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Good morning. This is AMERICAN SUNRISE EARLY edition. I am Brian Glenn here at some of the headlines that matter. First on Capitol Hill, a new warning about what's fueling the chaos inside America. A House hearing underway. Fall following the money behind the anti American protests, anti ice violence that's running through US Nonprofits, foreign money, hidden channels, a trail pointing to China, what lawmakers say has been hiding in plain sight. That straight ahead. And then to the White House. Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu set to meet President Trump today. I ran red lines. Next moves high stakes moment with consequences far beyond words. Why this meeting could decide what comes next. That straight ahead. And finally, a reckoning for social media, Big tech on trial over what it knew about kids and addiction, what was built, what was hidden, what it costs kids. Now the evidence coming out. All this straight ahead right here on AMERICAN Sunrise EARLY Edition that starts right now. Welcome to American SUNRISE EARLY edition, the show where faith, freedom and the values that built this nation take center stage. You people and others like you built this country. Join us as we break down the stories that matter. F A F O. If you don't know now, you know. American SUNRISE EARLY EDITION on Real America's VOICE starts now. All right. Good morning. Now you know where to turn to for the all your the day's news. All right. We got a lot on tap right now, but here's how you can start your day with this. Take a look at the bottom of your screen right now. That's a key QR code. That's your ticket to join the Weather Nation family. Scan it, get connected. And better yet, you have your hometown forecast. That could be next. And head over to Real America's voice on the chats, getter rumble, YouTube during the 9am hour of American Sunrise. If you're selected, we'll deliver your hometown forecast live. So jump in, be a part of the fun and join us over at Weather Nation. Now joining us for today's forecast is our very own Weather Nations, Tracy Anthony. Tracy, good morning. Good to see you today. So what's on top? We still dealing with some cold weather.
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Yeah. You know, we're still going to have some cold weather in the Northeast. So you're going to have to still bundle up the rest of the country. We are warming up, but things are starting to get a little more active. So we started off the work week on the slow side. But we have several systems that will be impacting us from coast to coast. So New England, you are going to have a Low pressure center working on through. So we're going to be battling some snow for the next day. We do have some beneficial rain coming to the south. We're going to have several waves of that and a big weekend system we're tracking. And out west conditions stay active. So we have several lows that will push on shore across California, Nevada and bring a good amount of snow to the inner mountain west as well. So here's what we're looking at just for the day today. A little snow for New England. We're going to have some rain. This is much needed. The drought conditions across the Southeast have been pretty, pretty bad the last few months, so we'll take any rain we can get there. But out west we are expecting to get slammed. Some of the higher elevations could have one to two feet of snow. Temperature is still going to remain pretty mild. Denver 61 and Bismarck 48. So North Dakota getting a nice little break. And out across the east coast, areas like New York City, 40°, you're not too bad today. 46 in D.C. so we're feeling those temperatures above average now into the weekend. We're, we have this big system that we're going to be tracking. It's very similar to the one we had just about a week ago. So this is going to impact a lot of people from the Southeast into the mid Atlantic. We're going to have a little chance for snow on the north end, but the rain is going to cause the potential for some flooding concerns. So it could also kind of kick off our severe weather season. So we're going to have to watch the system very, very closely with the flooding and isolated snow. The good news is it's a warmer system and the snow, if it does come, it's just going to be a narrow band, but D.C. could have a few flakes. It's not going to, it's not going to stick though with those warmer temperatures, Brian. So that's what we have. So lots of activity here headed into the next couple of days.
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My son was asking me about spring break forecast down there in Florida. I said, you know what, Caden, it's a little too early to predict that, but hopefully some of those colder temperatures stay to the north and stay out of, out of your state of Florida. All right, Tracy, thank you so much. And as a reminder, one of our viewers can get their lucky hometown forecast right there. So don't forget to scan that QR code and get signed up for that. All right. As we start this morning, let's begin with today's word. Today's verse comes from Psalm 118, 24. It reads, this is the day the Lord has made. Let us rejoice and be glad in it. That is always a classic verse right there. All right. Let's turn to our top story right now on Capitol Hill. A House hearing digging into what's fueling the chaos inside America. Anti American protests, anti ICE violence, campus unrest, city streets on the edge. Lawmakers say it isn't organic. It's financed foreign money moving through US Nonprofits. One of the witnesses testifying, Scott Walter, he's president of Capital Research Center. Scott, you told lawmakers the line between charity and politics that has collapsed with foreign billions rounded through tax exempt groups to shape the narrative, steal the protest and influence American life. Scott joins us now to talk about that. How these networks operate and where does this trail lead? Scott?
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Well, one of the main places it leads and arguably the worst of the foreign donors is a man called Neville Roy Singham and he's a foreign donor even though he's a U.S. citizen. He lives in Shanghai and he's joined at the hip with the Chinese Communist Party there. He's created a non profit network that goes literally around the world pushing Chinese talking points. The country of India has gone after him for this and now the Ways and Means Committee in America has also gone after him on this.
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And we knew you go back to like the BLM riots and a lot of the backing of the BLM movement was Chinese for blacks funneling money into these what would seem to be a very organic organization. But what can be done to stop the money and maybe hold people accountable? Because there are consequences for fueling some of this violence as we see, you know, we've had, you know, mishaps with killings of people and businesses burned down as a result of putting money in these organizations.
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Well, you're right, it is an outrage. And you know, we have to be honest, we have plenty of bad billionaires here as well as those abroad. They create this infrastructure that can send people into the streets, a tiny minority of people, but some violent people, some dangerous people, and they throw them into the streets. You know, whatever the apparent excuse is, whether it's Gaza or George Floyd or ICE or the rest, this left wing infrastructure financed through nonprofits sends people into the streets at the drop of a hat.
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And we've even seen employment opportunities on websites like Craigslist and other websites that post up that they're hiring these people to come out and demonstrate in the streets, you know, what can be done to maybe Some of these sites that promote or they're fueling some of this violence. Is there anything that we can do there as well?
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Well, you know, because America is such a decent country and we have a tradition of the rule of law, it's not super easy. Right. It's hard to prove the conspiracy. But the first step in this, the biggest, in a way, the biggest problem is, you know, back in the 60s you had nihilistic violence like this too. But mayors didn't tolerate it. And mayors of both parties in big cities would not tolerate this kind of violence on their streets. But now, of course, Portland, Seattle, Chicago and else Minneapolis, you don't have the local law enforcement shutting this down. That's a huge part of the problem.
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So really to begin to shut this down is it goes to the local authorities. Who's in charge. The mayor, I guess the governor of a state would be like Minnesota, Great example. Because you don't see these, these protests in Republican or conservative led cities or even states to that matter.
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Well, yes, you're right about that. And it's very sad because, you know, the feds don't have enough boots on the ground in every city in America to enforce the law. And of course they're not supposed to. That's supposed to be the state and city's job.
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Yeah. Well, you know, I think to a certain extent the federal government as we saw in Minnesota, needs to come in. And we've seen that across the country when these protests erupt. Look at Los Angeles. It took, you know, Gavin Newsom and Karen Bass had no interest in cutting, shutting down the violence that was happening in Los Angeles last year until President Trump brought in the National Guard and was able to at least make that area civilization so they wouldn't burn down the city. All right, so what do you anticipate going forward? Are any big changes happen, happening that we can at least feel a little bit at ease, that these funded, foreign funded protests won't get any bigger as we go into midterms now because we're heading into, into the midterms and this is kind of when they seem to flare up the most.
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Well, it, I do think there'll be some differences as one difference is that investigations both by Congress and by the executive branch are beginning to get underway. And you know, if this were fully exposed, I think the Americans across the spectrum would be outraged. So something could happen on that. The other thing that might happen is that you will see efforts to prevent groups that get foreign money from being as active in politics. There are legal changes that could be made so that, you know, if some of these nonprofits get foreign funding, they have to admit it and then they can't play in politics by giving money to super PACs, for instance.
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Yeah, that's a great example on that.
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All right.
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As we kind of make our way into the midterms and we know that things come up, I mean, there's, you know, it just takes one more tragic incident on the streets of America for some of these protests to erupt. And we know that they're not organic. They are simply fueled by foreign money. Thank you so much for joining us, Scott. We appreciate your time today.
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Thank you.
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All right. Coming up today inside the White House, high stakes a meeting will take place. Trump, Netanyahu and Imran. In focus. Will this be diplomacy or is it war planning? We'll find out what's at stake. That's coming up next. All right. Welcome back. AMERICAN sunrise. That is a live look at the White House. All right. Welcome back to THE EARLY edition. A major development this morning in the search for Nancy Guthrie. Newly recovered images show an armed individual at her front door appearing to tamper with a security camera. Now the morning she vanished. Now the video was recovered from a back end system after recording devices were removed. The FBI and local authorities are renewing calls for tips and the search intensifies. Former FBI agent special agent Jonathan Gillum joins us later to talk about that. What's emerging on this investigation in California, a very familiar pair teaming up Senator Adam Schiff face off with Trump, impeachment and years of Russian collusion claims is now throwing in his support behind Eric Swalwell for governor. Now Swalwell, the congressman is linked to the alleged Chinese spy Fang Fang and has faced zero consequences. All of this comes as Democrats jockey to replace long term limited Gavin Newsom in that state. Now two names, one record and one power play in California. Keep an eye on that. In other news, new on the music charts, a surprise at number one. Kid Rock rocketing to the top of itunes beating out Bad Bunny. His cover of Til you can't debuted after the super bowl halftime show Faith Country America first. This message is resonating and the numbers don't lie. Now our top story. Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu in Washington meeting with President Trump at the White House. A high stakes meeting with consequences far beyond this room. What's said publicly and what's being shaped by behind closed doors, not the same. Joining us now, Brandon Weichert. Brandon, what decisions made in that room can change the course of what comes next. Big day today in the White House.
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It's a big day. It's going to be historic. Clearly, what's happening behind the scenes is more intense than what we're seeing on camera. Last night when he arrived, Prime Minister Netanyahu had a meeting in the White House with both Jared Kushner, the President's son in law, as well as Steve Witkoff, who's the lead negotiator for these Iran talks. We don't know what was said, but the image that was leaked out showed that there was a lot of coordination going on between the US Side and the Israeli side even before the meeting today with Trump, which indicates to me that the administration is still leaning toward initiating strikes against Iran. Even though they're doing these talks, it doesn't really matter. Trump's talking about moving a second aircraft carrier strike group in. So I would not put much faith in these talks, especially because the key thing now, Netanyahu is insisting that the Iranians give up their ballistic missile as well as nuclear weapons program. No doubt the nuclear weapons. The nuclear weapons program is a problem, and the ballistic missile program is actually a greater threat to the world. But the Iranians are saying, hey, we don't have an air force. The only thing we have is the. Are those missiles. We're not getting rid of them.
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Yeah. I was talking to a colleague yesterday at the White House, and they were saying, well, if President Trump gets us into any type of strike with Iran, it's going to be quick, it's going to be in and out. But one would think when you move that many assets to that region, how is anything going in and out? This is like Midnight Hammer, where they flew this bomber halfway across the world to make an exact strike, and then they got out. This is a, this seems to be a little different. I know that when we talk to Americans every day you talk to, we see it online, they are not wanting the US to strike Iran on behalf of Israel. That's not what most Americans want. Yeah. Would you agree? Yeah.
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Oh, I agree. In fact, I think this could really harm the president's midterm, the GOP's midterm elections. And I think actually it's not looking very good, partly because Americans are fed up with these foreign interventions. And you're right, the kind of strikes that are being lined up here are not going to be pinprick strikes specifically directed against, say, a couple of nuclear facilities. These will be comprehensive, they will be sustained, and they will be targeting the regime. Now, that's Very different from what happened before. This is a regime change war by another name. This is what the Israelis want. And ultimately, it's very key to understand this. If we go in that way, the Iranians will throw everything in the kitchen sink at us in retaliation because they know this is it for their regime. So we're talking about a much larger engagement, one that could go sideways very fast. It's the Middle east, after all.
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Yeah. And I think this would be something that would really stay with Trump's legacy when he leaves office, that potentially, if this thing goes sideways, that's on him. Now, he has warned the Iranian government that if they continue to kill. This is weeks ago, Kill protesters, that he would act accordingly. Now, I saw some reports where up to 90,000 protesters have been killed during these conflicts in the streets. I don't know if that's confirmed or not, but that would lead me to, I guess, assume that that would be enough for him to engage in, I would think, a substantive strike on Iran.
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I think your audience needs to remember that the president wanted to go in on January 15, and he was pulled back by the Qataris, the Saudis, the Turks, even the Israelis, because the Israelis said, we're not yet ready. Then again, a couple weekends ago, I was on with Steve Bannon and I was saying, they're going in. This is what I was hearing. And then Trump pulled back at the last minute because he didn't think we were quite yet ready. Now it's a different story. So the strike window is open. He wants to go in. He was very close to previous times in the last several weeks. So I think this is a fait accompli, whether or not the protesters are being killed, and it's terrible. And they are being killed en masse. The fact of the matter is that's not really America's problem.
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It's not. It's not. I mean, you look on social media, people do not want any type of engagement, violent engagement with Iran. They don't. It's not. It's not our war. This is maga. It's not anything other than maga. And that's. Brandon, that's exactly what it is. By the way, that meeting takes place this morning at 11am and then we were talking off camera. Netanyahu comes back in about a week. He might just stay in town. I don't know if it's even worth the fight to go back. But he stays in town for more meetings. Yeah.
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I don't know if he's saying he is very unpopular. I have a lot of Israeli contacts and Netanyahu is not popular right now and it's because of the excessiveness of his policies. He was very popular. Now he's not. And I think you and I, somebody had said that he's a lot like Israel's Joe Biden in terms of how he doesn't get press conferences. He's very detached. That is very much, he's very much alone in the bunker here. And the difference here is that he still has a lot of power in the Israeli system. The Israelis have tried to remove him from office and every time they do, he then opens up another front in the wars and suddenly everybody's distracted. So he's actually a lot like Bill Clinton during the Lewinsky trial as well where Clinton was bombing the Middle east every time a new development occurred during those impeachment hearings. So he's very unpopular. But ultimately right now he has all the power in Israel and he wants what he wants, which is the destruction of the Iranian regime, which I don't like the regime either by the way, in Iran.
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Correct.
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But I also, it's not our problem.
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Yeah, he can have all the power he wants in Israel. I just don't want him to have the power here in our country. Brandon?
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That's right.
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Thank you so much for joining us. I appreciate your time this morning. We'll keep an eye on that. All right. We come back. The Dow is hitting an all time high for the third straight session. Markets are poised as we await the opening bell. We'll be right back with more right here on American Sunrise. All right. Welcome back America Sunrise early edition. I am Brian Glenn. Now a quick word from one of our sponsors, the Birch Gold Group. Now a new year means new financial goals making sure your savings are secure and diversified. Would this be the year you finally listened to me and other on this on this network talk about our friends over the Birch Gold Group. Honestly they're great people. I appreciate their educational approach and their understanding of macroeconomics and their forces pushing the dollar lower and gold higher which is why they believe every American should own physical gold. So now until you know we've got next month if you're else for a first time gold buyer the Birch Gold group is offering a rebate up to $10,000 on qualifying purchases to claim eligibility to that start the process process distex America to 989-898 to the BirchCo Group. They can help you roll an existing IRA into a 401k or a backed gold IRA and especially you might be eligible for that rebate up to $10,000. So make sure right now if you're a first time gold buyer, take advantage of the Rebate up to 10,000 right now. Text America to 9800, 9898 to claim your eligibility today. Again, that's America. Information's on your screen. Do it right now. 989-898. The Birch Gold Group. All right. Right now all eyes are on the markets. The Dow coming off record highs as we await the opening bell. Joining us now is Scott Shelady, the host of the Cow Guy Close. Scott, what should investors be watching first? This morning you and I were talking before we came on. I remember when this Dow was 10,000. It seems like millennium years ago, decades and it was almost but man, 50,000.
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Crazy because I'm old. We both remember that. But yeah, you're right. It went from. Let's just talk about what we need to watch today. We need to watch today that we've got a non farm payroll number. It's a delayed one from Friday. It's going to be a big one to see if the Fed's got any more room to cut interest rates. Investors want interest rates lower. The president wants rates lower. So if we get a really strong number that's going to be harder to cut rates. So we're looking for something to come in line or maybe a little bit light and then that's going to give the market some more reason to trade higher because we're going to be looking to cut rates. And then on Friday we have a CPI number, Consumer price Index that's going to be an inflation issue. So we wanted that inflation number to come in light as well so that they can continue to cut rates and that's going to continue to drive these markets higher. But what's really behind it, Brian, is the fact that we've got great earnings, double digit growth there. We've got a great GDP. Our economy is expanding at over 5%. The last quarter would have been fantastic if it wasn't for the shutdown. So there's a lot of reasons to celebrate. But also in today's day and age, I think you'd agree with me, everything happens a lot faster than it used to, that's for sure. And it's hard to get older while things are happening faster. But just to give you an idea, from 40,000 to 50,000 it took us 630 calendar days, from 40,000 to 50630 calendar days to make that 10,000 point jump. But you know what? From 10,000 to 20,000, it took 10 times that, about 6,700 days. So as we've gotten closer and closer to these higher numbers, it's happening faster. So why I bring that up is this. It may seem ridiculous to a lot of people out there when the President tweets dow100000 by the end of his term, but if you look at the trajectory of how quickly we're reaching these milestones, and we're doing them a tenth of the time it did take, you know, it took 25, 30, 40 years ago. It's within reach. It's not as crazy as it might sound.
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Yeah, no, that's an excellent point. And people need to understand that, because before you explain that, I thought to myself, there's not enough calendar days, there's not enough years in this term to get to 100,000. That's a great assessment on that. All right, looking at the nasdaq, what stands out to you on the, on.
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That right now we've got a, we've got a rotation out of the big tech. You know, the Mag 7 people still own them, but not as much. And it's not a bad thing because what they're telling us is this, is that there's going to be some adoption of artificial intelligence throughout the rest of the economy. And so things that used to lag because magnificent seven stocks, they're starting to come back to 493 that were unloved over the last two years. So you're seeing a rotation out of some of these big tech names into just bog standard banks. We're looking at housing things that haven't really been doing well over the last couple, three years now are coming back into the floor because we're able to use AI and in their businesses. So we've had, we've gone from inception when we've invented artificial intelligence. Now we're really more into application. And that application is happening across all business sectors. And so you're seeing a broadening out of the market, which investors should know is a good, strong sign. It's not as healthy to see just seven stocks do well and 493 lag. You want to see them all doing well. And we're getting closer and closer to that.
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Okay, let's turn our attention over to oil. What are we seeing there and what can we expect as we kind of go into the summer, go into the spring, summer of 26 of this year?
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Yeah, I mean, oil is probably the biggest driver of inflation right. In the short term. And it's the only way that the President can get money into the pockets of the consumers on a weekly basis. Every time you fill up with gas, if you save money, that is an absolute tax break. It's anti inflation inflammatory. So that's something that he's going to make sure he's going to keep an eye on. And we've moved up to around that 6465 level. As of late, we had been between 55 and 60. I don't see it going much further past 70 because that's going to put a crimp into the inflation plans, which then would put a crimp into rate cut plans. So I think between 55 and 65 is what we'll say. We're at the higher end of it right now. Nothing too crazy there. The places that we're seeing the crazy moves and maybe you're going to bring this up next and I'm jumping the gun. I apologize. But in the metals markets, they've been all over the place and they've been very, very volatile.
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We got about a minute left. I can't let you go without talking about bitcoin and crypto, man. My goodness. You might have to. If someone's in those positions, I would imagine they're taking a lot of stomach acid right now. A lot of Tums because their stomach's got to be going up and down.
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My dad was an old trader on the floor and he'd say the bitcoin market would drive a wooden man nuts. And I think he's right. If he said it today, it would absolutely drive a wooden man nuts. It's seen the value get basically cut in half. And the problem is, is that there's. The use case is a little bit, it's lagging. I don't know why the market got surprised by the use case, but it's not really generally well accepted to use it out there in the world. And that's why gold and silver have kind of taken over that mantle. Remember, it was only about five or eight years ago when nobody wanted to touch gold and silver and it was all about bitcoin. We drove it to 126,000 and change. Now it's about half of that because everybody's now focused back their attention to gold and silver because of the dollar debasement, trade and inflation and chaos and all the reasons that you'd want to own those metals. So now the metals are shining and bitcoin's been put on the back burner.
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Scott Shellady. Thank you so much this morning. I hope you have a great rest of the day. We'll keep an eye on the markets.
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All right. You, too.
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All right. This morning, the case against meta. What's social media new about kids and when? That's coming up next. Stick around. Welcome to american sunrise early edition, the show where faith, freedom and the values that built this nation take center stage.
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All right.
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Welcome back again to AMERICAN SUNRISE EARLY edition. I am Brian Glenn. Thanks so much for joining us. Let's head over to our Denver newsroom for the latest headlines with Terence Pace. Terence, good morning.
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Brian, good morning to you. Look, a lot happening rhetoric or reality? That's the question I'm posing this morning as Minnesota Governor Tim Walls close claims the ICE operation in the state will end in days, not weeks. He's basing that assessment, Brian, on his conversations with top Trump administration officials. But in the meantime, the White House is listing its illegal immigration and crime crackdown as one of the major successes that the mainstream media just doesn't want to talk about. And that's why Press Secretary Caroline Levitt did it for them on Monday.
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A federal appeals court today, nobody asked about that, just upheld the Trump administration's policy of detaining illegal aliens, validating the strong measures that have driven illegal crossings to historic lows and sent a crystal clear message that under President Trump, if you enter the country illegally, you will be detained and removed. The murder rate again, not a single question about this has plunged to a 125 year low as crime falls across the board thanks to President Trump's crime crackdown.
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Brian, that comment coming during yesterday's White House press briefing, I believe you were in the room. I'd love to get your reaction to how that went over. You know, sometimes when someone turns the tables on you and calls out your faults, it doesn't necessarily go over quite as smoothly as one might think.
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It doesn't. Now, she did that at the very end of the briefing. The briefing started about 45 minutes late. She came out, she addressed the top breaking news at the time, which was some of the leads in the Savannah Guthrie, Nancy Guthrie's disappearance. So she led with that. But here's what happens in the briefing room when you fill it with people who don't necessarily want to ask you the questions that you have the answers for that the American people need to hear. I'm not surprised that she had to recap it at the end of the briefing, but those are great numbers. There's a lot of positive news coming out of this administration that we're not hearing from the legacy media, but that's who sits in the chairs of Frank Front. That's who she gets to call on. Outlets like ourselves, get to line the sides of the briefing room. And quite honestly, sometimes she can't see us in her defense. But you kind of got to expect that when you call on certain outlets, they're not going to ask you about the accomplishments of the Trump administration. They're just not going to do it.
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Yeah. You know what, I wonder if Caroline Levitt is going to start doing more of that, laying out the narrative that the White House wants to lay out, laying out the stories that it wants covered just since the main.
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They usually do, though. They usually do. Yeah, they usually do. Okay.
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All right.
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It was definitely, as I was sitting here listening to it, I was like.
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Oh, oh, yeah, it was a mic drop. Yeah. Then she walked off.
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It was definitely a mic drop. Yeah, exactly. Hey, so look, let's stay at the White House, Brian, where President Trump is set to welcome Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu later today. The two leaders, of course, expected to to discuss next steps when it comes to Iran and its nuclear program, along with the response to the Islamic regime's deadly crackdown on protesters. The issue of Gaza likely will also come up, though, as one might expect. The Trump administration brokered. Cease deal, cease fire, excuse me, between Israel and Hamas appears to be holding, which is good news. But as for the issue of Iran, today's meeting does come amid ongoing negotiations between the United States and Tehran over ending the Islamic regime regime's nuclear ambitions. Before leaving for the United States on Monday, though, Netanyahu told reporters that he would, quote, present to the President our approach around our principles on the negotiations. That approach, by the way, is reportedly based on new intelligence that he plans to share with the Commander in chief specific to Iran's military capabilities, including new long range ballistic missiles. I'm curious to see how this ultimately shapes the out, because obviously Israel and Benjamin Netanyahu have a huge dog in this fight and they're going to want to push things their way and influence President Trump's decision making. I think that's a pretty accurate assessment of how things likely will go today, Brian.
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Yeah, that's his approach. Now America has a different approach. We said that in a previous segment. I, I think that he can have all the power he wants in Israel, but as far as having power over American policy and what we do as America, overwhelmingly we don't want that. And so obviously we want peace in that region. We don't want to get into another long war. That's the biggest concern that takes place Today, Terrence, at 11:00am this morning in the Oval Office. So we'll see how, how that unfolds.
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Absolutely. So, Brian, I know you're probably tired of talking to me, but prepare to talk to me more throughout the day because anytime there's big stories at the White House and you're there, I'm going to be calling on you to have a prayer reports.
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I think at one o', clock, you and I are going to connect. I have a just a odd feeling about that.
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My gut tells me that's probably accurate.
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All right, Terence, we'll see it on the American Sunrise in about an hour. Thank you. All right. Now to a story parents across America are watching closely. Meta and other social media giants facing a jury accused of designing platforms to keep kids hooked. Internal documents, allegations of harm and questions about what they knew and when they knew it. Joining us now, Marlee Hornick, a government fraud expert and CEO of Real America. Vote Marley. Could this case become the moment when big tech finally forced to answer for the real world harm that's linked to its platforms?
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That's what so many parents across this country are hoping and fascinating. Brian, this is not a partisan issue. Finally, for once, we have something that all parents are up to here with, which is the control that social media platforms have over our children's minds, their activities and their behavior. You know, it creates like a bubble world where our kids have all this autonomous economy and they think they're making great decisions, but they're being strongly and heavily influenced. And that's what these internal documents show that are at stake in the case. You know, YouTube and Meta are both claiming, hey, we're not responsible for this girl's problems. She had other problems and she just went onto social media and watched some videos to help her through that process. But in reality, their internal documents tell a difference to story. That's what this case is going to hang on. I couldn't agree with you more.
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You know, it's interesting when first, when let's just go back. When Facebook first came out working in the news industry, we were told if you're caught on Facebook in the newsroom and you're not doing your job, you're going to be written up. There is no place for staying on Facebook or any social media platform in the workplace. Now. It seems like it's so it's so ingrained into the news industry and not only does a lot of outlets get their information from social media platforms, but they use it to get it out as well. But that has been weaponized now, and we've got a lot of foreign governments and foreign agencies and a lot of NGOs that use social media to push a particular social cause, which causes then perhaps chaos in our communities. I think it's destructive, but I don't know how you can. I mean, that's the magical question, though, Marley. How do you control it? How do you prevent kids from watching content that could corrupt them at the age of 8 and 9? They can process some of this stuff.
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Absolutely. And this is one of the challenges this case is going to see, especially if it weren't for all those internal documents showing that these CEOs knew their platforms were unsafe. And, you know, by the way, there is a lawsuit against Meta opening yesterday also in New Mexico, claiming that Meta knew that sexual content was being fed directly and intentionally to teenagers. So they're on the hook all over the country. The problem is they're like, it's not whether or not they can control the content better or can create a safer platform. It's whether or not these individuals are going to be able to prove that Meta caused this girl's problems or that YouTube caused this girl's problems, made her addicted, and created a mental health crisis for her personally. There's no question that across the country, parents, like I said, and you're saying, we've really had it. Our kids are being, you know, in the past, when somebody wanted to push something junky on our kids, we could walk with them through that decision. The danger of a phone, it's not like the cereal aisle at the grocery store where, you know, your kid is reaching for Choco Nuts or whatever, and you really want them to have bacon and eggs. And you can participate when they're on their phone. You cannot possibly monitor every single image and idea and expression that they're being subjected to. And meanwhile, the platform is telling them, hey, you're making great decisions. Let's feed you more of that and more and more and more. So the question that's really tricky in this case, and that's they're going to find the same thing in New Mexico, is whether or not the platform actually caused this girl's problems. I think, you know, we may end up, you know, it's like, imagine when the cigarette lawsuits were all unfolding, and it's like, you know, if you smoke a Marlboro in the morning and then a Camel later, is Marlboro or is Camel responsible? Well, they're Both responsible.
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B
Yeah, Remember like go back, I'm 56 years old and I was told I grew up in the era of television. So they always, you're always told, don't watch too much television, you're watching too much television, go out and you know, read a book, take a walk. But now these kids can doom scroll for hours, lay in bed when, you know, when they, late at night they could just lay in bed and just scroll and scroll. And just like you said, they're getting fed the content that they're watching the longest. Like there's so much technology in these platforms, they know exactly what you look at for more than five seconds, more than 10 seconds, more than 30 seconds. And if you're watching a video of any type of format for that length of time, they're going to continue to feed that to you. I think social media, this thing right here, it's been the most destructive device and technology in our history of as a culture because no one watched too much Seinfeld and then went crazy and had depression. It didn't happen. It's a different time.
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A
Right. Well that's the key thing here is, and this is one of the arguments that the plaintiffs attorneys are making, which is that it's not just that they're watching a lot of content, it's that they're driving the content through their own choices. They're creating, creating a reality that is highly entrancing. They're creating a world that they exist inside of. This is very, very dangerous because as we see kids are withdrawing from the real world. They're happier in this bubble that they seem to think or they believe they can control, but they're really not controlling it. Now one of the key things in this case is going to be that the argument the companies are going to make is well, we're not responding responsible for the content the kids are watching. That's a free speech issue under section 230. But I think the attorneys are going to make this argument and their point is that no, it's not about the content itself, it's about the design of the platforms, the way that they are structured and the doom scrolling like you say, they are designed to keep kids hooked. So it's not so much the particular video, you know, I mean my kids watch all these videos and some of them are funny, I have to admit it. And it was a battle in my home. I don't know about other parents. But you know, I, you know, we've gone through taking their phones away, we've gone through trying to restrict the content. It doesn't work. We're in a feral environment and you, and you can't walk with your kids through all of it. That's the danger. So there, these are the core arguments that are going to be put forth and hopefully succeed, which is that no, it's not about the individual videos they're looking at. It's about the way the platforms are structured deliberately and intentionally to create continuing, like you say, doom scrolling. Just hook the kid in, draw them into a false world, show them content that's wildly inappropriate with full knowledge by the platforms and kind of hook them into a culture and a way of life that is destructive and it's driving parents crazy and it's driving families apart. Like you say.
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B
Yeah.
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So destructive.
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B
It is destructive. Marley, thank you so much for being here this morning. We appreciate your insight.
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A
Yeah. Well, thank you, Brian. It's great to be on here.
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B
Yes, ma'.
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Am.
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B
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Well, I think that we get specifics. So, you know, we have things like you can look at the size of those tiles, determine what size shoe they wear in a lot of ways, I think you can start to determine how, how tall the person is. You see their gait that they have before they bend over and then just the intention. I mean, you can see how the individual wasn't just somebody who was walking up and stumbled upon the house. He was definitely targeting that house. So you can also get a feeling that the individual wanted to be there, but didn't know that the camera was there. So that tells you that they may be a little bit less familiar and not that bright. Bright enough. Smart enough to carry out this crime, but not smart enough to realize that there's a camera there and they're trying to cover it up with weeds, you know, so there's. There's some interesting facts that come out of this. We also know a definite time that the individual was there. And we see things like the fact that he was not in a hurry to get in and that now we know. When we look at the totality, we know that he was in there for about 41 minutes at the least. So it starts to lead down an avenue of other reasons why he was there.
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B
Okay, we got about a minute left. I'm sorry. We got to cut this segment a little short up against a hard break. You were telling me off air, and we don't have to get specific, but this footage was obtained by a separate company, not necessarily the company that has the recording device, Is that correct?
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H
Well, no. So I guess. Net Google owns Nest, I think is way this is. I may be wrong about that, but the FBI worked with Google to get this footage from a camera that belongs to a family that does not subscribe to their membership, where it records and holds the film footage. That means all these cameras are filming all the time.
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B
That was. That was another one of my takeaways when we were talking about this. This is incredible. Jonathan, we got. We got a balance. We certainly appreciate. We will have you back on perhaps later in the week to maybe review some more of the latest developments in this case. Jonathan, thank you so much.
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H
You got it.
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B
Thank you. All right. Certainly when that. When those images broke yesterday, that is what Carolyn Levitt led with in the briefing room. All right, thank you so much for joining us. As always, follow us on social media and we'll see you back here tomorrow, same time, same place. We call it the fastest news hour. You get the most news quicker, right? Delivered right to you. Until next time, Goodbye. God bless. We'll see you.
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