AFTER HOURS WITH ALEX STEIN May 15th, 2026

Summary

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AFTER HOURS WITH ALEX STEIN – May 15th, 2026 (Alex Stein vs. Arkansas State)

Podcast: Real America’s Voice
Host: Alex Stein (with Sidekick/Co-host)
Date: May 15, 2026

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Episode Overview

This special "After Hours" episode was recorded live at Arkansas State University and features Alex Stein—known for his provocative, no-filter style—debating immigration, race, government overreach, and Donald Trump’s legacy with a series of outspoken students. The episode delivers tense, unfiltered exchanges, heated rebuttals, and moments of unexpected mutual respect, spotlighting the generational and ideological divides playing out on American college campuses today.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. The Role and Impact of ICE (U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement)

• Student 2 expresses fear over ICE’s authority and the trauma its presence causes both to legal and illegal residents. She points out the risk of overreach:
  • “I am in constant fear of being stopped, of getting arrested, of all that. And I, I feel for the other everybody else, you know, even if they are illegal.” (06:53)
• Alex Stein pushes a "states’ rights" argument and worries about federal agencies being used for martial law:
  • “I want less government involvement. That's why, you know, tend to be conservative.” (05:41)
  • Stein emphasizes protecting American citizens’ jobs from H1B visa fraud rather than focusing solely on low-wage undocumented workers.
    • “The legal immigration...actually has as much of a detriment, if not more, to society because it affects actual people that have college degrees.” (07:32)

2. Trump vs. Obama on Deportations / Media Manipulation

• Student 3 claims Trump deported more immigrants than Obama, which Alex forcefully disputes with on-the-fly fact checking:
  • “Obama has deported millions of people more than Trump... Obama overseeing roughly 3 million formal removals compared to Trump’s first term total of... 1.2 million or fewer.” (10:20)
• Alex Stein argues that media uses "trauma-based mind control" to amplify isolated incidents and manipulate young people's perceptions:
  • “It makes you think that that's happening on every street corner in America, and that's not the case. It was an isolated incident...it's meant to scare people. It's not the reality of the situation.” (11:29)

3. Children, Immigration, and Human Trafficking

• Student 3 & 4: Pushback on children being housed in detention centers and implications of child migrants.
• Stein’s view: Portrays most unaccompanied child migrants as victims of human trafficking, suggesting parents or cartels are mainly responsible.
  • “I think an 8 year old in Mexico not being sex trafficked would be much better than coming to America and having a legal cartel coyote take them and rape them next to a rape tree.” (13:33)
• Memorable Moment: Argument over whether children “come for a better life” or are being exploited—demonstrates disconnect on root causes and family motivations.

4. Trump’s Criminal Charges and Epstein Connections

• Student 4 & Callers: Concerns over Trump’s “34 felonies,” association with Jeffrey Epstein, and failure to release unredacted Epstein files.
• Alex Stein: Dismisses convictions as politicized “hit jobs.”
  • “Those people, whether it’s Fanny Willis or all of those people, they all had a bias and that’s why they targeted Donald Trump...our criminal justice system is a joke.” (22:24)
  • On Epstein: “As soon as he found out [Epstein] was a child predator, he kicked him out of Mar a Lago...There’s no evidence that he actually did anything to a child.” (16:10; repeated at 27:00)
• Notable Quote:
  • “You are what you hang around, gang.” – Caller (26:49)
  • “Well, they do say birds of a feather fly together. But my point is, I’m saying that there’s no evidence that he's guilty of being a pedophile.” – Alex Stein (26:51)

5. Race, Systemic Injustice, and Government Critique

• Multiple students/callers: Raise issues of systemic racism, Trump family’s past, the judicial system, and the legacy of drugs in Black communities.
• Tense Exchange:
  • Caller: “He don’t care about the poor. All he care about is maintaining himself...” (28:09)
  • Stein: Accuses Democratic policies and immigration of harming “marginalized communities” more by overburdening social safety nets (28:19).
• Debate about Racism:
  • Caller accuses Trump of being racist—“His granddad was in the Ku Klux Klan.”
  • Stein rebuts: “Everybody has a racist grandfather. That’s just how the world...Trump has a lot of black employees.” (29:23–29:33)
• Multiple insults and appeals for mutual respect; moment of agreement on education as a “way out.”

6. ICE, Police Brutality, Detention vs. Arrest, Constitutional Rights

• Bryson Brown and other students: Argue ICE and other agencies routinely violate the rights of Americans and legal immigrants.
  • “You support ICE, killing, injuring, deporting, attacking American citizens that are legally here...” (41:21)
  • Stein and co-host maintain the technical/legal difference between “detaining” and “arresting.”
• Back-and-forth over whether ICE is legally and morally justified in off-duty shootings, detaining citizens, and handling of identification:
  • “Being detained, arrested, and deported are not the same thing.” – Alex Stein (54:03)
• Recurring theme: Students cite specific documented detentions of US citizens; Stein repeats agencies must check status and that mistakes don’t excuse broader government functions.

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Memorable Moments & Quotes

• “I'm not here to be impolite. But because you're a ghetto stiletto queen, you like to be impolite...in polite society, we shouldn't speak like that. Because I have manners. I have respect. Something that you don't have.” – Alex Stein (30:22)
• “He’s a convicted felon and he’s in office. Felons can’t even vote.” – Student 1 (46:56)
• “You're so out of touch with reality that you think I'm out of touch with reality.” – Alex Stein (43:12)
• “If you got primetime Alex Stein's Secret Soldier Fuel debate juice...you’ll be able to own all the libtards on any college campus across America.” – Alex Stein (49:00)

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Timeline / Timestamps for Key Segments

• [04:40] Show proper starts: Alex Stein introduces live debate at Arkansas State
• [05:26–09:46] Immigration & ICE: Student 2 debate (fears about ICE, H1B visas, state vs. federal authority)
• [09:47–15:38] Deportations, Obama vs. Trump, Media Narratives: Student 3
• [15:39–17:05] Epstein, Trump’s record, “collective punishment” for associations
• [21:00–23:18] Felonies, Iran war, justice system “hit jobs”: Student 4
• [26:04–33:17] Caller Carter: Pedophilia allegations, systemic racism, social programs, government trust
• [37:44–48:24] Bryson Brown: Police accountability, ICE conduct, constitutional arguments, shooting incidents (Keith Jones discussion)
• [50:42–53:09] Verbal sparring/roasting sequence with student (name not clear)—highly charged personal insults, comic relief/venting
• [53:12–61:16] Return to ICE detentions, definitions, constitutional principles, escalating back-and-forth on rights and law
• [61:46] Final sign-off and episode close

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Tone & Presentation

The tone is aggressively combative, deliberately provocative, and filled with sarcasm, with Stein alternating between trolling humor and combative factual rebuttal. Exchanges often become personal, with students passionately defending their points and the hosts pushing back dismissively or with derision. There's a recurring element of performance to the show—Stein relishes both winning arguments and antagonizing what he sees as “indoctrinated” students.

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For Listeners Who Missed the Episode

• Expect raw, blunt, and sometimes abrasive exchanges that probe the raw nerves of current American debates about immigration, patriotism, systemic injustice, and Trump’s legacy.
• Students challenge Stein with examples and emotional appeals regarding fear of ICE, police overreach, historical and present racism, and concerns about Trump’s morality, connections, and policies.
• Stein counters with a blend of fact-checking, sarcasm, analogies, and relentless reframing—minimizing Trump’s faults while aggressively challenging or dismissing his critics’ sources and arguments.
• The show features numerous ad hominem attacks, insults, but also concludes with a reluctant claim of “finding common ground” and a push for education as a solution.

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Notable Final Quotes

• Alex Stein (to an impassioned student): “You don't know the difference between being detained. So do you being harassed? Do you get paid for this or is this just what you do in your free time? Harass college students?” (61:21)
• Closing:
  • “I know that last debate got pretty intense, but at the end, we're able to shake hands and basically become friends. And that's what it's all about, finding that common ground.” – Alex Stein (61:16)

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Overall:

A fiery, polarizing campus edition where Stein does battle with Arkansas State students over some of the most contentious issues in modern America—immigration, justice, and national identity. The episode is less about persuasion and more about the cultural spectacle of debate, with memorable exchanges and all the electric energy of culture war confrontation.

Transcript

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[Alex Stein]

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[Alex Stein's Sidekick/Co-host]

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[Student 1]

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[Alex Stein]

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[Alex Stein's Sidekick/Co-host]

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[Alex Stein]

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[Student 1]

They tried to cancel us.

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[Alex Stein]

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[Alex Stein's Sidekick/Co-host]

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[Alex Stein]

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[Alex Stein's Sidekick/Co-host]

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[Student 1]

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After Hours with your host, Alex Stein starts right now.

[Alex Stein]

Ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls, children of all ages, welcome to this special edition of After Hours with Alex stein. Alex Stein vs. Arkansas State, right here in real America's Voice. That's right, your boy, Primetime99, Alex Stein, ventured all the way to Jonesboro, Arkansas, to debate some of the brightest and dullest students in all of Arkansas. And things get weird, things get crazy, and, you know, things get emotional. I'll be honest. And that show starts right now. Let's go, Arkansas State.

[Alex Stein's Sidekick/Co-host]

It's Primetime 99, the pimp on a blimp. I'm here with Turning Point usa. I love these guys. Thank you so much.

[Alex Stein]

Okay, what's your name?

[Student 2]

My name's Caitlin.

[Alex Stein]

Nice to meet you and Caitlin. Oh, yeah, of course.

[Alex Stein's Sidekick/Co-host]

Nice to meet you, Kaylin.

[Alex Stein]

Thank you for coming up.

[Student 2]

I was just wondering, I know you talked about it with him before, but just like your ideals on ice, because I feel like it is kind of justified. But I don't agree with the measures that they are taking. And do you agree with the extreme measures?

[Alex Stein]

See, you and I aren't that far off because I believe in states rights and I don't like the federal government overreaching their authority. And I can see how somebody that's anti ICE can take, you know, offense to having a federal police force on their street. And I think it is a necessary thing right now because the immigration crisis is where it's at. But at the same exact time I worry about the next pandemic, I worry about the next serious catastrophe where they're going to put martial law and they're going to use ICE or DHS to basically make it where we can't go to the grocery store. So I want less government involvement. That's why, you know, tend to be conservative. And so, yeah, I don't necessarily love the federal authorities just coming in and calling the shots, but they do have the legal authority to arrest people. So that's, that's how it works.

[Student 2]

Okay. I, I don't see them as police officers. I see them as, you know, regular people who are attacking.

[Alex Stein]

Well, they're more than regular people.

[Student 2]

Are they though?

[Alex Stein]

Yeah. They had to go through training, they had to go through an academy and then they get certified to be an ICE agent. Okay. I'll put it this way. I don't like the federal government getting involved in our everyday lives. When things get really hot and heavy in America, I do think it is a necessary thing that we do it.

[Student 2]

I'm originally from Texas and so I travel a lot back and forth from Arkansas to Texas. And I am in constant fear of being stopped, of getting arrested, of all that. And I, I feel for the other everybody else, you know, even if they are illegal. I mean, I do agree with the fact that we are deporting criminals. Criminals, yes, I agree with that. I just, I'm not so sure about the fact that we are deporting people who take the jobs that a lot of people don't want.

[Alex Stein]

Like those fast food workers, landscaping, service industry jobs. Yeah.

[Student 2]

And that's.

[Alex Stein]

You don't have to. We don't have to compete with those jobs. That's why I don't really think that that is bad. Is, I've said this multiple times. The legal immigration, where people are able to do H1B visa fraud and they're able to bring in their whole family, and they do that all legally. And I think that actually has as much of a detriment, if not more to society because it affects actual people that have college degrees, actual people that want to buy a house. You know, most of us here are not competing to work at McDonald's. I'm not saying it's a bad thing to do that, but that's not what we're competing to do. We're in college because we want to get a six figure job so we can support ourselves. And so the same goals that you have are the same as the people that are immigrating here legally through H1B visa fraud. And that's you're trying to compete with. And we already have 350 million people. We don't need to import 1.5 billion Indians to compete with us.

[Student 2]

But see, the thing is that the education in those other countries aren't as advanced as it is here.

[Alex Stein]

Yes.

[Student 2]

And so they do want to immigrate here legally so they can get that education so that they can learn.

[Alex Stein]

But why do they want the education?

[Student 2]

So that they can get better jobs, so they can live a better life.

[Alex Stein]

Your job.

[Student 2]

But it doesn't matter. They want those lives. People are people. It doesn't matter where you come from.

[Alex Stein]

Yeah, I agree. People are people. But when I see systematic fraud, we need to shut that down. I'm not saying nobody can come here. If you're some awesome athlete or something from Germany or, you know, there's. There's some great actors legally, then they

[Student 2]

have the right to take those jobs. They have the right to go to school, to take the spots that other people.

[Alex Stein]

I think it's a much more important thing to actually protect the rights of American citizens before protecting the rights of foreigners.

[Student 2]

But it doesn't matter. They're both. They're all people, though. So it matters for everyone's rights, not just us. We can't be selfish.

[Alex Stein]

Yeah, but you're being penalized, basically. And I don't want American citizens to be penalized. And this is what it goes to. I don't think we're that far off. I'm just saying if you look at the legal. I keep saying that because illegal sounds like legal. It is actually hurting us and hurting young people that have college degrees more than the illegal immigration where the people are, like we said, working at McDonald's or, you know, Working at a hotel. Awesome. Thank you. Give it up for her. Thank you. I was very polite. Nice to meet you, too. Okay, what do you got for us? And what's your name?

[Student 3]

My name's Larynia Laurinia.

[Alex Stein]

Like, Larinia, Talk into the mic, though. Now we're starting to get a bunch of people here and they're heckling and talking loud.

[Student 3]

What I know about is, like, Trump's immigration. He's been, like, deporting more immigrants than, like, Biden and Obama.

[Alex Stein]

That's not true. Yeah, that's. No. Pull out your phone right now. Pull out your phone right now. Do you have your phone?

[Student 3]

Yes, I do have my phone.

[Alex Stein]

Just ask who's deported. Just Google it. Who's deported?

[Student 3]

I have googled it before. And.

[Alex Stein]

And it's Obama. He's deported millions of people more than Trump. That's a fact. I'm telling you.

[Student 3]

That is not a fact.

[Alex Stein's Sidekick/Co-host]

I look it up.

[Student 3]

I look it up before.

[Alex Stein]

I'm going to pull it up. You're making me pull it up. You're the college kid. You should be all good at your phone. Hold on, let's see. Searching deportation stats. What are you going to say when I'm right? Barack Obama deported more people than Donald Trump during their terms in office, with obama overseeing roughly 3 million formal removals compared to Trump's first term total of 1.2 million or fewer. They say it's closer to 932,000. So even Trump's, you know, deportations with this term and his last one are still 2 million less than Barack Obama's.

[Student 3]

Thank you for quivering your point right here. Yeah, here's the thing. Obama, he would deport criminals, felons.

[Alex Stein]

Trump's doing that, too. But see, this is what this is. This is the only thing, because you do seem like you're smart. I'm not saying that condescendingly. But the problem is, though, you're under propaganda from places like CNN and Ms. Now and. And the media, because, listen, Alex Preddy, I didn't like that he got shot and killed like that. But when you see that video a million times, it makes you think that that's happening on every street corner in America, and that's not the case. It was an isolated incident. And the girl that got shot in her car, that was not a great thing.

[Student 3]

But.

[Alex Stein]

But my point is, you see that a thousand times over and over and over. And it's what I call trauma based mind control. It's meant to scare people. It's not the reality of the situation,

[Student 3]

it is kind of the reality because most protesters who are against ICE and almost everyone here on campus, they get attacked by police officers. Even ICE agents will attack them. Like it's all over the media.

[Alex Stein]

I don't know if that's true. You've had friends that got attacked by ice?

[Student 2]

No.

[Alex Stein]

Okay, boom, right there you just disproved the point. But there's a lot of media attention on these isolated incidents, so it makes it seem like it's happening everywhere. But if you just want to know the facts, Donald Trump has actually deported less people than Barack Obama. And he has said multiple times on record that he is not going to go after people that don't have a criminal record. So really you should like his immigration, you know, practices better than Barack Obama's if we're being intellectually honest.

[Student 3]

Well, actually I don't because under Trump's administration, like, let's say like ICE detention center, they're like people in there.

[Alex Stein]

They have detention centers under Barack.

[Student 3]

Yeah, many like children are mostly in there instead of adults, which is something that I know nobody likes.

[Alex Stein]

But why is that happening? Because we have people that are human traffickers bringing children here illegally and they're being the victims of sexual trauma and sexual abuse. We need to stop the problem. Yeah. You think these young kids are coming just willy nilly?

[Student 3]

No, I think people coming over the Mexican border are trying to get a better life here.

[Alex Stein]

How is an 8 year old going to have a better life in America compared to Mexico? What would be the motivation for an eight year old to risk their life crossing a horrible desert, potentially getting sex trafficked just to be able to go work at Wendy's and maybe not even be able to work at Wendy's because they don't have a green card or they don't have a social. So I don't really think the idea that kids are coming over here because they just want a better life. Like 8 year olds in Mexico probably think their life is great.

[Student 3]

It's, it's not, it's not really good over there in Mexico as like here in America.

[Alex Stein]

But I don't think an 8 year old has the ability to understand how bad his surroundings are. You know, you don't really understand.

[Student 3]

They know they're human being like I am. I'm a Mexican American. I can hear it just fine.

[Alex Stein]

I would, I think, I think an 8 year old in Mexico not being sex trafficked would be much better than coming to America and having a legal cartel coyote take them and rape them next to a rape Tree that is all across the border.

[Student 3]

Not a lot of children are in sex trafficking.

[Student 4]

That's.

[Alex Stein]

You don't think sex trafficking is bad? In every, literally in every airport, in the bathroom it says, are you a victim of sex trafficking? It says that in all these public spaces. Why do you think they put a sign on every public restroom that says that? Because it's not a problem.

[Student 3]

I think it. Sex trafficking is a problem, but with 8 year old children trying to come here to live a better life, to get at least.

[Alex Stein]

Well, I think it's a bad parent. I think that's bad parenting to just let your 8 year old go with a coyote.

[Student 3]

I don't think so because most.

[Alex Stein]

You don't think so?

[Student 3]

I think, I think most immigrants want here to come to or have a better life for them and their children.

[Alex Stein]

Yeah, but like a nine year old only cares about like cereal and toys. They don't know that if they go to America that they're going to get some sort of better lifestyle. I just don't think that that's their motivation. Oftentimes it's their parents selling them to the cartel. You do agree that the cartel is bad?

[Student 3]

It is, very much.

[Alex Stein]

And do you think the cartel is very influential in Mexico and South America?

[Student 3]

It's not.

[Alex Stein's Sidekick/Co-host]

But you don't think the cartel is

[Alex Stein]

influential and all the drugs they bring over. We've had over 100,000 overdose deaths from fentanyl alone, the majority of it coming from Mexico.

[Student 3]

Well, yeah, if the cartel is doing something bad in Mexico, that would be a good reason of why Mexican people want to come to America.

[Alex Stein]

Yeah, I know, I understand. But that's why we need to stop the cartel. But my point is the cartel might be committing the crime in Mexico, but then they're illegally bringing over the border in Arizona or Texas or California and then those drugs are being taken by college kids across the country and they're dying. So they're responsible whether it happens in America or not.

[Student 3]

Which is why I think under Trump they should be focusing on more like catching criminals instead of like catching families with children going door to door to like.

[Alex Stein]

Well, you're lucky that's what's happening. He's told ICE to chill out in Minneapolis and he said on record multiple times that he's going to focus on illegals that have a criminal record. He's literally said that. You can fact check that too. I, I think you like Donald Trump more than you want to admit.

[Student 3]

I don't.

[Alex Stein]

You got to look into him and he loves you. Saw him eat that taco bowl and Trump Tower.

[Student 3]

No, I also know that he's in the Epstein files.

[Alex Stein]

Yeah, but listen, you know, I like how you bring up the Epstein files. You think if he was in the Epstein files molesting children, that Joe Biden wanted to spend four years putting them in jail. So obviously he didn't do anything. Was he friends with Jeffrey Epstein? Yes, but as soon as he found out that he was a child predator, he kicked him out of Mar a Lago. So Donald Trump's a billionaire. You're going to be friends with other billionaires. It doesn't mean that you do every sordid, disgusting thing that they do in their personal lives.

[Caller 1]

So.

[Alex Stein]

So what you're doing is called collective punishment, which we're probably all against. Collective punishment. But you're collectively punishing Donald Trump for just being associates with a guy that is not a good guy. I'm not defending Jeffrey Epstein. Jeffrey Epstein is his pig. Disgusting. He deserves to die. But he's probably not dead. But yeah, I mean, I don't want to collectively punish Donald Trump. And there's no evidence that he actually did anything to a child. Did he do something to women over the age of 18? Probably, yes, but I don't think he did.

[Student 3]

Like, I think it was during like the early mid 2000s.

[Alex Stein]

It was like there's one statement from a limo driver where he alleged that he heard Donald Trump say that he raped and buried a kid also. But the FBI fact checked that and found out it was all BS and nonsense.

[Student 3]

Well, if you actually looked in the files,

[Alex Stein]

I've been, I've been to the FC files since before 2016, since before Trump was president. So. Okay, all right, thank you.

[Alex Stein's Sidekick/Co-host]

Give it up for her.

[Alex Stein]

Thank you for coming out. I really appreciate it. Go look into what I told you. Please look into it. If you guys enjoyed that, there is more verbal combat coming up right after this. Let me turn this on.

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[Alex Stein]

Welcome back to this special edition of After Hours with Alex stein. Alex Stein vs. Arkansas State right here on Real America's Voice. And this next student, he really crashes out, but at the end, I think he really learned something. Check it out. What's your name?

[Student 4]

My name's Dominic. And I just wanted to ask, why do you still support Donald Trump after he's been convicted of, like, 34 felons? Like, this is just genuine curiosity. He's been convicted of 34 felonies. He started the pointless war in Iran. He's been mentioned in the Epstein files more than God has been mentioned in the Bible. Yeah, like, I'm not saying he did anything in it because there's like, obviously nothing's happened, but he's been mentioned so many times that it should raise suspicion real quick.

[Alex Stein]

You have more that.

[Student 4]

And then he said he was going to, like, lower all the prices and stuff, but because of the war in Iran, they got raised like, gas prices is through the roof again, but still

[Alex Stein]

not as high as they were under Joe Biden or the Ukraine war. That's a fact.

[Student 4]

But he said that. He said he was going to lower them and now they're back.

[Alex Stein]

They were temporarily low, but I think once America, luckily America is basically energy independent. And once all these other countries are buying their energy from us, whether it's oil, gas, petroleum, whatever that is, it will actually end up lowering the price. So I can see your arguments like, hey, he said it's going to go lower and it did temporarily, and then now it went up. But when it comes to FC files, there's no evidence that he was actually, you know, banging kids. The Iran war, I didn't necessarily love it, but I also agree that I don't want terrorists to have nuclear weapons. So I feel like it was a necessary evil. And now it looks like the off ramp, that we're on the off ramp, and it's going to end sooner than later. So I don't think that that was as a big a catastrophe as the media said. And then what was your first complaint about Trump?

[Student 4]

He's convicted of 34.

[Alex Stein]

Okay. But come on, you know that that was all a hit job. You know, I know you're smart enough

[Student 4]

to know that you can't say that and still support like the rest of the, like the courts and all that stuff. Because he was convicted. They had evidence. They convicted him. 34, 32.

[Alex Stein]

Yeah, by a grub. I mean, those people, whether it's Fanny Willis or all of those people, they all had a bias and that's why they targeted Donald Trump. And so it's corrupt people trying to target somebody. And see, that kind of proves the point that he didn't do anything with Epstein, because if they really wanted to get him for something, they should have gone after him for being a pedophile, which he's not, because that would have been actually universally liked by the people. Instead, they showed that the system that we have is incredibly corrupt and our criminal justice system is a joke, and that if the, the, you know, the government thumb wants to land on you, it can take out anybody. And at the end of the day, it didn't even take them out. So, you know, the, the 34 felonies, all that was nonsense. You and I both know that.

[Student 4]

I still got two more questions. Number one, since, like, the Epstein files is. He said he was going to release

[Alex Stein]

the Epstein files day one, release 3 million documents.

[Student 4]

He said he was going to do it, like, as soon as he got into office. I was one of his, like, running points.

[Alex Stein]

Well, they did have to redact stuff, the victims and stuff, so that it does take a little time to do,

[Student 4]

but he released them with so many redactions that it was pointless to release them. And they. And he fought it. That was after they sued him. If I, If I remember collecting. They sued him or the. They sued the United States.

[Alex Stein]

Thomas Maxey, Marjorie Taylor Greene and Rokhan have put a lot of pressure on them. No, hey, listen, we all wanted transparency, and I think we'll get even more transparency, but 3 million Epstein files is 3 million more than Joe Biden gave us, and it's 3 million more than Kamala Harris.

[Student 4]

I'm not. I'm not saying it. It wasn't like they should have been released long time ago. Like, I'm just saying he was. One of his running points was, I'm gonna release these. And then he fought so hard to release them, and still nothing has been done from the files that. That shows, hey, these. These guys are being weird with kids. And, like, there's stuff that you can convict people, and still nothing.

[Alex Stein]

Prince Andrew got arrested in the uk, but, yeah, I think they needed that.

[Student 4]

That's the only one. There's been no other prosecution from these people that have been.

[Alex Stein]

But a lot of people read the Epstein files. A lot of them were using coded language, and so we should investigate that. But using coded language. They do that on purpose so that they can get away with these crimes that they are committing secretly on an island. So some of it is probably hard to go. And you Know, you know, but retroactively go and prosecute for some of these crimes that, yeah, they're sending weird emails, but they need, like, more concrete evidence. But I do want more arrests. I agree with you. I think we need more.

[Student 4]

Because the thing is, it feels like they're not trying to do anything for right now. He's like, look, we released it so you can get off my back about it. And he's trying to do all this other stuff to, like, distract from the fact that, hey, even if it says he's like, I. I'll agree it says he didn't. He's mentioned a lot, but there's nothing that says he is like, a criminal. Like, nothing is.

[Alex Stein]

There's nothing. Nothing is said he did anything, but

[Student 4]

it kind of feels like he's almost trying to distract from all that stuff to either protect them or not or draw the thing. Draw the attention away from, hey, I was mentioned so many times, which. Yeah, but, like, there was no investigation into it at all.

[Alex Stein]

And I think there was some investigation into it.

[Student 4]

Barely any if all, if at all. And still there's not investigations on half the other people.

[Alex Stein]

Well, I will tell you that we're 15 months into the presidency, so we're at the start of the second quarter, so we still have nearly three full years to figure this out. So we agree that I don't necessarily love the war, but I'm going to support the President. I'm a patriot, and I support all of our men and women in uniform, especially the ones that lost their lives. And I'm not going to poo poo on their legacy for going and defending, you know, our great country.

[Student 4]

I guess we have to agree to disagree.

[Alex Stein]

All right, thank you. Thank you. Give it up for this young man. Okay, now, what do we got over here?

[Caller 1]

What it do?

[Alex Stein]

What's up, brother? What's your name?

[Caller 1]

Carter.

[Alex Stein]

Carter?

[Caller 1]

Yup.

[Alex Stein]

What's up, Carter?

[Caller 1]

You're a Trump supporter?

[Alex Stein]

Big time. The pimp on a blend. Y' all like Trump.

[Caller 1]

Okay, now, me, I don't really like, when I look at a person, I don't take, like, the views and stuff, but I have heard some stuff and I seen some pictures, like, Epstein and stuff. So basically, all I'm saying is, are you supporting, like, pedophilia and, like, tax fraud?

[Alex Stein]

What are you talking about? There's no evidence that he's a pedophile.

[Caller 1]

Trump was really posted up in pictures.

[Alex Stein]

Okay, let me tell you something. I can tell you, you probably got some friends that are in jail, right?

[Caller 1]

What does that have to do with anything?

[Alex Stein]

People that are in jail. Do you have any friends? Do you have any friends that are in jail?

[Caller 1]

Yes, you know I do.

[Alex Stein]

Yeah, I know you do. So I'm saying. So are you guilty of their crimes because you were friend with your friends with them? Answer the question. I'm saying if you know somebody that's in jail that might have been a

[Caller 1]

murderer, you are what you hang around, gang.

[Alex Stein]

Well, they do say birds and feather fly together. But my point is, I'm saying that there's no evidence that he's guilty of being a pedophile.

[Caller 1]

But you did disagree. You are what you hang around. What are you on the island for? That's all they doing.

[Alex Stein]

He never went to the island. He never went to. No, he did not. There's no evidence that he went to the island. Now, Bill Clinton went to the island 27 times.

[Caller 1]

No Democrat or Republican gang.

[Student 1]

I'm in the middle.

[Alex Stein]

I'm just telling you there's no evidence that Donald Trump is a pedophile. And if there was, they would.

[Caller 1]

So what's the pictures and stuff about where he's at?

[Alex Stein]

Mar a Lago. Yeah. Jeffrey Epstein was a member of Mar a Lago. And then once Donald Trump found out that he was a pedophile, he kicked him out of that club.

[Caller 1]

Now, he did that to cover himself.

[Alex Stein]

What are you talking.

[Caller 1]

All he's doing is covering his track.

[Alex Stein's Sidekick/Co-host]

Yeah, he's a billion out that you have a pedophile.

[Alex Stein]

There's a member of your club.

[Alex Stein's Sidekick/Co-host]

Yeah.

[Alex Stein]

You should kick him out. I don't know if that's necessarily covering

[Caller 1]

his tracks, that he was kicking him out. So the rest would be okay. What are you talking about now? You acting like I'm slow.

[Alex Stein]

You think that there's evidence that Donald Trump is raping kids.

[Caller 1]

Positive.

[Alex Stein's Sidekick/Co-host]

And that.

[Caller 1]

And then you're telling me I believe he a criminal. You're telling me he got 34 felonies. Tell me if somebody my skin color had 34 felonies trying to be president with that.

[Alex Stein]

You know anybody that's ever been targeted by a district attorney? Hell yeah.

[Alex Stein's Sidekick/Co-host]

Exactly.

[Alex Stein]

So you know that we have a corrupt judicial system.

[Caller 1]

We do. And that's another problem.

[Alex Stein's Sidekick/Co-host]

So you should be empathetic.

[Caller 1]

The justice system too. No, I don't like none of that.

[Alex Stein's Sidekick/Co-host]

Because he got targeted by crooked district

[Caller 1]

attorneys and the government is against us. The president, the judicial system, everything.

[Alex Stein]

I agree with you on that.

[Caller 1]

I agree with you and that's a problem.

[Alex Stein]

But I'm saying if there was concrete evidence, you're accusing he taking food stamps

[Caller 1]

of everything from poor families. That's another thing. He don't care about the poor. All he care about is maintaining himself

[Alex Stein]

for like Doritos and Pepsi and stuff like that. And I do agree that we should have social services. But what you should get mad about is the illegal immigrants that are coming here and actually taking social services from marginalized communities. But you're not going to talk about that. You're going to be.

[Caller 1]

Look, I talk about illegal immigrants now. I'm okay with them coming in illegally as long as they trying to conserve their life and their families and help themselves.

[Alex Stein]

If you're so big brain, why do

[Alex Stein's Sidekick/Co-host]

you think that there's less ebt?

[Alex Stein]

Why do you think there's less food stamps?

[Caller 1]

Because more people coming in.

[Alex Stein's Sidekick/Co-host]

Exactly. So that's what you're complaining about.

[Caller 1]

That don't have nothing to do because the government steady printing out money for other stuff, useless wars when they can help us out. Immigrants, they didn't even have to do the war. They could have helped us out.

[Alex Stein]

Instead I'm saying, do you not understand the logic that the more illegal immigrants that you have.

[Caller 1]

I'm saying Donald Trump doing other stuff where he can focus on helping out the people here.

[Alex Stein]

Well, I believe Donald Trump is helping other people here.

[Caller 1]

No. Well, his people. Yeah, but my people know.

[Alex Stein]

You think Donald Trump's racist. Is that what you think?

[Caller 1]

Yes. What the hell, bro? His granddad was in the Ku Klux Klan.

[Alex Stein]

Oh my gosh. Listen, there's no evidence that Donald Trump is a racist.

[Caller 1]

Oh, God. His granddad was in the Ku Klux Klan.

[Alex Stein]

Well, I don't know.

[Caller 1]

Look it up. You know it's true. What are you talking about?

[Alex Stein]

Everybody has a racist grandfather. That's just how the world, bro, that is taught.

[Caller 1]

What do you mean? Racism was taught throughout the generations. That shit. Generational.

[Alex Stein]

Johnald Trump has a lot of black employees. He has a lot of.

[Caller 1]

I don't care about none of that. Them folks is public.

[Alex Stein's Sidekick/Co-host]

If he was racist, he wouldn't be

[Alex Stein]

friends with black people. So it just ruined.

[Caller 1]

I love everybody, but I. I will call out racism when I see it.

[Alex Stein]

But you have no evidence of him being racist.

[Caller 1]

I have plenty.

[Alex Stein]

Okay, give me one.

[Caller 1]

I just. Bro, he done literally said the N word before.

[Alex Stein's Sidekick/Co-host]

What?

[Alex Stein]

What? Give me one example of Donald Trump being racist.

[Alex Stein's Sidekick/Co-host]

No, no. Before you leave, give me one example

[Alex Stein]

of Donald Trump being racist.

[Caller 1]

So he ain't never said the N word.

[Alex Stein's Sidekick/Co-host]

There's no evidence that he said the N word. Everybody said the N word. See that's the thing, is you're going to act like a snowflake. You're going to act so sad. No. You're going to say. No, I'm not going to say it now, but I'm saying I don't get

[Caller 1]

offended when they say the N word. But I'm being honest. When you say the N word with the ER test, you are racist. Serious.

[Alex Stein]

You're falsely accusing a guy that you have no evidence of saying the N word, and now you're trying to be sad about it.

[Alex Stein's Sidekick/Co-host]

No, because you would like that. Because you're a victim and you always want to be a victim.

[Alex Stein]

Because you.

[Alex Stein's Sidekick/Co-host]

Because you're not smart enough to realize

[Alex Stein]

that that word is impolite. And I'm not here to be impolite. But because you're a ghetto stiletto queen, you like to be impolite. You like to talk in movie theaters. You like to say the N word. But in polite society, we shouldn't speak like that. Because I have manners. I have respect. Something that you don't have. So that's why you're begging me to say the N word so you can sit here and cry about it, and I'm not gonna, you know, play your reindeer.

[Caller 1]

Now, look, we might not be friends, but can you say that I treated you with respect?

[Alex Stein's Sidekick/Co-host]

Yes.

[Caller 1]

Okay, so other people can do that. My people can treat others with respect. Like, we don't have to be ghetto. We just get ghetto when folks don't listen.

[Alex Stein]

I know, but y' all are getting

[Caller 1]

ghetto when folks don't listen. When folks don't listen. So start listening.

[Alex Stein]

I'm just saying.

[Caller 1]

I'm talking about the government in general.

[Alex Stein]

Break the stereotypes. You don't have to crash out every second you get mad.

[Caller 1]

So that's how we know. That's how we met, bro. Because of y'.

[Alex Stein's Sidekick/Co-host]

All.

[Caller 1]

This been taught through y'.

[Alex Stein]

All.

[Caller 1]

Y' all put drugs in our community to ruin us. I'm not talking about you, bro. I'm talking about the government.

[Alex Stein's Sidekick/Co-host]

What are you talking about now? My dad's a drug dealer. Give me a break.

[Caller 1]

Y' all just talking about the government, bro. You know, y' all are just trying

[Alex Stein's Sidekick/Co-host]

to falsely blame me for something I never did, and that's. That's why you guys got it.

[Caller 1]

I'm not blaming you. I'm blaming who you support and the people you support in that party and

[Alex Stein]

the people who was around before never victimized you. But you just label me that? I'm selling drugs to you now.

[Alex Stein's Sidekick/Co-host]

I mean, come on, dude. That's so far out of left field.

[Alex Stein]

I've never sold anybody any drugs.

[Alex Stein's Sidekick/Co-host]

You're the one that said it. You're the one that said it.

[Alex Stein]

So my point is.

[Caller 1]

No, I did say they put drugs in our community way back when. Like in the 70s and 80s.

[Alex Stein's Sidekick/Co-host]

Yeah, but there's a lot of black drug dealers now too.

[Caller 1]

You think?

[Alex Stein's Sidekick/Co-host]

Yeah, I don't know. Why do they sell?

[Caller 1]

Because of that. They taught us that. And then white people, kids was getting raised up and that's all they were seeing. And there was no real fathers in the community. All the thugs, everybody was in jail because they was trying to feed their family.

[Alex Stein]

No, I understand that. Somebody that wants to make a living. But it's not a white person's fault that your friend is selling weed. It's not. It's not a white person's fault.

[Caller 1]

I didn't say that was a white person's fault. I said that was just people on white people. I did not blame that on white people. Not all white people are part of the CEA or the government. It's some great white people. I love everybody. All I'm saying is the people who are doing this stuff on purpose because this is a system.

[Alex Stein]

Yeah.

[Student 1]

Why do you like.

[Caller 1]

I swear to God they not everything that's going on is not just because all of this stuff.

[Alex Stein]

I agree with you that there are traps out there that can always multiple

[Caller 1]

people and they've been set up for that. But for us to go to jail, they love us in jail. They get paid for this.

[Alex Stein]

And you know young people that are your age that have been really successful that didn't have any issues. So it's a lot of self accountability. And there is part of it, nature versus nurture. If you have a hard, you know, nature surrounding, it's going to make you a little harder. And if you're nurtured a little more and you're giving a leg up, it's going to make things easier. But life is not fair. You have to overcome those obstacles.

[Caller 1]

That's true.

[Alex Stein]

And I think that a little suffering actually makes you stronger. Future struggles, you're able to overcome them easier. So life's not supposed to be a rose garden. You were never promised a rose garden.

[Caller 1]

You ain't lying. But look, one thing I'm gonna do, I'm teaching my people. Go to college, get educated. That's what they don't want.

[Alex Stein]

We agree. Clap for that guy. I agree with you. Go to college. Now. Things were a little spicy, but I'm telling you, after the break, it gets even crazier. I mean, this guy's yelling at me. You can't understand half of what he's saying, but trust me, it's entertaining. That's coming up right after this.

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Welcome back to after hours on Real America Sports Voice.

[Alex Stein]

You're watching After Hours with Alex Stein right here on Real America's Voice. And we got more of this special edition. Alex Stein versus Arkansas State. And watch this kid get totally dominated by yours truly. Okay, what do you got for us? What's your name?

[Student 1]

Bryson Brown.

[Alex Stein]

What's up, Bryson Brown?

[Student 1]

So the first thing you said to me was that I'm an African American and I don't have to worry about ice. But one of the first people to be killed by ICE was Keith Jones.

[Alex Stein]

What was he doing? Did he have his criminal record?

[Student 1]

It was New Year's Eve. He was shooting a gun in the air, and an off duty ICE agent killed him. Shooting a gun in the air, that is part of the constitution. Are you gonna let me respond or are you gonna yell? Are you gonna let me respond? Are you gonna yell? Are you gonna let me respond or are you gonna yell? Exactly.

[Alex Stein's Sidekick/Co-host]

But think about how illogical that is.

[Student 1]

Are you gonna let me respond? Are you gonna let me respond? Are you gonna let me respond?

[Alex Stein's Sidekick/Co-host]

You're not legally allowed to shoot a gun in the air on New Year's Eve. That's not legal. I'm sorry to break it to you just because your family's been doing that for years. It's still illegal to shoot off a gun in the air because guess what, sweetie? Those bullets fall down and sometimes they hit people. Yeah, I don't do it. I've never shot off a gun in

[Alex Stein]

the air on New Year's Eve.

[Student 1]

My point was that you're incorrect by saying I don't have to worry about ICE because of ice.

[Alex Stein's Sidekick/Co-host]

Yeah, you don't have to worry about ICE if you're not shooting a gun in the air to celebrate New Year's. You'll be totally fine.

[Student 1]

I have to worry about ice when

[Alex Stein]

I'm holding a phone.

[Alex Stein's Sidekick/Co-host]

The only reason that Alex Freddy held

[Student 1]

a phone and he got shot. Freddie held a phone and he got shot.

[Alex Stein]

Alex Brady had a gun in his

[Student 1]

back waistband that he didn't reach for.

[Alex Stein's Sidekick/Co-host]

Let's just.

[Student 3]

Let's.

[Student 1]

Okay, so you want to. You.

[Alex Stein's Sidekick/Co-host]

You can't use logic.

[Alex Stein]

No, I'm refuting your point.

[Alex Stein's Sidekick/Co-host]

He didn't get killed because he's black. He got killed because he was shooting a gun in the air. I don't know how you can't understand that.

[Student 1]

I'm gonna get shot. You want. No.

[Alex Stein's Sidekick/Co-host]

I would get shot, too, if I shot a gun in the air. Yes. Dude, you're talking about a hypothetical situation

[Alex Stein]

that you don't know what would happen if I shot a gun off in air.

[Student 1]

Were incorrect.

[Alex Stein's Sidekick/Co-host]

White people go to jail, too.

[Alex Stein]

Did you know that?

[Alex Stein's Sidekick/Co-host]

You know, white people go to jail, too.

[Student 1]

Second point that was also incorrect is that ICE agents are police officers. I say police officers.

[Alex Stein]

They're a part of law enforcement.

[Student 1]

Okay, that's not what you said, though.

[Alex Stein]

Well, they're part of law enforcement.

[Alex Stein's Sidekick/Co-host]

Regardless. They are legally allowed to detain people

[Alex Stein]

if they are an illegal alien. So they are a part of law enforcement.

[Student 1]

So I was right about to detain illegal aliens, but not American citizens. So why are they detained?

[Alex Stein's Sidekick/Co-host]

Well, they're allowed to react.

[Alex Stein]

If they see a black guy shooting a gun off, he might be shooting a crowd of people. You're allowed to protect. You're allowed to protect American citizens.

[Alex Stein's Sidekick/Co-host]

That's not what's going on.

[Alex Stein]

You're out of touch with reality, and your brain is broken. And you are believing. Believing lies. And you're under propaganda, young man. And that's. I'm not. I'm trying to come to a middle ground. No, that's not a middle ground. You're the one. You're the one that's crashing out. I think that you're the one that's spreading more hate in Division. Yeah, but don't be a snowflake don't be a snowflake. A lot of people hurt your feelings, you know, you don't have to crash out.

[Alex Stein's Sidekick/Co-host]

Just because your feelings got hurt doesn't

[Alex Stein]

mean you got to crash out like that.

[Student 1]

So you're talking about crashing out when I gave you a point that was factually correct. You immediately overly well, I crash out.

[Alex Stein]

I crash out. I'm the pimp on a blimp. You don't know who I am. I'm Primetime 99. I'm the king of all crash outs. But listen, I. I just want to make this point. ICE is never going to deport you. But if you do go shoot a gun off on New Year's, there is a chance that they might kill you. And that's the reality of the situation.

[Student 1]

You support ice, correct?

[Alex Stein]

Yes, I support ice.

[Student 1]

You support everything ICE is doing, correct?

[Alex Stein]

Well, I mean, do I support every single ICE agent?

[Student 1]

Do you support everything?

[Alex Stein]

That's way too reductive and oversimplified. But do I, Do I like corrupt ICE agents? Is there corrupt police officers? Is there corrupt FBI agents? In every single division there is some sort of corruption? Circumvent my point because it's a nuanced answer. It's not just yes or no. Not everything's black and white. I support ice, but I don't support every single action that they take. Yes, I'll give you that. I'll say I support over 80%. Yeah, probably 90%.

[Student 1]

90%.

[Alex Stein]

Yeah.

[Student 1]

So you think killing, attacking, injuring Americans?

[Alex Stein]

If a guy's shooting a gun. If a guy's shooting a gun in the air, yeah. They can respond to that.

[Student 1]

Can I finish? Starting.

[Alex Stein]

You're going to go ahead.

[Student 1]

You support ice, Killing, injuring, deporting, attacking American citizens that are legally here that are shooting guns. Can I finish my point? No. Can I finish my point?

[Alex Stein's Sidekick/Co-host]

The one example you have of somebody

[Alex Stein]

getting killed by ICE was a guy shooting a gun. I'm not feeding my ego.

[Alex Stein's Sidekick/Co-host]

Okay? Ask a question. Go ahead. I'm not going to not let you ask a question. But, dude, you're trying to tell me.

[Alex Stein]

Dude, you're trying to put words in my mouth. You're trying to tell me what I support. Okay. What do you. What do you have to say that's so smart? Let me hear it.

[Student 1]

Do you agree with ice? Attacking, killing, deporting, assaulting American immigrants and American citizens and legal immigrants trying to go to courthouses and get their citizenship and protesting the illegal things that they're doing? Do you support that?

[Alex Stein]

That's not happening.

[Student 1]

So, Alex Brady Wasn't at a protest.

[Alex Stein]

Yeah, he was at a protest, but then he got in a fight with a cop.

[Alex Stein's Sidekick/Co-host]

I'm saying you will not get shot by a cop.

[Alex Stein]

You will not get stuck. You will never ever be the victim of police brutality if you don't go and shut. There's videos of Alex Preddy kicking, kicking the car. He had a gun on him. He's not. You're acting like he's some boy scout when you're kicking, when you touch an officer, that's considered assault. If you touch a cop's gun, they can shoot you. So I know there's different rules for cops. I'm just saying if potentially they felt threatened that he was grabbing for the gun. That's what happens in that video. They said.

[Student 1]

Why are you adding information? That isn't necessary.

[Alex Stein]

He didn't touch a cops gun though.

[Student 1]

He didn't touch a cop's gun though.

[Alex Stein]

Listen, we're arguing.

[Student 1]

He didn't touch a cop's gun though.

[Alex Stein]

You will be safe if you don't argue semantics.

[Student 1]

Because this country is built on semantics. It's built on words written on paper by people in power.

[Alex Stein]

You're so out of touch with reality that you think I'm out of touch with reality.

[Student 1]

You support a president that's unconstitutional.

[Alex Stein]

It's legal to shoot a gun off in the air on New Year's. Like that's, that's how little you know about the law.

[Student 1]

I don't think it's legal. I don't think you should be killed for exercising your second amendment right.

[Alex Stein]

But you can't legally shoot a gun.

[Student 1]

And I don't think it's legal. I don't think you should be killed. I don't think it's legal. I don't think you should be killed for exercising your constitutional rights.

[Alex Stein]

Yeah, but shooting the gun. You can own the gun, but shooting the gun neighborhoods is not protected by the constitution.

[Student 1]

You think it's legal for an off duty ICE agent, immigration to shoot an American citizen because he shot a firearm? He is not a police officer. Yes, he is not a police officer. Yeah, I think he is not a police officer.

[Alex Stein]

ICE is supposed to deal with immigration people, the bullets.

[Student 1]

He is not a police officer. ICE deals with immigration babies. Call the police. He's off duty. He wasn't even on the clock.

[Alex Stein's Sidekick/Co-host]

Good for him. So that's what I'm saying. He's an American patriot. He cares about protecting the citizens of this country.

[Alex Stein]

Something that you don't care about.

[Student 1]

Call the police. Go. Go about the Proper channel.

[Alex Stein's Sidekick/Co-host]

Active shooting situation.

[Alex Stein]

You sometimes have to react. You don't get to just call in

[Student 1]

an active shooter situation. The first thing they do is call the proper authorities.

[Alex Stein]

The guy was in an active shooting situation. That's why

[Alex Stein's Sidekick/Co-host]

status that had nothing to

[Alex Stein]

do with the color of his skin.

[Student 1]

Was not the only person shooting a gun that day on New Year's Eve. He was not.

[Alex Stein's Sidekick/Co-host]

Still. He's still.

[Student 1]

He was. It's still the only person killed by an off duty ICE agent.

[Alex Stein]

Do you want people in your neighborhood. Immigration agent, Let me ask you a question. Are you okay with people just shooting off guns in your neighborhood?

[Student 1]

That's not the point.

[Alex Stein]

That is the point.

[Student 1]

Is that Immigration.

[Alex Stein]

I just want to get this.

[Student 1]

That's not the point though.

[Alex Stein]

Are you okay?

[Student 1]

That's not the point.

[Alex Stein]

People taking a gun.

[Student 1]

That's not the point.

[Alex Stein]

Shooting it. It.

[Student 1]

It is not fair for you to come on our campus and attack us for our points when you have no points.

[Alex Stein]

My point is you won't even answer the question. Is it okay for a guy to get a gun and shoot it off in your neighborhood?

[Student 1]

Sure.

[Alex Stein]

Okay. Exactly. You're ghetto. And that stupid.

[Student 1]

I'm ghetto.

[Alex Stein's Sidekick/Co-host]

Cool.

[Alex Stein]

Yeah, cool.

[Student 1]

You're not a patriot. You're a traitor.

[Alex Stein]

Well, you're ghetto.

[Student 1]

And you're not a patriot.

[Alex Stein]

You're a tract of shooting situation.

[Student 1]

You're not a patriot. You're a traitor.

[Alex Stein]

Good for you.

[Student 1]

You're a traitor.

[Alex Stein]

Yeah, okay. I'm a traitor. Your values encourages people to shoot off guns. Guns in your neighborhood.

[Student 1]

Your values come from people you don't agree with.

[Alex Stein]

I love this country and I want to protect. No, you don't.

[Student 1]

You love an unconstitutional president. That's not loving this country.

[Alex Stein's Sidekick/Co-host]

That is unconstitutional.

[Student 1]

Putting us in a war that we weren't involved in is unconstitutional because he subverted Congress. He didn't go through the proper channels. That's unconstitutional.

[Alex Stein]

Troops. We've only. We've only done air support, so we don't have ground troops. So it's not technically a war. It is on their side. They're calling it a war. But for us.

[Student 1]

He calls it a war himself.

[Alex Stein]

Congressional permission.

[Student 1]

He calls it a war himself.

[Alex Stein]

Well, we don't.

[Student 1]

He calls it a war himself. Well, you agree with what he said, so you should call it a war. Right, because he called it a war regardless. Oh, okay. You don't have a point.

[Alex Stein]

I'm saying you're acting like you don't want war, but yet you. I don't want to shoot off guns in your neighborhood.

[Student 1]

I Don't want war. He ran on no war and then started two wars.

[Alex Stein]

You're being very hypocritical. You're offending because you're defending people shooting off guns in your neighborhood. Like that's normal.

[Student 1]

That's not war.

[Alex Stein]

Should be better.

[Student 1]

Constitutional.

[Alex Stein]

That is war. Shooting a gun off in a neighborhood is a form of war. No, shooting a gun in the neighborhood is a form of warfare.

[Student 1]

Yeah, I was shooting a gun into the air on New Year's Eve.

[Alex Stein]

You don't know if he's doing gang violence. So, yeah, shooting a gun is not a cool thing.

[Student 1]

You don't know if a man shooting a gun into the air on New Year's Eve, celebrating with his family, is doing gang violence or celebrating New Year's Eve. Is that what you just said?

[Alex Stein]

Bullets don't go to space?

[Student 1]

Is that what you just said?

[Alex Stein]

They don't go to space?

[Student 1]

Well, that's just basic physics, so.

[Alex Stein]

I'm just saying I don't think you know basic physics. I don't think you know.

[Student 1]

You don't think I know? Basically, I pass physics with an A, buddy. Well, I doubt that, but I bet you do. You don't have any real points. You just throw insults.

[Alex Stein]

You're literally here defending gun violence.

[Student 1]

You're literally here defending an unconstitutional president, calling yourself a patriot. How's he not unconstitutional?

[Alex Stein's Sidekick/Co-host]

He loves this country.

[Alex Stein]

Compared to our last, he is a

[Student 1]

convicted felon and he's in office. Felons can't even vote.

[Alex Stein]

Do you agree that. That the Department of Justice is corrupt?

[Student 1]

Yes, he's the most corrupt one.

[Alex Stein's Sidekick/Co-host]

So he was a big victim.

[Student 1]

He appointed the Department of Justice. And you agree with them?

[Alex Stein]

You should be empathetic to Donald Trump.

[Student 1]

Because how would I be empathetic to someone that's not?

[Alex Stein]

People that have been targeted by corrupt district attorneys?

[Student 1]

Why would I be empathetic to someone that's not empathetic to me?

[Alex Stein]

What is Donald Trump done to you?

[Student 1]

Yeah, he's done stuff to my people that look like me. What is he denied?

[Alex Stein]

Yeah, what is he.

[Student 1]

Can I finish? Yeah, he's denied people that look like me housing. Before he became a politician, when he was in a real estate. Y' all love bringing up how he was in the real estate.

[Alex Stein]

He denied some Section 8 people that had a criminal history.

[Student 1]

Why are they Section eight people? You assume I'm Section eight because I'm black, that's why. Your point?

[Alex Stein]

You're saying he's racist because he doesn't want people that have criminal records to

[Student 1]

stay in his building, people didn't have criminal records. That's why he got sued and lost.

[Alex Stein]

Well, first of all, that's why he

[Student 1]

got sued and lost.

[Alex Stein]

I don't even know if he got sued and lost.

[Student 1]

That's why they. That's why it was unconstitutional. That's why he was wrong.

[Alex Stein]

The outcome of it.

[Student 1]

He got sued and lost. The weather doesn't even agree with you.

[Alex Stein]

Yeah, but it's not his job. The weather doesn't even agree with Trump's responsibility to give you cheap housing.

[Student 1]

I hate that Donald Trump got sued and lost.

[Alex Stein]

Well, a lot of people get sued and lose. That doesn't mean he's wrong. It's because a jury could be wrong. A district attorney could be corrupt, believe it or not.

[Student 1]

So the district attorney is corrupt.

[Alex Stein]

Now jail that were innocent, but they

[Student 1]

weren't corrupt before, or were they always corrupt?

[Alex Stein]

Always been corrupt.

[Student 1]

So they've always been corrupt. So everybody in power is corrupt, including Donald Trump. Thank you.

[Alex Stein]

Okay, you want black people to keep shooting guns in your neighborhood? Get your gun. Big brain logic. I mean, you guys can be honest. I want you to tweet at me. Did you like that last kid? Do you think he won that debate? I don't think they did. I think I dominated. But I want to get your opinion. Tweet me @Alex Stein99 on Twitter. I want to get your opinion, guys. Coming up after the break, things are the craziest they've been all day. I don't. I can't even describe it. It's so crazy. You don't want to miss it. That'll be right up after this. Thank you guys so much for staying up late with us. Right here on Real America's Voice, you're watching After Hours with Alex Stein. Alex Stein versus Arkansas State. And you know why I dominated all my debates tonight? Because it's little. This little tiny 8 ounce can right here. Actually 12 ounce. I don't even know how to read 12 ounces. Even better. That's a better value. That's a better deal. Well, if you guys want my secret juice, you drink this. It gives you the ability to speak fast, speak strong, and speak smart. Even though that doesn't sound very smart. Just trust me, take my word for it, and you'll be able to own all the libtards on any college campus across America. If you got primetime Alex Stein's Secret Soldier Fuel debate juice, as well as it helps our soldiers on the battlefield. So if you're like, you know, construction worker or something, you need A little pick me up before work or after work. This is my go to and it should be your go to as well. Go to buy soldierfuel.com and pick up a case. And if you guys enjoy it, you want to be on the show, go to soldierfuel.comchallenge, upload a video of yourself drinking Soldier Fuel. And if we like the video, we're going to play it on the show and send you a free case of Soldier Fuel. So go support us. Support Rav and support Soldier Fuel because part of all of the proceeds go to actually help our military veterans. Well, speaking of our military veterans, I feel like some of these students are going to have PTSD after they're done debating primetime Alex Stein, especially this student coming up up right now. You got for us.

[Caller 1]

Like, I ain't gonna lie. I don't even want to debate with you. I just want to check your on. God, like, what's up? My retired airplane driver looking mine. Dumpster juice cologne.

[Alex Stein's Sidekick/Co-host]

You're trying to check me.

[Alex Stein]

Dude, look how ratchet you look.

[Alex Stein's Sidekick/Co-host]

Your hair looks ratchet. You can't even grow.

[Alex Stein]

Dude, you're the most.

[Alex Stein's Sidekick/Co-host]

Ratchet looks nappy as hell. I know you're ashy as hell, too. I know you're ashy. I know you're ashy. I know you got a bigger nose in your. Look at your nose. You got blind my daddy look. Dude, you got the biggest nose in this whole place. And I like cheeseburgers. You like cheeseburger. Maybe if we could understand what you're

[Alex Stein]

saying, they would laugh more. But campus right now.

[Alex Stein's Sidekick/Co-host]

Look at you. Look at your professor. Where you get that? Which food bank did they give you that? Well, say potato face on God. And what. And what do you look like? Call me ugly. You know I'm a sexy man. No, no, I'm sexy. You know, Barbecue, sushi eating. I know. See, this is what black. This is what black guy does. He can't have an event, so you got to come here. I know way more racist stuff than me. Now you're making fun of black people. You're the racist. That's not racist. Okay, you keep going me ugly. You got stains on your shirt. You got those criminal Air force. Those are probably. You don't have a watch. You got no jewelry. You got no motion. You got no motion. Sh. Team. Dude, quit talking about people's noses. Listen, I love it.

[Alex Stein]

I just wish I could understand anything you were saying. I wish you could speak English. You can check me.

[Alex Stein's Sidekick/Co-host]

It's all love. It's all love. It's all good.

[Alex Stein]

It's all good. All right. All right. Now what do you want?

[Student 1]

You were incorrect because you said vice isn't detaining Americans. There are 1717 0.

[Alex Stein]

I said they're not killing Americans, which I'm not.

[Student 1]

No, you said they weren't detaining Americans. You have it on video.

[Alex Stein]

You said arrest. They're not arresting people. Yeah, they might detain people and check their immigration status, find somebody's immigration status. But being detained and being arrested are different. You know that, right?

[Student 1]

So you agree they're detaining American citizens? They shouldn't be doing that.

[Alex Stein]

Finding out their immigration status and then letting them go. I agree with you on that. But do you know.

[Student 1]

So you agree they shouldn't be detaining American citizens?

[Alex Stein's Sidekick/Co-host]

No. Sometimes they have to check people.

[Student 1]

You agree?

[Alex Stein's Sidekick/Co-host]

No, I don't agree with that. Because they have to check people's immigration status. Once they find out they're an American

[Alex Stein]

citizen, they let them go. They're not arrested. So the fact that you know the difference.

[Student 1]

George Rady's a US Veteran.

[Alex Stein's Sidekick/Co-host]

I know you've been detained a lot.

[Alex Stein]

I know you've been detained a lot and probably arrested.

[Student 1]

If I was an illegal immigrant, I have every right to do that.

[Alex Stein]

You're being ignorant to the fact that being detained and arrested and deported are not the same thing.

[Student 1]

Shouldn't be detaining me.

[Alex Stein]

I get detained all by cops. That doesn't mean I got arrested being.

[Student 1]

Oh, you're a criminal.

[Alex Stein]

Cool. Yeah, I'm a bad boy and the pimp on a blend. But I'm saying when a cop detains you on a traffic stop, that doesn't mean you got arrested. That means they're going to check your background, make sure you don't have warrants. So when you don't have warrants or

[Student 1]

you're a legal citizen, you agree with detaining American citizens?

[Alex Stein]

Detaining them? Yes.

[Student 1]

Detaining American citizens after. After they present their papers proving they're American citizens. You agree with them being detained.

[Alex Stein's Sidekick/Co-host]

That's not what's happening.

[Student 1]

That is what's happening.

[Alex Stein]

You're just making that up.

[Student 1]

I have the source right here.

[Alex Stein]

Once show your proof of citizenship, they let you go. That's how it works. You're just making stuff up.

[Student 1]

ProPublica.org and then confirmed by Congress.

[Alex Stein]

Yeah, people are getting detained.

[Student 1]

ProPublica.org confirmed by Congress.

[Alex Stein]

Please refute that source. Deported don't mean the same thing.

[Student 1]

You're going off last names. That's Blatant prejudice and racism.

[Alex Stein]

No, I'm not going off last.

[Student 1]

Leonardo Garcia Veneguez. He proved himself a US Citizen with his real ID that stated his citizenship, which was dismissed by agents and they called it fake.

[Alex Stein]

Yeah, they might have thought it was a fake id, but they didn't. He didn't get arrested.

[Alex Stein's Sidekick/Co-host]

He got.

[Student 1]

He was detained into a camp.

[Alex Stein's Sidekick/Co-host]

See, you're two.

[Student 1]

He was detained and put into a camp.

[Alex Stein]

Getting detained. He was detained, but it's not the same thing. I hate to break it to you.

[Student 1]

A cop, he was detained and put into a camp. And you agree with that? He was detained and put into a

[Alex Stein's Sidekick/Co-host]

case of one of these cops being detained.

[Student 1]

Yeah.

[Alex Stein's Sidekick/Co-host]

Mr.

[Alex Stein]

Officer here.

[Alex Stein's Sidekick/Co-host]

Yeah. Can you tell them the difference between

[Alex Stein]

being detained and arrested? Let's see if any officer.

[Student 1]

Officer back there come over.

[Alex Stein]

Yeah.

[Alex Stein's Sidekick/Co-host]

Can you guys explain what the difference is?

[Student 1]

No.

[Alex Stein's Sidekick/Co-host]

This guy is. He doesn't understand that being detained is not the same thing. Well, is being arrested the same as

[Student 1]

being detained and put into an internment camp?

[Alex Stein]

They're not.

[Student 1]

Is cool.

[Student 2]

He's fine with that.

[Alex Stein]

We don't have internment camps. We don't have internment camps.

[Student 1]

US Citizen that proved their citizenship to be arrested with an internment.

[Alex Stein]

They're not getting arrested. They're not getting arrested. Okay. All right, all right. You're just making stuff up. You don't. Look, I'm making stuff up.

[Student 1]

There's proven sources getting my information.

[Alex Stein]

I never said that. You're misrepresenting what I said.

[Student 1]

I'm. You just said I made it up.

[Alex Stein]

You. There's.

[Student 1]

10 seconds ago you said I made it up.

[Alex Stein]

Being arrested are not the same thing.

[Student 1]

Being detained and put in an internment camp doesn't count as an arrest.

[Alex Stein]

Not an internment camp. That doesn't count as an arrest. When you get arrested, you get charged with a crime. Did you get charged with a crime?

[Student 1]

So when people. Not me, because I've never been detained. When police take you and don't charge you, when that's not an arrest and they let you processed and your fingerprints

[Alex Stein's Sidekick/Co-host]

are put in the system, that means you get charged. But he was not charged with a crime.

[Alex Stein]

He was not charged with a crime because it's illegal. Once they realized his immigration status, they didn't charge him with a crime. Do you understand that?

[Alex Stein's Sidekick/Co-host]

Do you understand that being detained and being arrested are not the same thing? You don't understand the difference between being detained and being arrested.

[Student 1]

You don't understand the Constitution.

[Alex Stein's Sidekick/Co-host]

You're too young.

[Alex Stein]

You've never actually had any world experience. So you don't understand the difference.

[Student 1]

So if we're too young to debate you, why are you here? To feed your ego?

[Alex Stein]

No, I'm not here to feed my ego. I'm here to try to wake some people up. And you're the one that's coming here

[Student 1]

and acting like some people up.

[Alex Stein]

Yeah, I want to wake to be luck to the truth.

[Alex Stein's Sidekick/Co-host]

Truth.

[Alex Stein]

You know, some hard truth.

[Student 1]

But you don't want to listen to the sources when you're proven wrong.

[Alex Stein]

You don't understand the difference.

[Student 1]

You don't want to listen to the sources when you're.

[Alex Stein's Sidekick/Co-host]

You don't want to listen to me either. You don't want to listen to me. So you're not listening to me.

[Student 1]

You're listening to your government.

[Alex Stein]

You're saying, understand the difference between detained and arrested.

[Student 1]

I looked, I. I found it.

[Alex Stein]

You don't know the difference. You don't know.

[Student 1]

Basically proven by Congress.

[Alex Stein]

Basic information.

[Student 1]

He's not listening to me. You're not listening to the people you're defending detain.

[Alex Stein's Sidekick/Co-host]

Because I'm saying temporarily said something better than.

[Alex Stein]

You don't agree with it, so you say it.

[Alex Stein's Sidekick/Co-host]

Know the difference between that it's stupid

[Student 1]

not to agree with the people you agree with.

[Alex Stein's Sidekick/Co-host]

No, you're too stupid because you don't know the difference between being arrested and said it.

[Student 1]

You agree with Congress. You don't agree with it because I said it.

[Alex Stein]

Being detained. Being detained and arrested and charged with a crime are two different things. And it's always better to be detained and let go than.

[Student 1]

I found you the charge of 170 US citizens proving my point earlier.

[Alex Stein]

Yes, I think they should be detained and then they run out there.

[Student 1]

US citizens should be detained.

[Alex Stein's Sidekick/Co-host]

Every person that gets pulled over in

[Alex Stein]

a car is technically detained until the cop realizes if they're a criminal or not by running a background check. That's how the real world works, buddy. I'm sorry to break it to you, but we don't live in La La land that's not running a background check on New Year's. And it's okay because it's.

[Student 1]

You keep bringing up that point and

[Alex Stein's Sidekick/Co-host]

it's not even how disconnected with reality

[Alex Stein]

you are and how disconnected IQ.

[Student 1]

All of Trump's 34 felonies were a hit piece. But I'm disconnected from reality.

[Alex Stein's Sidekick/Co-host]

You will not listen to basic logic

[Alex Stein]

that being detained is not the same as being.

[Student 1]

Basic logic is hurling insults when you're proven wrong by sources that you have

[Alex Stein]

been proven wrong one time by you. You've literally just put Words in my mouth that I didn't even say and then try to prove that wrong. So you know the difference between being detained?

[Student 1]

You didn't say that you agree with ICE detaining Americans after they presented their information.

[Alex Stein]

I'm okay with anybody being detained. And then once they.

[Student 1]

After they presented their information, you're.

[Alex Stein]

They do a background check on the person and they realize that they don't have.

[Student 1]

And you think that's constitutional?

[Alex Stein]

That is constitutional. That is constitutional.

[Student 1]

You think that's constitutional that you and not charged you a US Citizen? Yeah, I'm not even using any. You a US Citizen? Not even a veteran. Just some random dude that came out college campus is a fetus ego. But just some random person a US Citizen presents his identification, presents all his papers.

[Alex Stein]

Yes.

[Student 1]

They throw that out out and say that you're an illegal immigrant, that you're temporarily because of the way you look.

[Alex Stein]

That's not what they say. They say you're temporarily detained until we find out your immigration status. And once they find out the immigration status, you're free to go. That's what called being detained is being arrested is when I hold you in a cell and then they charge you with a crime that you have to go to court for.

[Student 1]

Why not go the proper channel? I've been nothing but respectful to this man.

[Alex Stein's Sidekick/Co-host]

You haven't been respectful.

[Alex Stein]

You haven't listened to one.

[Student 1]

Ignorant is not an instinct. Insult. Ignorance is a state of mind.

[Alex Stein]

Then you're ignorant then if it's not insult, you're the most ignorant guy on this campus.

[Student 1]

So I'm the most ignorant guy on this campus?

[Alex Stein]

Yes, he is. You don't know the difference between being detained.

[Student 1]

So do you being harassed? Do you get paid for this or is this just what you do in your free time? Harass college students?

[Alex Stein]

I'm not harassing you. You're the one that's harassing. I just got a table. If you understood the First Amendment, which you probably don't, is that we have

[Student 1]

freedom, insults and college students trying to better themselves and you know, stand up for their communities is standing up for your community. Yes.

[Alex Stein]

And defending people shooting off guns on New Year's, is that standing up for your community?

[Student 1]

So why do you keep bringing why do you keep bringing up the guns?

[Alex Stein's Sidekick/Co-host]

It shows you how ignorant you are.

[Alex Stein]

You think it's okay for.

[Student 1]

Why do you keep bringing up the guns though?

[Alex Stein's Sidekick/Co-host]

Because I'm trying to wake you up.

[Student 1]

I'm trying to wake you up.

[Alex Stein]

And you don't realize gun violence is a very bad thing.

[Student 1]

But you have this form of thinking to where if something you don't even have to finish speaking because you don't

[Alex Stein's Sidekick/Co-host]

know how to form an argument.

[Student 1]

So I can't finish speaking because you don't know how to form an argument. That's cool.

[Alex Stein]

I've literally formed all my arguments. All right, let's do the next person. Exactly.

[Alex Stein's Sidekick/Co-host]

He's wrong.

[Student 1]

I'm right.

[Alex Stein]

You're dumb.

[Student 1]

Is.

[Alex Stein]

Oh, you are. And you're obese. I hope you guys enjoyed Alex Stein versus Arkansas State. I know that last debate got pretty intense, but at the end, we're able to shake hands and basically become friends. And that's what it's all about, finding that common ground. And, guys, if you love the show, please support real America's music as well. We got a great song. It is top of the charts. The one, the only new in with every star, every stripe taking us home tonight. And we'll see you tomorrow night.

[Alex Stein's Sidekick/Co-host]

Actually, we'll see you Monday. See you Monday.

[Alex Stein]

Love you guys. Peace.

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