Podcast Summary: Real America’s Voice – "American Sunrise Early Edition" (November 19, 2025)

Episode Overview

This episode of "American Sunrise Early Edition," hosted by Jake Novak, delivers candid commentary on the latest national political flashpoints, economic anxiety, cultural battles, and public policy developments—framing these events within a populist, conservative outlook that prizes faith, freedom, and American values. Key themes include political unrest in North Carolina, controversies around immigration advocacy groups, media distrust of Congress in the Epstein files case, Gen Z’s housing struggles, America's economic paradox, and trends in consumer spending and markets.

Table of Contents

1. Escalating Civil Unrest in North Carolina: “A New Civil War?”
2. Immigration, Activist Networks, and State Funding
3. CAIR & Foreign Funding: Governor Abbott’s Move
4. “Insurrection” Accusations: Politicians’ Message to the Military
5. Gen Z & The Housing Crisis
6. Market & Economy Watch: Inflation and Holiday Spending
7. Congress Votes to Release Epstein Files: Can They Be Trusted?
8. Notable Quotes
9. Timestamps Reference

1. Escalating Civil Unrest in North Carolina: “A New Civil War?”

(03:36 - 06:14)

• Jake Novak introduces the notion of a "growing civil war" in America, zeroing in on unrest in North Carolina as “the Battle of North Carolina—our first Bull Run,” and labels the state the current flashpoint in battles against the federal government.
  • “This is statewide…with a lot of paid actors, and I am worried. I am really worried.” (05:39, Jake Novak)
• Former Green Beret / podcast guest Matt Tardeo agrees, emphasizing the government’s involvement down to the Governor's office and noting the Charlotte SWAT’s alleged assurances to independent journalists about avoiding cooperation with ICE during protests.

2. Immigration, Activist Networks, and State Funding

(06:14 - 10:19)

• Key Discovery: Tardeo details investigative work tracing anti-ICE protesting groups to the Carolina Migrant Network (CMN), spearheaded by Stefania Ortega, who sits on the NC Governor’s Latino Affairs Council.

• Alleged Activities:

  • CMN operates WhatsApp groups with 12,000+ users to “dox” ICE agents’ locations.
  • CMN collects donations via ActBlue, and after Ortega’s appointment, secured a $50K government grant—escalating their revenue drastically within one year.

  “After Ms. Ortega…secured a $50,000 government funded grant…their revenue jumped from $140,000 (2022) to over $768,000 (2023).” (08:05, Matt Tardeo)

• Novak’s Commentary: Taxpayers are funding initiatives against their explicit political will, likening it to compelled funding for abortion.

3. CAIR & Foreign Funding: Governor Abbott’s Move

(10:19 - 11:34)

• Gov. Abbott (Texas): Has designated CAIR (Council on American–Islamic Relations) as a terrorist group in Texas—targeting tax-exempt and allegedly Hamas-linked organizations.
  • “CAIR is sending $1,000 checks to students for anti-Semitic protests…Abbott says, ‘Fine, sue us. We’ll get discovery into all your funding sources.’” (09:56, Jake Novak)
• Tardeo: Notes that Abbott’s designation prevents CAIR from buying land/buildings in the state, referencing historical ties between CAIR and the Holy Land Foundation terrorism case.

4. “Insurrection” Accusations: Politicians’ Message to the Military

(11:34 - 15:11)

• Democrat Politicians’ Video: Segment features a video in which Democrat-aligned officials urge active-duty military “to refuse illegal orders.”
  • Novak decries this as “a rallying cry for the new Confederacy,” paralleling it with 1860s secessionist maneuvers.
• Panel’s Reaction:
  • Orders have not been illegal; message is sowing “insurrection within the military.”
  • Contextualization of labor abuses in North Carolina (“forced labor” and human trafficking).
  • “If Trump had told the military to defect under Biden, it would be called an insurrection—this is no different.” (14:44, Matt Tardeo)
  • Novak: “The FBI should be raiding the homes of everyone who made that video.” (15:03, Jake Novak)

5. Gen Z & The Housing Crisis

(19:35 - 22:24)

• Statistical Reality: Despite Gen Z making strong wage gains, housing costs (especially in major cities) far outpace their salaries, causing many to live with parents longer.
• Emily Finn (Gen Z Panelist): Advises moving to lower-cost cities and criticizes the “excuse” narrative; emphasizes budgeting and self-reliance.
• Novak Anecdote: Ridicules “enabling” of adult children by parents—“Does your wife still do their laundry?” as a test for independence.

6. Market & Economy Watch: Inflation and Holiday Spending

(38:04 - 48:33)

• Inflation:

  • Mitch Rochelle (macroeconomist, M2 Communications) diagnoses persistent, cumulative inflation: food costs down year-over-year, but way up compared to pre-pandemic levels.
  • Blames lack of focus on expanding domestic supply for continued price pressure: “All we do is print money and increase demand.”

• Policy Solutions Discussion:

  • Jake Novak advocates increased deregulation and supply-side fixes at the state and federal level, including for housing and healthcare.

• Credit Card Debt Surge:

  • Despite polling anxiety about the economy, evidence shows Americans will likely spend robustly this holiday—a process labeled “retail therapy,” funded by record-high credit card debt.
  • “The more people worry about the economy…the more they spend.” (41:49, Mitch Rochelle)

• Nvidia & Markets:

  • With markets “treading water,” Nvidia dominates the tech sector—its post-earnings moves crucial for indexes like the S&P 500 and Nasdaq.

7. Congress Votes to Release Epstein Files: Can They Be Trusted?

(49:12 - 53:18)

• Key Development: Nearly unanimous votes in House and Senate to release the Epstein files.
• Jake Novak’s Skepticism: Distrusts Congress’ competence—highlights embarrassing mistakes (e.g., Congressmembers mistaking unrelated Epstein names).
• David Brody: Calls out “shameful” political reversals, criticizing both Republican and Democrat leadership for inconsistency.
  • Notes Rep. Thomas Massie’s promise to name names on the House floor if DOJ withholds information—asserting the "truth will come out" via Congressional whistleblowers or direct leaks from victims.

8. Notable Quotes

• “Welcome to America and our growing civil war… the Battle of North Carolina, our own Bull Run.” (03:36, Jake Novak)
• “Taxpayers are being forced to fund things that they don’t vote for and they vote actively against.” (09:01, Jake Novak)
• “Direct to Hamas via the Holy Land 5. They were listed as co-conspirators.” (10:19, Matt Tardeo)
• “This video is…like if they had a video of the Confederacy in 1860, 61 writing letters to generals who had graduated West Point.” (11:53, Jake Novak)
• “It’s an actual insurrection…where they’re sitting there telling our military members, hey, don’t follow these orders.” (14:15, Matt Tardeo)
• “If Trumpers told the military to defect…they’d call it an insurrection…” (14:44, Matt Tardeo)
• “Food inflation…is compounding, it’s nagging, and it really never goes away.” (38:04, Mitch Rochelle)
• “The more people worry about the economy…the more people worry about whether or not they're going to lose their job. As crazy as this sounds, they spend more.” (41:49, Mitch Rochelle)
• “I think what we need to do is get the president…to get 50 governors in a room…every state in this country needs to limit the amount of regulations…that preclude the creation of new housing.” (43:43, Mitch Rochelle)
• “Look, I want to find out everything about [Epstein]...but the last place I’d like to go for truth and justice is the U.S. Congress.” (50:24, Jake Novak)
• “If Trump’s DOJ doesn’t release the Epstein files, [Rep. Massie] will go to the floor and…read the names of Epstein’s alleged clients.” (52:31, David Brody)

9. Timestamps Reference

• 03:36 – “Civil War” rhetoric and North Carolina unrest
• 06:14 – Immigration activism, Carolina Migrant Network exposé
• 09:01 – Taxpayer funding of controversial causes
• 10:19 – Gov. Abbott v. CAIR
• 11:34 – Politicians urge military insubordination
• 14:44 – Political “insurrection” double standards
• 19:35 – Gen Z housing segment
• 38:04 – Food inflation and compounding prices discussion
• 41:49 – Consumer spending, credit, and holiday predictions
• 43:43 – Deregulation as solution to supply/housing woes
• 46:49 – Nvidia and tech’s market dominance
• 49:12 – Epstein files, congressional competence, and transparency
• 52:31 – Rep. Massie’s threat to publicly name Epstein’s clients

Conclusion

This episode provides a dense, fast-moving, and polemical tour through major controversies shaping American politics and everyday concerns as of late 2025. Host Jake Novak and his guests present a narrative of political, economic, and cultural crisis—characterized by distrust in institutions (especially Congress), suspicion of activist networks with state support, and an urgent call for deregulation and “supply side” solutions. The tone is urgent, combative, and unfiltered, frequently punctuated by analogies to historic American strife and warnings about the societal consequences of elite mismanagement. Gen Z’s economic struggles and consumer sentiment also receive pragmatic attention, while regular market updates underscore the uncertain intersection of real-life economics and public perception.

This summary captures the arguments, rhetorical style, and insights of the episode for listeners who want a substantive, timestamped guide to the show’s major segments and highlights.