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Dr. James Nezzo
There was last week the release, which happens once a term, sometimes twice a term in every presidential term of office, something called the National Security Doctrine. And it is a long, multi page sort of analysis of how the United States sees its national security. What was very interesting about this was the pivot away from Europe as the centerpiece of American foreign policy. In many respects, what has happened is that we pivoted back to a Monroe notion. Now we can talk about Asia, and that is incredibly important too. But when the selection of Mr. Rubio as secretary Rubio, that was a signal by the Trump administration, not merely because Marco Rubio is a very gifted man, but also because of his interest in dealing with Central and Latin America. And we're seeing not only in Venezuela, but also there's rhetoric now coming to Colombia as well from the President that these two narco states, as he calls them, are on the hit list and he is going after them with kinetic force.
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Jake Novak
And I think that's important. We have a live shot up right now of Kilmer Abrego Garcia, the Maryland man, an illegal alien. Only in the liberal leftist America now can an illegal alien. No one is denying that he was here illegally. Also no denying that he was once in court for abusing and beating his wife. Can we have this person celebrated as a hero. There's gonna be a rally for him here. I don't know if I can stomach the sound room. Of course, there's someone with the Palestinian a scarf next to him because of course, Palestinians and illegal aliens from Central America have everything in common. I mean, this is just about being anti American. And there he is standing there, Jim, off the air. When I was telling you that this was gonna happen, you talked about how this is really the result of these judges who don't seem to care about endangering the public. This is like a Hobbesian dystopia, Jim.
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Dr. James Nezzo
It is horribly Hobbesian. There is a young woman who is dead from North Carolina. There are a number of people in Illinois who have died because the judges have decided that, quote, we don't have room in our prisons for people, so we're just going to toss these out. And they have in the flimsiest of reasons, unfortunately, our system of government makes it extraordinarily difficult to remove these judges. What I think ought to happen is a change in the federal rules of criminal procedure, which will allow prosecutors then go to appellate courts when something like this occurs and ask for a stay. But they can't. The, in sentencing decisions like this, which go against the government, that basically ends all sort of discussion. You can't. Now, the defendant can move up to an appellate court, but the, but the, the state cannot. And we are seeing people put felons put on the street, people in danger there. Again, as I said, there are people who have been planted in the ground because of decisions made by the judge.
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Jake Novak
It just feels like the judiciary is unaccountable, Jim.
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Dr. James Nezzo
They are uncountable. You know, there's an old joke about how God wishes that he was a federal district court judge.
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Jake Novak
Yeah. I mean, it really, it's frustrating to me. Well, let's stay with the course for a second. Again, we're just looking at this news conference now. That's Kilmer, Abrego, Garcia on the left. Again, someone who is an illegal alien. These are accepted facts. An illegal alien in this country.
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Dr. James Nezzo
I wish we didn't even have to see his face. I mean, the only good thing is that there are going to be so many cameras around this guy in the next couple of weeks before ultimately he gets rearrested for some minor peccadillo that the guy probably can't go out to go and pick up the newspaper on the front lawn without having five or six cameras watching his every step. He thought he was in jail. He's not really in jail. I mean, it's called media jail.
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Jake Novak
Yeah, that's possible. All right, let's, let's get off that shot and talk about more outrageous judicial malpractice. And the chief judge of malpractice in America is Kahtani Brown Jackson, Supreme Court Justice. By the way, the official title, if you're, unless you're the Chief justice, is Associate Justice. Say that in your, in your classroom and see if anyone knows what you're talking about. But she again embarrassed herself earlier this week when she just said from the bench, from the bench in a Supreme Court hearing that she's happy to say that unelected bureaucrats should be running this country with no accountability. Now, I don't know. Again, every time she opens her mouth, the Question is, is she just really, really ignorant of decency and of our American way and our American laws, or is she basically, she knows that this is all wrong, but she's a partisan plant meant to undermine this country's democracy from within. Either way, it's not good, is it, Jim?
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Dr. James Nezzo
Well, first of all, why is it an or situation? Why can't it be an and? And I think it is an and in this particular case. Look, in the 1970s, President Nixon tried to sort of ram home somebody into the Supreme Court. And one of the people he brought in was this fellow by name of Carswell and who was a thoroughly, maybe a decent man, and he's probably passed on. So I don't want to speak ill of the dead, but he was not the sharpest knife in the drawer. And Senator Roman Hrska from Nebraska was famously heard to say, well, why can't the mediocre also be represented on the Supreme Court? Well, he didn't get it with Carswell. He has got it with Jackson. She is thoroughly mediocre. What is fascinating is that there usually is a great deal of deference between members of the court. That's not happening anymore. She speaks, eyes visibly roll on the bench, even an oral argument. If you read the rejection of her dissents, they have a tone not just of sort of anger or vitriol, but of almost a weariness of having to explain to this person who ought not to even have passed the first year law exams on the bar about what the notion of the law happens to be. She unfortunately is a graduate of my law school and she is not one of those that I would celebrate.
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Jake Novak
Finally, Jim, we only have about a minute left, but you teased us a little bit earlier about talking about Asia. I know that you're a frequent visitor to Japan for business, and a lot of people watching may not know that China has really ramped up its pressure and its vitriol is. And some scary stuff against Japan lately. I know that the US And Japan did a joint aerial exercise around Taiwan and also over Japan recently just to show China that the United States stands strongly, President Trump really stands strongly with Japan and his new prime minister. Tell us about that prime minister, because she's no wilting flower, is she, Jim?
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Dr. James Nezzo
No, as a matter of fact, she was named the third most powerful woman in the world by one of the major international magazines yesterday. This is a woman who has completely transformed Japanese politics for years. It's been sclerotic with these old men who frankly, are carbon copies of each other since Abe San passed away. She comes in and she has flipped the script entirely. Before, the average amount of approval rating of a prime minister was in the low 30s, even to the high 20s. Her last poll was 75.8%. And if you look at young people, it's over 80%. They love what she is and what she's been doing. Korea, sorry. China made a catastrophic mistake thinking that they could get her to back down. What she's done is they've cemented in the Japanese mind that here is a tough, hard hitting prime minister who they can back. And they are. Economically, there's been no diminution in terms of the Japanese economy by the withdrawal. As a matter of fact, what it's done if you read the Japanese newspapers is it's gone and basically said to Japan, you don't have to be dependent on China economically. You can diversify around the world and this will be better for you both in the short and long term. And they're doing that. This is going to redound very, very badly for Xi as yet another catastrophic mistake that he has been making.
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Jake Novak
Thank you. Well, I tell you something, thank you, General Douglas MacArthur. This was his dream when he insisted that the Japanese give women the right to vote. He did it because he knew that they would break up eventually. The old boys club in Japan. And this is Prime Minister takechi doing that. Dr. James Nuzzo, thank you so much for joining us. Have a great weekend.
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Dr. James Nezzo
Thank you. You too.
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Jake Novak
All right, coming up, the same Mexican government that's crying about tariffs from the US Is now slapping tariffs on China. No, it's real and it's spectacular. Thank you, Mexico. And the more the mainstream media insists the story isn't true, the more likely it seems to be true. And that's the case with a doozy of a story about Congresswoman Ilhan Omar. That story and more when American Sunrise Early Edition continues. Forget whatever plans you have this weekend because you're staying at home and playing on Spin Quests. And there's never been a better time to sign up than right now. New users get $30 coin packs for just $10. All the table games you love with hundreds of slot games and real cash Prizes. That's at spinquest.com S P I N Q U-E-T.com Spinquest is a free to play social casino void where prohibited. Visit spinquest.com for more details.
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Jake Novak
You know, when it comes to Christmas, I like understated. No, just kidding. That's Bellagio in Las Vegas, Nevada. You're not going to get understated in Las Vegas for Christmas or anything else. They don't do anything small over there. All right, folks, welcome back to American Sunrise EARLY edition. It's a no tie Friday. I'm Jake Novak. You're there on Getter and Rumble and X and Substack, commenting and having a good time looking at all this crazy news. A lot to cover today. It's really good. You get three hours worth of the entire American Sunrise package. We need more. But three hours will work because there's so many stories today. But I couldn't let this one go. The so called debunked story, I actually saw in a lot of mainstream news media last week that it was debunked. It wasn't true that Elon Omar married her own brother so that she could basically cheat the citizenship process in this country. Well, it's looking more and more true than ever. Last week we got the document that shows looks sure as looks like a marriage document showing her brother's name on it. And now we have a Somali community leader, not a Trump guy, not somebody on a blog, but a Somali community leader in Minnesota saying, yeah, everybody knows she married her brother and he feels that he's got the evidence for it. Emily Finn joins us now. But Emily, I want to bring you in not to talk about the gross thing. I mean, look, I don't think she actually like married him and went and lived with him. You don't get, you know, I think it was just on paper. Okay, I'm gonna give her a pass on that one. But I want to do a little bit of journalism training here with Emily Finn. She and I can train journalists because Ilhan Omar appears on a lot of mainstream news media outlets. And I'm sorry, this is journalism 101. The first question they should ask her is, can you just tell us yes or no? Did you legally. And make sure they say legally, because you could say, no, I didn't really marry him. In spirit. Did you legally marry your brother to get citizenship in this country for yourself or for him? Yes or no? And if they don't ask you that question, they're not real journalists, Emily.
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Emily Finn
But. Well, Jake, she's never going to come on your program because she's never wants to answer that question. And it is terrible that the mainstream media has been trying to cover this up. This is making me think of the Hunter Biden laptop that was also debunked. Also wasn't real until it was. Ilhan Omar is a literal fraud. She's actual fraud. She has committed a crime of immigration fraud by marrying her brother. And so there needs to be consequences for this. President Trump was just talking about it at a rally the other day, saying it's time to throw her out. You know, no one is above the law in this country, especially elected officials like Ilhan Omar. What a terrible, terrible example for the people of Minnesota for her to be skirting around the law like this.
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Jake Novak
Oh, and guess what, Emily. She's also skirting around Sharia law. For those people who think that she's a paragon of Islam. She's been in an open non, you know, out of marital relationship with one of her basically, like her allies, her political allies, and who's been getting a lot of money from organizations and takes a lot of the money people. When people donate to her campaigns. So she's also not exactly Ms. Sharia Law of the Year. This is really, to me, this is just an incredible. She's a plant. She's supported by Qatar and Iran and a lot of other organizations that really hate the United States of America. And the fact that she may have married her brother, and again, it looks really like she did. Who married her brother on paper might actually. How would you like this? Marrying your brother on paper is the least of your offenses. That. That's pretty scary. That's pretty scary.
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Emily Finn
That is pretty scary. Look, there does need to be consequences for the things that Ilhan Omar has done, but I will ask, where is Tim Waltz? Why is he not getting involved in this? Why isn't he calling for an investigation? This is happening under his watch in his state. Minnesota has so many problems that they need to get under control, Jake.
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Jake Novak
Yes. And in the words of Mick Jones in the Clash, Sharia don't like it. All right, Emily Finn, thank you so much for joining us. We'll see you in the next couple of hours on American the Big Show. And I'm gonna give you an early Happy weekend.
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Emily Finn
Happy weekend, Jake. Always great to see you.
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Jake Novak
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Jake Novak
Hey, let's take a look at where the markets are going to begin today. By the way, I'm sorry, that is Bryant park in New York City. That's right behind the New York Public Library. By the way, talk about a great lesson in Capitalism vs. Socialism. Bryant park used to be a city owned and controlled park in New York City. It was known as Crackpile Park. It was very dangerous. A small, it's really not a large park. And it was. And they gave it over to a private company to manage. And ever since then it's been fantastic. They have this temporary ice skating rink they put in during the winter and Christmas season. They have the. It's a great safe place to be in New York City because it is owned and operated by a private company and they make a lot of money off of it for themselves and for the city in sales taxes and things like that. Oh, we got one of the skaters there actually did a pretty good move. This is. These aren't like amateurs here. Pretty good. All right, let's take a look at where the market's. I got to begin today. And again we have this very interesting dichotomy in the market. This, by the way, yesterday's trade I think was a very good sign for the economy. I'm going to explain. But let's take a look. As you see, The Dow is up 100. The Nasdaq is up more than down more than 100. And I actually think this is a good sign for the economy as we take a look real quickly at bitcoin also. And you'll see that bitcoin has been gaining. Yeah. At 92, 000. So it's, it's starting to make a comeback. Yesterday on the markets we had a more than 600 point gain for the Dow and a slight loss for the nasdaq. A lot of the AI stocks lost money yesterday. And instead of the people who were selling those stocks and taking that cash and either keeping it in cash or buying bonds, investors bought Dow industrial stocks, they bought oil stocks, they bought manufacturing stocks, things like that. That's a very good sign for the economy. They're basically saying, I don't think the economy is crashing. I just think AI is a little overpriced. I'm going to take this money and I'm going to put it into something else. I'm going to put it into another Stock. That's a very good sign for the traditional economy. That tells me that investors believe that in 2026, when the big beautiful bill really kicks in, when some more of these tax cuts come in, there's going to be a lot more job and manufacturing jobs coming in also because of the tariffs forcing manufacturing back to the United States. I'm telling you folks, yesterday's stock market action was very positive for the economy. When things sell off and you don't put it in cash, you don't hide it in bonds, which is basically saying, I'm going to take a loss compared to inflation and just hold on to this for now and, and hope for the best. That's a really good sign. It's just a really good sign. That means that they believe that AI is a little overpriced, but we know it's very good. It's a good thing to own it. But I'm going to sell some of it and put it into something more traditional in the economy because the economy is going to grow. I think that's very, very interesting. I haven't seen that before. Usually if the NASDAQ sells off like that and everything goes down, but that wasn't the case yesterday. Okay, ladies and gentlemen, start your engines. This is Moving America, sponsored by Artillery Tea Company. And as we're about to talk about in just a few minutes, if you use the promo code brew kit for 10% off that, you're going to get 10% off the precision starter kit. So I'm gonna be talking about that in a few moments. But first, let's get into our Moving America car stories. Well, well, well, how the worm at the bottom of the tequila glass has turned. I'm playing a little Mexico joke there. Mexico is now slapping 50% tariffs on Chinese autos. And here's why they're doing it, folks. We all know what China's doing. They're selling super low cost electric cars mostly. A company called byd. They're the leaders in this and they're doing something called dumping. And this is what China can do. When you have a communist government that controls businesses, they can force businesses to sell their products overseas at a loss. Too bad you're going to lose money. That's your problem. And what that does is it kills the local competition. This is how China cornered the market, by the way, on rare earth mining. They offered rare earths at ridiculously low prices so that American companies and companies all over the world basically couldn't support their own rare earth mining. They're doing they're trying to do this with electric vehicles and Mexico saying, nope, we want to have the EVs that are made here in Mexico have a fighting chance. So they're slapping a 50% tariff on Mexico on a Chinese made and Chinese imported EVs. Now maybe they understand why the United States is doing the same thing to them. We're trying to work out a deal with them and I think we're getting close. But all that crying about how terrorists are bad and they're horrible. Mexico's doing it too, because they understand what China is all about. We're when it comes to dumping. So to me, this is a very big vote of confidence and a quiet, hey, you were right. To President Trump. Here's something that won't surprise you either. When it comes to car sales here in the United States, EV sales fell to 6.9% of the total market of the market share from 7.6% a year earlier. Remember, as you said, as I've told you many times on this program, and I'm not a genius for saying this, I don't think this is hard to get. Will never get more, in my opinion, than 10% of the market share for EVs in this country, unless another Joe Biden or Barack Obama comes along and says, you have to buy EVs or we'll throw you in jail. Which is probably what they'll try if they ever win another election. Anyway, it's gone down. But there's an interesting caveat to this. While the overall EV market share went down, Tesla's went up in October. Tesla is making a very interesting comeback as a company right now. By the way, Tesla shares over the last three months are up more than 21%. So for those of you who are writing Tesla's obituary, you were wrong. All right? And now another dispatch from the Democrat war on the poor. California is moving closer and closer to slapping an either 2 or 4 cent per mile tax for every mile that you drive. If you own an EV, why are they doing this? Because EVs don't use gas. And when you go to the gas station, you pay a big gas tax that goes to maintaining the roads. And EVs are heavier and do a lot more damage to the road. So I can understand finding some way to tax EVs for basically the damage they do to the roads and the fact that they're not going to the gas station. I get that. But they're doing it by mileage, which means that people who can't afford to live near the job centers of central Los Angeles or central San Francisco or Oakland and things like that are going to have to pay more. So you can't afford the rents close to your job. You got to live 50 miles away and now you're going to have to pay even more. This is like congestion pricing. This is a war on poorer workers, lower middle class workers, plain and simple. All right, this next story is like something out of a Benny Hill sketch, but I promise you it's true. I've checked up on it. You're about to see video of a poor guy who parked his spot in a spot in Britain. It was a legal spot. He just parked there. And while his car was parked, the cops came, the meter maids came and turned it and painted it into a handicap spot while he was parked there. They just changed it. And over the course of the evening, he got four tickets. I mean, this has got to be the worst luck I've ever seen. But you think he got a good spot and then you come the next morning and suddenly there's new fresh pain saying it's a handicap spot and you got four tickets. There is a happy ending to this. He did get the tickets removed, but he probably had to go to court and fight it and lost a couple days worth of work. But this has got. This is at the worst luck of parking I've ever seen in my life. All right, let's talk about Artillery T Co because they are the sponsors of this lovely Moving America segment. Mike Britton is one of the co founders. He joins us a lot to tell us about cool things going on. So I want you to tell us, Mike, what you've got going for the holiday gifting season. Because I know some people who would really appreciate some Artillery Tea in my family.
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Mike Britton
Yeah. Morning, Jake. So this year we put together something a little different. We haven't done this yet to put together kind of a kit type thing. It's called the precision brewing starter kit. So our tea is a little different than the grocery store tea. What you get in the grocery store is called tea dust or tea fennels. It's the lowest grade you can get. Ours is whole leaf that we pack into our biodegradable sachets that have no plastic and no glue or anything. But because it's whole leaf, you can brew it a little differently. So black tea, green tea, herbal tea can brew at different temperatures and steep for different times. And so we wanted to put together a kit that is kind of an all in one solution to this problem. We always say you can get two tea or two cups of tea. Excuse me, out of each one of our tea bags. And we, in this kit we give you the instructions on exactly how to do that. So included is a thermometer so that you can monitor the temperature for each different kind of tea. And the main thing is a magnet, actually you can stick to your fridge so somewhere easy to reference that shows you exactly what temperature to brew black tea, green tea and herbal tea, and exactly how long to steep it in order to get two kind of maximum flavorful cups out of each one of our tea bags. And so you have the magnet, a thermometer, and also an exclusive sticker that you can't get anywhere else on our site. There's a 15 off discount code in there for your next order. And then also we have four sample packs of our most popular blends. Each sample pack has three sachets in it and so you can get six cups out of each one of those sample packs for a total of 24 cups. So again, all in one kit has everything you need in it to be able to expertly brew black, green and herbal tea. Get, get the maximum volume out of, out of the product.
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Jake Novak
All right, Mike, I want to make two points here. First of all, look into the packaging that we were just showing you. You know, like when you were a kid and your parents got you a gift for, you know, for Christmas or your birthday and you like the box better. I mean, I think, I think I'm going to play with this box here more than the actual. That's, that's one thing. It's very, it's nasty packaging also, you know, look, this isn't just brewing up a cup of tea anymore. You're like the potions master at Hogwarts. We got the thermometer, we've got the instructions. Is this like the Half Blood Prince book where we're going to find out all these special things we're going to do? Is there a hack here, Mike? I mean, actually, what I love about this is that it's more than just a passive exercise. It's kind of like watching this program. I tell everyone it's not passive. Comment on Getter, comment on Rumble and X. This is, this is more of like an activity, you know, that you can do with a loved one. I love that.
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Mike Britton
Yeah, as you said, Harry Potter, I know if the audience will get this reference. But I immediately thought, yes, this is exactly like the Half Blood Prince's Potions book that has all the tips and tricks to get to exactly Brew it the right way. And so that's exactly what it is. And we're also doing a limited time. So it's already $20 off. Right. It's a $90 value. We offer it for $70 all the time, free shipping on all these things. But for the next week or two, we're going to offer an extra 10% off with that code brew kit that you see on the screen there.
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Jake Novak
Oh, my goodness. That's, that's amazing. And thank you for getting my Harry Potter references. I, you know, by the way, J.K. rowling, I mean, I already like the Harry Potter books, but J.K. rowling's public statements over the last few years has made me love them even more. Mike, just before we go, it's Christmas season, holiday season for everyone, new year, tell us what's been the most rewarding thing just this year for you? Working, you know, working with this company that you co founded.
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Mike Britton
Yeah. This will be the fourth calendar year for our company. And so we're starting to get a little momentum with our growth here. And one of the great things about that, Jake, is that we're finally able to do more for veterans and first responders that we wanted to do this whole time. And so recently, actually just last week, I submitted the finances for this I've announced on the show before, we're working with a nonprofit called Working Dogs for Vets. And just last week, we were able to finance a whole, a whole service animal, a whole dog, the whole training program and provide it to a veteran, too. And so I just did that last week. We're still waiting for details on, you know, which dog it is and the veteran and his backstory. And so I hope to be able to share that with the Rav family soon. But yeah, that, that's definitely been by far the most rewarding thing we've been able to do this year. Hope, hope to be able to do it more.
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Jake Novak
That's a great story. All right, Mike Britton, the boy who Lived artillerytco, thank you so much for joining us. I know you'll be joining us pretty soon again. And remember, we talk artillerytco.com is something mentioned every day on this program and I'm proud to do it. If I don't see you before Christmas in the new year, have a merry Christmas and a happy new Year.
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Mike Britton
Thanks, Jake.
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Jake Novak
All right, coming up, AI is like a plagiarism machine and the New York Times is fuming. Oh, they're so upset. I'll have the latest and later progressives like to make fun of parents in those hilarious commercials. When I say progressives, I mean progressive insurance. You know, those don't become like your parents commercials. But I think there's a lesson to be learned from those commercials that just dawned on me and beyond just the humor. American Sunrise, EARLY edition. We'll be right back.
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Jake Novak
It's Friday, December 12th. Here are this morning's top stories. The sound and the fury signifying nothing. That's Shakespeare, by the way. Both the Obamacare extension bill and the Obamacare replacement bill were both voted down in the Senate. And now we're going to have the Democrats crying about this all the way through the midterms. Got to find some way around this. So far, no success. Charlie Kirk's alleged assassin, Tyler Robinson smiles and smirks as he makes his first court appearance since that murder. But there's still too much secrecy around the proceedings. This was one of the rare times we've actually seen a courtroom proceeding with this guy. One tanker down, several more more to go. The Trump administration declares just about all of the Venezuelan oil out there to be fair game in the war against terrorism and narco terrorism. It's called the Monroe Doctrine, folks, and we're going after the money flowing to Nicolas Maduro and his family directly as well. And the worm at the bottom of the tequila glass is turning. Now it's Mexico slapping tariffs on China, specifically China's cheap electric car imports. There's Clarice Sheinbaum, the president of Mexico. America's Sunrise EARLY EDITION continues. Now, Are there, are there bars where you can still get a worm at the bottom of the tequila glass? Let me know if you've been to one lately. I'm not interested in that necessarily for myself, but I'd like to know that people are still following traditions. But yes, the worm has turned with Mexico now slapping tariffs on China. Come on, you knew this was going to happen. A lot of that news breaking overnight. Another thing I wasn't able to get to yet on this hour, but I know they're gonna be talking about it on American Sunrise. Is President Trump pardoning Tina Peters, the prisoner of conscience in Colorado, who all she did was access some records showing irregularities in the 2020 election and she's serving a nine year prison sentence for that. Unbelievable. Hopefully this pardon will start the process of actually getting out of prison. Prison. But remember, she's there on state charges and it's not clear whether a federal pardon for President Trump will completely get her out. It's going to be a legal battle, but this, I think is a good development. Joining us right now, though, to talk about some other things that we've got to get to because it's a busy news day is tech expert and the founder of AML Global and Liveshoots. And Ann, the New York Times is suing an AI startup. It's called Perplexity. Because to me, this is, to me this is a no brainer. You ask AI certain questions, AI programs certain questions, and they give you this information word for word from, you know, listen, I don't love the New York Times. I haven't looked at it in years. I can't stand it. But they're probably, AI programs have probably taken many of the thousands of articles I've written before and just taken it. I mean, that's just blatant plagiarism. I'm sorry, I'm kind of rooting for the Times on this one.
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Anne Leibish
Yeah. Good morning, Jake. So while AI is complicated technology and sophisticated technology, we're dealing with straightforward copyright law here, maybe complicated technology, but it's very straightforward copyright law. So what perplexity AI is doing is instead of a search engine, they, they, they bill themselves as an answer engine and they have technology that scrapes the websites, copies that information and then reproduce, you know, analyzes it and reproduces it in the form of answers. But the issue here is we have to get into copyright law. So copyright law is federal law. There's only one set of laws in the United States. Federal copyright law gives exclusive rights to the copyright holder. And one of those exclusive rights is the right to copy work. And another exclusive right is the right to reproduce the work. And only the copyright holder can do that and profit doesn't matter. Whether it's a business purpose doesn't matter. Only the copyright holder can do that. And what the technology is doing in its process is it's copying the work. And then when it is answering the questions, the Times is saying some of this information is verbatim, so, so it's reproducing the work. So the charges are that they are violating the exclusive right of the holder in terms of the right of reproduction and the right of distribution. And in this case, in this case, I'm actually surprised we haven't seen a lot more of these lawsuits. This is actually the second major lawsuit the new New York Times has brought against an AI company. But I'm surprised that we haven't seen a lot more and I think we'll see a lot more to come.
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Jake Novak
Well, maybe one of the reasons why is that apparently AI is taking over all the jobs of first and second year associates at all the fancy law firms. And AI is not ratting itself out. Maybe that's why. But it all seriously. And this reminds me of where we were, I don't know, was it 10 years ago, 12, 13 years ago, when a lot of the websites, but especially I think it was the Wall Street Journal that really took the lead on this, got upset about Google and Google basically pawning stuff off as if it was their own published material. Facebook had got in trouble over this as well. Could we see a similar resolution?
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Anne Leibish
Well, a little bit of a difference between how Google displays information and how Perplexity AI is displaying information. It's kind of the billing of a search engine versus an answer engine. And the way, you know, historically the way Google displays information is it gives you direct links to the information, whereas Perplexity AI presents the information and presents the content present and therefore is both displaying it as content that is its own. But there's a copying process, there's a distribution process. When it presents the answer that incorporates the information. So we may see similarities in, and we may see similarities in outcomes of the lawsuit, but we do have a different function here. And I just want to separate that, that when we're looking at copyright violations and in copyright lawsuits, those are different than antitrust claims that might be brought.
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Jake Novak
All right, that's, that's a good point. All right, let's get to something really sexy here because I think this is this bidding war for Warner Brothers discovery because it's really, this is taking me back to the 80s and hostile takeovers again. I urge everyone to read the book Barbarians at The gate about the RJR Nabisco takeover battle. This, to me is really cool, what's going on, because it's just kind of fun how every single day the bids are getting higher and stuff like that. But you know what? Maybe the winner will be the loser. I can't help thinking about the big AOL Time Warner merger. I was actually working at a Time Warner subsidiary at the time and $100 billion for them to buy. AOL had that work out. It actually wasn't a complete flop because at least it created a marriage between content creators and the Internet, which we know, of course is all the rage now and has been ever since. Still, from a, from that, for that corporation itself, it was not a winner. You know, maybe a huge conglomerate of a Netflix and Warner's together or a Paramount and Warner's together, maybe that actually won't be a good thing. Maybe they shouldn't. Maybe they should be happy to lose.
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Anne Leibish
Well, so, so, yeah, this has been an interesting story to read. There's a lot been going on in media and media mergers and it's kind of exciting. And so on one aspect of this, you know, we have the, the bidding wars. We have what's called a hostile, you know, you know, an attempt at a hostile takeover. That's where a company A comes in and goes directly, appeals directly to the shareholders and says, hey, this offer isn't good for you. I understand that the board of directors and corporate management has elected to go with this, you know, with this buyer, but this isn't the best value for shareholders and we want shareholders to reject it. So we've got the excitement of the hostile takeover, but then on the other side, the legal side of it is, is going to introduce a lot of uncertainty here. So not only what's the outcome going to be in terms of which company wins, but there is a government review that will take place over this merger or acquisition, whatever legal structure prevails. But it's not just about whether it's going to be Skydance, Paramount, or whether it's going to be Netflix or whether about it's this administration. There is a government review process that is designed to look at these mergers and acquisitions to protect consumer concerns. And specifically, we're going to have a lot of uncertainty on a lot for a long time as to whether or not this acquisition and merger takes place. Because there's something called the Clayton Act. And the Clayton act allows the FTC to step in and review these to make sure that the merger isn't going to reduce competition, create monopolies, create antitrust concerns for the American public, both in terms of whether or not it's going to concentrate a market in one hand, such as the streaming market, or, or whether indirectly affect consumers pricing or whether or not it's also going to impact creator and, you know, the creative industry and the creators and provide them not enough competition in places to bring their content. So we're going to have a lot of antitrust questions and a big review by the Federal Trade Commission as to whether or not this full merger can take place, regardless of whoever ultimate wins the bidding war.
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Jake Novak
Yeah. Well, I'll say something. One of the things they can do is win over the public. And if you're Netflix and you're listening, if you want to buy Warner Brothers, promise me that you'll do a 15 episode story about Yosemite Sam, Daffy Duck and Bugs Bunny from all those Warner Brothers Looney Tunes and then maybe I'll support it. All kidding aside, actually, I don't understand why companies don't do that when they're in a hostile bidding war. Show us what you're going to give us when you merge. And they don't actually do that. Anne Leibish, thank you so much for joining us. Have a great weekend. And hopefully you won't watch too many cartoons this weekend because I will be.
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Anne Leibish
Have a great weekend. Thanks, Jake.
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Jake Novak
All right, coming up, you know those progressive insurance ads that make a little light fun of the annoying things our parents do? I'd like to share a heartwarming thought about them that just came to me a couple of days ago. David Brody's gonna help me do that when American Sunrise early edition comes right back.
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Jake Novak
You're looking at video of the lighting of the Rockefeller Center Christmas tree yesterday evening. Last evening. Beautiful sight. A lot of people come to the city for it. But you may notice people are pretty far away from the actual tree. They are pushing the crowds further and further away from the actual tree in display because they're worried about protesters vandalizing it. Sooner or later they might even just cancel the whole thing. They do that in Europe, by the way, so that they can make the terrorists feel better. It's frustrating. There's a lot of news overnight, as I said at the top of the program. Can't cover it all just in this program. So please stay tuned for the next couple of hours of American Sunrise, because one thing I didn't even get to is that the Indiana legislature decided not to do the redistricting plan that President Trump and everyone else wanted. So a victory for the Democrats there because a couple of Republicans crossed cross party lines. So we'll get to that, too. A lot of things to talk about. But I want to end this hour on a non manufactured, non phony, heartwarming note because this came to me very organically over the week, folks. You know those ads for progressive insurance, I think they are the funniest ads on television where they talk about how becoming a homeowner might make you turn into your parents and you take on some of their annoying or little quirky habits. There's one, and it's the Dr. Rick, that's the name of the character who goes and tries to help them. Something dawned on me during the week, though, that you know what? We should be so lucky. Almost every behavior, as David Brody joins us, almost every behavior they make fun of in those commercials is a heartwarming, outgoing, friendly behavior. Usually it's the, the young homeowner going and talking to someone a little bit too much, maybe offering a little bit too much friendship, basically being friendlier. And you know what? In this day, when we're pretending to talk to each other on our phones, because that's not real when you're texting and things like that, you know what? We should be so lucky if our parents are the kinds of people who were friendly to strangers, offered them a little advice about what to order at a restaurant, tried to help the guy who ordered his coffee get it, you know, that should be our biggest sin, David. I'm sorry, I'm just a softie.
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David Brody
I think you're absolutely right. You are a softie, Jake, by the way, Mr. Softy. Now I need to get some ice cream. So a couple of things. First of all, reality and humor always work, right? I mean, in other words, this hits two subsets, right? In their advertising campaign, it hits the parents, older folks who go, oh, yeah, that's me. And they kind of chuckle. And then they hit the younger folks that go, oh, yeah, that's totally my dad. That's totally my mom. It hits both insurance groups, if you will. That's the reality. And of course, it's humor based as well. And look, I mean, family friendly, right? I mean, the coke thing with. What was it? I like to teach the world to sing, right? That was that whole big thing in the 70s, right? You know, bringing family, in that case, it was like, I think the world together. But what about State Farm? Like a good neighbor, everybody knows the next part. State Farm is there.
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Jake Novak
So.
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Dr. James Nezzo
Right?
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David Brody
I mean, you just know this type of stuff because it is family friendly. Even the Wendy's where's the Beef, right? That was funny, ha ha. But where's the beef was what your. Your grandmother who's like kind of not. She wasn't senile there in Wendy's. In the Wendy's commercial. But she was like, okay, Grandma, stop. You know, just, you know, serve. Serve the mashed potatoes.
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Jake Novak
But let's stop. Her name was Clara Pell, David. The woman, the where's the beef woman, her name was Clara Pell. And I remember that story really well being. Because she became a hit. She was a national sensation in 1983. That's when that ad first ran. And I remember they interviewed her and she said, you know, a lot of my friends are jealous in the nursing home or the old age home. And I said, well, there was an open audition. You all could have gone. And so don't be angry at me. I went, you know, good for her. And I remember my mom looking at me like, you see, you gotta be outgoing. So, you know, you learn things from your elders. Even our. Even their funny behavior.
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David Brody
I should also point out I just tried to do some research this morning on those Dr. Rick commercials for Progressive. And though the information is proprietary, as you might imagine, in terms of ad sales, what they do say, and you can see specifically is that there's an extremely high engagement online, which is obviously a telltale sign that things are going well. And by the way, it's been around for a few years, obviously, and they keep doing new commercials and that says everything you need to know.
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Jake Novak
That's my happiest moment when they have the new commercial out, especially during the NFL games. All right, David Brody, you're going to be joining us for all that news that some of it I couldn't get to in the next couple of hours on American Sunrise. American Sunrise early EDITION will be back for you on Monday. Please have a good weekend. I'll see you then.
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