AFTER HOURS WITH ALEX STEIN ON REAL AMERICA'S VOICE

Summary

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Podcast Summary

Real America’s Voice: "After Hours with Alex Stein"

Host: Alex Stein & Sidekick
Guest: Suleiman Ahmad
Date: February 5, 2026

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Main Theme / Purpose

This episode of "After Hours with Alex Stein" delivers a provocative, no-holds-barred late-night political and cultural conversation. Alex Stein, known for his trolling comedic style and conservative commentary, dives into controversial subjects including the criticism of public figures like Cash Patel, allegations around Jeffrey Epstein and Bill Gates, the Israel–Gaza conflict, debates on what constitutes the "worst crime" (rape vs. murder), and challenging both mainstream media and divisive social narratives. Throughout, Stein cultivates heated exchanges, dark humor, and confrontational but substantive chats with his guest, social media voice Suleiman Ahmad, offering perspectives atypical for conventional conservative talk shows.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. Opening Riff & Banter (00:06 - 01:07)

• Alex opens with characteristic irreverence—provocative jokes, self-promotion as the "undisputed king of trolling," and lampooning both left and right.
• Sets the stage for "spicy" content, introduces Suleiman Ahmad as the night’s guest, jokingly labeled as "terrorist adjacent" for maximal trolling effect.

2. Cash Patel, FBI & "The Hottest Guy in India" Bit (01:07 - 05:33)

• Stein defends friend Cash Patel (FBI Director), discusses the humorous "loss" of Patel’s title as "Hottest Indian Guy" to an "Indian Justin Bieber" (segment features both hosts jokingly singing "Baby").
• Shifts to serious tone: criticizes Patel (and by extension, federal authorities) for not prosecuting elites connected to Jeffrey Epstein.
• Notable quote (Alex Stein, 05:33):
  “I don't know about you, but that word salad literally made no sense to me...if you were the hottest guy from India and then all of a sudden this Indian Justin Bieber came and took your top spot, you would feel some kind of way, too. So think about that. We need to be empathetic to Cash, and we need to give him a little bit of grace.”

2.1 Epstein Case & Accountability Frustrations (04:48 - 12:10)

• Stein reacts to a clip of FBI representative responding vaguely to Brett Baier about Epstein investigations, condemns what he sees as inaction and excuses.
• Hyperbolic humor used to spotlight perceived hypocrisy in law enforcement priorities:
  "Can you please go and arrest some of these pedophiles? I mean, am I being too egregious by calling you out?" (Alex Stein, 05:49)
• Concludes rant with lament on American justice, January 6th prosecutions, and lack of accountability for “the most disgusting human beings...on Epstein Island.”

3. Introducing Suleiman Ahmad: “Terrorist Sympathizer” Conversation Opener (13:12 - 14:25)

• Ahmad called out for purported leftist ("libtard") views and as an “adversary” in the online “propaganda war” over Israel, specifically referencing Ahmad’s popularity and impact via Twitter Spaces.
• Ahmad responds with sardonic coolness, pushes back against characterization, highlights being targeted by Israeli animus (name literally put on an Israeli missile).

4. Antisemitism, Zionism & the Israel Discourse (15:02 - 20:59)

• Stein and Ahmad discuss the accusation of antisemitism as a silencing tool; Ahmad distinguishes critique of Zionism from anti-Jewish sentiment.
• Ahmad challenges binary thinking about anti-Semitism and critiques the International Holocaust Remembrance Alliance (IHRA) definition as overbroad.
• Notable quote (Suleiman Ahmad, 15:54):
  “I say it's a Zionist issue as opposed to a Jewish issue...The reason why they don't want to call those people out is because they want to be continued to be platformed by them.”
• Stein interjects with intentionally exaggerated pro-Israel humor and sexualized references to IDF soldiers, pivots to a nuanced critique about civilian casualties in Gaza—a critique Ahmad expands upon using statistics and the targeting practices of the Israeli military.

5. Gaza, Civilian Casualties & Media on War (18:33 - 22:20)

• Discussion of Israeli military conduct, high civilian casualty rates in Gaza, and how military capacity does not translate to restraint.
• Ahmad: Argues the IDF intentionally maximizes damage; counterpoint to Stein’s golf course sarcasm about "Trump’s Margaritaville" in Gaza, Ahmad rebuts with moral and spiritual objections.

6. Rape vs. Murder: Debate on Moral Hierarchies (24:11 – 35:55)

• Stein and Ahmad engage in an extended, provocative debate: which is morally worse, rape or murder?
• Stein’s position: rape is worse because it irreparably alters a survivor’s life; no "self-defense rape" is possible.
• Ahmad’s position: murder is worse because it’s the total cessation of life—everything else is a branch of existence; engages in rhetoric and logical back-and-forth with Stein, including references to suicide, suffering, and survivor agency.
• Notable quotes:
  • "Your existence is totally affected for the rest of your life [after rape]... Your life is never the same." — Alex Stein [27:56]
  • "[Murder] is the foundation. Existence is the thing that then necessitates the rest." — Suleiman Ahmad [26:24]
• Sidekick interjects with jokes about sexual repression, Sharia law, and cleavage; Ahmad leverages these as points about cultural double standards and “rape apologist” accusations.

7. False Accusations and Social Ramifications (34:38 – 36:25)

• Ahmad notes rape is a uniquely fraught accusation since it can be falsely claimed, whereas death cannot be feigned (save for rare cases like "Epstein didn’t kill himself").
• Both acknowledge weaponization of sexual accusations can destroy lives, with Stein conceding the point that faking death is harder than claiming a “MeToo” moment.

8. Epstein Leaks, Gates Divorce, and Occult/Satanic Allegations (36:42 – 43:42)

• Stein introduces Melinda Gates’ comments on Bill Gates̕ alleged Epstein-linked misconduct; both host and guest interpret Gates family drama as deeply suspicious.
• Ahmad discusses Gates, NDAs, Epstein’s international blackmail role, and involvement of Gulf and Saudi elites in sex trafficking/domination, speculating that “something more...satanic, demonic” happened on Epstein Island.
• Ahmad: “Epstein was...a Mossad operative...The blackmail operations basically getting people of power...was a multinational international blackmailing operation.” [43:42]
• Stein references Jimmy Savile as an example of high-level satanic abuse and broadens the critique to a populist fear of elite networks escaping accountability.

9. Populism, Divide-and-Conquer, and Social Unity (43:42 - 45:21)

• Stein and Ahmad seek common ground: despite deep political, cultural, and religious differences, the real danger is that ordinary people are kept divided by elites.
• Ahmad underscores willingness to debate, the importance of critical journalism, and that disagreement should not mean enmity.

10. Taboos, Hypocrisy & Sharia Law as Satire (45:21 – 47:00)

• Tongue-in-cheek banter about sexual taboos, bestiality accusations, and driving bans for women under Sharia law.
• Ahmad: “Actually I was looking at the data in the United Kingdom, and actually...the figures of bestiality is definitely not brown people doing it.” [46:05]
• Stein, comically: “There are some aspects of Sharia law that are good because these women can’t drive. If we would just limit women from driving, there’d be less traffic, there’d be less accidents...” [46:35] (self-aware, absurdist chauvinism).

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Notable Quotes & Timestamps

Opening & General Tone

• “When the lights go down, the truth comes out.” — Alex Stein [00:06]
• “The undisputed king of trolling.” — Alex Stein [00:24]

On Cash Patel & FBI

• "I don't know about you, but that word salad literally made no sense to me." — Alex Stein [05:33]
• "If you put me in charge of the FBI, I'd be...arresting pedophiles. That's a difference." — Alex Stein [07:38]

On Israel, Zionism & Social Media Warfare

• “They put my name on a missile in Israel.” — Suleiman Ahmad [14:12]
• "I say it's a Zionist issue as opposed to a Jewish issue...” — Suleiman Ahmad [15:54]

On Israel's Military Actions

• "If you're so good at...military drills...why are you killing a lot of people that are under 18 that are not part of Hamas?" — Alex Stein [17:24]
• “If they have the ability, why are they not using that ability in Gaza? Quite clearly they aren't...because they want to cause as much...damage as possible.” — Suleiman Ahmad [20:15]

Rape vs. Murder

• "You don't self-defensively rape somebody." — Alex Stein [24:17]
• "[Murder] is the thing that necessitates the rest of the things, whether it's eating, sleeping, drinking, sex... But the primary foundation...is life." — Suleiman Ahmad [26:24]

On False Accusations vs. Death

• “[With rape] there is a lot of people who lie about it. They...make false claims of rape and abuse.” — Suleiman Ahmad [35:29]

On Epstein, Gates & Blackmail

• “Jeffrey Epstein is a disgusting pedophile and he was inviting people to his island to do...horrendous acts on, on children.” — Alex Stein [37:55]
• “This was a multinational international blackmailing operation. And I think many people forget that important element...” — Suleiman Ahmad [43:42]

On Social Division & Populism

• “We agree and we disagree and then we'll have a conversation afterwards. I don't, I never get emotional about these things...” — Suleiman Ahmad [43:42]
• “This show really is about love...we all kind of fit into the same box. And that's the populist movement.” — Alex Stein [43:41]

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Segment Breaks & Timestamps

• Opening / Banter / “Hottest Indian Guy” — [00:06 - 05:33]
• Cash Patel, Epstein, Fox News — [05:33 – 13:12]
• Guest Introduction: Suleiman Ahmad — [13:12 – 14:25]
• Israel, Antisemitism, Zionism — [14:25 – 20:59]
• Gaza, IDF, Trump Golf Course Banter — [20:59 – 22:20]
• Rape vs. Murder Debate — [24:11 – 35:55]
• False Accusation / “Epstein Is Still Alive” Joke — [35:01 – 36:25]
• Epstein Leaks, Gates Divorce — [36:42 – 43:42]
• Populism, Social Division — [43:42 – 45:21]
• Taboo, Sharia Law, Satirical Close — [45:21 – 47:00]
• Plug for Guest’s Social Media / Final Wrap — [47:00 – End]

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Conclusion

This episode blends comedy, outrage, and genuine debate, using shock-jock tactics to drive conversations about uncomfortable subjects—from elite pedophilia and Middle Eastern geopolitics to racism, false accusations, and rape. Stein and Ahmad exemplify fierce disagreement and spirited consensus, weaving in social media feuds, internet culture, and mainstream media mistrust. Their banter ultimately highlights populist frustration with power structures and a willingness to confront controversial issues head-on, making for a brash but thought-provoking night of alternative political commentary.

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Transcript

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Late night just got dangerous. After Hours with your host, Alex Stein starts right now.

Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to After Hours with Alex Stein. You know where we're at, Real America's Voice. And I just want to say, tonight things are going to get spicy again. We're on round two of having libtards on the show. I can't believe it. But before we get to our next libtard, Suleiman Ahmad, who might or might not be a terrorist, I want to talk about something that is really, you know, affecting Americans. Cash Patel. Now, Cash Patel is the FBI director. He's in a very influential position, and a lot of people are giving him unfair criticism. Cash is a friend of mine. I love Cash. He's a handsome fellow. But I just found out some serious, serious information that Cash Patel is. I mean, he's a little depressed right now. He's down in the dubs. Yes, he has Alexis Wilkins as his girlfriend, and she's a hot babe, but. But at the same exact time, Cash was always known as the hottest Indian guy in the room. But we have information that is going to discredit that claim 100%. So can we please roll the tape? We are announcing the hottest guy in all of India. They call him the Indian Justin Bieber.

[Suleiman Ahmad]

Here's another look right in my eyes My first love broke my heart for the first time and I was like.

[Alex Stein]

Baby, baby, baby All I maybe baby, baby oh like baby, baby, baby oh.

[Suleiman Ahmad]

Don'T you always be mine?

[Alex Stein]

Now, guys, if we're going to have the FBI go down to Minneapolis, we need to get the FBI to Mumbai, India, and throw that guy in jail. Because Cash Patel is never going to be the same until he is back at the top spot. Of the number one hottest Indian guy. And you saw that guy. That guy was hot as hell. I mean, I looked at him. I'm a heterosexual, but, you know, when I see a man like that, I mean, how could you not just kind of swoon over him? You see his swoop, his hair? I mean, it's absolutely intriguing. Like, I just feel like I can't look away. So a lot of people that are criticizing Cash, give him a break. I know that he has a hot girlfriend. I know that he has, you know, a long history of being a very America first patriot. And I know he's one of Donald Trump's loyalist soldiers. But at the same exact time, if you were the hottest guy from India and then all of a sudden this Indian, Justin Bieber came and took your top spot, you would feel some kind of way, too. So think about that. We need to be empathetic to Cash, and we need to give him a little bit of grace. But at the same exact time, we have Cash Patel on record saying that he's probably not going to file any charges on the people that were going to an island with Jeffrey Epstein and doing God knows what. I mean, Bill Gates is trying to slip amoxicillin to his wife, Melinda, ex wife, so that they will not get, what, gonorrhea or chlamydia. And if I was a Hollywood writer and I was writing a script, and I put that at one point, the richest man in the world would have to subversively drug his wife with antibiotics so that they would not get a sexually transmitted disease. They would laugh at me in the writers room. They'd say, this is not real enough. Nobody's going to believe it. But unfortunately, reality is stranger than fiction. So let's hear Brett Baier. I think I said that right. I don't really like Fox News. Fox News honestly sucks, but that's neither here nor there. But Brett actually did an okay job of actually pressing Cash Patel on whether or not we're going to see any charges come out against all of these disgusting human beings that were on Epstein Island. Let's play the clip.

[Suleiman Ahmad]

Do you think that gets to someplace? Does it get to some kind of charges that we don't yet know about?

[FBI Representative (Cash Patel or Attorney General)]

Well, I'm glad he asked that. This FBI, as we'll talk about shortly, has done a record year in protecting and going after those that prey on children and sex trafficking. And we have always said, as the attorney general has always said, if there's any facts or any information about an ongoing matter, please let us know, we will fully investigate it. But I want to remind your audience, the materials that were released were from search warrants from 2007, eight and earlier, and they were strictly confined to certain parameters by those that ran the investigation then. So that's what was collected. We, and not just my FBI, three other FBI's have looked into that material to see if there's any leads to produce, any investigatory leads to prosecute anyone, and we have exhausted that. But we are always open to new information based on the release.

[Alex Stein]

I don't know about you, but that word salad literally made no sense to me. I mean, I think that they have evidence of some of the most influential people in the world going to this island. And Cash Patel is in there. Oh, we're going to just do our investigation, yada, yada, yada. Cash, it's okay. You're not the hottest guy in India anymore, okay? You're here in America. You live in Las Vegas. You're living the life that all of us would love to live with a hot country music sensation as your future bride, hopefully. Can you please go and arrest some of these pedophiles? I mean, am I being too egregious by calling you out? Because, Cash, you are a friend of mine. We've been friends. You've sent me a lot of free merch, and I've really been appreciative of that. You've come on previous shows that I've hosted. I would just really implore you right now. You have this opportunity. And if you do not kind of flip the script in the midterms, if Trump does have an unsuccessful time when it comes to these elections, you're going to be the one on the chopping block. But you can fix all that right now. You can literally fix that by arresting some of these pedophiles. I don't care if they're billionaires. Imagine how, how well received that would be from the public if you actually arrested a guy like Bill Gates. And I'm not saying you have enough evidence to arrest a guy like that, because I'm sure he pretty pretty much is, you know, bulletproof. But at the same exact time, everybody is against child sex trafficking. That is a bipartisan issue that we all agree upon that we do not like that. So you would get support from all of these libtards that disagree with us on most issues. So I'm just begging you, Cash, I know you're a good guy. I know that. And some of the criticisms that I've given you and that everybody else has given you. Some of them are unfair because you look at the murder rate in D.C. that's way down. Shouldn't have been that high in the first place, but that's way down. Overall, I think the country is a much safer place with you working for the FBI. But it's not safe enough. And close but no cigar, brother. And that's the problem, is I like to smoke. You know, I'm the pimp on a blimp. I'm smoking all day long, so I want to be able to have my cigar. And you can make that happen, Cash. So we need you to be the man that has courage and has the cojones. I know you have cojones. I know it. You and Alexis Wilkins. You know, God knows what. I'm sure she knows you have cojones. Show us that you have those by giving us some results. Yes, the murder rate is down, but I'm not afraid of getting murdered in Washington, D.C. i mean, I am sometimes in Dallas when I go to these, you know, transgender protests, but, you know, I digress. Cash, I love you, brother, but we want results. And those results are not just crime stats. Those results are perp walks. We saw all of these January Sixers get walked right into the gulag. Solitary confinement. They didn't really have a fair shot at a trial because you did all the Trials in Washington, D.C. that's the same FBI that you're currently working for. And, yes, you pardon them all, with which we are all very appreciative of. But these people lost their lives. Are they getting any restitution for that? I don't know of any restitution that the government has given them. So a pardon seems like a nice consolation prize. But these people deserve more. The American people deserve more. So I know the Indian, Justin Bieber, has got you kind of in a stranglehold. Let's forget about him. If you want, why don't you send the CIA over there and we just drop an accidental bomb on him or something? I mean, I'm anti war, but you know what I mean. Cash, I love you. I respect you. But I'm asking you right now, please, arrest more people. Jeffrey Epstein is dead, according to you and Dan Bongino, which you know, nobody believes. Ghislaine Maxwell is in a federal prison, just relaxing, playing pickleball. Does that really justify all of the torture that they did to little children? We've read the files. We see that they're going to slice a pizza seven ways. They want to torture people. But you redacted those names. There is clearly evidence. I don't care if it's from 2007. I don't care if it's 1997. 1987. We need to hold these pedophiles accountable. I'm not asking for too much. I'm really not. And trust me, I love favors. If it's free, give me three. That's my motto. But we're just asking for you to do your job and hold these sick, disgusting perverts accountable. They're doing stuff with kids on an island. It's not a Democrat hoax. We have the evidence. We've read the emails. So it's your job right now to step up, buttercup, and do your job. A lot of people would like to have your position. If you put me in charge of the FBI, I'd be on a private jet, too, going to country music, you know, festivals with my girlfriend. But at the same, I would be arresting pedophiles. That's a difference. And I'm not saying I'm better than you. I know your position is very tough, but please, you go on Fox News every day. Nobody wants to see that. Fox News sucks. It's boring. And you need to tell Pam Bondi. You guys going on Fox News does not help our country. You guys can do all the news hits you want. That is not going to help the American people that want to see people go to jail. So just think about this. Look yourself in the mirror and ask yourself, am I protecting pedophiles? And if you're not arresting them, I'm sorry to say it, in a way, you are protecting them. And I know you're a good guy, Cash. I know you're not some of these pedophile child traffickers. I know you're not like that. But at the same exact time, we have all the evidence on a silver platter. And I know that there's a legalese and red tape that you're going to say prevents you, but if we're going to break the law on January 6 and go after American citizens that thought the election was hinky jinky, then please take a risk. No risk, no reward. In the position that you're in, you're going to have to take them. And if you don't, after the midterms, if we lose those, you're going to be Persona non grata around the Trump administration. All right, guys, we had a great show for you this evening. We got Suleimane Ahmad on. This guy is he's a terrorist adjacent, but he's actually a good guy. I don't think he wants to blow us up. I hope he doesn't want to blow us up. But if he does, luckily he's on Zoom, so we'll be safe tonight. Coming up next, Suleiman Ahmad. Welcome back, fellas and ladies. I know there's a lot of ladies who watch this show. I mean, I'm considered one of the sexiest men in conservative politics, and I think they're right when they say that. Now this next guy, he's actually pretty sexy as well. I mean, I'm not into Muslim guys, but the guy, you know, he is a handsome fella. I'm not going to sit here and lie. I look at him, I'm like, you know, guy looks good, right? You know, even though he's a little brown, we can still go to town. That's what the ladies say when you're with Suleiman Ahmad. So I want to welcome on our next guest. He is a terrorist sympathizer, but I will say this, one man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter. Let's welcome on Suleiman Ahmad. Suleiman, how are you doing this evening?

[Suleiman Ahmad]

You having me on your show? I heard your introduction. You called me a libtad, you called me a terrorist sympathizer. All I gotta say, Alex, is why are you assuming my political ideology?

[Co-host or Sidekick]

Oh, you told me we're friends.

[Alex Stein]

You're one of my buddies. You said that you're lib tarted, you're liberal. What do you mean? I mean, I don't think I'm exposing you, but you're larping as a right wing conservative now. What are your political viewpoints actually for the audience that doesn't know you, Suleiman. And Suleiman is one of the biggest voices on Twitter. He has spaces that have thousands and thousands of people. His page is absolutely blown up. And I think that Suleiman is responsible for a lot of this propaganda war that Israel's not doing very good at. I mean, they probably look at you as a. You're an adversary to their propaganda war, to say the least. Right, Suleiman?

[Suleiman Ahmad]

Well, they are. Of course. They weren't ready for us. They weren't ready for us to expose the truth about them and hence why, as you as you may know, they put my name on a missile. Such was the discontent, such was the hatred they had for me that they put my name on a missile in Israel. Because, you know, we were pushing back, we were debunking a lot of Their propaganda and a lot of the fake news and they weren't ready for it.

[Alex Stein]

Well, you know, Suleiman, I'm sure you probably have some Jewish friends, right? And I think that anti. Well, I'm the only one. I'm the only Jewish friend you have. Okay, well, you know, I'm laid back. I guess I'm maybe too laid back. But I guess real quick of the first question I want to ask you. They call everybody anti Semitic. I think that's ridiculous. Some people are anti Semitic, you know, but most people are probably not anti Semitic. They just think what Israel's doing is a little strong. You know, they're strong arming. What do you think about all of the people in the media that call everybody antisemitic? Do you think that's fair or unfair?

[Suleiman Ahmad]

Well, I think it's an important question you ask because there's actually, I would say I'm somewhere in the middle because you've got people who basically the Jewish people or the Zionists who will call people like me anti Semitic, even though I'm very precise in when I speak, I'm very precise and when I talk, I'm very precise in the information that I relay. On the other hand, you've got people who are on the, like you could say far right, whatever, who get angry with me because I don't blame all Jews. And so I think the issue is that people live in this echo chamber and they're not willing to understand the depth and breadth of it. And so they will call someone like me anti Semitic even though I'm not. I make a differentiation. I say it's a Zionist issue as opposed to a Jewish issue. I believe the vast majority of Zionists aren't Jewish, although the vast majority of Jewish people are Zionist. And then people say on the other side, they say, look, you're afraid to name the Jew. But I think that's a weak point because in reality I say they're weak. Because if they're going to say it's only Jews, what about the Christian Zionists? What about the Muslim Zionists? And in reality, the reason why they don't want to call those people out is because they want to be continued to be platformed by them. They want to continue to collaborations with them, they can want to continue to work with them. And so in the end they want to sell out without us basically calling them out or why without them being exposed for selling out. So that's the first bit. The second thing is the reason why the Zionists want to label US as anti Semitic is because they want to get to a point where nobody, as you said, question Israel. Nobody questioned Jewish supremacy. No one questioned the specific attacks on, for example, in the United States of America, if you look at the attack on free speech, you look at the attack on the Constitution, you look at the attack on law and liberty, you look at the attack on the control of the have over the United States of America and the United Kingdom. And so by labeling anyone who questions them on these issues, adopting the Ihra definition, which is very loose, it means if you question someone's loyalty to Israel, if you question that someone has Jew loyalty, you question whether, you know, the Jews kill Jesus, you will be expelled from university. And so, yes, they are doing it in an extreme manner because they want to censor, and the other side are doing it because they want to basically either make someone and make someone to be anti Semitic without any real basis, or in reality, they want to hide their own situation where they want to collaborate with Zionists.

[Alex Stein]

Well, I just want to say I love Benjamin Netanyahu. He is the greatest world leader of all time, and Israel is the greatest country, and the IDF is the greatest military in the entire world. But at the same exact time, actually, I love those hot Israeli babes that have to go and get drafted into the war. And they're holding the guns and they have the big breasts. I love that. Those are my favorite soldiers. But I will say this is my critique. But this is my critique, and I do support Israel, obviously. I know you don't, but I do not like that this is considered one of the best militaries in the world. But in Gaza, they have an 84% casualty civilian casualty rate. If you're so good at, you know, military drills or they're not drills, you know, of just being a military, why are you killing a lot of people that are under 18 that are not part of Hamas? So that's where I am nuanced in my position. Of course. Israel is our biggest ally. We basically share all of our information with Mossad. Whether you like that or not, that's just the truth. So going after somebody that's our ally. I love America, so I think that we should support our allies. But if our allies are killing children, I'm not cool with that. I'm anti war. So it's a nuanced position, but it's not widely accepted.

[Suleiman Ahmad]

So first things first, when you're saying you love the IDF babes, the problem with that is. You may not know this, Alex, but that is AI and the person who's likely behind that.

[Alex Stein]

Out.

[Co-host or Sidekick]

Wait, time out. Not all of them are AI because I know people have gone on that.

[Alex Stein]

That, that trip and they got seduced by some of these military women.

[Co-host or Sidekick]

So there are, some of them are real.

[Alex Stein]

Suleiman, but go ahead. I just want to say they're not all AI I need to clarify that.

[Suleiman Ahmad]

Yeah, we know the propaganda you're doing because as you, the people behind it are Indian guys. And you already explained this in your first segment how, how much of love and affinity you have for the Indian people. So I understand, I understand the reason why you're doing or the motive behind it. But, but in terms of what you said, I think it's extremely important you actually said this in a show we were in previously. I'm not sure if it's the one we were censored or not, but in one of the shows, AU said that if you look at the kill rate In Gaza, it's 87%. It means 87% of civilians have been killed to 13% of IDF. And that is based on the current numbers that have been related, which is of 70,000. I don't even think those numbers are right. I think Hamas have given lower numbers. I don't agree with the Hamas ministry numbers. I think the numbers are much higher. It's likely and according to Lancet and various other studies, they're claiming it's 5000-006000-00700,000. If that's the case, then it means actually it's 99 of civilians have been killed to one combatant. That is crazy. And when you look at.

[Alex Stein]

Real quick, I just want to cut you off. I don't know if it's 99, but I will say that I agree with you. When they do a double tap bomb or they show that they bomb a hospital and then the rescue people in the ambulance or they don't have ambulances there, but you know what I mean. The first responders go in and try to help these people that were just bombed and they drop another bomb. I don't like watching that either. I think that that's really disgusting.

[Suleiman Ahmad]

For sure. And the modern methods are to, to cause the maximum amount of damage and harm as much people as possible. And what we know is they do have the ability. You said that they're a very good military. Well, they were able to precisely attack places in Lebanon. They managed to take out a number of the Hezbollah military and leadership. They did the same thing in Iran. They did the same thing in Syria. So they have the ability to attack in a precise manner. Qatar, you saw they attacked directly the building that the Hamas leadership were in. So that demonstrates they have the ability. So if they have the ability, why are they not using that ability in Gaza? Quite clearly they aren't. They aren't. And the reason is intentional because they want to cause as much, as much damage as possible.

[Alex Stein]

Well, sue the man. Personally, if Donald Trump builds a Margaritaville, you know, on the Gaza Strip, I'm, I like that, you know, that will encourage me to go there. Right? I mean, so I can kind of see their position. Donald Trump builds hotels. You know, he builds a lot of these fancy resorts. He has golf clubs. Could you imagine playing a round of golf right there on the Gaza Strip? That doesn't sound nice to you, even though you're Muslim? That doesn't sound nice. Playing a round of golf right there on the beach. I mean, it's like pebble beach, but, you know, terrorist beach I guess you'd call it.

[Suleiman Ahmad]

Well, you'd call it innocent civilian beach, where basically you'd be playing golf on the bodies of dead Gazans who've been murdered by the Israelis. So that's the first part, just the entire spiritual nature aspect of it. Like there's people who died there. Just think about the negative spiritual energy there. The second thing is, it's not your land. This is the problem. Like you talk about Somalis and you call them highway robbers or bandits or whatever, but what is the biggest banditry or highway robbery than going to someone else's land and stealing it? That is an example of it. So what you're basically saying is that you support the stealing of someone else's land, the playing of golf on the dead bodies of other people. So for me, even if I'd got an all expenses paid trip to, to stay at one of these hotels in Gaza, I would never do it because of just all the, the reasons I mentioned.

[Alex Stein]

Well, Suleiman, you've never had the breakfast buffet at a five star resort and trust me, it's delicious. They got every, you know, I know you don't eat the bacon there, but they got thick cut bacon. The bacon is going to be this thick. I mean, it's something that a normal person can't even chew. If you had dentures, you wouldn't even be able to eat the breakfast buffet that's going to be there. So, coming up next, Suleiman, we're going to get into a lot of different topics. I really appreciate you coming on. Even though we don't agree on everything. One of the topics that you and I have always argued about, which is worse, rape or murder. Now I'm of the opinion that rape is incredibly bad because there's no excuse for self defense rape. But Suleiman thinks murder is worse than rape. So we're gonna get into it. Things are gonna get very spicy. So coming up next, you do not want to miss it. The sparks are gonna fly. And I just want to say I love Benjamin Netanyahu, I love Israel. Everything that they do is correct. And even though it's an 84% civilian casualty rate, good. You know, I Wish it was 100%. I just hope that everybody in Gaza, I hope it becomes a parking lot and that we can have a golf course there that I can play on and eat at the breakfast buffet and just relax because I'm stressed out here in Dallas, you know, there's no good places to eat a breakfast buffet and golf. You know, in the Metroplex that is as good as the Gaza Strip. So coming up next, I want you guys to stay here. Do not leave. Things are about to get Wiki Wiki wild Will Smith style.

[Co-host or Sidekick]

And you know I need that Pfizer.

[Alex Stein]

Guys, it's prime time. Alex Stein and you know that I.

[Co-host or Sidekick]

Love look, Megamind Alex Stein.

[Alex Stein]

That's how we do it here, guys. When you got this big brain, we're just on the screen looking big, looking in charge, looking extra large. Double extra large is actually my size because I'm the pimp on a blimp and I'm 6 foot 3 tall like a tree. Now Suleimane, I want to welcome back on our guest. Now Suleimane is a guy that is huge on social media. He has a great Twitter account. Well, I mean I don't think Israel thinks it's very great, but it is a good account. This guy gets a lot of views and I think he's very influential and he is a leader of his movement. I think he's probably one of the most powerful voices on X when it comes to the pro Palestine side and the pro Islam side. But this is something that you and I disagree wholeheartedly about. Suleiman, if we had to judge which is worse, my personal opinion, rape versus murder. Rape is worse than murder because there are justifications for murder. If you're a soldier, if you're in self defense, you might have to murder somebody, but there is no excuse for self defense rape. You don't self defensively rape somebody. So you disagree with me on this. Can you explain yourself why Is murder in your opinion, rapidly worse than rape?

[Suleiman Ahmad]

Yeah, to use your analogy, the version of self defense, rape in murder would be. In rape would be consensual sex, right? So there is the version, and I think that you like doing that version, which is you'll have sex with a woman and it's consensual and then the.

[Alex Stein]

I love it. I love it so much. It's my favorite thing in the world. Yeah, it's my number one favorite thing. So why. So what? It's still rape, still worse than murder.

[Suleiman Ahmad]

I think you're arguing it's not. And then the second thing is. So then that's the consensual part then.

[Co-host or Sidekick]

Excuse me, sorry, I misspoke.

[Alex Stein]

Well, let me correct that. I love sex. So murder is worse. Excuse me? No, no, I said my point, right? Rape is worse than murder. No, rape is worse than murder. That's my point. You tricked me, Sule. Quit using your Muslim tricks on me, because I don't. I'm going to fall for it, okay? I do not use your Quran tricks on me, okay? Not tonight. Save that for your ex bases, but go ahead. Why? Why in your opinion is murder worse than rape?

[Suleiman Ahmad]

So look, whereas murder, murder on the other hand, yeah, you can have consensual, not consensual, but you can have murder which is in self defense, and then you can have murder which kills people. So that's the analogy in terms of the two. So just to counter your point, but in terms of why murders worse is because, look, murder is what. Your life in this universe is finite. The chances of me existing, the chances of Alex Stein existing is astronomically minimal, right? It's almost an impossibility. From a statistical perspective. Our consciousness is very unique and it's our consciousness that is what makes, gives us our existence. And this is finite, right? We exist and then we no longer exist. This world is obviously temporary. And so existence is the thing that then necessitates the rest of the things, whether it is eating, sleeping, drinking, sex and whatever it may be. But the primary foundation of all of that is. Is life. And so when you take away someone's life, you take away the entirety of the existence. You take away the ability to eat, drink, sleep, as you said, have sex, have enjoyments, have all of those things. And so that's the foundational basis of everything. And that's an overarching thing. The sex is a branch of that. And so you're concerned about the branch, but the real things, existence. So existing no longer existence means you cease to Exist. Rape is evil, but it's not the cessation of existence. So, yeah, that's my argument, but I'll counter some of the points you made.

[Alex Stein]

Well, you know, I, I do understand your point. You know, you're saying that existence is a root of the tree, and I'm just talking about a branch, which is fair. But, but when you do get raped and when you're a victim of something horrible like that, your existence is totally affected for the rest of your life. You're not the same person. So, yes, you're alive, but if you're living a horrible life, and I'm not saying you should be euthanized, but if you're living a life of depression, oftentimes leading to drugs and alcohol and, you know, all kinds of terrible circumstances surrounding people that were victims of rape. They even, they even did a study in Jubilee. Fact check me on this. Over 70 people, excuse me, over 70% of people that identify as gay say that they were sexually assaulted as a young person. So the rape, maybe it doesn't kill you, but it totally changes the trajectory of your life. Your life is going to never be the same after it happens.

[Suleiman Ahmad]

Okay, question to you. If somebody is raped and you're saying murder is worse than rape, right?

[Alex Stein]

Saying rape. I'm saying rape is worse than murder. I want to clarify that. I think raping somebody is worse than murdering somebody because there are instances where you can murder somebody in self defense, or if you're in the military, you know, you need to murder somebody. Or if you're an ICE agent, you got to blow Alex Pretty's head off, which I like, I love. Boom.

[Suleiman Ahmad]

So if rape is worse than murder, it means murder is the worst thing ever. It means for you, rape is worse than no longer existing. So my question to you, Alex, is, and your claim is that all these rape people, and you're trying to make it look like it's 100, but okay, whatever it may be, all these rare people, would you support that they were basically euthanized because according to you, living a life.

[Alex Stein]

No, you already said I don't want them euthanized. I'm just saying.

[Suleiman Ahmad]

No, but let me, let me ask the question. So because what you're basically saying is living a life after being raped is worse than no longer existing. Therefore for you, the more beneficial outcome is no longer existent. Therefore you should support the, basically the eradication of everyone who got ripped.

[Alex Stein]

Well, why do people commit suicides in Suleiman? Wouldn't you agree that Suleiman is a. Wouldn't you agree that suicide is pretty prevalent in the world?

[Suleiman Ahmad]

Yes, it's bad.

[Alex Stein]

So there's some people that would rather be dead than live with the terror that they faced earlier in their life. So doesn't that kind of trump your statement?

[Suleiman Ahmad]

No, because what it shows is that those people who committed suicide, unfortunately, they made the wrong decision, and what they did was worse than existing whilst having the pain of suffering or whatever it may be. Because actually, what defeats your argument even more is all those people who basically commit suicide didn't do so based on rape. Now, so that means your argument is almost everything is worse than rape. Being in debt. Sorry, worse than murder. Being in debt. Some people might have killed themselves because they're in debt. That's worse than murder. Basically, not being. Losing your job, that's worth the murder.

[Alex Stein]

Well, to clarify, I'm just saying that is one aspect of why somebody might kill themselves because they were sexually abused as a child or sexually abused as an adult. So if they're choosing to die instead of live with that abuse, I would say that murder is less bad than rape.

[Suleiman Ahmad]

That's.

[Alex Stein]

That's the point I'm trying to make.

[Suleiman Ahmad]

But then you don't really believe it, because if you believed it, you would support all those people being euthanized because living a life under pain. So let me ask you. No, but answer the question. If you had it right, where you could decide you the ultimate power. We live in Stein's world, Alex Stein's world, and you had a person in front of you, and the person was. They were gonna be. They'd been ripped. Now they can exist with the pain of being raped, or they can no longer exist. What would Alex Stein choose for them?

[Alex Stein]

I would want them to exist because I love people. I want to spread positive vibrational energy. And I think that life is, like you said, the idea that, you know, we all evolved from pond scum. You and I both disagree on that. You know, evolution. We didn't evolve from monkeys. There was a creator and God created us. And so we've won the lottery of life just being alive. And I think people take that for granted. And that's kind of something that I would like to just, you know, if anybody learns anything from this, just the fact that we're alive, the fact that we had thousands of grandparents before us that had to have sex and everything had to go so smooth for us to be here, people take that for granted. Sulaimane. And I hate that, you know, people just. They're living in depression with anxiety and they actually want to kill themselves. It makes me sick that anybody would ever want to do that to themselves. But at the same exact time, a rapist, to me is worse than a murderer because there are instances where murder can be acceptable. So that's my argument in a nutshell. We don't have to go back and forth, but I guess I'll give you one last rebuttal to that point.

[Suleiman Ahmad]

Yeah, but the problem is that what you're saying, your argument is this, you're saying, because I think you conceded the point, you would actually choose someone living with the pain of being abused.

[Alex Stein]

I would choose somebody living with the point, if that. I don't think you won the argument because of that. But yes, I would concede that I wouldn't want to euthanize people. Okay, yeah, Suleiman. Yeah, I'm guilty.

[Suleiman Ahmad]

Opponents of rape that you're saying. You're saying basically there's rape, which is. So there's two components of a murder. Murder is either you kill someone or you kill someone in self defense. And you're saying there's two components of it. And you're saying self defense part would be fine, but the other component.

[Co-host or Sidekick]

This is what I'm saying. I'm saying I think you might be a rape apologist because you guys got to do Sharia law, because you got to cover up all these hot brown babes. And I like a brown babe. I wish they could show some cleavage. I mean, and I know you're a man, you got a bunch of kids. You're not one of these, you know, hinky jinky guys.

[Suleiman Ahmad]

Why is the Jewish guy promoting pornography? Like, come on, bro, right. Now, coming back to.

[Co-host or Sidekick]

I'm not saying pornography. First of all, first of all, I didn't say pornography. I just said, let me see some cleavage.

[Alex Stein]

Those aren't nips.

[Co-host or Sidekick]

There's a difference. So you think showing cleavage and showing.

[Alex Stein]

The nipples are the same thing? Let's debate that. You think showing a nipple and a cleavage are the same, bruh.

[Suleiman Ahmad]

And then let me just answer the point. I was about rape. So in rape, there's two components. There is the consensual sex and the non consensual sex, and one is good and one is bad. So it's just, it follows in the same track. But sorry, what were you going to say?

[Alex Stein]

Well, you could say self defense murders. Okay, but listen, Suleiman, you're a very smart guy. It's fun always talking to you and having these. I guess you'd call maybe like, thought experiment. I don't really know because obviously I know that you're against murder and rape. You know, I'm not really trying to make you defend rape, but I just think that the conversation is important to have because all these people right now, they use rape as this way to propagandize people. They say, oh, these people got raped, these babies got raped, this person got raped. And I don't agree with that. But because rape is so bad, it's able to brainwash people. So what do you think about that and how they use rape to basically scare people into compliance?

[Suleiman Ahmad]

It's a very good question you ask. And this is why I'm always willing to debate this argument. And I agree with you. We both find these things horrific. We're just saying what's worse. The issue you've got is, and the reason why I do push back on this a lot is rape is horrendous, right? Rape is horrific. But another difference between rape and murder is someone can't pretend they got murdered, right? Either you die or you don't die, right? Either you exist or you see, well, Jeffrey Epstein.

[Alex Stein]

Timeout. Jeffrey Epstein's probably still alive. So you can't fake a murder and death. So, I mean, I think, look, Megamind. Go to Megamind.

[Co-host or Sidekick]

Megamind. Alex Stein. Look, I won that debate. Megamind won that debate. You can fake a death. Jeffrey Epstein's probably still alive because there's evidence that a guy in a van in military fatigues drove him out of the dang SDNY jail that he was in.

[Alex Stein]

Look at Megamind. So Mega Mind. So I won that. So you can fake a death. Do you concede that argument?

[Suleiman Ahmad]

No, no, in the sense of, like, no one's gonna be taken out, no one's gonna be convicted of a crime for basically murdering someone if you can't find the person who's been murdered, right? Because they could have disappeared. They could have been whatever. Now, the reason I'm saying that is because with rape, what happens is, unfortunately, there is people who get raped. Of course there is abuse that happens. But also, on the other hand, there is a lot of people who lie about it. They false make false claims of rape and abuse. And what happens is that can.

[Alex Stein]

Real quick, we got to go to break. But you. You are right. These. There are a lot of women that pretend like they were victims of sexual assault and they weren't, and it ruins people's lives. So in that sense, you actually are correct. It's harder to fake your death than it is to fake a Me too. Statement and say that you were touched by your boss or touched by somebody. So in that sense, I do agree with you, Suleiman. But guys, coming up next, we're going to get Suleiman's opinion on these Jeffrey Epstein leaks. And especially, especially we're going to talk about Melinda Gates and her response to.

[Co-host or Sidekick]

These Bill Gates allegiance.

[Alex Stein]

Welcome back to after hours on Real America's Voice.

I'll be honest, I need some milk because this episode has been that spicy, especially with my guest, Suleiman Ahmad. Now, Suleiman, you have been an outspoken advocate against Israel, which I don't agree with because we love Benjamin Netanyahu. He's the world's best leader. But I do have to agree these Jeffrey Epstein leaks, they use the word goyim a lot. You know, they use the word goyim a whole lot, which is a new word to me. I've never even heard that word before until these Epstein lakes. Well, maybe that's a lie, but I'll let you kind of decide. My point is Jeffrey Epstein is a disgusting pedophile and he was inviting people to his island to do some of the most horrendous acts on, on children. And what has recently come out in these leaks, which Bill Gates has denied, but allegedly Jeffrey Epstein said that he was infected with a sexually transmitted disease and tried to secretly give antibiotics to his wife Melinda, which kind of was the starter for the divorce. So, Suleiman, I want to play this clip of Melinda Gates response and then I want to hear what you think about it.

[Podcast Announcer]

I have to acknowledge the elephant in the room at this moment. Your ex husband Bill is named in the newest tranche of Epstein files and there are a new alleged details about his past behavior. And I want to give you the opportunity to respond in whatever way you want to. Well, let me say this. I think we're having a reckoning as a society, right? No girl, no girl should ever be put in the situation that they were put in by Epstein and whatever was going on with all of the various people around him. No girl. I mean, it's just, it's beyond heartbreaking, right. I remember being those ages those girls were. I remember my daughter, daughters being those ages, right. So for me, it's personally hard whenever those details come up, right. Because brings back memories of some very, very painful times in my marriage. But I have moved on from that.

[Alex Stein]

Now, obviously, after divorce or sour grapes or the wife oftentimes doesn't like the husband and vice versa. But when I watch her just speak, I feel very Empathetic. It seems like she actually is going through some sort of pain. But at the same time, she doesn't defend her husband. She doesn't say that these allegations are false. She basically kind of concedes that they're all true. Now, Suleiman, what did you think about the allegations and then what did you think about her response? I think that her response, and I know this is all alleged, it kind of makes me feel like Bill Gates is guilty because she talks about how she had to get divorced after it. If something really bad didn't happen, then why would she have to get divorced? Why would she stop being a part of the Bill Gates foundation, which is a billion dollar foundation? So to me, I get the impression that Bill Gates is guilty.

[Suleiman Ahmad]

I mean, Bill Gates was massively involved in these Epstein files. And if you look at his names all over it, it was quite clear that even in one of the, one of the emails, he talks about how he has to, as you mentioned earlier, how he has to get STD medication and give it to Melissa so she doesn't find out. So obviously she's well aware of it. The thing is, I think, I assume that with her, she's probably under an NDA. She had to probably make certain amounts of agreements as part of the divorce that she doesn't malign him or attack him. And that's how she got paid. She got paid the bills to kind of make this argument.

[Alex Stein]

Well, let me put the, let me put it back on you. Of course, what Jeffrey Epstein did is disgusting. But you see all of these Saudi billionaires, right? They always invite these only fans, girls. They oftentimes invite adults, film stars. And these guys are married. These guys got families. You know, should those guys be held accountable at all for grooming women? You know, that's a very common thing.

[Suleiman Ahmad]

It's very common. It's very common in the uae, these Saudi countries, you saw it, they were basically implicated within the Epstein files. In addition to that, not only, not only do they do that, they basically remember it's well known that people in the uae, in Saudi Arabia specifically uae, more so they'll fly women over and they'll do some of these most decrepit types of sexual behavior, whether it's like, you know, urinating on women or, you know, you know, doing various other things. So of course these people are even horrendous. And this is the problem. When you have so much power, you have so much money, you have no pushback. It's just an escalatory method. Like you'll do one thing. You'll go with one woman, then you'll go with two, then you'll go with three, and then you'll try all these kind of evil, demonic type of things. And so what you saw with it is, of course, all of those guys are implicated. And actually what I found strange was that these people were going to Epstein Island. And the reason why that is strange is because they could have access on the. In their own countries. They get these women, they fly them out. So why go to Epstein Island? It seems like they were doing something much more than just these satanic rituals. I mean. Sorry, they were doing something much more worse than, for example, as you mentioned, you know, human trafficking women and human trafficking children. It was probably more than that. It's probably these kind of satanic demonic kind of nature of the island is probably what I'm thinking. Because why would they fly out to go there?

[Alex Stein]

Well, you know, I agree with you on that because a lot of people don't understand. There's a guy named Jimmy Seville that was actually doing sra. Satanic ritualistic abuse. And after his death, he got caught for taking children out of the Royal Children's Hospital and going on boats and actually having sex with dead bodies. I'm not kidding. I'm not making this up. Look up Jimmy Seville. And there are people that worship the devil. There are people that actually get pleasure from doing some of the most disgusting things that you can't even imagine. You couldn't imagine a Hollywood writer couldn't write the disgusting things that these people do. So if that's happening, Suleiman, and I know that you disagree with a normal Jewish guy, if both sides are getting sexually trafficked and children are getting abused, like, how do we kind of fix our society so that we can actually have some joy? Because this show really is about love. You know, we're going to come here and we're going to debate, but I'd really like to kind of meet in the middle because I think most people, when it comes to issues, we actually agree on most issues. There are a few hot button issues that we disagree on, but really, at the end of the day, we all kind of fit into the same box. And that's the populist movement. And I think that the people that are in power are afraid of us having a populist movement. They're afraid of Suleimane and Alex Stein having a conversation and agreeing and disagreeing because him and I can be friends after. So what do you think about that? Like, is divide and conquer working. And how do we stop this divide and conquer system from alienating us from ever having joy?

[Suleiman Ahmad]

First of all, I agree with you. I think that people who aren't able to have conversations just shows a weakness of their mind. Like me and you, as you know, we disagree, we agree and I'm the same with many people on the right. We'll agree and we'll disagree and then we'll have a conversation afterwards. I don't, I never get emotional about these things. It's just you, you know, I'm a journalist. I basically investigate things and then we look at those things and then we analyze them. That's the first thing. But I just want to deal with the first part of the comment that you made, because what you made it look like was that yes, there are these guys from these AR countries and then there is Jeffrey Epstein and it's kind of similar, but it's not similar. There is a differentiation. And I think that differentiation is extremely important. Jeffrey Epstein was a number of things. First of all, he was a Jewish guy. He saw people as lesser than him. Hence why the emails talk about goyim and gentiles or so non Jews are spoke about in a very negative manner, a very low manner. They didn't see them as the same as a Jewish person. They devalued them this and, and so on and so forth. That's the first thing. The second thing is Jeffrey Epstein is whom he is somebody who was a Mossad operative. He had links to Israel, he was working on their behalf. The reason he was basically financing and funding a lot of these operations in universities was for the state of Israel. In addition to that, the blackmail operations basically getting people of power, whether it's the Saudi King, whether it's the king of uae, whether it's the Prime Minister of the United Kingdom or the Prince of the United Kingdom or the President's of the United States of America. This was a multinational international blackmailing operation. And I think many people forget that important element of it and they start looking at other aspects which are important. But this is the important reason that what was he doing and this is what he was actually doing.

[Alex Stein]

Well, I will say this, that you know, a lot of people accuse your brothers and sisters of having sex with goats and there are some weird videos where people are having sex with goats. But to be fair, Jeffrey Epstein was looking at animal porn in the League. So, you know, it's kind of funny how they make those accusations and then Jeffrey Epstein is looking at the same content that he you know, accuses other people of doing. I think the hypocrisy is disgusting. I can't believe it's real. But what do you have to say about that? Just in one minute before we plug all of your stuff? Before you go.

[Suleiman Ahmad]

Yeah, yeah. I mean, there's not much to say about the goats, but what I will say about Epstein is he did commit.

[Co-host or Sidekick]

Well, real quick, real quick. They have.

[Alex Stein]

You have seen those videos. There are some videos of some brown guys doing stuff with goats that are inappropriate. You've seen those? Yeah.

[Suleiman Ahmad]

I mean, there is bestiality, but actually I was looking at the data in the United Kingdom, and actually the bit when you look at the figures of bestiality is definitely not brown people doing it.

[Alex Stein]

Now, in terms of, wow, what color are they? What color are they? They're not black. What color are they? Black guys can just get another black girl. They don't need to go bang a goat. I mean, I think that. I think they're really extra tan, extra crispy is what I'd call it. But listen, not all Muslims are that. The majority of them are not. And all of my Muslim brothers and sisters, I have respect for, except for the ones that are trying to do Sharia law. But honestly, there are some aspects of Sharia law that are good because these women can't drive. If we would just limit women from driving, there'd be less traffic, there'd be less accidents, and my life would be a lot better. Insurance rates would go down, car prices would go down. So there are some aspects, believe it or not, of Sharia law that are good.

[Suleiman Ahmad]

Well, that's one aspect that you like. And unfortunately, it's not even in Sharia law. So I'm in agreement with you. Women shouldn't drive. But unfortunately, that's not even in Sharia law.

[Alex Stein]

Well, it's in the Stein. Sharia law. It's in. It's in my version of it. Guys. Well, this is. Well, this has been a spicy episode. Before we go, Suleiman, how can people find you and support you? I know you got a big YouTube channel, but your ex account, everybody, if you're on X, go follow them there. But shout out your YouTube before you go.

[Suleiman Ahmad]

Yeah, of course I'm on X, as you said, I'm quite big on X, but I'm growing my YouTube channel now. I've been posting on there for like a month. It's got a decent amount of followers. It's quite new. It's quite small in the sense of his building. But what I'M doing is I'm streaming the spaces on there. But in addition to that video. So, for example, I did have a video on Jeffrey Epstein yesterday which talked about Jeffrey Epstein and the Satanic occult aspect of what he was doing, because we saw, for example, releases that talked about him drinking Mormon blood or having the cloth of the Kaaba. So we go into that. So we're doing daily videos on Epstein, daily interviews. So do check my YouTube out. It's Suleiman Ahmed X, which you can see that. The YouTube is called Suleiman Amadex. But I appreciate that. Thank you.

[Alex Stein]

Well, everybody go follow Suleiman. And I know this episode got a little spicy. We got into the woods a little bit. But that's why Suleiman is a, you know, he's a fun guy. He's willing to actually have these conversations that most people are not willing to have. And though him and I agree on some points, we disagree on a lot of points, too. So, you know, we got to have a nuanced take. But this show, this. These are the type of conversations we're going to have. Not the easy conversations. Everybody can watch Fox News and just say, we love Trump, and I love Trump. But on this show, we're gonna have conversations that are different. We're gonna talk about the satanic ritualistic abuse of children. We're gonna talk about the things that you've never even thought were happening, because I'm the pimp on a blimp, and that's the way I roll. Primetime 99. Alex Stein does not hold back. Thank you for watching After Hours with Alex Stein. We'll see you tomorrow night.

[Podcast Announcer]

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