
On today's episode, Andy & DJ are joined in the studio by UFC & ONE Championship legend Demetrious "Mighty Mouse" Johnson. They discuss Trump thanking Biden for a smooth transition during the White House meeting, Ray J claiming celebs told him...
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Yeah, Went from sleeping on the floor now my jury box froze up Bo stove counted millions in a cold bad booted swole Got her own bank roll can't fold Just a no headshot case clothes.
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What is up, guys? It's Andy Frisella, and this is the show for the Realist. Say goodbye to the lies, the fakeness and delusions of modern society, and welcome to reality, guys. Today we have Andy and DJ Cruise the Internet. That's what we're going to do. That's what CTI stands for. It stands for Cruise the Internet. We're going to put topics on the screen. We're going to speculate on what's true and what's not true. And then we're going to talk about how we the people solve these problems going on in the world. And there are plenty other times when you tune into the show. We're going to have shows within the show. We're going to have Q and A. That's where you submit questions and we give you the answers. Now, you can submit your questions a couple different ways. The first way is, guys, you can.
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All right. What's up, dude?
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What's going on, man?
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What you doing?
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I'm all right.
B
Yeah?
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Yeah. It's a little darker in here.
B
Oh, is it about one more? Why is that?
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We got a special guest, man.
B
Yeah, you want to bring them on?
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We got killer in here, man.
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Yeah, we do two killers now. We got. Oh. Oh, yeah. Who's the other one?
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What's going on, man? We got Mighty Mouse in the house.
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Yeah. Demetrius Johnson.
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What's going on, boys?
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What's up, brother? How are you?
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Good. I'm good. I'm good. We almost got in a fight here, you know, like five minutes ago. I'm glad everybody's. Calm down, calm down. Attention has de. Escalated.
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Yeah, we almost had a race war.
C
Oh, dude, thanks for having me, man.
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Yeah, brother.
C
Be here, man. And shoot the.
B
Yeah. So if you guys. I mean, if everybody knows Demetrius, but if you don't know Demetrius, he is probably the most accomplished, if not, you know, the biggest legend in UFC history. Flyweight champ, 11 title defenses, one champ as well.
C
Yep.
B
Right. Are you still fighting, or is it.
C
I'm officially retired.
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Are you?
C
I'm officially retired.
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Okay. Well, that's a good career to stand on, bro.
C
Yeah. Thanks, man. Thanks. It was a long career, and I felt I was at a point in my career where I just wasn't having as much fun competing.
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Yeah.
C
You know, when you do it for so long, you typically, when you're going to fight, it's always focused on getting ready for the fight. I've always enjoyed the process. I've always enjoyed learning. But, you know, when it came time to fight inside the cage, octagon ring, wherever it may be, like after my last one, which was in Denver, Colorado. Excuse me. I had my kids, my Wife there. I fought, and after I got in that fight and I was like, damn, this is all life is. It's just me fighting and collecting a check. I was like, I want to do something, I need to do something more. So I took a year off just to, like, see if I would miss it, you know, I still kept training. I kept on working out, but no sparring. And came one time, I was like, you know, I don't miss it. I think I'm done.
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Yeah.
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I think I'm going to focus on Brazilian Jiu jitsu and Nagi, and that's been like, my saving grace. And so. Yeah, so no more getting a punch or punching people in the face.
B
Yeah, that's cool, man. Well, listen, you did plenty of it, and you did it very well.
C
Yeah, right?
B
Yeah. Nobody could take that from you.
C
I did have ass kicking in my days.
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That's right.
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18 years of my career. So I think it's fine just to relax and chill and focus on different things and build my brand and just enjoy life.
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Yeah. Now. Now you're married and you have kids.
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I'm married. I have three kids. 11, nine and six.
B
That's awesome.
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Two boys and one girl.
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That's awesome, dude.
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It's a good spread. I mean, what was that transition like, man? Because, like, that, I don't feel like that's something you hear a lot just in the MMA world of, like, you know, guys who dedicate all that time to fighting, and then you got to, like, transition and, like, you're not having to, like, punch for money no more like, like, what's that transition like, man?
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Yeah, I mean, I think it was two, two ways to answer that question. One, the transition of not going to the gym, spending two hours of commute, being a gym all damn day, learning, you know, new techniques, what this guy does well, but he doesn't do well. That's amazing. I get all that time back, right? You know, the time away from the family is stuff you just can't get fucking back.
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Yeah.
C
I mean, I was always involved in my family's, my children's life, even in training camp. Right. Like, after I, you know, I never forget after I beat him, Cejudo, I was like, I had to get back fucking home because the HOA is on my ass.
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You let those trash cans out?
C
Yeah. I got to go wash this motherfucking fence. So I'll be in Vegas one night, knock him into hood out, and the next day I'm back home. So I've always been that type of person. In my career. So when it was time for me to like, okay, I'm done fighting, I'm not going to collect a check from fighting anymore. It was almost easy to lead that, to lead that space. But as far as the financial side of it, you know, I gave myself a year. And through my whole time career, I've always been building different companies and help elevate the companies and align myself with great companies. And so once I said, okay, I'm gonna give myself a year, I need to start using my intelligence and my brand to bring in money like I have to, because I only can fight for so long. And if I stop fighting when 38, I'm hoping, I'm hoping I live to like 92. Grandma's 91. So 92. And if I can make it to 92, that's from 38 to 92. That's a long fucking span of period of, bro, you gotta make money. No, it doesn't matter how much money you made in mixed martial arts unless you're making like 50 million to fight, which ain't nobody.
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Yeah.
C
I've ever met made that much. You got to figure out how you make money. And so for me, I gave myself a year. I was, okay, I'm going to see if I miss it because I don't want to be the athlete that retires and goes, I'm coming back. Coming back. I was like, I'm giving myself a year. Lay low, start working like, the YouTube, the podcast, all that stuff, working on businesses. And when that year came up, I was like, okay, I'm self sustaining. I made some great investments early in my career and everything's growing and I'm. I'm enjoy doing it. And so I was like, all right, I think I'm. I think I'm done. You never know when you truly. Because you're always grinding, you're always gonna grind because it's who you are. It's just who I am.
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Yeah.
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I told my wife, I was like, man, when I tell him, I wake up, I'm gonna do what the I want and play video games. She goes, you are not. Yeah, stop lying to yourself. And here I am traveling more than ever, busier more than ever. And. And we don't like to say busy. I'd say we're being very productive with our time, bro.
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That's. First of all, I love that. I love that whole thing. First of all, people forget that guys like you are just regular dudes, bro, that, you know, you got to go home and you got to do the house stuff and the husband stuff and, you know, those things. And I think that's super cool that you acknowledge that. But, dude, you said something in there that is so important, especially for the younger people. You know, we're inundated with, you know, the flash and, and the, the big money and the big baller when we're young, right. And we have all these kids now that are in their 20s and. And dude, they're doing all these things to try and make a little money. Right, I get it, because I was the same way.
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Yep.
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But what we do have to understand as men, especially if we're going to be the provider, is that, bro, this game is long. This game is so long. And no matter how much money you're making right now, it ain't enough. It just isn't. And, like, people don't understand that. They think, oh, I'm going to get to 40 and I'm going to make, you know, $5 million and retire. It's like, no, you fucking ain't. Yeah, yeah. Like, dude, we're going to live a long time. So I think it's a, you know, you making that point to the, to the young bucks here is a super big point, dude.
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Well, nobody. Nobody talks about that.
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Well, that's why we see people on 30 for 30 being like, oh, I spent my last 50 grand on a fucking Hummer.
C
Yeah.
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You know, like, yeah.
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Think it's very taboo in mixed martial arts, and I think in any sport, right? I think even in not just mixed martial arts, you look at NBA, NFL, hockey, whatever it may be, nobody truly comes out and says, like, okay, man, like, this is what I made. This is what I made in my career. And I put, you know. You know, I remember Kobe Bryant, he came and talked to us before he. He passed away, and he was like, yeah, you know, I. I took some of the money that I made from the NBA and I invested in Vitamin Water. That turned out to be great. And you have some athletes do that, but that's the cream of the fucking crop for sure. He was like, yeah, I invest like 5 million in vitamin. I was like, yeah, we don't even make 5 million as an athlete. So we really couldn't relate. But I think it's very important to be upfront with a lot of athletes and be like, dude, like, you gotta invest your money because you only. All it takes is one acl. One wrong hit in the NFL. Wrong, wrong, you know? Oh. Oh, blew my acl. You're never going to be the Exact same. And we've seen athletes like, I think Derrick Rose, he tore his Achilles tenon, I believe. He was never the same. And luckily he was a basketball player, he made great money. But in mixed martial arts, you could be on like a five fight win streak making, you know, let's just say, I don't know, 100 a show, 100 wins, you make $200,000, so you win five times. So that's a million dollars if my math's correct. You guys can correct me in the comments below if my math was wrong. Do you get it? Taking taxes, there's 20% and there's, you know, you're at 800,000, 20% to your, your management, so another 20,000. So you're at what, $600,000 after $400,000 is gone. Okay. And then let's say you fucking lose. So you're at $600,000. You're not going to get the same type of velocity of money coming in right at the time. And a lot of people don't recognize that. And like you said, all they do is see the flash, the flare, the nice cars, the girls, the social media. But social media, like I would love when one day goes, hey, just got my check, I'm going to go to the fucking bank, I'm going to deposit it and I'm going to let it sit there and I'm going to start investing my money into, you know, S&P 500 or the Dow industry or you know, the Triple Q. I think there needs to be more of that shown on social media and talked about, but nobody likes that stuff. That's boring. It's not sexy.
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Yeah, but it's the stuff that works, dude.
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I mean, even thinking about like, we're talking about young athletes too, the nil deals.
C
Oh yeah.
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I mean, that's a whole. I've always been like a staunch, like against it for many different reasons and not because I don't feel like young kids should have it. Like, yeah, they're athletes, they're working their ass off, you know, the likeness and I get it.
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Cool.
C
Yep.
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But to give, you know, a 17 year old, 18 year old who a couple of weeks ago had to raise their hand to go to the bathroom, access to hundreds of thousands of dollars with zero oversight. It's irresponsible, man. It's irresponsible and I feel like there has to be a better way.
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Well, bro, I was talking to, do you, do you, you know Demarco Farr?
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Yeah.
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Okay, so Demarco, when he was here in St. Louis. We were good buddies. I haven't spoken to him in a few years. DeMarco far used to be detachable for the Rams when the Rams were here in St. Louis. And the super bowl champ, awesome dude. Awesome dude. Played up in Washington.
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Oh, really?
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Yeah.
C
Okay.
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We were. We were. Him and I were out to eat one time. We started talking about, like, the rookie symposium and what they teach these guys. He's like, bro, they don't teach him nothing. They don't teach him any financial. They, they try to, but the guys aren't listening because they're young and they got big money and they think they're the first young guys that got big money. And, you know, they're warning them about these girls. Like, guys, these girls are going to come try to take your. And. And none of them listen because they think they're the exception. You know, part of it is just a young man's ego, you know what I'm saying?
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And financial literacy, right? Teaching, like, it all starts at home, right? But then again, you gotta. I didn't come from money, right? My mom, single parent death, you know, she lived off of child support checks. You know, I remember every single month, she was like, well, we made another month, all the child support checks came in. And so that kind of like hit me like, okay, so we're living off child support. Luckily, you know, at this time in my life, I never met my dad. My brother's dad, he paid. And then also when my sister started to come live with us, then that's when her dad started to pay. So we're living month to month, paycheck to paycheck. And so for me, I never got that flashy and all that stuff. So when I was fighting UFC, you know, I'll make what I made, 5,000 to show 5,000 win. Being Kei Yamamoto, I was still working full time. So all that money went straight to the bank. Straight to the bank until I started fighting. When I fought Dominic Cruz for 14,000 a show, 14,000 to win. I lost that fight. That's when I finally quit. My day job was okay, I'm gonna try to take this serious. I'm gonna try to take this, you know, this mixed martial arts stuff serious. But, you know, when it comes to the nil deals. Yeah, like, you're giving a kid six figures who. You know, it can go two ways. It can be a guy who goes, man, I'm bowing out, man, I'm. I got my girl. Or it can go like, I've been Raised by, I've been shown what you can do with money. I'm gonna use it as a tool to better my life and to then, you know, it's two spectrum, the same thing. You know, people do drugs and like, fuck, go off the deep end or some guys can do drugs. Like it's a tool for me to help me sleep. It's a tool for me just to relax and decompress or, you know, calm my anxiety. So it's too, There is, there is.
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There is some truth to that, dude. It's like, it's like the kid who grows up with an alcoholic parent, right?
C
Yep.
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Like you either become an alcoholic because your dad was an alcoholic or you become sober because your dad was an.
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Alcoholic 1000% or then you, like. For me, me and my wife, we don't drink alcohol anymore, but because she, one of our kids made a comment and I don't really drink as much, but my wife, she would have a couple beverages more than another. And she comes from an alcohol family. Her dad was an alcoholic, but he's sober for 25 years. And my oldest son made a comment one day and she was like, fuck, is that how he views me when I pick up a drink? And so we just, we don't need alcohol anymore. But prior to when he sees me drink or even my wife, it's, we're relaxing. It's like we earn this drink. You guys got your clothes, your fed house, the lights are on, everything's good. I'm gonna have myself a beverage. But now we don't, we just drink anymore because we want, we don't want the kids to grow up in a society where it's like, oh, we're gonna celebrate. Let's have a beer. Let's have a shot.
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Yeah, right.
C
It's, it's totally different. So. But I agree with you. Like, yeah, if you, if you're around it and you see it, then they're like, oh, you're either going to be a non alcoholic or you're going to be alcoholic. Because my dad used it. That's what he did when he had a hard time. So I'm going to use it. I'm having a hard time.
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Alcohol culture is a weird thing, dude.
C
It is, it really is. It really is.
B
Yeah, it's like, you know, I'm, I'm gonna celebrate. What? First of all, because most people, they say that they're celebrating, but what are you celebrating? Another, usually another week of mediocrity. That's what you're celebrating. And the Fact that we would reward ourselves with something that's so harmful for our minds and our bodies, you know, and, dude, I'm not judging because I live my whole life like that. I come from alcohol culture. I still like to have some beers and hang out with the dudes. I'm not being overly judgy. I'm just saying it's interesting when you think about it.
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Yep.
B
You know, I have definitely drastically cut down what I drink. I. I haven't had hard liquor with the exception of one time since 2018, and it was one shot for the celebrating the life of a buddy of mine who passed away, so that was it. And. But, you know, drink beer. I, like, smoke weed.
C
Yeah.
B
You know, and I do like weed. Yeah.
C
But weeds. Amazing. I. When I was growing up, I was like, you know, you're on the stigma, so weed so bad for you. Da, da, da, da. Never smoked. Just never smoked. Right. I smoked it once, and I saw purple clouds all over the river and all stuff. And I was talking to my. My wife now, she goes, honey, that is not weed. She goes, that shit was. I came back from the mountains, I was like this. I was like, right? And so. But now being older, like, once again, I feel that I'm successful, the kids are taken care of. And I never forget, I was, you know, one of my business partners, he's, you know, he's very, very well off. You know, he calls me, goes, hey, man, what are you doing? Fold this fucking laundry. You got five kids. We all work out every single day. So that's what I'm doing. He goes, man, you always fold in laundry. So one day, my wife, we're doing yard work, she's outside, and we have the ring cameras, and I see someone at the front door, and I see her ass out and the front door like this. I was like, God, it looks so easy. So easy. And I came around and my brother, my younger brother, he has schizophrenic bipolar and his gateway was fast tracked from marijuana. And so for me, I've always stayed away from it. And I've done, like, edibles at this time in my life. But, you know, edibles is you're on a fucking ride and you don't know what you get. If it's going to be 5, 10, 15, 20. Because they say, this is what it is, but you never know how they.
B
Especially on those homemade ones.
C
Oh, yeah, exactly. So I was like, you know what? I was like, it looks so easy. I'm gonna try it. I go around the house I was like, give me some of that shit. She goes, are you sure? You sure you want some of this? I was like, yeah, yeah, you're okay. Took a. Okay, I'm done. I don't want to tell anymore. I'm in the back picking up these fucking trees. I'm like, look at this tree recycling thing. And then she goes, you need to calm down. I was like, I feel great. No Crash. Slept like a fucking baby. Woke up, I was like, 44 beats per minute. Okay, go to the gym. Next day, I'm faster. I'm moving. I texted my coach. I go, this is a ped. He goes, shit, don't make you faster. You probably just got some good rest. And I'm like. When I made the decision to stop drinking alcohol, I was like, okay, why do I drink alcohol? It's to feel good, to lighten the mood. And I'm like, okay, well, that is literally toxic to every cell in my body.
B
That's right.
C
Every cell in my body. And I was, okay. You know, Snoop Dogg and two chains. They out there smoking for their whole entire life, and they still out there. I'm working my ass off. So if I take one toke, a one and a half toke, and that gets me where I need to be, and I wake up and I sleep great. It's like that stigma that people think like, marijuana is bad is, bro.
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It's bullshit. It's. You know, they. They allow alcohol and allow alcohol to be pushed because it's damaging to people. Yeah, they need people fucked up. They need people dependent. They need people fatigue, they need people mentally fucked up so that they can get all the treatment and buy all the pharma and do all the therapy and have all the medical issues. And then they suppress natural things, which is really cool what's going on with RFK right now in the government. But they suppress things like psilocybin, which can help with depression massively. One or two treatments can make a big difference for a lot of people. They suppress weed, which, you know, fuck, dude, I've smoked a lot of fucking weed, and I've drank a lot of alcohol. And every. Every time. Every problem I've ever had in my life, dude, came from drinking alcohol. I never went down the highway at fucking 150 miles an hour smoking weed, bro. You know, saying, you probably just.
C
I didn't. Slow the fuck down.
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How fast you go, you realize you never.
B
3. Yeah. Like, bro, I just made all the bad decisions when it comes to alcohol. It's just. I got up One. One day. The last time I drank it, dude, I had an. I had an. I got a fight. And. And that was the last time. I'm like, I'm done with this dude. Like, this is. I'm way too old to be doing this.
C
Yeah, well, I think you just. You hit it right now. It's like, I've never heard about anybody. I've. You hear so many stories. Like, guy goes to the bar, gets hammered, drives home, either gets an accident, kills somebody, or he makes. Ruins his life. Ruins his life, gets home, beats the. Out of his wife and his kids. I've never heard of. I've never heard a story. And I'm not. I haven't heard every story around the world, but I've never heard a story from someone that goes, man, he got so high, he came home and whooped ass. I've never heard that story.
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Ate all the snacks.
C
Yeah, he ate all the snacks. Well, he just died. Now he just sleep and he go wake up you the whole goddamn right. It's like, cut the plug. He said, cut the. It's like, you know, alcohol is sold to minors. It's sold in stores. And, you know, I'm glad now that weed is legal in most places. It's legal in Washington state, so I'm very blessed for that.
B
But, yeah, we got it here too, Rick.
C
Oh, is it? Yeah. See, that's. That's awesome. I think hopefully around the world. Even, like, when I went to Singapore, it's like, can't bring marijuana. You can't bring our stuff. I was like, but you can drink alcohol. And I was like, I've never heard of somebody getting extremely high and beating to me up. But, yeah, sure enough, bro, you go.
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To Singapore, do that shit, that fucking cane you.
C
Yeah, I know, but I'm like, why? It's like, yeah, it's. It's natural. And, you know, I understand there's some people. Once again, it's a tool. There's some people who can just. They smoke weed, they don't do anything. They're lazy. Da, da, da, da. Or you got people who can use it. Like, for me, I use it as a tool. I'm like, dude, I'm fucking tired. I can't sleep. I'm gonna take a couple hits. I'm gonna go to bed, hit the gym tomorrow. And you know what? I'm just gonna relax. And then I'm more patient with my kids when it's time to do fucking schoolwork. Cause my oldest, he's too damn smart for his own Good. But it gives me the patience to be able to communicate with them. So.
B
Yeah, I use that as a tool, too, to deal with everybody else. That's a tool. Yeah. Fuck. And.
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I love it, man.
B
Yeah, bro.
A
All right, well, let's. Should we do some cruising?
B
Yeah, let's do it, baby.
C
I'm ready for. I'm here.
A
Yeah, let's do some cruising, man. I wanted to bring.
B
Before we get into it. Thank you for coming on, bro.
C
No, no. Thanks for having me.
B
This is so. This is. It's cool to have you here, dude.
C
Yeah, no, thanks for having me, man. Beautiful facility, man. The gym is amazing. The product is amazing. I love it. I mean, you know, I'm happy to be here, but you got a lot.
B
Of fans here, bro.
C
Oh, thanks, man.
B
You got fans everywhere, but you got a lot here.
C
I appreciate that. Appreciate that.
A
Yeah. Well, let's do some cruising, man. I wanted to bring this topic up. I mean, it's kind of.
C
I'm excited. I can't wait. Which one is it?
A
Well, I mean, it's. It's. I mean, I feel like we're days away from it, so we got to talk about it.
C
Oh, okay, okay. You talk about fighting.
B
Oh, we talk about Jake Paul. Fight.
A
I talk about Jake.
B
Yeah.
C
I thought you're gonna talk about Oprah's ass and Kamala Harris blowing one billion nutshit. Okay, let's talk about this, though.
B
We're gonna get into that. That's next.
A
This is just the intro.
B
Okay.
A
Yeah. Mike Tyson, fight, man. So he just made a comment. Not a couple, I believe. Yesterday, actually. I'm a natural born killer. Mike Tyson highlights the difference between him and YouTuber Jake Paul. And so, yeah, they're set to fight this Friday.
C
Yep.
B
Two days from now.
A
Two days from the day tomorrow. Tomorrow.
B
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
C
When is this dropping?
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Tomorrow.
B
Tomorrow.
C
Okay. All right.
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Today.
C
Okay. Yeah, today. Yes, sir. He can edit that. Yo, yo, yo. It should be interesting. You know, I love that comment. The first thing came to me is like, I'm an. You know, I'm a natural born killer. That's 58. You know, killers, when they're. When they're young, they're great killers. They don't get caught. They're very, you know, discreet, subtle, secretive. They don't get caught. But typically, as a killer, as he gets older, he starts to, you know, not. Not clean the sink as good. He starts such a slow, then eventually gets caught. So I agree with. I agree with Mike Tyson. He is a natural born killer, but that killer is 58. Who's taken on, you know, a fabricated. I don't say fabricated killer. But Jake Paul, where, you know, Jake Paul has never gone through that broke man stage of a professional athlete. Like he's came into, he came, I've.
A
Never heard that perspective.
B
Yeah.
C
He came into the sport wealthy, right? Like he wasn't running, he wasn't working full time like I was. He wasn't working 40 hours a week. He wasn't, you know, Mike Tyson, he was broke. He was broke, right? So Jake Paul is never going to have that same mentality that I had or Mike Tyson had or a lot of athletes had. He came in, he had the best of the best nutrition, the best of the best state of the art facility. He had the best of the best. He gets to pick and choose who he fights and da, da, da, da. I didn't get that opportunity. Mike Tyson had the opportunity, right? So you take anybody and you give them the state of the art facility, the state of art nutrition, the state of the art protein, whatever it may be, they're going to be something. Especially when he can handpick who he fights. Right?
B
That's, I mean, look, you still got to do the work though.
C
What the hell, you know what I'm saying?
B
Like, like, here's what I'll say. I've known Jake since he was 17 years old. Okay. That, okay. Tyson can say whatever he wants. Tyson could say, oh, I'm a natural killer. And there's also some, there's a lot of truth to what you're saying. The when, when it comes to Tyson though, you know, as you are a killer, people start to know you're a killer. Right. You're not sneaking up on anybody. You don't, you're not Tyson. If Tyson doesn't go out there and knock him the out, it's a loss for him.
C
Yeah.
B
Okay, so Jake is a natural athlete. He's a good athlete coming up. And I know Jake personally. Jake is a one of them real fucking hot fire dudes when it comes to disrespect, embarrassment and disrespect is what, is what fucking fires people like that. And he's like that. And the fact that he feels disrespected, the fact that he feels that everybody looks at him like a YouTuber who decided to box. I, I think it lends, it lends itself to Jake's favor because he's wired that way.
C
Yeah.
B
And you know, Jake's an exceptionally intelligent dude, very hard worker, very good athlete and you know, yeah, he definitely had the advantages, but also I think the disadvantages too. Right. Because, like, he didn't grow up with the sport.
C
Yeah.
B
You know what I mean?
C
Yeah.
B
And I think the, the amount of progress he's made in the short amount of time is incredible.
C
Yeah. I think the hardest thing that a lot of people got it, the perspective of boxing. Right. Boxing, mixed martial arts, two different. Two different animals. Right. Where boxing, you have more say. So what you can and can't do. So from the standpoint, as a professional athlete who fights, I can see why, the way I interpreted what I just said about Jake Paul, it could look a little bit disrespectful.
B
No, no, that's not what I'm saying. I'm just saying there's two views to that. Two views. All right. But a lot of people, they could both be true.
C
Yeah. Jake Paul. If I, If I told Jake Paul, like, Jake Paul, you never, you never. You weren't. You weren't fucking poor.
A
You didn't starve, bro.
C
You didn't starve. Like, I was working fucking 40 hours a week carrying things, trying to make it to the gym and get my rounds in.
B
Yeah.
C
You had somebody there to tie your gloves, to wrap your hands. Oh, you have a tight back. Let me, let me get that. You had that Jake Paul. And I'm not saying there's nothing wrong with that. Props to you.
B
It's different.
C
It's different. Props to you for setting yourself up and coming to the sport because Jake Paul has done amazing.
B
That takes big balls, bro.
C
Yeah, it takes big balls. Because he didn't have to.
B
Yeah, right.
C
And he's changed. Change a lot of people's lives in boxing. Amanda Sereno in her paychecks that she wasn't able to get. She's been able to. He's been able to market her. He's been able to bring, you know, he's about to make. Give Mike Tyson a big payday. So. Jake Powell has done a lot of great things in boxing, Right. I think what.
B
He's also got everybody watching it, dude, 1,000%.
C
It's exciting again, right?
B
Yeah.
C
And I think that I'm gonna rewatch it. Yeah, I am too. All right, boys. Jake Paul taking an old ass. Mike Tyson, let's go.
B
Yeah.
C
But I think the biggest thing, like, for me, when it comes. And this is. And this is the culture of boxing. It's the culture of boxing, which is different from mixed martial arts. Why is Jake Paul fighting someone who's 58 years old?
B
Yeah.
C
Well, that'll be My first. My first argument. Why do you think he is my person?
B
It's very obvious.
C
Well, one big fucking.
B
Yeah, it's a fucking huge event, dude.
C
Huge event.
B
These guys are showman.
C
Exactly.
B
Yeah.
C
But when it comes to, like. Like, there isn't. And then for me as the purist, I like to think of myself as a purist of trying to test yourself against the best. Right. Because they mix martial arts, you don't get to pick and choose who you fight. Right. It's like when I was an amateur.
B
Yeah. They pick for you.
C
They pick for you. It's like this. Who you're fucking fighting. Get ready. You don't know anything about them and you fucking fight. Right. So for me, it's like, are you telling me there's not another person out there in the world who's 28 years old, who's 5 and 0 as a boxer that Jake Paul cannot fight?
B
No, I think. I think that's where he has to move if he's going to do what he says he wants to do.
C
Yeah. If he wants to be like a legit champion. A legit champion where it's like, Eddie Hearn, you're going to pick my. You're going to pick my next five fights? Yeah, pick him. That's like, that's. We got big fucking balls. Like, I don't. You pick. You pick the next five guys.
B
I think that's going to be coming for him, I hope. Yeah, I hope so, too.
C
I hope. Because I'm excited for.
B
I think he really intends to be. I think Jake really intends to be world champion. I think he's very driven, he's very dedicated. People can laugh about it and they can say he's the this or that. I mean, I've shook this man's hand a number of times, looked him in the eye. This guy's not a pussy.
C
Yeah.
B
You know, he. He's gonna give it everything he's got.
C
And I'm sure he's a nice guy.
B
He is a great guy.
C
A nice guy. He.
B
He does a lot behind the scenes for people. He does a lot for boxing community behind the scenes, gives money, trains kids. Like, you know, this character that everybody seems to not hate. It's. It's a character.
C
Yeah, exactly.
B
Sorry, Jake. But like.
C
No, no, I just want people to.
B
Know he's a good dude.
C
Absolutely.
B
And that's.
C
And that's the thing where the things get misconstrued.
B
Yeah.
C
Right. I give. And like, for me, when it comes to, like, fighting, like, just not the business Side of it, right? He goes, well, Demetri Johnson, if I did that, you know, I might lose like he did to Tommy Fury. And Tommy Fury was a 50, 50 fighter, right? Like, he's not even. Like, there was guys and it was just like, yeah, I've been in the gym since I was 18 years old. And now I work you, Jake, right?
B
Yeah.
C
And it's just like a mixed martial arts, everybody path to a world title fight. You look at Dustin Poirier, he's never been a true, like, world undisputed champion. He's been interim champion, but guys like Charles Oliveira have gone through the weeds and got it right. So same thing with Jake Paul where there's a kid who's 18 years old who's like, oh, they look at Jake Paul, I'll fucking work him. I've been. I've been boxing since I was 8. Yeah, he's amateur. So that's where, like, for me, as a purist, when I look at it, I was like, did you wrestle? I wrestled in high school.
B
Yeah. Yeah. So it's like those wrestler kids, right, that started when they were fucking four.
C
They fuck you up.
B
They don't ever lose.
C
They don't lose.
B
They don't lose.
C
And they've been bred that way. So. But. And all in all, I'm excited for Jake Paul. And this is. People gotta think. A lot of people think, I hate on Jake Paul. Whether Jake Paul wins or lose. Does it affect my bank account?
B
No.
C
Does it affect the way I live my life? It doesn't. So I don't. I have no stake on if he wins or lose. I want the best for both these gentlemen. I want. I want Jake Paul to win if the. I want Mike Tyson to win. I want Jake Paul to win. I want both of them to win.
B
I feel the same way.
C
Yeah. But. But I want. But if Jake Paul truly wants to be world champion, a true world champion, I want. And everybody wants to take him serious.
B
Yeah.
C
I am here. I'll sit in the front row. I'll make popcorn. I'm ready to watch the ride. And I want to see you challenge yourself. When you find someone who's fucking 58 years old and you're 27, my first thing is like, how come there's not another person out there who's 27 that can challenge him?
B
Well, there's plenty that will, but they're not going to get paid like this, which is fine. Yeah.
C
And he might not bring as many views, so it's like, yeah, Are you doing a Business side of it, or are you trying to, you know. Yeah, that's how I am.
B
But no, I think there's valid points to both. I think you're right, dude. I mean, if he's going to be what he says he wants to be, he's going to have to do what you're saying. Yep. Has to.
C
Yeah. Has to. Yeah. For people to. For people. Let's just say MVP's making its own belt, baby. Da, da, da, da. He grabs a homeboy and beats the guy off the street. I'm world champion. I was like, now you fucking done did it.
B
Yeah. Yeah.
C
I'm gonna start disrespecting you. Yeah. You just made a fake belt that hasn't been in lineage or anything like that. So I guess I got a belt.
B
Too, you know, saying I got my. I got my own first form belt.
A
Yeah, you do.
B
Well, who we got? Who we got? For real?
C
You know what?
B
I think there's. There's.
C
So I'm gonna go Jake Paul. The reason why is because, yes, Mike Tyson is a killer. He's great, he's fast. But I'm not going to be naive that the man is 58 years old. I saw him fight. What's his name? Mercer. Not Mercer, who's Las Vegas joins Jones. Jones, yeah. Jones Jr.
B
He could have fucking killed that guy. He went half speed.
A
I don't think he was really going, bro.
C
I mean, sometimes, bro, you see them sparring, bro.
B
I mean, I have a naive either. Like, you have a trained eye.
C
Yeah.
B
Like, when I see Mike Tyson move, I'm like, holy shit, dude.
A
For 58. Yeah.
C
For 58 he moves phenomenal.
B
Yeah, but for 58.
C
But 58, yeah. Right? Let's go watch him. When he was Jake Paul's age. Boom, boom. Just a rhythm, all that stuff.
B
Yeah.
C
You know, in boxing, you can hold, you can move.
B
Yeah.
C
Negate. You can do that stuff.
B
But this ain't. This ain't. This is a primary boxer, like, who was literally one of the scariest dudes ever.
C
Like you said. You just said it right there.
B
Yeah.
C
Who used to be.
B
Yeah. I mean, he scares me, dude.
C
He's still scary. Motherfucker.
B
Right?
C
Like, I'm gonna meet Mike Tyson. What's up, dj? I'm like, ah, grab on your motherfucker. But, you know, I'm gonna have to go with Jake Paul. I think he's younger, skill wise. Mike Tyson's way better than him. Way better than him. Like the peekaboo, the angles he throws at. But, you know, we're not talking about skill, Right. Even if Jake Paul knocks out Mike Tyson, Mike Tyson is still a better boxing.
B
Yeah, right.
C
Like when I beat him, Cejudo, he, when he beat me the second time, I feel comfortable saying I'm still a better mixed martial artist. Like, I feel for skill. For skill, you know? Okay, Deli hiva. Deli Hiva to the Bernabolo. Okay, now you did. I know way more knowledge than him, right. And Mike Tyson has way more knowledge than Jake Paul. But if Jake. But this is once again my eye where it's like, yeah, you know. Okay, Jake Paul wins. I still don't think you're a better fighter than Mike Tyson.
B
Oh, I don't think, I don't think he thinks that. Yeah, yeah, I don't think he'll think that.
C
Yeah, but I'm going Jake Paul, man.
B
I just keep looking at some of these right hooks that he throws, bro. And they're mean.
C
Who?
B
Like Jake Paul, he throws some hard fucking right hooks. But dude, I, I also think that, you know, Tyson's 3, 4 inches shorter than him, dude.
C
Yeah.
B
And I think he's gonna walk up.
A
Get up under him, bro.
C
Hey, hey. I hope I'm wrong.
B
Listen, I'm, I'm just saying it could go either way. I'm not even comfortable picking because I, I don't know.
C
You have to pick. You have to.
B
Fuck.
C
You have to. That's why I try, I try to do the same thing on my shit. Like, you have to pick. There is no fucking na na na na. You have to pick. And you know, end of the day, I agree with you. Any one of these guys can win, but I'm gonna hedge my bet against the younger guy who's had.
B
Yeah, everything.
C
Give it. No, I want. Excuse me, not everything. Give it to him. But who's had the best of the best training? And I don't care if you have somebody who is athletic, who's willing to put the work in and a state of the art facility, you're going to be a product of something you're not. You know, Jake Paul is truly getting better. His jab is quick.
B
Did you see the, did you see the documentary on Netflix?
C
No, not yet.
B
So they have this like pre 3 series documentary to the fight. Did you watch it? It's not the Jake Paul documentary. It's this pre fight with Tyson.
A
Yeah, that's where the quote came from.
B
Yeah. So I was watching it and dude, I mean, they took Jake Paul to the, the Olympic training facility up in Colorado and all The. All the boxers up there were giving him props. Oh, yeah. They were like, bro, he's so. I don't know, man. I say it, dude, I gotta pick Jake.
A
All right?
B
I. I gotta pick Jake. Listen, man, I agree with what you're saying. He's young, he's fast, he's strong, and he's. He's training. I think he's training. Like, dude, look, the guy who has more hunger is going to train harder, okay? And I think Jake has way more to prove than Mike Tyson. Mike Tyson is Mike Tyson.
C
Yeah.
B
And Mike Tyson is a fucking straight up gangster. Like, I literally am. Figuratively. I would not want to fight Mike Tyson, like, for fucking any reason. I just think. I think it depends on how Mike took the training, dude. I think if Mike comes out and he. Because, dude, you probably. I mean, look, this dude's a fucking top level competitor like you.
C
Yeah.
B
There's no way to turn that down when you're in that environment. Like, if you said, hey, go in there and fight this dude, half speed and the guy punches you, half speed is over.
C
Yeah, it's over.
A
I think that's what it's going to come down to, bro. Like, if Jake hit, like, bro, I don't know what if there's any, like, prearranged agreements, like, all right, we'll go 75. Jake hits him with a fucking 76, it's gonna be a problem.
B
That's how I feel about it.
A
It's gonna be a problem.
B
That's how I feel about it.
C
And Jake hits hard. He knocked out Tyron Woodley. He knocked out Ben Askren. He knocked out the other boxer, Frankie, or I forget the guy's name. He hit him with the uppercut. Timed it perfectly. So Jake Paul has good eyes. He's getting better. He's getting better. And sh. Mike Tyson were fighting a kid who's 30 years. Like, for me, I'm 38 and I've grappled kids who are 20, 22. The amount of strength that. How fast they are. Like, I can keep up because I'm athletic.
B
Yeah.
C
But me, man. Oh, my God. Damn. You little. So I go, imagine, like, especially to fight. We'll see. I mean. And that's like I said, there's no disrespect to Mike and Jake Paul, but I. I have Jake Paul winning this fight just because Mike Tyson is 58. Like, you know, age is a number. And as we all know, when you work out, I'm not going to lie. I don't know what I'M going to be like when I'm 58. I sure. Hang on. Fight someone who's 30 years younger than me. Tell you that right now.
B
I mean, look, dude, I, you know, we'll see. That's why we watch the fight, right?
C
All comes out to Friday night.
B
Yeah, I'm excited, dude. And you know, I've been always a Mike Tyson fan. You know, like when I grew up, the world stopped when Mike Tyson fought, bro. Like, it stopped. It's going to stop Friday too.
C
Yep.
B
And, and I'm excited about it, you know, and I would hate to see Mike Tyson get knocked out because I'm a Mike Tyson fan.
C
Yeah.
B
Brutal. Yeah. But fuck, this is going to be. It's going to be interesting.
A
Yeah, we'll see, man. Guys, let us know what you guys think down in the comments.
B
I think it could go the other way like real quick too.
C
Yeah.
B
Like, I think Mike Tyson could walk to the center of the ring and fucking knock this dude the fuck out.
A
Three piece in the biscuit, baby.
B
Yeah, like it could go that way.
C
Yeah.
B
But I think if they get into a boxing rhythm, Jake's definitely in. In a, in a driver's seat, in my opinion.
C
Absolutely. Yeah, I agree. I. Jake Paul doesn't suck. No, that's a lot of people gotta understand. Jake Paul does not suck at boxing. Yeah, he's a great boxer. He's a good, he, he has a good jab, good eyes. When he did the Mike Perry and that's. And this is the thing about a lot of people don't understand is like.
B
And yeah, it's not like Mike Perry's a. Mike Perry's badass.
C
Badass. Yeah. The thing about boxing is that, that is the culture of boxing. You pad your record, right? You look at Javonte Davis, Ryan Garcia, you look at all those guys, they pad their record, they pad their record. Then eventually these guys meet, right? Earl Spencer. They finally meet and they fight and then they go their separate ways. And that's what Jake Paul is doing. He's padding his record. Where in MMA from? My culture, you don't get to pad your record.
B
Yeah. It just is what it is.
C
It is what it is. Like you're. My first fight in WC was fucking Brad Pickett and I was undefeated as an amateur and a professional. Brad Pigett had like, you know, probably 25 and 2 fucking on a tear. I don't get to dictate that. So when boxing you get to dictate that. And I think that probably puts a lot of Bad taste in people's mouths. Where if Jake Paul's like, I'm going to be a boxer, I'm not going to have any control of my career. I'm bop, bop, bop, bop, bop. Eddie Hearn's like, hey, we got to fight for you. This is where you're going to fight.
B
I think that's going to be his next move. He's going to have to move into that.
C
I agree. I agree. And I'm excited if he does. I'll be. I'll be.
B
I'm excited, too, dude. You know, because I remember talking to him, like, and right when he was getting into it, and, you know, he was very serious about it.
C
Yeah.
B
And I was like, I kind of walked away and I was like, yeah. Like, I didn't know what to think.
C
Yeah.
B
And now he's doing this. It's pretty awesome, dude.
C
And like.
B
Yeah.
C
Back to what Jake Paul has done for boxing. Now boxing is a Netflix platform.
B
Yeah.
C
You can't take that away from. He's done things, bro.
B
That motherfucker's smart as.
C
Yeah. He's done things for boxing that people like Eddie Hearn had been, you know, that. Been into the boxing sport for so many years.
B
Yeah.
C
That they couldn't even do it.
B
Yeah.
C
Right. Like, he's, you know, branching out and making things happen. Because now if Netflix has a successful show on Netflix, it's going to give history making. It's history making. It's gonna give more boxers, young boxers, an opportunity to have another platform to fight for instead of, you know, the zone. You know, at one point, you had hbo. Yeah. Cinemax, you got Showtime. You had all these bigger organization. Now it's another place for people to go and be able to fight.
B
Yeah.
C
So I. I'm.
B
I'm excited, too, bro.
A
Yeah, we shall see.
B
What do you pick?
A
I got Tyson.
B
You do?
A
Yeah, I got Tyson.
C
Okay. Hey, don't just pick him because he's black. Black.
B
It's okay. Well, you're gonna figure out DJ hates black people. I do. DJs racist.
C
That DJ. Ladies, gentlemen, not me.
A
I mean, we do kind of look alike.
C
I know, right? I was gonna picture, like, damn, you.
B
Look like you ate little dj.
A
Baby picture, man. No, I got. I got Tyson.
B
You guys do look alike a little bit.
C
A little bit.
B
Yeah.
A
Kentucky.
C
Yeah.
A
I don't know if my dad was ever down there.
C
Oh.
A
Man, I got Tyson only for one reason, man. You guys know that. Like, it's a famous interview. Back in his glory days, though. I think one of the Reporters said some, some dumb to him from the crowd. And he told the dude, like, I will you in the.
B
I'm sorry.
A
I just don't feel like that just disappears.
C
Yeah.
A
It just doesn't go away.
B
Oh, you did? Yeah.
A
And you gonna like it.
C
Like you don't love it. You'll call me daddy.
A
Listen, you can like, that does not.
B
That's a different level, dude.
A
That is a different, like, that's just different.
B
Jake, you better win, bro.
A
Listen, man, like, I'm sorry, I, I'm sorry. I, I, I got, I got Tyson, bro.
B
Yeah, I got Tyson. I think it's a 50, bro. I think it. What are the odds? Are the odds close?
A
I don't know what Vegas is saying.
B
I think Jake's the favorite, but dude, man.
A
Guys, let us know what you guys.
B
Think down in the comments. You better win, bro, please.
C
Hey, after I had that conversation, I'm even more pumped to watch it just go home like crazy.
A
Oh, it's going to be crazy, man. But yeah, guys, let us know down in the comments what you guys think about Tyson and Paul. With that being said, man, let's get into our main headlines, guys. Remember, if you want to see any of these articles, pictures, links, videos, go to andyforcella.com we link them all there for you. So with that being said, man, let's get to our first headline, headline number one. Headline number one reads, Trump thanks Biden for smooth transition during White House meeting. So they met for the first time, I guess, in some, in some time. President elect Trump and President Biden both pledged a smooth transition between administrations as they met at the White House on Wednesday morning. Quote, I look forward to having a smooth transition. We'll do everything we can to make sure you're accommodated. What you need. President Biden said his cameras and reporters were briefly allowed in the Oval Office for a meeting. Um, speaking second, Trump emphasized that, quote, politics is tough, and in many cases, it's not a very nice world, but it's a nice world today. I appreciate very much the transition that's so smooth. It will be as smooth as it can get, and I very much appreciate that. The former and future president added, I'll be honest, it's probably the. I don't know what the fuck Biden's face is there, bro.
B
He's just happy. Get the fuck out of there, dude. He's like, these last four years have sucked, bro. He's like, I had to deal with Kamala, you know? You know, he's like, hey, I voted for you. Buddy, you know, he did too. Look at that. He definitely voted for, for Trump.
A
He either voted for Trump or he just himself again. Yeah, maybe it's one of those.
C
I mean, I hope the transition is smooth. You know, I'm happy that, you know, the American people has spoken a voted for Donald Trump to be in office. And I'm happy that the, the old administration are going to hand over the power smoothly and as it should be. And I'm excited to see what Trump's going to do. You know, when he was in to begin with, a lot of my values aligned with his values and they still to do today. And I'm just excited to see, as he calls it, the golden era of this country. So I'm excited to see what happens.
B
Yeah, dude, I'm excited too. If they let him in office, man, it just, I still got the weird, like everybody's excited and I appreciate that and I, I'm excited too. But God, dude, I can't shake this feeling in my gut like, like these people are going to do some super fucked up shit. Like I, I don't, man, I don't know.
A
I mean, dude, they've done a lot.
B
So that's what I'm saying, bro. And they're being way too quiet and way too cool and like they're, you know, making these faces and it's, dude, it's one, it's, it's either, it's either one, they are because he's going to hold them accountable for the, that they did. And they're trying to smooth it out and be like, hey, we're cool, we're cool, it's all good. Or two, they got some planned and they know it's coming.
C
Yeah.
B
And, and it's one of those things because they're not acting normal, you know.
A
They're not, man.
B
I still think it's the same thing I've been saying, dude. I think they're gonna kill this dude. They're gonna be like, oh, look around, did it. And then they're gonna say, all you guys have voted for Trump. We have to avenge Trump. Trump. And you know, by the way, it's free and fair elections. Look, he won, you know, And I just feel like they're so. They get the war, they get the people on their side. I don't know, man. I, maybe I'm just being hypersensitive to it because it's been so up the last four years, you know, started with Coven and just kept going.
C
Yeah.
B
And maybe I'm just, maybe, maybe I'M reading too much into it, man. But I haven't been wrong on much. And it's just like a feeling I have.
A
Yeah.
C
Yeah. Well, I think the reason why they're probably acting all weird and quiet and shit is because I feel they got caught with their pants down.
B
Yeah.
C
They're in the ocean, butt ass naked. The tide fucking recedes and it's like, oh, that's what's really big.
B
Definitely could be.
C
Yeah.
B
Yeah. I mean, the mainstream media is done. You know, the trust is gone. You know, like, you got the views, getting hammered.
C
The view girls are fucking stupid.
B
Hey, I got a job for you, dude. A second on the fucking show.
A
Do it.
B
Demetrius is the man here.
C
I mean, don't.
B
Yeah. Girls, I say you have to move here from Seattle. I know that sounds horrible.
A
Yeah, right?
C
I mean, I, you know, I'm on. I'm on X, Twitter, whatever it's called now. And I see fucking. These girls. You know what? They're all. They all look gorgeous. They're. They're probably amazing moms and all that stuff, but some of the stuff they talk about and, you know, a lot of stuff. The new Tom Holland, the new Border Caesar.
B
Oh, yeah, right.
C
Him.
B
I love that guy.
C
It's like. And him sitting there and fucking grilling people. It is against the law to come to this country as an illegal alien. That is, that code was written before my time and it will always be there.
B
It's every other country in the world, bro.
C
You drive without a fucking license. You are breaking the law. You are. You have signed up to become a criminal. Right? If I try to go to Canada and live in Canada right now without having green papers, I am a legal alien and they will deport my ass. Why is that such a big deal to understand?
B
It's not.
C
It's. It's not right? So when he said that, okay, you can come to America the correct way through immigration and all that stuff, get your papers right? So why not do that? But a lot of them don't want to do it. Then I heard another conversation. Is that a gentleman who is. Who came over to America?
B
Both these guys?
C
Yeah, they came over here the correct way. They get pissed off when they see the people come over here illegally. And he goes, you know how long I had to wait to get my paperwork done and how much it costs? How much it costs. And you think you can just jump the fucking line? Yeah, I'm fucking pissed because you basically discredited all the work I had to do to get here. Right. And that was the first time I heard that perspective. I was like. And he put in the reference of, like, going to Disneyland. He goes, if I wait in line for three hours to get on, you know, Magic Mountain, and you just come up and cut me and get. You think I'm okay with that, Scooter? Yeah. Like, he's like, you need to be okay with that. So the View, not talking like that, trying to paint in. In a light where it's like, well, these people need a better life.
B
Nah, bro, it's all.
C
Let's. Let's cut that and let's get straightforward. Like. And my. My buddy, Bibiano Fernandez, he. He lived in Brazil. Brazilian, lost. He lived in the jungle for a very long time. Then one day he ended up in Canada, and he was like, oh, I love this country. This country's amazing. And he had his green card and he was working up there, but he went through the right process in order to get his legal. His citizenship in Canada. So he's a Canadian citizen, and he knows all the providence. He went through the correct way, and Canada loves him, bro.
B
That's what America's made up. My ancestors came through Ellis Island. You know what I'm saying? Like, this guy, they came from Bosnia. He came from India.
C
Yeah.
B
You know, these dudes went through all this process, and let's be real, dude, it's not about. They don't understand. These guys understand exactly what this is about. This is about them bring in people that will vote for their side for eternity.
C
Yeah.
B
And when they sit on TV in the View, and they're like, oh, my God, this is so morally bad. And, you know, it's so rude, and it lacks compassion. They're lying to our faces. These people are not stupid. They. They think their audience is stupid, which apparently it must be, because. Yeah. Because, bro, they eat it up, you know, and then you get all these wine drinking, you know, brunch out here telling you you're a bad person because. Yeah, because you don't want people coming here illegally. And then they'll say like, well, who's gonna cut the grass? And I'm like, well, who's fucking racist?
A
Who's gonna farm all. Who's gonna clean your toilets and farm all your vegetables?
B
Yeah. That's what Kelly Osborne said. On the fucking View.
A
On the View.
C
And that's what my sister said before she passed. She goes, you find somebody else to pick your vegetables. I'm like, I'm sure we could find somebody. It's not. It's not hard Right. But I think the whole scope of things, and while you're talking about mainstream media is dead. And that's the reason right there. You have a guy, guy like Tom Omega Skies. Like, I know the code. Like he was grilling a woman. Aoc. Grilling her, Grilling her.
B
Oh, she gave up. She gave up.
C
Yeah. It's like, let's cut the bullshit. He goes, if, if I'm an American citizen, if I'm at home and there's domestic, domestic violence and the cops come, they're going to separate me from my child.
B
That's right.
C
They're going to go, cps, Child Protective Services. Right. And you're telling me we can't do that for. Obviously I don't want a illegal alien being separated from his mom. And nobody wants that. Nobody wants that. Right?
B
Nobody want, Listen, we got to deal with what is.
C
Yes.
B
Not with what's ideal. Right, of course. Nobody wants that. You don't want that. I don't want that. He doesn't want that.
C
Yeah.
B
But at the same time, we don't want 20 million motherfucking military age males in our country shouldn't be here.
C
Yeah, yeah, exactly.
B
And, and that's part of the lie. Part of the lie is they tell these people, they tell the good hearted America people because they are good hearted. That's why they, you know, they tell these people, like, look, you know, these people are families. They're not families, they're military age males coming here. And where do you think they're going to get the women that, you know, they're, they're not going to, they're not bringing their families with them, you know, you know what I'm saying? And then all the women are like rooting for this, like, dude, it just makes our entire system more dangerous, more likely to have conflict. It's just, and, and the good people with good hearts believe it. But those people on the View, they know why they're pushing that agenda.
C
Yeah.
B
It's not because they feel sorry for those people.
C
And the fact, like, you know, that's what I'm excited for, the new administration with Tom Holman, how he's like, dude, like, I'm fucking shutting this shit down.
B
I love it.
C
He goes, I have no problem. You come to country, I want you to come to this country the correct way.
B
Yeah.
C
And he goes, the cartels fucking, you're, you're, you're a terrorist now. He goes, you know, isis, I'm a fuck you.
B
Like, yeah, let's fuck you and ask.
C
So I'm excited. But I think with the View, I think, like, oh, you ever heard them talk about, like, can you guys, like, see this shit they need to talk about? Goes, girls, can you believe that Kamala Harris paid Beyonce $10 million to go perform? Can you believe that, girl? It's like, what do you think about that?
B
They're not saying that.
C
They're not gonna say that shit. Right? And then they're gonna talk about, you know, megan Thee stallion get paid $2 million to do that thing is like.
A
What, Al Sharpton got paid half a million?
C
Yeah.
A
Oprah got paid a million.
C
Yeah. It's like, what are we doing? Like, and then they lie about it.
A
That's the part that pisses me off the most.
B
Oprah tried to lie.
A
Oprah tried to. Oh, I. I did not get paid. It's all. It's.
B
It's that her company.
C
Yeah. It's almost like, why not? If I was open, like, yeah, I got you. God damn right I got paid. I took that campaign money because why not? And that's. That's where the American people lose trust in American media. Because all of that. And, you know, shout out to Elon Musk for buying, you know, Twitter X. And it's just. Just being honest. And, you know, I just think that's where life needs to go, is every being honest. If you want to come to the country, please come. Come the right way. We. We support you, and we need to take care of our own, like we take care of our own. There's no reason why people who need aid that are our own American people that are trying to get aid. Right. And try to better their lives, they need to come first. They need to come first. After that, then we can help everybody else. Like, my house comes first. If I can make donations to the school or anything like that, I'm gonna do my best, but my house needs to eat first, and we need to be comfortable before we take everybody else, because ain't nobody gonna take care of my family better than I am. And that's how it is in America. Nobody's helping out America if we get in a war. Right. Who's gonna come to our aid?
B
Nobody.
C
Who?
B
We're the only in the world, bro, that work the way we work and then pay the taxes we pay and then have those tax dollars go overseas instead of spent here on our people.
C
Yep.
B
It's absurd.
C
Yeah. Imagine it's like. It's like, okay, all right, all right, Andy, you made this amount of money, you got to pay about, you know, $500,000 in taxes. But you know, we're gonna do. Andy, we're gonna give you a discount if you put 50% back into your own ecosystem. Right?
B
Yeah.
C
I want you to better your employees life if you want to do all that stuff. We don't want to take that, you know, that whole 50% because we're gonna send over somewhere else.
B
Yeah, right.
C
If you could you imagine how much the economy would be stronger?
B
Just like, dude, like people don't understand that. It's. This is why I really like the appointments of Vivek and Elon getting appointed in the.
C
The government efficiency department of do whatever we call. Yeah, government efficiency. And here you go. Like when they said you have the most richest man in the world endorse trouble. He didn't get paid a dime. And not a dime to.
A
In fact he was spending money.
C
He was spending money, right? And the fact like we were like, oh, he's Biden election. He goes, no, he was paying people a million dollars to support the constitution of the first Amendment. I believe it was.
B
Right.
C
That has nothing to do with voting.
B
Register for voting.
C
The register for voting. Right. It's like the whole thing of like, oh, it's like you need a license to fucking drive, but you don't need a license to vote. Yeah, like what is that? Like it's just.
A
Oh, you have a license, license?
B
Yeah, I got licensed dog.
A
Yeah, I'm working on mine.
B
Well, I mean apparently, you know these liberals that, you know, they say black people don't know how to get IDs.
A
I don't know where to go.
B
Yeah. Or, or use a computer, you know.
C
Just, just a lot of interesting things at the way the country is and where it's going to go. And I'm just excited to see.
B
I am too, dude, because I think these dudes are going to wreck. They're going to wreck the bureaucracy and bring it down to a manageable point. I know for a fact that Vivek shares a lot of the views that we're talking about here. I know that, I know him. He's been on the show, we talk semi regularly about this exact thing. And the cool thing about Vivek and first of all, look what Elon did with Twitter. He got rid of all the bullshit.
A
He trimmed a lot.
B
Okay. He understands how to do that. He's a very successful businessman. He runs some of the biggest, biggest, most profitable companies in the world. And then you have Vivek, who is also a self made, very, very wealthy man and he understands constitution better than almost anybody I've ever talked to. So you combine those two ideas about how to shrink the government and then Vivek's knowledge of how to actually do it. I'm very excited because, dude, I know Vivek talks about a 10% tax, and if we. To your point.
C
Yeah.
B
If we only paid 10 in taxes, think what your life would look like. The economy and the jobs and the pay scale.
C
Yeah.
B
And people's ability to afford things like the p. You know, the. These guys on the left, they keep blaming, like, the grocery people and the greedy oil people, and they're. Dude, that's not what it is. Who's greedy is our government.
C
Yeah.
B
And they take our money, they make us work, then they take the money and they send it overseas so they can funnel it back to themselves in some way, shape or form through political campaigns or, you know, to companies they own stock in. Sometimes I'm sure they probably just steal it. Right. Directly and we don't know about it. They have to shell companies. Diff. You know, all this different. That all has to stop, dude.
A
This, this, this.
C
A warrant officer is off to a great start with a split leadership. Two people who do the work of one person. Yeah. This seems really efficient. The beautiful thing, that they're probably going.
B
To do it for free.
C
Yeah. That's what I was going to say. Do you think. Do you think they're like, oh, hey, hey, trump, here's my W2 or my 1090.
B
Vivek's not saying, and certainly not Elon, but Vivek is not saying, hey, give me my $140,000 a year. Like my government salary.
C
Those are the people I want working where they're like, I've made my wealth.
B
Yeah.
C
I want to make sure when I leave this Earth, it's in a better place. And we get stuff set in place. Those are people I want to work for the country. I don't want somebody who's showing up to collect a paycheck. Right.
B
Yeah.
C
And that's what I love about taking.
A
That paycheck and flipping it, you know, I mean, dude, Elizabeth Warren makes 285 a year.
C
And what does she do?
A
She's worth $67 million. She's been in government all her life.
B
That's impossible.
A
How does that.
B
That's impossible.
C
Exactly. Like, for me, it's like, what. Like, what does she. What has she done in the government that I should know? Or what warrants to her to make $285,000 a year?
B
Nothing.
A
Well, you know what My fix is she talks.
B
She says she's a Native American.
A
Yeah, Somebody actually got on that. Well, she's been getting hammered on Twitter. Somebody said, unlike you, Vivek is a real Indian.
B
Bro. Bro. The, the other thing is, did you see the Pete Heth nomination?
A
Yeah.
B
Okay. You have Joy Reed, who is a total racist piece of. Okay. And I will say that right to her face.
A
I would, I would say it's to his face too.
B
She's on there talking about Pete Hegseth being a Fox host. You understand? This guy has two bronze stars, okay. He's been deployed multiple times. He's an actual soldier who's seen real action and paid price for our country. This guy's a real dude. He understands what the is going on with the generals and the flow and the wokeness and all this. And you put him as Secretary of Defense and the left's freaking the out because he's going to come in, he's going to remove all that woke everybody's. The entire military will go back to. You're going to be a proficient soldier. Okay. And they're freaking out because when they do that, those people will no longer have that influence over the military like they have right now. Like they've been able to sneak in over the last 15 years. Right. They've snuck in their people. You know, you got Admiral, what's that dude's name? Yeah. Ralph, Rachel. Rachel Levine. You know, you got Miley or Millie who's a total traitor. Like he's gonna get rid of all these people and it's gonna remove their ability to influence the military. So they're freaking out about it because of that.
C
Yeah. When you're talking about that, it might say back in the day where like you're going to try for the football team if you fucking suck, you're not playing in a football team.
A
That's it.
C
That's what I'm getting from you. Where it's like, we're going to come in here, we're going to make you guys, you know, proficient. What you're fucking doing. You're going to do your job very, very good. If you don't make the cut, too bad you're not being on the team. Right.
B
That's merit based society. It's how we produce the best. If America is going to be the fucking best, that's how we should be doing everything.
C
Yep. But I think in our society, and you know I have children right. In this society where it's like, how come I didn't get a gold Medal because you didn't win, that's why.
B
Yeah, right.
A
It's very easy. It's a very easy conversation.
C
Yeah. And so I told my son, he wants to play competitive football. And I was like, gridiron. I said, dude, like, if you ain't catching a ball, they ain't gonna pitch you on the team.
B
Yeah.
C
Playing is simple. This is not i9. This isn't the like. So for this, like, I want the best people who are going to fit the job and get the job done, like, come home. And he was like, yeah, we can deport the whole family.
B
Yeah, like, I like that guy.
C
Yeah, I do too. I just find out about him. So I'd be sitting there, he's just. He's fucking gangster. He was like, easy. Yeah.
B
Defort the whole family.
A
So is there a solution to, you know, to not separate families when you're deported? Yeah, of course there is. Deport the whole family.
C
Shit. We'll sit in the house too, if you want. Like, I mean, I feel like I want the best, best of the best inside of the government and the White House. Who's going to make America great again?
B
Yeah, right.
C
I can. If somebody goes, oh, you're horrible for saying that.
B
And another, we're the majority, bro.
C
Yeah. Well, the thing that makes me even drives me insane is like, my father in law, he was a marine. My dad, he served in the military. He did like 25 years. He retired my stepdad. So I've been around military family my whole entire life. I grew up as a military kid, kid. So like, when I see people burning the American flag, it's like, dude, if you don't like the country, then get the out. Get the out. Like, if you don't like the way we run in, like, we. Like, I'm running it. But how our Americans. How Americans are running it? Get out.
B
Yeah, dude, please just leave. Like, I totally agree.
A
I'd allow some, some of my taxes to go to that. Oh, yeah, like, for.
B
Well, you just tell home and deport them too.
C
Oh, to help get people out. Yeah. Like, bro, I'm keeping my money now leave.
A
I'd rather my money go to getting Americans out of this country that don't want to be here rather than going to fucking Ukraine. Got you, Israel. You know what I'm saying? I would allow my taxes to go to that deeper American deportation.
B
Yeah, like 50 bucks. Yeah, because they're flying spirit. We'll give them a. We'll buy you a canoe and we'll stick it in the ocean. We'll fucking shove you off.
C
Yeah. Because, like, when I see them, just.
B
Don'T come back when I see them.
C
Burning the American flag. And I'm like, like, if you don't.
B
Love the country, not only that, bro, it's fake oppression. Like, oh, I'm so oppressed. It's like you're making a video crying on a $2,000 phone.
C
Yeah.
B
There are people where he's from that cannot eat.
C
Yep.
B
Okay. They're pissing and in a hole in the ground.
C
Yep.
B
You know what I mean? They're riding 10 deep on a scooter.
C
But those. Those. That's true, man. I was a man now, bro.
B
He did it.
C
Yeah.
B
Yeah. Seven people.
C
It's impressive. But I think people. The American people who. Who say they're oppressed, they haven't traveled outside for sure. The country, to see that. Right. Like, when you actually go out there and you take these. Like I tell my kids all the.
B
Time, they're like, bro, just go to Mexico. Okay? Just go to Mexico and look at the little kids come up to you selling gum.
C
Yeah.
B
You know?
C
Yeah. Or when I was in Manila, a kid came up to me, try to sell me a goldfish.
B
Yeah.
C
Was like. I was like, I got a tank dog. What am I doing? That goldfish. I'm like, here's five bucks, ten bucks. And he went off. But people who haven't seen that or experienced that, they don't know what true press is. Right. They don't know that. Right. And that's what drives me saying, and I might. I don't want to sit here and think that I know everything, but the way I feel about certain situation, about the way the world is in the economy and what the last administration has done and what the View does, it's like, God, guys, cut the bullshit. If he's breaking the law, then he's breaking the law. Like, there is no in between. And if it's a law that was put into place by forefathers, that we have to respect it. We. Somebody gets in it, you know, you're driving drunk, you. You have to have car insurance. It's against the law. You get pulled over, you don't have car insurance, you're getting a ticket. If you don't respond to the ticket, guess what? You have a fucking. A warrant out for your arrest.
B
Yeah.
C
You don't come through a warrant and go to the court. You're in fucking jail if you. You don't.
B
Yeah. It is what it is.
C
It is what it is.
B
Yeah, right, man.
C
But hey, if you don't like the way it is, you're more welcome to leave.
B
Yeah, I agree, dude. And I, I, I'm, I'm just a little bit worried about this, you know, because when we talk about, you know, we, we talk a lot about these people, the root of these people is communism. And, you know, part of what's been going on in this country for the last number of years has been a demoralization of our citizenship intentionally. And what's, what bothers me and what scares me with the position that we're in right now is that everybody seems to be happy, everybody's optimistic, and everybody's starting to regain the enthusiasm of being an American patriot. Right. So what's the easiest way to demoralize someone? It's not to continue to pound them and pound them and pound them and pound them. It's to let them up and then pound them again. And, dude, that's what I think think is I think they're going to try to do that in some way, shape or form because, you know, give everybody hope. Give everybody hope. Give everybody hope and then take it away. And that's what makes me nervous.
A
Yeah, man.
C
Yeah. I think the only way that I, that that can happen is like, like, let's say once, you know, Trump gets in office and they just start fucking cleaning house. They just start, like, they go to Colorado, it's like, you, Venezuela game, get ready. And they just, and they show all them, just wiping them out.
B
Yeah.
C
Right. Like, you go two ways. They can show up, they put their hands up.
B
Yeah.
C
Cuff.
B
Yeah. Or we could Third World this. We can scatter your brains everywhere.
C
Yeah. So it's two ways, and it's all gonna be, you know, predicated on how the media does it.
B
Yeah.
C
Like, imagine if all the deportation and we're throwing them on the ground. Get the out of here. That I. But if we did it civil and man away, it's like, hey, guys, like, do you have, do you have a green card? Do you have a papers? You don't, Unfortunately. Okay, well, let's get you in this truck. We'll get you to a nice site, and we'll get you home nice and safe and. Thank you.
B
Yeah, I don't think that's gonna happen.
C
I know, but, but if it comes in, like, get the right, right, right. Shut that fucking dog up, Pop up, like, put your hands on your. Then it's gonna go like, Then you got the view. Is this what you guys wanted to happen? You remember you guys asked for this?
B
Yes, yes, it is.
C
They're gonna spin it and they're gonna.
B
Make us feel like, yeah, but, dude, we just gotta. We just gotta own it and be like, yeah, yeah. Yes.
C
Yeah.
B
Like, when you just own, nobody can say anything.
C
Yeah, that's true.
B
Yeah.
C
Yeah, exactly. Right? So I think.
B
Yes, that's what we wanted. We wanted them gone. Now they're gone.
C
Yeah.
A
Well, I mean, there's a. There's a statement, man, that there's a famous quote. It's like, you know, everybody wants bacon. Nobody wants to see how it's made.
B
Yeah.
A
I mean, bro, like, it ain't gonna be pretty.
C
I love that.
A
It's not gonna be pretty. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? But I'd rather have that, you know.
B
As ugly, as brutal as it is gonna be ugly.
C
Yeah.
A
I would rather have.
B
It's gonna be hard for people to stomach, dude. It is.
A
But I'd rather have that than have to worry about my wife or my daughter's being assaulted by some guy that's not supposed to be here.
B
Yeah. Or be able to go out in your own city. City. I go out to dinner with your family.
A
I'll take the bacon.
B
Yeah.
A
I don't how it has to be.
C
Yeah, no, absolutely. Hey, I'm the same way.
B
Yeah.
C
I think, like, if we're gonna get demoralized.
B
Yeah.
C
Right. That's where it's come with people gonna see how the bacon is made. Yeah. They're like, holy. Right. But, you know, you could choose to be vegan.
A
Go to. Go. Go to Canada. Yeah. You know what I'm saying?
C
Yeah. No, you're right. Absolutely. So I, I like. I said I'm excited and I hope. I hope everything goes smooth. And I guess I'm excited. Like, I just want to see what's going to happen when I see Tom Holman, he goes. And he grilled AOC and he goes. The fucking code section of Da da da da.
B
She goes, oh, okay.
A
Well, I think we'll. Yeah.
C
He goes, I'm holding up the Constitution. And then I love when he's like another guy was like, do you care about. He goes, I've served this fucking country. It's like J.D. vance, big fan of him. He was like, like, like I've always felt that someone who's going to be in power of the country has to serve in military. I just think it's good, right, to actually put the boots.
B
Have a perspective.
C
Have a perspective. Like, guys, I've been over there.
B
Yeah.
C
And they don't play like.
B
Yeah.
C
You know, and I'm excited for him because he. He was a Marine, and.
B
Yeah. Well, I mean, bro, you should have some perspective on sending other people's children to war. You know, and that's one of these things. Like, you know, Trump says this about Liz Cheney.
C
Yes.
B
You know, he's like, bro, she has no perspective of violence. Like, when he got called out for that thing that he said.
C
Yep.
B
Like, first of all, it was total. What he said was. And he may not have said this the right way, but what he was saying was, let's take some of these politicians, like Liz Cheney, who love to go to war, and let's put them on the front line and see how much they like it.
C
Yep.
B
That's what he should have said.
C
Yep.
B
And it's true.
C
Yeah.
B
She has no perspective of violence. She's never gotten her ass beat, you know, I don't think so. And certainly not like men do. Yeah, right. Like, in the way that we grow up and the way that we deal with other men and how. So there's a natural respect that men have. We're like. So we understand there's consequences to violence naturally, through the way that we grow up. And if you put someone, man or woman, who doesn't ever have that perspective in charge of a military, now we're sending people to die and looking at a spreadsheet. We're not understanding the actual repercussions of someone's son or father or sister going overseas and not coming back. Like, that's a big responsibility that we should not take lightly. And, you know, that's why I can't stand these, like, Lindsey Graham who are always on TV calling to go to war. And, man, you. You go to war.
C
Yeah. I never forget when I was growing up, I had a boss. Super hardcore, hardcore Republican. I hope he's still alive. I'm not sure, but I worked at a golf course, and I'll sweep. And at the time, there was nobody there. He'll sit there, listen to news, read the newspaper, and this is by early 95, maybe 98, 95, whatnot. And he had a mindset. He goes, you know how to get rid of aids, dj? I was like, no. He goes, you take everybody who has age, you put them on a fucking island, let them die. AIDS would be gone right then. He was like, when we went to Iraq, we're having all that stuff. He goes, it's fucking pitiful. It's just horrible. I'm like, what's wrong? His name was Ed Gleason, and he Goes, you know how you take care of this war? I was like, how? He goes, you pull every American citizen out of there. You fucking bomb it. You just bomb it. And he goes. And I was like, you just gonna kill these people? He goes, well, the ideology of these people is to hate. And he goes, and we're over there fighting a war for oil, whatever it may be. What do you think their kids are going to do when they, when they're going to get older? You think they're like, oh, I want to change centuries and centuries and centuries, but if you go over there and you bomb it and you just wipe out the face of earth. Granted, you know, I'm a child at this point.
B
Yeah.
C
Listen to an adult.
B
Yeah.
C
Who's like, you know, give my first job. I'm like, I sit there and I'm like, that is kind of interesting. You would never have, hopefully the word is you never have aids. And then you would never have this ideology that always wants to spread hate or have their own way, like, woman, you can't read. You can't do, da da, da, da.
A
It's like, we have a great relationship with Japan.
C
What's that? Yeah, yeah, exactly. Because what do we do? We drop the fucking bomb on them. And they're like, don't fucking do anything again. Like, so.
B
Well, I mean, look, there has to be an establishment of respect for that to happen. Yeah, but I, you know, I used to think that same shit, dude, but then I realized, like, like, we're going there and we're like, with their. And like, like, how would we feel.
C
If somebody came far?
B
Oh, yeah, like, like, bro, and, and that lends to your argument. Like, it, it solidifies it. Because, like, dude, what if we were here and we're all sitting here talking right now? We're like, yeah, the, all those Chinamen came over here and they killed my dad. And you're like, yeah, bro, they got my brother.
C
I'll be mad.
B
Right, right. Forever.
C
Forever.
B
Forever, dude. And, like, that's the problem with, you know, us being the, the, you know, iron fist of globalists, which is what our country has become. We are no longer. Well, I think we're getting back to this now, but for a while, for a long while, we have been, we have been told to be patriotic, and we have been told that we are the good guys. And I, I, I'll be real, dude. I don't know that we've always been the good guys. I think we've been. And I think our soldiers are the good guys. I Think our people are the good guys, but we are manipulated to go fight a lot of these wars. And a lot of this based upon pretenses that aren't good or true. Yeah. Or even true.
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I mean, that's the other.
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And, dude, that's the problem, dude. And that's why when Trump was in office, he didn't have any wars, because he understands that.
C
Yeah.
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You know, we shouldn't be sending guys over these other places because these douchebags are going to make some money, dude.
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I think the hardest thing, like, you guys can correct me if I'm wrong. Like, you know, you talk about. We're on the subject of war. You look at what's going over in Iran with Israel, Hamas and all that stuff, and it's like, okay, you know, one side of Hamas, they started a war with the other side, right? Dropping in fucking parachutes, fucking killing people for no reason for. For a war that's been going on for so, so, so long. Right. Right now, am I wrong that we should not get involved? Like, I feel like, no, we shouldn't get involved.
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No.
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Right, because you're not wrong at all.
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Now when we have fucking hundred thousand fucking veterans on the street and, like, we got all these problems over here, bro.
C
Yeah.
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Like, I agree with you. We should be America first.
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Yeah, we should. We shouldn't get involved because we had nothing to do with that. Right. But I feel. And my dad was teaching me, he's like, it's called like a proxy war, right? Like, you know, Russia. Russia stopped buying oil from us. Or, or we. Something happened. But now Russia was like, you know, why don't we buy oil from America? That sounds. That sounds pretty good now, right? I heard her come out and say that. Lng. But it's like, that's what makes me sad. It's like, okay, we have these two part of the world. They're fighting each other because they want it like Russia and Ukraine. Russia wants Ukraine and they want to become that powerhouse again. And then we're sending aid to Ukraine. It's like, man, it's like. Like, if you do it, then that Russia goes, why you sending money? Like you want these problems?
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Right?
C
Or it's like, I feel like we're in this con. It's like, how do you solve world peace but when we cannot, you know?
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Well, you got to take away the profits.
C
Yeah, that's.
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That's the thing. This is all about money, bro. These at the top, Raon, Boeing, Lockheed, Boeing, these guys are some of the biggest lobbyists in the world. They, they contribute to these political campaigns. Political campaigns. Pay them X amount over. Like let's say a bomb really costs a thousand bucks making it up. Yeah, they pay a million bucks and they get to keep half of the over and then they re donate, you know, so like, you know what I'm saying? So, so at the bottom they bill us a million dollars when it really only cost a thousand. The 999,000 that's left over, they split, right? And they take that. So then Lockheed or whatever, like I'm speculating, Locke, you using them as a placeholder. Then they take that, the half of that 500 grand, right. And they donate that into various political campaigns so that the wars continue to operate, man. And like, dude, we take away the ability to. For these politicians to get donations from the military industrial complex from big farmers. Yeah, you name it. Yeah, that has to be eliminated, dude, because if we take away the profits, then there's no incentive.
C
Yeah.
B
Right now we're thinking with our heads, not our fucking greedy, you know, dicks. You know what I'm saying?
C
Yeah. Like it's kind of crazy. Like if that's true, he puts her out there again. If that's true, it's like, damn, they, they over there fighting and killing each other just for profits and money. It's like you, you thought parachuting down on people who have a good festival was okay to, to make money. Like, that's why I'm confused.
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Well, I mean, I think the, the issue is, bro, like, I mean, I mean you're a good dude.
C
Yeah.
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Most people are good people.
C
Yeah.
A
And sometimes there's like, we could be naive to assume that like evil exists. Like evil people fucking exist.
C
Yeah.
A
There's bacon that has to be made.
C
Yeah.
A
You know what I'm saying? There's people who could care less at the end result because they're so far removed from having to deal with those issues. Right. I mean even the Israel, Palestine conflict, like, bro, Israel as a country, right. Is one of the strongest, most affordable, like formidable countries, defense wise.
C
Yeah.
A
Both geographically. I mean the, the, the tech, the technologies that they have. How did, how were like, bro, a cockroach cannot cross the border into Israel without Israel knowing.
C
Yeah.
B
Yeah.
C
How do these guys fucking how.
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You know what I'm saying?
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So like not only that let you know, like there's just so much, much. Look, you can, you can't talk about the truth of Israel because everybody calls you anti Semitic. It's not, it's so, it's so aggressively Defended socially in conversation that nobody can talk about it. And that's a big problem, you know, we talk about all the time. Yeah, but the thing is, is that because it's not against Jewish people, it's against the corrupt government. Just like our American people is not our American government. The Jewish people are not the Israeli government either. Either. Okay? So the Israeli government straight up lies, okay? They're killing all these kids. They're do. But then we don't, you know, we hear, oh, Hamas flew their paragliders over our supposedly in penetrable iron Dome, right. We, we blew up a cockroach yesterday with the 50 cal. But these guys flew over to fence undetected. Yeah, our Right. And then we don't talk about like the, the conflicts that have been happening in the street where, you know, is. IDF soldiers have been like, just harassing and, and shooting kids for throwing a rock at them, you know, like that. Like there's, there's no effort there for any sort of reconciliation. And it's a big problem because how do you solve that? Right? Right. And so like, dude, we can't just like, like, we can't just say, oh, Israel's the good guys and these guys are the bad guys. Like, it's just not that simple. It's just not simple. Every conflict that's ever been fought in the history of time, do you think either side thought they were the bad guys?
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No.
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You know what I'm saying?
C
It's like, I was like, we're the bad guys, right?
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Yeah.
C
Like, dude, they think they're in the right and they. And the other side thinks they're in the right.
B
And it's hard to solve that conflict when it's been going on for thousands thousand years.
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Especially when you start throwing some money in there.
C
Yeah.
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Makes it even more complicated.
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And so, like, dude, it's really frustrating that people just jump on either side of the thing, but I will and I do jump on the side, but the side ain't either one of their sides, right? It's our side. It's your kids, it's your kids. It's all these people here. It's our citizens in this country who work their entire lives to pay the government money that just gets squandered and stolen and funneled back into these people's pockets. It's. Bro, we are oppressed financially by our own government. And we have a chance right now for that to all get unwound. And it's very exciting because, dude, I really am a believer in Vivek I don't know any of these other guys personally, really. Eric Schmidt, Andrew Bailey, but I really think he's. I think these dudes are going to do this. And, bro, if. If. If Elon and Vivek do what they know how to do, we're. We're going to be freed from our oppressive government. It's very exciting.
A
It's going be awesome, man.
C
Guys, the golden age.
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For real. Yeah, dude, for real. And people, People that are against it, like, saying, oh, I can't believe they put you on in there.
C
Why not?
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You're gonna love it when you're taking home twice as much money, dude, and you're not struggling the way you are. And all these other things that we've had to deal with.
C
Yeah. For somebody, for somebody who's willing to spend his own money to put. To get us in space.
B
Right.
C
His only. And give Starlink. I want to give Starlink to everybody. If you're in Africa and you don't have Internet, I want you to have Internet.
B
Yeah.
C
Why would you want that on our side?
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Yeah, it.
C
Well, mind blown to me, it's like, guys, if he was like, I want to give people Starlink so they can just, you know. Well, they hate spy on them, then. Yeah, maybe not.
B
But they hate Elon for a very simple reason. It's this African American. Yeah. No, yeah, technically, we're so racist.
A
I mean, where's all the DEI people, bro? You got an Indian and a fucking gonna root for.
B
Yeah. What the.
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At.
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Yeah. You guys. Bunch of hypocrites. Yeah. So, dude, here's the thing.
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Trump's dei.
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Yeah. Here's the thing about Elon, okay? Elon took their main weapon away from them, and their weapon was Twitter. And they were allowed for years, over decade to run Twitter unabated with favorable algorithms for their opinions and suppression of everybody else. Elon came in and said, no, we're not doing that. We're going to see the real temperature. And so he took away their biggest advantage, which was the advantage of illusion. Okay. They had the advantage as a small vocal minority to appear as if they were the majority because of the technological algorithms that were being put down across. Across all social media. Elon exposed that. So. And that this is why they hate him so much. Because now, just like you said, they're. They're in the ocean and the ocean has receded and it's, you know, they're a bunch of little soy shriveled dicks. Yeah, right.
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I got a big thing. He goes, are you, dude? Yeah, I Actually tucked it in. So you didn't see.
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Water's cold.
B
Come on. That's right. That's right, dude. But that's the truth. And so they are exposed and they don't like it.
C
Yep.
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So that's that.
A
Yeah.
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You know, and dude, these other social media companies are going to have to follow suit. In fact, dude, I can tell you, I know Met is doing it because my story views are fucking triple what they were even the day before Trump's election. So legitimately, triple.
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I believe it. Yeah, I believe it. Well, and here's the thing I'll never forget what Elon Musk stuff on. He goes, are you going to try to bribe me with money? Go fuck yourself. Yeah, go fuck yourself.
B
Yeah.
C
And that's one of the things I love about him. And that. No, he's not, he's not corruptible. He's not corruptible. Right. How do you corrupt their cop? Hey, man, I'll give you all this cocaine and money. You can sell it and re up it. But the cop was like, no, I got, I got plenty, plenty of money. Wife and kids are good.
B
No, well, that's also why we should be taking tax dollars and paying these cops what they deserve to be paid. Bro, they do the most dangerous job in the world. They deal with all these drunks, all these alcoholics, the, the, the problems of society. They have all this, they see all this horrible. And we're paying them 70 grand. That's bro. But we're sending, you know, hundreds of billions of dollars to all these causes all over the world. How about this? How about take some of that money and give it to our people who actually keep order in society and pay them well so that they, they are comfortable, they're able to deal with the. And, and they're not having to stretch like, bro, imagine being a cop and having to deal with all this and then deal with money at home. Home. That's up. Dude, that's not right.
C
Like, when you put in that perspective, like, imagine like, it's like, hey, hey, Ukraine, we're not gonna send you all this money. We, we got to take care of our own. And people like, how could you do that? It's like, I'm trying to make sure Johnny on the street is getting, you know, so much money that he's here willing to keep you safe and all that stuff, right?
B
And what if, what if we were paying? What if these police officers made 200, 300 grand off of the fucking government? What kind of people would we attract to be cops?
C
A lot of people, great people, were like, you think I'm gonna.
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When I was a kid, it was a popular thing to say. I want to be a cop, I want to be a firefighter, I want to be a teacher. Well, we have to create those careers to be, you know, financially beneficial enough to attract people to want to do that. We can't just say, oh, it's honorable thing. And by the way, no money for you.
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Here's 50 grand.
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Yeah, that's up.
A
Yeah, man. Guys, jump in on this conversation. Let us know what you guys think down in the comments. With that being said, let's get to our second headline, headline number two. Headline number two reads, let's talk about Diddy.
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Is it?
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Let's talk about Diddy. Ray J claims celebs told him they are afraid of Diddy affiliation and have paid alleged victims to keep quiet. This is an interesting little update on the Diddy scandal.
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Ray J, any the dude to bang Kardashian on the video?
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Yeah, he's Kim Kardashian's ex boyfriend. Okay. They. They did have a sex tape actually.
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Yeah, I think that's like what brought her out, isn't it?
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Yeah, yeah, that's. That's how I found about, actually.
A
Yeah.
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I ain't going to lie. I had to take a peek, see what's going on. You know, everybody did, bro.
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Billionaire, huh? And I said, now she's a billionaire.
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I mean, would you. Would you trade a sex tape for a billion dollars?
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Yes.
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No.
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Yes. It'd be go viral too.
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All yours. Would.
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Big boss putting it down?
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Yeah, bro, it'd be like one of the 30 second previews.
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A billion dollars is a billion dollars. It is what it is.
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Dj, you get to edit that video. They usually say if you want to see the full one.
C
Yeah.
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Dj, do you guys gonna say sorry. That's it, folks. Bugs Buddy's gonna show up on the thing.
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It is what it is, man. It's a billion dollars.
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I agree.
A
Billion dollars.
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I agree. I get on there with the littlest dick ever, dude.
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Million dollars.
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Yeah. I wouldn't even care. Check out my lifesaver.
A
You know what I'm saying? But yeah, let's talk about this daddy situation, this new development. So Kim Kardashian ex boyfriend Ray J has claimed that some celebrities have told him that they are afraid that their affiliation with Diddy could land them in trouble and have even paid alleged victims in order to keep them quiet. Now, the 43 year old singer who claimed he was shot at two weeks after his Heated fight with Diddy's son appeared in a sneak peek at TMZ's new Tubi documentary the Downfall of Diddy Inside the Freak off where he made the bold claims in the two minute clip, he has interviewed with TMZ boss Harvey Levin as he made the bombshell revelation that some high profile people who are connected to Diddy are trying to pay off alleged victims before accusations come to light in order to keep their names out the mess. Ray J said, quote, I am hearing about artists paying victims to keep their name out of it. Now we all know Diddy was charged with the host of sex trafficking and racketeering offenses following his September 16th arrest. Here is the clip from this little trailer documentary.
B
I was at one of P. Diddy's freak offs. You saw celebrities there that you recognized.
C
It was a rapper that we all know.
B
Straight up porn directed by Diddy. I'm just grateful to have made it out.
C
I'm hearing about artists paying victims to keep their name out of it.
B
Do you know people who have had demands put upon them where they have paid off to keep this quiet?
C
Here's what I do know. People do catch and kills all day and a. Catch and kill. I don't know if of course you know, but for the regular world, somebody has the truth, somebody pays you to keep it quiet.
B
And hopefully that money that you got.
C
Paid secures your happiness while you watch the lie continue to succeed.
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I want, just to make sure I understand you, what you're saying is what? That you know people who have been approached by women, men, whatever, who have said give me money and I won't talk.
C
Here's the other way around that. Harvey, I'll give you money. Please don't talk.
B
You are a well connected guy, do you know that? What you've just described, is that going on now? Yes, of course that's going on.
C
Yeah, it's been going on for ages and ages. Ages. Yeah, they just got caught.
B
That's right. And by the way, by the way, the other part of that statement is here's some money, please don't say anything. And if you say anything, I'm going to fucking kill you. That's how these people operate. Okay, so, so he, he seems like he's pretty scared to even say it. Yeah, but that's what they do.
C
I mean, I think the interesting thing about. Is there more video you have to play or is that it?
A
No, that's, that's the video.
C
Yeah, I've seen that. I think the interesting thing about the whole. Diddy thing is one. How long were they on to him for? Right?
B
Because I think he worked with them. I think he was an asset Who.
C
No, not Ray J.
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Did he.
C
No, no, not Diddy. I'm curious. How long was the agency, FBI, CIA, Were they after him? Like.
A
No, no, no, no.
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What I'm saying is agencies. I'm saying he was part of the. Yeah, 100%, dude. Okay?
C
It's like Epstein, they knew what was going on.
B
No, no, no, no.
C
Okay, okay, listen.
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Epstein and fucking Diddy.
C
Yes.
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Are part of the CIA and the Mossad to blackmail celebrities into per. Putting out social narratives at will. For example, us three are sitting at a bar in Vegas, okay? And we're sitting at the lobby bar at Aria, all right? We're chilling. We're drinking.
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Not a gay bar.
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Here comes Diddy. Okay? We're. Or Epstein with either one of them. Let's just say Epstein. Epstein comes walking up, because we don't. We would never really recognize Epstein. Yeah, we would all know Diddy. So Epstein comes walking up, and he's like, hey, guys. What's up, dude? And we're like, who the is this guy? And he starts talking to us. Get along with him. He's a charming guy. We sits down, has some dreams. Hey, I got my own island, dude. I got my plane right here.
C
Yeah.
B
McCarran, five minutes. You guys want to go? Let's go.
C
Yeah.
B
Okay. So we fly down to Epstein Island. We're drinking the whole time we get there. It's beautiful. We're having drinks this, that, the other. And then all of a sudden, there's some girls that show up, right? And the girls will show up. You know, they look young, 25, hot, but they're 15, okay? And then they get. They get you on film doing all kinds of whatever you do. And it doesn't have to be much. It could just be socializing with them.
A
It could be rubbing your shoulders.
C
Yeah, yeah, right?
B
Then you leave, and then you get a phone call. The phone call goes like this. Hey, hey, hey, dj, I'm gonna need you to make this post. You're like, I'm not making that post. I'm. I don't believe in that.
C
Yeah.
B
Oh, well, here. Look at this. Here's this video of you doing that, okay? And this is how they do that. This is why when. When celebrities, like, crisis has happened, such as Covid, okay? You have all the big celebrities, all of them saying the same three or four lines, right? So this. All of this. This is my opinion. I don't I actually know this to be true from people who know it to be true. But I'm going to say it's my opinion. Epstein, Diddy, two sides of the same coin. Epstein was for the wealthy business industrialists, the CEOs, big, big dog, big dogs. Diddy's for the entertainment industry. Okay. All the celebrities, all that. So when you could coordinate the titans of industry.
C
Yep.
B
With celebrity culture and control the narrative, that's how you get all this communist progressive out as and to become popular. That's what I'm observing and what I've heard from people that would know. Yeah.
A
What happens when you don't want to post that tweet or post that. You know, I'm saying what happens when you don't go along with the narrative?
B
Yeah.
C
They're going to remove you.
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You get outcasted. You're no longer the big MMA fighter. You're no longer the. You don't get the movies in Hollywood no more. You don't get the record labels.
C
You don't.
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You get outcasted.
C
Yeah.
A
And we've seen that with plenty of people in the industry that like, you know, all of a sudden, look at Mel Gibson. They're just out.
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Hold on. Look at Mel Gibson. Mel Gibson is one of the greatest actors, greatest producers, greatest writers ever. Okay. They kick him out of Hollywood because he. He fucking says this is the way it is. And then he goes on and funds his own successful movies. Not everybody can do that.
C
Yep.
A
Now the other part of it too, man, is that like, you know, that's just Epstein and Diddy that we know about.
B
How many more?
C
Yeah.
A
Those two industries, like.
C
Yes.
A
There's one in the, in the, in the fucking country music industry. There's gonna be one like, bro, they're. They're all.
B
Yeah. So I don't, I don't think, I don't think it was ever that they were on to him.
C
Yeah.
B
I think what happened was they got to a point where too much was getting out. Like, I bet you did. He sitting in jail right now being like them. They. Me, they had me do all this, collect all this, and that's why they kill Epstein. And I believe they'll kill Diddy too, before he gets a chance to tell people what the happened.
A
I think so, too.
C
Yeah. I. I hope my dad was actually in Mel Gibson's last movie, Boneyard in. In Vegas. I hope, I hope that we get to find out because, you know, growing up in the 90s, I love bad boy entertainment. I love, I love the music. It's great, huh?
A
That was beautiful.
C
Thanks, man. My wife said, I'm telling that, but I totally disagree with her. But he had all these amazing things, and here's, you know, once again, somebody who's in power, makes all this money, and then you pull. The ocean recedes.
B
Yes.
C
You know, it's like he's got all these fucking skeletons in his, you know, in his feet. So I'll be curious to see what happens. Like, I'm.
B
If it wasn't that, okay, if it wasn't that, then why are these people so fucking afraid?
C
I don't know. That's what I'm shocked by. Like, why not just like. Like, guys, this would happen.
B
Yeah. And we had some freaky fucking parties.
C
Yeah.
B
Hey, People were doing some weird shit.
C
Yeah.
B
But that's that.
C
That's that.
B
Okay. That's what the narrative would be if it wasn't what I'm saying it is.
C
Yeah, exactly. That's what I mean. Like, I. That's the hardest thing, right? Is that we don't. We. And we might never know the fucking truth.
B
Yeah.
C
Because all we know, if he is in with the agencies, then they're like, okay, we're gonna release this, this, this, and that's it. Where I like to think that the agencies weren't involved. I would like to think the agencies were like, okay, you know, we're gonna keep an eye on D. We have a couple things, but we'll make sure what we see is legit. Right. Next thing you know, they raid his house. They get all the files and all that stuff. They're like, yep, what we suspect it was true. We had this person there. This person there. He was sex trafficking, all that stuff. And then if that. If we hear an opinion, I want to hear from the horse's mouth. I want to hear Diddy, like, yeah, man. Like, I got concourse into doing this type of style of. Of lifestyle, you know, the sex trafficking. I'm guilty of all that. Like, not one person has ever stepped up and said, yeah, I'm a wild. Yeah, I like the baby oil and all that. I have farmers and he goes, pharmaceutical companies. Yeah. I had them lace that baby oil. That's why I had all the bottles, 10,000 bottles laced with, you know, fentanyl. Right. Just. I just want somebody to come up and own the. Yeah, right. That's why I'm excited.
B
They won't allow that to happen.
C
Why not?
B
Because, bro, it'll implicate our own agencies.
A
Yeah. Not only that. I mean, like, bro, they. They said it during the Epstein situation, the judge said himself, like, you know, all of the witness testimony that was going on during that time, like during the Ghislaine Maxwell trial, you know, they. There were names that were named.
C
Yeah.
A
The judge ordered that.
B
That redacted. Yeah.
C
Oh, wow. Why?
B
Wow.
A
Why? And was they. They said why? They said because it implicates too many people in high level positions that are. That are implicate them.
C
Well, what was the one thing that at the first time they caught him, it was at like a FBI level.
B
Yeah.
C
And then it was like, that was early. That was early on.
B
Yeah. And then. And then he kept going.
C
He kept on going. Yeah. They released him. Oh, it's fine. We'll take care of it. Then eventually was like, okay. And I, I took that as a sign that, like, hey. The FBI was like, hey, we've been on for a long time, but thank you for this evidence. Yeah, we're gonna let him go because we want a bigger fucking fish.
B
That. That could be possible. That could be possible. Like, hey, you're gonna work for us now. Yeah.
C
You're working.
B
At some point he. They crossed that over. If he wasn't manufactured.
C
Yeah, if it wasn't. But like, once again, that's what. That gets me excited. It's like if Diddy was working with the agency, right. I like to believe that he wasn't. Right. But we all don't know. But if he was like, no, I'm like, because imagine that if you. All this money, you have the biggest fucking parties. You get LeBron James coming there. And then LeBron James, L.A. lakers. And you got him in a room cheating on his wife, you got him doing coke. And he goes, I got that. Then you got somebody else. I got that too. He has all these things in his back pocket. And for him, egotistically, he's like, I'm the. I'm the Godfather, right? I'm the godfather. I run fucking high. Because sometimes going my way. And then especially how he did with Cassie walking out, like, that's somebody who's a power hungry that's always looking for that ride.
B
Cassie.
C
Cassie was the girl that he was dating at the time. Where was that?
B
The one that tried to escape. And he pulled her back.
C
Pulled her back. Yeah, yeah.
B
He chased her down the hall naked.
C
Yes, something like that. That right there. There's something about that man. Right? And then you have JLo, somebody said, why should we take JLo's endorsement for Kama Worth, for Kamala when she was around Diddy at these fucking Diddy parties. And they never warned anyone about that, right? So I feel that Diddy is a mastermind behind the closed door that maybe the agency knew about the whole entire time. And they were like, you know what? Nobody's died yet. Let's see how long this freaked off parties keep on going. It's almost like, you know, he's robbing the store and nobody's batting the eye at him. Like, we're gonna keep Lindisco. We're gonna see how big this fucking pot can get. And he was like, okay, guys, now it's time.
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Yeah, baby, tell me, okay, what you think. But how? How? Okay, if that's the case, then why has nobody said shit about it until now?
C
I know, that's the kicker. Why not?
A
Immunity does exist, you know, like, there's immunity deals that should exist.
C
Yeah, yeah.
A
You know what I'm saying? Because right now Diddy's not saying shit. So, okay, cool. You guys got the big fish. But like, well, why? It wasn't just him.
C
Well, how? The question would be, like, why hasn't he said anything yet? Like, why haven't they gave him a day in court? Like, all right, trial date is set for Da da da da. We fast forward to that day. All right? It's Diddy versus New York City or the world. Okay, Diddy, let's take a look at this video right here. Review. Fucking plug in this 15 year old girl.
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Yeah.
C
Why don't you explain yourself what's going on here? You know she's underage, right? Like, yeah, let. Let it play out. Like, it's like Tory Lanez.
B
Yeah, they're not gonna do that, bro. Right?
C
It was like, Tory Lanez. Like, I don't know if you know a story about Tory Lanez and Megan Sally, but it's like there was four in the car. Four. And all they heard was gunshots. And everybody was like, oh, Tori. Nobody would come out and say who did what. Nobody would come out. And then they did the investigation. They're like, oh, they're throwing Tori behind, Dorian. They never got the fingerprints on the gun. They never tested anything. Everybody just says it was Tory Lanez. And then Megan Thee stallion's friend, just went quiet. And it's like the judge won't give him another trial or anything. They're just like swept it on the rug. So I feel like there has to come a point in time that we're gonna have to hear from Diddy and just to hear what the fuck was happening. And releasing tapes, like, was LeBron James there was fucking Ray J. There. There. Who was, was, was who was there, Right? And I just hate. Like, they're building up. This is the suspense of, like, well, we don't want to hear from Diddy or. Yeah.
B
I don't know.
C
Pizza boxes. Telling us, kids, get rid of the pizza boxes. Like, man, your pizza boxes. Or what's in those pizza boxes. Pizza boxes. It's.
B
I think there's a lot. I think there's a lot here. I think it's a lot deeper than what people think.
C
I can't wait. Yeah, I can't wait, wait. Like, even Epstein. Like, I didn't know anything about Epstein, but when I sat down, watched the documentary, I was like, what the, bro?
B
When I. I was in British Virgin Islands, or. I'm sorry, U. S. Virgin Islands, where his. His Island's called Little St. James. And I was down there, like, 2015. We were out on a boat and we were talking. Like, we went by the island, and the captain of the boat, you know, and obviously, he could be full of.
C
Yeah.
B
But he's like. Like. He's like, yeah, dude. He's like, that's one of the biggest sex trafficking operations that's ever existed. He's like. And there was helicopter landing. And he's like, you see that helicopter? And I'm like, yeah. He's like, they fly these girls down. And then he said, that helicopter fly back and forth six, seven times a day.
C
Wow.
B
Yeah. He's like. And there's always young girls on it. Like, not young girls. Like, 22. Yeah.
C
Like 15. Yes. Yeah. I think the unfortunate thing about our society and how the world works is that you never think about. You hear about the black web, the dark web. You hear about it and, you know, I run a discord. I run, like, I have my community. And one of the guys wasn't there for a long time. I was like, fuck, man. Where's this guy at? Where the fuck's he at? And I have a guy who kind of like, does all, like, the cybersecurity shit. And he goes, hey, I want to bring this to your attention. I know you're very busy. And he goes, hey, this is why this guy hasn't been around. Kind of find out this guy had so many underage children on his SD drive that he got off the black web. And I'm like, what the. And I knew this guy. I hung out with this guy.
B
Yeah.
C
Hung out with him. He's been in one of my fights, bro. I'm like, what the. And sure enough, like, then he, he was in military, he went into court and all that stuff and all came out, but he, his response to him getting caught was how he got caught, tell you that real quick, is that he took his SD card to a manufacturer that does 3D printing. And when you want 3D printing done, you take it there. Like, hey, this is why I want 3D printed. So you give it to them and they go through the files and they do it right. They have the schematics on there. He gave them the wrong SD card. The SD card had a whole bunch of little children on there. Butt, ass naked.
B
Holy sh.
C
And then the girl who took it from him called the authorities. The authorities came to him, grabbed all his shit, all his hard drives, all that stuff.
B
Was his name Tim Wall?
C
No, it wasn't. It wasn't him. But that's where it hit. Close to home. To me, the Dark Web is you hear about all the time.
B
Oh, no, it's real.
C
But for me, that's where he was, bro.
A
It's out there, bro.
C
Yeah, I was, I was like, I told my wife, I was like, I said, I sent her the article and she goes, why you send me this picture of this creepy ass dude? I was like, look closer at the name. She goes, what the fuck?
B
Yeah.
C
And sure enough, like, so this hits home. Like with D, it's like, yeah, you.
B
Know, you never know, dude.
C
You never.
B
Yeah, you never know. We just had a situation where a dude that we knew got popped by for, for financial crimes, like to the tune of like half a billion dollars. Yeah. And this guy, I mean, bro, we knew this dude now. Good. Yeah.
C
He goes, no wonder he had that goddamn Lamborghini. I knew Southern was fishy. Works at McDonald's.
A
Yeah, it's not good, man. Yeah, man, guys jumping on this conversation let us know what you guys think down in the comments. With that being said, let's get to our third and final headline. Headline number three. Another situation want to talk about has a new development. The Daniel Penny situation up in New York.
B
That guy, the, the soldier who, who choked out that. So there was a guy on the subway who was terrorizing the subway.
C
Okay.
B
He restrained him and the guy ended up dying. And then they, they. They're prosecuting him for. For murder. Wow. Yeah.
A
So this happened last year back in June. This is the original article. New York grand jury indicts Daniel Penny and chokehold death of Jordan Neely. So this is again, this happened over a year ago, but yeah, Daniel Penny, the 24 year old white man Was captured on video placing Neely, a black farmer, street performer with a history of homelessness and mental health issues, and a chokehold old that turned deadly during a subway ride in Manhattan on May 1st of 2023. The footage sparked outrage and protests, racial and political overtones. Some suggested that Neely's death resembled the 2020 police killing of George Floyd. All of this crazy stuff that happened during the trial, trials were going on for a minute. Now they've brought in these use of force experts and I thought that, you know, I think we have a use of force expert here.
C
I think I am too.
A
So I'd love to get your take on some of the stuff that they're, they're bringing in. But they, they brought this guy in. His name's Dr. John R. Black, a retired police lieutenant, an expert witness in cases involving high stress, decision making and lethal force. He broke down the case, says, quote, a tragedy has occurred on all sides. And the best thing that we can do before we pass judgment, judgment is to truly try to understand how these things occur, both from a sense making, decision making standpoint, the choices of the actor, as well as by an evidence based standpoint about what truly occurs and what the science shows. So he goes and talks about these choke holds.
B
Yep.
A
All right. He says, quote, in some places it's referred to as a lateral vascular neck restraint, which is the idea of shutting down the blood flow to the brain. Black said the blood carries oxygen. If that occurs for enough time, depending on the person's state of arousal, how much, how much under stress they are, the person that is having a chokehold applied to them, basically, they go unconscious. He says, he continues to say, says the, quote, the crook of the arm cradles the airway, does not collapse the airway, but the pressure is on the right and left carotid artery. Borton said that's called the lateral vascular neck restraint. That causes again, a momentary outage in consciousness and the officers are able to safely detain or control the subject. Otherwise out of control. But then they go to say that that's what caused it. That's what caused the death was the lateral vascular neck restraint. Now, there's other things that have developed in this situation, too. Apparently one of the guys go back and read that.
C
You, you got me. I gotta know everything now if I'm gonna give honest opinion. No, no, go back.
A
Says choke hold. What they're saying caused the death. They said, Black said that another type of choke hold that is, that has a different intent. And he says, quote, in contrast we also use the word chokehold for the shutting down of the airway. Black said usually it would normally also occur with some sort of potential damage. Now, Borden said that the different types of restraints can appear similar on video. Video. He said public response to fatal incidents has led to police departments banning the lateral vascular neck restraints. Says, quote, no matter what the circumstances, the appearances cause an emotional conductive belief that the chokehold is what caused the death. Borden said. And on top of that, there's been some. Some updates. Apparently one of the guys who actually helped Daniel Penny help to restrain the gentleman, he lied a little bit about this, about his story, but he's been getting a lot of support in the courtroom from other witness testimonies are saying, like, yeah, no, this guy was freaking the out. I was scared to death. And Daniel Penny kind of restrained him. The Daniel Penny didn't. I'm sorry, not Daniel, baby. Jordan Neely did not die on the subway. He died hours later at the hospital. You know, but he was in a manic episode. And so there's a lot of interesting stuff going on.
B
What was the official cause of death?
C
Yeah, yeah. Like, what was the optimism? Heart attack. Was there blood in it? Excuse me, Was there. What's the one that go for? Was there any drugs involved? The toxology report. Was there any. You know, was he under the influence?
B
His death was ruled. Go back. His death was back his. Right there. His death was ruled a homicide by compression of the neck.
A
There we go.
C
Okay. So from my understanding of applying a choke to so many people is that when you choke somebody out, they go unconscious. And then the reason why they go unconscious because there's no blood flow to the brain. But once you release the choke hold, blood flow should resume back to the brain. And that's why they have that body restarts re kicks and they should be fine. Now, in some cases that I've been told is that when you choke somebody out and you hold it longer and then the blood doesn't get the opportunity to go back to the brain, then you become brain dead and you potentially die high. There's also cases I've heard that if somebody has like, you know, a nodule in their brain or an aneurysm is like where a blood vessel blows on your brain. I believe that can also happen. Or if he was choking him out and let's say he's choking him out, they're both standing up and then he falls asleep, he lets him go, he falls down and boom, hits his head hard. That is Another cause of death of the traumas of the head. So I think I don't. Once again, what's the medical history? Street? What's the toxology report was he on? You know, all that plays it, I feel plays a factor. But if I was to put this gentleman in a chokehold and let go when he passed out, he should come back to life. If everything's healthy and his brain's healthy, his heart's good, the chokehold should not kill him. Now, if I keep that chokehold longer, like, you know, so his blood is getting.
B
Yeah, but that's still not collapsing the airway.
C
Exactly right. And like, you're.
B
You're. I've been choked out, dude. Like, it. It. I got choked out for fun one time at a party, cuz I want to know what the. It was like, bro, I got white people, bro. Yeah.
C
When I was a kid, I did that.
B
Yeah.
A
Oh, man.
C
Boom. And my.
B
My buddy John, he fought mma and he. I wanted to see what it was like. So he choked me out, bro. It was crazy. Like, I was there and he was doing it, and then I woke up up, and. And I didn't remember what the. He was. I didn't remember for, like, 10 seconds that I had told him to do that. I was like, where the am I? Like, I had woke up from the deepest sleep ever.
C
So it's like, crazy. What's that thing you get when you get in surgery?
B
Anesthesia.
C
Anesthesia. It's like that. It's like.
B
Yeah. You come back and you're like. It takes you a minute to figure out what's going on. Is that why when dudes get knocked out, like, then they wake up and they're, like, confused. Yeah, same thing.
C
Yeah. When I got knocked out, mine was more like a boom. And I went numb. But I knew everything that was going on, right? I see my eyes and I fell down and I'm like. And he goes. He goes, got your mother? Hits me. I'm just like.
B
Did you say that?
C
Shoot. No.
B
My mind.
C
I'm sure he did. He goes, got you. But my mind, I remember I got hit. I was like, oh, I went down. I couldn't move. I just went, like, numb. And my eyes. Eyes were open. And then I. I felt the punches hit me. It was like. Like hard. But I can feel like your body's numbing. You're just absorbing the energy. And then after I got done, I was like. I get up, and then the ref comes to me. He goes. He goes, are you okay? I was like, yeah, I'm all right. I got right where. When you get knocked out, like, when I knock people out, like, when I knocked out Joseph Navidas, I hit him so hard, and I hit him where he was like. Like, he's just that comatose. Yeah. He wakes up, he goes, what happened? What the happened? So it's like two different. Where you get that numb. Or if you get choked out, it's like. I remember. I never forget. I choked my buddy out. Like, I had him in a deep guillotine. And he didn't tap, but I can feel his body go limp.
B
Yeah.
C
And so I. I let go, and he was in my lap. I was like, drew.
B
Drew.
C
And I start rubbing his shots. I wake the up. He goes, what happened? I was like, fuck, man, you didn't tag me now. And he goes, oh, fuck. I was like, fuck. So, like, when I was going chase, me and Chase were grappling. I had him in a chokehold, right? And it's. It's Chaz, my. Excuse me, Chaz. I was fucking close. I got one letter wrong. It was. Yeah. So I'm choking him out, and then he's like. I'm like, are you okay? And he goes, yeah, man. I'll tap. I was like, some don't tap, right? And I'm sitting, holding, and I'm like, you're not going to tap. All right. I didn't choke him, but then when I got him in the triangle, I was like, all right, you will feel it today. And I had that triangle on him for, like, at least 45 minutes. Like, not. Excuse me. 45 seconds. Just hold it, hold it, hold it. Holding. Hold it. He's getting out. He's trying to get out. And eventually he tapped, and I was like, okay, you tap. Okay.
B
Thank you.
C
I'm glad you.
A
Chaz is a strong.
C
He is a strong.
B
He's tough, too. All the kids are tough.
A
Yeah, man.
B
But call them kids. But they're, like 30.
C
I mean, but it's interesting to see. I mean, it's unfortunate that happened. I mean, I would have to. I would have to see the video of, like, him actually drop it. Like, you hear all the time, like, people get hit in the head. I mean, in the jaw, and they fall down and hit their head on the concrete and then they die.
B
Yeah.
C
It's like. It wasn't the punch that killed them.
B
Yeah. It was the hit on the head.
C
It was a hit on the head. So. So what caused him to hit his head? Me punching him. Which means I'm Liable.
B
Well, dude, either way, though. Like that. That's Good Samaritan shit. Like, this guy's threatening people, threatening women, saying he was. He was saying, I'm gonna fucking kill you. All this crazy shit in public. And, dude, we can't be putting people in prison for helping other people avoid a dangerous situation because that sends a signal to all the other men.
C
Don't do anything.
B
Yeah. And then you got a women saying, why aren't the men doing anything? Anything? Yeah, well, bro, they're gonna put me in jail for my whole life, you know?
A
Like, he's facing 15 years.
C
Yeah, there's.
B
Bro, this dude should be free today. He. He. I hope he gets paid a ton of money for what he's had to go through.
A
Yeah.
C
Yeah. There was a guy. It just happened. A guy. A. A Samaritan, I think it was over in the uk. I'm not sure where is. But this guy was raping a chick, and a guy saw it. He gets out and just this guy up, just whoop his ass.
B
Is that we drug in between the cars.
C
I don't know. Maybe I saw the part where he ran over. He was like, boom, boom, boom. Just started fucking him up. And then my buddy, his name is Cody Garrett. His name is Donut Operator, he sent me. He goes, hey, man, can you send me a video saying thank you to the homeboy who whipped that guy's ass? I was like, yeah, sure. Absolutely. I'm glad he did the right fucking thing. And he saw a woman in distress who's being fucked with, being raped. And he didn't sit by and goes, nope, not my business. I'm gonna keep walking. He came and he whooped that guy's ass. I was like, good for him. Like, good for him for doing what was right.
B
Yeah. And we need that in the world.
C
We need that in the world.
B
Right. It's part of an obligation that we have as men is to stand up for people that are weaker than us, regardless of what consequences we might face to do so. But with that being said, we shouldn't be put in prison for being Good Samaritans and protecting people, even if it would happen to go wrong.
C
Yeah.
B
You know, because who knows, right?
C
And that. And that's the thing. Like, my brother, when he. When he started having his episodes of schizophrenic and bipolar, my wife at the time, she's my girlfriend, she was like, nope, we need to get the fuck out of here. And my mom was like, no, it's fine. He won't Hurt anybody. Da da da, da. And then my girlfriend at the time, she goes, fuck that. He snaps, he starts stabbing everybody. Nope, we out. And then we packed our shit that day and we left. And then it's the same thing. Like we don't know what that guy had. He could have had a knife. And if he has a manic episode or he's fucking high on whatever it is, is, and he goes around starts stabbing people. And then now what? Now what? Right, right. It's.
B
I think this is one of the biggest, the biggest misjustice or what are we going to call it, like, unjust situation that's going on in America right now is what's going on with this dude.
C
It's very up now if he, now if he had a history of killing people, like, oh, I got over and over and over and over. Yeah, okay, we're gonna have to look at it. But if he is what you're saying, like he was X Marine, there's base level training there.
A
He knows.
B
Like, that's a good point. I'm actually not familiar with clean.
A
Clean record, Clean record, clean record.
C
24 year old dude, he was on a subway. Somebody's acting irate, saying, I'm gonna kill everybody. He goes, not on my. It's almost like this. You look at 9 11, like I want to go more about on the plane, right? Like in today's society, I would hope if motherfuckers on the plane with a box cutter saying, everybody stay in your seat. Nobody's gonna get hurt. Da da da da. That shit ain't gonna happen in today's society. People like, the fuck you is like, yeah, everyone's gonna jump a game bait and just fuck him up. Right? So I think what he did is like that same reaction is like, no, you gonna act crazy. You're gonna kill all of us. Yeah, not the fuck him. Not when I'm here. I'm gonna get my hands on you first and you're gonna. Yeah, he put him to sleep and unfortunately he died. And that's why I think in this situation is what happened. Like, I don't think he's a killer. I don't think he's a murderer. I think he just did something that he felt that was right at the time to take action instead of. He reacted instead of. No, he took action instead of reacting. Right. Like I was talking with it. Yeah, yeah. Like he's not gonna sit there and wait like, okay, I'm not gonna let you get to jump on me. I'm gonna jump on you. And that's what happened. I felt like 24. White man was captured on video placing Neely, black former street performer with a history of homelessness and mental health issue, in a chokehold. That day turned deadly during a subway ride. So it says he didn't drop them.
A
No. So, I mean, they were. They were laying on.
B
They had a conversation first. Yeah, yeah.
A
I mean, the whole thing was videotaped.
B
We.
A
I mean, I can pull it up.
B
We put it on the show. I think. I think I got flagged.
A
Yeah, we can't show it on YouTube.
C
Oh, gotcha. But yeah, I mean, it was a conversation. I mean, the whole George Floyd thing, Once again, like, after the Texology report came back, that motherfucker's highest. Like, what was he high?
B
That's what he died.
A
He was high as giraffe pussy, bro.
C
Yeah.
B
He died of fucking fentanyl overdoses in the coroner report.
C
Yeah, right. That's what I'm talking about. Like. Yes. You know the knee on the neck. Yes. That does cut off the blood flow of the neck, but he still has his left artery, depending on which side was up. So he did have a blood. But if a young, healthy man, male, was. You know, if you put your knee on me and you have it back there and I'm like, ah, I'm not high. I shouldn't die.
A
No, you're not.
B
Yeah. What happens is, is these dudes are high as.
C
Yeah.
B
And. And like, bro, because I've been pinned to the ground by the police, like, I've had to do. I worked in the bars for a long time. They. Sometimes you get wrapped up in a scrap and they don't know who the. Is who.
C
Yeah.
B
Okay. And dude. Yeah, it's. If you're high as fuck and you're up and you're gonna panic when that happens because, like, dude, if you relax, you're fine.
C
Yeah, exactly.
B
You know? Yeah. But. But I could see where someone's high as, like, he was. They could drive to a cardio event or whatever.
C
Right. 1,000%.
A
Happens all the time with people. Like on PCP and it's called. They're like. The medical term is excited delirium. Happens all the time. And like, they get. Because of the drugs that are in their system, they're numb to pain. Mace doesn't affect them. O.C. doesn't affect them. Do not affect them. Them beating their ass. But, like, you know, once they're finally get them control, they send them to the hospital. Days later, they die.
C
Yeah.
A
From all of their Injuries that their body's now feeling, you know what I'm saying? So, I mean, the. Happens not all the time, but it does happen, man. It's like, you know, personally, I mean, I think looking at the situation, knowing the video, seeing the dude's innocent, man.
C
Yeah.
B
And look at those cops, bro. They don't want to be doing that.
A
No, they don't, man. And I think that's the other part, too. It's like, going back to even our earlier conversation, man, it's like, well, I mean, how important is it to ride on the subway in peace? How important is that to you?
C
Yeah.
A
You know what I'm saying? Like, because if we're going to be a society that has standards and, you know, have these more, like, there's certain things that we just cannot allow yet. Like, I'm not saying that, you know, the. The dude deserved to die or should have died, but guess what? After his death is not the time to try to, you know, push for mental health. Like, where was the help for this guy months?
B
First of all, I don't have any sympathy for this anyway, okay? Like, bro, there's a lot of people have mental health problems. Don't go kill people, okay? I. What is this where we're making excuses for the evil that people do? Oh, you know, dude, his dad wasn't in the house, and, you know, he had a drug problem and, you know, he got beat when he was a. Yeah. So.
A
Yeah.
B
So that doesn't make it okay.
C
Yeah.
B
You know, like. Like, dude.
C
I think in this, in our society, we. We could do more. It's very hard. It's a very hard problem to solve. Right? Because coming from mental health, my brother, when he had schizophrenic bipolar, it hit him at a young age, around, like, 19, 20. I'll come home from work, he's walking in a fucking square. Like, I'm like, his name is Selimar. We call him Juni. He always fucks with bugs. We call him Junie Bug. I'm like, juni, get your ass in the house now. And he goes, huh? What? Oh, no, I'm good. And you just keep on walking. One day I come home, he's butt ass naked, just bathing in the sun. I'm like, what are you doing? He goes, do you know if you have the sun hit, you know, your whole body, you get all these vitamins. Come on. One day he's drinking, fucking, just fucking.
B
That's actually a real thing. The butthole tanning.
C
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
A
There's some Science to that.
C
But he would do such crazy shit, and then there was no form to help him. And then the thing that was even crazy, when he finally got booked, he. He broke into an apartment complex that was vacated. And he went to the hot tub. Butt, ass naked. And he was sitting in the hot tub. And the people who run the hotel, not the hotel, but the apartment complex, are like, you can't be in here. Butt, ass naked. He goes, yeah, you can. And he goes, no, you can't. The cops come, they detain him, take him, they book him. And the way he was acting in the room, he was just, like, staring at the wall, acting fucking crazy. And they put him to the mental health facility, which is a western state in Puyallup in Lakewood, where I live. Well, not live Piabba in Washington state. And next thing you know, I'm like, hey, you know, I'm his brother. I want to be able to help him. What does he have? Oh, we can't give you any information unless he signs the paperwork. I'm like, so let me. Give me. Let me get this straight. You're telling me you're gonna let somebody who's not fucking saying who's legitimate, what you're saying, he's fucking crazy. Make a decision whether I can help him or not or understand what he needs? They go, yep. I'm like, what the fuck are you doing? And now I'm at this point now where my mom's getting older. She's battled cancer before. He's gonna. My mom's gonna die eventually, and my mom's taking care of him. If I can't figure out what he has or what medication he needs. How do they suspect me to help him if he won't give me the right of attorney to be able to help him? Right. That's the problem I feel like we have with our.
B
That's a big problem.
C
Big problem is like, guys, I'm a good guy.
B
Yeah.
C
I want. I want to be able to help him. But they're like, nope, he has to let us.
B
He's. And then eventually your mom dies. They don't let you help him. He ends up on the street. On the street doing some crazy ass.
C
And it all happens over and over again.
B
So for me, it's a. That is a systemic problem with our mental. Mental health system. We also have a problem with it being culturally. Culturally celebrated, where we have a lot of people that don't really have mental health issues saying that they have mental health issues because they get attention on the Internet.
C
Yeah.
B
Right.
C
Yeah.
B
And that's the victim culture mentality. And this is a very good example of that because it's very hard to help people like your brother when you have everybody on the Internet talking about their mental health and they're, you know, they're propagating their own victimhood to get attention. Like, how the do we know who is actually who? Same thing with racism. You call everybody racist. How can we identify the real racism? Same thing with me Too movement. If everybody's a sexual harasser or a abuser or a rapist, how do we identify the actual ones? Right. And this is the problem that we have by attaching labels to things that are not actually the things that we're putting the labels on.
C
Yeah.
B
And, dude, that. That's a big problem because a lot of people suffer from that. Like your own family. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's. That sucks.
C
Yeah. And it's. It's always hard. And I, I agree with you when, like, the mewtwo is like, yeah, what is. Oh, he gro.
B
Those same girls are crying today about how no men will talk to him. Well, yeah, yeah, bro.
A
Because, like, I tried to hold your door. You called me a pervert.
B
No, I. I tried to hold the door and you made a video and put it online and said I was a male chauvinist pig.
C
Yeah.
B
Or whatever. You know, like, bro, and. And that. What? That what, you know, women are like, how do we correct that? Well, you got ruined it. Yeah. You gotta tell the women who say that that they're full of. It's a women problem that women got to solve themselves.
C
Yeah.
B
You know, if you want. No, I'm being real. Like, if you want. If you want men to be, you know, to approach and like, the traditional way, all these things. Like, bro, we can't have. Have a big group of women saying, oh, this guy came up and talked to me. He sexually harassed me, or whatever. Like, you can't have that.
A
I can open my own door.
B
Yeah. Okay, cool.
C
Go ahead, do it.
B
Yeah, I was just trying to be helpful, you know.
C
Well, I think it all sends back to the very beginning of the conversation of, like, we've been in this society where it's like, oh, no, I can do that. Don't. You stay wherever you are. It's like, yeah, okay. Fuck. I guess, right? I remember there was masculinity, right. Like, my buddy was like, toxic masculine. Yeah, toxic masculinity. Who's that shit back in the day, like, masculinity at one point in time was like, fucking dope, bro.
B
It is. It is. It's required for a civil society.
C
Yeah. And then. Then there was, like, that. That toss. Toxic masculinity. I was like, well, I can do that, too. And I was like, yes, you can, but I can do it better. I'm built stronger. I'm built faster. Like, genetically, it is what it is. Right.
B
Well, bro, this is about removing the masculine male from. So that society becomes easier to control.
C
Exactly.
B
Yeah.
C
Right? That's. That's what it comes out to, where it's like, no. Like, it's not going to be that way.
B
Right. So I think real men cut off.
A
Their dicks, you know, like, I'm fake as fuck. I don't know what to tell you.
B
They going, real men take estrogen. Real men cry all the time.
C
Yeah.
B
Fuck out of here. Yeah.
C
Like I said, there is so much that goes on where it's just like, you sit back and you sit there. You're like, what the fuck did I just do?
B
No shit. No shit.
C
My favorite one was when men dress up as women, and then they're like, you're gonna dress me as women? Goes, it's, ma'am. No, no, it's ma'am. And I was like, no, you're a fucking dude. Yeah. That's what you are.
A
Sir, you have. Ma'am, you have testicular cancer.
C
And it's like, that's impossible.
B
The best one ever. The best video ever on that is when that dude is at Sonic.
C
What would you call.
B
The guy's trying to be accommodating. He's like. He's like, look, you know, we're trying to be helpful. You know, we brought you your food. Your server addressed me as sir.
C
Yeah.
B
And he's like, look, you know, he's trying to be reasonable. And then the fucking. The dude goes, look at me. What would you think I am? And he goes, you're a man. And then. And then the dude turns the phone at himself. He's like, do I look like a man? Yes.
C
Yeah. I'm like, you got cocking balls, dog. You right, dude.
B
And by the way, cool. Yeah, but don't shove it on everybody.
C
Exactly. That's why I think that the whole. The lines get misconstrued. It's like, okay, hey, I have no problem if Ryan picked me up from the airport dressing a tutu and makeup and lipstick.
B
Yeah.
C
And like. And I'm like, hey, what's up, dude? He goes, no, I'm a fucking. I was like, ryan Harry, you're a Dude, you're a dude, right? And that's like. That's where, like, I even tell my kids, they came home and they're like, dad, there's a furry in the classroom. Like, what the fuck you mean, a furry? He goes. Somebody who identifies as a cat. And I was like, boy, if that cat got a fucking dick, that's a boy. If it's got a vagina, it's a male. It's not a furry. It's not a furry. He can pretend to be a cat, but you ain't got to dress him as a cat. You dress him as. Yeah, exactly. And that's why I think things got fucked up. Whereas when people were like, you have to address me as what I identify.
B
Broke, because they were forcing us to lie to ourselves. Okay? If you force someone to lie to themselves, it's not harmless. It actually creates a situation where our own belief, belief and integrity to self becomes ruined and diluted. So if. So if I am forced to address what I know to be a man as a woman, I'm forced to, like, in other countries, dude, you go to jail for this.
C
Yeah, absolutely.
B
Okay. I am eroding my own self esteem because I know I'm lying. I'm doing something that is against my own intelligence, what I know to be true. And if you. So there's damage to doing this. It's. And the problem is, is that these people try to make it like it. Oh, it's just innocent. Why can't you just accommodate me? Because it's not true, bro. And if I lie to myself, that hurts me.
C
Yeah.
B
Okay.
A
If I am gonna lie to myself, it's gonna be on my own terms. And like.
B
Yeah.
A
Yeah. All right, cool.
B
I look like Zeus.
A
Yeah, Right?
B
My dick is 10ft long.
C
Yeah, exactly.
A
Not nine when it's really 11.
B
Yeah.
A
You know, but like, let me choose to do that. Yeah, you don't. You don't. You can't force me to do.
C
Don't pigeonhole me into your strategy.
B
That's right.
C
You have to.
B
Or what are we fucking. What are we forcing them to do?
C
Nothing.
B
That's right.
C
I never said you can't wear that dress. Yeah, I never say you.
B
I just said you can't read the fucking suck dick books to the kids.
C
Yeah.
A
You know, don't do that.
C
Yeah, like that. I mean, but once again, we're coming from a society that was just recently. It was okay to do that, right? It's like. It's okay to address you. No, no, no. You know, my one of my training partners. Ex. My first coach, he was. He's a pilot. And he goes, I got sick of flying. I mean, he still loves to fly, but he was like, now he just does cargo. Yeah, right? Because he was like, dude, I don't know. I don't want to have somebody I'm working with and I have to address them a certain way. When it's a dude or it's a chick who thinks she's got a bigger dick than me, and she doesn't. She didn't have a dick at all. He goes, I don't know how to address these. So you know what? I just fly cargo now because I don't jump on the team. Like, good. Good morning, ladies and gentlemen. I'm like, I don't want those fucking problems, sir.
A
It deserves. I.
B
Sir, Good morning. They thems, right? Yeah. Oh, you didn't. You didn't include me?
C
Yeah.
B
There's 400 people on the plate. I don't care.
C
Yeah.
B
Yeah, bro. When we had a party, we had a fucking party at the house one time. I don't know if I ever told you this. So we had one of those. Those parties where we had all those people come in and set the up. You know what I'm talking about? Like, the furniture. So when we have these parties at my house, we, like, have this company that comes in and like, furnishes the area, right? You rent it. There was a girl one time, and I didn't even say anything because I felt bad, but I. I said something to her, like. Like, hey, you know, I said something to. Indicated she was a girl. She's like, no, no, I'm. I. I'm. I'm a. It's he. It's he. And I'm like, I just looked at her and I just walked the away because I'm like, I'm not having this conversation right now. I'm getting ready to have a party. Like. Like, I'm not having it. You know?
C
He's like a T. I was like, what the. He goes, I don't want to know. I don't want another pronoun. I just walk the away, man.
B
That's whatever.
C
A T. Maybe her name was T.
B
Like T E, a T. No, no, she said he. He. Oh, she said he. I was. I said she. That's what happened. I referred. And so there was somebody sitting here. Now I remember I was talking to someone and I said, can you have her do that? And she goes, it's he. It's he. But it was very clearly A female.
C
Female. Gotcha.
B
Yeah. And I'm just like it just not at my party.
C
Not tonight.
B
Well, dude, normally like if I were like, like if I were like like not busy, there would have been a conversation.
A
There would have been some time for yes.
B
Yeah.
A
Guys jumping on this conversation. Let us know what you guys think down in the comments. We got one more segment to get there.
C
Hey, I'm here baby. I'm having a good time.
A
Our last and final segment, as always, we have thumbs up or dumb as. So this is where we bring a headline in, we talk about it and we have to give it either a thumbs up or dumb as. So with that being said, our thumbs up or dumbest headline. Ready?
B
Watch.
A
Mississippi State trooper brutally punches fan who got too close to Lane Kiffin.
B
Well, here's what I'm going to tell you about Lane Kiffin before we get started. They just won against Georgia this week.
A
That's where they from.
B
Did you see that?
A
That's where this is from.
B
Do you know what Lane Kiffin posted after his win?
A
What?
B
A motivational speech by a guy that we know.
A
Oh no.
B
Yeah.
A
That's fucking cool.
B
Yeah. No, I didn't know that guy is me.
A
That's fucking cool.
B
In case you all were wondering.
A
Deductive reasoning.
B
Yes.
A
That's fucking awesome.
B
It was pretty cool. Thanks, Lane. I appreciate you. If you want me to come down and talk to the team, I'm available anytime. I'm waiting for Texas to have me come talk but apparently they don't need me this year. When they lose a game, they'll come.
A
Yeah, man. So let's watch this.
B
Hey Lane, if you want to beat Texas, you fucking call me. I'll come down there and give a speech.
A
It's fire.
B
Yeah. I might give you a bad one because I want Texas to win.
A
Yeah. The Ole Miss Rebels shocked the college football watching world with their upset win over the then third ranked Georgia on Saturday and the fans rushed the field to celebrate. However, one of those fans got too close to Rebels head coach Lane Kiffin and he ate a punch from a state trooper for his trouble. As thousands of fans swarmed the field at Vaunt Hemingway Stadium, the two Mississippi State troopers assigned to protect Kiffin faced a daunting task as they attempted to escort the coach through the sea of hysterical fans. After shaking the hand of Georgia head coach Kirby Smart, at least one Ole Miss fan got too close to the coach and was hit with a fist by the long arm of the law.
B
A long dick of the law got him.
A
Let's Check this clip out.
C
Holy shit.
A
Oh, bro, it was fucking chaos.
C
Oh, my God. Okay.
B
All right.
A
Here we go.
B
Well, imagine. Okay. Before we even see it, imagine you're in charge of protecting this guy in that.
C
Oh, dude.
B
Yeah. It ain't happen it.
C
Yeah. Even if you're like. Like, imagine being like if that was Taylor Swift.
B
Yeah.
C
And you have to protect her and Ella, you're going to be. Get back.
B
Get too close.
A
Yeah, I'm throwing bows.
B
Let's see it.
A
Let's check this clip.
B
I want to see the knuckle sandwich. Is that it?
A
I think there's another one coming too. Oh, elbow punch.
C
There we go. Oh.
B
I mean, real talk. That's generous. That's being generous.
C
He's just like, pop.
B
Yeah, a little pop. Just let him know he's there.
C
Yeah.
B
That wasn't harmful.
C
Yeah.
B
No.
A
Oh, no, no, no. The first. No, no.
C
Okay.
A
At first we took the. Oh, he took that. Hold on.
B
Oh, yeah. Get the out of here.
A
Yeah.
C
Hey, man, I think he's just stiff armor with a closed fist.
B
Yeah, I don't think it was a real punch.
C
Yeah, I don't think he was, you.
B
Know, it was like a little like. Hey, bop. Yeah.
C
Yeah.
B
That kid just had a glass jaw.
C
Yeah, Bob.
B
Damn, dude, do you remember that video? Do you guys remember that player from Oregon that knocked that out after the game?
A
This just happened.
B
No, no, no. It was like years ago, bro. Google up. Oregon player punches. Dude.
C
Damn. They were.
A
Oh, bro, they were wild.
B
Yeah, they broke. They tore him down, I think.
A
Yeah, they did.
B
My cousin goes up. Kara's son goes those Ole Miss. Yeah, they were at the game. Yeah.
C
He's like, woo.
B
That's a big win for them, man.
C
Dude.
A
And it wasn't like a small win, but 28 to 10, huh? Good Lord.
B
Yeah, Well, I mean, I watched the game. It was. They were in control of it.
A
Geez.
B
Did you find it? Organ duck? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
C
This right here.
B
Yeah.
C
Ah, here we go. This dude o.
A
I love the music and.
B
Yeah.
C
Why do you punch him?
B
I don't know. I guess he was mouthing off. Oh, there it is.
C
Okay.
B
Bro, that dude just got crumbled.
C
Oh, he came back again. Oh, they rewinded it. Oh, my.
B
12 years ago.
A
See that? Oh, and that was him walking out.
B
Oh, bro. And that guy was a beast.
C
Geez, that's hilarious. Did he play for the NFL?
B
Yeah.
C
Oh, did he?
B
Yeah.
C
Oh, good for him.
B
Yeah.
C
Well, I want to celebrate him, you know?
B
Yeah, I think he had a pretty good career. Too, dude.
C
Really?
B
Yeah.
C
Knocking motherfuckers out where that pop.
B
I mean, what's his first name?
A
LeGarrett.
C
That. That sheriff. I give him a thumbs up. Up. He's doing a great job. Protecting, you know, doing your job.
A
Somebody's got to do it.
C
Yeah. Clean step arm. Just. Wow. And where's this at? Is this in Georgia?
B
Played in the NFL for eight years.
C
Damn.
B
Yeah.
C
What team?
B
The Titans. Buccaneers, Eagles, Patriots.
A
Been everywhere.
B
Yeah, he's been. But yeah, I. I respect that punch. He just crumbled. That big old dude that. That dude. The other dude's claim to fame is getting knocked the out TV. That was 12 years ago. I still remember it.
A
Yeah, man.
B
Yeah.
C
Wow.
A
It's a thumbs up to the. To the trooper.
B
Yeah, I think so. I think he's. He's got a job to do.
C
Got a job and he did it.
B
And let's be real, man. These kids don't respect that. Kind of like, they need to, you know, they're running up in this dude's face. They know that he's trying to get through the crowd, get the out of the way.
C
Kelly should get too close, find out.
A
Yeah, man. All right, well, sweet. Thumbs up on that. Well, guys, and Demetrius, DJ Might. Mouse.
B
Yeah.
A
That's all I got.
B
Yeah. Well, brother, thanks for coming in, man. That was awesome.
C
Thank you for having me, man.
B
We're gonna do that again next time you come in.
C
Absolutely. I'm like, he's back. He's back.
B
No way, bro. Next time you come down, we gotta do another one.
C
Yes. Yeah, absolutely, man.
B
All right, cool, brother. Well, thank you so much. It's been an honor to have you on. That was a great time.
C
Thank you. I can't wait when I get Diddy files that we found.
B
All right, here's the deal. When the Diddy files drop, you gotta come right in. Yeah.
C
Yeah, I would do it.
B
I will fly you right in.
C
Yeah.
B
All right. I won't do the episode without you.
C
But we got. We gotta, like, man, it be a nice way for us to like. To all experience all together. Like, just sitting there, like, going to one of those rooms, like, all right, guys.
B
Rub baby oil on each other.
C
Yeah. Just sitting there, like, all right, guy. What? We sit there watching it live. It's like, okay, guys, none of us have seen it yet. We're gonna watch it all together live. We're sitting there like, what the man?
B
Just record it.
C
Yeah, record it. Oh, man. But thank you for having me, man. I had a good time and appreciate you guys. Be part of the show, man.
B
Yeah, brother. Thank you so much. All right, guys, that's the show. We'll see you back tomorrow. Don't be a hoe.
A
Show the show.
C
Yeah.
A
We're from Sleeping on the Flow now my jury box froze. Bo Stove counted millions in a cold, bad booted swole Got her own bank Road can't fold Just a no headshot case close.
Podcast Summary: REAL AF with Andy Frisella - Episode 811
Title: REAL AF with Andy Frisella
Host/Author: Andy Frisella #100to0
Guests: Demetrious "Mighty Mouse" Johnson & DJ CTI
Episode Topics: Trump Thanks Biden for Smooth Transition, Ray J Claims Celebs Feared Diddy Affiliation, NY Grand Jury Indicts Daniel Penny
Andy Frisella opens the episode by welcoming his guests, Demetrious "Mighty Mouse" Johnson and DJ CTI. He introduces the show's format, which includes speculating on trending topics, Q&A segments, real talk rants, and discussions on the 75 Hard program—a mental toughness transformation initiative. Andy emphasizes that the show is ad-free to maintain authenticity and urges listeners to support by sharing the podcast.
Demetrious Johnson joins the show to discuss his retirement from professional fighting.
Career Reflection (03:30 - 05:11): Demetrious shares insights into his decision to retire, citing a desire for more personal fulfillment and time with his family. He notes, "I think I'm done," reflecting his shift from a fighting-centric life to focusing on Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu and building his brand.
Financial Transition and Mental Toughness (05:13 - 07:57): He discusses the importance of financial planning post-retirement, emphasizing that earnings from MMA are typically insufficient for long-term stability. Demetrious states, "You gotta figure out how you make money," highlighting his proactive approach to building businesses and investing wisely during his career.
Family and Personal Life (07:58 - 08:13): Demetrious touches on his family life, mentioning his wife and three children, underscoring the significance of balancing personal responsibilities with professional endeavors.
Andy and his guests dive into the historical meeting between former President Donald Trump and President-elect Joe Biden.
Smooth Transition Pledge (45:33 - 46:31): Both leaders express their commitment to a seamless transition. Trump remarks, "I appreciate very much the transition that's so smooth. It will be as smooth as it can get."
Speculative Analysis (46:31 - 48:05): The discussion turns speculative as Andy expresses concerns about potential unrest or hidden agendas behind the cordial meeting. Demetrious adds, "I hope the transition is smooth... but I feel like they're gonna do some super fucked up shit."
The conversation shifts to allegations made by Ray J regarding Diddy's influence in the entertainment industry.
Ray J's Assertions (88:31 - 91:13): Ray J claims that high-profile celebrities are paying alleged victims to silence them about affiliations with Diddy. He states, "I am hearing about artists paying victims to keep their name out of it."
Discussion on Blackmail and Power (91:13 - 99:08): The hosts explore the implications of these claims, discussing the potential involvement of intelligence agencies in blackmailing celebrities to control narratives. Demetrious elaborates on how influential figures like Epstein and Diddy might operate behind the scenes to maintain their status and suppress scandals.
The trio examines the legal case surrounding Daniel Penny, who was indicted for the death of Jordan Neely in New York.
Case Overview (108:25 - 111:17): Daniel Penny, a 24-year-old man, was captured on video placing Neely, a black street performer with mental health issues, in a chokehold during a subway incident, leading to Neely's death.
Expert Testimony (111:17 - 119:44): The discussion includes insights from Dr. John R. Black, a use-of-force expert, who distinguishes between different types of chokeholds and their intent. The hosts debate whether the chokehold was the primary cause of death or if other factors, such as Neely's medical condition or the duration of the restraint, played a role.
Systemic Issues (119:45 - 120:21): Demetrious highlights systemic problems in handling mental health crises, advocating for better support systems to prevent such tragedies.
The hosts evaluate recent news headlines, deciding whether each situation merits a "thumbs up" or is "dumb as."
Event Summary: Following an upset victory by Ole Miss Rebels over Georgia, a fan became overly aggressive towards head coach Lane Kiffin. Mississippi State troopers responded by physically restraining the fan, which was captured on video.
Hosts' Reactions:
Throughout the episode, Andy and his guests delve into various topics reflecting their views on societal issues:
Alcohol and Marijuana Use (02:43 - 22:30): They discuss the cultural perceptions of alcohol and marijuana, advocating for responsible use and criticizing societal stigmas. Demetrious shares personal experiences with reducing alcohol consumption and cautiously endorsing marijuana for medicinal purposes.
Mental Health and Community Responsibility (116:37 - 120:21): The conversation addresses the challenges of supporting individuals with mental health issues, emphasizing the need for systemic reforms to better handle crises and prevent violent outcomes.
Immigration and National Security (49:16 - 84:18): The hosts express strong opinions on immigration policies, advocating for strict enforcement and criticizing lenient attitudes toward illegal immigration. They discuss the potential threats posed by uncontrolled immigration and the importance of maintaining national security.
Andy Frisella wraps up the episode by encouraging listeners to share their thoughts in the comments and promoting the next episode's lineup. The discussion remains candid and unfiltered, staying true to the show's "REAL AF" ethos by tackling controversial and pressing societal issues with honesty and directness.
Notable Quotes:
This episode provides a comprehensive exploration of high-profile political transitions, celebrity scandals, and legal controversies, all while interweaving personal insights and broader societal critiques. Andy Frisella and his guests offer listeners a blend of informative analysis and unvarnished opinions, making it both a thought-provoking and engaging listen.