American Sunrise Early Edition - November 19th, 2025

Summary

Podcast Summary: Real America’s Voice – "American Sunrise Early Edition" (November 19, 2025)

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Episode Overview

This episode of "American Sunrise Early Edition," hosted by Jake Novak, delivers candid commentary on the latest national political flashpoints, economic anxiety, cultural battles, and public policy developments—framing these events within a populist, conservative outlook that prizes faith, freedom, and American values. Key themes include political unrest in North Carolina, controversies around immigration advocacy groups, media distrust of Congress in the Epstein files case, Gen Z’s housing struggles, America's economic paradox, and trends in consumer spending and markets.

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Table of Contents

1. Escalating Civil Unrest in North Carolina: “A New Civil War?”
2. Immigration, Activist Networks, and State Funding
3. CAIR & Foreign Funding: Governor Abbott’s Move
4. “Insurrection” Accusations: Politicians’ Message to the Military
5. Gen Z & The Housing Crisis
6. Market & Economy Watch: Inflation and Holiday Spending
7. Congress Votes to Release Epstein Files: Can They Be Trusted?
8. Notable Quotes
9. Timestamps Reference

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1. Escalating Civil Unrest in North Carolina: “A New Civil War?”

(03:36 - 06:14)

• Jake Novak introduces the notion of a "growing civil war" in America, zeroing in on unrest in North Carolina as “the Battle of North Carolina—our first Bull Run,” and labels the state the current flashpoint in battles against the federal government.
  • “This is statewide…with a lot of paid actors, and I am worried. I am really worried.” (05:39, Jake Novak)
• Former Green Beret / podcast guest Matt Tardeo agrees, emphasizing the government’s involvement down to the Governor's office and noting the Charlotte SWAT’s alleged assurances to independent journalists about avoiding cooperation with ICE during protests.

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2. Immigration, Activist Networks, and State Funding

(06:14 - 10:19)

• Key Discovery: Tardeo details investigative work tracing anti-ICE protesting groups to the Carolina Migrant Network (CMN), spearheaded by Stefania Ortega, who sits on the NC Governor’s Latino Affairs Council.

• Alleged Activities:

  • CMN operates WhatsApp groups with 12,000+ users to “dox” ICE agents’ locations.
  • CMN collects donations via ActBlue, and after Ortega’s appointment, secured a $50K government grant—escalating their revenue drastically within one year.

  “After Ms. Ortega…secured a $50,000 government funded grant…their revenue jumped from $140,000 (2022) to over $768,000 (2023).” (08:05, Matt Tardeo)

• Novak’s Commentary: Taxpayers are funding initiatives against their explicit political will, likening it to compelled funding for abortion.

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3. CAIR & Foreign Funding: Governor Abbott’s Move

(10:19 - 11:34)

• Gov. Abbott (Texas): Has designated CAIR (Council on American–Islamic Relations) as a terrorist group in Texas—targeting tax-exempt and allegedly Hamas-linked organizations.
  • “CAIR is sending $1,000 checks to students for anti-Semitic protests…Abbott says, ‘Fine, sue us. We’ll get discovery into all your funding sources.’” (09:56, Jake Novak)
• Tardeo: Notes that Abbott’s designation prevents CAIR from buying land/buildings in the state, referencing historical ties between CAIR and the Holy Land Foundation terrorism case.

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4. “Insurrection” Accusations: Politicians’ Message to the Military

(11:34 - 15:11)

• Democrat Politicians’ Video: Segment features a video in which Democrat-aligned officials urge active-duty military “to refuse illegal orders.”
  • Novak decries this as “a rallying cry for the new Confederacy,” paralleling it with 1860s secessionist maneuvers.
• Panel’s Reaction:
  • Orders have not been illegal; message is sowing “insurrection within the military.”
  • Contextualization of labor abuses in North Carolina (“forced labor” and human trafficking).
  • “If Trump had told the military to defect under Biden, it would be called an insurrection—this is no different.” (14:44, Matt Tardeo)
  • Novak: “The FBI should be raiding the homes of everyone who made that video.” (15:03, Jake Novak)

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5. Gen Z & The Housing Crisis

(19:35 - 22:24)

• Statistical Reality: Despite Gen Z making strong wage gains, housing costs (especially in major cities) far outpace their salaries, causing many to live with parents longer.
• Emily Finn (Gen Z Panelist): Advises moving to lower-cost cities and criticizes the “excuse” narrative; emphasizes budgeting and self-reliance.
• Novak Anecdote: Ridicules “enabling” of adult children by parents—“Does your wife still do their laundry?” as a test for independence.

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6. Market & Economy Watch: Inflation and Holiday Spending

(38:04 - 48:33)

• Inflation:

  • Mitch Rochelle (macroeconomist, M2 Communications) diagnoses persistent, cumulative inflation: food costs down year-over-year, but way up compared to pre-pandemic levels.
  • Blames lack of focus on expanding domestic supply for continued price pressure: “All we do is print money and increase demand.”

• Policy Solutions Discussion:

  • Jake Novak advocates increased deregulation and supply-side fixes at the state and federal level, including for housing and healthcare.

• Credit Card Debt Surge:

  • Despite polling anxiety about the economy, evidence shows Americans will likely spend robustly this holiday—a process labeled “retail therapy,” funded by record-high credit card debt.
  • “The more people worry about the economy…the more they spend.” (41:49, Mitch Rochelle)

• Nvidia & Markets:

  • With markets “treading water,” Nvidia dominates the tech sector—its post-earnings moves crucial for indexes like the S&P 500 and Nasdaq.

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7. Congress Votes to Release Epstein Files: Can They Be Trusted?

(49:12 - 53:18)

• Key Development: Nearly unanimous votes in House and Senate to release the Epstein files.
• Jake Novak’s Skepticism: Distrusts Congress’ competence—highlights embarrassing mistakes (e.g., Congressmembers mistaking unrelated Epstein names).
• David Brody: Calls out “shameful” political reversals, criticizing both Republican and Democrat leadership for inconsistency.
  • Notes Rep. Thomas Massie’s promise to name names on the House floor if DOJ withholds information—asserting the "truth will come out" via Congressional whistleblowers or direct leaks from victims.

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8. Notable Quotes

• “Welcome to America and our growing civil war… the Battle of North Carolina, our own Bull Run.” (03:36, Jake Novak)
• “Taxpayers are being forced to fund things that they don’t vote for and they vote actively against.” (09:01, Jake Novak)
• “Direct to Hamas via the Holy Land 5. They were listed as co-conspirators.” (10:19, Matt Tardeo)
• “This video is…like if they had a video of the Confederacy in 1860, 61 writing letters to generals who had graduated West Point.” (11:53, Jake Novak)
• “It’s an actual insurrection…where they’re sitting there telling our military members, hey, don’t follow these orders.” (14:15, Matt Tardeo)
• “If Trumpers told the military to defect…they’d call it an insurrection…” (14:44, Matt Tardeo)
• “Food inflation…is compounding, it’s nagging, and it really never goes away.” (38:04, Mitch Rochelle)
• “The more people worry about the economy…the more people worry about whether or not they're going to lose their job. As crazy as this sounds, they spend more.” (41:49, Mitch Rochelle)
• “I think what we need to do is get the president…to get 50 governors in a room…every state in this country needs to limit the amount of regulations…that preclude the creation of new housing.” (43:43, Mitch Rochelle)
• “Look, I want to find out everything about [Epstein]...but the last place I’d like to go for truth and justice is the U.S. Congress.” (50:24, Jake Novak)
• “If Trump’s DOJ doesn’t release the Epstein files, [Rep. Massie] will go to the floor and…read the names of Epstein’s alleged clients.” (52:31, David Brody)

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9. Timestamps Reference

• 03:36 – “Civil War” rhetoric and North Carolina unrest
• 06:14 – Immigration activism, Carolina Migrant Network exposé
• 09:01 – Taxpayer funding of controversial causes
• 10:19 – Gov. Abbott v. CAIR
• 11:34 – Politicians urge military insubordination
• 14:44 – Political “insurrection” double standards
• 19:35 – Gen Z housing segment
• 38:04 – Food inflation and compounding prices discussion
• 41:49 – Consumer spending, credit, and holiday predictions
• 43:43 – Deregulation as solution to supply/housing woes
• 46:49 – Nvidia and tech’s market dominance
• 49:12 – Epstein files, congressional competence, and transparency
• 52:31 – Rep. Massie’s threat to publicly name Epstein’s clients

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Conclusion

This episode provides a dense, fast-moving, and polemical tour through major controversies shaping American politics and everyday concerns as of late 2025. Host Jake Novak and his guests present a narrative of political, economic, and cultural crisis—characterized by distrust in institutions (especially Congress), suspicion of activist networks with state support, and an urgent call for deregulation and “supply side” solutions. The tone is urgent, combative, and unfiltered, frequently punctuated by analogies to historic American strife and warnings about the societal consequences of elite mismanagement. Gen Z’s economic struggles and consumer sentiment also receive pragmatic attention, while regular market updates underscore the uncertain intersection of real-life economics and public perception.

This summary captures the arguments, rhetorical style, and insights of the episode for listeners who want a substantive, timestamped guide to the show’s major segments and highlights.

Transcript

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Ahead on American Sunrise Early Edition, everyone but one member of the House votes to release the Epstein files, and the Senate did too. So now what? Well, there's more innuendo and accusations of conspiracy theories and a lot of stupid things being said. I want the truth about Epstein to come out too, but Congress is probably the last place to expect to get it. Meanwhile, even more of the American people say their biggest worry is the economy, especially nagging inflation. But what Americans tell the pollsters and what they do with their cash and credit cards are often two different things. And that could be the case this year. In an astounding new video, a number of Democrat politicians openly encourage active duty military in America to disobey orders. So it's come to this. There will surely be more open revolts against law and decency when Zoran Mamdani becomes mayor of New York City on New Year's Day. But border czar Tom Homan is preemptively warning the city that ice will be there to make sure more illegal aliens aren't unleashed onto what's left of the law abiding public. And were you snagged by that cloudfare outage yesterday? I sure was. And even if you weren't, this is the latest example of our fragile cyber world that should concern us all. American Sunrise EARLY EDITION begins now.

[Mitch Rochelle]

Welcome to American Sunrise EARLY Edition, the.

[Jake Novak]

Show where faith, freedom and the values that built this nation take center stage. Your good deeds and bad deeds, that's how we're going to judge you. Join host Jake Novak as he breaks down the stories that matter. We will be letting the public know regularly what we have found. American Sunrise EARLY EDITION with your host, Jake Novak starts now. This is day one of our one day since our last cloud fair outage here in America. Welcome to American Sunrise EARLY Edition. It's a Wednesday. I'm Jake Novak. At this time yesterday, things were crashing all over the place. So I'm grateful that that isn't the case this morning. Unfortunately, so many other parts of the country, things are not going well and they are very disturbing. So welcome to America and our growing civil war and what I am calling I should patent this or whatever they call it, copyrighted. Welcome to the Battle of North Carolina, because that is the state where we are having our first bonasses, if that's what you like to call it, our battle of Bull Run, if that's what you like to call it. And to help us get a handle on that and some of the other things going on in this country and the growing civil war on many fronts is former Green Beret, former law enforcement officer, and current podcaster Matt Tardeo. Matt, we started to scratch the surface of this last week, but we've really got to get into this more with you now. I again, I'm calling the situation in North Carolina the hottest flashpoint right now in the war on the federal government. Look at this. This is the video that triggered both you and me. I mean, this is like the Blair Witch Project, but with the sunshine. Look at these insane protesters, clearly mentally ill, but paid as you're about to tell us. But I want to get into that for a second. But to me, this is the flashpoint in the war against the federal government. The new Confederacy, the new Civil War, whatever you want to call it. I am very concerned because this is more than just a downtown Portland or that facility outside of Chicago. This is a statewide effort with a lot of paid actors, and I am worried. I am really worried.

[Matt Tardeo]

Yeah, I'm with you, Jake. And it goes all the way up to the government office or the governor's office. And I saw a video yesterday, even of a sergeant from the. I believe it was the Charlotte SWAT team that was talking with a independent journalist that was on the ground, and he was letting them know that, don't worry, it's just the Charlotte SWAT team that's out and about doing operations today. They're not affiliated with ice. They won't give ICE their vehicles. So all the illegals can, you know, rest and rest in a little bit of peace. And they don't have to be worried about going around the Charlotte police, you.

[Jake Novak]

Know, Charlotte and North Carolina. I was talking to Margaret Akis, who's a longtime North Carolina resident. People need to understand why North Carolina is being targeted. This isn't some kind of vendetta against Josh Stein, the governor there. North Carolina has long been a hub of illegal alien activity. One of the biggest reasons why is because there's all those meat packing and meat processing plants in North Carolina that are infamous for hiring illegal aliens for a really long time. It's not a new thing. It's like 30 years that they've been doing that. That's how it started. Smithfield Farm, places like that. But there's. Again, it gets. It is extended to a lot of other places. Now, Matt, you've been following the cash trail here. I know that you were inspired to do that when you saw that video that we just showed to the Blair witches in the woods. Tell us a little bit about that. Where the money's coming from, this and what you've been able to find out.

[Matt Tardeo]

Yeah, so I started looking into those videos, and one of the videos, a journalist got handed a. What I'm calling the rape whistle kits that stand out when, you know they're in that video running around and stalking the ICE agents and they're blowing the whistles to warn people that they're coming. Well, that had a phone number that was attached to it. That phone number comes from a group called Community Collectiva, and that falls under the 501c3 of the Carolina Migrant Network. Now the co founder of the Carolina Migrant Network, Stefano or Stefania Ortega, she's actually believe it or not on a government Latino Affairs Council for the governor office. And she's been there since 2023. They renamed it and she got reaffirmed this last year. Now that organization, the Carolina Migrant Network, the the scariest part about it is they, they do operate a WhatsApp channel with over 12, 000 users on it that that doxes the location of ICE agents. They also collect money via Act Blue. Act Blue acts as their money collection platform that that ends up then, you know, sending the money off to them. Now probably the scariest part about this was after Ms. Ortega ended up making her way up onto the Governor's Latina affair or Latino Affairs Council, they ended UP securing a $50,000 government funded grant from the state taxpayers of North Carolina. And that made its way in there through the iola, the North Carolina interest on lawyers trust accounts. They ended up getting that back in 2024. And why do they get that? Well, because they defend illegal immigrants. They revenue in 2022 of right around $140,000. And then in 2023, magically the same year she gets appointed to the Governor's council, she ends up you know, getting their revenue all the way up to over US$768,000. Jake?

[Jake Novak]

Yeah, you know this is, there's a theme here. Taxpayers are being forced to fund things that they don't vote for and they vote actively against. You know this is, you can say the same thing about abortion. Taxpayers are forced to fund it. Don't try to pretend it isn't true. The Hyde amendment is long gone in America and that is where we really the rubber really meets the road on these things. Now speaking of that, Governor Greg Abbott in Texas has just declared care, which is also one of these tax exempt organizations, so at least is indirectly getting incredible tax breaks allowing to grow tax free to do all the things that CARE has been doing. It's been the mouthpiece for Hamas and for other groups like that in this country for a long time. Their connection to Hamas was established in a case in Florida many years ago. But in addition to that, now we just learned that Kerr is sending $1,000 checks and has been sending $1,000 checks to a lot of the students who have been committing anti Semitic protests on campus. Now Greg Abbott is saying that he's going to designate them as a terrorist group in Texas. You know there's going to be a lot of lawsuits there I was interested in his response when Kerr threatened to sue. He said, great, sue. Now we're going to get discovery of all of your funding sources. If you sue, you might want to think twice because the last time they did that, that's exactly what happened. We found out that they were connected to Hamas. I know you like this move, Matt.

[Matt Tardeo]

Yeah, yeah. Directed to Hamas via the Holy Land 5. They were listed as co conspirators. In that case, it's. It's kind of an issue when you look at what's taking place over inside of Texas. And Abbott made that decision, I think for a very good reason, because now they're not allowed to buy land or own buildings over in the state of Texas.

[Jake Novak]

Yeah. I've had so many viewers and other people in Texas tell me about these growing compounds within the state. And I don't care if it's Muslim, if it's breakoff groups from the Mormons or what. To have a large major compound operating tax free, operating outside the law, no go zones like we see in Europe, that's a bad thing. This isn't a confederacy of different places. I know the Democrats want to create a new confederacy. They did that once before. They're good at that. But I don't want to see that. I have no problem with religious communities wanting to establish a church or a mosque or a community center, that's fine. But when they have these roped off compounds where the law doesn't have any jurisdiction, that's a huge problem. Now, speaking of laws, here's the coup de grace this morning, Matt. This astounding video posted yesterday by a number of elected Democrats and some people in the intel community who are Democrats. Clearly a rallying cry for the new Confederacy. Watch this.

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[Emily Finn]

And defend this Constitution.

[Matt Tardeo]

Right now the threats to our Constitution aren't just coming from abroad, but from.

[Jake Novak]

Right here at home. Our laws are clear. You can refuse illegal orders. I mean, is this like Jefferson Davis writing a letter to Robert E. Lee? We know you took an oath, but we need you down here in the south to defend slave owning people. I mean, this is incredible. This video is. It's like if they had a video of the Confederacy in 1860, 61 writing letters to generals who had graduated West Point, that's what this would look like. And Matt, the tell sign that they don't. Yeah, the telltale sign here is that they don't mention any specific order. They're basically saying, be insurrectionist first, question every order, be insubordinate first, and then get the details later. This is absolutely astounding.

[Matt Tardeo]

Yeah, it's because none of the orders given so far are illegal. And yeah, you, you can refuse illegal orders inside the United States military. As a matter of fact, you should. However, none of those orders are illegal. And when you brought up the South, Jake, I think you're absolutely accurate when you take a look over at North Carolina. And I mean, this is not something that's, that's hidden from the public either. There's, there's documentation on this about people that are being forced into labor. You know, when people think of human trafficking and they think of, you know, people getting caught and stolen and everything else but the, or prostitution. But the other thing that they're, they're failing to realize is that they're also funding through human trafficking, these forced labors that are taking place in some of these places where people are working for less than minimum wage.

[Jake Novak]

There this is running cover for criminal activity. And it's just incredible. And they've duped so many people. Although some people are also on the, on the, the take on this. You know, you talk about that illegal forced labor, a lot of the people who are benefiting from that illegal forced labor are the same companies that are donating to a lot of Democrat candidates and also Republicans over the years. This is why the Republican Party, before President Trump came along, dragged its feet on illegal immigration and things like that, because they had people like the Chamber of Commerce, Republicans, the hotel industry especially, donating a lot of money in favor of open border policies. The idea that it's compassionate to allow this to happen is just incredible. It's like looking at a mugging and saying, well, we've got to. The, Our first priority is making sure that mugger gets all of his rights. And we're being really nice to him and maybe we even shouldn't send him to jail after all. He just wanted to buy some drugs, you know, some, some pot. And that's okay. I mean, this is just incredible. But again, I have to take it a step further with the military here.

[Matt Tardeo]

I take it a step further and I'd say it's a, it's an actual insurrection. You know, it's an insurrection within the military where they're sitting there telling our, our, you know, military members, hey, don't follow these orders. And they're not going to list any specific ones. So it's an Encourage people to, to stand up and just whatever they feel is illegal or whatever is on social media. We've got the insurrection taking place over inside of Portland, Oregon, clearly inside of North Carolina. Look at Dearborn, Michigan. What's taking place over there. And everything is. I mean, now we can at least say that this insurrection is all the way up to the federal government.

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If you were to, if you were.

[Matt Tardeo]

To have Donald Trump or any of the, you know, Trumpers come out when Joe Biden was president, telling our military members to defect, you know, how would that go over? They called an insurrection. They've launched a federal investigation. Congress would be tied up for months, you know, wasting billions of taxpayer dollars to investigate a bunch of stuff that's not going anywhere. This, however, is.

[Jake Novak]

They should raid the homes. The FBI should be raiding the homes of everyone who made that video. I want to have their financial records checked. I want to see who's been paying them.

[Matt Tardeo]

That's right.

[Jake Novak]

Potentially say this stuff. Lots of work on here, Matt. We'll keep updating all of this and thank you for joining us again. This has been. What a morning, everyone. How's that going, everyone? It's, it's a way to wake up and I appreciate it. Have a great. Rest of you.

[Matt Tardeo]

Have a good one, Jake. Thanks, brother.

[Jake Novak]

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[Jake Novak]

It's a live look at Washington, dc. Welcome back to American Sunrise Early Edition Special. Welcome to all of you watching and commenting on the getter and rumble chats and X and substack. By the way everyone, I am a Southerner, born in the south, raised there until I got around high school time. For those of you wondering why I was making fun of Jefferson Davis, look, he was a lousy president. Let's be honest. And also folks, for those of you thinking that my gold comments are are off, this show actually began on December 17, 2024, not in April. So for those of you watching been watching that rise in gold every single day on this program. Hey. A new study shows that gen zers in America are actually doing pretty well when it comes to their salaries, especially in corporate America. They're doing better even when you adjust for inflation compared to the generations ahead of them. But as we bring in a real Gen Z or herself right now, our favorite Gen Z are on this program, Emily Finn. Here's the catch. Those increased salaries are not keeping up with the increased costs of housing. Now Emily, I know you have a 17 bedroom mansion but for your fellow gen zers, you know the situation with the housing costs, it's kind of got to be depressing because it's not just about not having a thing not having. It's also about a lot of people your age not being able to move out of their parents house which is infantilizing and frustrating. I know that.

[Emily Finn]

You know I must admit here Jake, I have had a really interesting experience with this. I started after college. I moved out to San Diego which was one of the most expensive places you could pick in the United States to live. Then I lived in Chicago which was just as expensive. And now I live in West Palm beach which is just as expensive. My biggest advice to young people is move out of your parents house and move somewhere like Little Rock, Arkansas. That was somewhere that I actually was about to move at one point a few years ago. The prices are better. You just have to really be more realistic about your expenses and about your budgeting and about how you're spending money because there are places that you can live that are much more affordable. And I do think the whole getting out of your parents house thing is such a lame excuse.

[Jake Novak]

Yeah, well I mean it's got it. People have to do it. I'll say one quick thing before we say goodbye. I'm sorry I had to be quick today, but I had a coworker when I was working at CNBC who used to get really angry when I talked about how kids not moving out of their homes are actually being enabled by their parents. And he just yelled at me. He said, oh, my kids have student loans and it's so expensive. And he. And I just said, I have one question for you, one question alone. Your kids are living in your house. They're in their 20s. Does your wife still do their laundry? And he stopped talking.

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That's how you know.

[Emily Finn]

That's how you know. That's how you know you gotta be on your own. You gotta be on your own.

[Jake Novak]

That's right. You've got to be on your own.

[Emily Finn]

I thank my mom for making me do my own laundry.

[Jake Novak]

That's right. That's right. And making your bed, too, probably. All right. Thank you so much, Emily. We'll see you in the 8 to 10am hour.

[Emily Finn]

Thank you, Jake.

[Jake Novak]

Hey. Between parties, travel, and holiday food, it's easy to fall off the health wagon this time of year. I know. I'm bracing for it. And usually during the holiday sales, we're chasing down deals on TVs and gadgets. But I actually have a really good time to tell you this right now. It's, this is the time to invest in your health and to save a ton doing it. Joining us now is the founder and CEO of Brickhouse Nutrition, Miles Grimard. Miles, most people wait until January with those New Year's resolutions to think about their health, but you're saying this is actually the best time to start. Why is that?

[Miles Grimard]

Yeah, I mean, everyone first, thanks for having me, but everyone's busy and they're, they're on the go, they're eating on the go. And health kind of takes a backseat. And then, and then come January, like, oh, I packed a few extra pounds on, so it's time to lose those. But, yeah, we think right now it's the perfect time to try to stay on track. So, yeah, it's for our Black Friday sale, which started now, is 30% off everything. It's our biggest sale of the year. And it kind of helped prevent you from, from packing those extra pounds before the January scaries.

[Jake Novak]

It's a preemptive strike, which is the best way to deal with military strikes and also with your health. Let's talk about your bestseller. You talk about you got some deals. The bestseller is called Lean L E A N. Why has it been so popular?

[Miles Grimard]

Yeah, that, that started blowing off the shelves very quickly because the, the weight loss injections, they became so, so popular so quickly. And our, our team of doctors, they wanted to create something that was, that was similar and worked in similar ways. But without the need for the injections or the prescriptions. Lean, just, just like the injections, it works in three main ways. It kind of regulates your blood sugar, it helps turn that, that fat you've already got there and the visceral fat into energy. And then it also helps control cravings and your appetite. So which is very helpful this time of year.

[Jake Novak]

Yeah, I like your counter marketing against all the injections. You know, I don't want to do a whole breakdown into that, but I love the fact that people are like you are offering an alternative to that, even as everyone I know seems to be on these injectables. I'm glad you've got an alternative. Now you also have a brand new product, product called creatine not creation creatine. Now this one is specifically for women, is that correct?

[Miles Grimard]

Yes, it is. I mean, for years the men have been enjoying the benefits of, of creatine. And the main one, you know, you see someone's active, oh, it must be on creatine. But there's a lot of other benefits to it for your brain, bone and especially it's actually women, a lot of studies show, get a lot more benefits than men do from creatine because they're actually a little bit more deficient. And so the, the doctors at Brick House Nutrition are team up with a. It's called creatone specifically for women and it helps tone the muscle. But they added other. It's a pure creatine combined with other patent ingredients that really help the, you know, the, the female audience get additional benefits for with whether it's the bone health, hormonal health, brain health. And it's one of those products that, yeah, men can take it too. But it's specifically designed for women to give them even additional benefit. And it helps tone the muscle a lot without, you know, crazy extra time in the gym. Yeah, it's a product that women should be taking as well. And this is one design for them.

[Jake Novak]

Yeah, I mean our bodies are different and it's great that you have different products because we are different. Of course. Field of greens. It's the one everyone knows about with your product. The one I first heard about and I heard it was part of an Auburn bio aging study. I know Auburn football isn't doing that well this year, but I think their study did pretty well with you. Tell us a little bit more about that.

[Miles Grimard]

Yeah, Alabama is the superior team this year in that state. But we're always trying to. There's so many fruit and vegetable products on the market. And we've always been trying to find a way to show that there's so much more science that went behind ours because our doctors each fruit and vegetable inside the field of greens. It was all medically selected for their study. Health benefits to help certain really all the vital organs, lung health or lung health, kidneys, everything skin. And so your biological age is determined by the health of those vital organs as well as your cells. And so we partnered with Auburn University to really put field of greens to the test to show that it does what it does, to show that it does what we say it does. And the results were amazing. And the study, the participants changed nothing. They kept the same diet, they would keep drinking and exercise more. All they did was add field of greens daily. And Auburn showed that field of greens does slow the body's aging. Their biological ages were younger and which means their cells were younger. So, you know, it's a perfect gift for anyone who wants to get some extra active years out of life. It's, you know, it's not all about the chronological time on earth, but how much time, you know, you can actually be active. And so field of greens is now clinically proven to do that, which is very exciting.

[Jake Novak]

Use it or lose it. And I love this preemptive strike against the holiday, bad health habits and bad eating and all that kind of stuff. Miles Gamar, thank you so much for joining us. Brickhousesale.com you get 30% off everything anyway, you're going to have a great holiday season. But thank you for giving us an opportunity to do that too. Thank you.

[Miles Grimard]

Thank you so much. Yes. Biggest sale of the year. Brickhousesale.com thank you for having me.

[Jake Novak]

Fantastic. And join us again. Coming up, Honda is taking a big gamble on the new version of the Honda Prelude as you see here. Would you pay more for this than a BMW? More on that story when American Sunrise early edition. She comes right back.

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[Jake Novak]

It's a live look at Kansas City, Missouri this morning and sun hasn't risen yet there in Kansas City. Let's take a look at the markets to see if the sun's going to rise on what's been a down market for the last several days now. And it looks like we'll have stronger opens. But as you can, I want to tell you we're really going to be potentially treading water all day because Nvidia, the Nvidia market. Nvidia dominates this market. They're coming out with their earnings report after the closing bell today so a lot of investors won't want to be taking too many big bets. Let's take a look at bitcoin. It's been in the News well below 100,000 the last few days and there it is still at $91,000 at for Bitcoin. So there you have it. Hey ladies and gentlemen, start your engines. This is Moving America. Sponsored by artillery t company artilleryteaco.com use promo code RAV for 10% off your order. ArtilleryTea is all natural whole leaf. The tea bags are chemical free and each teabag can be used twice. Artillery Tea Company is family and veteran owned and operated and a portion of your purchase goes to help veteran and first Responder charities. ArtilleryTea code.com promo code RAV for 10% off your order. What a great business lesson. If all of you folks want to send your kids to school of management or business school, what a great business lesson I want you to pay attention to from the CEO of Toyota and he has it for all of us, especially you business owners as well. Kohi Sato is explaining why Toyota went so heavily into those non plug in hybrids where Toyota dominates the market when everyone else was going into EVs. Here's his radical policy that led to that. Are you listening? The radical policy was they listened. Toyota has a special communications network set up with all of its dealers and with its customers. Its customers that for the most part didn't want plug in EVs. Some of them did, but not many. And so Toyota, well ahead of everyone else now doing this, really invested extra money in non plug in hybrid cars where they are killing it in the market. And they have a huge head start on everyone else suddenly realizing this. Listen to your customers. Stop telling your customers what they want. Listen to them and there and learn from it and learn from the dealers. I can't tell you how many times I've spoken to car dealers, car salespeople who tell me they wish the company, the headquarters, listened to what they're hearing from the buyers. Well, Toyota does a better job of that and that's why they are ahead in this crucial part of the market. All right, let's let the best man, or should I say the less the best lack of a man, win. This is about driverless cars. Zoox has begun allowing select San Francisco users to hail driverless vehicles and cabs in San Francisco, pitting them against Amazon owned Robo Taxi service. That's. Sorry, that's. Amazon owns Zoox, so they're going up against Alphabet's owned Waymo. I'm sorry, these crazy names are really messing me up. This morning it's Zooks versus Waymo. I mean honestly, I'd rather watch a Jaguars Texans game. And those two teams to me are still not really in the NFL. Sorry guys. But anyway, Waymo versus Zooks. The battle is on in San Francisco and let the best driverless car win. We'll be watching to see how that turns out. Hey, Honda is taking a very big gamble right now as we speak on the new, upcoming new version of the sporty Prelude. There, you see it. That's always been their sporty car. It's kind of a sedan, it's kind of a dad car, but it's also a sports car. You know the Honda Prelude? Well, they're actually adding extra power to it, and it really looks like it's going to be a snazzy car. Here's the thing. We don't know how much they're going to charge for it here in the United States, but we know that in Great Britain they already have published the price and it's going to be about $52,000, which means British shoppers interested in getting one of these things are now going to have to pay more than a BMW, a basic, but still a BMW 2 Series. I don't know how that's going to fly in the United States. They might want to think about pricing it lower here, folks. Again, I think Honda makes great cars and this Prelude looks good to me, but I don't know if people are going to spend more for that than a BMW. Just my two cents, Okay? I don't know if the crook in this next story I'm going to tell you about deserves a medal for being a genius or for being stupidity. This definitely deserves a medal for one or the other. But Delaware police nabbed a man just a few days ago. He's in his 30s now. At first, he's smart. He ingeniously used a sewer hatch, the door on a sewer hatch, to break into a number of state offices. He got right in that way, broke the windows. He was fine. But while he was there, he stole some cash. He also stole a number, and not more than one, for as you're seeing right here, Ford Mustang EV, Mach E, EVs. He stole a couple because I guess the state in Delaware uses them as official vehicles. Here's the problem. He was smart about doing all that and finding the keys and the whole thing. What he wasn't smart about is that state offices use a lot of surveillance cameras. So do a lot of private businesses, but especially in state offices. So they found him real quick. They got the cars back. Remember, folks, surveillance cameras, they'll get you every time. Coming up, is this what I would call the Shakira of the economy, the one where Americans lips say one thing but their hips? I mean, their credit cards and their cash say something else? I will explain when AMERICAN Sunrise EARLY EDITION comes right back. Foreign. It's Wednesday, November 19th. Here are today's top stories. Everyone but one member of Congress votes to release the Epstein files. So now what? Well, we're going to get more innuendo, we're going to get more accusations, we're going to get more conspiracy theories, and we're also going to get members of Congress mistaking the badge every Epstein with some poor Dr. Jeffrey Epstein in New York. That's this real incredible smart we're getting from Congress. I want to find out about Epstein, too. Congress isn't the place to go. Hey. Meanwhile, even more of the American people say their biggest worry is the economy, especially nagging inflation. Okay, I'll buy that. But what Americans tell the pollsters and what they do with their cash and credit cards are often two different things. And that could be the case this year. There will surely be more open revolts against the law and decency when Zoran Mamdani becomes mayor of New York City on New Year's Day. By the way, happy New Year. But border czar Tom Homan is preemptively warning that the city will be flooded with ICE agents if they try to get illegal aliens unleashed onto the city on what's left of the law abiding citizenry. And in an astounding new video, a number of Democrat politicians openly encourage active duty military in America to disobey orders. You know, the last time people did this, 600,000Americans died in the Civil War. This isn't a good track record, folks. American Sunrise EARLY EDITION continues now. Welcome, everyone. It's a Wednesday here in American Sunrise EARLY edition. Yeah, I'm sorry if I wasn't a fan of the first Civil War, folks. 600,000 people died. That really wasn't a good result. Just, you know, spoiler alert, I don't want to see another one. But what's going on in North Carolina right now? What's going on with these Democrats? Encouraging active duty military to disobey orders sounds eerily like asking Robert E. Lee to resign his commission in the Union Army. And that, you know, we know how that ended up, by the way. Not good. But let's talk about the economy right now because according to all the polls, that's the most important thing to the American people. And that, you know, makes most sense. But when you try to talk about it, sometimes people fall asleep. We're going to make sure you don't do that right now because joining us now for the first time on this program is the great macro economist and the CEO of M2 Communications, Mitch Rochelle. Hey, Mitch. Thanksgiving week is coming. It's next week. We're getting there. People are really focusing on inflation, especially the costs at the grocery store. I want to get your take overall on the economy and specifically food inflation right now.

[Mitch Rochelle]

Well, Jake, good to see you and great to be with you for the first time, you know, food Inflation. There's two ways you can look at it. You can look at it year over year and say, wow, food inflation. It costs $140 for 10 people at my house for Thanksgiving. That's down from 142 last year. But what no one focuses on is, no, that's up from $100 in 2020. And that's the problem with inflation that everybody feels, which is it's compounding, it's nagging, and it really never goes away. The only thing that politicians really do is crow about the fact that the rate of inflation is slowing. But what we need to do in this country is make more stuff so that we can have more supply of stuff. And money will chase a greater amount of supply and prices will actually come down, which should be the real goal.

[Jake Novak]

Wait a minute, Mitch. Are you telling me the thing that I learned in fifth grade was true? That the only way to talk about prices of things is in terms of supply and demand? Get out of here. Yeah, I know. I mean, it's just incredible to me how people can talk about, well, I'll have this government program or that government program. There's only two ways to lower the price of an item to decrease demand. And I got news for you. People are always going to want food, so good luck with that one. Or you can increase supply, improve supply chains. Get rid of the regulations that strangle our supply. And that goes for food, it goes for housing, it goes for health care. I mean, if I hear one more person talking about health insurance costs, you know, you can have the best insurance card in the world. If there's no doctor or hospital to treat you, it's worth nothing. And the same thing is true with food, correct? I mean, we have to get our supplies higher or tell people to skip a meal every couple of days. Good luck with that.

[Mitch Rochelle]

No, and what we do every time, I don't care if it's Republican or Democrat, just look at the. Whether they were natural or fake economic disasters. And I'm calling Covid a fake one because it was not for real reasons. Okay, but whenever we have an economic tragedy, what does the government do? They print more money. They stimulate demand. They do nothing to fix supply. So I would argue, Jake, we could go back almost to the Reagan administration or when Reagan left office and say, we haven't meaningfully fixed the supply problem in this country. All we've done to drag down costs is try to make stuff far, you know, in China, in Vietnam, in Central America, in Mexico. That doesn't fix the supply problem. That just lowers the cost of the supply temporarily. So you and I are in violent agreement here. We've got to figure out a way to create more stuff ourselves and create more supply.

[Jake Novak]

Yeah, the only thing we have more supply of in this country is sports betting. I feel like that's all I ever hear. All right, Mitch. What we as consumers say to the pollsters and what we actually do are two very different things. Now there's a report out from America's retailers. The people who really have to bet on this stuff, stock their shelves properly, et cetera. They are already seeing signs of and predicting a very big surge in Christmas spending. Christmas season spending. I think they're right. Now, we just had Target come out saying that they're not looking so good. But that's not a question of all the consumers. That's just people going to other stores, specifically Walmart. By the way, they're really. Walmart's been eating Target's lunch lately. I think the same thing is going to happen. I think we're going to have more spending than people are telling the pollsters they're planning on doing. And I think this is going to be a pretty robust overall for the, you know, they're going to be some winners and losers, but I think this is going to be a good Christmas season. That's my prediction.

[Mitch Rochelle]

No, and National Retail Federation is saying the same thing. The, the, the problem with all of that and, Jake, this is all retail therapy. The more people worry about the economy, the more people worry about whether or not they're going to lose their job. As crazy as this sounds, they spend more. And how are they spending more on credit cards? And the thing that really worries me most about our economy is debt, whether it be our national debt, whether it be student debt, but really regular old retail credit cards. The percentage of GDP that is borrowed in this country by the consumer in the form of credit cards is staggering. And so I'm not surprised at all. You know, Disney can keep raising the price of going to the theme park to, you know, $10,000 for a family. People throw it on their credit card and worry about it in the future.

[Jake Novak]

Mitch, it definitely seems like the White House is trying to really focus on this. No one can say that the Trump administration isn't in tune with this. You know, you might take some issue with what they're trying to do to fix it, but we've had the President of the United States rescind or cut some of the tariffs to try to get some of the food prices down. They are working on many ideas about getting housing prices down. Again, you and I and people who are, you know, who are really involved in these kinds of things can take issue with some of the policies. But, you know, I guess in politics it's more, it's the old Bill Clinton line. I feel your pain. You know, if you have a president and an administration that admits that, hey, people are still dealing with high costs and yes, it is mostly the Biden administration's fault, but they're still not, they're not using that as an excuse. They're just reminding people of that. I like the fact that the administration is trying. How about you? I mean, do you like some of the things they're trying to do or do you think they should try some other policies?

[Mitch Rochelle]

Well, compound question. Yes, they should try other policies, but I also like what they're trying to do. And it goes back to what you and I were talking about earlier. These are all supply side solutions as opposed to what Democrats typically do is demand side solutions. Okay. We're not subsidizing people buying homes, which only drives up the prices of homes. We're trying to create more supply, whether it be a 50 year mortgage. Not a fan of it. Whether it be the portability and assumability of mortgages, I'm actually a fan of that. And if we get into the weeds, I think the push to deregulate is probably the biggest thing what I would do, and I've been saying it on a lot of networks, so I'll say it here. I may have to drive down, drive up I95 and drop in Mar a Lago and tell them this. But I think what we need to do is get the president, unlike January 3, to get 50 governors in a room in Washington, D.C. and say we have an affordability problem in this country as it relates to housing. And the cleanest way to fix that problem is to deregulate. And everyone state, every state in this country needs to limit the amount of regulations that preclude the creation of new housing. It's going to lower the price of new housing and it's going to pave a way for their, for us to create more housing. And I'm not talking about big home builders coming in and buying tracts of land. I'm talking about entrepreneurial home builders who buy one lot, build one home, sell that home, buy another lot, build another home. That's really the way that homes get built in America.

[Jake Novak]

Yeah. And President Trump can shame those governors into doing that by allowing the building of again. And I Love that you talk about individual home builders doing this and not huge construction conglomerates or whatever because, you know, there's a lot of federal land in this country. It's not all Anwar or someplace out in Wyoming. Everywhere across, for example, the Eisenhower highway system. And there are some parts of this country where it's desirable to live near the main highways. You know, people who, for example, in Manhattan live along the west side Highway. That's federal land, folks. And I can get individual investors to want to build one apartment building or even some houses on there without any of your state regulations. And look how well they do. And they won't be donating to your party, Mr. Governor. And that might work. That, that pitch might work. I like that idea. Meanwhile, Mitch, we've been in a sell off in the markets the last few days. Viewers of this program know that I have nothing against companies like Nvidia. Wonderful company, great. But what I don't like is when the markets are so pushed by one company alone. Nvidia just the last five days is down 6%. And so the NASDAQ's down about the same exact amount. And the S&P 500, which is supposed to be this big broader market, is down about 4% because of Nvidia. I don't like when one company tilts the market so much. And of course everyone's on Tinderhooks because Nvidia is going to be announcing their earnings, their money report card at the end of trading today. Talk about supply. I like a supply of more companies that move the markets. That's, that's my plea.

[Mitch Rochelle]

Yeah, no, we all do. And you know, what happens is Nvidia has become this bellwether for the broader AI sector. If we go back to the dot com bubble that burst, anything that had.com in it got money thrown at it. And there wasn't one bellwether. I guess Google perhaps was. Yahoo was at the time. You know, one name that you barely hear and one name that's changed its name. But Nvidia really is the bellwether for the entire AI sector. And it's not just the report card in terms of the last quarter's earnings. It's what management says about the outlook for the future. And there's also a geopolitical story buried in there in terms of whether or not China is playing ball and allowing Nvidia chips to be used in China. So the market's really been for the last week in this big wait and see mode and we'll see what the earnings are my guess is the earnings will be phenomenal. That doesn't necessarily mean that the market's going to take off again like a rocket ship, because what happens is the expectations get. You made a sports betting metaphor before, and what I'll say is, you know, Nvidia may win, but they may not cover the spread and we'll see what happens with the earnings today.

[Jake Novak]

Yeah, that's a great way to put it, but I just, I'm so sorry for the tightrope that this administration has to walk. We want to save our intellectual property. We want to save our national security. At the same time, if we cut off the sales of our big companies like this, we're going to hurt the markets. It's really a tough situation, but at some point, America has to not be for sale. Mitch Rochelle, thank you so much for joining us. Have a great rest of your week.

[Mitch Rochelle]

You, too.

[Jake Novak]

All right, coming up, where are we now when it comes to the Epstein Spiles case? David Brody and I will discuss when AMERICAN SUNRISE EARLY EDITION comes right back. That's the bridge to Cincinnati this morning here on American SUNRISE EARLY EDITION on this Wednesday. We've got it. Remember, the next time we show a bridge as a bump shot to get that song, the Bridge by Led Zeppelin. That's my. That's my. We'll get some music requests in here.

[Miles Grimard]

In the next few days.

[Jake Novak]

Welcome back again, It's a Wednesday here in American Sunrise EARLY edition. I'm Jake Novak, having a very, very spirited day with the folks on the getter and the rumble chats this morning. Don't worry, I can take it. You can hit me really hard. Yes, I did say I don't really feel like the Jaguars and the Texans are real NFL teams, but that doesn't mean I don't really like a lot of the players on the Jaguars. I really do. There's just something about that helmet and that uniform that just doesn't work for me. I don't know. I guess I'm old school. Speaking of old school, David Brody, the House and the Senate voting almost unanimously yesterday to release the Epstein files. Look, look, I want to find out everything about this monster just like anybody else. Here's my problem. I don't trust Congress to do it for me. We already know there's going to be all kinds of innuendo, conspiracy theories, and then the coup de grace yesterday as you had the great genius of our time, the erudite Representative Jasmine Crockett, going on on the House floor yelling about how Lee Zeldin the EPA director and former congressman took money from Dr. Jeffrey Epstein and that just. It was another guy. It was a doctor, and probably some poor schmoe who's a chiropractor who gave him 50 bucks or something. I mean, I feel there's a lot of Jeffrey Epstein's. I think I went to school with about 20 of them. I mean, honestly, these are not the great geniuses and the moral beacons of our time to be handling this case. I'm not trying to make light of the Epstein thing. It's a very serious thing. The last place I'd like to go for truth and justice is the U.S. congress.

[David Brody]

Yeah, 100%. I mean, here's what you don't hear at dinner. Conversations across the country. Hey, you know what? I need some moral clarity. Let me check in with Jasmine Crockett, okay? Has that ever been said at one dinner conversation, let alone breakfast or lunch conversation in America? Look, can I. Can I just say on a quick separate note. Well, it's not a separate note. Separate, related. On Epstein. Okay, Let me just say that this reversal on Epstein by the Republicans is shameful. I mean, can we just admit it? Can we just have transparency and call what it is? I mean, you know, it's like the jets are in last place, and then I wake up the next morning and they're in first place. It's the biggest reversal since like, something like that. How did it go from Trump and Johnson and everybody didn't want to have touch this discharge petition, and then it was 421 to 1 and then unanimous consent in the Senate. Seriously, Jake? I mean, can we call that out? Can we just call that out? I don't know. I feel like as conservatives, we need to do more calling stuff out, which we do from time to time, but I feel like we need to do it even more. And this is a great example of it. But look, in terms of Congress and more clarity, you have Massie, and don't get me started on Tom Massie in terms of railroading the Republican agenda. Okay, so I'm putting that aside for a second. But he does say that if the DOJ doesn't release some of these names or it's a bunch of redacted mumbo jumbo, he's going to go to the House floor and start reading the names of those that are involved in the Epstein list. Actually, let me. I just want to make sure I have that right. He actually says, let me just tell you. Hang on.

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[David Brody]

I'm doing some real time. Real time. What do you call it?

[Miles Grimard]

Research.

[David Brody]

Here, this is what he's. Sorry, can you believe I'm doing this live on the air? But let me just say he actually says.

[Matt Tardeo]

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[David Brody]

That he will go to the. Here it is. If Trump's DOJ doesn't release the Epstein files, he will go to the floor and would. Absolutely. That's the quote. Absolutely. Read the names of Epstein's alleged clients. So look, this is coming out. You know, Pam Bondi and the DOJ and anybody else in the Alphabet soup of Washington can hide it all they want, but Massie's got the names because he knows the victims of, you know, in terms of the press conferences and he's gotten to know the victims and Marjorie Taylor Greene has said the same thing and they. The clients, or excuse me, the clients, the victims will actually give the names to Massie and mtg. So here's my point, Jake. It's coming out. It's coming out. One way or another, these names are coming out.

[Jake Novak]

Yeah. And it'll be in the hands of the great geniuses of Congress.

[David Brody]

Yeah.

[Jake Novak]

My goodness. Honestly, this could have been done so much better. Obviously. But look, we're going to get things all this cleared up. The next two hours you have American Sunrise, the big show. I'll be joining you a little before 9:30. Early edition comes back tomorrow at 7. Be here.

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