THUNE BLOCKS SAVE AMERICA ACT AS SENATE BOLTS | WAR ROOM AM W STEVE BANNON | JUNE 25, 2026

Summary

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Real America’s Voice – War Room AM with Steve Bannon

Episode: "Thune Blocks Save America Act As Senate Bolts"

Date: June 25, 2026
Host: Steve Bannon
Key Guests/Commentators: Eric Bolling, Ambassador Monica Crowley, others

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Overview

This special War Room AM episode, broadcast from Washington, D.C. rather than on the road as originally planned, dives deep into the current legislative standoffs on Capitol Hill ahead of America’s 250th anniversary celebrations. Key focuses include the Senate’s refusal to advance the Save America Act, revived debates over war powers and Middle Eastern diplomacy, inflation and economic pressures, and reflections on U.S.-China relations with Monica Crowley. The conversations are intense, passionate, and highly critical of GOP Senate leadership, with the specter of Trump’s influence and MAGA priorities running throughout.

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Key Discussion Points

1. Senate Leadership Blocks Save America Act

• John Thune’s Refusal:
  • Thune, Senate GOP leader, refused to bring the Save America Act to the Senate floor before adjourning for the July recess, sparking outrage from pro-Trump forces.
  • Bannon and guests argue Thune is stonewalling due to "Trump derangement" and avoidance of clear public reasoning.
  • Quote:
    • “He just is refusing to bring it to the floor and filibuster it… probably some form of anti-Trump or Trump derangement syndrome virus has got.”
      — Eric Bolling (09:15)
• Senate Break Criticized:
  • Bannon angrily remarks on the Senate adjourning until July 13:
    • “They have no sense of urgency… these guys are now in another, I don’t know, until the 13th, I guess the 17-day, just taking off, lollygagging around… I think it’s time for a leadership fight.”
      — Steve Bannon (10:23)

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2. War Powers, Middle East Diplomacy, and Oman Standoff

• Straits of Hormuz Dispute:
  • Concern over attempts by Oman (and Iran) to levy “tolls” or “service fees” on ships transiting vital international waterways.
  • Eric Bolling reviews U.S. principles: No nation can charge for passage through international waters.
  • Quote:
    • “The reality of it is no country on earth has a right to charge for the use of international waterways, and that will never be an acceptable condition of any deal.”
      — Eric Bolling (02:41)
• Trump’s Pressure and New Diplomacy:
  • Recent threats from Trump and subsequent assurances from Oman that no tolls will be charged.
  • Rubio’s intervention: Senator Marco Rubio takes charge in regional meetings, standing firm against concessions to the Iranians or Omanis.
  • Quote:
    • “…guess what? We’re not the great Jesus anymore. Now all of a sudden, within the Iranian regime, we’re still a Great Satan. And they will do everything in their power to get rid of us."
      — Stephen K. Bannon (13:42)
• Skepticism of Deals with Iran:
  • Bannon and Bolling deeply distrust Iranian, and by extension, Omani assurances—accusing previous administrations (notably Obama) of naivete.
  • Critique of proposals to unfreeze Iranian assets or allow oil sales.
  • Quote:
    • “You think for one second… they’ve promised to allow inspectors… we send them billions and then they don’t perform on their side of the deal… meanwhile, these people want, still want to kill us, Steve.”
      — Stephen K. Bannon (13:20-14:22)

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3. Economic Updates: Inflation and Oil

• Surging Inflation - PCE Data:
  • Bannon and Bolling discuss the Fed’s preferred inflation indicator (Personal Consumption Expenditures, or PCE) hitting a three-year high at 4.1–4.2%.
  • Bannon argues energy/food core inflation is more worrisome than headline numbers and predicts continued pressure.
  • Quote:
    • “If you even get rid of all of those high energy prices, inflation is still rising and that is going to be really tricky for the Fed to figure out how to get rid of.”
      — Steve Bannon (06:18)
  • Bolling, a former oil trader, disputes Trump’s optimism on gasoline prices coming down sharply, blaming sticky retail prices.
  • Quote:
    • “I can still love Trump… but I can also say he’s wrong about that. I’ve done Oil for 40 years… Gouging is happening on the retail level.”
      — Eric Bolling (25:17-26:41)
• Energy Policy and Middle East Liquidity:
  • Debate over whether to ease sanctions on Iranian oil for price relief.
  • Both Bannon and Bolling side against lifting sanctions or releasing Iranian cash.

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4. Congressional Infighting & War Powers Showdown

• Trump’s Clashes with GOP Senators:
  • The president persistently prioritizes the Save America Act, refusing to sign even a popular bipartisan housing bill until the Senate advances it.
  • Notable altercation: President reportedly calls Senator Bill Cassidy a "lunatic" during a heated lunch and is accused of strong-arming GOP senators.
  • Quote:
    • “The president said that he’s canceling the signing until Save [America] Pass. He said he’s not coming today.”
      — Cancer Patient/Guest (38:19–38:23)
• Bannon’s Analysis:
  • Highly critical of Senate Republicans for disunity, lack of urgency, and disrespect toward Trump.
  • Warns GOP’s base is “disillusioned” as celebrations for America250 approach.
  • Quote:
    • “He carried these people across the gold line in November of 2024… they show no respect. So he comes up for this lunch… and Cassidy started yelling at the President of the United States. Put that in your mind for a second.”
      — Steve Bannon (44:32–45:05)
• War Powers Vote Flip-Flop:
  • Bannon incredulous as senators reverse War Powers Resolution votes after White House briefings, depicting it as chaotic and undermining Trump’s diplomatic leverage.

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5. Reflections on U.S. Strategic Posture: China & Nixon’s Legacy

• Monica Crowley’s Perspective:
  • Crowley connects U.S.-China diplomacy to America’s decisions in the mid–20th century, referencing her academic research and experiences with Nixon.
  • Reflects on U.S. triaging threats after WWII and the Cold War.
  • Insights on China’s rapid transformation from agrarian economy to superpower status, and the dangers of naive engagement.
  • Quote:
    • “The Chinese saw [the Soviet collapse], and being much smarter, they did the exact opposite. They did economic reform first, and that staved off any demand for political reform.”
      — Ambassador Monica Crowley (56:20)
• Lessons for Today:
  • Crowley and Bannon urge vigilance—drawing parallels between Nixon’s realism and the current White House’s choices vis-à-vis both China and Iran.

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Notable Quotes & Moments (with Timestamps)

• On the Senate Walkout:

  • “The Senate’s gone. Not coming back to July 13th. I guess we’re not passing the Save America act this afternoon… I think it’s time for a leadership fight.”
    — Steve Bannon, (09:48–10:23)

• On International Waterways:

  • “No country on earth has a right to charge for the use of international waterways, and that will never be an acceptable condition of any deal.”
    — Eric Bolling, (02:41)

• On Iran Diplomatic Distrust:

  • “Guess what? We’re not the great Jesus anymore… Within the Iranian regime, we’re still a Great Satan. They will do everything in their power to get rid of us.”
    — Stephen K. Bannon, (13:42)

• On Republican Dysfunction:

  • “If you didn’t have Trump, you wouldn’t have a country. Flat out. Do we have to do more? You damn right. Are we only at the beginning of this fight? You’re damn right.”
    — Steve Bannon, (45:30)

• On Inside China:

  • “In one generation, the Chinese have gone from an agrarian society to an industrial and nuclear superpower… everyone in America…has to go to China and see with their own eyes what we are up against.”
    — Ambassador Monica Crowley, (58:13)

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Segment Timestamps

• Senate Drama/Infighting & Save America Act Blocked:
  • [09:00–12:00], [35:00–40:00], [43:00–49:00]
• Straits of Hormuz/Foreign Policy:
  • [02:04–05:00]; [12:40–14:50]; [20:10–22:50]
• Economic Updates: Inflation & Oil:
  • [05:43–07:00]; [22:25–27:00]
• Monica Crowley & U.S.-China Reflections:
  • [52:05–59:00]

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Tone and Style

• The episode is spirited, combative, and unapologetically pro-Trump/MAGA, laced with frustration at Congressional inertia and establishment power structures.
• Speakers exhibit urgency about the legislative standstill and strong skepticism toward international deals, particularly with adversarial states.

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For Listeners Who Missed the Episode

• The heart of the discussion revolves around the rejection of MAGA-aligned priorities by the Senate and the resultant fractures within the GOP as America’s 250th approaches.
• The hosts draw sharp lines between populist urgency and establishment delays, linking domestic standoffs (Save America Act) to broader geopolitical anxieties (Middle East, China).
• Throughout, the podcast underscores persistent distrust of government bureaucracy, global adversaries, and media institutions.

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Skip to

• 09:00 for Senate Save America Act tussle;
• 14:00 for Iran/Straits of Hormuz deep-dive;
• 23:00 for inflation and oil discussion;
• 52:00 for Monica Crowley’s historical analysis and reflections.

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Transcript

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[Steve Bannon]

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[Ambassador Monica Crowley]

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[Newt Gingrich]

America's 250th birthday, and I asked my guest how they're spending their Fourth of July. Brett Baer.

[Steve Bannon]

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[Newt Gingrich]

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[Eric Bolling]

I plan to be flying in an F5 fighter jet painted in Freedom 250 colors, along with four other fighter jets flying over the nation's capital.

[Newt Gingrich]

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[Steve Bannon]

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[J.R. Martinez]

As America marks its 250th anniversary, we're looking back at two and a half centuries of rebellion and liberty through the eyes of the heroes who defended it.

[Steve Bannon]

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[J.R. Martinez]

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[Eric Bolling]

for us are important to point out now that will never be acceptable. The first is the Straits of Hormuz are international waters. International waterways do not belong to any nation state. This is a foundational principle in the world today, without which the world would be in total chaos. If, in fact, we accepted that you can charge money to use an international waterway because it happens to be near your territorial space, well, then this will spread throughout the world, like a contagion. If in fact there is now a straits that one country can, their two countries can, or what any countries decide they want to charge money for its use, what is going to stop every country in the world near a waterway from imposing the same? And then we're going to have chaos, so that is unacceptable. And then we're going to have chaos, so that is unacceptable. You can call it a toll, you can call it a fee, whatever you want to call it. It's a game of semantics. The reality of it is that no country on earth has a right to charge for the use of international waterways, and that will never be an acceptable condition of any deal. The President's been fundamentally clear about that.

[Steve Bannon]

Last month, President Trump threatened to bomb Oman if they impose tolls on the strait. And just today you mentioned that no two nations should be able to impose tolls on a natural strait. Are you satisfied? Is the current bilateral relationship with Oman now in a good place? And are you convinced they're not playing games with respect to that issue?

[Eric Bolling]

I mean, our relationship with Oman is fine. I mean, ultimately there's not going to be any fees or tolls. There's not going to be any. And they've signed. You know, they were there in the meeting today and they said it, that they're not in favor of a tolling system. So that's good. I'm glad to hear you say that.

[Steve Bannon]

I do have to ask because it's just a few weeks ago there was the hypothetical threat to bomb Oman. So it didn't seem to be okay a few weeks ago.

[Eric Bolling]

I can only talk to you about today. And today they said in the meeting and they signed on to the statement that said there isn't going to be any fees or tolls. And so I think that's good news that they Signed on today, Mr. Secretary, back to go through the straits. And think about it this way, if you have, it's not even workable. Let's suppose that we went crazy and lost our minds completely and decided to agree to have a tolling or a fee mechanism. How would that work? It's not doable because what's the consequence for not paying? Let's say a ship says, well, I'm not going to pay the fee. It's not like a toll on a road. You don't get a ticket in the mail, they get shot at. You shoot at one ship, you sink one ship, no other ship is going to move. So that sort of system is not only unwise, it can't happen. It's not even workable. So you might as well abandon the fantasy now.

[Ambassador Monica Crowley]

You used to call them.

[Newt Gingrich]

You did.

[Ambassador Monica Crowley]

You used to call them religious, theocratic lunatics. Do you still believe that language applies to the leadership today?

[Eric Bolling]

Well, it's not that I believe it, it's the fact of the matter. I mean, the Iranian system is led by clerics, radical clerics. That's what it's always been led by, and that's what it continues to be led by. That said, we also have to manage the geopolitics of the situation. And there's an operative. If they've changed their mindset or if they change their approach to their relations with the United States and their neighbors, then we're going to give this thing a chance to work. Maybe this changed. I'm not saying it has. I'm saying the president wants to explore whether that's the case. And if it has, we're going to find out. But we're not going to find out because of what say. We're going to find out because of what they do. We're going to judge them by their actions. And we'll test that proposition and see. No one says it's going to be easy because I think at the end, you know, we know that people that are still at the top levels of that government are people that adhere to the same theology and the same mentality as the people that have led it in the past. They've got some people in the political branches that seem more flexible and more willing to work with us. Those are the ones we're negotiating with. We'll see how it works out.

[Cancer Patient/Guest]

New data in showing that inflation rose again last month. The Federal Reserve's preferred inflation inflation gauge now at the highest level in three years, seen as David Goldman is joining us now. What more are you seeing with this?

[Steve Bannon]

Yeah, well, 4.1%. That is the highest in three years. You don't want to see a number that high. But I'm going to do something unusual. I'm going to say ignore that.

[Eric Bolling]

Right.

[Newt Gingrich]

Okay. This is.

[Cancer Patient/Guest]

Ignore the news.

[Armstrong and Getty (Jack Armstrong or Joe Getty)]

Ignore the news.

[Steve Bannon]

This is old news. Right. Because this happened in May and what has happened since May? Well, oil prices have fallen precipitously. We're now down below the levels that we were at when the war started.

[Cancer Patient/Guest]

Started.

[Steve Bannon]

The number that I want you to focus on, however, is the core number. They cut out all those volatile numbers like food and energy, and that one rose more than expected. That's the concern because if you even get rid of all of those high energy prices. Inflation is still rising and that is going to be really tricky for the Fed to figure out how to get rid of. Now, Kevin Warsh, who President Trump nominated for the Fed chair, he might have to raise rates. That's not what President Trump hired him to do. So we're in a sticky situation for sure. This is the primal scream of a dying regime. Pray for our enemies because we're going medieval on these people's not got a free shot. All these networks lying about the people. The people have had a belly full of it. I know you don't like hearing that. I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. It's going to happen. And where do people like that go to share the big lie?

[Stephen K. Bannon]

MAGA MEDIA I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.

[Armstrong and Getty (Jack Armstrong or Joe Getty)]

Ask yourself, what is my task and

[Steve Bannon]

what is my purpose?

[Armstrong and Getty (Jack Armstrong or Joe Getty)]

If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

War Room here's your host, Stephen K. Band.

[Steve Bannon]

Thursday 25th June. Your overlord 2026. Very special broadcast today. We're doing it from the War Room. We had plans of maybe doing it on the road somewhere, but the technical issues overwhelmed us because so much is going on in Washington, D.C. moban and thank you much. So, so much.

[Eric Bolling]

Mo.

[Steve Bannon]

I noticed you cruised through here when we got the big celebrations last night. Heading to party. You're going to be partying with. I shouldn't say that. Partying with bowling in Nashville and also with Gary Sinise and his crew. We'll get to all that. Thanks you for coming in. Let me go to bowling to start off with. And I've got to also say that the Senate. Senate's gone. Not coming back to July 13th. I guess we're not passing the Save America act this afternoon. I guess we're not working through the weekend in the run up to the 2025 or to the 250th anniversary, the sign of the Declaration going through this. But let's deal with matters at hand right now. Eric Bolling and I think Bolling's mobile this morning. I take it you're heading to Nashville, Eric?

[Stephen K. Bannon]

I am, Steve, and I'm looking forward to bringing Maureen, Maureen Banning on to live it up the show. But yeah, we're going to be Nashville. 3pm Central, 4pm Eastern. And we got one of the bandits. Maybe we'll get the other Bannon up there too.

[Steve Bannon]

Well, hold, hang on. I don't know you've got your Ed John Rich's. You're at the hottest spot in Nashville. Why do you.

[J.R. Martinez]

How do you.

[Steve Bannon]

Why do you need Augment. Why do you need Bannon Augmentation? To make that any, any livelier.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Never get too much Bannon in your show. We learn a lot from the, from the Bannon crew. So, yeah, we're gonna have some fun. John Rich is going to be on the show. A bunch of country artists and maybe a few politicians that we can hold their feet to the fire a little bit. But can I. Did you happen to see Steve the comment and John Thune made about why he wasn't willing to bring the SAFE act to the Senate floor? He said, well, you don't see what I see. And he said, I've seen this, I've studied this. And he never gave us an example. Now, if you want to learn a little bit, you go, you watch the war, because Steve will tell you what he thinks and he'll tell you why he thinks it. Thune just said, almost, trust me, it wouldn't make it through. Instead of explaining why it wouldn't make it through or who would be a holdout, he just is refusing to bring it to the floor and filibuster it. Filibuster it through for whatever reason, because probably some form of anti Trump or Trump derangement syndrome virus has got.

[Steve Bannon]

I mean, we had in the broadcast last night, Bo Davidson was anchoring from the West Palm Beach Republican Club. And these folks are hardcore. And all they were doing was talking about the Save America act, and they wanted to remove John Thune as leader. Matt Boyle kind of dropped by. He was in the neighborhood going over to a CPI event because there's many events in town kicking off the 10 day commemoration. And so I had Boyle just drop by and he came in and all he was doing was throwing down about how really you kind of need a leadership fight in mid July to late July to fire people up that were taking this thing in the right direction. I just think Thune, his arrogance now and what they did, their excuses, oh, well, they unwound. They got Cassidy and some guys to back off. So they unwound the war powers. You know, they voted the War Powers act the other day and they got them to back off. So that was a huge win. So it was no problem letting them leave town and not coming back to July 13th. They have no sense of urgency. I mean, we're grinding here in the war room as everybody. The president's grinding. He's working 20 hour days. Everybody's grinding and these guys are now in another, I don't know until the 13th, I guess the 17 day, just taking off, lollygagging around, probably going to go on some codells and then they'll, you know, they'll sashay back in here on the 12th and I think it's time for a leadership fight. But hang on a second. Marco Rubio has. Now we understand that Secretary of State, National Security advisor is now out of the witness protection program. He shows up in the Middle east but bowling talk about it. Listen, that's the most logical thing I've heard here. You know, he's throwing down like we are that hey, what is this thing about? We're gonna have a chat with the Persian pirates and in Oman and they're gonna discuss, they're gonna have dialogue to discuss the Straits of Hormuz. And you got the Persians coming out, they're coming out every 10 minutes saying hey, we control it. We're going to have a plan to show you a safe navigation in a different kind of. They don't call it tolls, they call it service servicing fees in different structures. Let's talk about what Marco says first about the, about the straight and then we're going to get into the inflation number. Talk to me about your. As a trader in oil, when he heard Marco Ruby up there, I think pretty definitively saying what the structure of this is going to look like going forward. Sir.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Glad he did it. I noticed he didn't want to touch the deal too much. He's gonna let JD keep his hands bloodied with that deal. I'm not sure that deal is gonna even fly anymore. But Marco.

[Steve Bannon]

Hold it, hold it, hold it, hold it. Slow down, slow down, slow down. Don't bury the lead. What do you mean? What do you mean he didn't touch the deal? He's the Secretary of State, the national security advisor.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Well, they asked him a couple of points specifics about the deals like how are you going to get the Iranians to do that? I don't want to get ahead of the negotiators because they're still apparently negotiating this, whatever this is. Steve, you and I have said that. Come on. How long have we been doing this? 40 years. Have you ever been able to trust the Iranians? Have you ever been able to trust the Middle east that they're not going to be out for their own personal gain? This deal, you think for one second you were through it in the 80s, you remember you watching through the 80s, you saw it happen with Barack Obama. They've promised to allow inspectors and they've made multiple promises. We cut deals with them, we send them billions of dollars in cash and then they don't, they don't perform on their side of the deal, their promises. And then everyone kind of, oh, that's what's the next problem. What else are we talking about? Is it going to be Cuba or is it going to be something else or is there economy and then we forget about this one. Meanwhile, these people want, still want to kill us, Steve. They've never not wanted to kill us. They've never seen us as anything but the great Satan. Guess what? We're not the great Jesus anymore. Now all of a sudden, within the Iranian regime, we're still a Great Satan. And they will do everything in their power to get rid of us. They're not going to show us their nuclear capabilities. And this whole idea of, of Somehow sending them $300 billion, 100 billion from us, 200 from others is absolutely.

[Steve Bannon]

Ho, ho, ho, ho, ho. Hang on, hang on, hang on. I haven't seen.

[Eric Bolling]

Whoa.

[Steve Bannon]

So I haven't seen any $100 billion commitment from us. I've heard some. We're going to be structured. Look, I hate that part of it, but I've just heard that the, the Gulf Emirates are going to put up 2/3 of it and they're going to find out the rest. We may administer it, which I don't like. I don't like rebuilding anything in Persia. Let them rebuild it. And we shouldn't give them a penny.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

You know, 88 up to 100 is our, the money that we're holding. That was, you know, illegal. Well, in our opinion, we're holding on to the assets because we're not giving embargo with them. I mean, we could still keep it. I mean it's not. Yeah, Grant, it's not coming out of our treasury. But why release this money back to the Iranians when we know exactly what they're going to do? They're not going to buy food from our farmers with it. No way they're going to do that. They're going to start building their, rebuilding their, their centrifuges and radio aim them

[Steve Bannon]

at New York City just so the audience is up to speed. Scott Besson came out and said, hey look, anything discussion because what Eric's talking about as we address, there's $100 billion just like the Russians had their money in European banks, I think in dollar denominated or EU denominated securities and was frozen and seized in the Ukraine war. The Iranians have had essentially about $100 billion in assets spread throughout the world. Now, I think 50 billion of that is around the CCP or other people that we don't actually control. 50 billion. I think Eric is directly under our control. And Pete's gone up with an $88 billion request. I think 67 billion of that is directly tied to this war. My point, hey, if you want to have something for the American people, let's just sweep.

[J.R. Martinez]

Let's sweep.

[Steve Bannon]

$50 billion in cash. You know, maybe they're not buying foodstuffs from American farmers. No offense. Why should we allow them to use that money to feed themselves? We don't want them fed. And I know people say, oh, that's. That's. That's so cruel. Hey, it's called a war. It's called a war for a reason. Were we feeding the Japanese and the Germans in WW2? We feeding the North Vietnamese? We feeding the Koreans? You know, you can't. You can't get into this. You got it? It's either. It's black and white. Sweep their cash and have them pay for what we had to do. This is about their nuclear program and taking down their military threat. Anyway, Bowling's here. We got inflation number to get around. But also, I want to go back to the straight. Marco Rubio sounding quite logical this morning about this situation and Hormuz. Short break. Bowling on the road. We're here in the war room. When I was diagnosed, all I wanted to do was get back to work. I wanted to get back to that trajectory that I was on prior to the cancer. I always felt like I had value.

[Eric Bolling]

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[Steve Bannon]

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[Newt Gingrich]

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[Steve Bannon]

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[J.R. Martinez]

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We'll also travel back to 1926 to witness Richard Byrd's historic flight over the North Pole. These are more than just stories of combat. They are testaments to leadership, community and the human spirit. Listen to Medal of Honor on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Armstrong and Getty (Jack Armstrong or Joe Getty)]

Here's your host, Stephen K. Band.

[Steve Bannon]

Okay, Eric, let's go back to Marco Rubio. What he's saying. He's in the not just the Middle east, he's in the Gulf Emirates for a reason. Talk to us about what do you think that reason is in his discussion on Straits of Hormuz in the Persian Gulf, sir?

[Stephen K. Bannon]

My guess is that he's going to try and smooth over the mess. Unfortunately, I mean, people are going to say it was great but it was a disaster that JD and Kushner and Witkoff put together because on top of all the things, we're going to give them all this money, Steve. We're allowing them to sell oil again. Allowing them to sell oil again. We've had an embargo on them for years, and all of a sudden we're going to let them sell oil and enrich themselves even further. Has nothing to do with this sort of deal. It's just insane. So I think Marco's putting his foot down a little bit. Like now that there was rumblings, the Iranians said they didn't really agree to no tolls in the straight. And Marcos went in there, and I think the whole purpose of that was Rubio telling him, hey, I'm not J.D. we're not going to do this. You're not going to block an international waterway, and we're going to make sure that doesn't happen. I think they needed to hear that from someone other than the people who were just trying to get any deal on the table for some reason.

[Steve Bannon]

This is, by the way, the memory Memorandum of Understanding is just a framework that leads to a deal.

[J.R. Martinez]

Right?

[Steve Bannon]

Because it's really. The MoU is non binding of itself. So that process is a whole process that's kind of, you know, got its own logic processes, internal, you know, so

[Stephen K. Bannon]

dumb questions, Mr. Bannon. Don't question Mr. Geopolitical Guru of mine if you're gonna do that 60 day memorandum. 60 days. We'll see if you perform which. Which, by the way, they'll be perfect angel. 60 days, 60 first day to return to the devil that they are. But if you're going to do this, why allow them to sell oil in those 60 days? Why don't you keep the embargo on? Nothing to do with anything.

[Steve Bannon]

I'm 100%. I'm 100%. You lock the. You lock everything in. You don't let them do anything. You don't let them monetize it. I keep carry a battle group out there. Every ship comes in. If it's all from Iran, you turn it back around and send it back to boundaries. I think you don't give them a penny of the cash. No assets, no lift, nothing.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Where were you? Where weren't you?

[Steve Bannon]

No, no, we broke. No, I'm just a simple Mick here in the war room, Eric. But one of the reasons I think the President would say you guys have got it wrong is because he wants to bring down. He wants to get the economy revved back up like we had before the war started. Obviously that's predicated upon full spectrum energy dominance. Talk to us about this inflation number, the personal consumption expenditures, PC. Why is that such a big number? Why is the Fed focus on it and excludes, I don't know, food and energy? Why is that and why is this such an important number?

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Well, first in the same number, it's the one that the Fed uses as probably the main judge. PCE plus the, you know, the PPI or the price producer price index, those are the two that they would normally look at. But PC is important because it's really everything we do, everything we buy, every service we do, it encompasses everything. And it's so important that it's 4.2% over 4%. We have to go back to April of 2023, late, you know, halfway through Biden's term to see an inflation number this hot. So no, it's, it's a terrible number. And the worst part of this TV and I've talked about this going through, in fact Steve, in the first couple of weeks of the war, I on here saying we got to be careful because inflation is going to go. We're like, oh well, if the price comes down, oil price comes down, don't worry. Gas prices will come down. Well, they won't. Gas prices go up like a rocket and come down like an escalator. That's the way it happens. These prices are sticky. They're sticking to the personal consumption expenditure number. They're creating a higher inflation for everything. Then when you pull out food and energy, which is insane to do because we use food and energy every day, it's still way elevated and on the trend higher and it will continue to stay elevated and trend higher for at least one more month. And this is pushing up against a midterm election that could be disastrous with inflation running.

[Steve Bannon]

This, remember is we're isn't the Biden.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

I got inflation.

[Steve Bannon]

Let's, let's, let's put that off to the side for a second. Isn't the logic, what the President is saying is that as you said right now, what is encapsulated in this number is you've got a bunch of 140, 125, 115 dollars, $100 oil that's been bought, that's gotta be processed and these guys ain't gonna process it at a loss. Right? So we're not to the $70 President Trump saying last night $60 handle on it, that's all to come. Isn't the way you do that is let these guys start. Let them start coming off the sanctions. I don't agree with it, but isn't one of the logics is let them come off the sanctions and get more of the $40 and $50, $60 oil out there?

[Stephen K. Bannon]

No, I disagree with that wholeheartedly. I think we don't have an oil price problem, crude oil price problem anymore. Now we have a gasoline price problem that's going to be very sticky throughout the summer. We have, I think we have the highest travel Memorial Day in the history of our country. People are driving at $4 a gallon of gasoline. That's 25% higher than the first Trump term. Trump yesterday said don't worry, gas is going to get to 225. I can still love Trump. I can still be America first. I can still believe in this president as the greatest president in my lifetime. But I can also say he's wrong about that. I've done Oil for 40 years. All right. And no oil inside now. I was a marketing representative for ExxonMobil First. 92% of all the gasoline sold in America is sold by independent franchisees, independent dealers only about 5 to 7% is actually ExxonMobil selling it for themselves. ExxonMobil, Shell, Conoco, the people that Trump called out yesterday to come into the White House and get their oil prices down, those aren't the ones who are selling gasoline. That's not where the gouging is happening. Gouging may likely be happening. Gouging is happening on the retail level. It's mom and pop. It's the guy that the guy who owns 10 Shell gas stations or sun gas stations. Those are the people are keeping the prices high. There is no way to regulate the gutter. We have anti gouging laws on the state level but the states have to declare a state emergency to kick in the gouging. It's almost impossible to, to, to bring prices down if they're being gouged at the local level. So we're in a tough predicament but it's not something you can hear. You know, I hate to do it but we've been beaten the trum right here in war room to to get through this thing a lot faster than we actually did.

[Steve Bannon]

If you have to go through hell, go through as quickly as possible. Eric, tell us about you're heading to Nashville. Why are you taking the show on the road? The last one was huge. Went to the villages. That was overwhelming. Why Nashville?

[Stephen K. Bannon]

I want to go to the heartbeat of where true conservatives live. Conservatives live in America. We have such a huge basin we had obviously in central Florida. We have in Nashville, Tennessee. We're going to probably head out to, I think we're going to Florida, Bama, and then we're going to head out to Phoenix. All the places where people love real America's voice, love Steve Bannon war room, my show, bowling and really tap into people's what they want to hear, what they want to talk about. We talk, we put people on in the audience. We've sold out every place. Standing room only. If you're in the area, please come by John Rich's Redneck Riviera. John will be joining us. We're going to talk all things like what's on your mind? What do you want the politicians to hear? Because Steve, as you know, they listen to our shows and they hear what we're saying.

[Steve Bannon]

What's your sense last night? And we're going to have, if everything works out, hopefully we'll have Ambassador Crowley on here. Talk about the 10 day run up to the fourth huge event last night. What's your sense of where people's heads are in the run up to the 250th commemoration of the signing of the Declaration of Independence, just where they think the country is.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Sir, I think that, I think the event, the events surrounding the anniversary will, will bring back some patriotism, bring back some conservative voters. I think right now people are disillusioned. I mean, the base is wondering why we're spending so much money, why we're allowing things to happen that they don't like, why prices are this high. When we literally escorted Biden out of the office because of prices. I think that 250 will help us a lot. And I hope, I hope, you know, I hate to say this, but I hope one of the either Clarence Thomas or Alito retires so people realize how important it is to keep the Senate. Because if you don't have the Senate, you're going to have a hard Trump's going to have a hard time getting any of his choices through on time. So I would hope that, you know, they do it and they do it early enough after the midterms so we can work on getting another Supreme Court justice in there. 772 sounds a lot better than whatever we are. We're allegedly six three. We might actually be five five. But you know, you know that as well.

[Steve Bannon]

We're hanging, in fact, we're hanging for these big announcements. I talked to Mike Davis, the viceroy, or made contact with him earlier this morning about the dropping of the one we're going to hear about birthright citizenship. It's quite ironic in the 250th birth of our nation that we're about to have a decision that could codify how radical this country's change. Eric, where do people go for all the content for the shows on the road? Everything you got, sir.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

The real America's voice. Every day at 4 leading into Band of War room at 5. Also at EricBoling. E R I C B O L L I N G. Everywhere. The Edge on YouTube and the bowling show everywhere else. Appreciate you guys. And keep doing it, man. Keep crushing it. My. My OG Conservative True north brother.

[Steve Bannon]

Holy. Are we taking. Are we taking a bowling upgrade on the road with us? Is that. That's what I'm hearing. Rumor has it

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Maureen Bannon will be joining the bowling show tomorrow. Friday afternoon, right towards the end of the 4 o' clock hour. We're looking forward to maybe. Hey, Maury, maybe. Maybe get a little insight on Mr. Stephen K. Bannon. You know, the home life behind the scenes, behind the. Behind the curtain, so to speak.

[Steve Bannon]

There's no home life. What you. What you see is what you. What you see is what you get right here.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

We know that. That's why you're so good at it. That's because as you and I connect that way because we are the same people in front of the cameras, behind. I appreciate you. Appreciate Maureen. I'll see you. See you tomorrow afternoon, Maureen.

[Steve Bannon]

Okay, brother. Thank you so much. Appreciate you. You're not going to rat us out during the Internet. This national event's a big event. Got John, Rich, got everybody. So much is happening. Eric's taking the show on the road. Rav's everywhere. Really want to thank Real America's Voice. Hopefully we're going to get Ambassador. I know she's overwhelmed today. Hope to get Ambassador Crowley on the show and walk through what's going to happen. Last night couldn't have been better. I mean, really a special presentation. People know I'm a sucker for the music. I thought the music was unbelievable.

[Newt Gingrich]

Mo.

[Steve Bannon]

And just a great turnout. The military bands, which are my favorite, just absolutely amazing. And some of these singers from the army are just absolutely amazing.

[Eric Bolling]

Incredible.

[Steve Bannon]

Okay, Birchgold, they've got a special. Only goes to July 10th. With a qualifying purchase, you get a free 1oz silver round. Easiest way to do this, just take your phone out and text Bannon B A N N O N at 989-898. You get the ultimate guide for investing in Golden Precious Mouse. But more importantly, get to talk to Philip Patrick in the team, particularly now about financial turbulence. Another hot print. Peter Navarro's got a pretty good piece out. Just came out in Real clear markets, kind of debating this. When I was diagnosed, all I wanted to do was get back to work. I wanted to get back to that trajectory that I was on prior to the cancer. I always felt like I had value.

[Eric Bolling]

I had a place on the team

[Steve Bannon]

to just be treated with dignity.

[Eric Bolling]

It means everything.

[Steve Bannon]

Research shows there is a significant connection between the ability to continue to work and cancer recovery. We can make work a better place

[Ambassador Monica Crowley]

for healing, learn more and sign the

[Steve Bannon]

[e-mail] this is Newt Ginglish, former Speaker

[Newt Gingrich]

of the House and a proud American citizen. I'm celebrating America's 250th birthday on my podcast Newt's World with 15 special episodes. And I've got some great guests. Walter Isaacson, Jonathan Turley, Brett Baer.

[Steve Bannon]

I will be working because it's a big, big day. I'll be in Washington and have all kinds of coverage through the day of America.

[Cancer Patient/Guest]

250 Rachel Compostuffi there's nothing like American music. We're the home of rock and roll. We're the home of rap. We're the home of pop music.

[Newt Gingrich]

Eric Metaxas Jared Isaacman.

[Eric Bolling]

I plan to be flying in an F5 fighter jet painted in Freedom 250

[Armstrong and Getty (Jack Armstrong or Joe Getty)]

colors, along with four other fighter jets flying over the nation's capital, the story

[Newt Gingrich]

of the national anthem and the president, Donald J. Trump. Join me and let's celebrate America's 250. Listen to Newts World on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcast or wherever you get your podcast.

[Armstrong and Getty (Jack Armstrong or Joe Getty)]

Why should you listen to Armstrong and Getty on demand? We're not boring. A lot of news is boring and tedious and depressing and makes you angry. You don't want to live your life like that. Hey, I'm Jack Armstrong. He's Joe Getty. We're Armstrong and Getty. We try to bring you the truth and help you figure out this crazy modern world.

[Steve Bannon]

How about something about a comedic tone?

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We have a winner. Yes, listen to Armstrong and Getty on Demand on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcast.

[J.R. Martinez]

2026 marks the 250th anniversary of America. The soul of this country is found in the stories of those who defended it. I'm J.R. martinez, a U.S. army veteran. I know that true valor isn't just a word. It's a choice made in a split second. That's why I'm honored to bring you a brand new season of Medal of Stories of Courage from Pushkin Industries and iHeart Podcast. You'll fly into the heart of a rescue mission with Air Force pilot James Fleming in Vietnam.

[Steve Bannon]

I'm going to put you out in the middle of hell. If you have to come home, I'll bring you home. That's my duty. It's my honor.

[J.R. Martinez]

We'll also travel back to 1926 to witness Richard Byrd's historic flight over the North Pole. These are more than just stories of combat. They are testaments to leadership, community and the human spirit. Listen to Medal of Honor on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast.

[Cancer Patient/Guest]

Truly, Kate, such a remarkable day on Capitol Hill and one you really don't see in this era of Republicans so eager to show fealty to Donald Trump. I actually want to borrow a New York the New York Times lead today on this from my friend Michael Gold, because I think it sums it up perfectly. They wrote, the confrontation came over lunch. The cleanup began after dinner. That is what we saw. I do want to start with the news, which is what you mentioned at the top here, the reversal on the War Powers Resolution. As you mentioned, it came just hours after the president clashed angrily with Senate Republicans behind closed doors in this lunch, specifically with Senator Bill Cassidy. But later in the day, in a 50 to 47 vote, one senator voted presentation, they defeated that War Powers Resolution that they had just passed the day before on Tuesday. Now, I should note this is a largely symbolic measure or move, I should say didn't really change much of the crux of the original legislation, but unmistakably is a sign to try and mollify the president, who again was really clashing and berating members earlier in the day. But to get back to that, first yesterday we knew the president was going to the Hill for lunch with Senate Republicans right before he did. He kind of snatched defeat from the jaws of victory for Republicans and his White House alike. He said that he was not going to move forward with a bill signing on a very popular and bipartisan housing bill, one that his own team here at the White House had been celebrating that same day, including, we also saw the House Speaker, Mike Johnson, touting it earlier in the day as well. Then he sent the day, as I mentioned before, berating Senate Republicans largely over that War Powers Resolution, where they kind of rebuked him on Tuesday and specifically at one point we were told that he devolved into a shouting match with Senator Bill Cassidy. At one point during that lunch, the president called the senator a, quote, lunatic. So that just shows how I think tense things are currently in Congress. I will note Cassidy was one of the people who did ultimately change his vote to go for this war power war powers resolution vote. Changing it yesterday, he said that was after receiving a briefing from the vice president in Steve Wyckoff. We heard similar things from Rand Paul, another person who changed his vote arguing that he said since the hostility seemed to be over, the president gave me to give consideration to his negotiating position. I will do so. So we'll see where things go from now. But this is not the. The end, I think of the infighting, Kate, among Republicans on the Hill. Why does President Trump keep blindsided Republicans

[Ambassador Monica Crowley]

on a number of legislative issues, including this morning sign.

[Steve Bannon]

We called him on set. He's been saying consistently for months that the State of America act is a top priority. I talked to him about it this morning an hour before he made that announcement. I convinced him that I thought was his priorities and the policy he. I needed time to actually go through with him the great policies and the changes we made from the original Senate

[Newt Gingrich]

bill

[Ambassador Monica Crowley]

finally test is.

[Cancer Patient/Guest]

But isn't this unhelpful?

[Steve Bannon]

I think.

[J.R. Martinez]

I think it'll.

[Steve Bannon]

It'll delay the sign, but I think

[Armstrong and Getty (Jack Armstrong or Joe Getty)]

we get it done.

[Steve Bannon]

A quick fact check. They were blindsided. In fact, a stage had already been set up at the Capitol for the bill signing.

[Cancer Patient/Guest]

The president said that he's canceling the signing until Save Us Pass.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

He said he's not coming today.

[Newt Gingrich]

Okay.

[Steve Bannon]

All right, I just heard that.

[Cancer Patient/Guest]

So what can you say about that?

[Steve Bannon]

Is that going to work? Is that how your members going to react to it? I. I don't. I just don't have. I guess I would say at this point I don't have any observ. Okay, just so we understand the kind of order of battle here, the president I think was alerted basically that, hey, before this lunch and I think it was with the steering committee. I mean, I guess Cassidy came in, but with the steering committee, not with the entire conference. The. And it wasn't everybody in his face. I think he and Cassidy got into it. The president said, look, I'm not going to sign the housing bill, which everybody's worked on. And we had the team from Compass yesterday on here. They had worked on it. Daniel kissing the team. It's not perfect, but it's a really good piece of legislation. It's the first big thing I think has been passed that actually had bipartisan support. But the President said, I'm not going to do it. You're not listening to me. That the Save America act is that it's Save America. And the President's over and over again has said, this is so important. I'm not going to do anything until that gets done. And yet they had this piece of legislation and I think he just said, look, we're not going to do this. I'm not going up there. I'm not going to have a signing ceremony, I'm not going to have a press conference, take questions from the press. When this is the most important thing. And if the reporting is correct and the White House was called, the staff's called, oh, you know, a surprise or Johnson or people on the Hill, I don't understand why. Maybe it's time to start listening to President Trump. And when he says something, just like he makes these. When he says something, he means it. In particular on this, he couldn't mo. How many true socialists put it. How many times. Every time he talks about legislation, it's always about Save America. Is there any doubt in your military mind that the President. This is the President's priority?

[Cancer Patient/Guest]

Not at all.

[Steve Bannon]

It's very clear.

[Ambassador Monica Crowley]

Very crystal clear.

[Steve Bannon]

Crystal clear. And so I don't know why we have a big. And actually go up and remember, the President of the United States doesn't go to Capitol Hill often. He's invited by the speaker of the House, I think by the Constitution, to give an update on the Union. To give an update on the Union on an annual basis that's become now the State of the Union, this big, you know, pageantry and this whole thing of State of the Union for, I think for the first hundred years, he sent like a letter, he sent a memo and it was read. I'm not sure guys even went up and actually did it. Certainly not to the pomp and circumstances done today. My point is, when he goes up, it's a big deal. The chief executive does not go up to the Hill often. So going up yesterday to see the Senate, particularly in this situation where they're treating him like a lame duck to the fact that he's trying to negotiate this deal. And clearly you got Marco over there saying one thing about the straits, there's another thing being negotiated. Mou. Okay, no big deal. We'll figure it out. But what the President doesn't need. And they said they go. Which is highly symbolic. Yeah, it's highly symbolic to the Fricking. Arabs and the Persians in the region and the Turks and everybody else is saying, hey. Because the headline on BBC, the headline all over the world, Mo, you saw this, is that hey, the Senate has put restrictions on the president on his War Powers Act. They don't understand the nuance of the unconstitutional War Powers Act. They just read the headlines and it says and it shows dissension that a body that he controls or is controlled by his party and every person in there is in there. The 53 are in there because of Donald Trump. If he didn't have his endorsement, you're not in there too Wit. Cornyn and Cassidy are going home because they crossed him on so many occasions. Going home. And Cassidy finished third in a primary. Unprecedented. It's unprecedented for a coming to lose. The way the money works and the structure of this and the perks. It's virtually impossible to beat a senator in a primary in a state. These are highly unusual things. And so he goes up there having already trying to force him as a forcing function to force him to sign something. So then his promise is meaningless. I don't understand what they're thinking about. I don't understand what they don't get. He's put this, he's anchored his because guess why? Because of the stealing of elections. At the same time, you've got Pulte, you've got Solomon, you've got others that are up there on this excavation process. That's what it is to get to the bottom of all this. I believe you heard John Solomon on the show last night, was gracious enough to join us as he was going back to work at the White House. He's a temporary employee over there for I think 210 days or something like that. On declassification, he told you, hey, some things are coming. So then the president goes into the lunch. What have I said here? Over and over and over again? Been very consistent. They're treating him worse than a lame duck because a lame duck, once the guy's out of office or the time's moving on, you treat him with some respect. You give him a head nod. Not a problem. Hope that we'll give you a watch when you leave. Right? A gold watch. It's all going to work out. But here they're not treating him with respect. He carried these people across the gold line in November of 2024. The house and the Senate, we have a huge dog fight in front of us and obviously the print today. And I just want to say again that Peter Navarro disagrees with this. He's got a great piece up in RealClear's market. I got talked to Peter right before he came on air. We're trying to get Peter on the afternoon show, but it's a hot print. You know, people are very concerned about this. President's working nonstop to try to work things through, and they show no respect. So he comes up for this lunch, a guy that loses in a primary, and Cassie says, hey, I got. I'm Irish. I got Irish timber. Hey, so do I. I empathize. I know what you. You know. What are you laughing for?

[Stephen K. Bannon]

I'm not laughing.

[Steve Bannon]

What are you laughing for? You're the one who's got the hot temper. This one gotta keep.

[Ambassador Monica Crowley]

I. I do.

[Steve Bannon]

No, no, we gotta keep you on the short train here. You're on the border. You gotta be respected. You class it up. Cassidy and the President, they make it seem like it was. Everybody wasn't. I think it was Cassidy. And they got heated. In fact, they started yelling, or at least Cassie started yelling at the President of the United States. Put that in your mind for a second. Lyndon Johnson or Jack Kennedy or Richard Nixon gonna go up to Capitol Hill, to the Senate, and they're gonna. Mike Mansfield. These guys are gonna start yelling at him. I don't. What are you talking about? This is like Yankees. This is Donald Trump. We didn't have Trump. If you didn't have Trump, you wouldn't have our country. They just flat out. If you didn't have Trump, you wouldn't have a country. You see what happened Tuesday night with these young progressive Marxists in New York City that spread throughout the country, and I realize only 7% of the vote, but hey, 7% that shows up has power. If you didn't have Trump, you wouldn't have a country. Flat out. Do we have to do more? You damn right. Are we. Only at the beginning of this fight. You're damn right. And this is for all the Republicans out there that, you know, want to look away from this. I'm trying to get Rosemary Jenks up because we've got, I think, great ruling on deportations. Everybody that understands it's too hard to fight this color revolution. It's too hard to fight the invasion that went on. This is why the country's in the shape it's in. Because since, I don't know, Nixon. Let's pick a random number. Since Nixon, you've controlled the Senate. You've controlled the Senate, the House, and the White House just as much as the Democrats. Then how did the country get in such a bad shape because the Democrats are fighting focused on what they are trying to accomplish. And it gets more and more radical every day. Look at the Democratic Party today, dsa. It's Democrat socialist, what I call Marxist jihadist. And it has all the modern tools of how to do, of how to get voters out. The reason is, is that the same deadbeats sitting in that Senate, the same deadbeats, and we haven't changed the party that much. We just have not. There's a handful of Trump supporters in the House and there's a handful in the Senate and they're just playing for time, tapping Trump along. As soon as he's gone, they're going to try to revert back to it. Now we're going to raise bloody hell and fight like hell, make sure that doesn't happen. But that's what they intend to happen. You see this? And then get this. Cassidy goes over to the White House to the Situation Room after the meeting and has a briefing by the VP in Wyckoff. That's great. And then comes back and changes vote. Yo, are you not spending time? You have access to intelligence up there? Or if you don't think you got enough access, did anybody reach out to the White House and say, hey, maybe we get further access? I don't understand how after you vote for the war powers to humiliate and embarrass the president and make it harder for him to negotiate, then you go get a briefing and reverse the vote. Is this information not available to you? Do you take these profound votes to limit the Commander in Chief on something that Cassidy's guys should understand? I think most constitutional lawyers, or at least most constitutional lawyers on the right will say, you know, this is unconstitutional, the War Powers act in and of itself is unconstitutional. So to take take that measure against the president in the middle of a war when he's trying to negotiate with these, with people who are not easy to negotiate with, that you take that, then you go get a briefing. Oh, yeah, I'll change after briefing. I don't get the process and I also don't get people just allowing the Senate to go on recess. I realize I was previously scheduled. I don't give a damn. I got a lot of previously scheduled stuff. The President states got a of lot of previously scheduled stuff. He calls an audible in the middle of the day and does something else because of the urgency of the matter. Short break. We rejoice when there's no more. Let's take down the ccp.

[Cancer Patient/Guest]

I need to be healthy every day to survive it and go to the next chem around and the next chemo round. So it's important that work was part of that to keep my mind busy for eight, nine hours. And then I had to go back and face the reality. I had a goal and the goal is to survive.

[Steve Bannon]

Research shows there is a significant connection between the ability to continue to work and cancer recovery. We can make work a better place

[Ambassador Monica Crowley]

for healing, learn more and sign the

[Steve Bannon]

[e-mail] this is Newt Gingrich, former Speaker

[Newt Gingrich]

of the House and a proud American citizen. I'm celebrating America's 250th birthday on my podcast New Twirl with 15 special episodes. And I've got some great guests. Walter Isaacson, Jonathan Turley, Brett Baer.

[Steve Bannon]

I will be working because it's a big, big day. I'll be in Washington and have all kinds of coverage through the day of America.

[Cancer Patient/Guest]

250 Rachel Campos Duffy there's nothing like American music. We're the home of rock and roll. We're the home of rap. We're the home of pop music.

[Newt Gingrich]

Eric Matox, Jared Isaacman.

[Eric Bolling]

I plan to be flying in an F5 fighter jet painted in Freedom 250 colors, along with four other fighter jets flying over the nation's capital, the story

[Newt Gingrich]

of the national anthem and the President, Donald J. Trump. Join me and let's celebrate America's 250. Listen to Newts World on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcast or wherever you get your podcast.

[Armstrong and Getty (Jack Armstrong or Joe Getty)]

Why should you listen to Armstrong and Getty on demand? We're not boring. A lot of news is boring and tedious and depressing and makes you angry. You don't want to live your life like that. Hey, I'm Jack Armstrong. He's Joe Getty. We're Armstrong and Getty. We try to bring you the truth and help you figure out this crazy

[Steve Bannon]

modern world about something about a comedic tone.

[Armstrong and Getty (Jack Armstrong or Joe Getty)]

We have a winner. Yes, listen to Armstrong, you Getty on Demand on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[J.R. Martinez]

2026 marks the 250th anniversary of America. The soul of this country is found in the stories of those who defended it. I'm J.R. martinez, a U.S. army veteran. I know that true valor isn't just a word. It's a choice made in a split second. That's why I'm honored to bring you a brand new season of Medal of Honor, Stories of Courage from Pushkin Industries and IHEART podcast, you'll fly into the heart of a rescue mission with Air Force pilot James Fleming in Vietnam.

[Steve Bannon]

I'm gonna put you out in the middle of hell. If you have to come home, I'll bring you home. That's my duty. It's my honor.

[J.R. Martinez]

We'll also travel back to 1926 to witness Richard Byrd's historic flight over the North Pole. These are more than just stories, stories of combat. They are testaments to leadership, community and the human spirit. Listen to Medal of Honor on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Steve Bannon]

War Room here's your host, Stephen K. Ban. Okay, I'm honored by, by the way, just, just in the neighborhood. Ambassador Monica Crowley, formerly a co host in a regular contributor. Thank you, Scott Bess. You guys did well. The class of the War Room did quite well.

[Ambassador Monica Crowley]

Well, it's great to see you again. It's been a minute, Steve. Great to be back here with the posy on the War room. And yeah, you lost your entire like guest and co host base.

[Eric Bolling]

Right?

[Steve Bannon]

Best than you. But hey, better, better. Okay, we got a bunch we're going to do. We were here, we did live last night, I think six hours of just a magnificent kickoff. At the top of the hour. We're going to do a open on that and then get your comments. I want to talk about everything else, though. We have, you know, RAF covers wall to wall, the president's movement, everything's going on. In fact, we just started with Marco, the Secretary of State in the Middle east in this discussion of Hormuz. So we're in the middle of the night and we do it all live. And I just got to tell you, it's been fantastic, whether it's the Russia or particularly China. I want to start with China because I don't think everybody knows. Most people know your connection with Richard Nixon and how much and particularly in those years later in life when he was reflective on his importance in history and particularly related to China. What did it feel like for you to go back representing the President of the United States as the ambassador for protocol and organizing the whole thing, understanding that your mentor, that had been the exact place where he had had such a big impact on history.

[Ambassador Monica Crowley]

Well, thank you so much for that question and it's a huge question and it means a lot to me personally because I also wrote my entire Ph.D. dissertation at Columbia on the evolution of U.S. policy toward the People's Republic of China, starting with Truman and Acheson in 1948, all the way through 20 years

[Steve Bannon]

later, the China, where we gave China to the Chinese Communist Party.

[Ambassador Monica Crowley]

Well, more gentle. Right. Well, when, when Truman decided that we couldn't fight a two front war against two separate Chinese monolithic parties, first one in Moscow obviously was paramount and the premier threat, or the second one in Beijing. We just didn't have it in us after World War II that had depleted so much of our resources, forces. So Truman made a decision that, look, we're just going to have to see this for now because we've got a primary battle in the new Cold War against the Soviet Union. Fast forward 20, 25 years.

[Steve Bannon]

Very much like the philosophy of World War II. We have to beat the Germans. The Japanese will come after that. Still the same mindset, because I take a different mindset. We're a Pacific nation, same mindset. We got to save Europe first.

[Ambassador Monica Crowley]

Right.

[Steve Bannon]

We'll worry about China on the back

[Ambassador Monica Crowley]

end, triage the threats. Right. Especially coming after World War II. And all of our resources and the American people were spent after World War II. And I actually have a quote in my dissertation coming from Dean Acheson where Truman says, you know, how are we going to even rally the American people to confront the Cold War threat posed by the Soviets, never mind the Chinese Communists are it. And Acheson replies to him, we have to scare the hell out of the American people. And that the psyop there to get. I'm not saying that the Soviets weren't a threat, of course they were. But in order to mobilize the American.

[Steve Bannon]

It also shows you how much the American people want to put World War II in back of them.

[Cancer Patient/Guest]

Yeah.

[Ambassador Monica Crowley]

And wanted to revert to an America first posture after World War II. And then of course, we faced a new threat. But going back to China, you know, 20 years after Truman and I wrote about this in my dissertation, Nixon. Nixon wanted to open the door eventually. Would he have done it that soon without Vietnam? Probably not. But because our resources were so drained, and I wrote about this, this was the basis of my argument, but because our resources were so drained in Vietnam, he could not confront either the Soviet Union or the Chinese Communist Party in the kind of aggressive way he wanted to. Therefore he had to buy time until we could get past Vietnam and you could get a president like Reagan who was more freed up to confront both threats in a more aggressive way. So you had detente with the Soviet Union and you had the opening to China. And both of those things were designed not as long term strategies, but to buy time so the US could recoup its Losses after Vietnam get back on its feet and then. And then confront both of these threats in a more aggressive way. My very first trip to China was in 1993 with President Nixon. And if we have time, Steve, I want to share this. So when I went with him in 1993, China was just coming out of its isolation. Nixon opened the door in 72, but it took them another 20 years to kind of figure out exactly what to do. And Nixon had a brilliant insight into this. When the wall came down, Gorbachev in Russia decided to put political reform ahead of economic reform. It was glassnose before it was perestroika that immediately collapsed the system, because you cannot give people who have been living under the jackboot of tyranny a choice in their political system, even if it was just their local races. Right. In their community, and then not given them a choice in their economic life. Right. So that immediately accelerated the collapse of the Soviet Union. The Chinese saw that, and being much smarter, they did the exact opposite. They did economic reform first, and that staved off any demand for political reform. Right. So in 93, they were just coming out of all of this. They were still a very agrarian society.

[Steve Bannon]

Coming out of Tiananmen Square.

[Ambassador Monica Crowley]

Yeah, coming out of Tiananmen Square in 1989. This is. This is 93. And when I was in Beijing and Shanghai with President Nixon meeting the entire Chinese Communist leadership, what was striking is that in all of these major cities there were four lane highways. Steve. The main, the lane on the left was meant for Chinese Communist vehicles. You'd see one or two as the leadership would go through the streets. The next lane over was for private vehicles, totally empty. The next lane over was for, like, horses and bicycles, totally full. Millions of people in that lane. And the final lane was for donkeys and carts and that kind of thing. Steer oxen. Totally full 1993. Fast forward. I go back with Secretary Mnuchin in 2019 negotiating the first trade deal, and I look out of my hotel window in Shanghai and I can not believe what I'm saying. Also this time with President Trump. Steve, what struck me is in the space of one generation, the Chinese have gone from an agrarian society to an industrial and nuclear superpower. And everybody in America with the resources has to go to China and see with their own eyes what we are up against.

[Steve Bannon]

We're up against. We're going to take a short break. In fact, I want to restructure and come back to the still gas.

[Cancer Patient/Guest]

More questions. This.

[Steve Bannon]

Richard Nixon, though, never forgot for a second they're communists.

[Ambassador Monica Crowley]

Exactly.

[Steve Bannon]

He never exactly. He never. He never folded.

[Ambassador Monica Crowley]

No illusions. As he used to say. I'm under no illusions.

[Armstrong and Getty (Jack Armstrong or Joe Getty)]

Illusions.

[Steve Bannon]

We're taking a short commercial break. Ambassador Monica Crowley, old friend of the show, is now in charge of everything, protocol and running America's 250. We had a magnificent kickoff last night. We're getting into to all the details of that next in the War Room.