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Alex Stein
This is an I heart podcast. Guaranteed human.
Stuart Rhodes
When the lights go down, the truth comes out.
Alex Stein
Tucker, you are not the father.
Protester/Onlooker
This has to be wrong.
Stuart Rhodes
After Hours with Alex Stein. No filter.
Alex Stein
If it was okay to have anal sex, no apologies. You were talking about things that probably you shouldn't talk about.
Stuart Rhodes
The undisputed king of trolling.
Protester/Onlooker
I finally had my own show.
Alex Stein
At one point, your ancestors owned slaves.
Stuart Rhodes
They tried to cancel us. Deplatforming works.
Alex Stein
She wants to kill babies, but she's still beautiful.
Protester/Onlooker
Look at that booty on aoc. That's my favorite Big booty.
Stuart Rhodes
Latina politics, culture, hypocrisy.
Protester/Onlooker
They want them to have their penises
Stuart Rhodes
cut off uncensored and uncontrolled.
Protester/Onlooker
That's what I'm saying. They admit they want to cut people's penises off.
Stuart Rhodes
Late night just got dangerous. After Hours with your host, Alex Stein starts right now.
Alex Stein
Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to After Hours with Alex Stein right here on Real America's Voice. Now, I want to start off the episode by just saying thank you to two of my guests. The first one, you know me, is the founder of the Oath Keepers and actually got a really nice intro. Let me just read it. Today we're honored to welcome a true American patriot and constitutional defender, Stuart Rhodes, a US army paratrooper and disabled veteran who served in an airborne long range reconnaissance unit. Stewart later became a Yale law graduate, worked on Congressman Ron Paul's staff, and founded the Oath Keepers in 2009, an organization that grew to 40,000 members dedicated to upholding their oaths to the Constitution. After January 6, where Oath Keepers provided volunteer security for permitted rallies on Capitol grounds, Stewart was targeted in a politically charged D.C. show trial for simply speaking out about the 2020 election, which we know is stolen. He refused to plead guilty to crimes he didn't commit, refused to turn on President Trump, and endured over a year in solitary confinement as they tried to break him since to 18 years. He served three years with unwavering loyalty to this country until President Trump commuted his sentence on January 20, 2025. Now free and rebuilding the Oath Keepers, Stewart has continued his service, leading search and rescue and organizing over 100 volunteers in the aftermath of the devastating 2025 Kerrville, Texas floods, where a cool children actually died alongside doc Pete Chambers. Stuart, welcome to the show. It's an honor to have you. I kind of condensed your.
Stuart Rhodes
That's good.
Alex Stein
Is that good? Is that okay?
Stuart Rhodes
Yeah.
Alex Stein
Well, you know, you are a very accomplished young man. And then I also got to give a big shout out to my man Chad Rogers, who was an executive protection agent that I hired to help protect me. And to be honest, Chad, you're not the biggest guy, but you're one of the toughest guys. You know, you're not. You are kind of slight, but you were tough and you kept me safe. And I just want to say thank you to both you guys. Stu, you were there the whole time at this no Kings rally. I'm sure you guys have seen the footage. It was all over the news, Fox and, you know, everybody played it. And I think what was so incredible about what you guys did is you guys were very professional. Like you guys weren't talking a lot. It's almost like you guys were talking without. How do I say this? Non verbal communication. That's how you guys were communicating.
Stuart Rhodes
And Enrique was there in the Proud Boys, of course.
Alex Stein
Enrique Tario. Yeah, we can't forget about Enrique. But I just want to say. And I want to give you the floor to talk, but you guys really kept my, you know, behind safe. You know, I don't want to cuss, but I probably could have easily gotten hurt at that rally if you guys weren't there.
Stuart Rhodes
Portland is very much. We've been in Portland a few times. Berkeley, California. And just so everyone knows, we worked side by side with the Proud boys for years. So it was really awesome to be, you know, free and not in prison and then on the street with the Proud boys again. Was the first time Enrique and I have done that again.
Alex Stein
Well, it's, it's so awesome that you got out and it was such nonsense the fact that you even got charged for January 6th. But sadly, Chad did not have the same fate. Chad got thrown in loose staring in Dallas county, which is not a very fun place to go.
Stuart Rhodes
Yeah.
Alex Stein
And luckily Dallas, you know, came to their senses and immediately dropped the charges because Chad wasn't the one that instigated the fight. But Chad, can you tell us a little bit about that, you know, whole incident?
Chad Rogers
Sure. It was me and my team there and a few of us were dressed alike and they were assaulting us left and right. It wasn't just you getting assaulted.
Alex Stein
They were hitting me. I know. They're hitting all of us with signs. That's where they kept doing it. They kept hitting me with a sign.
Chad Rogers
Yeah, these, these, the sticks would hurt, you know, and so we were just kind of keeping people back off of you. And one of my, one of my officers was getting slammed in her collarbone. And it was a female officer.
Protester/Onlooker
Yeah.
Chad Rogers
And. And she's there with us. And she's just as tough as I am. And so whenever she hit the. You know, she elbowed the guy in the. In the ribs and then turned around and pushed him. His hat flew off. Well, we had switched. We were just switching sides because we had a flag in our face from the guy that was right behind you. And I'm work my way back around to get close, and they're all pointing at me. Well, I'm now in her place of where she was, and we looked almost exactly the same, except for our gloves, so.
Alex Stein
And then the cops just arrested you. And my other buddy Clayton was there. He got detained by the cops. Luckily, they let him go. But why do you think they actually took you to jail? Like, I know when they. They brought you to the side, what happened? Did they even let you explain yourself? Did they even give you. Like, you're. At least.
Chad Rogers
You know, I told them exactly who I was and about my credentials and everything else, and they're like, we don't care. That was their response, because I remember
Alex Stein
I saw the footage. You were viral on Fox News, you know, where they were all behind you. Yeah, you were definitely viral.
Stuart Rhodes
Cnn.
Alex Stein
Yeah, cnn, all of them. I mean, we were probably one of the spiciest protests, to say the least. But I just didn't know if you ever got your. You know, you got to actually express your side of what happened. I didn't know. But you did. So they did talk to you before they technically arrested you, and they just didn't care.
Chad Rogers
They just said, investigator, looked at the footage and saw it was me.
Alex Stein
And then, you know, at the rally, they said, investigator. That's such bs.
Chad Rogers
Oh, it was horrible. Yeah, it was horrible. And it was going to be a class C. They were actually going to release me and just give me a ticket, which would have been fine.
Alex Stein
Yeah.
Chad Rogers
And then they came back, said, oh, no, the guy's over 70 years old. And, you know, that's. It's now elderly abuse.
Alex Stein
And I'm like, that was the guy that was starting all the drama, though. That old guy was the one that was hitting me with that yellow sign.
Stuart Rhodes
Dropped out. Boomers.
Alex Stein
Yeah. And you know what? I like the boomers. My only. I just recently did a debate, millennials versus boomers. And, you know, it's funny, with the boomers, we agreed on every single domestic policy issue. The fact that, you know, we have an affordability crisis, housing crisis, homeless crisis, AI crisis, taking jobs. But when it comes to foreign policy, every boomer loves, you know, to go
Stuart Rhodes
start wars well, they're TDS also.
Alex Stein
Oh, yeah. I'm on the level, for sure. And that's one thing. Were you surprised about the average age of the protesters? I would say it was, you know. You weren't surprised? I was a. Because one of the women that ran into me was like, oh, I'm friends with your dad. And my dad's 71. And I'm like, why are my dad's friends at this protest? You know, I thought that was unusual.
Stuart Rhodes
Yeah, that's what they're doing all across the country. It's all a bunch of boomer Karens are being recruited as their cannon fodder. And they want. They want violence against them. They want us to kick their ass.
Alex Stein
And, you know, they're probably on all kinds of SSRIs, all kinds of medication that they're, you know, at their doctor. We're playing some of the footage of it, but the cops are getting handsy with me in this clip right here. The cop actually pushed me out of the way. So the cops were not on our side whatsoever. But in a way, I will. I will give them this. I'm not trying to give him any credit. I guess they did get involved, which. That. I guess that's better than them not getting involved. You know, I mean, I didn't. I don't want.
Stuart Rhodes
You mean.
Alex Stein
Well, no, no, not necessarily that, but you know how they. I don't agree with that, but I'm saying, you know, how they actually made that formation and all that stuff. I was kind of like, well, okay, this is kind of interesting. I'd never seen that. I've been to a lot of Purchase. Have you seen that before, Stuart, where they. Where they blocked the street like that because they.
Stuart Rhodes
What they wanted is they wanted you to leave. Yeah. So they were trying to block you to. To interrupt what you're doing and then hoping you're going to leave. That was what they were doing.
Alex Stein
But then we got to go back on to the, you know, parade grounds where they actually did the. Where they started the rally and kind of troll around the no King stage without any of the crazy, you know, psychos there. So that was actually ended up being, you know, kind of a funny clip and an interesting take on the whole no Kings protest. And I know everybody talks about the absurdity, the fact that we're protesting no Kings when we haven't had a king for 250. So it's just. It's all really nonsense at the end of the day. And I will give you credit, those two when you went up to, you know, January 6th, that election, I don't know how much we could say this, but it was definitely funny business. Maybe they legally stole it, but they still stole it. Even if they legally did it, it was unconditional.
Stuart Rhodes
It was illegal. They violated state election law and all the swing states. That triggered a violation of Article 2. Article 2 says the legislature shall determine the manner for selecting electors. State legislatures did that. It said election laws. You can't just go and do what you want. Courts or executive branch. So what should have happened? Like in 2000, Bush v. Gore, Supreme Court stepped in and said, hey, Supreme Court of Florida, when you're counting the hanging chads, do you remember the hanging.
Alex Stein
I remember the hanging chads was the big deal. That was a gimmick, though. Do you think that that was cheated for Bush?
Stuart Rhodes
No, I think the Supreme Court did the right thing.
Alex Stein
Okay, so that one you do, because I was in, I was in eighth grade, so I was going to follow
Stuart Rhodes
the state election law was the whole point of that. That's why Supreme Court stepped in through Article 2 and said, hey, Article 2 says the legislature decides. You got to count the hanging chads according to the law passed by the state legislature. Now Fast forward to 2020. They didn't do that. They didn't do their job.
Protester/Onlooker
Wow.
Stuart Rhodes
So Paxton sued on behalf of Texas, sued Pennsylvania. Twenty other states came in and said, hey, Pennsylvania is violating Article 2. The Supreme Court should have done the exact same thing as Bush v. Gore. They should have stepped in and enforced the state election laws. But instead, it's down on their hands.
Alex Stein
See, I think, you know, I'm such a conspiracy theorist, is that I believe that they actually put in the pandemic so they could get the mail in ballots.
Chad Rogers
Absolutely.
Alex Stein
Because if you look at the statistics, when it came to in person voting, Donald Trump actually won all 50 states. But when it came to ballots, mail in ballots, Joe Biden won all 50 states too, which is kind of crazy. How. How did he win all 50 states when it came to mail in ballots?
Stuart Rhodes
Fraud.
Alex Stein
Exactly.
Stuart Rhodes
And so that's why I call it the COVID couple. They used Covid as their mechanism for the coup and also all the other stuff that came with it.
Alex Stein
Yeah, of course.
Stuart Rhodes
Mass poisoning. Everything else they did to us.
Alex Stein
Yeah. And I mean, you know, the vaccine, the emergency use authorization, so they could do a vaccine with no long term testing. The reason why I don't like that is because we've had SARS and Middle Eastern respiratory syndrome, MERS for years. We've had outbreaks of this and there are protocols and remedies for it. It doesn't necessarily heal it, but they've been dealing with pneumonia since the beginning of, you know, they created medicine. So it's just ludicrous for them to say, oh, well, here, take this vaccine. We have no long term testing because there's no remedies. For Covid. It was just all bullshit.
Stuart Rhodes
Hydroxychloroquine, which is fine.
Alex Stein
Yeah, that's what I'm saying there. But you couldn't take that, Couldn't take ivermectin. You couldn't take any of that stuff. And it's just, I mean, it really makes me sick, the rights that we gave away. And I'm afraid that when they try to do it again, people will be excited for it. Because I remember there was a lot of people that were sad when the pandemic was over.
Stuart Rhodes
Who's that?
Alex Stein
Not conservatives, but the people that were, you know, on the left is. They like not having to go into work. They like that getting a $1,200 check. There's a lot of people that actually
Stuart Rhodes
enjoyed the pandemic, like being human pincushions, basically.
Alex Stein
There really are people that are like that. And I would have thought Americans value their freedom, but I'm.
Stuart Rhodes
Well, look at Texas. I mean, this is a sad thing. I was here in Texas when that happened. You know, that's where I met Brian was at the rally for Shelley Luther when she's being.
Alex Stein
Yeah, she, she lost. She was cutting the hair. And they took her to jail for cutting hair during the pandemic.
Stuart Rhodes
Yeah. The judge told her, you're going to shut down your salon or I'm going to put you, hold your contempt in court and put you in jail. And she said, do your worst.
Alex Stein
So it's ridiculous. Well, guys, coming up after the break, we're going to dive even deeper to Stuart's background. And we got to talk about the elephant in the room because I've gone after eye patch McCain a bunch and I hope I didn't offend the eyepatch community. We'll get Stuart's reaction after the break.
Stuart Rhodes
Welcome back to after hours on Real America's Voice.
Alex Stein
Welcome back, guys, to after hours with Alex Stein, right here on Real America's Voice. Now I gotta throw it back to my very good friends. These guys had my back, so thankful for them. Now I want to get your opinion. Even though we've gotten, you know, we've got a little bit of your background, but there's so much more to it. You know, you're incredibly accomplished, especially with your history protecting Shelley. We'll get into that. But I gotta ask you, you know, breaking news. Pam Bondi has been reassigned. Not. Not necessarily fired. So let's play this clip from Peter Doocy giving us a little breakdown on what happened to the Attorney General.
Stuart Rhodes
Kayleigh, I just got off the phone with President Trump. We have a big scoop. Pam Bondi will soon leave her job as the Attorney General. She is going to get a different
Alex Stein
job within the administration.
Stuart Rhodes
It doesn't sound like there is any bad blood between her and President Trump, but it does seem like they want her to go and do something else.
Alex Stein
And in an interim role, she will
Stuart Rhodes
be replaced by Todd Blanche, who is currently her deputy at the Justice Department. So it doesn't sound like Blanche is being elevated long term to the Attorney General. There might be somebody else that the
Alex Stein
President wants to go in there now. Stuart, what is your instant reaction to the news of Pam Bondi being reassigned?
Stuart Rhodes
Good riddance. Yeah, she's been horrible. So has Blanche, though. So hopefully that's just temporary report for pro forma and I'm hoping to get a good patriot in there. I think Ken Paxton would be great.
Alex Stein
Ken Paxton would be good. And then that would secure John Cornyn's role. I mean, that would help Cornyn out, but I don't like Cornyn either. But that would be kind of a win, win.
Stuart Rhodes
But it's most important to have a good Attorney General.
Alex Stein
I agree. I mean, that is definitely a more influential position. Even though Senator is a very important position. But yeah, I think Ken Paxton would be a great, you know, Attorney General for the United States. I think he's a great Attorney General for, you know, here in Texas now. Chad, what do you think? Are you Pam Bondi? Stan, are you a fan?
Chad Rogers
Because Absolutely not. Yeah, I was hoping for Sidney Powell. She did.
Alex Stein
Sidney Powell would be great. You guys are already giving great recommendations. But Sydney's been totally targeted and had her character defame.
Stuart Rhodes
Or Jeffrey Clark.
Alex Stein
Yeah, Jeffrey Clark. But I think Sidney Powell would be good, though. I actually like that because she's. She's one. She's brilliant, she's really smart and she's been, you know, railroaded. And I think that she's fearless. We need somebody that is. Has some balls. Even though Sydney's a woman, knows where
Chad Rogers
the bodies are buried.
Alex Stein
Yeah, she definitely does. But I mean, I saw her at cpac. Did you guys go to cpac? Yeah.
Stuart Rhodes
It was extremely pathetic.
Alex Stein
Yeah, it wasn't. It Wasn't as bumping as it normally is.
Stuart Rhodes
No.
Alex Stein
But Sydney was walking around and I got to talk to her, and I just felt like I almost. And I'm not trying to be disrespectful to City. It felt like I was talking to, like, a beaten wife a little bit. Like, you know, even though she had.
Stuart Rhodes
Oh, they came after.
Protester/Onlooker
Yeah.
Stuart Rhodes
I mean, I got to give her credit. She paid for my attorneys. She did, yes.
Alex Stein
So I love City Power. I'm Team Sydney Powell. But it's just. She just did not seem. Because I remember talking to her when she was on top and when she was, you know, you know, very vocal and still connected with everybody, and she just didn't. She seemed like she'd been hurt.
Stuart Rhodes
Yeah, well, she has been. I believe she's lost millions of dollars being persecuted. Yeah. So. But yeah, you want someone that's proved up. I like Tulsi because she's proved up.
Alex Stein
Well, there's rumors that she's gonna get fired.
Stuart Rhodes
She might, because she's. She's speaking the truth.
Alex Stein
Yeah.
Stuart Rhodes
I mean, Tulsi, I believe. I think Joe Kent's a hero.
Alex Stein
Yeah.
Stuart Rhodes
I think that Tulsi's team, and that includes Joe Kent, now, I say that is the core of America first in the Trump administration.
Alex Stein
Yeah. And it's crazy because Tulsi, you know, is left leaning. But honestly, one thing I will say, though, and I talked about this, you know, I'm so lucky I get to represent Turn Point, though. It's just so obvious that we have a uni party. You know what I mean? It's not right versus left. So even if somebody was kind of like, like Fetterman, I mean, some of the stuff he does. Annoying, but, like, you know, he's a dim, but he's kind of a little conservative.
Stuart Rhodes
Ish.
Alex Stein
Dim. So really, it's not the letter next to your name that really defines your character.
Stuart Rhodes
Well, her book was fantastic. I wrote a book in prison. It's called For Love of Country. And the subtitle is Leave the Democratic Party. That's what her book said. She walked away from the Democrat Party into Trump's administration for a reason. So I think she's. I think she's a patriot.
Alex Stein
Yeah, I do too.
Stuart Rhodes
Now, when it comes to pick for president next time.
Alex Stein
Well, so, you know, sadly, though, I'm kind of worried if AOC is the nominee, I'm gonna have to vote for her because she is my favorite big booty Latina. So I hope that.
Stuart Rhodes
Or run Tulsi, she's Hot, too.
Alex Stein
Anna Tulsi. But she's. What is. She's. What is she. She's Hawaiian or she's hot?
Stuart Rhodes
Come on, man.
Alex Stein
She's hot, but she's not as hot as aoc. You think? Who's hotter?
Stuart Rhodes
I can tell you Tulsi's hotter.
Alex Stein
You're already. You're already one of these guys that. That thinks Tulsi's hotter. And I mean this with all due respect. I have been one of the meanest people for Dan Crenshaw, and I called him Eyepatch McCain. And now I feel bad because now my good friend Stuart Rhodes has an eyepatch. So I feel like I've done damage to the eyepatch community. So do you accept my apology? I'm sorry for.
Stuart Rhodes
No, I don't. You don't need to apologize. Enrique called me Ricky. Charlo called me the bass Dan Crenshaw.
Alex Stein
And you like that?
Stuart Rhodes
Oh, yeah. It's completely cool.
Alex Stein
Okay, good.
Stuart Rhodes
I should have ran against him. I could have had a battle of the.
Protester/Onlooker
I know. Oh, my gosh. That actually would.
Alex Stein
Instead of Steve. Steve Toth. You would have been a great candidate. But Steve won. And I'm happy to, you know, that Dan Crenshaw is. But, you know, he's going to find his way to weasel in. Supposedly he's been meeting with Trump, and I don't care.
Stuart Rhodes
He's a seal. Who cares? Are you a constitutionalist? What do you do when it comes down to, you know, serving this country?
Alex Stein
Well, the fact that he's a seal, that's kind of my biggest complaint is that he's such a warmonger and he lost his eye defending this country, that he wants to send more young children to go lose their eye. So I think it's about this. You know, I just, you know, it's just very frustrating that Dan Crenshaw at one point was one of the more popular guys on Capitol Hill, and freaking now he's one of the most hated. And he. Remember we went viral with the Pete Davidson thing where he made fun of him. Then he got to go on Joe Rogan. He had all this energy, and he's been such a letdown.
Stuart Rhodes
Yeah, it's his votes. He's voted with the UNIT Party. That's the problem. And America first is tired of that.
Alex Stein
Yeah. And it just seems like a lot of these politicians don't want to put America first. Chad, what do you think about what's going. Going on in the world today? And all these politicians putting America last.
Chad Rogers
It's sign of The Times we have a color revolution that's going. Which is what we were attending this weekend. Yeah, this past weekend. And that color revolution is a real big deal. We've got major corporations that are funding this.
Alex Stein
The billionaires are funding it. Yeah.
Chad Rogers
And ex CIA agents running it. And Data Republican came out on X and did a really big data dump on everything. That's where this funding is coming from.
Alex Stein
And I like Data Republican, but what I saw that tweet, I didn't dive that deep, but I, I saw some billionaires funding it. What is it? Give us a little breakdown.
Chad Rogers
Billionaires, Ford Motor Company. We've got big corporations. A lot of the Democratic side that all these Democratic NGOs that got set up during Biden's administration, they're all still around funding and.
Stuart Rhodes
Yeah, it's a lot of associated with ccp.
Alex Stein
Yeah, yeah.
Stuart Rhodes
So you have a red. You know, the red green alliance is very real.
Alex Stein
Yeah.
Stuart Rhodes
Islam and communism.
Alex Stein
That's true.
Stuart Rhodes
Yeah. That's what we're seeing in the streets.
Alex Stein
And we were talking about this a little bit before the show, but you know, with this Iran war, I don't, I'm an anti war guy. But I will say that if Donald Trump purposely closed the straight of her moves to make the European Union and the Asian, you know, every country in Asia buy their oil and gas and energy from America, maybe he is playing 5D chess. I hope that's the case, but I don't know if that is. But I doubt it. Yeah, I doubt it. I doubt it. But maybe, you know, maybe you guys gets lucky and then he backdoors, you know, wins the game. Because we are in the. I would, I would say if we're 15 months in to his presidency, we're still at the beginning of the second quarter. So let's not, you know, there's been times where. Oh, so you don't agree we need
Stuart Rhodes
regime change right here.
Alex Stein
I know.
Stuart Rhodes
That's the problem is that they're not taking down the deep state here. And the deep state is doing the same thing this time as last time. Distract him. Last time was Covid. Now it's this war. Run the clock out until he's gone and they'll go right back to what they were doing. They're going to come throw me back in prison and come after everybody else.
Alex Stein
You're exactly right. I am worried about getting targeted. I mean, luckily I have not been yet. But I mean, once again, I'm not as influential. I don't lead 40, 000 patriots. And you know they're gonna come after you too. I know, I know people do say that. And, and you know, I do have a little bit of a following. But you, I, I think you are more influential in the ground game and that scares them. You know, somebody like you, they were
Stuart Rhodes
afraid of earth keepers and proud boys because we shut down Antifa all the
Alex Stein
time and they love Antifa. I mean, the fact that. Did Trump at least designate them a terrorist organization or does that still not happen?
Stuart Rhodes
He did. He called them, he called them a domestic terrorist organization which has no teeth. Yeah, the real teeth is calling them
Alex Stein
an international terrorist organization because they have the international funding.
Stuart Rhodes
Yeah. And they have international ties. They really are an international terrorist organization.
Alex Stein
And did you guys notice the guys at the rallies? And I actually have a video where they were protecting a drag queen. Story time. There was those guys in the green military outfits that had their guns there.
Stuart Rhodes
Oh yeah, yeah.
Alex Stein
But then they had pride flags.
Stuart Rhodes
Yeah, Antifa's arming. But all the trainings are training.
Alex Stein
Yeah, I know. And then the trainers are doing all the mass shootings. Oh my gosh, I'm really scared. I think it's the hormones that they're on there on all these medications that make them disconnected with reality. And then they're watching movies and they're watching the Internet content and they're desensitized to violence. They feel like being violent is okay, right?
Stuart Rhodes
Oh yeah. Well, they feel it justified. So. Yeah, I mean, you know, they're showing their shore footage in the streets and eventually it's going to go kinetic. It's going to happen.
Alex Stein
Would you think there'll be just massive like false flag attacks or. I mean, when you describe kinetic, what do you mean? It's going to take one rally and then it's next thing is be BLM or O'Reilly is on fire everywhere.
Stuart Rhodes
It depends. I mean they're always looking for their next. Their next George Floyd.
Alex Stein
They are.
Stuart Rhodes
They got that with the two. What? Good. And the other guy's name, I forgot his name now.
Alex Stein
Alex Predding. Right.
Stuart Rhodes
So they look for that. They put him out there as cannon fodder. They encourage crazy Karens to assault police officers and, and try to run them over. All of that is intentional. And then of course, when the officers react to what's happening to them, just like the other day with us, every non consensual touching is assault. So they're touching you all the time, trying to provoke you to push them back. And like with us, they try to get in between us. I'd move in between that guy and push against him.
Alex Stein
You had my back the whole time, Stuart.
Stuart Rhodes
I put my hand on your back
Alex Stein
and dude, yeah, you had your hand on my back, literally. And then, Stu, you are an intimidating looking guy. They didn't want to mess with you. They see your eye patch, they're like, oh, man, this guy mean serious business. So I think that was. That did help out a little bit. The eyepatch definitely gave me some credibility in that it helps.
Stuart Rhodes
He's the sleeper.
Alex Stein
I know. That's what I'm saying. Chad's not a big guy, but the guy knows freaking martial arts. He was. He was. I mean, he was the one that got arrested, so he was obviously kicking ass. You know, he's obviously doing something right.
Stuart Rhodes
That's how it goes in liberal dominated cities. We've seen it over and over again where the police are ordered to stand down, do nothing. We saw that in Portland and Berkeley, California. You or like what we saw, they turn a blind eye to the assaults by the lefties, but when you do anything, boom, they're on you.
Alex Stein
Well, I'm happy though, Chad, that they did drop your charges because they knew that they didn't want a big court case. And, you know, the DA knew that it would be impossible to probably convict you on something. Well, it wasn't him exactly. No, that's what I'm saying. We would have found the video. They knew that it wasn't you. I'm just saying I'm happy they came to their senses faster than making you have to spend hundreds of thousands of dollars on legal representation. Because that is a nightmare. I mean, how much. You said. You said Sidney Powell paid for your. But how was your.
Stuart Rhodes
Your.
Alex Stein
Your bill, roughly?
Stuart Rhodes
Oh, I didn't get bail.
Alex Stein
No, no, your bill. I know you didn't get bail, but, like, what do you think you spent on attorneys?
Stuart Rhodes
$100,000 at least, probably. Yeah.
Alex Stein
That's a lot of money, guys. Well, coming up. Coming up next after the break, we're gonna dive even deeper with these legends. I know some people are probably triggered, but if you're not triggered yet, you will be in the next break, so you don't want to miss it. Welcome back to After Hours with Alex Stein, right here on Real America's Voice. I'm with my personal savior. Not Jesus Christ. Jesus Christ is all of our savior, but my personal individual, human savior from this crazy rally, Stuart Rhodes. Stu, they got a lot to expect. I mean, we're about to give them some, you know, more footage of the left Going insane, I guess. Guys, just watch this, and then I want to get your opinion on how crazy things got at this no Kings rally.
Protester/Onlooker
That guy right there. Well, that's one of our guys. Little girls with their guns. Look at these little girls with their guns. Oh, you guys are so scary with your guns and your gay pride flag. You guys are the one that loves freaking children. You guys are the pedophiles. This. Everybody here is a vaccine injured idiot.
Alex Stein
I'm just a journalist.
Protester/Onlooker
Mostly led. Hey, look, the protest isn't moving. Where's it going? Why isn't it moving?
Alex Stein
Why is the protest not moving?
Protester/Onlooker
Why is it not moving? We got it. We got it. Look, the protest isn't even moving anymore, guy. Yay. New war. Look, we got. We got it. We got it shut down. We got this thing shut down. It's awesome. Look at this. No. We love Kamala Harris. We love Kamala Harris. Hey, we're having fun. We're having fun. Why aren't you guys marching anymore now? We're not marching anymore. What happened? I thought we're marching. Time to march. Why aren't we marching anymore? What happened to the march? Look, we got the news here, David.
Alex Stein
Why aren't they marching anymore? Why'd they stop marching?
Protester/Onlooker
I don't know. Maybe because I'm the people on the blimp. We got it shut down. Look at this. We got it shut all the way down. You guys can't even go. Just quit bumping into me. Guys, come on. Prime time. 99. Pimp on a blimp. We're allowed to be here. We're having a good time.
Stuart Rhodes
Do you bleed a gun?
Protester/Onlooker
Yeah, bleeding a gun. Okay. Do you believe in God? I have.
Alex Stein
What you're talking about.
Protester/Onlooker
I have no idea. You're vaccine injured, ma'. Am. Look at this guy. What is that? What is. Are you doing a Nazi salute? That's. We're having your teeth. This is. Now we're finally having fun. We're finally having fun. People, don't attack him for whatever reason. I haven't touched one woman. I'm the person. I'm the way to shut this thing down. Listen, man, this is a. This is. You know, when I come here, I'm dominate the protest. We dominate. I. I want to walk. I want to march. Let's march. Let's march. I'm okay with marching. We can march. This protest was boring. Now it's fun. So are you. Look at it now. Now we're having fun here. Now we're having some fun. Yeah. Pick Up, Gordon. This is what it's all about. This is what it's all about. You're the one. You're obsessed with pedophiles. You're obsessed with pedophiles. Your mustaches are pedophiles. Demonstration. We will not be intimidated by. You can't grow a mustache. You can't grow a mustache. You can't grow a mustache. You can't grow a mustache. You're in her way, bro. Why are you pushing me? I'm standing right here. Why are you pushing me? Don't tell me to move. Look at this. Look, we got it all shut down. Look at this, guys. God, dude, don't touch me.
Alex Stein
Quit.
Protester/Onlooker
Quit touching me. Hey, officer. Hey officer. These guys, they're just bumping. I know, but they're just bumping me. Bumping me. Hey, I'm going this way. We shut this hole down. We shut this thing down. Said you back. Hey, officer. No, officer, you're not going to do something. This guy, this guy keeps on hitting me. Protesting, baby. I know, but you're not. You can't grow mustard. You just made fun of mine. You touching me. You can't grow, dude. I mean this is such. This is ridiculous. Dude. I can't. I. I can't move cuz these guys keep. No, that guy, that Mexican dude keeps hitting me. No, I can't. I can't because they keep on hitting me. Why are you pushing? Hey, we're having fun. We're leading this protest. We're having a good time. We're having a great. You're an illegal alien. You're an illegal alien. You're an illegal alien. Dude, we run this thing. Parking lot now. Yeah. Yeah, that's it. That's why it slowed down. All because of me.
Alex Stein
Cuz we run this.
Protester/Onlooker
Look. We shut this thing down. You guys are obsessed with me. You guys. I'm the only thing you care about. I'm the only one you guys care about. You guys are a bunch of vaccinated idiots. Look at this. These people are retarded. They only know one thing. I mean, this is ridiculous. We're walking here. We're dominating this protest. You guys are vaccine injured. You guys are a bunch of losers. Nobody here has a job. Look at this. Only gay retards protest like this. This recording. We've been dominating this whole project. What's going on? We're having fun. We're dominating. We're dominating this protest. Why do you have a mask on? It's because she's ugly. Dude, you need a floss you need a flash. Get Carter. Get Carter on your knees. Easy, mustache. I heard y' all saw some violence in D.C. wow, I see a lot of violence. Oh, my God, bro, you just got back. We're leaving this protest. Everybody here is a recharge. We got a bunch of recharge here. Hey, don't. Don't touch
Alex Stein
me.
Protester/Onlooker
Dude. Quit hitting me, dude. Get the goons out the way. We're leading this protest. This is ridiculous. We're having a good time, you guys. Yeah, okay. There we go. You guys are about to recharge. Look at this. We're dominating this protest. Run this protest. We're leading it. You touch me.
Stuart Rhodes
Quit.
Protester/Onlooker
Quit touching me. Let's see.
Alex Stein
Let's see.
Protester/Onlooker
We can get in front of this thing.
Alex Stein
In front of him.
Protester/Onlooker
Let's see. We're leading this protest. It's prime time, 99, the pit bull and the flat. We're leading this. We run this thing. Look at this. What's gonna happen? Hey, we're running this. Good. Thank you, thank you. That's what I like to hear. Yes, dude. We're dominating this protest. We're dominating this. What happen? What happened to your teeth?
Stuart Rhodes
Hey, what the.
Protester/Onlooker
You have any tea? Wow. Now we're having fun. It's getting a little crazy out here. That's good. We needed to get a little spicy. We wanted spicy. Yeah, we wanted spicy.
Alex Stein
Wow, things are getting wild here now. That was some crazy stuff. It gets even crazier after the break. And I'm so mad. Stu did not give me my hyper whistle self defense whistle until after the protest.
Protester/Onlooker
Stuart, why did you give this to me now?
Alex Stein
Wow. I needed it then to blow it in their face.
Stuart Rhodes
I don't want you raped.
Alex Stein
Next time, the words the world's best rape whistle will we get even crazier after the break. Trust me, you guys don't want to miss it.
Protester/Onlooker
Foreign.
Alex Stein
Thank you guys so much for staying up late with us this evening. Right here on Real America's Voice, you're watching After Hours with Alex Stein. And you're asking yourself, alex, how do you have so much energy this late at night? I'll tell you, this is my secret right here. It's this elixir. It's called Soldier Fuel. And if you guys want to support an energy drink company that actually supports our veterans, we give a proceeds to all of our veterans out there. So you're not just supporting a company that's selling you a good drink that only has 5 calories and tastes delicious. You're actually helping out Our military vetch. And I'll give you. Please give. What do you guys think about this? This is. You guys are unbiased. You just walked in here. I'm gonna let the fellas tell you. How does it taste? It's good, isn't it? But I don't want to speak for you.
Stuart Rhodes
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Alex Stein
What do you think, Chad? You say something good?
Chad Rogers
Oh, absolutely. Usually drinks like this, you have this horrible aftertaste because it does not have it.
Alex Stein
And a lot of these. A lot of these ones that have weird erythritol in it. This doesn't have that. And that erythritol kind of gives me gas, so. This doesn't give you gas. It doesn't make. It doesn't have the. The bad artificial sweeteners in it. It has the good stuff, and it'll keep you up all night. It's helped me stay up all night tonight. Now we got to talk. We've talked all about the protest. I want to finally play a clip from it. We've been teasing it all episode. So this is me getting a corner, and, you know, you guys just helping out.
Protester/Onlooker
Cut it out. That guy right there. Well, that's one of our guys. I know you, too. I know you play our great. Hey, hey. This guy's throwing. You don't have a right to do this, dog. I don't have a right to protest.
Alex Stein
I think I. Well, that clip actually was pretty calm compared to all the drama because that's when Chad, unfortunately got hauled off by the popo. I mean, Chad, you were just unlucky to get even picked out of that crowd because there's a lot of crazy people. I don't know how you were the one that got picked out.
Chad Rogers
Well, again, I was dressed the same as one of my other officers that was their executive protection officers. And I'll tell you, you. Because this was a female that was dressed similar to me, I would do this again all day long. I would rather me go than her.
Alex Stein
Yeah.
Chad Rogers
Even though that, you know, and you
Alex Stein
did look official, though. I mean, I don't know if you can see your outfit. You did look like, you know, you were doing some serious executive protection. Like you had on the gloves you had on the whole outfit. And so I think that's kind of part of the reason they targeted you.
Stuart Rhodes
Body armor.
Alex Stein
Yeah, you had body armor. I mean, you were dressed to the nines, as they say. So I think that's one of the reasons that they targeted you because. Because, I mean, you didn't even punch the guy. It's ridiculous. And they were hitting us with signs. This is really one of the more calmer clips. And we played this one because there's so many cuss words that, you know, this one had as few cuss words as we could find. So just an unfortunate situation. Chad, I hope everything works out. You were unjustly, you know, taken away for 18 hours. You'll never get that time back. And you did get to go viral, but nobody wants to go viral for going to jail, especially for something you didn't do. Right, I know. That's what I'm saying. I mean, it would have been great if you got it to go viral for. For. I mean, I'm a little selfish. I got to go viral, and Enrique went viral and Stuart went viral, and we didn't go to jail. So it was kind of fun for me and Stuart. Now it's so much you, but I hate that that happened to you. But everything ended up working out okay. Not great, but okay.
Stuart Rhodes
Charges are dropped. Yeah, that's good.
Alex Stein
That is good. And they should have been dropped. They should have never even happened. I mean, it was absolutely ridiculous that that happened, especially when they were the ones that were violent. You were just basically, you didn't even punch the guy. But I'm saying we were just reacting to their violence, and we didn't even react to their level. So it's just, you know, you got a. The Dallas pd, they had. They were looking for somebody to go after. And of course, they're not going to arrest one of those, you know, liberal people because that's just not their ammo.
Stuart Rhodes
They're allowed to push up against you all they want, which is assault, but as soon as you push back, then the cops are stepping in.
Alex Stein
Yeah, it's ridiculous. It's like I say it all the time. It's like football. It's always the second guy that punches that gets the flag. You know, somebody always punches you in the stomach or something. It's the second guy that retaliates Gates that ends up going and getting the 15 yard penalty. Now, we have talked a lot about Swalwell, you know, getting with a Chinese spy. And allegedly it was Eric Swalwell is the reason that Pam Bondi lost her job, because Pam Bondi tipped Eric Swalwell off about the potential prosecution from Cash Patel. Now, you have been critical of Cash Patel, but if he did go after Swalwell, that would Be at least, you
Stuart Rhodes
know, positive silver lining in his treaty. But I consider him a traitor. A reason why is that he has framed an innocent man. Brian Cole.
Alex Stein
Yes.
Stuart Rhodes
To cover for the deep.
Alex Stein
I mean, and just to be fair, I think it's obvious that Shawnee Kirchhoff was there, not just from the how they did the AI gate or they tested the gate and they could see that every time you walk that, you know, walk two meter or whatever is two feet. You know, they can use artificial intelligence to basically match how you walk. And I thought that was pretty damning. But the fact that there's an FBI document saying that they talked to her CIA handler and that she also failed a polygraph test. Yeah, that's pretty egregious.
Stuart Rhodes
So I guess I wonder who she was working for on January 6th. Obviously it was a CIA. CIA operation. That's what I think.
Alex Stein
I definitely think the CIA was involved. We know there was FBI agents that were involved. So, you know, I wouldn't put a passion for the CIA.
Protester/Onlooker
No.
Stuart Rhodes
Like Chad said earlier, this is what they do all over the world. And they did it here at home. Home. It was their version of regime change.
Alex Stein
It was now, Chad, we. We gotta go. But real quick, before we actually give our outros, I want to give a shout out to Angel Studios. Let's play this promo. I love Angel Studios. They've always, you know, promoted and supported the pimp on a blimp. So let's watch this little promo before we go.
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Alex Stein
Everybody go to angel.com rav and go support Angel Studios. We love the work they're doing now. Okay, fellas, before we get out of here, how can people support you? We talked about the Gibson Go. Everybody go to gives ingo.com oath. But you also got kicked off of X. I thought Elon Musk brought Free Speech back.
Stuart Rhodes
I thought so, too, but apparently not mine. So somewhere, you know.
Alex Stein
So since you got out of jail, they deleted your Twitter?
Stuart Rhodes
Yeah, so I first got out, I started a personal one that got suspended. Did like two months ago, I started another one. I was doing fine. And then bam, two days ago, they kicked that one out, too.
Protester/Onlooker
Wow.
Alex Stein
You need to get back on there. And I know it sucks to build something up and have it taken away, but, I mean, maybe I'll try to talk to. I don't know that many people at X, but maybe I do. Well, Chad, and how can people support you? Because I know that you had your life turned upside down because of this false prosecution, but what's the best way people can help you out?
Chad Rogers
Right now? There's nothing to do. I'm still waiting on some other things. I have two jobs, so this, you know, the executive producer.
Alex Stein
So you're okay financially? You're not okay. So you don't need any donations or anything? Okay, that's good. So. So. But Stuart does. And Stuart is a patriot. So if you guys want to support him, go to gibsongo.com oath and help out Stuart. Now, Stuart, what else you want to promote? Because, you know, I mean this from the bottom of my heart, I would have gone. Probably gotten really seriously hurt at that protest if you weren't behind me with your eye patch, just mogging. Everybody there, they were scared to death of you. I mean, I remember when I first turned around, I was a little scared.
Protester/Onlooker
I was like, that's Stuart Rhodes.
Alex Stein
You know, I didn't expect. I just didn't see you. I saw Chad, but then I didn't see Stuart was right behind me because you touched me on my back. I thought it was, you know, antifa or something, and I'm like, oh, okay, there's Stuart. You know, I was a little shook just at first, but then, you know, you had my back the whole time, and I appreciated that. And like I said, I owe you guys a debt of gratitude. And even more than that, it's our
Stuart Rhodes
duty to defend Free Speech.
Alex Stein
Well, I appreciate that. And if you guys support me, then go support Stuart, because I really would appreciate that, and I know Stuart would Appreciate that. And what's the best way people can find you, Stuart, now that you're not on edge?
Stuart Rhodes
I'm still on substats. They can go to stewartroads.substack calm.
Alex Stein
Okay, go to the substack and go subscribe to that right now on Rumble too.
Stuart Rhodes
It's ok. Stewart Rhodes.
Alex Stein
Okay, now I want to do something before we go. Let's talk about. We've talked a lot about black pill politics. What, what is some good things that we can look forward to right now because it is all doom and gloom or is there any positive things that we can be on the lookout for?
Stuart Rhodes
I think there's a mass awakening happening in this country. And I also say this is a mass Christian revival, but it's the right kind. Like, right, this is, this is a Crusader coin from 13.
Alex Stein
Well, I hate these, these prosperity gospels. But I'm saying these prosperity God, they're almost worse than a Satanist like Aleister Crowley. Because Aleister Crowley, you at least know he's a Satanist. And that's what I'm saying. These wolves in sheep clothing is worse because they're the ones that are making people tithe more than 10%. You know, I'm saying they're, they're, they're
Stuart Rhodes
false prophets and just sit and sit and do nothing. And Christ commanded us to occupy and do like the founding fathers did, the black robe regiment. They led the revolution from the pulpit. We need that kind of Christian. That's what we need.
Alex Stein
I agree. We don't need any more Joel Osteens or, you know, TD Jakes doing all kinds of weird stuff.
Stuart Rhodes
We need Christian warriors.
Alex Stein
Well, guys, you have a great weekend. We're going to be back on Monday. I really appreciate you guys watching. And if you want to support RAV and not just support these guys, but you want to support us too. Real America's voice is also getting into the music business. We are having a lot of success. We got another viral song. This one is from Rachel Holt. It's called Ammunition. Well, it hasn't gone viral yet. Actually, I'm reading the thing. It is a promo for the song that we're about to release. So, yeah, it has not gone viral, but I guarantee you it will because it's a great song. I'm going to be sharing it. All the other RAV hosts are going to be sharing it and we would appreciate it if you shared it and listened to it because it's music that's not meant to indoctrinate you into some sort of Satanist cult. And that is the difference between us and the current music industry that is basically affecting a lot of young people's minds. So if you guys support us, support Rachel Holt and her new song Ammunition.
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Protester/Onlooker
Knock me, tear me, rock me, mow me down? Load your words? Take your aim and take me out? Keep on shooting and missing if it makes you feel strong? And I'll keep stocking up on ammunition? Holy.
Episode Date: April 3, 2026
Host: Alex Stein
Guests: Stuart Rhodes (Oath Keepers founder), Chad Rogers (executive protection agent)
This episode dives into the culture war flashpoints and current political dynamics as seen through the eyes of unapologetic personalities from the American right. Host Alex Stein is joined by Stuart Rhodes, recently released Oath Keepers founder, and Chad Rogers, his personal security, to unpack recent protests, the aftermath of January 6, the state of the justice system, election disputes, mainstream and alternative media, political firings, and the changing landscape of American values. Throughout the episode, the group recounts direct action at a volatile protest, reflects on their personal legal challenges, and criticizes mainstream narratives, while offering a perspective rooted in skepticism of established institutions.
| Timestamp | Speaker | Quote or Moment | |-----------|---------------------|---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| | 01:07 | Alex Stein | “...Today we're honored to welcome a true American patriot and constitutional defender, Stuart Rhodes...” | | 06:00 | Chad Rogers | “They just said, investigator, looked at the footage and saw it was me.” | | 08:46 | Stuart Rhodes | “It was illegal. They violated state election law in all the swing states. That triggered a violation of Article 2.” | | 10:16 | Stuart Rhodes | “They used Covid as their mechanism for the coup and also all the other stuff that came with it.” | | 13:50 | Stuart Rhodes | “Good riddance. Yeah, she's been horrible.” (about Pam Bondi) | | 15:13 | Alex Stein | “...I felt like I was talking to, like, a beaten wife... she just didn't. She seemed like she'd been hurt.” | | 17:19 | Alex Stein | “I have been one of the meanest people for Dan Crenshaw... now my good friend Stuart Rhodes has an eyepatch.” | | 22:32 | Stuart Rhodes | “They're touching you all the time, trying to provoke you to push them back.” | | 23:01 | Stuart Rhodes | “That's how it goes in liberal dominated cities... police are ordered to stand down, do nothing...” | | 42:05 | Stuart Rhodes | “They're allowed to push up against you all they want, which is assault, but as soon as you push back, then the cops are stepping in.” | | 47:25 | Stuart Rhodes | “I think there's a mass awakening happening in this country. And I also say this is a mass Christian revival, but it's the right kind.” |
The episode is candid, combative, and irreverent—satirical at times, often blending gallows humor with open taunts and frank, sometimes coarse language. There is a deliberate disregard for “PC” boundaries, with the host and guests expressing intense distrust of mainstream narratives and institutions, and positioned as embattled defenders of what they see as American and constitutional values. Banter, ribbing, and self-deprecation mix with real frustration and sometimes resentment toward perceived enemies in media, politics, and protest movements.
In this “After Hours” episode, Alex Stein, Stuart Rhodes, and Chad Rogers provide a no-holds-barred exposé of life on the front lines of right-wing activism and media. From the chaos at street protests to legal battles and intraparty fighting in Washington, they blend war stories, constitutional commentary, and biting satire. At its core, the discussion is one of alienation from mainstream power and resilience in forging new platforms, all while hoping for a revival of populist Christian values and ‘America First’ leadership. For listeners—especially those outside this ideological bubble—the episode serves as a raw insight into the narratives, anxieties, and humor shaping large swaths of the American right in 2026.