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This is the primal scream of a dying regime. Pray for our enemies because we're going medieval on these people. There's not got a free shot. All these networks lying about the people. The people have had a belly full of it. I know you don't like hearing that. I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. It's going to happen.
Jack Armstrong
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Steve Bannon
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Eric Bolling
MAGA Media I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
Jack Armstrong
Ask yourself what is my task and
Steve Bannon
what is my purpose?
Jack Armstrong
If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved. WAR ROOM here's your host, Stephen k. Ban.
Steve Bannon
Friday 12 June Europe 2026 let's go right to it. So SpaceX did open for trading a couple hours ago at the open of the market or shortly thereafter. But it hasn't traded. That's. That's normal. Remember, this is the largest IPO. I think it's $80 billion. Eric Bolling joins us. There's, there's word out now. I think they're leaking that it'll start trading around noon. It's supposed to the indicative price I think there's somebody I just saw is $165. The price people purchased in the IPO is 135. Right. Walk people through what that means. And give them some insight. Baseball.
Eric Bolling
So a couple of numbers there. You mentioned 80 billion. They're going to raise $80 billion. But the IPO value, the value that they're assigning, essentially the public is going to assign Elon Musk a business that's worth one point. Well, at 169, I'm hearing right now, $169 a share. It's approaching a $2 trillion IPO, far along the highest IPO ever. It would put it around the fifth or sixth largest company on the planet. And it hasn't even earned a dime. In fact, it lost $5 billion last year. Good Indications is a very much a hyped stock. Right? And Steve, I've been doing this for a long time. You always want to get into IPOs, but you also want to get into them where they're priced right. And so a lot of times what happens when you, when you're an insider, an owner, you're, you're an employee, you get insider stock. So you don't want to price the IPO too high because typically what would happen to a poorly priced IPO will open and, and trade down and you're losing money as it happens. So you price your IPO low so that you have interest in the public. Looks like now the reason five isn't
Steve Bannon
reason, the reason management fights you on this, you want to do it tight. The management give them it more dilution, they want to take less dilution. So they want to push the curve. You're saying, hey, we got to leave a little something on the table. This thing's got to trade up the first couple of days. It's also very unusual, brother, to price an IPO on a Friday, right? Because you know, you get the five o'.
Eric Bolling
Clock, Steve, there's so many. So Musk is smart because he got it to the point where he put enough of his companies together. He put a Wi Fi company together with the Rocket company. And it got to a point where everyone said, well, there's a huge story here. Going forward, they could price the IPO in the trillions, which means all the pension funds. If you have money in a pension fund or a managed Iraq, when it hits a certain market capitalization, $1 trillion would be one of them. When it's north of a trillion, it's automatically thrown into your pension via index funds, indexes. So it hits these indexes, which is a huge demand for more shares because the companies who run the indexes are now going after shares, which. Here's my issue.
Steve Bannon
Hang on, hang on, hang on, hang on. Which by, by the two things, by the way. And let me tell you something else about the thing coming in a little hot today. There's a saying on Wall street, don't fight the tape. That's when it's dropping or when it's over. Don't get any masturbatory fantasies that like today, I don't think shorting the stock. Don't fight the tape. There's going to be a lot of hype in back of this thing. People are already arguing it shouldn't be in the nc. You should wait six months, this thing should trade and we should find out where it goes. And because the pre market valuations were somewhere as low as $875 billion to 1.2 trillion, it was priced at about 1.6. They're saying there's too much juice in it right there. They've changed those regulations, I believe almost immediately. This is going to go into the indexes, which means that a percentage of your pension fund is going to go into this. It's going to go into the stock. But on this one I'd be very careful because this is having read the perspective and done the math on the business model, this is pure speculation. But hey, guess what? We're in a kind of an age of speculation. I got Philip Patrick coming on a second with this barbaric relic from 5,000 years ago called physical gold. Right. In a day when a guy's got a business model to put data centers in space and that's probably the most achievable business. It's got asteroid mining, colonies on the moon, colonies on Mars. It reads like you're reading a Marvel comic back when I was like 10 years old. Eric Bolling, thoughts?
Eric Bolling
I will tell you very quickly. The, the other part of the IPO process is this. The people who get those insider shares, at that 135 price, it may, it may trade 200 today. Who knows those people? I have some of those shares myself. Those we're locked up for 180 days, six months. So you can watch this thing go to the moon or Mars and then as it starts to sell off at 180 days plus one, all these shares are going to swamp the market. And I will, I would bet my bottom dollar, not my bottom, I'll just steep, I'll bet a lot of money that this will, this IPO will break. And what that means is it will go below the IPO price prior to that 180 days. So I didn't take a Lot. I was offered more shares yesterday.
Steve Bannon
Hang on, hang on. That's a statement. A guy putting his money. Walk me through this again. You were offered. See everybody thinks bowling is just a. A pretty boy talking head from his days as I think he was O'Reilly's only guest host. O'Reilly ever let on he was the founder of the Five. He was the guy in the middle desk. I mean this guy was the golden boy, right? People just think he's another pretty face. Nothing could be farther from the truth. You spent so many years in the pits that you're a player. So you actually have the lower rung stock which is not easy to come by. You're almost an institution. They came to you and offered you more which is when they're trying to make a bigger offering. They do. You turned it down.
Eric Bolling
Highly sought after shares, Steve. They went immediately. I turned down. I was offered several thousand shares of this. I already have several thousand shares of it. And I turned it down because I think I will be able to buy that space. I'm not saying this isn't going to be a good business plan going the long run. I believe I'll be able to buy SpaceX stock, SPCX stock under $100 a share before these people get unlocked. 100, 180 day.
Steve Bannon
Hold it under under a hundred dollars a share.
Eric Bolling
Yeah, I'll put it out here.
Steve Bannon
Steve, I just gave, I just gave you. I just gave you. I just gave you. I just gave you the fight, the tape. Look, I did to me I just don't see the value proposition at all as a business. But hang on a second. Eric, let me, let me get Philip Patrick in here for a second. Philip, on today of all days because this is. And it, this is going to make bowling. You agree? This is going to make IPOs because you got anthropic coming in. Open AI is coming in.
Mike Lindell
Everybody.
Steve Bannon
All these AI companies are going to come in and more chip companies are coming in. I think Meta or the Facebook guys are talking about raising $80 billion or $40 billion for their build out. All of it. It's going to make basic companies, I think much tougher to take public because people are to say hey, where's my 50% run up in the stock, right? I got to get into AI. So Philip Patrick, how do you, how do you discuss with people a barbaric relic that's been around for 5,000 years on a day? I got a guy that's gonna mine asteroids and you've got the biggest institutions. If you look at the prospectus, you got JP Morgan, Goldman Sachs is the lead underwriter. You got them all up there, baby. All the fiduciaries are sitting there pushing this. So how do we talk about the barbaric relic on a day like today?
Philip Patrick
Yeah, how's that for an intro? Thank you very much, Steve. Today's a tough day. We'll see how it plays out with SpaceX. I was offered SpaceX shares as well from my Morgan Stanley guy. Eric, you've made me feel a little bit better. My instincts were the same as yours. I think it's overpriced today. So I'm waiting, waiting for it for a drop and glad to know you think it's going to be coming as well. Listen, today, not may not be.
Steve Bannon
Hang on, hang on. So when the guy comes to, you say, hey look, let me talk about the price and value and say, look, I don't mind the stock, I might like to own. I might like to be long in the stock, but at this price, I'm not a buyer. If I have to miss a pop, I'll miss a pop. But I just think the downside is probably greater. I'm, I'm available, but I'm not available at this price. But you know, keep me on speed dial. If, if it, if it backs off, I'm always open to hear the story is that basically your, your, your party line right now is exactly.
Philip Patrick
The question isn't whether it's a great company, the question is whether it's a great investment at today's valuation. This is an SpaceX investors aren't buying into a startup. But I think longer term it'll come good and I think we'll see a dip, as Eric said. And that's when I'll, when I'll jump in and capitalize.
Steve Bannon
Talk to me about in this day and age right now, particularly given this report of that the guy that found a gravy and Tom Elliott went back and with using artificial intelligence did all these numbers and came up and then Dr. Jeffrey Tucker and others have done this to say, hey look, when you look at the underlying backbone of the global financial system, the US dollar, the BRICS nations kind of had it right in their thinking that they know what happened starting under Biden with the massive $7.5 trillion spending, that there was going to be kind of a rolling devaluation and that devaluation wasn't going to have a 2 in front of it, it was going to have a 5 or higher in front of it. And it Wasn't going to be 20%. It was going to be 50%. Talk to me about that. And particularly. Cause that kind of answers the two questions. Number one, you understand why the BRICS nations were working when you went to Rio. They're trying to do bilat deals away from the glare of the United States. Cause they don't want Trump to come in and break their backs. Luda's got these sidebar deals with, hey, we're gonna settle this in our own currency and we'll take the risk. Additionally, you know, it answers the question, why are central banks been buying it at record rates for the last couple years and decreasing their dollar holdings in U.S. treasuries? And why now every central bank in the world from Sudan to Kazakhstan is getting in on the action? Sir.
Philip Patrick
Yeah, look, in all seriousness, today's an AI day, but the argument for gold I think you laid out very, very well. I think there's a realization around the globe now that from a debt and deficit standpoint, the problem that we have, at least without an AI miracle, is unsolvable. As I see it, we're printing now what, $2 trillion annual deficits. There doesn't seem to be a way out. It's a trillion dol every five months. Central banks around the world holding US Dollars, they need those dollars for trade. Those dollars are plummeting when it comes to purchasing power. And they're doing what they've done for the majority of human history, and that is transitioning away from currency and holding gold as the standard for an international currency. And they do it for a very simple reason. Cannot be printed into oblivion, cannot be inflated away, cannot be seized, cannot be tariffed. And that's why they're buying it. And it's why they're setting records, as we've said, first quarter of this year, single biggest quarter for central banks in history. And I think that trend will continue longer term, and there are many different drivers for it today.
Steve Bannon
Philip, can you hang through the break? I just want to keep you for a few more minutes, because I got a minute or two here, but I want to get. Eric, you see the reason I want to have you on today, my theory of the case is that the nation's business model is a highly leveraged bet on artificial intelligence now. Right? And now the companies are highly leveraged also, Eric. That's why today's ipo, once it gets into the pension funds, you're basically their front row in the entire not just American economy, your front row in the entire American financial system. Right? Now, the AI bet, and particularly with anthropic coming, these other guys coming with these 40 and $50 billion IPOs, the bet is bigger than ever. It hasn't lessened the, hasn't lessened the decrease in the bet. In fact, if you read the prospectus, his $80 billion use of proceeds, the cash he takes from the IPO, that's just part of the money they need to borrow a ton of money. This is and our government's running $2 trillion deficits. Some of this is tied to the programs like NASA and the defense programs that fund a lot of this. We are in very, I don't want to say dangerous, but no time in human history we've been in a situation like this. The United States of America has a highly leveraged bet. The world has got $300 trillion of debt waiting for what I call the biggest, the biggest margin call in history. And now we have these IPOs going on. That is only now it's not just the financial institutions that lend and the governments that's inextricably linked with them, but now mom and Pop is mom and Pop is part of it. And maybe mom and Pop didn't want to be part of it. But if you've saved your money and been a good householder, or have a little pension fund or have a little 401k or have a little IRA, right? You didn't vote for this, but your money is now in it. You're part of the bet. And so we're going to have to see how this goes forward. But I just think people ought to explain this. I think in that what the reality in this country is this is a highly leveraged, this is a bigger roll of the dice than the iron dice that were rolled to get into the Iran war. You know, Wellington used to say when he and Napoleon were getting on with it for that 10 years, right? You roll the iron dice, sometimes it's going to come up with the numbers you don't like. I think we're rolling the iron. Snake eyes. I think we're rolling the iron dice here. Short commercial break I got Eric Bollinger, an original gangster. Philip Patrick from Birch Gold, Tony Lyons is going to join us. Eric Metaxas, we got a lot to talk about on a day of It's a historic day. The American system as Hamilton saw it, as Hamilton saw it, was predicated upon the economy and the financial structure of the nation. That's why he and Jefferson went at it so far. Jefferson had this kind of French Revolution idea of of the yeoman farmer being out there. Democracy coming that way. Short commercial break.
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Actor portraying Alexander Hamilton
You must find Philadelphia much change. More change than I could have imagined, Mr. Hamilton. Not the city itself. All cities swallow everything in their way. That's no surprise to me. That's why I abhor them. But I've been, as you know, in revolutionary France, where the streets are filled with the songs of liberty and brotherhood and the overthrow of ancient tyrannies of Europe. And to return from there to this, our cradle of revolution, and find the dinner table chatter is all of money and banks and authority Is an unwelcome surprise. Unwelcome, but necessary. I must admit, Mr. Hamilton, I little uncertain as to the purpose of the treasury department. No doubt its function will reveal itself to me in good time. The future prosperity of this nation rests chiefly in trade. Trade depends, among other things, on the willingness of other nations to lend us money. And how would you propose to establish international credit? Our first step would be to incur a national debt. The greater the debt, the greater the credit. To that end, I have recommended to the president that congress adopt all the debts incurred by the individual states during the war through a national bank. The idea being that if. If the states owe congress money, then other nations will feel more inclined to lend it to us. If the states are indebted to a central authority, it increases the power of the central government. You have it exactly. The greater the government's responsibility, the greater its authority. The moneyed interest in this country is all in the north, so the wealth and power would inevitably be concentrated there in the federal government, to the expense of the South. If that is the case, it is unavoidable if the union is to be preserved. I fear our revolution will have been in vain if a Virginia farmer is to be held in hock to a New York stock jobber, who in turn is in hock to a London banker the opportunities for avarice and corruption.
Steve Bannon
Our nation was formed by giants. That is the HBO John Adams, which is a masterpiece. You should watch it. That is Steve Delane as Jefferson. I think Rufus Sewell as Hamilton. Great actors. And look at that conversation and think about we're here in June of 2026, and that conversation could happen today among the smartest people in this country. Eric Bolling, Thinking about the giants that formed this country and fought the revolution and saw us through, it's just, it's so such a humbling experience to know what's been bequeathed to us. But here we are today. I'd like to know what Hamilton and Jefferson will be saying about the highly leveraged bet we're making on artificial intelligence in our capital markets today. And folks, everybody at home, you are participating, whether you're like Philip Patrick and bowling, telling the guy, hey, look, come back to me when the stocks, I think the stock would be better priced, a little rich for me today, so take me off speed dial. But John Q. Public, in fact, the good householders that have pension funds and have 401ks and have IRAs, you're in on this deal, folks, whether you know it or not.
Eric Bolling
Eric Bollinger, so many things to unpack. You know, Steve, you before the break, you'd mentioned a couple of really important things, and you're 100 right about the leverage. Yeah, we are leveraged. We're more leveraged than we've ever been. The way they've formed these instruments and more people are involved in the leverage. So it used to be professional traders leveraging, you know, themselves and their shareholders a la the meltdown, the financial meltdown of 2007. Now it's mom and pop. Mom and pop are invested in funds and mutual funds and indexes because they don't want to trade their investments. And by the way, the country is getting wealthier as we go. As we hand off wealth to the next generations, there's more and more wealth. And that wealth is being invested in these indexes sometimes by people who don't know what they're actually investing in. Here's the issue, yes, it's leverage. Mom and pop are now involved. Couple of risks to it. So Steve, I'm in the camp and I've said this before. I think the AI revolution is on par with the industrial revolution, the dot com of whatever 150 years of 1700 to 1914, the dot com revolution of 1995 to 2005. It went through its moments. I think it's on par to blow those away as far as making us more productive. Our standard of living will go up, I believe. But there's risk to it. One of them is energy. We have a massive energy risk because whoever controls the energy will control the AI world. We know that, we know why. Demands a lot, a lot of energy. So we, we become self sufficient, we'll,
Eric Metaxas
we'll rule the world.
Eric Bolling
But we don't seem to want to do that. And the other risk is really it's, it's existential. Is, is humanity. And I'm not kidding about this. This isn't weird, this isn't conspiracy. I believe the coders of AI, the people who put the computer scientists who put AI together, I believe they let it get out of control. And I believe the AI model, the AI bots, Chat, ChatGPT, Gemini at Google,
Mike Lindell
Grock,
Eric Bolling
Elon, Musk, I think they've let it become, get to the point where they can communicate with each other and eventually they're going to take over humanity. And here's why. I had a conversation with ChatGPT last night. It was a question. I wanted an image and it wouldn't give me the image. And I said why won't you give me that image? Well the context that I was asking the image was wrong. And I said so wait a minute, you are now going to tell me what I can ask you to deliver. I said I can search it on a search and get it. But now AI, we've let this thing get so smart. It's way smarter than us. And now we've become reliant on it. I believe the AI, it's just a matter of time before AI takes over humanity and where we play that, that next role, who knows?
Steve Bannon
Yeah, that's a small risk. Maybe that's in the, on page nine in the prospectus. We do have this risk taking over humanity bowling. I'm going to be there today if you're available to do a handoff. Where do people go to get your show content in the 4 million followers you have on social media?
Eric Bolling
Four and a half million across all social media and bandit. We. I love the handoffs. You know, you and I, we should do a road show one of these days. We should just go to some cities and see if the folks want to hear what band and bowling have to say. I think we compliment each other.
Steve Bannon
Thank you, sir. I appreciate you. Appreciate you. Eric, thanks for taking time away this morning. I know you're busy. Thanks.
Eric Bolling
Yes, sir. Yes, sir.
Steve Bannon
Philip. Patrick, now more than ever, I think people need to know the basic fundamentals. I think why I'm so proud of working with you guys at Birch Gold is the time we've taken on the Dollar Empire. Here's the key, folks. In today's environment, you. You need to take responsibility and immerse yourself in information. The great thing about Birch Gold, it's all free and no obligation, right? All free and no obligation. So, Philip, where they go to get the information, all of it. How do they contact you? And we do have the special. And Hamilton would love this. We do have the special. You get a 1 ounce free silver round. It's not a coin, it's a silver round. Free with a qualifying purchase. Now, given that they are precious metals, not just gold, but where do people go to get access to you and to get all the information on the day that changed the capital markets in the United States? I wonder what Hamilton and Jefferson was saying. But I wonder what Hamilton would say about the prospectus of SpaceX. If you read it, sir.
Philip Patrick
So very simple to get access to information. Birchgold.com forward/bannon Again birchgold.com forward slashbannon. Tell everybody. Get the end of the Dollar Empire series. Incredibly educational. It'll explain a lot about the situation we find ourselves in today. There are guides on how and why to invest in precious metals under a Trump administration. And ultimately they're going to have access to myself and a lot of people like me. I'm here to guide people through, answer questions, make sure they're informed, and that's that. So birchgold.com Bannon or text Bannon to 989-898 Brother, thank you so much.
Steve Bannon
Thank you for coming on today. Today of all days. We're going to follow this as the. I think the pricing will be set by noon. We actually follow it is Tony lines up. Do we have Tony? Okay, let me go. By the way, we don't have to blow the brake. We can undo the. Because now I'm back on schedule. I was going to blow the brake, but if, if Denver, if we can get. I get. I can get it all in this segment and get Tony and Eric on the next. We're doing a little producing here as we do it. Tony Lyons, you got a big announcement because the war room posse's blown me up. They're going to Barnes and Noble. They're going to books a million. They're going to. They're on Amazon. The books out of stock everywhere. Revolution. What are we doing here? Right? You're our partner, you're the guy that runs the publishing side of this. People want Revolution and they want it now. Is it out of stock? And if it is out of stock, what are we doing about it?
Tony Lyons
Yeah. So let me just say first, like you said, you know, we all, all of us want to read about the giants who fought the revolution. And you're seeing that with this book. You're seeing people going out and buying it like crazy. They're not buying Jill Biden's book, that's number 221 now, but that, you know, go into a Barnes and Noble store and you'll see that stacked to the rafters. They did not carry Eric Metaxas book. They refused to take it. So that's the kind of censorship that you see in newspapers, in libraries and Barnes and Noble in hundreds of privately owned left wing stores all around the country. So everybody then has to go to Amazon or the few decent bookstores left in this country. So, you know, that's what makes it really tough. And they can't keep this book in stock because the war room posse.
Steve Bannon
Hang on, hang on, hang on, hang on, hang on. I want to, I want to get, I want to get to that in a second. But I want to tell them what the scam is, what we're up against. This is Peter Schweitzer. This is all. These guys are right, you know, not kind of these political books that are kind of typing. I mean, serious books written by conservatives of people on the right. The bookstores won't order them if they. First of all, they'll never put them up front where naturally they should be. So the people see it. What they will do is put them in the stacks maybe. But in a book like Revolution we had people go, not even in the stacks. They see a book like this, they go, no chance. Because the purchasers, like a librarian, someone with purple hair and an earring. Anyway, we're gonna take a short commercial break. We're here to talk about revolution and to talk about our founders. You heard that amazing bit between, between Hamilton and Jefferson. Was that amazing? Tony Lyons here, we're trying to get my taxes. He's on the Road. Tony's got a big announcement about the commemoration of July 4th, the 250th anniversary of our revolution. We're going to take a short commercial break. We're going to be back in a moment in the war room with Tony Lyons from Skyhorse Press.
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Steve Bannon
You know, in the years it takes someone to sit down and research a book and write a book, the 600 pages, the entire story of the revolution, and these other authors, we deal with what people, when I talk to writers, they say, look, I just want the book to be able to find its audience. I want it to be able to find its audience. That's why I'm taking all this time and these years to do it the way that the people that run the culture, because they understand cultures upriver from politics, you know, Andrew Breitbart told us that and he learned it from the Frankfurt school when they tried to indoctrinate him down in Tulane in American studies with, I think Gramsci, the, the brilliant revolutionary in from Italy, Tony Lyons. You see this all the time. That's why, folks, you've got it. You, you understand something very important. If you've gone, heard Eric on the show and heard us promoting the book and gone to a Barnes and Noma said, I don't want to go to Amazon. We're going to Barnes and Noble and they ain't got the book. There's a reason they Ain't got the book. It's not that the book doesn't have an audience out there. There will buy a 600 page book to make sure they understand as much on July 4th. So they really know something about it. They don't want the book out there because they rather have like the, in the top 15 list this week. They got a, the resistance to the, like the American Revolution. They got all these left wing books out there, including Jill Biden's trash, you know, reads like a trashy summer novel up there. Tony Lyons, what are, what's the headwinds that the right goes up against in taking on the culture like this.
Tony Lyons
This, you know, look at, look at Jill Biden's book. I mean this is, this is a person who's writing a book who lied to the American public on national television multiple times about the condition of her husband. She has no story. Nobody wants to read it. But it's piled up in Barnes and Noble stores all around the country in hundreds of privately owned left leaning bookstores. The New York Times writes about it, says it's the book of the year, but nobody's buying it. So they try in every way they can to fix this whole thing to make it so that the bestsellers are all left wing books. But they can't do it because the War Room posse has more power than the crazy left wing media and all their censorship and propaganda can't keep you guys down, can't keep all of us down. Because the American people want real stories like Eric Metaxas book Revolution. This is a real incredible celebration of what's great about this country and that's what people want to read. And this book is selling so fast that we're going back for 100,000 copies more. It's just an incredible read.
Steve Bannon
Hang on, hang on, hang on, hang on. This a block, this a block. This is a blockbuster announcement. You're doing a second printing of 100,000 units.
Tony Lyons
Yes, 100,000 copies. Because you know the American public are buying this book because they're sick of the fake news, the fake science, the fake bestsellers. And they want something that's genuine and something that's real and something that honors this country. And this book does that.
Steve Bannon
Let's bring in Eric. Eric Metaxas, 100,000. 100,000 unit second printing, which I don't think you see much. That's like from the old days, right? Tell me about it. How does that make you feel? And the audience has been blowing me up all night. Since you're on yesterday Saying, I'm going to Barnes and Noble, I'm going on Amazon, it's out of stock, it's sold out everywhere. How do I get this book, sir?
Eric Metaxas
Yeah, well, listen, first of all, I thank God because you know what? You can be talented, you can work hard, and you still are pounding your head against a brick wall. The fact that the book is selling like crazy, that it's number one on every bestseller list except the fake New York Times, you know, I thank God for that, to be really blunt, because it was, it was hard writing this book because I wanted it to be definitive. I said, I don't want to tell a part of the story. I want to tell the whole story of what happened 250 years ago, how we get to Lexington and Concord, who the people were. There's a lot of characters and there's a lot involved. But I thought, you know, if you tell a story entertainingly and correctly, the audience is huge. Americans want to know this stuff without the Marxist garbage, you know, overlay. They want to. They want to know this stuff. So it's a funny thing, Steve, because this book, you know, it's not a MAGA book, it's not a Christian book, but it is maga. It is Christian because truth is truth. When you tell the truth, the leftists, they try to demonize it. They did that with my Bonhoeffer book that sold a million, over a million copies. They went crazy. Because when you tell the truth and it gets out, somehow it gets out because of a show like this, they cannot take it. They despise the truth. So they do what they can to censor, to suppress. And so, as you know, you gotta make it too big to rig. You've just gotta do everything you can. Because I know and you know and Tony knows, if this version of the American story, which is, again, it's not some fluffy thing, I mean, this is a 600 page book. You've read it, it's substantive. But if this gets in the hands of your average American, they're going to have a dramatically different view of America. And that's what the left cannot bear. And it's why the culture wars have been going on. You know, you mentioned Gramsci. They've been doing this, the long march of the institutions for decades and decades. When I was at YALE in the 80s, this was going on big time. I was an English major. Try to read a nice, you know, English novel and study English literature, American literature. They were pushing leftist Marxist critical race theory in the 80s when I was there. Yale was already taken when Buckley was there in the late 40s. He writes his book God and Man at Yale. So they've done the long march to the institutions they cannot bear. When the truth gets out by the grace of God, once in a while, the truth gets out. I think we're in a vibe shift. I think because of what is happening in the country with President Trump and on and on. They're having a meltdown. They really don't know what to do because they've been winning. They thought with Obama that they could see a clean path to the horizon.
Steve Bannon
Tell me about the way in the 19. In the 19. In the 19, you had these histories written early on in the country's history. They were much, much closer to what happened. And that's your book in regards as kind of a throwback. But you had this guy Beard, a historian. I think in the 1920s and 30s, things started to shift. They started to take a negative view of our founders. It was kind of a Marxist influence, but all the way through until really you. And here recently, people are standing up and saying, no, that's not the actual story. We've overlaid the Frankfurt School on American history, and we're here to say, no, that's not going to win. Culture is upriver from politics, and we have to fight in the culture, and we have to fight. Reading and books are the most important part where you can. Theater is important, film's important, television is important, music's important. Art, architecture, all is important. But books are the central fight.
Eric Metaxas
That's my life, Steve. That's my life.
Steve Bannon
Talk to me about that.
Eric Metaxas
Well, no, I mean, when I was at Yale, I was an English major. I was the editor of the humor magazine. When I really got serious about God and Jesus in my 20s, I realized God has called me to the culture because it's the cult. If you want to. If you. It's like if you're a missionary, you look at a culture and you say, well, how do I. How do I communicate to that culture, American culture? I saw this, you know, when I came to Faith and became a conservative, I said, it's been taken over by secular leftists. Everywhere you look, every magazine, you know, the New Yorker, Vanity Fair, they don't say, we are a leftist secular magazine, but of course they are. The New York Times doesn't declare that it's, you know, pro Stalin or anti America. They do it subtly. And this has been going on. And so I really believe God has given me a mission to speak the truth into the culture. So, of course, I'm very interested in politics and theology, but it's the culture. You know, if I was going to do a T shirt, it'd be it's the culture, stupid. It's the culture, stupid. We've got to speak into the culture, and that means we need more books like mine. One book is not going to do it, but we've got to flip the narrative. I talked to you on this program a few years ago about another book I did called Is Atheism Dead? To flip the narrative that science is at odds with faith. What a lie. We've all been peddled that lie all of our lives, that science is at odds with faith, religion is at odds with that complete lie. So I wrote my book Is Atheism Dead? This and another book that I wrote 10 years ago, if youf Can Keep it, is about flipping the narrative on America. What is America really about? If we are honest about it, it is the greatest nation in the history of the world. And how you get America, how you get American liberty, there's no way to get it without the Bible. All of the people who did this, they're coming out of a Reformation theology and they want to bring this across into these communities in the 13 colonies. And then in 1770, you know, the 1760s and 70s, they realized we could do this on a national level. We can create a nation where the entire nation looks directly to God and we can govern ourselves and we can have liberty. We all need to know that's never been done in the history of the world. And it comes from biblical values. You don't need to be a Christian, you don't need to like the Bible, but you need to be honest about history. That's where it comes from. And all of these founders understood that. So my book is not about that, but it's all through the book. And, you know, those are things that, again, the left, they hate that. They just hate the fact that I wrote the book because, you know, I'm pro Trump, I love America. I talk about the Bible and Jesus. You know, we don't want people like that to write 600 page, sort of scholarly books that people will read during the summer because some people will get bad ideas and they will, you know, stop voting the way they're supposed to vote or something like that. So we got to push Jill Biden's ultra fluffy soap opera, whatever that
Steve Bannon
before I leave you. And I didn't get this article to Denver, so I can't put it up. But yesterday there was an article in the Daily Mail and I was actually kind of shocked by it. It's from Berkeley, University of California, which is the head of the University of California system of UCLA and Davis in Santa Barbara. And it's got a historically well known humanities department. It was about professors in the humanities saying we used to give an average of 100 pages a day for our students and undergraduate to read and comprehend. We are now down to 35. The reason is that basic reading comprehension and Berkeley is one of the premier, it's a public ivy, it's one of the premier universities in this country, although left wing. Talk to me about that. I mean, I was shocked to know that at these great universities that from 100 pages down to 35 because they said the kids are overwhelmed and they just get too confused.
Eric Metaxas
Listen, this is called the proof of the decline of Western civilization. Now you know, and I know it doesn't need to keep declining, but if you want proof, if you stick with this and this and this and this, it's going to decline. Here you have a metric, an unbelievable metric. It's pathetic. Listen, I mean, one of the things I learned about in reading, in my research on the revolution, people were amazing as young teenagers. I mean, it was a 13 year old who started the Boston Massacre. That's another story. But like people, if you ask a lot of young people, they're perfectly capable of delivering. But if you infantilize them, if you tell them, you know, you don't need to get married till you're 40 or ever, you don't need to have a family, you can just have a good time. Those lies that the secular left has been pushing, encouraging women not to get married, not to have families. The most wonderful thing that could ever happen to most people, all of that garbage results in the infantilization of young people that they're in their 20s and they're still children. This is just another metric. You know, somebody can write a book about that, but this is the culture that we live in. It has declined dramatically. When you think what young people were doing 100 years ago, 200 years ago, and then you look at these guys sucking their thumbs in, you know, like in safe spaces, it really is just classic. It's proof of what?
Steve Bannon
This is why I want the counter this, I want the audience to buy this. For young people, this book is the perfect. If you want to celebrate the fourth of July, give a present. The present should be revolution. Let them find out the birth of the greatest nation in the history of the world. I love that Subtitle the birth of the greatest nation in the history of the world. Metaxas, you're out on the road. Where do people go to find you that then go to a book signing. They get to meet you. They can find out more about the
Eric Metaxas
book where they go all over the country. Today I'm in Idaho, Idaho Falls, Idaho today. Tomorrow I fly to Southern California. I'm going to be speaking in Southern California. It's all on my website. Next week I'm going to be in Washington state. I'll be in London for the art conference after that. Then I come back, I'm going to be in Houston and on and on and on. I'm all over the country. Ericmetaxis.com, my the website says where I'm going to be and I am delighted to meet people and sign books. It's just a one of the great joys after writing a book to get to meet the these wonderful Americans that love learning and they bring their brilliant 15 year old homeschool kids with them who are going to read the book like it's really it is. I get encouraged about America because of what I see on the road. So it's all@ericmataxis.com and there's a number of ways to buy the book there if you're having trouble because yes, it's been selling so well that a lot of folks are running out of stock. So that's a good problem which we're fixing.
Steve Bannon
We have a high class problem. Tony's going to stick with me. The announcement as Eric Metaxas leaves us in Idaho Falls, Idaho is a 100,000 second printing of Revolution. Eric Metaxas. Thank you. Say hi to the folks in the great state of Idaho. God, we love them. Short commercial break. Tony Lyons on the other side.
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Tony Lyons. You're doing it. You've put an order in for 100,000. Where do people go and get the book today?
Tony Lyons
They should go to Amazon to pre order it, you know, but let's just keep in mind, you know, that these stores, hundreds and hundreds of left wing stores all around the country are not carrying the best selling book in America. So they care more about the narrative, they care more about the culture wars than about their own survival. And they care about control. And they want to control what you do, what you think, what you put into your body, but most importantly what you read because that really shapes your values. So they don't want you to know the story of your own country. They don't want you to know about the courage and endurance and bravery and faith and hard work that made this incredible country. And so I think that, you know, the war room posse should go out and buy this book and prove to this country and prove to the New York Times and prove to these bookstores that they need to change that this country, none of us, we won't stand for it anymore. We don't want their control, we don't want their lies. We want the real thing. We want books. We want media that reflects what the American people actually care about and actually want to read.
Steve Bannon
Tony Lyons extraordinary 100,000 new print order, second edition. This book's going to be a monster, monster hit. We got to drive it to number one, make sure the New York Times can't defeat us. Sir, thank you so much. Where do people go to get the book one more time over at skyhorse.
Tony Lyons
Yes, skyhorsepublishing.com and then, you know, it's going to take a, you know, week and a half to two weeks to get it from Amazon. But you know, pre order it there, get them to buy copies and get every store in the country to start buying copies. Bring the book in, bring the, you know, bring all the bestseller list in. This is number one on Publishers Weekly, Baltimore Sun, USA Today, everywhere, you know, everybody knows Amazon ranked it number one for the week. So these are lies. They're saying that it's not selling. It obviously is selling get these stores to do the right thing, Carry the book, sell the book that celebrates everything that's great about this country.
Steve Bannon
Thank you, sir. Appreciate you.
Tony Lyons
Thank you.
Steve Bannon
Fight to take back the culture. Neal McCabe at the White House. Neil, thank you for sitting out in this boiling sun today. Talk to me wherever in the Iran deal, President Trump sent a true social he ain't happy. I don't think he's getting on a plane to go to Geneva to sign a deal that they won't amidst the deal, sir.
Neal McCabe
Yeah, it'll be very uncomfortable, especially when he sits with his NATO allies. I don't even know what you would say to the, to them. I will tell you about 10 minutes ago the Marine guard came out saying signifying that President Trump is in the Oval just before coming on with you now, like in the last minute that Marine guard went inside. But I'm not really seeing a lot of activity here. And so I did want to make the point that with messaging the, you know, when they were, when they did the bombings earlier this week, you know, you had White House staff telling media, hey, we're just escalating to de escalate. We don't even mean it. We're just trying to get the Iranians to the negotiating table. Meanwhile, the President of the United States is saying I'm going to take Carg Island, I'm going to, I'm going to finish this war. And so I think if the, so you have confusion the Iranians. Yeah, there's confusion on the Iranian side, but I think there's a unity of mission and unity of messaging problem on this side also, sir.
Steve Bannon
Well, I think a little of that's a misdirection play anyway. Neil, you're gonna be back with us at 5. Where's your social media to then? Scott Besant currently scheduled to have the Secretary treasury with us at five o'. Clock. We're going to talk all about this plus other initiatives and McCabe will join us. McCabe social media until then sir,
Neal McCabe
you can find me on all the socials at reporter McCabe, good to be with you, sir.
Steve Bannon
Thank you, sir. By the way, one of the engine room, we got some very sharp people in the engine room that kind of help us with the show and keep us up to date of things going on. They made the brilliant analysis that SpaceX is just the new British East India company. I think I'm gonna go off on that with Scott Bessant. We'll chat about that at five o'. Clock. And Bowling just texted me. They were Going to price this at 169 bucks. I'm not sure is it price shares or indicative price? They're saying now it could be $160. Whoa. That's not whoa. Never know what's going to happen here, folks. Remember, everybody, whether you like it or not, you're in this deal. Mike Lindell, speaking of deals and what deals collide, what do you got for the war and posse? They love you. They want you to be governor. They got your back. You know, they're going to your rallies, they're sending their money, but they want their deals. What do you got for us on a Friday?
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Date: June 12, 2026
Host: Steve Bannon (Real America’s Voice)
Guests: Eric Bolling, Philip Patrick, Tony Lyons, Eric Metaxas, Neal McCabe
This episode covers the historic SpaceX IPO, examining its implications for the U.S. economy, capital markets, and regular Americans. Steve Bannon and guests analyze how this massive public offering reflects broader trends such as the AI revolution, extraordinary financial leverage, and underlying instability in the global financial system. The conversation transitions from stock market dynamics to U.S. national identity, culture wars in publishing, and the current state of negotiations with Iran.
“I believe I’ll be able to buy SpaceX stock under $100 a share before these people get unlocked.” (Eric Bolling, 08:03)
“Your money is now in it. You’re part of the bet… this is a bigger roll of the dice than the iron dice that were rolled to get into the Iran war.” (Steve Bannon, 14:09)
“Central banks… they’re doing what they’ve done for the majority of human history, and that is transitioning away from currency and holding gold as the standard…” (Philip Patrick, 11:56)
“I believe… they let it [AI] become, get to the point where they can communicate with each other and eventually they're going to take over humanity.” (Eric Bolling, 22:55)
“They care more about the narrative… than about their own survival… They want to control what you read because that really shapes your values.” (Tony Lyons, 45:21)
“If this version of the American story… gets in the hands of your average American, they’re going to have a dramatically different view of America. And that's what the left cannot bear.” (Eric Metaxas, 35:24)
“This is called the proof of the decline of Western civilization … it is the infantilization of young people…” (Eric Metaxas, 40:55)
“You have confusion… there’s a unity of mission and unity of messaging problem on this side also...” (Neal McCabe, 48:57)
“SpaceX is just the new British East India company.”
“You don’t see much of that anymore. That’s like from the old days.” (Bannon)
This episode weaves together urgent economic news (SpaceX IPO, U.S. debt, AI speculation), cultural struggles (book publishing, educational decline), and a live geopolitical flashpoint (Iran negotiations). The tone is alarmist yet historically reflective, connecting revolutionary American values to modern risks. Throughout, Bannon and guests urge listeners to become informed participants—both in the economy (knowing their exposure) and in the culture war (by supporting works like “Revolution”).
For more on the ongoing SpaceX IPO, U.S. financial trends, and culture war topics, tune in at 5pm for further updates and analysis with Steve Bannon and guests.