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This is the primal scream of a dying regime. Pray for our enemies because we're going medieval on these people. I got a free shot. All these networks lying about the people. The people have had a belly full of it. I know you don't like hearing that. I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. It's going to happen.
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And where do people like that go to share the big lie? MAGA Media I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
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Ask yourself, what is my task and
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If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved. War Room here's your host, Stephen k. Band.
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Monday 27th July, year of a Lord 2026. Jack Bosobic's with us. We're going to Oxford in a moment with Eric Metaxas. We're going to cover the COVID the globe this morning. I want to thank our sponsors, particularly Patriot Mobile down there in Texas, Glenn and Jenny Story, two of the great Patriots, a Christian based company that supports your Christian values called 972 Patriot. You get a customer service person. I'm going to walk you through why it's the best phone service in the world and why you should switch and how you can switch, how you save money. But if you want to break out in a prayer session, go for it. You're going to get somebody with the East Texas accent. That's all in. So 972 Patriot, do it today. Talk to these folks about why it's the best phone service in the world. And man, they've got your back. The, the efforts they have done down there, I think it's $3 million to support whether it's first responders, second amendment, all of it groups that you want supported. So check it out Today, Patriot Mobile, 972 Patriot also Tax Network USA, Scott Besson's wrestling with he kind of oversees the IRS. We had the director of the IRS on the other day. He's up front. They got to collect every penny they think they're owed. There's the rub. Go to Tax Network USA, get a special hotline for you. 866-513-5516. If you think there's a difference of opinion, right? Let the Tax Network USA people work you through and come up with the facts and so you can see what the bid and the ask is between you and the IRS. 866-513-5516 totally free. Doesn't cost you anything, no obligation. It's called a discovery call. Do it today, and I mean today. Don't delay. Your anxiety will decrease. Jack Bosobic, as we've warned for a long time, if you want to have a really we talk about the early days, the kinetic part of the Third World War, if you want to accelerate if you're an accelerationist and want to accelerate the kinetic part of the Third World War, what you do is merge the two fronts. That would be the front in Ukraine, in the front with Israel, in this situation with the Persians and now with the Houthis that stretches from Lebanon and Syria all the way through across the arc to the Red Sea and the Houthis in the Suez Canal. Jack Bosobic, how dangerous a territory is this and why is Zelensky driving towards this?
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Sir Look, Steve, we got to remember, of course, that this is the this is the clash of civilizations. This is the area at the center of the world island, as Mackinder would have it, where all civilizations are constantly vying for, for purchase, for one upsmanship to see who is able to attain prominence and influence in the world. So this is always where civilizations clash, whether it be the Persians, the Russians, the Byzantines, of course, Alexander the Great. You know, people are talking about the Greek epics yet again, even though I personally didn't care for Christopher Nolan's movie that people have to understand this goes back Thousands of years. Thousands of years. And this is a hornet's nest. And it's always been the bloodlands, which is really just this crescent, just this bloody crescent of instability that runs from, of course, eastern Ukraine and those borderlands all the way down into the Middle East. And what happened this last Saturday isn't getting a lot of attention, but I think that it really should. And this is when Zelensky sent a couple of, we don't know exactly the drones or the strike that took place on an Iranian cargo ship that was headed up from the Blacks, or, excuse me, the Caspian Sea, not the Black Sea, across the Black Sea into the Caspian Sea, across the Caucasus, struck an Iranian supply ship that was sending a supply, it looks like, of drones to Russia. Now, we know that Iran has been sending those supplies for quite some time to, but this is the first time that Zelensky has targeted them directly. And to do so in the Caspian Sea, which is that sea that connects the Caucasus with Russia and Iran, of course, this is a key development which not only could open up a new front in both of those wars, but it is a front where in fact, the wars would merge. Now, we see this done for the political reasoning because we can also see on the political side that Zelensky and Netanyahu are now both traveling to Washington. The Iranian Foreign Minister Rauchi also pointed out, he, he claimed that Zelensky is doing this at the behest of Israel because they want to merge Europe and the Middle east into one large war. And Steve, when it comes down to it, this is one of the most dangerous things that you could, you could find because Dan Kaine and all the other senior generals out there, everyone who's looked at this says the biggest risk of the Iran conflict is drawing in Iran. Iran's the junior partner in, in many respects in terms of their economic access. But if you draw in Russia, if you draw in China to a conflict like that, that has the degree of escalation and spillover into a wider conflict, that, as you say, Steve, wouldn't just be a two front war for the United States, it has the potential to escalate into something far bigger than I think anyone can even imagine right now.
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We've got all this today about artificial intelligence and the Chinese Communist Party. And it's, you know, it's out there that chips are being sold through, through third parties, particularly like I think Thailand is where the chips came from. But what they're doing, Scott Besson's out saying, hey, we're going to shut down through tariffs and other means, the Chinese stealing ip, which is even leading to their open AI. We got Xi scheduled for the books for late September. I'm gonna get to the Russians back in a second. But the big partner here is China. This is why we got blockade. All the oil coming out. No oil should go out. You shouldn't be able to get any oil. And they should monetize it. But correct me if I'm wrong, Poso, don't they have an overland route that's our great ally in Pakistan, the overland route, how they're getting rearmed today with component pieces, is the overland route through Pakistan, which Pakistan happens to be the number one recipient and the number one partner of one belt, one road. The Chinese Communist Party is definitely their ally, and they're in their supplying component parts to the Persians in the overland route that I don't think as of yet, we're bombing. Is that correct, Poso?
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Steve, that that route's been there for quite some time. And of course, that component of the Belt and Road initiative that you're discussing is the key region. Why it is that China has been so focused for years, of course, on Xinjiang and the Uyghurs. And we've talked about that and their treatment at length. But people need to realize that there is a geographic and geopolitical reason for this, because it is exactly at that point in just across the Hindu Kush, just across the border from Pakistan into China where Xinjiang lies. The city of Kashgar is right there where they filmed that, the Kite Runner movie. They filmed that over there and a bunch of other stuff. And so people have to realize that this is all about the overland route that connects the world island. This is why China cares about the Uyghurs. They're not interested in, you know, they don't care about, you know, a Turkic people that, you know, that are. That are set up there for no reason. They're trying to reconstitute the Silk Road Road, and they're doing so. And by the way, there's Chinese cars all over Europe. So they're doing so by via maritime, and they're doing so via overland with all the principalities and countries of from Asia Minor all the way through Central Asia and the Middle east to once again be principalities of China the way they were.
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This is what the mackinder theory, the mackinnon theory, Alexander the Great, Caesar, Napoleon, Hitler, others, about the control of the world island by, you know, who controls the center of the world island, controls the world island. Who controls the world island controls the world. That would be the Asian, the Eurasian land mass can throw in Africa. Homeland defense says, hey, guess what? If we defend the entire island of the Western hemisphere from the Arctic to the tip, and we use our natural strategic pivot, which is not the heartland of thing, we shouldn't be around the rim of it trying to fight a losing game. But the Central Pacific, all the way through the three island chain, because we are a Pacific nation. That is our defense, and that's what we have to focus on. Posto, you got a buried lead there. And I want to ask you, because people are saying, hey, go ahead.
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Before you change on that, Steve, what if the American mackinder strategy of the war room could be defending the western island?
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Exactly, exactly. That's where, that's where the three island chain of the western islands right there. Make your Pacific nation, Jack, before you got a buried lead in there, I just want to make sure we're clear about this. Zelensky. And people are saying, hey, Russia's, Russia's army, the Iranians, you mentioned right there, that on the ship itself, there might have been actual drones from Iran, from Persia, going to Russia so they can continue to combat the Ukrainians. That would mean they got surplus of what they're even hitting us with in the Persian Gulf and the Strait of Hormuz. Your thoughts?
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Well, Steve, look, this has been a key economic and military relationship for the Persians. It's been one that's been continuing. These supplies do continue. We've seen the Iranians be able to conduct their strikes. We know that there's, of course, that debt reporting about the president being warned off of the new Air Force One due to the threat, threat of an Iranian strike or some kind of Iranian interception. And case in point is that, look, the way the distributed mosaic network of Iran's defenses is set up, they do the same thing with their military, with their defense infrastructure, with their manufacturing, with their military industrial base. They do this with their power grid, is that they have small facilities all over the country in a distributed model. So us taking out one plant here, one plant there, whether it's, you know, whether it's a manufacturing plant, whether it's a power plant, that doesn't mean that reduces their entire capacity. And Steve, they set themselves up, they set up their entire system this way for 50 years because they've been waiting for this war. And I'm not saying that, that they're winning and far from it. By the way, I believe that Donald Trump, our president, has control of the escalatory Ladder. I am just saying that this is perhaps more complicated than folks in the Beltway would have you believe.
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And that's why these meetings so important tomorrow, Jack.
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Where do people.
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You're gonna be back up at 2:00'. Clock. You're back from your overseas trip back up at 2 o' clock on Human Events Daily right here on Real America's Voice, following Andrew Colvette in the Charlie Kirk Show. We'll have the technical situation worked out so we can see the whole show. And then tomorrow night, five to seven, we're going to do a special regarding Sam Faddis, his life, his accomplishments, also to the great insights he gave us in every part of the world, but particularly the Middle East. And we're going to tie that directly to the news of the day. The news of the day, I think might have something to do, Jack, tomorrow with Zelensky and Netanyahu in the Imperial capital at the same time.
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That's exactly right, Steve. And that's, and it's also kind of interesting that you're seeing the sort of, you're seeing the war roomization of the UK So I'm back from London. Raheem's over in London. You got Metaxas now over in Oxford. I don't know what's going on, but it might be, it might be that might be a little bit of reverse. 1776, you know, I'm talking about.
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Exactly. Raheem's actually they're doing serious work, as is Metaxa. I mean, Raheem's really over there working with Nigel. Last thing you know, there's a documentarian that made raw footage about Lindsey Graham for a couple of months. And they got Lindsay on the night of the, of the bombing. And he tells about what he told Trump. He told Trump this will take just like a week. And then all of a sudden they're going to rise up and overthrow. So you can see what the intelligence service were feeding right to Lindsey Graham. Your closing thoughts before we bounce, sir.
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Look, I'm just going to like, I'm not going to, you know, speak ill of the late senator, but I am going to say that that footage Steve watching made me sick to my stomach. The giddiness in, in the voice, the levity, clapping and cheering, you know, knowing that, you know, that Americans were going into harm's way. I mean, this is serious business. And it just doesn't seem like he was taking it seriously at all. And it made me sick to my stomach to watch something like that. But that's the People that are sending 5,000 sailors at a clip on these aircraft carriers in harm's way.
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In harm's way. We're gonna play those clips probably this evening. Jack, you're the Associated Press of the MAGA movement on Twitter. And get her. Where do people go?
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All right, we're up at Jack Posovic on Truth Social on Telegram and of course, Instagram and Getter as well. Make sure you are there because you never know when the sensor hammer swings back down.
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Thank you, sir. See you later. 5:00pm to 7:00pm tomorrow night. Natalie Winters and Jack Besso will be co hosting. We will have many other people on In Memoriam to the great Sam Faddis short commercial break. We're going to Oxford next with Eric Metaxas.
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Okay, we're going to Oxford. Metaxas, you're doing your Socrates in the City. You did your last one. Lexington and Concord are today. You carrying the flag of revolution to the heart of England's intelligentsia at Oxford in Cambridge, sir.
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Not exactly, but I'd like to think that the whole. When the Holy Spirit arrives, God is on the move. Liberty is here. I'll tell you, it is fascinating, Steve, just yet we're doing, you know, I've been doing Socrates in the city for 25 years. We do these retreats, different places. So here we're in Oxford, England. Why? Because I love C.S. lewis, J.R.R. tolkien. That's a big reason we're here. But it's a fascinating thing, the cultural Difference. You know, one of the, the themes of my book Revolution is the cultural divide between the British elites of Georgian era England and the American elites. The American elites were profoundly Christian. Today we would think of them as evangelical Bible based Christians. They believed in virtue and principle and honor the British elites. There's tremendous decadence. And it's a funny thing because, I mean, you know, I mentioned we're doing the Socrates in the city thing. Victoria Jackson of Saturday Night Live, she's going to be with us here and it's all, it's just a great group of people. But two days ago I was in Nashville with Victoria and her husband. We were having a conversation and she said, I love the part in your book. I'm not going to do her high pitched voice. I love the part of your book where you write about the engagement party that General Burgoyne had or whatever. And I realized I'd forgotten about this. I go out of my way in the book Revolution to talk about the extraordinary decadence of the British elite. It's just a level of decadence that, that we kind of forget that our guys, okay, the Minute Men, Paul Revere, you know, many of them working class, they were fighting elite folks like, you know, Gentleman Johnny Burgoyne, who were. They weren't just elites, they were effete. There was something in that culture. And it's funny because it's the same culture today. I keep saying that the story of the revolution, it's like Hollywood and Manhattan elites with their values, with their decadent values, sneering at faith, fighting with people from a small town in Oklahoma. They speak the same language. But the cultural divide is absolutely extraordinary. And so in the book there's a few examples you've read about gentlemen.
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Tell us about Gentleman Johnny Burgoyne because he was one of those field officers and his surrender at Saratoga was a game changer. Tell me about General Johnny Burgoyne, who was the top of the top, right?
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Well, one of the, one of the reasons I loved writing this book, you know, is that there are characters like Gentleman Johnny Burgoyne. I remember in fifth grade hearing about Gentleman Johnny Burgoyne and you realize that this guy was, he was a fop. He was a dandy and he was somebody that he really had. He was at the center of British elite culture. And I go out of my way to tell the story before he comes over to America. He basically throws a party for his, I think it's a nephew and it's an engagement party. And it is the most extravagant Decadent party. It's in the book. You read the book. So you read. But you almost can't believe the level of decadence for this party. No expense is spared. It's just, it's something that most people would say, you know, this is a little much. You're spending a lot of money. The reason you sure, the reason, the
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reason you need to get this book and you need to get copies for the younger people is that you just said something about. You heard about Johnny Burgoyne in the fifth grade. Well, trust me, in American schools today, they ain't here unless you're home schooled. You ain't hearing about Johnny Burgoyne in the Saratoga campaign in the fifth grade. This is why you got to get the book right.
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Well, listen, Burgoyne is one of those characters. I fall in love with some of these characters. Even the bad guys like you just think, I gotta write about this guy, cuz he is so entertaining. He's a playwright, he's hanging out with David Garrick and he's writing plays. And then he decides, you know, he wants to be in the military. And when he, when he comes to America, basically he's sent over with General Howe and General Clinton. And this is in 1775. So, you know, he arrives right after Lexington and Concord and right before the battle of Bunker Hill. And he has this crazy idea that he's going to bring reconciliation between the colonies. And then when he sees the bloodbath of Bunker Hill, he kind of changes his tune. But to me, it's comedy. When you get to the battle of Saratoga, he's so pompous that he's writing these letters, trying to get the Americans, trying to terrorize them, basically say, like, if you, if you do not, you know, surrender to me to Gentleman Johnny Burgoyne, we will crush you. We will unleash the savages on you. Because they knew that the Native Americans that the British very, very cynically allied with were sadistic. They would scalp living people, they would torture, they would do all this stuff. So he is just one of the characters in the book that you think, are you making this up? Is this for a novel? No, this is real. These characters were real. And, and again, the level of decadence with Burgoyne in 1777, he oversees the turning point of the war. When we crush the British at the Battle of Saratoga. It's, it's just a moment that changes everything. At that point, Burgoyne realizes, okay, I guess I'm not going to be the hero that I thought I was, but it's just. There's so many characters like that. You know, there's drinking.
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This is when France. France starts. Start taking it seriously. The book revolution. Real quickly. The Eagle and Child pub. The Inklings. C.S. lewis and Tolkien. Talk to us about it. Give the audience. I know we'll be fascinated by all this about the Inklings.
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Listen, I'll tell you. And I can come back on. I'll be here all week. But I'll tell you, this is. I love it here. My wife and I, you know, we love England. We were here on our honeymoon 30 years ago. Okay. And every time there's a CS Lewis conference, we come to Oxford and Cambridge right down the street. I mean, I could. I could. I could sprint there in, you know, 20 seconds. The eagle and Child. This is the place where Tolkien and C.S. lewis would meet. They would read to each other their works in progress, the Hobbit, the Chronicles of Narnia. They would read this to each other. They call it the Rabbit Room. It's a back room that they would gather and they'd drink their ale, and they're reading this stuff you can't even imagine.
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And.
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And those are just two of the most famous Inklings. But there was just a number of literary figures. So I love CS Lewis. He's absolutely my favorite writer. And that's a big part of why I started Socrates in the City, to just to acquaint people with this kind of stuff that has a deeply Christian view. And I got to. I got to say, since I'm in England, Americans always loved Lewis and Tolkien more than the British loved Lewis and Tolkien, because Americans tend to be more overtly Christian over here. It's kind of. You can. You can feel it. Obviously, when you're in England, it's spiritually a little bit darker, a little bit more pagan. But, you know, there's tons of Americans in Oxford. I get recognized down the street. There's so many evangelical conservative Christians in Oxford in the summer having events. So it's just. It's absolutely amazing. It's absolutely. It is amazing. And I. And I do love it here. We come here every year.
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C.S. lewis and Tolkien get all the. Get the headlines. But my favorite was Charles Williams. If you ever get a chance, two books, War in Heaven and Descent into Hell.
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Not a lot of people know about this stuff. God bless you for knowing about that. And one thing I got to say is that near here, Magdalene College was where Tolkien talked CS Lewis into accepting Jesus because Lewis had become a. He believes in God. But I don't know about the Jesus thing. Tolkien says to him, the story of Jesus, it's the one true myth. You love myth. Myth has power. What if there was a myth of the dying God who's resurrected that once in history actually happened? And they were taking a late night walk on Addison's Walk. I've been there many times. We're going to go there in a couple of days. And Tolkien talks Lewis into thinking about this, and that leads to the conversion of. Of C.S. lewis, thanks to J.R.R. tolkien. It's an amazing moment in the 20th century. Two of the giants, I think, the greatest authors of the 20th century talking about this kind of stuff. It all happened here. You can tell I'm excited.
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And you remember John McCain, John McCain in the floor of the Senate, accused Maga of being the hobbits. Well, the hobbits from the Shire were the backbone of society, as Tolkien knew from his. From his youth of the show.
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Nobody knew it better than Tolkien and C.S. lewis. And that's why they wrote. They wrote what they did. They wanted. They wanted. And this gets to the heart of it. They were not decadent, they were not cynical. They believed in heroism. They believed in sacrifice. They believed in the little guy fighting for something beautiful and good and true. And that's why their books are beautiful and powerful and stand today. And Christian faith is at the center of it. And I really think that that's, you know, when I think about liberty,
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your
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book Revolution talks about the sacred cause. These. These folks signed up for a sacred cause that was greater than themselves. That's the power revolution.
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Yeah.
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Where do we get it? Right now? Where do we get it? Well, I want to make sure you
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can go to Amazon. If you can find it in a Barnes and Noble, I would be surprised, some Barnes and Noble carrying it. But. But basically, right now, the best place to get it is Amazon. You can read it tomorrow. I read the audiobook in case somebody wants to do the audiobook. That's my voice, but I'm very excited it continues to sell. Well, yesterday I was preaching at a church in Murfreesboro, Tennessee, talking about this book. Next weekend I'm going to be in Dallas. The weekend after that, I'm going to be in Myrtle Beach, South Carolina. After that, I'll be in San Jose, California. I've been everywhere, and everywhere I go, people say, I saw you on War Room. So it's kind of funny to. Everywhere I go, people are greeting me and saying, say hello to Steve. So hello from everywhere.
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Thank you. It's great. The word posse turn it. They love the book. They've made the book a New York Times bestseller, one of the biggest selling, hottest books of the summer. Before you go, how many total hits on Newsmax and Fox News?
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Sir, Fox News has not had me on Newsmax has had me on three very brief hits. But that was just right in the beginning. I hope they'll have me on again.
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They gotta have you on again. It's great. Chris Reddy knows England. He loves England. Should have you on from London, from. From Oxford.
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Great week.
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We're going to check back in on an update on the Inklings later in the week. Say hi to everybody. Socrates in the city in Oxford. The movable piece, Socrates and city. Eric, great job. People love the book. The book is revolution, the sacred cause that is handed down to you through every patriot's grave to the current time. Yes, you are the same as the revolutionary generation. Think about the responsibility you have. Short commercial break we'll be back for some shocking numbers in a moment.
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The only end is annihilation.
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Now, what if the winning this war
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requires boots on the ground? I asked you that last time. That's not very popular with the American people. What is your response to that?
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It's not popular with me either. Look, I'm not a parent of an army person, a Marine person, so I'm very sensitive to that, trust me. But look, we have the army. We have the Marines for a reason. They're not there to shake your hand at the airport, Rachel, Okay? They're there for a reason. Last I checked, we don't have a draft in this country. So these courageous men and women know exactly what they're signing up for. This is war. We don't want to see anybody die, but this is war. A war that started 47 years ago, that they started. So, yes, I know the moral ground is to say, I don't want our kids to die. I feel the same way. But we got to win now. We can win, maybe without putting boots on the ground, maybe we can. I don't know. I'm not Jack Keene. I don't have that type of information. If we can do that, great. But if at some point it requires putting some boots on the ground to win this war. That's why they signed up to fight for this country, to fight for President Trump and to rid the world of evil animals like the Iranian regime on
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economic consequences for every historic and significant decision a president makes. And I am confident that in the end, President Trump will be judged as one of our greatest presidents for numerous reasons, but especially this courageous undertaking. And it may take time, context and perspective to understand how extraordinary, how extraordinary the president's actions are and how heroic they are under the circumstances, since it seems that every element of our society except for you, Mr. And Mrs. America, are objecting to him doing what he's doing, which must be done.
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You, Mr. And Mrs. America, that have raised your kids upright so they want to defend this country and Sid, was it Rosenberg right there saying they know they signed up for another war in the Middle east. Not so sure about that being one of the people that signed up. And of course my kid brother and daughter and many, many people in the family, but all served in the Middle East. Nick Cleveland Stout from Quincy, you've got a report that I want to make sure we go through it in detail so people can see and read for themselves and look at your backup data so they come to their own conclusion. But it's pretty draw jaw dropping. You basically assert from your research that since October 7, the Hamas attack, terrorist attack, surprise attack on, on Israel that since roughly that time is it a billion dollars or close to a billion dollars has been spent by Israel for influencers and radio. And I'm not saying Sid or Mark Levin took that money. I just want to use that as an example of some of the over the top pitches you're hearing on Fox News right now. But that a billion dollars has gone in an influence operation, very sophisticated, very systematic, not just onesies, twosies, but to basically change opinion or to influence opinion and then political action in the United States.
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Sir.
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Yeah, first of all, thanks so much for having me. But that's exactly right that about, you know, a billion dollars has been allocated for public diplomacy hasbara efforts abroad, not just in the US but you can I tracked about 100 million of those dollars has been spent under the Foreign Agents Registration act, which is as your viewers are probably well aware, you know, this law that requires contractors, lobbyists of foreign governments to disclose what they're doing on behalf of foreign governments. So yeah, it's a lot of money and it's being used for a lot of things. You know, influencing chatbots, paying influencers, you know, reaching out to evangelical Christians, you know, all kinds of things that we can get into.
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Now this is separate, I just want to make sure this is separate from AIPAC and money they put in either for lobbying or for influence, for giving money to political campaigns or for lobbying efforts on Capitol Hill. Correct. This is a totally. And the reason people are kind of shocked by it, that they've had that Israel's done that for years, or people that are affiliated and support Israel done that for years. But this is a totally different bucket, correct?
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That's exactly right. This is a totally new strategy that was largely in response to, I think, them realizing that they needed to put their thumb on the scale in a more meaningful way. Like after just the precipitous collapse of American public support for the US Israel relationship, you know, whereas before they could rely on those organizations that you're describing, like aipac, like Christians United for Israel, that are American led, American funded, you know, now they have to. Actually, the Israeli government is actually having to hire a lot of people under Farah, which they didn't do before.
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But.
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But walk me through. Well, in Farah, because I think there's more tension to these Farah laws today. People are realizing you could be prosecuted for this. I think people for years did this without doing it, that you could be prosecuted for this. And so now they're much more. But isn't this in response to, in fairness, isn't this a response to. All of a sudden they were kind of overwhelmed by TikTok and Instagram, of all these other influencers, some of which money may have come from the Gulf Emirates, because remember the theory of the war room, we ain't got any friends over there. The Gulf Emirates that we're defending, and you got all these bases over there, and kids are dying at these bases. They're the same guys funding radical Islam here in the United States. They're not our allies. And we can't keep kidding ourselves. They're allies. The Israelis. Wasn't the fact they got caught by surprise, particularly on TikTok and Instagram, of this kind of flood of particularly of the early days of the Gaza war, that all sudden you can see it, particularly among young people, they've started to shift dramatically on their support for Israel, which traditionally the countries just kind of had a. I don't say knee jerk, but it was just always, Israel's our greatest ally. And all of a sudden they realized that with TikTok and Instagram, there was a very different message getting out there. And they were late to the party.
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Yeah, to be clear, a lot of different countries engage in different kinds of foreign influence. And if you look at the top spenders, they're pretty much all Gulf countries. I've written about Saudi Arabia, the United Arab Emirates, Qatar. Those countries in particular are very invested in influencing elite opinion, American public opinion. You know, I think that a lot of the. I will say, I think a lot of the.
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I want to make sure. Hang on. I want to make sure I get this clear because this is why you're such an important guy. You're covering it all. They're doing that so that we support them. But they're also trying to under. Under, particularly with. You can see it in Texas and throughout the country with this kind of what I call this Islamic invasion. The money's all coming from Turkey and Saudi Arabia and Qatar, particularly Qatar. But they're very active in the social media to influence American. Not just opinion, but to turn it into political power. Correct. Political power from the United States that supports them in the Gulf. Correct.
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All of these countries are very invested in winning over. Yeah, exactly. Like you said, American public opinion, elite opinion. I mean, I think a lot of the response, though, to, you know, this precipitous collapse in American public support, I don't think you can just chalk up to foreign influence. Like, a lot of it is very organic. You know, seeing the images coming out of Gaza, seeing churches being bombed. I know a lot of evangelical Christians have been very upset seeing what's coming out of Gaza. And then there are plenty of, like, America first, like very, you know, genuine America first concerns over, you know, the. The fact that Israel has played a role in getting the US into this war with Iran. So, you know, I think a lot of those. Those countries have. Have you mentioned, have been active in this space. I haven't seen that they've directly paid influencers. That seems relatively new. But these countries definitely sponsor delegations of influencers to come over. You know, Qatar has done that. Saudi Arabia has done that. So they're all very, very active in trying to win over these, you know, important stakeholders.
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Do we have. Do we have enough to make it visible? First off, I think it should be banned. But to make it visible. Is. Is the foreign. Because you said right now from the Gulf Emirates in your research, I don't think any of the inflow, the money that's going to people and there is money going to people is not fully reported. Do we have laws in the book so that the American people can say, hey, if it's the Israelis or if it's Qatar, I can fully understand that they're feeding me stuff that they want us, that they want me to react to and to support them? Is there enough regulation of this that the American people would be able to say, hey, because we don't want to limit what people see. But when you see it, you know that, hey, somebody's giving me their point of view because they want me to report their to. To respond to what they want to have happen.
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We do, you know, in the Foreign Agents Registration act, like, if you register as a foreign agent, you're given a packet full of instructions about how to comply with the law. And, you know, if you look at that like it says that if you post online, for instance, then you have to always disclose that you are a paid agent of a foreign government. It's called a conspicuous statement. And if you look, you know, some foreign agents actually do abide by this. You know, if you look at, like Rod Blagojevich, for instance, he's a registered foreign agent for Republica Srpska, and he's very transparent. Like, whenever he posts on Twitter, he always says, you know, I'm doing this because I'm a paid foreign agent. And that's part of the problem is like, you know, something that Marjorie Taylor Greene has pointed out is it's so difficult to know who is paid and who's not in the foreign influence space. The problem is it's not enforced. Right. There are a lot of influencers who are being paid, but we just don't know who they are. You know, the same way when you're scrolling your timeline and you see an ad for, you know, a pair of Nike shoes and it says, you know, this is an ad.
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But hang on, but hang on, you're seeing a hundred million dollars. Let's start with what we do know. And if that's being enforced, then we start what we don't know, and it's not being the $100 million. In fact, I think. And I was kind of shocked at this because I know Brad pretty well. But Parscal, Brad Parscale, who was our head of digital in the first Trump campaign. I think even the second Trump campaign, there was some perturbation. I think he's still running. He's an expert. Brad's one of the smartest guys in the world of this. That's why he's always been part of the Trump movement. Brad, he and his partner bought Salem Radio and Salem Radio, and people should understand this. They bought Salem Radio. I don't think they paid anything for the equity. They bought the debt at a huge discount. Why was that? Because the host at Salem Radio were not generating a big enough audience to really get the ad revenues to pay for it. So Brad Parscale, did they take, was it 50 or 60 million dollars directly from Israel? And Brad actually registered as a foreign agent.
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Yeah. So so he registered as a foreign agent of Israel in September of last year, and his contract has been upped many times by the Israeli government. So initially it was for $1.5 million a month. Then it was $3 million a month. Now he's getting $4.5 million a month. And yeah, he's doing a number, a number of things for the Israeli government. He's been the largest recipient of these funds that are trickling down to American contractors working for the Israeli government. So over the course of a year, he's set to get just shy of $50 million.
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Okay, 50 minutes. So let's this is I'm gonna hold you through the break, but if I'm listening to Salem Radio, did they have a disclosure that says that they are funded by a, a foreign agent of the Israeli government? I mean, you talk about there's regulations that they have to post if you have AM radio, which is still kind of from the Rush Limbaugh school of getting the word out, very powerful, particularly in the MAGA movement, particularly in rural areas, that they have disclosures now on all their scripts, including Scott Jennings and all these guys, Hugh Hewitt, that they are financed and basically kept alive by a foreign agent of money coming directly from Israel.
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Sir, they do not. And to clarify, though, so Parscale has a firm called Clock Tower X, which is the LLC that this $50 million is coming through. And Parscale is doing a lot of things on behalf of the Israeli government. One of the things is that he's carrying out a mass texting campaign. He's texting what appears to be millions and millions of Americans, asking them about their views on Israel, lightly pushing, you know, pro Israeli narratives. He's also creating a number of websites on behalf of the Israeli government that talk about, you know, how great of an ally Israel is, you know, why it's important for the US to support Israel in the war in Iran, all these different things. So those are two of the main things that he's doing. But there is this other element of, you know, in the initial contract, he said that part of his work would be to integrate pro Israel messaging into. Yeah, Salem Media.
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And hang on one second. I want to get, I want to fully develop this topic. Short commercial break Nick Cleveland Stout from the Quincy Institute on this amazing report that you've got to read. Short commercial break Back in a moment.
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Parscale has disclosed quite a bit about what he's doing. So the company that's carrying out the mass texting campaign is called Sparkfire Technologies. He's given them upwards of $5 million to carry out this campaign. I know a lot of people that have gotten these texts. They'll reach out, they'll say something like,
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hey, do they disclose, hang on, do they disclose that they're agents of the Israeli government in the text?
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They do not. And that's a very important point. They'll reach out initially, they'll say something.
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Isn't that a violation of federal law?
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So it appears as though. So basically at some point in the conversation, they will send a link to one of these pro Israel websites that are created by Parscale. And if you click that website and go to the very, very bottom and then you see a statement that says, this is a paid campaign from the Israeli government. I don't know about you, but I typically don't click links from no random chat bots that reach out.
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But whose responsibility? It's not a self reporting thing. Whose responsibility? When you're a foreign agent who is supposed to be checking that and going to Parscale and say, hey, look at the bottom of the fifth page is not good enough. You need it in block letters up at the top. Just like if Qatar is doing it or the CCP is doing it, it should be in block letters right up there. So the American people. You shouldn't block the content. So the American people can't say, you should see it. You can weigh and measure it, but you should know if it's coming from a government that's paying the guy to do it. This is not just a group of Americans saying, hey, look, we support Israel. Let's put on a play. Right? No. So whose responsibility is to enforce this?
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It's the Department of Justice. And I think it's a very important point though, that this is like not just an Israel specific thing. This is like if anyone is carrying out this campaign, you know, they need to disclose that they are funded on behalf of a foreign government, that they're carrying this out on behalf of a foreign government. So, yeah, it's the Department of Justice's responsibility to ensure that different foreign agents are disclosing everything that they need to be. And you know, it appears to me as though Parscale in these texts is not meeting that threshold.
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What would they do? They've taken $500,000 on Salem Radio, you said it's even disclosed that. Do they put up any disclaimer at all on website? They put up any disclaimer during their shows that we are partially funded or we are taking money from a registered foreign agent of the Israeli government.
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Sir, I haven't seen anything along those lines. But, you know, Parscale is clearly in a position to be able to integrate these pro Israel messaging into Salem Media properties. You know, he's the chief strategy officer over there and you know, he said that he hasn't really done anything related to Salem Media, but in his initial filing, you know, he made very clear that that was one of his top priorities and one of his closest allies just played a large role in the buyout of Salem Media about. About a month and a half ago.
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Yeah, no, they bought it out. He and his partner bought it out Qatar. Whether it's New York City, the Public education. I can tell you down in Texas between Pakistan, Saudis, Turks, but really Qatar we're getting flooded with with propaganda about Islam and about the benefits of Islam. Is anybody in the Justice Department if they're not self disclosing at least Parscale disclosed so he's in public thing. I'm an agent of the Israeli government. There are tons of people, there's tons of cash coming in from the Gulf Emirates as you know. Is anybody enforce that and do we need somebody the Justice Department say hey look you got to get on top of this. They got, they got people in the United States acting as their agents are not disclosing it, sir.
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Definitely there needs to be far more disclosure. I think we've seen just a lack of enforcement in this Justice Department. Unfortunately when it comes to foreign influence we have laws on the books but unfortunately it seems like hang on.
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But Biden didn't do it any better. My point is it's kind of the apparatus. The apparatus is just not interesting. We see this in the disclosures. A P Anyway, we got to bounce. I'm have you back on tomorrow. I got so many more questions but I want everybody to read this report and if Mo and Elizabeth and Grace can act as force multiply send it out to the posse. I need everybody to read it. Nick, you're going to be back on the smart until that time your social media where they go to get your research, sir.
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Yeah, The Quincy Institute. Quincy.org Plenty of good stuff there. You can read the entire report for yourself. The eighth front. You can also follow me on Twitter Nick Cleveland Stout. I think my tech, My username is nickclevelands the 8th front.
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In fact tomorrow I will start off by asking Nick, what is the eighth front? Nick, thank you so much for coming on today. Appreciate you.
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Thanks for having me on our first
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show back without the great Sam Faddis. Unbelievable. Tomorrow five to seven, Natalie and Jack are gonna be co hosting with me. We're gonna do a special Sam Feddes for two hours and we're gonna tie it to current events because Sam would have been all over the show with both Zelensky and Netanyahu in town for meetings about Lindsey Graham's funeral. Attending Lindsey Graham's funeral, Sam Faddis I think would have one or two observations about that and we'll tie it all to together. The Charlie Kirk show is next. Andrew Covet in the team POSO will be up fully operational in his studio after his trip overseas at 2 o'.
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Clock.
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You got Steve Gruber's going to be in Michigan. President's leaving. In fact, we had it in the box. Leaving for Michigan. Gruber's going to be there live. And then bowling. And then back to war at five o'.
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Clock.
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We'll be here five to seven tonight. Until then,
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you've been in the war with me.
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See you back there.
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Fine.
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We're united, strong and free.