not seen the meme where, like, it shows the entrepreneur standing on the cliff and he jumps off the cliff and figures out how to build the glider on the way down? Like, this is the problem that most people think. Most people think it's acquire knowledge, acquire knowledge, acquire knowledge, acquire knowledge, then go, okay, but tell me a single job that you've ever had or ever known about where you don't learn how to do the job on the job. Okay? Like, you can read the manual, you can watch the videos, you can, you know, take the training course, but until you get in the fucking game, you don't know what the fuck you're doing. Okay? So I give you massive amounts of respect because you figured out what being an entrepreneur is about, which is about going before you're ready. Okay? Most people will sit down and they will consume podcasts, and they will consume courses, and they will read all this and they will think about it, and then they'll constantly say, well, I'm not ready. I'm not ready, I'm not ready. And then all of a sudden 20 years have gone by and they're an on paper expert with $0 in the bank account, nothing to show for it. Okay, if you're such a expert and you know so much, then why the haven't you done anything? That's the truth. Okay? You have to go first and then figure it out. Do you think I knew what I was doing when I hired my first employee, or when I fired my first employee, or when I signed my first lease, or when I. I didn't know, bro, the first time a dude came in to buy a product back in 1999, the. The first real customer, not the one
Andy Frisella
I knew, not your friends.
DJ
Okay, the dude comes in. I remember it, dude. The thought never occurred to me. And I guess, you know, like we talk. The thing now is maxing, right?
Andy Frisella
That's right.
DJ
Like it's. It's. And what it mean? People think it's funny, but what they don't, they don't understand. It's. It's actually a super true concept. Okay, stop thinking about and just go fucking do it. Okay, I remember this example, dude. This dude comes in and I've told this story before. He comes in, he looks around and he's looking at the products and he goes over to this. I remember the product exactly. It's a product from a company called Muscletech, and it was a product called Celtech. The only reason that I knew that to order the product in the first place is because I went to another store and I saw that they had it. So I'm like, all right, well, we probably got to have that, too. That's how much shit I didn't know. Okay. Do you know how I came up with the first inventory list of the. Our first order? You. You want to know?
Andy Frisella
I don't know.
DJ
You know the story, Z. You never heard this?
Andy Frisella
I've never heard the story, no.
DJ
About the camera. So, dude, so I went in to. There was a. This is so kind of up. But I'm gonna tell the story. So I went in. Now, back in the day, we had these. Those little yellow Kodak cameras that were, like, disposable.
Andy Frisella
Oh, yeah.
DJ
Okay. And you wound them up, you clicked. You wind them up, you clicked. So listen, this. This would make the point. This makes the point of what I'm trying to make. I didn't even know what products to order, so I went into this supplement store that was in the gym I worked out in, and they had a. Like a laminated price list, okay? So they had all the products. And then it was a ring. There was a ring that connected, like, three pages. I took the price list, I took my camera, and I took pictures of it, okay. Because I couldn't take it home. There was no cell phone.
Andy Frisella
Yeah.
DJ
So I, like, sneakily grabbed the shit, took pictures of it, took the thing to fucking Walmart, got the fucking list developed, and then those are the products I ordered.
Andy Frisella
That's crazy.
DJ
That's how I started the. That's how I knew what to order. Okay.
Andy Frisella
That's incredible.
DJ
So. So listen. So this guy comes into the store and he's looking at this product called Cell Tech. And I'm like, he. And, bro, this didn't even occur to me. Like, I hadn't even. You want to talk about retard maxing, bro? I was the biggest maxer there ever was. I was the OG of it.
Andy Frisella
You maxed out.
DJ
All I knew was that I'm doing it. Yeah, that's it, dude. And that's all you got to know, by the way. So this guy comes in, and it never occurred to me that, like, I should probably, like, know all these products. Okay, dude, seriously, man. It never even occurred to me. So this guy comes in, he looks at the product, and I remember it was over on the right side of the store and I was behind the counter and he had to go around the left to get out. And the guy, the guy walks in and he's like, he picks up the cell tech and he's looking, he's like, what's this do? And I'm like. And it dawned on me, I'm like, oh, like I don't fucking know. So I like, nonchalantly, like, walked around the counter and like, acted like I was gonna just come out there and talk to him. And I picked it up, I turned it around and I said, well, it says here. And I just started reading the. That it said on the label, dude. And one of the things that said on the label, because it had creatine in it, it said, gain seven pounds in seven days. And I said, dude, seven pounds in seven days sounds pretty good to me. Like that, like, yes, dude, that's where I started. And he bought it.
Andy Frisella
That's beautiful.
DJ
Okay, but like this, the point I'm making here is that the difference between people who do and people who don't is people that have the courage to just go or the ignorance to go without having to know everything. Okay. And dude, you know, so when you say, oh, you know, like, I first time I hired, I didn't know what. No, yeah, like you're not going to know anything the first time you do it. And by the way, that's how you learn, okay? You're gonna hire the wrong person, they're gonna you over, you're gonna recognize why. And then the next time that same kind of person comes around, you're going to be able to be like, oh, I remember what happened last time. And you're not going to do that. When you sign a contract and you don't read the whole thing and then all of a sudden it creates a. A big fiasco. Then the next time, which by the way, all this shit's happened to me, the next time's going to come through, you're like, well, I better read the contract. And then you're going to see that little part that you over. And you're going to be like, no, not doing that. Okay? And then it's all these little lessons compounded over and over and over and over again to give you the skill set. And this is why people are have it wrong. They're so afraid to make mistakes. Not realizing that the mistakes are what creates the wisdom that 10, 15 years down the road allow you to become a super effective operator and business owner. All right, so yes, I've been there. Yes, I understand what that is. And yes, every single person that's ever built anything significant did not know what the they were doing when they started. Dude, they just had balls and they had courage and they said, I'm doing this. And they went and figured it out. And they didn't give a. If people made fun of them. They didn't give a shit if they look stupid or they stumble or they made mistakes. They didn't care because they had made a decision about what they were going to do, and they said they figured it the out. And right now we deal in this. In this. In this era where there's so much information and so many different opinions, which, by the way, 99 of the opinions are from people who have never done anything. All right, this is why I'm so hard on these guru people on the Internet. You should not listen to anybody who hasn't built something real that you can see. If you can't see it, you shouldn't listen to them because it's marketing. A lot of these people will say, oh, I built this and this and this and this and this, but you never see it. How come. What benefit do they get from hiding what they built from you? If they were trying to sell coaching and trying to help people and show people, wouldn't it make sense for them to show all the shit that they've built and, like, make it open to the public to see? How could that hurt them? It could only hurt them if it wasn't true. And we have to get. We have to become more intelligent about who we're listening to when it comes to these opinions about success. You know, Ed Mylett and I, who have both built multiple companies, big ones, we have this group called Arete Syndicate, where we coach other entrepreneurs. I. I did my call two nights ago, and one of the questions that was in the call was this woman who's been in the group for a long time. She said, well, I'm listening to this person, and they're saying, do this. And then this person, and they're saying, to do this. And then this person, and they're saying, to do this. And she's like, I don't know who to listen to. I'm like, because you're listening to too many people, bro. Okay, when you get on an NFL team, you listen to your coach. You don't call the coaches in the other team and say, what the do I do? They're all going to tell you some other. Okay, you have to make a decision. About whose information you're going to listen to. And by the way, there's probably five people on the Internet that are actually real entrepreneurs who have proven time and time and time and time again that they understand how to win. Pick one of them and listen to what they say. And everybody else don't listen to it, because it's just going to get you frozen with, you know, the paradox of choice. The paradox of choice is basically when you present someone with too much information, they choose nothing. Okay? Like, if.
Andy Frisella
Too many options.
DJ
If I have product A, B, C, D, E, F, G, and. And I show them all to someone, people can't choose. But if I have A and B, they can make a real choice. So think about that in terms of your information that you're consuming. You have person one, person two, person three, person four, all the way to person 50. And you're trying to figure out who's telling what, bro. Pick the most credible, listen to what they say, and your chances of a positive outcome go up exponentially, and you won't get frozen by the overwhelming amount of choices that you have. So to answer the question, dude, yeah, that's how entrepreneurship works. You figure it out as you go. That's how it works.
Andy Frisella
Did you. Did you learn? Like, what did you do after the Celtec situation?
DJ
I fucking learned. I figured out, like, oh, well, I better learn this shit. So I. I mean, dude, we only saw one customer a day, if we were lucky back then. Yeah. So I spent the rest of my time literally going around and reading all the labels and reading the. The. Listen, man, you got to understand, the Internet wasn't a thing. There was no. Like, I couldn't go on the Internet and, like, find out. It wasn't like that. There was. It was like, email. Like, there was email, but, like, there was chat forums, but, like, you don't know who the. You're talking to. So I went around and I fucking. I. I started reading all the shit, and then the shit that I didn't know, I would go get books. I buy books on the topic and read about that part of it that I didn't know. And I accumulated all the knowledge, you know, and over the course of 10 years of doing that, I became a very knowledgeable person about these things. You know, I surrounded myself like, dude, I get on the phone with people. I would call people who were PhDs in these things, and I would ask for an hour of their time, and I would have a discussion, and they, you know, and back then, people would just tell you yeah.
Andy Frisella
Way more accessible, ironically, way more people will make way more.
DJ
Well, now everybody's, you know, they want to. They want to posture and they want to charge and, you know, but like, bro, you got to remember, like, the. These guys who were running these studies and back then, no one gave a about them. These are just dudes sitting in their office running studies on, you know, muscle protein synthesis and, you know, fat loss and, like, all these different things. So, like, I figure out where the they were, and I'd call them on the phone.
Andy Frisella
They were probably excited.
DJ
Yeah. Yes. Yes.
Andy Frisella
Yeah.
DJ
And so I just did what I had to do to talk to credible people to. To increase what I knew. And then, you know, after a number of years, you know, the next day, the next day anymore, next six months, I knew more. The next three years, I knew a lot more. And after 10 years, I knew what the. I needed to know.
Andy Frisella
Yeah, but you went, yeah, I love it, dude. I love it, guys. Andy, our third and final question. Andy, question number three. Andy. I'm 31 and I recently went through a rough stretch. Work was stressful, money was tight, and there was some family stuff going on all at the same time. What bothered me wasn't the situation. It was how I handled it. I got short with people. I stopped taking care of myself and basically abandoned every habit I'd built. It made me realize that when life gets hard, I become a completely different person. So how do you build the kind of character that doesn't disappear the second things get difficult?
DJ
Well, you got to invest in building yourself into that kind of person. That's what we talk about with Livhart. Okay. If you could only operate when everything's good. I hate to break it to you, but you're not going to be able to operate most of the time as an entrepreneur, because most of the time as an entrepreneur, shit's burning the fuck down. Even whenever everybody's smiling and they're pretending it's good, there's so much bad shit happening that you're trying to solve, you're not going to be able to be effective. So you have to understand, and you already do, you've already learned the lesson. Understand this. By you asking the question, you already have figured out the answer. Most people would not have the awareness to understand that I need to fix how I reacted in this scenario. So the next time I don't react that way, that's a. That's a pretty high level of awareness that most people do not have. So having that level of awareness and is a very good Sign that you have what it takes to be successful long term. You had a problem, you had a situation. Which by the way, every entrepreneur goes through this like they have life too, man. Like people get sick, their dogs get sick, they get in car accidents, bad happens, the economy changes. Think, you know, dude, I couldn't. You could go on and on and on and on and on. The secret to being a great operator is that you have to be able to operate effectively at a high level when is not going well. And so if you're someone who can only operate when things are going well, you're going to get killed by everybody else that can operate no matter what. So by the way, there's very few people like that. But it can be built, it can be trained, it can be acquired by intentionally building yourself to be a disciplined, high functioning, high, high executing, diligent human being when things are hard. This is the live hard lifestyle, bro. This is what it's about, okay? People are like, well, what? Can't I just do two workouts outside or inside because it's raining? When do you think it's going to be perfect outside? You only going to go out and work out when it's perfect? You're supposed to do things when it's inconvenient. The more times you do things when it's inconvenient, the better it makes you doing it when it's convenient. And it gives you an advantage because everybody else is staying inside when the fucking weather's bad too, right? So every day, and let's just break this in the business, every time life happens to a mediocre or bad entrepreneur, what happened to you happens to them. And they fucking give up. They quit. They go down the rails. They fucking quit all their good habits, they lose all their momentum. A great entrepreneur, someone who consistently wins over and over and over again, they do the opposite. They see these opportunities of hardship as times to get ahead, understanding that everybody else is quitting when these times come. So they actually get excited when these things start to punch them. When these bad things start to happen, they say, yeah, that bring that the on, bro, you ain't breaking me. And that's the mentality difference. That mentality comes from you pushing through these things over and over and over again to the point where you trust yourself that it doesn't really matter what's coming your way. Now are there exceptions that are going to derail you in your life? Yeah, man, you're going to go through some really fucking hard shit.
Andy Frisella
You're 31, right?
DJ
But yeah, what better reason to train yourself to handle that shit now? So then when it does come, and there is a lot on the line, you can keep your shit together when you know everybody else is quitting. Every single successful that I consider successful entrepreneur operates at a high level. No matter what's happening around them, okay, if they get derailed, if they get bad press, if something happens, a natural disaster, it doesn't matter, their still gets done at a high level. And oftentimes at a higher level when things are challenging because they understand that this is a test that they have to pass in order to keep the space between everybody else. You're not the only that bad shit's gonna happen to you. It's gonna happen to all your competitors, it's gonna happen to everybody that you know you're in business against. And you want to be the person that when that happens, you can push right through it. And knowing that every single time they don't, you're gaining more market share, you're gaining more momentum, you're gaining more ground. That's the game. That's how people start out at zero with, you know, let's say a hundred other competitors. And then at year five, you know, these people have gone through hard times and there might be 50 left. At year 10, there's more hard times and then there might be 10 left and at year 20, there's 2 left and you're winning and everybody else is out of the game. And that's how it works, dude. So training yourself to be one of these people who could push through these difficult times is not a nice thing to have. It's a requirement of long term success. And all you have to do is realize that most of the things that affect your outcomes are always in your control. Okay, yeah, people are gonna you over. Yeah. Bad things are gonna happen. Yeah, you're gonna have a bad idea. Yeah. The market's gonna shift. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But at the end of the day, you could control what you drink, what you eat, the information you put in your mind, who you associate with, all of these, how you move your body. These are the things that create the most effective weapon, which is you. You're the weapon that allow you to push through. So even when there's total chaos in your life, if you can still stay in control of the things that are in your control, you will keep the momentum moving forward while everybody else falls off. Most people will never understand this. Most people will go through a time like this person just said, and they will say Ah, well, you know what? I got divorced, my house burnt down, the economy shifted and they'll just quit. They just quit out of my control.
Andy Frisella
Okay?
DJ
Yeah, they'll just quit, dude. And like that's not how it works. Those are the times that it's most important to get dialed the in and make sure that you keep whatever the you can and keep moving forward. And that's the difference between people who win and people who lose. That's the difference between average and great. That's the difference between, you know, looking at the menu your whole entire life and worrying about what the fuck you can order and paying for your entire company and not giving a fuck what it costs. Like, that's the difference. Can you push through the hard? Can you push through the hard? That is so hard that you know that every single besides you is quitting. If you become that person, you are literally unstoppable. Unstoppable. So like, that's the game, dude. How can you become that person? Well, you become that person by living a disciplined lifestyle. And every single time that one of these tests come your way, you don't look at it as a tragedy. You don't look at it as. And it might be, it might be, but you got to close that gap between that sulking and that why me and God hates me and all this, that we all think when things get hard, you got to close that gap and say it, it is what it is. And I got to move forward from here. And if you can close that gap and keep going, you're going to win. Most people can't close the gap ever. Most people would have got stabbed in the face at 23 years old like I did and then told a story their whole life about how they got stabbed in the face. It would be the most significant thing that ever happened to them. And their complete story and excuse for why the they're sitting on a bar stool at three o' clock in the afternoon on a Tuesday not doing with their life. That would be their entire identity. Oh man, you know, I got stabbed in the fucking fit. And like, bro, like I did that for a year, by the way. Like I made up was a year. Yeah, it took me a year. But now, now I understand how to fucking minimize that gap. And you know, some people will say, and I've been told this, they'll say, well, you lack empathy. No, it's not that I lack empathy. It's not that I don't understand, it's that I understand that if I sit in that spot, it's going to ruin everything. So I have to accept it and move forward immediately. Things that are out of your control are out of your control. You could sit there and you can cry and you can whine and you can go to therapy and you could talk about healing and all this, but at the end of the day, bro, eventually you got to move past it. And that's why I have this big problem with the therapy industry. They want people to sit in this for years and years and years and years and years and convince people that they're up because of something that happened to them and it keeps them from moving past it.
Andy Frisella
Yeah.
DJ
Like, bro, you can't move past something that you constantly revisit over and over and over and over and over again and build your identity around. You can't become a non victim. If your whole identity is there's something wrong with me or something bad happened to me, Something bad happens to everyone. The point is, how do I overcome that and how do I win in spite of that so that other people who have gone through similar things can be inspired to get past that? It's always the people too, that the shit really isn't that bad. Okay. When you see people. One of my favorite examples is a race car driver I mentioned here on the show before, Alex Zanardi. He recently passed away. He was in a fucking wreck where he lost both his legs in a race, okay. He was one of the best race car drivers in the world. It. This guy went on to become a champion wheelchair racer, okay. Then he got back into. Into racing cars again and he won more trophies at racing cars with no legs. When you. The people who face the hardest hardships, they don't have a choice but to accept it. There's no therapy to regrow your legs yet.
Andy Frisella
Yeah.
DJ
So it is what the it is.
Andy Frisella
Yeah.
DJ
Okay. Like you don't have legs now. Now what? And if you could close that gap and dude, you know, this is like a real thing. The people with real. That happens to them, they don't have a choice but to accept it. The people who have false victim, they can wallow in it because it's not something that they have to accept. Right? So they get to. They get to like tell a story and create identity and like, you know, poor me, poor me, poor me. Not realizing that they're gonna waste their whole life stuck in that cage. They created a person who gets in a car wreck and loses both their legs. They know that their legs ain't coming back. Yeah, like they're not coming Back, bro.
Andy Frisella
Gotta keep moving.
DJ
Okay, so what the we gonna do, right? So the harder the situation, the bigger punch, the more likely people accept it and move on because there's no other option. You see what I'm saying?
Andy Frisella
Absolutely, dude.
DJ
So we got a big problem with this victim mentality in the world. Like, it's not like I'm minimizing the bad that's happened to you, but if you're being real about it, dude, there's been people that have had a million times worse happen to them who have gone on to do exactly what it is you want to do and more because they accepted the reality of their situation very quickly and went forward anyway. And those are the stories that matter. No one wants to hear your whining, bro. No one wants to hear your sad story. There's so many sad stories. No. Yeah, you might get some claps and you might get some likes, and you might get some attention on the Internet, but at the end of the day, that's. That's the. That hurts other people because they see someone who might have went through a similar situation that they went through, and they see this person wallowing in it and creating this victim identity and building this. You know, I'm a victim and this is why I can't do this. And then they think that's how they should behave, when in reality, what would serve them better is if you were to do something like this. Hey, all this bad happened to me, but guess what? I still went on to do this and this and this and this and this. That's inspiring. Those are the important stories. So which one of those stories are you gonna tell about yourself? Because one is very selfish and the other one helps a lot of.
Andy Frisella
I love it, dude. I love it, man. Guys. Andy, that was three, dog.
DJ
All right, well, we'll see you tomorrow.
Andy Frisella
Yeah, buddy.
DJ
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REAL AF with Andy Frisella
Episode 1036: Q&AF: Potential Vs Execution, Handling Rapid Growth & Becoming Mentally Tough
Date: June 15, 2026
Host: Andy Frisella | Co-host: DJ
In this Q&AF episode, Andy and DJ tackle three core listener questions diving deep into:
Their candid, no-BS style delivers practical advice, personal stories, and actionable mindset shifts for anyone pursuing personal excellence, entrepreneurship, or mental toughness.
(Start – 30:28)
The Awareness Trap:
Many people are acutely aware of "what they could be," but far fewer actually bridge that vision with concrete action.
“If you're so in love with this idea of the ultimate version of yourself ... How much regret do you actually think you're going to feel if you don't go out and build it?” —DJ (06:00)
Paralysis by Infinite Possibility:
Social media makes it easy to fixate on alternate lives and endless options, which prevents people from choosing a single path.
“We're so busy watching everybody else live their lives that we have a hard time choosing. … You got to pick a path.” —Andy (09:00)
The Bo Jackson Myth:
The rare people who have it all (e.g., Bo Jackson) shouldn’t set the standard; most success comes from making a choice and doubling down on it.
The Danger of Instant Gratification:
The internet glamorizes quick wins and overnight success, warping expectations and fostering discouragement as soon as difficulty arises.
“...people think they're doing it wrong ... [when] success requires... doing certain things. And I think we've lost that in society...” —Andy (13:00–15:00)
Discipline Is a Learnable Skill, Not a Trait:
The key mental shift is seeing discipline, grit, and resilience as skills you deliberately build through reps and practice.
“It took me another ten years after that … to figure out that this is a skill and not something you're born with.” —DJ (22:24)
Unlearning the Victim Stories & Excuses:
Many people justify lack of results by blaming circumstances or genetics, when what truly separates winners is the willingness to endure, persist, and follow through on a plan.
“...most people lack the ability to stick to a plan long enough for the results to materialize.” —Andy (23:05)
Notable Moment:
Andy’s baseball game story about ‘Ty’ who demonstrated true discipline by bringing a healthy meal instead of indulgences, debunking the myth of "born discipline".
Memorable Quote:
“Once you become the kind of person that can not just follow through but can get literally everything ripped away from them ... and you still continue to go, you cannot be fucked with.” —Andy (24:50)
Key Segment:
(30:28–43:56)
Imposter Syndrome Is Normal in Entrepreneurship:
Real entrepreneurs always feel behind the learning curve, growing into responsibilities and learning on the go.
“Have you not seen the meme where the entrepreneur’s on the cliff and he jumps off the cliff and figures out how to build the glider on the way down?” —DJ (31:03)
Action Before Knowing Everything:
Most people get stuck acquiring knowledge, waiting for perfect readiness and thereby never starting.
“You have to go first and then figure it out.” —Andy (32:44)
Learning by Doing (and Screwing Up):
Andy shares how he built his supplement store: copying inventory lists via disposable Kodak camera, reading product labels aloud to customers, and making product recommendations by literally reading the label on the spot.
“I was the OG of [retard] maxing. All I knew was that I’m doing it.” —Andy (35:29)
“…You're not going to know anything the first time you do it. And by the way, that's how you learn.” —Andy (36:40)
Mistakes as the Foundation of Wisdom:
Every failed hire, contract mishap, or decision gone wrong is what creates the operational wisdom 10–15 years down the line.
Information Overload & Paradox of Choice:
Listening to too many sources leads to inaction. Pick a handful who have truly done the thing you want, and shut out the rest.
“Pick the most credible, listen to what they say, and your chances of a positive outcome go up exponentially, and you won’t get frozen by the overwhelming amount of choices that you have.” —Andy (41:04)
Growth is Iterative:
Knowledge snowballs with years of action, mistakes, calls with experts, and study.
Key Segment:
(43:56–End)
When Things Go Bad, Most People Quit:
Greatness is defined by those who keep moving forward when everything goes wrong—job, money, family, health, etc.
“If you could only operate when everything’s good... you’re not going to operate most of the time as an entrepreneur.” —Andy (44:37)
Awareness as a Starting Point:
Recognizing your subpar response under stress is a huge advantage. Most people never get that self-aware.
“By you asking the question, you already have figured out the answer.” —Andy (44:37)
Developing the “Bring it On” Mindset:
Resilient people reframe hard times as opportunities to widen the gap versus competition, knowing that most others will use adversity as an excuse to fall off.
“The secret to being a great operator is ... to be able to operate effectively at a high level when shit is not going well.” —Andy (46:00)
Habits and Self-Control as Anchors:
On the worst days, people who stick to habits like working out, eating right, controlling inputs, and focusing on controllables maintain momentum while others spiral.
Victim vs Victor Identity:
Don’t let bad things happening create your identity. The world only cares about your ability to overcome.
“You cannot become a non-victim if your whole identity is ‘something’s wrong with me or something bad happened to me.’ … What would serve you better is: ‘All this bad shit happened, but guess what, I still went on to do this and this and this.’ That’s inspiring.” —Andy (56:41)
Notable Moment:
Andy uses the story of Alex Zanardi, a race car driver who lost both legs in an accident but became a champion wheelchair racer and resumed car racing—demonstrating the “accept and adapt” principle at its extreme.
Memorable Quote:
“Most people would have got stabbed in the face at 23 years old like I did and then told a story their whole life about how they got stabbed in the face. … But now ... I understand how to fucking minimize that gap.” —Andy (51:15)
Key Segment:
On Discipline as a Skill:
“It took me another ten years after that... to figure out that this is a skill and not something you’re born with.” —DJ (22:24)
On Entrepreneurship:
“You have to go first and then figure it out.” —Andy (32:44)
On Handling Hardship:
“Every single successful that I consider successful entrepreneur operates at a high level no matter what’s happening around them.” —Andy (48:13)
On Victimhood:
“No one wants to hear your whining, bro. … That’s the shit that hurts other people … What would serve them better is: ‘Hey, all this bad shit happened to me, but guess what? I still went on to do this and this and this and this.’ That’s inspiring.” —Andy (56:41)
This episode dispels the myths of overnight success and effortless achievement, demanding that listeners get real about the necessity of discipline, persistent action, and resilience. Andy and DJ peel away excuses, urging everyone to:
The path to greatness isn’t secret, just harder and longer than it looks online.
Recommendation:
For anyone stalling on dreams, struggling amidst chaos, or overwhelmed by information, this episode delivers a powerful, practical call to action and accountability.
Timestamps for Important Segments
Tone: Direct, no-nonsense, motivational, occasionally brash—exactly as Andy and DJ deliver on every episode.