AFTER HOURS WITH ALEX STEIN - March 30th, 2026

Summary

AFTER HOURS WITH ALEX STEIN – March 30, 2026 (Real America’s Voice / iHeartPodcasts)

Episode Summary & Highlights

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Episode Overview

Broadcasting live from CPAC in Dallas, Texas, Alex Stein hosts a fast-paced, irreverent, and combative episode featuring interviews, grassroots color commentary, and satirical takes on current conservative issues. The episode’s main theme revolves around the state of the conservative movement, intra-party friction, pop culture, gender and identity debates, and loyalty to “America First” values—with signature Stein humor and theatricality throughout. Notably, the episode includes high-energy man-on-the-street segments, interviews with key candidates (Brandon Herrera, Mark Lynch), conservative movement figures (Enrique Tarrio, Jerry Brooks, Bo French), and detransitioner advocates, as well as biting commentary on both party insiders and mainstream media.

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Key Discussion Points & Segment Breakdown

1. CPAC on the Ground: Setting the Scene

• [02:04] Alex introduces the event from CPAC in Dallas—describing it as one of the “biggest conservative political events in the country.” Personality-driven, the show aims to provide unfiltered access, roam the venue, and highlight both high-profile and everyday participants.

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2. GOP Primary Battles & Critique of Party Insiders

Interview: Brandon Herrera (Congressional Candidate, Texas) [02:39]

• Herrera discusses replacing Tony Gonzalez and running against an opponent Herrera characterizes as “very large” and anti-2A, pro-child drag shows, and “not anything actual Texans will support.”
• Brandon Herrera: “We're in an R +7 district, but you never want to get too complacent… We've just stepped in and started doing the job already, just advocating to the White House, to DHS on behalf of the district.” [02:39]
• Guns and “culture war” issues front and center. Alex quips about “amnesty for big booty Latinas” as a recurring gag.
• Alex: “Are you going to give amnesty to big booty Latinas? Because I think if you're a nine, you're fine.” [03:36]
• Herrera jokes, “We'll talk to you about it when we get there.” [03:41]

Interview: Mark Lynch (Senate Candidate, SC) [04:06]

• Criticizes Lindsey Graham for being a “closeted homosexual” and claims Graham is more interested in foreign wars than local constituents.
• Mark Lynch: “He has a blood lust, a sick war monger’s heart… He’s all about war… his other nickname, Gramnesty, Glamnesty.” [06:02]
• Lynch frames his campaign through Christian family values, business acumen, and ties to Roger Stone and Trump strategy.
• Mark Lynch: “We bring a great present to our country with the removal of a traitor.” [07:41]

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3. Pop Culture, Satire, and Race

• Alex employs provocative, often intentionally offensive humor. Ongoing jokes about “big booty Latinas,” race, and identity politics; makes light of conservative talking points and turns them on their head.
• Alex on AOC: “Look at that booty on aoc. That's my favorite big booty.” [01:34]
• Exchanges with black and Iranian-American attendees at CPAC, satirizing tokenism and challenging stereotypes.
• Alex: “You'll never catch a black person doing a school shooting. You know, because they don't really go to school.” [08:54] (Satirical, edgy humor).

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4. Gender, Detransitioners, and Culture Wars

Interview: Detransition Advocates [33:01–38:16]

• Claire Abernathy (detransitioner) & Simon Amaya Price (detransitioner and activist) share personal stories of transitioning and detransitioning, parental and therapist involvement, and hostile backlash from LGBTQ+ advocates.
• Claire: “...when I was 13 and a half, almost 14, they took me to a therapist… who told them that all of these other issues that I had, my eating disorder and my self harm, were because I was actually a boy and they wouldn't affirm me.” [34:50]
• Discuss harassment and death threats received for their public advocacy against gender ideology.
• Claire: “It's a cult, and we are apostates, and so they can't have that.” [36:17]
• Simon has worked to support others leaving transition and passing bills to restrict youth gender medical interventions: “I've directly had probably 5D transition.” [37:12]

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5. Conservative Movement Infighting & Realignment

Interview: Enrique Tarrio (Proud Boys leader) [15:58–26:46]

• Tarrio discusses being denied CPAC access, factional infighting, and criticism of “gatekeepers” like Josh Hammer, who he accuses of dividing the MAGA coalition.
• Enrique Tarrio: “This guy that wasn’t a Trumper is trying to gatekeep what our movement is.” [18:11]
• Predicts future realignment: “All they're doing is creating the next movement in conservatism… very, very, they're not very pro Israel in these cases. They have a view on foreign policy.” [21:30]
• Debate on the Trump/Proud Boys “stand back, stand by” moment:
  • Tarrio: “I didn't really take it as a rally cry, but I did take it as, hey, stand by me. And we have. And I have. I've stood by the President.” [22:11]
• Tarrio predicts Republican losses in the midterms and a symbolic Trump impeachment, ultimately seeing it as a rallying event for the base.
  • “Impeachment doesn't really mean anything. Democrats have already taken the meaning out of impeachment.” [24:00]
• Promotes his forthcoming memoir and candidly discusses prison and movement loyalty.

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6. CPAC Grassroots Vibe: Family, Diversity, and Protest

• Alex’s father, Harold Stein, shares his impressions of CPAC:
  • Notes diversity of attendees and “weird” presence of Iranian protesters. [27:26–28:39]
• Ben Berkwam (RAV Media) and Bo French (Texas Conservative/Regulator Runoff Candidate):
  • Comment on protest culture and dangers of complacency. [29:19–32:45]
  • French pushes back on regulation and “fake conservatives,” plans a major campaign party with prominent Texas figures.

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7. Satirical Social Critique & Fox News Jabs

• Frequent shots at Fox News (“just boomer bullcrap”).
• COVID-19/vaccine misinformation used for comic effect.
  • Alex: “I posted on Facebook that if you got the vaccine, it would turn you gay. That's not true. If you got vaccinated, you were already gay to start with. That's the order of operations, guys.” [14:13]

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8. Representation and Black Conservatism

Interview: Jerry Brooks (Black Conservative Podcaster) [41:13–48:54]

• Brooks offers his experience as a black conservative; reflects on the influence of Thomas Sowell and difficulties in the movement.
  • “In the early years, yeah, it was hard… But then I realized over the years, coming up... really learning from some of the great minds.” [44:31]
• Lively debate on the “hottest congresswoman,” humor about masculinity, and the importance of loyalty and family values.
• Brooks underscores generational legacy (“Tar Heel born, Tar Heel bred…”) and has fun with Fox, AI, and “in black and right” branding.

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9. U.S. Foreign Policy, the Draft & Veterans

Interview: Tom Morrissey (Vietnam Vet) [49:17–50:27]

• Proud to have served, advocates for a military draft for national experience, but would exclude women from combat roles due to POW concerns.

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10. Citizen Journalism & Grassroots Media

• [50:52] Michael Casey describes viral moment interviewing Mike Lindell as Lindell is served court papers live at CPAC.
• Ashley Holland promotes citizen journalism work with the James O’Keefe Media Group.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Mark Lynch: “Poly means many and ticks are blood sucking parasites. And that's what this game is.” [05:09]
• Enrique Tarrio: “I have a level of loyalty to the president… that doesn't mean his appointees don't get the brunt of… my criticism.” [18:43]
• Alex Stein: “Neither parent wanted me because I was that bad. And so what I learned was, is that dogs have races. Yeah… Chihuahuas are obviously Mexican… pit bulls are obviously black people…” [11:45]
• Claire Abernathy: “It's a cult, and we are apostates, and so they can't have that. We sort of challenge the idea that kids 100% of the time know who they are…” [36:17]
• Alex Stein (recurring): “If you’re a nine, you’re fine. If you’re an eight, we don’t need an immigration debate. If you’re a seven… oh, thank heaven.” [13:31]

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Useful Timestamps

• [02:39] Brandon Herrera interview (guns, Texas politics)
• [04:06] Mark Lynch interview (Graham critique, foreign policy)
• [15:58] Enrique Tarrio interview (movement, Trump, infighting)
• [27:26] Alex’s Father reflects on first CPAC
• [30:54] Bo French interview (oil industry, Texas politics)
• [33:01] Detransitioners’ stories
• [41:13] Jerry Brooks interview (black conservatism, movement)
• [49:17] Tom Morrissey on draft, women in military
• [50:52] Mike Lindell served live/interview with O’Keefe Media Group

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Episode Tone and Takeaways

• Energetic, irreverent, provocative: Alex Stein’s trademark style runs throughout, veering between performance art, social satire, political outrage, and open mockery of opponents both right and left.
• Insider/outsider friction: The episode highlights generational and ideological divides within the conservative coalition, with criticism both of establishment “gatekeepers” and progressive adversaries.
• A focus on culture and identity: Identity politics, gender, race, and representations of masculinity are persistent through-lines, often delivered through biting or taboo-pushing jokes.
• Calls for activism: Repeated appeals for activism (“show up and vote!”) and protection of core conservative industries (guns, oil) underscore the sense of urgency Stein and his guests want to convey.
• Real America’s Voice branding: Several reminders to eschew legacy media, embrace alternative networks, and “watch Real America’s Voice.”

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Conclusion

This episode offers a high-octane, often controversial snapshot of the current American conservative movement, as seen through the no-filter lens of Alex Stein at CPAC Dallas. It combines campaign insight, culture war flashpoints, and both self-mocking and hard-hitting commentary—punctuated by interviews with activist outsiders, candidate insiders, and a rotating cast of colorful characters.

Transcript

[Alex Stein]

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[After Hours announcer / narrator]

When the lights go down, the truth comes out.

[Alex Stein]

Tucker, you are not the father.

[Co-host or guest commentator]

This has to be wrong.

[After Hours announcer / narrator]

After Hours with Alex Stein. No filter.

[Alex Stein]

If it was okay to have anal sex, no apologies. You were talking about things that probably you shouldn't talk about.

[After Hours announcer / narrator]

The undisputed king of trolling.

[Co-host or guest commentator]

I finally had my own show.

[Alex Stein]

That one point. Your ancestors own slaves.

[After Hours announcer / narrator]

They tried to cancel us.

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[Alex Stein]

He wants to kill babies. But she's still beautiful. Look at that booty on aoc. That's my favorite big booty.

[After Hours announcer / narrator]

Latina politics, culture, hypocrisy.

[Alex Stein]

They want them to have their penises

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cut off uncensored and uncontrolled.

[Co-host or guest commentator]

That's what I'm saying. They admit they want to cut people's penises off.

[After Hours announcer / narrator]

Late night just got dangerous. After Hours with your host, Alex Stein starts right now.

[Alex Stein]

Hey, guys, you're watching After Hours with Alex Stein live from CPAC right here in Dallas, Texas. We got Rick Grinnell on stage, but we're going to walk around, do some interviews and show you what it's really like to see one of the biggest conservative political events in the country. You don't want to miss it. We got a great show for you. Okay. We're with the legend Brandon Herrera, the guy that defeated Tony Gonzalez, even though Tony Gonzalez was an embarrassment and had to resign. So, Brandon, I know you're running against a huge woman, like, literally she is very large. Are you worried because you're trying to be humble? Don't be humble. What do you want to tell the people that might be on the fence? About voting for you.

[Brandon Herrera]

We're in an R +7 district, but you never want to get too complacent, you know, always fight like you're behind. That being said, I mean, we're already looking. I mean, as you said, the congressman that I'm replacing is basically can't be really seen anymore. So he's not doing a lot of the constituent services and he's not representing the district well, not like he was before, but especially egregiously now. So we've just stepped in and started doing the job already a little bit, just advocating to the White House, to DHS on behalf of the district on things that are important. And you know what? We're going to keep doing that until November. And then, I mean, at that point, we become the incumbent, then we get to do the job anyway.

[Co-host or guest commentator]

And if you guys want to keep

[Alex Stein]

your guns, this is why you vote for Brandon Herrera. Because your opponent, she's going to try to take the guns away, right? Oh, yeah.

[Brandon Herrera]

Very much into the. She's very anti two a very much pro child drag shows, just not. Not anything that actual Texans will support. So I'm looking forward to winning in November and then continuing to. Again,

[Alex Stein]

when you get in office, are you going to give amnesty to big booty Latinas? Because I think if you're a nine, you're fine.

[Brandon Herrera]

I know that's a big, important issue to you. We'll talk to you about it when we get there.

[Co-host or guest commentator]

I said not answer, but I'll take

[Alex Stein]

it because Brandon's my friend. I think I can convince him. All right, guys, everybody go vote for Brandon Herrera for Congress. He's a true champion and a defic defender of your 2A rights that we all deserve. Appreciate it, brother. Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, we're here with Senate candidate Mark lynch, who's running against a closeted homosexual named Lindsey Graham. Can you tell us a little bit about Lindsey Graham?

[Mark Lynch]

Wow. Do you know, I think everybody knows he is. That's how Liz has been out for years.

[Alex Stein]

Lady G. I know. So.

[Co-host or guest commentator]

So tell the South Carolinians that actually

[Alex Stein]

want a guy that's not, you know, in the closet doing freaky deaky stuff, why they should vote for you over him.

[Mark Lynch]

It's like last. Last CPAC at DC One of the interviewers said, what's the biggest difference between you and Lindsay? And I said, see that lady over there? I pointed to my wife. I said, that's my wife of 37 years. Lindsey knows nothing about that. But yeah, you know, we tell people, you know, how Are you going to beat Lindsey? I told a crowd one time at a presentation to a GOP group at one of the counties in our great state of South Carolina, Lindsey's just a man. And one of the gentlemen in the audience said, I don't know that I would call him that. But he's beatable, right?

[Alex Stein]

He is. But, you know, and I think that right now though, it seems weird that he was basically a never Trumper and now he's Trump likes him. Isn't that so weird? I find that very hard to believe that Trump actually likes him.

[Mark Lynch]

Right? And South Carolinians are questioning that. And that question comes up all the time. The South Carolinians are in disgust. How could Trump endorse him after Lindsey stabs him in the back every chance he gets? And I tell him, you know the word politics, when we break that apart, poly means many and ticks are blood sucking parasites. And that's what this game is. And Trump knows how to win. And I think he needed his endorsement over Lindsey to make sure he got his vote for the big beautiful bill because Lindsey will drag a couple other senators with him and we've got a lean Senate majority. So Trump has to do what he has to do.

[Alex Stein]

You know, that's the best answer I've heard. Okay, last question that we love South Carolina. It's such a great state. From Charleston to Columbia, usc, I spent a lot of time there. Why does Lindsey Graham care more about foreign affairs than he cares about the South Carolinians?

[Mark Lynch]

He has a blood lust, a sick war monger's heart. He lusts for blood. He's all about war. And I know two of his biggest contributors in the military industrial complex is Boeing and Lockheed Martin. And so he's all about starting more wars. But while he's been doing that across the oceans, away from South Carolina and away from America, everybody's asking now what are we doing with these sleeper cells in America that we've let come in here? When Lindsey was for open borders and granting amnesty to all illegal aliens, you know, deserving. His other nickname, Gramnesty Glamnesty.

[Alex Stein]

I like that nickname. Okay, last thing, Mr. Lynch, tell the people why they should vote for you.

[Mark Lynch]

Because I'm a real true conservative patriot. I'm an ordained deacon, I'm married for 37 years. We have two children, four grandchildren, and I'm a successful businessman like Trump. We've been debt free in our 74th year of our company's business. My father started and I've run it the last 40 years. Grown it 35 times with God at the center. And when we came into this campaign, I talked to Roger Stone and he said Trump will want to see two things. Your polling and how much skin you have in the game. And my wife and I, right there, we prayed and we pushed $5 million of our retirement funds to jumpstart lynch for Senate campaign. We're for real. It's going down on our 250th birthday of our country. And we bring a great present to our country with the removal of a traitor.

[Alex Stein]

Say bye bye, Lindsey Graham. You got a real freaking competitor finally in the arena. So you better say your prayers. We got a deacon coming for you.

[Mark Lynch]

Amen.

[Alex Stein]

Has the coolest hat. So can you tell us about the hat?

[Enrique Tarrio]

I bought this hat at Trump Tower, Manhattan, New York.

[Alex Stein]

That's a beautiful hat, and it's good, but are you bald underneath it? No. You have hair. Okay.

[After Hours announcer / narrator]

Boom.

[Alex Stein]

He has hair. So he's wearing it not because he has to, but by choice. Thank you so much. God bless.

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Did you know that we.

[Alex Stein]

Did you know that we flew all the way in from Taiwan?

[Co-host or guest commentator]

No way.

[Alex Stein]

Are you guys worried, though? Is China gonna attack you? It's impossible for them to realize their dream of unification.

[Enrique Tarrio]

No way.

[Alex Stein]

Zero percent chance. Yeah.

[Enrique Tarrio]

No way.

[Alex Stein]

But now all of our. I'm worried. Our big aircraft carriers are down. What if you guys need them? What if we need our support? There's no chance for China to launch a military invasion. No chance. Good. Good news. Thank you. MAGA for life. Thank you so much.

[Co-host or guest commentator]

Let me hear you make some noise. She back. Let's go.

[Alex Stein]

I like you the one black person here. I'm happy to see you.

[Co-host or guest commentator]

I love token black.

[Jerry Brooks]

I love that.

[Alex Stein]

Oh, my gosh. I love black people. You guys are the best. You'll never catch a black person doing a school shooting. You know, because they don't really go to school. But that's neither here nor there. That's not. You probably went to school. You probably went to school. Guys, if you don't know who I am, I'm Primetime 99. Alex Stein, the pimp on a plant. Always eating steak and shrimp. A lot of people don't realize this, but I'm Tucker Carlson's biological stepson. It's been tough. Ever since my dad got fired by Fox News, we've been having to work for guitar.

[Iranian American participant]

What?

[Alex Stein]

Don't laugh. Come on. Are you gonna laugh now that I made fun of you? I feel like now you're filming. You know how this woman's black? She's the only one filming on an iPad. You know what I mean? I've never even seen that. She doesn't have a cell phone. She's got an iPad. Okay?

[Co-host or guest commentator]

And I want to talk about something

[Alex Stein]

that's near and dear to my heart. We're all conservatives here.

[Co-host or guest commentator]

Is that right?

[Alex Stein]

We're conservatives.

[Co-host or guest commentator]

So I gotta ask you guys, what

[Alex Stein]

do you guys think about transgenders in women's sports? Do you guys like that? Boom.

[Co-host or guest commentator]

Okay, listen here, you idiots. We can gamble on these transgenders and win money. Imagine Shaquille o' Neal in a dress, just dunking on these WNBA ladies. I won so much money with Lia Thomas propeller in that pool, I turned draft kings into draft queens. Now I'm sick of conservatives trying to

[Alex Stein]

be, you know, a little boxed in. Okay, who here loves Charlie Kirk? Give it up for Charlie Kirk. I love Charlie Kirk. And I'm so sick and tired of all of these liberals that say Charlie Kirk was racist.

[Co-host or guest commentator]

They say that because there was a

[Alex Stein]

time when Charlie Kirk said that he would be hesitant to get on a plane if he noticed he had a black pilot. But I disagree. I love it when I see a black pilot because that means I can smoke weed on the plane. And who here's on Delta 9? Anybody here at Delta 9? Before that's just a transgender version of weed. Do not smoke that. Gonna wake up and not gonna wa makeup. You're gonna die because it has fentanyl in it. That's why.

[Co-host or guest commentator]

No, but I'm just. I love transgender so much because I

[Alex Stein]

think that they would be great in the military. Who wants transgenders in the military?

[Co-host or guest commentator]

What, you guys don't want them? Okay, why are you guys not thinking outside the box?

[Alex Stein]

First reason transgenders would be great in the military. They're mean as hell. You guys want some soldier? That's nice. No. Second reason, transgenders love to do mass shootings.

[Co-host or guest commentator]

They've done eight out of the last 10 mass shootings. Do you guys only watch Fox News? Fox News is just boomer bullcrap. You guys need to turn that off.

[Alex Stein]

You need to watch real America's Voice.

[Co-host or guest commentator]

Give it up for real America's Voice.

[Alex Stein]

We got no transgenders on our station.

[Co-host or guest commentator]

Zero.

[Alex Stein]

They're not allowed. But, guys, before I was a pimp on a blimp. You might not know this. I used to be a substitute school teacher until I got fired teaching crt. This one's for you. I took the kids on a field trip, and I made two big mistakes. First mistake, I didn't get any parental waivers signed. Second mistake is I took all the students to a plantation. I made the white ones pick cotton, though.

[Co-host or guest commentator]

Black one just sat in the big house and drank lemonade.

[Alex Stein]

You like that one though, right? Tell my boss I don't want him to fire me.

[Co-host or guest commentator]

No, no, don't fire me, Rob.

[Alex Stein]

Oh, gosh, I'm gonna lose my job.

[Co-host or guest commentator]

Thanks a lot.

[Alex Stein]

There are a couple things I want to leave you guys on. You know, I am very unique person, right? I wear tuck friendly bathing suits at city council. Have you guys ever seen that before? Takes a while to tuck it. I'm big, you know what I mean? Sick of having to untuck it. That's the worst part. But one thing about my childhood that I look back and I just kind of, you know, realize why I am this way is that when my parents got divorced, they actually fought for custody of our family dog, Primo more than they fought for custody of me. Neither parent wanted me because I was that bad. And so what I learned was, is that dogs have races. Yeah. Like for example, Chihuahuas are obviously Mexican. Yo, Kiera. Taco Bell golden retrievers are obviously white people because they behave the best. And pit bulls are obviously black people because pit bulls are 13% of the dog, but they commit 76% of the dog assaults. Thank you. See, she agrees with me. I love this. And we give it up for her.

[Co-host or guest commentator]

But I just want to give a

[Alex Stein]

big shout out to McDonald's. Who here likes McDonald's, right?

[Co-host or guest commentator]

Okay.

[Alex Stein]

No, you guys are lying. I see a bunch of fat people here. We all love McDonald's. Let's not stop pretend. But our president was the greatest McDonald's employee ever. Donald J. Trump. Give it up for him. If it wasn't for Kamala Harris Lying about McDonald's and committing stolen McVowor, I don't know if Donald Trump would be president today.

[Co-host or guest commentator]

I think stolen McVow is worse than stolen valor.

[Alex Stein]

Anybody can join the military. Not anybody can work at McDonald's. You know what I mean? Now we're having a good time tonight. I really enjoy everybody at cpac. I've just had so much fun. Have you guys had fun?

[Co-host or guest commentator]

But one thing that I'm mad about,

[Alex Stein]

we're here in Texas.

[Co-host or guest commentator]

Where are my big booty Latinas at? Be not. It's quiet, it's crickets. And I'm sick of a Bovino and a Homan trying to kick out my big booty Latinas.

[Alex Stein]

I want amnesty for all big booty Latinas.

[Co-host or guest commentator]

If you're a nine, you are fine.

[Alex Stein]

How does that sound.

[Co-host or guest commentator]

If you're an eight, we don't need an immigration debate. If you're a seven.

[Alex Stein]

Oh, thank heaven. You barely made it in. All right. If you're a 6, you can go kick bricks. That's how I feel. I want to leave you guys with something very emotional. Thank you. Keep clapping for me.

[Co-host or guest commentator]

Laugh louder, because this is the best booth in this whole entire conference right here.

[Alex Stein]

Real America's Voice. We don't pull any punches.

[Co-host or guest commentator]

When you watch Fox News, remember, you're

[Alex Stein]

watching a bunch of positive homosexuals brag about a bunch of bull crap. That's not true. Are we? Are you guys watching Fox News? Stop. Turn it off. Turn it off. Seriously, who here is vaccinated? I know a lot of people are vaccinated here. Oh, you're not? Good. Because let me tell you something about the vaccine. I shared a bunch of vaccine misinformation. Like, I posted on Facebook that if you got the vaccine, it would turn you gay. That's. That's not true. If you got vaccinated, you were already gay to start with. That's the order of operations, guys.

[Co-host or guest commentator]

Nobody here has a mask on. Thank God. Because if a pair of Levi's can't stop a fart, how can a mask stop a deadly virus?

[Alex Stein]

Well, I just want to say I love each and every one of you.

[Co-host or guest commentator]

Thank you so much.

[Alex Stein]

Give yourselves a round of applause for hanging out today.

[Co-host or guest commentator]

I'm Prime Time 99, Alex Stein. I love you guys. Peace and good night.

[Alex Stein]

Coming up Next, we got Primetime 99 going insane all over CPAC. Trust me, you don't want to miss it.

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[After Hours announcer / narrator]

Welcome back to after Hours on Real America's Voice.

[Alex Stein]

Welcome back to After Hours with Alex Stein. We're still here at CPAC asking people all about the event, asking them what they think about the war, asking where the big booty Latinas are. So check this out, ladies and gentlemen. I'm with one of the biggest legends of the conservative movement. He is a guy that has been targeted, persecuted, and he came out on top. I want to welcome on. And he's been on the show, the one, the only, Enrique Tarrio. Enrique. So what do you think about CPAC so far?

[Enrique Tarrio]

I think it's great. I've been coming to CPAC almost every year, except the years I was in prison since 2012. It's a midterm, so the turnout's always a little bit lower.

[Co-host or guest commentator]

All you think it is.

[Enrique Tarrio]

Well, and plus, the president's not speaking, so a lot of people that wanted to come see the president. There's so many factors. And then there's a.

[Co-host or guest commentator]

But I like cpac, but what did they try to do? They tried to stop you from coming

[Alex Stein]

in, and then they immediately changed their mind. That was ridiculous. They don't know who you are, that you're a legend, that you created a movement.

[Enrique Tarrio]

Well, last year, they did the same thing. Have they given my pass back? But it's kind of embarrassing. I get in there and they're like, let me get your badge, sir.

[Jerry Brooks]

No.

[Co-host or guest commentator]

Why did they do that to you? And, you know, it's funny. You're one of the most connected guys here.

[Alex Stein]

It's like, what do they think they're doing? Maybe they try to do that to get some cloud. They want you to, like, post a video or something. Maybe you think that's 5D chess they're playing that.

[Enrique Tarrio]

That might be. That might be a thing that they want that exposure. Especially this year where there's not. The attendance is very low. I mean, right in front of us. The camera can't see it, but it's pretty empty.

[Alex Stein]

Yeah. Where we're at. What do you think they could do to change it? They'll have, like, Tucker or Candace or somebody. I mean.

[Enrique Tarrio]

Yeah, I think. Look, I think if they have Tucker. Actually, I think if they have Tucker and Laura Loomer on the same stage,

[Co-host or guest commentator]

that would be great.

[Enrique Tarrio]

Dude. Straight. Awesome.

[Alex Stein]

They need to get Loomer versus Tucker. And then. Did you see Josh Hammer? He's going viral.

[Enrique Tarrio]

I talked about it this morning. The guy is a real Can I cuss here? Okay. He's a real piece of shit. You know, Matt Gaetz, before him was talking about a message of unity and bringing back the coalition. This guy's just completely shitting on it. This guy, he tried to sideline the president in 2024.

[Alex Stein]

Literally, like, not even three years ago, this guy was going after Trump.

[Enrique Tarrio]

So this guy that wasn't a Trumper is trying to gatekeep what our movement is. Look, I've been doing this for a long time, and I know it's a ragtag coalition of people that usually don't get along to come together on this, and he's doing a disservice. And I always hear. Because you're undermining the president. No, fuck you. You're undermining the president by sitting here and trying to shit on, like, everybody who's trying to tell him to do the right thing. Look, I love the president. I have a level of loyalty to the president.

[Alex Stein]

I love Trump, too.

[Enrique Tarrio]

That doesn't mean his appointees don't get the brunt of. Of. Of, like, my tweets, you know, criticism. I mean, criticism.

[Alex Stein]

You should be criticizing the people in power, whether we voted for him or not.

[Enrique Tarrio]

You could criticize Trump, too. It's okay. It's not. It doesn't make you. Look, this is a. This is a movement, and it's going to go past. You know, he's an older gentleman. I'd say, you know, he has another 10 years, hopefully more. But, like, what comes after? And that's what we're looking at, you know?

[Alex Stein]

Well, what's going to come after? You think J.D. vance is going to get the push, but he's been awfully quiet about the Iran war. Do you think Marco Rubio is going to get the push?

[Enrique Tarrio]

I think. I think right now I'm still thinking that the nomination's going to go to J.D. would I be mad at a Marco Rubio, J.D. vance, or the reverse ticket?

[Alex Stein]

But I feel like they won't be on the same ticket.

[Enrique Tarrio]

They'll be on the same ticket.

[Alex Stein]

Okay.

[Enrique Tarrio]

They got to play the team.

[Alex Stein]

They better do that. But it seems like ideologically right now, they're not the same.

[Enrique Tarrio]

Well, here's another. Well, ideologically, maybe on some issues, they're not the same, but I think they understand what the coalition is, and I think they'll be able to play ball together. You know, Rubio is a politician.

[Alex Stein]

Yeah.

[Enrique Tarrio]

Seasoned politician. He knows what he's got to do to win. He wants that VP slot or that 40. That 40 what is it right now? 48 slot.

[Alex Stein]

Oh, the 48.

[Enrique Tarrio]

If you want the 48 slot, he's gonna play ball.

[Alex Stein]

Yeah.

[Enrique Tarrio]

You know, but the coalition is broken.

[Alex Stein]

Yeah, he's from the Miami area.

[Enrique Tarrio]

I mean, listen, I'd love to see a Cuban there.

[Co-host or guest commentator]

I know.

[Enrique Tarrio]

See, that would be a DEI hire.

[Alex Stein]

I'm not even. Oh, my gosh.

[Enrique Tarrio]

I'm kidd. I'm kidding. He's done a great job.

[Alex Stein]

But. But I actually don't even. I don't dislike Rubio. My point is, I just don't want. I feel like the people like Josh Hammer want the movement to be divided because they want it to fail. And I'm not even trying to be, like, too conspiratorial, even though I am.

[Enrique Tarrio]

I'm 100% sure that that's. That's. That's his deal. I'm convinced personally that that's his deal.

[Alex Stein]

You know, doesn't mean, like, you can't call out somebody you disagree with. But they are doing a coordinated attack. Instead of going out to the left, they're more interested in going up to the right.

[Enrique Tarrio]

But they're also doing a service. He's doing a service to the America first movement. And I'll tell you, coming from a very long time of doing this, I helped start, at least in South Florida, I helped start the Tea Party movement moving over there. Right. And then, you know, those were the rebels. Yeah, that was the rebels, and they took over. And then the establishment, back in, like, 2013, 2014, they took the reins of the Tea Party movement, and part of that movement became the MAGA movement. So is it going to be called the mega movement moving forward? No, because I think the same thing's happening now. I think the establishment people like Josh Hammer are trying to take this movement right for themselves, and all they're doing is they're emboldening. And you see it in college Republicans and young Republicans. What are they talking about?

[Alex Stein]

They're going after college Republicans, but that's who they're going after, too.

[Enrique Tarrio]

But that's the future, and they could go after them all they want. All they're doing is creating the next movement in conservatism, which is very, very. They're not very pro Israel in these cases. They have a view on foreign policy,

[Co-host or guest commentator]

but we all agree on every domestic

[Alex Stein]

issue, even probably Josh Hammer agrees with us on every domestic issue. It's our foreign policy that we fight over. Okay, but enough about the future. I want to talk about the past. Donald Trump said, when I stand by and stand Back, stand back, standby. Was he talking directly to you, Enrique?

[Enrique Tarrio]

No, like that.

[Alex Stein]

How did it feel, though, when you heard that? You had to feel kind of good, though. I like that because I was pro broad boy. So I was like, good, because he could have used that stage time to go after you guys.

[Enrique Tarrio]

Yes. And it's funny because the reason why that became an issue at the debate was because we just came back from Portland two days earlier at our end, domestic terrorism rally, which was to label antifa domestic terrorist organization. But if you look, if you read the transcripts and you go back to. I think that was kind of a slip up. They just threw the proud boy name out, which was Joe Biden. And he said, stand back and stand by. And it was kind of like, all right, let's move on from this. So I didn't really take it as a rally climb, but I did take it as, hey, stand by me. And we have. And I have. I've stood by the President. I'm a golden escalator guy.

[Alex Stein]

Yeah, I know, that was epic. But that was weird that we saw that on the Simpsons. That was weird.

[Tom Morrissey]

Yes.

[Enrique Tarrio]

That was wild, wasn't it? But I didn't take it. But he turned us. We were already kind of mainstream and that just propelled us to a level that, that my life changed like this that day.

[Alex Stein]

Okay, well, last question. You know, conspiracy theories, this and that. What do you think is going to happen in the midterms? I know, you know. Do you think that Donald Trump's going to get impeached? Because I think that that's the plan and I don't want to get too crazy, but I'm worried that that might happen and that will kill the movement.

[Enrique Tarrio]

I don't think so.

[Alex Stein]

Okay, good.

[Enrique Tarrio]

I think. Well, I don't think it kills the movement.

[Alex Stein]

You don't think it'll happen.

[Enrique Tarrio]

So Republicans are going to get a shellacking.

[Harold Stein]

Yeah.

[Enrique Tarrio]

And I'm going to tell you right now, I'm not predicting. I'm telling you what's going to happen. Republicans are going to be negative. About 10 to 15 seats come in within the first 30 to 60 days. There will be the third impeachment of Donald Trump. And that's actually a good thing. Not in the fact that I don't want to see the president of impeach. Impeachment doesn't really mean anything. Democrats have already taken the meaning out of impeachment completely off. And all they're going to do is at a very crucial time, they're going to unite that Base again? Yeah, right before the 2028 general election. So I am hopeful that they do that. Impeachment, that means absolutely nothing on the president. And I don't think the president knows. I think the president knows that that doesn't mean anything to him either. I think that's going to propel him. I think that's going to help JD

[Alex Stein]

Or Marco Rubio or anybody that's going to unify. So. Okay, last question. Are you worried about getting targeted again?

[Enrique Tarrio]

Yes. Yes. I think the inactions of Pam Bondi are going to result in a couple things. They're going to result in the arrest of Donald J. Trump after January 21, 2029. Because if accountability doesn't happen, that's the most important issue in America right now is accountability. Those people that weaponize the U.S. government against Trump supporters, those people need to be in prison. They made an example out of us. We need to make an example out of them. So it won't happen, because it's going to happen almost no matter what. But I rather have the Nancy Pelosi's, the Merrick Garlands, the Matthew Graves, Anthony Fauci and Anthony Fauci's in prison before the general election or they're going to put that man in prison and they're going to do the reverse. Because if you remember what they did is they put all his supporters in prison and then arrested him. They're going to do it in reverse. They're going to put him in prison and then come off. And the loudest voice that would be for us would be, would, would be silenced. And then we'll have to hope on Josh Hammer to come out against the political prisoners of 2029.

[Alex Stein]

You got a new book coming out. Tell the people about it. Guys, go support Enrique. He's fully independent. He needs your love and support. Even though he successful guy, it always helps to get support from the people.

[Enrique Tarrio]

So one of the things that I wanted to do when I got pardoned was tell my story and sue the government. I sued the government. And then part of telling my story is my book. While I was in prison, I wrote 13 composition books. We're putting it, compiling it together as like a memoir slash guide. You could go to tariobook.com and pre order the book. Now it comes out in fall, I think. I think you're really gonna like it. Again, it's a guy. It's not just a memoir. It's a guide on how he wrote

[Alex Stein]

this in a jail cell, in a prison.

[Enrique Tarrio]

This is all written pen to Paper

[Alex Stein]

guys, go support Enrique. He's a badass. He's not a terrorist. He's a guy that actually loves his country more than even most Americans. I would say so. I love you, Enrique. I love this country. God bless america. Go to tariobooks.com or tario.com tariobook.com tariobook.com get that book. Scream at it. Coming up next, we got a lot more content from cpac. You don't want to miss it. That's coming up after the break.

[After Hours announcer / narrator]

We'll be right back with more after hours on Real America's boys.

[Alex Stein]

Guys, you're watching After Hours with Alex Stein right here on Real America's Voice. We're at CPAC making it rain all day long. You're gonna like what you see next. So, dad, this is your first cpac. This is my dad, Harold Stein. He is the guy that created me. I wouldn't be here if it wasn't for him. What do you think about CPAC so far?

[Harold Stein]

I really have enjoyed it. Is. I've never been to a political event like this, and it's been very, very interesting.

[Alex Stein]

I know everybody keeps coming up to me. They seem to like you more than me.

[Harold Stein]

Well. But they all compliment you and I'm very proud of you.

[Alex Stein]

Has nobody said anything bad? I'm surprised because, you know, I do have some haters here. Nobody's come up to you and said, oh, your son's an idiot.

[Harold Stein]

Nobody's been a hater yet. Everybody's been very positive. It's turned out very, very well, and I've really enjoyed myself. Awesome time.

[Alex Stein]

Well, I'm happy you're enjoying it. What do you think about the Real America's Voice booth? It's pretty good if you compare it to all the other booths.

[Harold Stein]

The crew's awesome. Everybody's taken care of, is great. Plenty of every. Everybody has been wonderful. A great. You got great bosses and great people you work with.

[Alex Stein]

I know. Robert Sig is the man, isn't he?

[Harold Stein]

Robert and his son, the whole crew, everybody is extremely nice and have been very hospitable. Hospitality has been wonderful, and I've had a great time.

[Alex Stein]

Well, what do you. What, Is there anything weird you've seen? What do you think? So weirdest thing. Be honest. What's something weird?

[Harold Stein]

There's a lot of different people with their own agendas doing a lot of different things.

[Alex Stein]

What about the Iranian protesters? Those are kind of. They were kind of nice.

[Harold Stein]

They were nice. I thought that they had come in here to pro for, against the Deal. And I didn't realize.

[Co-host or guest commentator]

I know, dad.

[Alex Stein]

Isn't that very weird to see Iranians that are pro war?

[Harold Stein]

I didn't know what was going on. I left to go in the bathroom because I saw all the police and it scared me. I thought, there's going to be some something. Then they said, no, they're on a

[Alex Stein]

bar, but no, they're not even Muslims.

[Harold Stein]

And the lady was chanting just like when I'd go to you in one of those Palestinian rallies.

[Alex Stein]

It was somewhat scary, but they're nice. They're nice.

[Harold Stein]

They're not. Could not have been there. Everybody's been very well.

[Alex Stein]

I've had a good time with my dad. We're having a blast here. We're having a blast.

[Co-host or guest commentator]

I love it.

[Alex Stein]

Thank you guys for watching. Ladies and gentlemen, I'm with the legend Ben Berkwam. He works with me at Rap. But Ben, are you gonna go to the no Kings protest tomorrow?

[Ben Berkwam]

I might. I've got my kids here. We got a five hour drive home, but I'm looking forward to it.

[Alex Stein]

No, I'm gonna go there.

[Ben Berkwam]

These lunatics, I enjoy these, like playing with these lunatics any chance I get. They're so out of their minds.

[Alex Stein]

I'm so scared. I'm the one that Rav is sending into the lion's den. Ben gets to go be safe with his family. So I guess Ben, I know we. I'm not saying I'm not going. Okay, saying I want to go. Well, I want you to go because Ben is big like me. He's an ex football player. He's tough. And let's be real, these protests, a lot of these guys are like twinks, soy boys.

[Ben Berkwam]

Well, a lot of the guys are girls.

[Alex Stein]

You know, girls are guys. That's the problem. Okay. So Ben, what do you think about overall, about cpac? You like it? Love it, hate it.

[Mark Lynch]

What do you think?

[Ben Berkwam]

Yeah, you know, I was surprised. I thought it was going to be more contentious than it is. You know, with all the infighting that you've seen and some of this drama made up division going on. I'm glad it hasn't had that. But I've also. My biggest fear about 2026 is the energy tomorrow. You got all these crazy lunatic trannies out there marching against America, marching against ice. And our side is just kind of floating along. We better wake up and realize it's the fight. It's life or death of our nation. You gotta show up, you gotta vote, and you gotta show up out in the streets and wear your Ice hats. God bless ice. Let everyone know that you stand with these people.

[Alex Stein]

God bless America. Yeah, who cares? And God bless Ben. We love you.

[Jerry Brooks]

God bless you.

[Alex Stein]

All right, guys, I'm with my very good friend Bo French. He's in a crazy runoff. Bo, you're gonna win, though. Everybody loves you. Can you tell us a little bit about your runoff and what's going on in your campaign?

[Bo French]

Yeah. Well, first of all, as you know, a statewide runoff in Texas is historically very good for the more conservative candidate. The guy that I'm running against to be the regulator over the oil and gas industry, our most important industry in Texas, is pretty much a Democrat. I mean, he's a Democrat, super donor. We have a lot more information about him. But he's also just passed onto the industry the largest environmental regulations in its history. Kind of like think Obama and Biden. EPA type regulations. Clearly not good for the industry. It's going to raise costs, which is going to cost jobs. So look, I'm for. I'm a business guy, right.

[Alex Stein]

I want to.

[Bo French]

I want to have lower oil prices. So it's good for the economy and good for consumers, but high enough and enough margin for the operators so that we can keep all of our. You know, nearly 2 million people in Texas are somehow affected by employment in the oil and gas industry. So it's super critical for us.

[Alex Stein]

Well, everybody needs to go vote for Beau, but all I care about is Beau is having the biggest party ever. Beau, tell us about this party. I'm going to be there. And we got a bunch of big name is Ken Paxton. Tell us a little bit about the party.

[Bo French]

Yeah, I mean, as you know, I'm kind of known for. For throwing big bashes. We've got a good one coming up on April 6th. Tickets are going fast. Brandon Herrera is coming up.

[Alex Stein]

Brandon, I was with him last night.

[Bo French]

He's awesome guy. So we got some other surprises in the works too. It's gonna be a lot of fun. You're gonna be there.

[Alex Stein]

I know. I'm gonna be dancing. And Francis and Bo goes to the Cowboys game. He's a true freaking Texan. Not a lot of these fake people that try to pretend to be Texan. Bo is a tried to Drew Tex integrated American. So both last thing. Tell the people what they need to hear. So they'll vote for you.

[Bo French]

Yeah, look, if you. If you want to vote for a conservative and not a rhino, then I'm the guy, you know, we have to protect our oil and gas industry. Donald Trump knows it's the Most important industry. It's why he focused on Venezuela and Iran, you know, the first and third largest oil reserves in the world. So let's protect our industry here in Texas. Let's make it as strong as it can be. Let's protect the jobs, and let's keep Texas strong.

[Alex Stein]

Awesome. Thank you. All right, guys, we're here at CPAC with two great people that have an incredible story about what it's like to be a detransitioner. So can you guys introduce yourselves and kind of tell us, you know, a little bit about yourself so the audience knows who you guys are?

[Claire Abernathy]

My name is Claire Abernathy. I'm a detransitioner. I got into all of it when I was 12 years old. I was on testosterone for three years. I underwent surgery at 14. I detransitioned at 17 after sort of coming into myself and being a woman. And now, starting in December 2024, I've been doing public advocacy to oppose gender ideology.

[Alex Stein]

Simon, tell us about yourself. Yeah.

[Simon Amaya Price]

Hey, everybody. I'm Simon Amaya Price. I decided I was really a girl inside when I was 14, and this was shortly after I was sexually assaulted by an older boy at my school. I was out of it by the time I was 18. It was kind of a staged thing. I was in, like, the non binary territory for a while, which is not my proudest moment.

[Alex Stein]

You're young, you know. Right, I'm young. Right.

[Simon Amaya Price]

But I luckily, because of my parents, my dad. My parents drew a line in the sand.

[Alex Stein]

My.

[Simon Amaya Price]

My dad said no, I didn't actually take any hormones, but I did socially transition, changed my name, live as a woman, whole nine yards.

[Alex Stein]

So, Claire, can you tell us what were your parents like? Were they supportive? Because I think that's one of the biggest issues when it comes to this, is that oftentimes the doctors will tell the parents if they don't transition their child's gender, they're going to commit suicide. And I think that that is, like, you know, the biggest manipulative tactic I've ever seen. So can you tell us what were your parents like when you were going through this?

[Claire Abernathy]

So when I first started getting into it when I was around 12 years old, they were more skeptical. They didn't go along with it for around the first year that I was calling myself trans. I wasn't, like, socially transitioned until I was 13, but when I was 13 and a half, almost 14, they took me to a therapist, actually here in Dallas, who told them that all of these other issues that I had my Eating disorder and my self harm were because I was actually a boy and they wouldn't affirm me.

[Alex Stein]

And the therapist said that?

[Claire Abernathy]

Yes. And they. They were still, like, kind of holding off on it. They took me to a second therapist, said the exact same thing. And within two months of seeing this therapist, I was at a gender clinic getting injected with testosterone.

[Alex Stein]

Wow. So can you tell us, I guess, what was the biggest social stigma when you try to transition? Because I feel like that is the worst part about it. It's like, yeah, there are people that will affirm your gender, but don't you almost become a social pariah a little bit? What was your experience, I guess, socially from doing it? Yeah. I'm saying, when you first decided to start, were people like, did you lose friends, like, or were your friends supportive?

[Simon Amaya Price]

So this is something that's really different between transitioning and then socially detransitioning. When I first transitioned, everybody welcomed me with open arms. I didn't have a single person who said anything negative, not one friend. The only people who said anything negative were my parents. I'm really lucky to have them. When I socially detransitioned and I talked about my experience with that, that's when people came after me. And we both now, because of our public advocacy, regularly receive death threats.

[Alex Stein]

Yeah. So tell us about that, because now the LGBTQ community comes after you guys. And why do you think that is that? Why are they so defensive of this position? Because it's not about being gay or straight. Like, this is. It's just a weird thing that they come after you guys when they know that you obviously went through a very tough challenge, to say the least.

[Claire Abernathy]

It's a cult, and we are apostates, and so they can't have that. We sort of challenge the idea that kids 100% of the time know who they are and that every kid is right all of the time about being gay or trans or whatever. And the idea that all of us, us need and benefit from social and

[Alex Stein]

medical affirmation, wow, that is just so insane. But I do like the TERFs, the trans exclusionary radical feminists that are against transgenders and women's sports. But personally, I like transgenders and women's sports so I can gamble on them and win money. That's always my favorite aspect of it. I would love Shaquille o' Neal to join the wnba. But I guess, last kind of question. How has your life been so far, and have you made a change? I think you guys have. It's very brave of you. Guys to speak out. It's not easy to do that. So kind of, I mean, have you had any personal experience of kind of waking a young person up or even an adult up and changing their lives for the better?

[Simon Amaya Price]

Yeah. So I actually work with young men and their families who are impacted by this issue. Basically ages 16 through 25. I've directly had probably 5D transition.

[Alex Stein]

Wow, that's awesome.

[Simon Amaya Price]

The first time I had a parent reach out to me to say that I, if not for me, their kid wouldn't have desisted was about a year ago. And like everything since then has been the cherry on top because like, this is even one.

[Alex Stein]

It feels good. Really. I'm not just saying that. And I didn't even try to virtue signal you change one person's life for the better. That's awesome.

[Simon Amaya Price]

And not only that, I've been able to pass bills in New Hampshire which criminalize ban puberty blockers, prostate hormones and breast surgeries from Heiner in West Virginia. The first bill I ever tested testified on finally ended pross hormones and puberty blockers for minors because there was still a loophole open.

[Alex Stein]

Wow.

[Simon Amaya Price]

And I'm working on bills in Massachusetts, New Hampshire together. We've actually testified in over 12 states and DC at the FTC. And so we're making a lot of headway, especially with the current administration guys.

[Alex Stein]

Coming up after the break, I'm talking to some great patriots and they're saying some crazy things. You don't want to miss it.

[After Hours announcer / narrator]

Welcome back to after hours. Unreal america's voice.

[Alex Stein]

Thank you guys so much for watching After Hours with Alex Stein right here on Real America's Voice. We're here at CPAC just asking people if they're going insane for the Ukraine. But we got a lot of Iranians that are really doing all the insanity. It's a wild scene. Check it out. Hey, guys, we're at CPAC and we're with the best dressed couple here. So can you tell us what is the garb? It's very authentic. It looks good. And what are you guys representing? Okay.

[Iranian American participant]

We are Iranian American and this is our traditional dress. Iran has so many different cultures. So many different traditional dress. This is one of them. We are here to show our support from our President Trump, Israel, all of the armies, war and much more. Our king, Reza Pahlavi.

[Alex Stein]

I know, and I like Reza too. But you know, this is what I'm worried though. Now we're in this conflict.

[Co-host or guest commentator]

Persians are some of the toughest people. You know, it's not Going to be an easy battle. So can you tell us?

[Alex Stein]

I mean, because some of the conspiracies, oh, they're idiots or they're dumb. You know, that's not the truth. They're some of the smartest people in the world. So that's what I'm worried about.

[Iranian American participant]

Yes, sir. We are here to be our people voices because my people, they are under the IRGC regime for 47 years. They are under the dictator regime. They murder for everything for the single of the freedom. And we are here to show their voices to hold the war.

[Alex Stein]

Okay, last question. Because I know you guys got to go to the event. I love the guy from Shahs of Sunset. Do you watch Bravo? Do you watch that TV show the Shahs of Sunset? What do you think about it? Are they good representation? Because I watch it all the time and I'm like, I didn't know Persians like to get drunk and party.

[Iranian American participant]

Yeah. The king, Reza Pahavi is a just safe person, honest. And who shows his loyalty to the Iranian people for 47 years. He's a stand behind of the Iran. He lose all of the youngest time age just for the Iran. We never forget that. He's just a person. He's just a safe person. We can trust him.

[Alex Stein]

We love it. Well, you heard it here first from real Iranians that actually know what they're talking about. Thank you.

[Iranian American participant]

God bless Israel. God bless Israel. God bless Iran.

[Alex Stein]

Awesome. Thank you. Can you give me the mic? Thank you so much. Thank you. Right there. Ladies and gentlemen, we're here at CBAC with one of my new best friends, the one, the only, Jerry Brooks. I keep forgetting it because I only know him as Jerry. So, Jerry, what do you think about Seapack so far? Are you having fun?

[Jerry Brooks]

I've been having a terrific time. This is actually my third cpac. I've been in Orlando, came here in Dallas four years ago, and now I'm back, just having myself a great old time.

[Alex Stein]

And you got a podcast, so you are in media, so everybody needs to go follow Jerry's podcast. But I guess my biggest, biggest complaint. Jerry, where are all the big booty Latinas? We're in Texas. I don't see any big booty Latinas around here.

[Jerry Brooks]

AOC is enough of a mess on her own.

[Co-host or guest commentator]

Brennan, she's hot. You don't think she's hot?

[Alex Stein]

Is she hot?

[Jerry Brooks]

No.

[Co-host or guest commentator]

What? Okay, why is she not hot?

[Alex Stein]

Tell us why AOC is not hot.

[Jerry Brooks]

As a general rule of thumb, I've always found liberal women not exactly my type. Okay, it's conservative women. They're, they're smart, they're real easy on the eyes in many cases.

[Alex Stein]

So I figure, okay, so who's the hottest congresswoman? Do you like Nancy Mace? You like Lauren Boebert? Who's the hottest one on Capitol Hill? Anna Paulina Luna. She's a big booty Latina.

[Jerry Brooks]

Well, now I have to be a little bit loyal to Florida because that's where I live. Annapolina Luna. Real easy on the eye.

[Alex Stein]

Yes, very easy on eye.

[Jerry Brooks]

I mean, they're like, Some people were like, well, well, aren't you just a sexist? I said, no, I'm a guy with hormones that still work.

[Co-host or guest commentator]

Thank you.

[Alex Stein]

I know. And you know, that's sometimes my biggest problem with the conservative movement. And I get it. I do believe in God. I am a Christian. But at the same exact time, we're still men. You know what I mean? And it's not bad to say somebody's pretty. I think women like to be complimented.

[Jerry Brooks]

Oh, well, I have the same. When Melania Trump. I mean, hot, you hot. I mean, the only first lady that ever made me want to take a cold shower.

[Alex Stein]

That's the kind of first lady we

[Jerry Brooks]

need because Joe Biden couldn't get. Ah, girl, what is wrong with you?

[Alex Stein]

I know. Dr. Jill Biden, give me a break. But I bet she was maybe hot when she was younger. So what do you think, though, is going to happen? The conservative movement right now is a little fractured. Do you think that it's possible that a Democrat could win in the future? Because looks like the midterms are going to be a bloodbath.

[Jerry Brooks]

Oh, yeah. I've been commenting on that for a while and I've been concerned. I mean, I'm very grateful that I live in Florida. We've got pretty much, well, the most badass governor in the country.

[Alex Stein]

Desantis is a great governor, One of the best.

[Jerry Brooks]

I do have my concerns because just

[Alex Stein]

recently

[Jerry Brooks]

the House, the Florida House member.

[Alex Stein]

Yeah. In right Mar A Lagos district. Yeah.

[Jerry Brooks]

And it went from Republican to Democrat. And I'm like, and I'm like, wait a minute, what?

[Alex Stein]

And it was a black guy that Trump endures.

[Co-host or guest commentator]

You think that, that he would win,

[Alex Stein]

but I can't believe he actually got killed too. What didn't he lose by like 20% or something crazy?

[Jerry Brooks]

I think it was at least a double digit loss. And I'm thinking to myself, well, well, well, this is real interesting. It's like, I mean, I've heard Transylvania. I'm so racist. It's like Spare me, people. Yeah, I know these people cannot come up with anything original, and I've had to deal with it for over 30 years.

[Alex Stein]

Well, that brings me to my next question. I think that is a good point. You know, being a black conservative is not the easiest path, but I feel like in the conservative movement, people want to, you know, spotlight and help black conservatives. So how has your experience been being black and being conservative?

[Jerry Brooks]

Well, in the early. I mean, I. In the early years, yeah, it was hard.

[Alex Stein]

It was.

[Jerry Brooks]

It was very hard because there weren't that many of us. But then I realized over the years, coming up with some meetings and really learning from some of the great minds. Like Dr. Thomas Soul.

[Alex Stein]

Yeah. Great.

[Jerry Brooks]

I mean, the man's in his mid-90s and he still writes books.

[Alex Stein]

Yeah, he's very smart.

[Jerry Brooks]

And the cool part is he also. We have something in common because we were both born. Born in the same hometown.

[Co-host or guest commentator]

What, Tallahassee?

[Jerry Brooks]

No, no, no. We were both born in North Carolina.

[Alex Stein]

Oh, wow.

[Jerry Brooks]

Gastonia, North Carolina.

[Alex Stein]

Do you like Michael Jordan? Are you Michael Jordan fan or LeBron fan?

[Jerry Brooks]

I. I am a Tar Heel.

[Alex Stein]

You went to unc?

[Jerry Brooks]

No, nothing.

[Alex Stein]

That's one of the best colleges in the world. I couldn't get in there unless I, like, lied on my SAT or something. That's the only way I can get in there.

[Jerry Brooks]

No, it's like I grew up with it. My mom is a huge basketball fan. She helped develop my love of the game. And, yes, it's the Tar Heels. And I've learned Tar Heel born, Tar Heel bred. When I die, I'm Tar Heel dead.

[Alex Stein]

This is what we need. We need a guy that's loyal. That's some of the issues that we're having is we don't have a good group of people that are truly loyal to the cause.

[Jerry Brooks]

Well, I understand when it comes to loyalty, I was very portrayed. I grew up in a family of educators.

[Bo French]

Yeah.

[Jerry Brooks]

Four of them, as a matter of fact. So there were certain things that were demanded of me.

[Alex Stein]

Yeah.

[Jerry Brooks]

And expected of me and. Because I didn't want to get hit inside the head by my grandpa. Yeah, well, yeah, exactly. Or my grandmother. Either she had. She had a better.

[Co-host or guest commentator]

Jerry, get up here.

[Jerry Brooks]

Yeah, exactly. Or it's like I taught you. You better than that.

[Enrique Tarrio]

Bam.

[Alex Stein]

That's. We need some more parents that are willing to do that.

[Jerry Brooks]

Well, well, parents, grandparents. But I was very grateful. I was blessed with a mom who was very concerned about my education. She wanted me to go to a college prep, high school, things like that. And she didn't give me a choice.

[Alex Stein]

Well, what do you think about AI though? Now I'm worried. All these doctors who stuff are using chat GPT to go through medical. Medical school. I'm worried about the future. Are you worried about all this AI stuff?

[Jerry Brooks]

I do have my concerns.

[Alex Stein]

I bet you like to use Grok to put the girls in the bikinis, though. You ever do that? No, I do that every day. I got it every day I put myself in a bikini.

[Jerry Brooks]

Sometimes I got better things to do. It's like I. I just do. But I do have concerns. Legitimate concerns. But AI like knowledge. It's only good or bad, depending upon how you use it.

[Alex Stein]

Very fair.

[Jerry Brooks]

And I'm not. And I don't worry about it because I don't think AI could handle me.

[Enrique Tarrio]

Really?

[Alex Stein]

No, they can't. So, Jerry, I can barely handle you. Tell the people where they can find you and how they can support you.

[Tom Morrissey]

Simply.

[Jerry Brooks]

We are in black and right. R I G H T. Good play on words in blackandright.net on all social media.

[Alex Stein]

Yeah, and I'm not going to go to a porn site or something. I type that in. I don't want like. No, you have four black guys and one little white girl. If I spell that wrong.

[Jerry Brooks]

Oh, God, no. It's like, oh, my goodness. It's like, here comes somebody I would love to say hello to.

[Alex Stein]

I know you're that tall.

[Co-host or guest commentator]

Yeah, I know. That's what everybody says.

[Alex Stein]

All my content.

[Jerry Brooks]

I'm all, good to see you.

[Alex Stein]

This guy's a legend, right?

[Jerry Brooks]

Oh, I know. Huge rap fan.

[Alex Stein]

I knew you for me in my own mind.

[Jerry Brooks]

That's what.

[Alex Stein]

Yeah, yeah. You're the man. Are you doing your show?

[Mark Lynch]

Yeah.

[Enrique Tarrio]

15 minutes.

[Alex Stein]

Go to the.

[Enrique Tarrio]

Go.

[Alex Stein]

Go to the bathroom or whatever. I know. I always had to go right before I'm live.

[Co-host or guest commentator]

I'll see you back there. Nice to finally meet you.

[Jerry Brooks]

Well, there we go. It's like I. I'm glad to meet him too. I've been a fan of his for the longest time and. And I'd love to get getting to

[Alex Stein]

know you and I know.

[Jerry Brooks]

Absolutely.

[Alex Stein]

So Jerry and I are best friends. Well, Everybody go to blackandright.com. don't misspell it because you're going to

[Jerry Brooks]

be on actually in black and white.

[Co-host or guest commentator]

See, I know, I know. See, I know.

[Alex Stein]

They're gonna go to blackandright.com and it's gonna be. It's gonna be. It's gonna be a bunch of six, 10 black guys doing lord knows what to some little girl. No no, no, they better not. I have a lot of young people that watch my show.

[Jerry Brooks]

Yeah, well, just look for the blazing.

[Alex Stein]

Blazing, too. That's in a lot of those.

[Jerry Brooks]

Well, it gives a whole new definition of a hot mic.

[Alex Stein]

Well, we love you, Jerry. All right, thank you. Have a good CPAC.

[Jerry Brooks]

Thank you very much. And thank you, Mr. Stein. Oh, there better be people who are absolutely gonna hate me.

[Alex Stein]

I know. But, hey, they're gonna love you, too.

[Jerry Brooks]

Well, no, these are my friends.

[Alex Stein]

Yeah, the black people might get mad at you, but the ones that are.

[Jerry Brooks]

I don't care.

[Alex Stein]

We don't care. We love you guys.

[Jerry Brooks]

I've survived a lot here with my

[Alex Stein]

new best friend, Tom Morrissey. Tom, what did you just tell the people that you like? What? So much?

[Tom Morrissey]

I like your show so much because you're right on target.

[Alex Stein]

He knows. This guy's awesome. And are you a Vietnam vet?

[Tom Morrissey]

I am, yes.

[Alex Stein]

Did you get drafted or did you?

[Tom Morrissey]

I volunteered. But I was number 14 in the first draft lottery, so I think my number was up. I went in the first draft lottery. I flew helicopters, so it was better than walking, so I volunteered.

[Alex Stein]

Well, you are an awesome patriot. We appreciate that. What do you think about the war, though? You worry there might be a draft for this war, or you think that's impossible?

[Jerry Brooks]

No, I don't.

[Tom Morrissey]

I wish there was a draft because

[Alex Stein]

I wish there was.

[Tom Morrissey]

Only half a percent of Americans even serve in the service, and I think that we need to have more people have that military experience.

[Alex Stein]

What about women? Should they be excluded or should they be eligible?

[Tom Morrissey]

I don't have any problem with them being in the service, but I don't think they should be in combat roles.

[Alex Stein]

I agree with them on that. If they're going to. Everything's going to be equal, then maybe women can't get drafted, but. But they don't need to be fighting. They need to be doing, like you said, service roles, not fighting on the front lines.

[Tom Morrissey]

Yeah, because they'll get. If they got captured as a pow, I fear to sense what situation they would be in.

[Alex Stein]

Well, Tom, I can already tell where the big booty Latinas are.

[Tom Morrissey]

I think they're still in Miami, which is where I was born.

[Alex Stein]

He knows this guy's a big booty Latina expert. Thank you, Tom. You'd be good. Thank you so much. All right, I'm here with Michael Casey and Ashley Holland, who actually runs a non profit for my good friend James o'. Keefe. What do you guys think about this event? Is it fun? I know you went viral Michael, because Mike Lindell got served while you were interviewing him. Can you tell us about it?

[Michael Casey]

Yes, I was interviewing him, asking about his stories about Minneapolis and voter fraud. Pretty normal interview. And then this woman walks up out of nowhere, unless she's like a fan asking for an autograph. She's shoving a paper in his face, and he's just trying to get her to go away. I'm like, look. I'm like, what is that? And she's like, oh, you've been served. You've been served. She's like, smiling. So Lindell just grabs it, throws it over it, and keeps going the interview for another 10 minutes or whatever. It's crazy.

[Co-host or guest commentator]

This place is insane.

[Alex Stein]

I mean, you come here, you're going to get served with a lawsuit or you're going to meet your future wife. So, Ashley, tell us a little bit about what you do for James o' Keefe and o' Keefe Media Group.

[Ashley Holland]

Right. So I actually run the Citizen Journalism foundation for James. So we have a nonprofit arm of o' Keeffe Media Group, Citizen Justice League, some of you may have heard it started launch, I guess, a week ago. There's an umbrella of citizen journalists working under Citizen Journalism foundation. And we are going to get arrest.

[Alex Stein]

I love it. Are you guys using the. The undercover cameras and all that? You know, all that stuff?

[Simon Amaya Price]

Absolutely.

[Alex Stein]

Thank you guys so much for watching my time here at cpac. It was a wild event. I went insane for the Ukraine. You know how I do it. Thank you guys for watching. Make sure to get some soldier fuel on Amazon.com and if you post yourself drinking Soldier Fuel and you send us a video, it might make it on the air and we'll send you a free case. We love you guys. We'll see you tomorrow night. This is an I heart podcast. Guaranteed human.