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Stephen K. Bannon
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Sarah (CNN Reporter)
Now, what are you, what did you learn? What can you tell us this morning? Yes, Sarah, we're learning that Iran is working to actively rebuild its production facilities and replenish its weapons inventories after taking on significant damage in those initial U.S. israeli strikes. And look, one example of this that sources said is reflected in the US Intelligence assessments is that Iran is already producing some of its drones and trying to restore its drone attack capability, which was among those degraded in those combat operations that we saw previously play out. And as you mentioned, a US Official telling us that Iran could restore its drone attack capability in a matter of six months, which of course is a very accelerated timeline, especially compared to what the US Intelligence community had initially estimated. And that's true for a variety of weapons components. We're told that while the timelines do vary from weapon component to weapon component, that more broadly, the Iranians are proving that they can rebuild more quickly than anybody really thought. And so this is a little bit different in the messaging. We're hearing from top Pentagon officials, including Admiral Brad Cooper, the CENTCOM commander, who testified just this week that Iran, 90% of Iran's defense industrial base had destroyed. And that has set them back years before they could reconstitute their military capabilities. Take a listen to what Cooper told the House Armed Services Committee on Tuesday.
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Mike Davis
Operation Epic Fury significantly degraded Iran's ballistic missiles and drones while destroying 90% of their defense industrial base, ensuring that Iran can cannot reconstitute for years.
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Sarah (CNN Reporter)
So we're also told that Iran still maintains significant ballistic missile capability and thousands of drones that it could use if combat operations resume. We know Donald Trump is currently weighing whether or not to restart this war as these negotiations play out. But ultimately, the top line here, Sarah, is that Iran remains a threat at the moment with its remaining missile and drone capability. And its ability to reconstitute more quickly than the US Initially anticipated means that it could continue to be a threat for the long term.
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Stephen K. Bannon
Look, CNN is also reporting on some really tense conversations between President Trump and
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Caroline Wren
Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu.
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Stephen K. Bannon
Netanyahu wanting Trump to do more kinetic strikes.
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Caroline Wren
Trump pushing back, and at one point
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Sarah (CNN Reporter)
saying that Netanyahu will do whatever he
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Stephen K. Bannon
wants him to do. What does this divide tell you?
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Unnamed Military or Defense Analyst
That the war objectives of the two countries are close, but not in 100% perfect alignment, which is always the case. Look at World War II and the way in which the United Kingdom, for example, wanted to reconstitute the British Empire. The United States wanted freedom and democracy around the world, yet we stood together and fought against totalitarianism in Germany and Japan at the time. So, yeah, you can be an ally with someone and have pretty, pretty brisk disagreements. I think that's a case of what you're seeing here, Sarah. The Israelis truly and understandably want to destroy and take away the nuclear capability. That makes perfect sense for them as 100% objective. That's very high on the US list also. But at the moment, what President Trump is trying to do is get to a diplomatic solution. Israel will continue to press for more kinetic activity. In the end, I suspect Israel will fall in line with what President Trump desires.
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Stephen K. Bannon
There's a US Aircraft carrier strike group
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Caroline Wren
that's just arrived in the Caribbean as
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Sarah (CNN Reporter)
the tensions are escalating with Cuba.
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Stephen K. Bannon
Do you see this as the potential
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Sarah (CNN Reporter)
of what happens here playing out similar
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Stephen K. Bannon
to the capture of Maduro in Venezuela?
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Unnamed Military or Defense Analyst
I do. And I suspect that is exactly what the administration is hoping. You know, if you put this on a spectrum that kind of runs from Venezuela playbook over to what's happening in Iran, clearly what you would prefer is that Venezuela playbook to do that. You've got to get through those upper levels of the Cuban government the way in which you saw the administration do, by taking Maduro off the chessboard. So I think that the indictment of Raul Castro decades after this quite horrific incident, and I fully support indicting him and bringing him to justice. Raul Castro, having said that, it also plays into using that Venezuela playbook and boy, the potential of Cuba. If you can pull a Venezuela there, change the top level and get investment going. It's, it's Venezuela plus Cuban American diaspora. Smart, well educated, ready to go. Could be, could be a win for the administration. They want to avoid military action here. I think they will.
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Stephen K. Bannon
It is Thursday, the 21st of May. Your Lord 2026. Welcome to the war. We're going to go to Arlington. National Assembly, Mike Davis, Caroline Renner on deck. Talk about everything that's going on in politics and also some geopolitics down in the Caribbean. Let me go to Neil McCabe who's at Arlington National Cemetery. Neil, talk to me about what happens today at the cemetery. Yeah, today, Steve, is one of those really solemn events and for soldiers, it's really almost personal because you're going to have the soldiers of the old guard, the 3rd Infantry Regiment that run Fort Myer and Arlington, they are going to be planting flags on 250,000 graves. They've already started. The flags arrived this morning at 5am and they're doing it right now. And so, you know, obviously there's going to be a parade and there's going to be the president will be here Monday. But for the army and for Arlington National Cemetery, this is really the kickoff of Memorial Day. Steve. Neil, this is going to be an all day evolution into the evening. You're going to be there. We're going to come back to you. So just stick around. This kicks off our coverage all weekend, as you guys know, for our honored dead. This is and I want to make sure, because people, particularly people who haven't served or civilians, you know, want to thank our veterans. This is not Veterans Day. This is not Veterans Weekend. This is about the honored dead that gave their lives in defense of their country. Please keep that in mind. This is not so no need to thank a veteran, although maybe you thank veterans every day. Veterans don't need to be thanks, but appreciate you guys doing it. Let's focus on what is important. This is on the honored dead that is that have died in the defense of this republic. Neil McCabe, stick around. We're going to come right back to you. Mike Davis, there's so much going on. I want to start with you're very close to the U.S. attorney in South Florida. They're organizing so much down there. Talk to me about the and they've got special prosecutors, they got other elements to bring in Joe diGenova and others to really have a. The first time I think we've really had an organized effort to go after so many things. Talk to me about this indictment of Castro. Why is this a game changer? Is this a reach for us? Are we trying to do this just so we can get set up? Another Maduro situation? Or is there something here? Was it Weren't the murders 30 years ago, or do you understand fully how we're going about this?
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Mike Davis
Jason Redding yonis is the U.S. attorney for the Southern District of Florida. He has an outstanding team helping him. Yara Cluckes is his first assistant U.S. attorney. These are two Cuban Americans whose families escaped Cuba. Cuba. The Cuban regime. The Castro regime. Raul Castro, according to this indictment, murdered American citizens. He shot down planes over international waters and he's finally going to be held accountable for murdering American citizens. You can't murder American citizens and get away with it. If you allow people to murder American citizens and get away with it, even 30 years later, it's going to, it's going to cause more murders of American citizens. So this is a powerful message from President Trump and his Justice Department, led by Todd Blanch, by President Trump's Secretary of State, Marco Rubio, that if you come after Americans, we're going to come after you. So I say cheers to Todd and Jason and Yara and the team down in the Southern District of Florida for pursuing this. Jason also has Joe digenova and his wife Victoria and a whole team building up in the Fort Pierce office. You see that from a public post on X. So I can talk about what's public, what's, what's on, what's on X, what's in public news reporting. According to news reporting, they are moving forward with a, an investigation of a grand conspiracy against President Trump, his top aides and his allies, where they politicized and weaponized law enforcement and intel agencies to, to take out a political opponent, Donald Trump, and help a presidential campaign, Hillary Clinton. And this is an ongoing criminal conspiracy. We've talking about this on your show, Steve. For almost four years, since the Mar A Lago raid, we have very publicly called for this very investigation in Fort Pierce, Florida. It looks like they're even starting to go after the federal prosecutors. There was a federal prosecutor and who used to be the managing assistant U.S. attorney for the Fort Pierce, Florida U.S. attorney's office, who just got indicted on four separate charges for trying to steal volume two of Jack Smith's report. The District Court Judge Cannon sealed that and said that that cannot be released because those charges were not brought in. This managing assistant U.S. attorney, according to this indictment, tried to change the name of that volume two to a cake recipe and then email it to herself in February 2025, according to the indictment, in what was she trying to do with this thing? Why was she trying to get this out the door? It seems like she was trying to violate Judge Cannon's court order so she can embarrass President Trump with unsubstantiated one sided evidence that would have been in this volume two. Not subject to cross examination, not subject to rebuttal evidence. So she is facing prosecution. They brought in prosecutors from a different office, from the Northern District of Florida because of a potential conflict with the Southern District of Florida prosecutors prosecuting one of their former colleagues. But I think this is a pretty good sign that the Southern District of Florida is off to the races between this Raul Castro indictments that seems to be rallying all the troops down there and then they're moving in on this managing assistant U.S. attorney. You're seeing news reports of subpoenas going out of Miami and Fort Pierce. You're seeing news reports that you could start seeing witnesses, Lawfare Democrats coming into Fort Pierce to explain their role in the greatest scandal in American history. Using law enforcement and intel agencies to take out a presidential candidate and to help another presidential candidate. And when they failed to continue to weaponize law enforcement and intel agencies to take out a sitting president to subvert the will of American people and then to try to take out a former president when he was going to expose Crossfire Hurricane. So buckle up. It's going to be a wild ride for the next many months.
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Stephen K. Bannon
I don't think that the latter is getting the coverage it needs, particularly in the conservative media, because this is, I have said for years, there is so much corruption inside of DOJ that's never brought to light and never prosecuted. Just give me hit that one more time. This was a, I guess an administrator or managing U.S. attorney, I guess on the administrative side. What exactly did she do? Because I think this, this thing is much bigger than it's coming across. Am I wrong on that?
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Mike Davis
No, you're not. So according to the indictments, this managing assistant U.S. attorney for the Fort Pierce U.S. attorney's office took a sealed court document that the Southern District of Florida U.S. district Court sealed in the, in the Jack Smith case, Volume two, that contains one sided evidence from the Mar A Lago raid, the hit on President Trump by Biden to get back crossed by a hurricane that was part of this grand conspiracy. This managing assistant U.S. attorney, while she did not work directly for Jack Smith, she provided administrative support to Jack Smith's team and Fort Pierce. They were, they were colleagues, they were buddies, they were allies. She violated this court order and her intent is crystal clear. According to this indictment, she didn't just take the documents, Volume two of Jack's misreport, and email it to herself. She changed the names of the files to cake recipes and then emailed it to herself. That shows her criminal intent, if you believe this indictment, because it shows she's trying to hide what she's doing. She knows that she's not supposed to take this Volume two. She knows it's going to violate a court order and she does it anyway. And the intent is obvious that she was going to leak this Volume two to the world.
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Stephen K. Bannon
Wow. Hang on for one second, Mike. I just have a couple of questions about the Senate. The kind of TF Caroline Wren's also going to join us. Senator Tommy Tuberville, Senator Sam Former Senator Sam Brownback. We're going to cover the Artificial Intelligence EO today at the White House. All of it. Mike Davis, the Viceroy is in the House.
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Stephen K. Bannon
There's gonna be an executive order signed this afternoon on Earth. Artificial Intelligence. Joe Allen is going to be here momentarily. We're to break that down. Also, there's going to be a signing of executive order with EPA as soon as the press is supposed to be open press now, as soon as the president starts taking questions, we will cut to that. I believe in the Oval Office. A lot to get to. Mike Davis, I know you got a bounce. I want to thank you for framing this about what's happening against particularly on this grand conspiracy against the president that's now being worked on down at Fort Pierce with Jason and his team. And you're 100% correct when you called it last year when he was selected. All you're seeing down there is action. I think it's great. Last thing, Mike. We've got this issue now with President Trump in the Senate. You have a very active program over there of blocking. I mean, they're treating President Trump as a lame duck. You know, no recess appointments. There's no Save America Act. You know, Thune says I'm not going to do the ballroom, I'm not going to do the weaponization. I can just give the Senate a heads up. This is not going to end well. Okay. President Trump's President of these United States and he wants his agenda executed upon and you have these radical Democrats. The first thing they're going to do, and I realize there's custom and tradition dealing with the filibuster, but we already know these guys have said they're going to pack the court, they're going to make D.C. a state, they're going to make Puerto Rico a state. They're going to do so many things to basically change the structure political structure of the country. Mike Davis, what therefore should we do? Sir,
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Mike Davis
I was looking at some posts by James Blair, who's President Trump's top political lieutenant. I think James said that President Trump went like 210 on these primary challenges of these Republicans who did not want to get on the Trump train. So it's a pretty compelling records so far. John Cornyn may also get run over by the Trump train. So I would say to these senators and I used to work in the Senate on the Senate Judiciary Committee. So I saw but not exactly Profiles of Courage when I was there then and nothing's changed. I would say to them that the Save act for, for example has 80 Save America act has 80% of support of Americans people to show that they're American citizens and to show an when they vote. They also that also has support of a super majority of Democrats, including a super majority of black Americans. These black Americans who Democrats pretend do not have the wherewithal to get an ID like all the rest of us when they're the Democrats, real intent is they want illegal aliens to vote. So they're going to blame black people that they, they can't get their hack together to get an id. That's how racist the Democrats are. If the Senate cannot pass legislation with 80% support of Americans, including a super majority of Democrats and a super majority of minorities, what the hell are they doing? What is John Thune doing as the Senate Majority Leader? I get that herding cats is a very difficult task. I helped do that during the Capitol confirmation. It was the hardest task imaginable. But we got the job done. I, I think that the Senate needs to get the job done. They need to stay in session. We have an August recess coming up. That high Holy month.
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Stephen K. Bannon
They're not. Okay, I got that. And if Grassley, you work for Grassley. I got it, I got it. But that's not going. Let's. We got to cut to the chase. That's not going to happen. Thune is supposed to be a leader. He's. He's worse than Mitch McConnell because he puts a nicer face on him. I understand. They don't have 60 votes. I get it. They don't have 51 votes. And maybe now with Cassidy and these others, you get a bigger problem. However, there are 27 votes out there. Are we actually going to make any progress at all until we remove John Thune as leader? Mike Davis.
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Mike Davis
This is a big task for John Thune if he cannot get the Save America act onto President Trump's desk for signature.
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Stephen K. Bannon
Mike, he just told Mike, he told President Trump. Why do you think President Trump did the impromptu ballroom one hour presentation of which we're the only people to cover all of it? He just. Because Thune that day said no weaponization, no ballroom. And he said specifically no Save America act attached to any must pass piece of legislation like fisa. Hasn't Thune already given us an answer to that? Look, we're the only network and channel that covered the whole performative. And God bless Mike Lee and Senator Schmidt of Missouri and these guys that every night. Tuberville, Tuberville is going to be on here in a while. That coach that every night you remember, you watch it, you would come on and give commentary every night from like seven to midnight, they'd be there trying to do the Save America and trying to get to a filibuster. It was all performative. John Thune never had. They sent him on two weeks vacation after that. We're burning daylight and I tell people right now the reason we're so on this, because of the act, you know, the work of Degree Grass and Wren and Davis and Sean Spicer and the grassroots out there, we now have a fighting chance on the House. I think we hold serve in the House and we get our act together because I think we're within ability to hold it and maybe even still have a seat or two over it. The Senate I think is gone. Ossef's going to win in Georgia. Whatley's going to get beaten in North Carolina. Collins is going to get beaten. There's another poll. Collins going to get beaten in May. Husted is going to get beaten in Ohio. Right. We're going to lose the Senate. We're going to lose it big. Unless the grassroots know and get fired up that there's a purpose for doing this. The only way we can do that is get save America. And John Thune, hasn't he shown you Mike enough that he has no interest in doing this?
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Mike Davis
Just look, I would just say this to John Thune, the Senate Majority Leader. Just let the Democrats debate. Let the debate run out and hold a vote. You say you don't have the votes among Senate Republicans. I guarantee you that the Article 3 project teaming up with the War Room Posse can deliver the votes for Republicans. They also said that there was going to be 60 plus votes for Ketanji Brown, Jackson for the Supreme Court. She was going to be a big political win for Joe Biden and the Democrats. We changed that with the Article 3 project of the War Room Pasta. They barely voted for her. The Democrats barely voted for her and then ran out in the middle of the night. The same thing with several other bills like the Kavanaugh confirmation. They remember this with the Kavanaugh confirmation, when the base got fired up, that when, when the Democrats won the House of Representatives, the Senate, Senate Republicans we knocked out. They were Democratic.
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Stephen K. Bannon
You know this and you know this. I was in. I was in. I was in Italy working and working with Bill Burke and you were the lead guy. They were within three minutes of punting on Kavanaugh, were they not, sir? Three minutes. And that's an issue because it was so tough because Democrats were fired up because the Republican Senate are a bunch of wusses. They almost punted on Kavanaugh. They came within three minutes and hey, you wouldn't have gotten even people who think Kavanaugh's not perfect. The backup you would have gotten would have been a lot, lot, lot worse. They wanted to cave, did they not? The Senate McConnell and these guys wanted to cave, did they not? Mike Davis, this McConnell.
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Mike Davis
I will defend McConnell on this. I was in the room. McConnell and Grassley were rock solids and everyone else, I not so much. But I would say this, if we would have lost that Kavanaugh confirmation that was six weeks before the midterm election in 2018, we would have lost the midterm election. We would have lost the Senate. Trump loses reelection, we lose the court, we lose the country. That was how big it was. Kavanaugh was too big to fail. I would say this to Senate Republicans. Motivate your bas going to be a base turnout election. The Democrats fired up. Give Republicans a reason to come out and vote for you. And the Save America act is that reason.
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Stephen K. Bannon
Yeah. Mike Davis, Article 3. Thank you for staying so long. Thank you. Making this Raul Castro thing make sense. Where do people go to get your your social media is on fire. And, and the website is not too shabby either. Where do people go?
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Mike Davis
Article3project.org Article number three projects donate. Follow us on social media. But again, the war room posse superpowers. Action, action, action. Light up the Senate on the Save America Act.
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Stephen K. Bannon
Thank you, brother. Appreciate you.
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Mike Davis
Thank you.
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Stephen K. Bannon
We may be changing that slightly about a leadership fight, but hey, we'll get to that, Caroline. So I'm gonna hold you through the break and I know you got a rush, you got a big speech, a talk. You've given over in Capitol hill with the CPAC folks. Let's deal South Carolina first. You've done such a magnificent and Governor McMasters and the people in the House have stepped up here. Big league. Where do we stand with this going 7.0in in the Gamecock State, ma'. Am.
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Caroline Wren
Yes. Governor McMaster has been great. And then the lieutenant governor, Pamela Evan, I think, has been the real star in pushing this through. So the redistricting bill passed the Senate Judiciary Committee last night, and now it heads to the Senate floor. And to pass it in time, the Senate must expedite the process and work around the filibuster. I'm hearing there's going to be, it's going to be a war on the floor today. The deadline when early voting begins is this Tuesday, May 26th. They have to get this done by Monday because the read the bill does two things. It passes a new congressional map, but it also moves the primaries for the new congressional seats to August. And so that's why there's a hard stop on Tuesday, May 26th to get this done. And so I, I am still hopeful, but there's me a lot of like maneuvering today. I'm going to be watching this very closely. They're going to fire by today, by tomorrow. They can hope, you know, they can stay through the weekend and then we've got to get this done and on the governor's desk by Monday.
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Stephen K. Bannon
And where do people for this specifically I want to put up your Twitter because you're bomber command. You're sending out instructions all day long. But where specifically for this South Carolina situation should they focus on?
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Caroline Wren
Well, I think calling, calling your different. If you live in the state calling or emailing your senators, you should do that. And I just put up an X post of all the emails and phone numbers of every South Carolina senator and so continue to really be pushing them and saying we have got to get this done because it's so important. We need to pick up this other seat.
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Stephen K. Bannon
Okay. If you can hang on one second. I got to talk to you about this thing situation because I know you're at the tip of the spirit of this. Also Senator Tommy Tuberville, the coach is going to be here and former Senator Sam Brownback is also going to join us. So we're packed this morning. Next hour afterwards, artificial intelligence. I'm going to talk a little bit about capital markets. There's a piece in the Wall Street Journal. I don't know if I'm prepared to get it up right now. I don't think we prepped it. But Rupert Murdoch, really a really good writer. Greg Epp has a piece out about the debt. As I've told you, we're getting ready for the world's largest margin call. $300 trillion of debt globally, 40 trillion face them. For the US government, that's only part. The contingent I think goes to 100 or 200 trillion depending on how you calculate it. They're blaming Murdoch and the neoliberals over at Fox News and the Wall Street Journal. Guess what? They're blaming. I can't kid you not. They're blaming populism. Birchgold.com take your phone at Text Ban and B A N N Owen at 989-898. The ultimate guide for investing in gold and precious metals in the age of Trump. Immerse yourself at information. This weekend we're going to get you
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Stephen K. Bannon
Caroline, first off, you're obviously you're leaving. You've got to go to the CPAC Women's Leadership Conference. Give me a second on that. On the, on the women. What are the big, you've been with these people for a couple of days. What are, what's the big issue? Because we have a signing of an executive order at 3:30 this afternoon that as you know, the war room has fought. You know, the first amnesty for AI, the second amnesty for AI, we won. They came out with another eo, they sent the framework out, we defeated that. We're going to keep defeating them until they get it right. And they're giving the president bad information. Bad information, particularly where folks in the United States stand and specifically the MAGA movement and conservatives. Your thoughts?
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Caroline Wren
I had dinner last night with about 30 women from across the country and they're all leaders in different industries and we were with some different organizations and White House officials and they asked them to go around and talk about what are the they hearing on the ground as far as the biggest concerns, not only for other women, but just coming up to this midterms, one by one, each person said data centers and AI and this is what you've been talking about, Steve I've been talking about it a lot too. They feel like this is being shoved down their throats. There was a number of different concerns. People who, someone who is from North Dakota was talking about water rights and water access and what these data centers are going to use with their water. You had people, farmers and ranchers talking about imminent domain issues and that they're just coming in and seizing their land, running, you know, power, putting power Grids and power lines through it. And, and they're not going to produce any value for their communities. This is, I think, going to be a huge issue for the midterms and then a defining issue in 2028. People want to be leveled with. We understand that data centers and, and AI is coming, but you have to talk people through it and talk about what the changes are. You know, one person brought up, Samantha.
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Stephen K. Bannon
Hang on, hang on. When you say it's coming. When I say it's coming, it's how you can't trust these tech bro. Oligarchs are the. Let me be, let me say it again. The worst people on earth. The worst people on earth. So you can't trust them on anything. Continue on, Caroline.
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Caroline Wren
But people, their lives are going to have to change and they're going to have to shift and we should talk to them about it. For example, someone talked about how their daughter just graduated from College and is $20,000 in debt and she got an education degree. And so when she saw Melania do the event with a robot teacher, she was terrified of that because she's sitting there thinking, oh, my God, I'm not going to have a job. And frankly, she might be right. Maybe that is where we are all moving. But that means we've got to start to talk to people about different industries that they need to be looking at. That's why young people, you heard them with these graduation ceremonies. If someone mentioned AI, they were booed on stages. And if we're going to be really. 30% of lawyers don't tell people don't
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Stephen K. Bannon
go to law school.
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Caroline Wren
But technology and infrastructure are gonna be booming.
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Stephen K. Bannon
We played a mashup yesterday for 5 minutes of guys getting booed off the stage. Okay, John Thune, we're gonna get on. We're on top of that. Joe Allen's gonna be in the second hour. We're also gonna have the Daily Signal polling that shows, oh, I don't know, 90% of Maga and conservatives and the American people hate this. Caroline Wren, John Thune. What are we then to do, ma'? Am? Because we're just kidding ourselves. We're burning daylight. We're going to lose the Senate. Okay. Ossav's going to win in Georgia. Whatley's going to get crushed in North Carolina. Sherrod Brown's going to be in the center. From Ohio. We're going to lose. Kansas is in play. Alaska's in play. Maine, we're going to lose Maine. The reason is the grassroots are not fired up. At all because the Senate hasn't done anything and now they're treating President Trump like a lame duck. He ain't a lame duck. Caroline Wren.
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Caroline Wren
I like John Thune. I think he's a nice guy. I was rooting for him. But it is clear now that his, you know, he has lost control of his own caucus and then his relationship with President Trump is greatly strained. And so I think it is time that we have to make a change. And so I was thinking about this all night and what I think we need to do is I think that they need to make J.D. vance the Senate Majority Leader. John Adams served as the Senate Majority Leader in while he was the Vice president for George Washington. There is president here. The Constitution designates the Vice president as the president of the Senate, making the VP the highest ranking constitutional officer in that chamber. I think it is time we send in JD Vance and really tell him we need you to focus on corralling your former colleagues and use the constitutional powers that were given to you. And J.D. vance, I would love to see play a larger role in helping us get through President Trump's agenda in this Senate.
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Stephen K. Bannon
Where do people go on this topic? I want to go to your Twitter account because we're getting fired up on this thing today. We don't have 60 votes. The leaders told us we ain't got 60. He said we don't even have 51. I think we got 27 and 27 is the number you need to remove him. So where do people go to follow this Caroline Wren?
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Caroline Wren
That is true, but the Senate Majority Leader sets the rules and the filibuster is ultimately a rules question. So I think J.D. vance and the White House should look at have the power for the Constitution to override Thune and change the rules and nuke the filibuster and bring that to a vote and force these senators to actually be on record as to I want to know which senators are opposed to this. They won't tell us that. That's why they won't bring it to a vote. J.D. vance may have the constitutional power to bring that to the floor, but you can follow me at Caroline Wren on X Truth Social and get her.
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Stephen K. Bannon
Thank you, ma'.
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Mike Davis
Am.
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Stephen K. Bannon
Have a good. We'll find out if they're live streaming CPAC. We're going to pick it up at 11 or 11 o', clock, 11:30. When we get there, come back to us. We're, we want to stream all of that. Women in leadership. 300 people. It's already packed the CPAC team, Senator Tommy Tuberville. Now I fully understand, sir, why you are. I couldn't understand with my good friend Ken Paxton why he'd want to leave the AG in Texas and go to the Senate. But then you're leaving the Senate to go run for governor of the great state of Alabama. Why is the Senate treating, why is Senate leadership treating President Trump as a lame doctor, sir?
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Senator Tommy Tuberville
Thank you, Steve. It's good to be here. I love Caroline. She, she, her and I've been friends for a while. She's right on target. The problem is you got to be inside the Senate to see what's going on. We have a huge divide in the Republicans and not, I'm not talking about just between Republican, Democrat. I'm talking about Republican side. It's going to be hard to get anything done for President Trump other than maybe a few nominations between now and the end of this term. After the election, we may get the NDAA done. That's going to be hard to do. But we, President Trump just set the, he set the scale. He said, listen, well, hang on, hang on, hang on.
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Stephen K. Bannon
Whoa, whoa, whoa. NDAA is must pass. I have a big problem with spending as a veteran, $1.5 trillion on defense. But the NDAA, when you say it's hard, isn't that a must pass piece of legislation, sir?
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Senator Tommy Tuberville
Damn, Steve. I've been up here, this is my sixth year, and we, we've always gotten it passed in the, in the middle of the night in December when we should, we'll have Mark up here in a couple of weeks. We could do it within a couple of months, but there's no appetite for it, and you have to beg people to vote for it. It's just absolutely amazing. I'm not talking about just Democrats. I'm talking about Republicans. And so it's, it's, you know, it all starts with leadership, you know, and, you know, Jonathan's a nice guy, but sooner or later, you got to make either changes. You got to see how the ball's rolling here. Parliamentarian should have been gone a long time ago. That was a decision he made. It's going back. It's backfiring on him. Now we've got President Trump, that's the leader of our party, and he said, bill Cassidy's out. He voted against me. If he didn't know that was coming. You know, we've been in, you've been in another world. John Cornyn has made some votes that President Trump didn't like. He came out for Paxton now we got a huge divide. We got four or five people in the Republican Party saying that, hey, he's going after members. Hey, this is, this is a team sport here where our President Trump is the head coach. Let's get on board with him. But you have so many personal priorities here. I'm talking about people that take things personally for President Trump. I mean, it has gotten to their brain and they just refuse to do anything that's going to help him. And it's a shame because the American people have a great opportunity here, but that opportunity is going by the wayside because of their personal agenda.
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Stephen K. Bannon
President Trump has said over and over again the Save America act is his number one priority as you see it right now. Will that get attached to ndaa? Did that get attached to fisa? Is there a must pass piece of legislation that you attach that to? Because it seems like Thune is saying it's not, that's not an option either.
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Senator Tommy Tuberville
Yeah, the Save American act is probably the most important thing for Republicans and Democrats and all citizens across the country because if you don't have fair elections, then you're not going to have a government that's going to represent each and every one of us within the law. But Steve is not going to pass. I mean, we got no chance, you know, no chance to put it on the floor to get past. There's no chance to bust the filibuster. First of all, we could never bust it because we might could get 43, 44 votes in the Republican side and you need 51 to bust it. I mean, the Dems came close at 49 because, or whatever it was Mansion and Sonoma said, no, we don't think that's right time to do it. But you know, it's just, we're, we're dead up here. We're dead in the water. We can't get anything done. You know, government's not working. We can't fund dhs.
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Stephen K. Bannon
But let's get back to then that's. Look, you're one of the most revered coaches in the history of college football. You know about leadership and the leadership of men better than anybody. I mean, he's leader, understand it's hard. That's why he's the leader. Somehow you've got to go in and figure out, make it work. If you don't make it work, don't you have to change, don't you have to change the leadership? I mean, we're at a point, we've given him enough chance, we've supported him Say, let's get this done. But if you're sitting there telling me in May of 2026 with this massive midterm election coming up with The Senate where 53 vote, Senate's in play and you can go around and look at the numbers, look in Maine, look at North Carolina, look at listen is Assad Ossoff wins in Georgia and that mess down there with Kemp and that crowd, Ossoff's going to be, he's going to replace Newsom as the number one guy in their presidential sweepstakes in 28, a liberal progressive winning a southern state like Georgia. So this is an emergency. In an emergency, don't you start making changes. Coach.
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Senator Tommy Tuberville
Yeah, yeah, you got to change the game plan. It's got to be changed. I'm anxious. We have a big meeting this morning at 11 o', clock, all the senators on the GOP and you know, we can change if you're the leader. Okay, it's fine. Being said, hey, I'm the leader, but sooner or later you got to lead. I mean that goes along with the job. And so we are not getting anything done. What can we do? Trent Lott, a few years ago when he was a leader, you know what he did during reconciliation? He fired the parliamentarian. You're out, we're bringing somebody else in. You got to put your best foot forward. Now we got people that are saying, well, I might vote for a couple amendments of the Democrats during this. Well, you can't do that because it go back to the House again. They said we're not going to accept any amendments. And so what do you do? Here's what you to me, what you do. And again, you got to play hardball. We've got several people that it's not going to vote for filibuster or they'll probably vote for some of the Democrat amendments. You say, listen, you do that, you're out as chairman of a committee. You're out immediately out. We're going to put somebody else in because that's the reason people stay here, is to have power. But we do it because of seniority. We don't do it because of merit. We don't have the best people in some of these chairmanships. So we've got to do the right thing. It starts at leadership. We're going to go in, I'm going to listen to it. And if we don't make changes, we go and try to beg people to do things, it doesn't work. Put your feet to the fire. Let's go to work and let's work with President Trump.
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Stephen K. Bannon
Senator Tuberville, what's your social media? Where do people follow this? This 11:00, clock me, I think somebody a little heated. We'll let you go get ready for it.
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Senator Tommy Tuberville
Yeah, coach for gov. I won the primary, Steve, the other day, you probably saw that. But I'm, I'm looking forward to it. I'm not running against a Democrat. I'm running against a communist. My God, people in Alabama ain't going to vote for people that have that love, open borders and all that nonsense.
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Stephen K. Bannon
Love you, sir. Good luck. We'll talk to you after the 11 o'. Clock. Senator Tommy Tuberville won the primary running for governor. You should go out. Okay. We didn't, we didn't hit break. Okay.
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Mike Davis
Everything's just beginning but the games you
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Stephen K. Bannon
want to play Bring it on and I will fight to the end Just
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Mike Davis
watch and see it's all started everything's
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Stephen K. Bannon
begun and you are on over cuz we're taking down the CCP Spread the word all through Hong Kong we will fight till they're all gone we rejoice when there's no more let's take down
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Mike Davis
the CCP war room here's your host, Stephen K. Ban.
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Stephen K. Bannon
Okay, I want to welcome Senator, former Senator Sam Brownback, one of the great moral leaders in the United States Senate from Kansas, has dedicated his life now to the persecution of people of faith, specifically Christians. And in that not taking on the marginal work going right to the heart of it, the Chinese Communist Party and what the Chinese Communist Party is doing against people of faith in China. Senator, I think aren't there 100 million Christians, most of them underground, either evangelical or traditional Catholics in China, sir.
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Senator Sam Brownback
Nobody knows the actual number, but that's the one most people cite to. And it's been one of the fastest growing Christian populations on the planet the last decade. So this is a big issue for the Chinese Communist Party because Christianity doesn't believe that the Communist Party is the highest moral authority, highest authority, period. And they're often willing to stand against them like you're seeing Pastor Ezra Jin or the nine Catholic bishops that are currently in jail in China.
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Stephen K. Bannon
Well, the Catholic bishop I'll get to in a minute because that's the problem we got with the I'm a Catholic, but the Catholic Church's parallel's deal secret deal with the Chinese Communist Party. Last week President Trump goes, he's trying to be magnanimous. He's trying to work out something to balance the global economy. Of course, we pride ourselves in the war room of being the leaders in this anti CCP movement. And our point the whole time is all they're going to do is lie to you in misdirection. Just give people, because we had our book Kill to Order about organ harvesting, what they're doing there. Talk to us about the specifics of the Chinese Communist Party's persecution of Christians, their war on people of faith.
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Senator Sam Brownback
I did the foreword for that book on Kill to Order. This is a horrific issue where you harvest people for their organs. What they're doing to Christians right now is they're locking up more of the pastors now than they have arguably since any time since Mao. Really. Xi Jinping is a reincarnation of Mao, if I can use that terminology. And they're just going really at them. We feature in chapter one in the book Peter Xu, who was a guy who was arrested five times. They hung him in a cross formation in his jail cell until he nearly killed him and took him down to signed his confession that Jesus was a hoax, God wasn't real. And he just looks at the warden and says, thanks for allowing me to participate in the sufferings of Christ. That's the character and the nature of these committed Christians that are in China who believe that their calling is actually to carry the gospel on through China and finish the circumnavigation back to Jerusalem. They're a phenomenal group and that threatens the ccp. And that's why they're arresting them and that's why we really ought to stand with them, bring them into the White House, recognize them, give them a platform to talk about what's taking place in China and to push back against this CCP and the surveillance state that they are putting in place in China and in a whole lot of other countries around the world.
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Stephen K. Bannon
Senator, you're looked at as one of the leaders of this. So when we look at it, you've got the lords of Easy Money on Wall street, you got the venture capital guys out on the west coast, you got the oligarchs in Silicon Valley, you got corporate America that you know better than anybody. The CEOs of the globalist corporations sold us out with all that pressure on President Trump. And you saw when he was over there trying to balance and trying to work out some sort of deal to make sure that they're inextricably linked, that the Chinese Communist Party or China is inextricably linked to the global economy in ways that they're not destroying American workers in the American economy. Manufacturing. How then? Because I keep saying, I said, look, this group is worse than the Nazis. When you look at the 450 million forced abortions, if you look at the 250 million people they've killed, Dao Baijing or the Chinese, how are we supposed to accommodate? How are we supposed to deal with people? And if you read your book on the war against the faith, it's just chapter after chapter after after chapter. And you know how murderous they are. You said right there that Xi is like Mao. Mao is one of the great monsters in world history and certainly the 20th century. How are we then supposed to deal with them?
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Senator Sam Brownback
First off, we got to start confronting them. And we've got to realize that whether we think we're at war with them or not, they are at war with us and they want to take us out. And the Chinese Communist Party has killed more of its own people than any regime in the history of mankind. That's just its own people that they've killed. So that's who you're dealing with. And they aren't to be trusted. On Hong Kong, they dealt with the British, said, we'll give up two systems, one country for 50 years. On Hong Kong, that lasted 23 years, and it was gone. And they're taking over Hong Kong. This is who we're dealing with. What I argue is that we're going to have to break these economies apart. We need to go back into a cold, cold war status like we were with the Soviet Union. It'll be important to us. We're going to have to build our own streams of flow for the rare earth minerals. That's going to take some time. And I think that's really what President Trump is positioning for right now. He's the first president to take on China since Kennedy. So, I mean, he really. But he's got a tactical point first.
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Stephen K. Bannon
Hang on. I'm feeling better already. My morning is getting better. Are you saying. Am I hearing this right? Sam Brownback, a revered member of the US Senate and from the heartland of this country, you're saying, hey, look, we can put all the happy talk we want on this, but you have to come to a point where you decouple these. Because the Chinese are trying to decouple. They say this all the time. They're going to use us for what they use and then decouple. Are you arguing that we have to get to a point where we decouple? It's not more accommodation. It's actually decoupled the economy.
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Senator Sam Brownback
Absolutely. Absolutely. We never put the two economies together with the Soviet Union, I mean we exported agricultural commodities, we exported a few things to them, we bought a few things from them. Not much. These economies weren't integrated. You've got these two economies integrated and the more you break them apart, the more investment you're going to have in the United States. And you can get our supply chains on these key issues like medicines like these rare earth minerals like computer chips and the materials there, you've got to start getting those in safer places. For us to have this long term confrontation with the CCP that we are in, at least they're in it, whether we realize we're in it or not.
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Stephen K. Bannon
Senator, can you hang on a second? I just want to hold you through the top of the hour break. I want to come back because I want to make sure people get your book and get to all your social media. This is, I think this is great advice and I think it's advice we need to broaden the circle of people talking to the president about this issue. President Donald Trump is the first president to ever directly confront the Chinese Communist Party. Kennedy intrude a little bit? Remember we did the come Communists in the State Department tossed China in 1949 to the Communists, to the small. What they said were agrarian reformers. Total lie. General Marshall, the revered General Marshall. Big problem. McCarthy nailed it in retreat from victory. Wrote a book about it after a six hour or seven hour speech on the floor of the United States Senate. Joe MacArthur, short break. We're packed in the next hour. Senator Brownback's going to tee it up.