Podcast Summary: Real America’s Voice – AMERICA FEST 2025 DAY 3 LIVE COVERAGE PART 2 (December 20, 2025)

Overview

This episode of Real America’s Voice delivers in-depth, on-the-ground coverage of AMERICA FEST 2025 (AMFest) in Phoenix, Arizona. The special live broadcast takes listeners inside one of the country's largest conservative gatherings, featuring speeches, panel discussions, crowd interviews, and “man-on-the-street” dialogues. The focus is on current political issues—especially immigration, election integrity, American values, conservative activism, and the cultural conflict over America’s direction. There is also ongoing memorializing of Charlie Kirk, who was recently assassinated, and robust debate over foreign policy, gun rights, and the Hispanic vote.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Tom Tiffany's Keynote Speech [(06:00–16:40)]

• America First Agenda: Rep. Tom Tiffany details his vision for bringing the America First movement to his Wisconsin gubernatorial bid, and critiques progressive policies in neighboring states.

  • “This movement does not apologize for putting America first and neither do I.” [06:09]
  • Calls for ending “unfair racial preferences,” reforming H1B visas, and securing the border.
  • Critiques “Democrat rule” in Minnesota, Illinois, and New York: “Billions in free benefits for illegal aliens while American families struggle to pay their bills. Look at New York where felons walk free and they'll try to lock you up for defending yourself. Those are the real consequences of Democrat rule.” [08:44]

• Election Integrity & Generational Duty:

  • “Our elections are the most sacred part of our republic. If we do not protect them, we will just become communist China.” [12:55]
  • Encourages youth activism and frames Wisconsin as “the backbone of the United States of America.”

• Critique of “Nanny State”:

  • “We do not believe in a rigged system, do we, that keeps people dependent on government. We believe in a civilization where opportunity belongs to the people.” [07:30]

2. Academic Freedom and Conservative Counterculture [(18:45–27:30)]

• Jonathan Kieperman’s Reflections: Former UC Irvine lecturer recounts academic suppression of conservative thought and launches a publishing house to amplify marginalized (esp. conservative) voices.

  • “I started to see the university's mission change from encouraging the acquisition of knowledge for its own sake to enforcing an ever narrower set of political and moral ideas on its students and even its faculty.” [19:28]
  • Praises Charlie Kirk's intellectual seriousness and collaborative leadership.

• Survival as Metaphor for Activism:

  • “Success begins with the simple assertion I am alive. And by virtue of being alive, I have agency... Sometimes the small thing is simply choosing to not give up, choosing to stay in the game.” [24:30]
  • Emphasizes stoicism and action in the face of adversity.

3. Man-on-the-Street: Immigration, Voting, and American Identity [(33:00–1:13:00)]

• Interviews with Protesters & Supporters: Ben Berkwam and Javier Negre debate with protesters outside, covering contentious topics:

  • Eligibility to Vote: Debates on whether felons and undocumented immigrants should be able to vote:

    • “I think that felons who have served their criminal sentence should have their rights restored and be allowed to vote. That's a reasonable thing.” (Protester “William,” 35:40)

  • Border Security & Vetting:

    • “We shouldn't let you in until we vetted you enough to know.” (Ben Berkwam, 38:32)

  • Refugees & Terrorism:

    • The validity of Trump/Biden policies regarding Afghan refugees and domestic security.

  • Accusations of Double Standards:

    • “If you look at the, the proportion of Jihadists. Islamist jihadists. It’s a problem. So what you’re saying is… we should look upon everybody who is Middle Eastern as a potential terrorist.” (Protester to RAV Host, 47:15)
    • “Anyone who says, death to America, yes. Anyone who says, death to America, yes, we should look at them as a potential terrorist.” (RAV Host, approx. 48:05)

• Gun Violence, Abortion, and Moral Relativity:

  • “If thoughts and prayers are good enough for kids in the classroom, then surely they’re good enough for kids in the womb.” (Protester, 1:06:00)
  • “Women are capable of making decisions for themselves.” (Protester, 1:07:50)

• Satirical Engagements & Cultural Commentary:

  • Conservative interviewers challenge left-leaning protesters to debates for cash, mock perceived “low energy,” and lament what they see as “anti-Christian,” “pro-terrorist” sentiment among progressives.

4. Panel Discussions & Musical Tributes [(1:14:00–1:29:00)]

• Don and Donna from Cowboy Logic:

  • Discuss the impact of the “Justice for All” anthem and related documentary giving a voice to January 6 defendants (“J6ers”).
  • Comment on hypocrisy among left-leaning activists ("She did not want to classify any illegal alien as that, but was not willing to apply that same classification to a …child in the womb.” (Donna, 1:20:59)) and assert the need for immigration pause.

• Music as Movement:

  • The “J6 Prison Choir” single reaches #1, bumping Mariah Carey from the charts.

5. The Israel Debate: Theology, Foreign Aid, and Antisemitism [(1:30:00–1:54:00)]

• Participants: Steve Deace & Pastor Doug Wilson

• Key Quotes & Points:

  • On Theological Nuance: “There are great minds throughout the history of the church that have had great differing views on what Romans 9 through 11 actually means... you are not allowed. Jesus does not allow you to be an anti-Semitic jerk face.” (Steve Deace, 1:32:42)
  • On Foreign Policy: “As a foreign policy deflector shield, you want as much cartilage in the knee between you and Islam as you can possibly get.” (Steve Deace, 1:38:50)
  • On Aid to Israel: “100%. You're not [anti-Semitic for opposing aid]. I don't think anybody should get a cotton picking thing. That would be my position.” (Steve Deace, 1:50:51)

• Questioners press on:

  • Whether Israel is America’s “greatest ally,” and concern over the US foreign aid budget (contrasting Israel and Ukraine aid).
  • Debate over the identity of modern Jews versus biblical tribes; Pastor Doug: “It’s always covenant, not bloodlines.” (1:53:00)

6. Hispanic Media, Hispanic Vote, and Trump’s Image [(1:54:30–2:09:00)]

• Anna Paulina Luna (FL Rep.) Interviewed:

  • Challenges facing Hispanic engagement in the MAGA movement, blaming leftist Spanish-language media and the need for candidate quality and outreach.

    • “You had George Soros purchasing all these Spanish speaking news outlets after the election because they want to consolidate that information and ensure that Hispanic Americans are not getting the factual information.” (Anna Paulina Luna, 1:55:30)

  • Praises Trump’s immigration reforms; asserts illegal immigration is exploited by the left for votes and as a source of crime.

    • “Frankly, we don't want anyone here illegally because it's not fair to the people that are trying to do it the right way.” (Anna Paulina Luna, 2:03:22)

• Transgender Debate:

  • Claims that Charlie Kirk was murdered by a radical transgender activist, expresses opposition to transitioning children, and legislation on gender issues: “There are two genders. It’s male and woman. That’s it.” (Anna Paulina Luna, 2:07:58)

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Tom Tiffany, on the contrast between states: “Take a look at Minnesota. Millions, billions of Somalian led welfare fraud that Tim Walz ignored.” [08:15]
• Jonathan Kieperman, on Charlie Kirk’s leadership: “He didn’t throw tantrums. He didn’t lash out. He didn’t stomp his feet. He focused his efforts on building a winning machine.” [22:08]
• Field Interviews: Genuine if often contentious dialogue between conservative hosts and protesters; exchanges over immigration, terrorism, the role of God, and moral decay.
• Cowboy Logic Panel: “She wanted to classify every illegal alien with human dignity, but not a child in the womb.” [1:21:00]
• On Israel: “Jesus does not allow you to be an anti-Semitic jerk face.” (Steve Deace, 1:32:42)
• Anna Paulina Luna, on media: “They’re using Hispanic Americans the way that they use black Americans during the George Floyd riots. It’s like BLM 2.0 but for Hispanic Americans.” (1:57:20)
• On trans ideology: “By the way, it was a militant, transgendered radical terrorist that murdered Charlie Kirk. It's important to call it out. And by the way, it is wrong to transition children.” (Anna Paulina Luna, 2:07:03)

Timed Segment Highlights

• Tom Tiffany Speech — [06:00–16:40]
• Jonathan Kieperman on Campus Culture & Survival — [18:45–27:30]
• Man-on-the-Street Debates — [33:00–1:13:00]
• Cowboy Logic Panel — [1:14:00–1:29:00]
• Israel Policy & Theology Debate — [1:30:00–1:54:00]
• Anna Paulina Luna on the Hispanic Vote — [1:54:30–2:09:00]

Conclusion

This episode is an encapsulation of contemporary conservative grievances and aspirations, blending policy discussions, theological debate, humorous and pointed street encounters, and appeals to activism—particularly among youth and Hispanics. The tone is defiant, urgent, and highly engaged, with an emphasis on reclaiming the American dream through faith, hard work, and resistance to progressive encroachment on traditional values.

Listeners come away with a sense of the energy, anxieties, and evolving strategies at the heart of the modern America First movement, grounded in both political critique and cultural narrative.

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