Podcast Summary: Real America’s Voice – American Sunrise Early Edition

Episode: November 20, 2025

Host: Jake Novak

Key Guests: Lt. Col. Larry Brock, Emily Finn, Alvin Louie, David Brody

Overview

This episode of American Sunrise Early Edition delivers a mix of sharp political commentary and culture war analysis, exploring breaking news on the Russia/Ukraine conflict, congressional controversies, campus activism, and economic trends—all through the lens of American values and skepticism toward mainstream narratives. Host Jake Novak hosts candid conversations with regular contributors and experts, maintaining a brisk, sometimes irreverent tone, and blending humor with deeply critical takes on recent events in US politics, foreign affairs, and the ongoing culture wars.

Key Segments & Insights

1. Trump’s Proposed Ukraine Peace Plan

Guest: Lt. Col. Larry Brock (Ret., Candidate for Texas Legislature)
Timestamps: 04:41–07:34

• Novak and Brock discuss reports that Donald Trump is ready to present a peace proposal to Ukrainian President Zelensky.
  • Plan purportedly requires Ukraine to accept Russian territorial gains (Crimea & Donbas) and slash its military.
  • Brock calls this “political reality” and says, “Ukraine does not have the power to get it back. There will be no reversal without NATO intervention, and nobody wants that.” (06:38)
  • Brock criticizes Zelensky as an obstacle to peace, saying power motivates him to prolong the war: “If Zelensky was smart, he would absolutely take President Trump up on this, but I don’t think he will because he loses power as soon as this war is over.” (07:28)
• Novak laments media inconsistency, suggesting coverage is only “when it makes Trump look bad.”

2. Alleged Congressional ‘Insurrection’ and the Military

Timestamps: 07:34–10:32

• Novak references a viral video of Democratic lawmakers urging military “insubordination,” framing it as undermining the chain of command and likening it to pre-October 7th unrest in Israel.
  • Brock insists, “It is a federal crime… they need to be held accountable. I despair because I don’t believe Pam Bondi will actually bring them to justice.” (09:31)
  • Names Senator Mark Kelly, a retired officer, as having “a higher responsibility to obey orders and understand the Uniform Code of Military Justice.”
  • Suggests insubordination makes America vulnerable to attacks.

3. Texas Updates: Islamist Groups & Redistricting Battles

Timestamps: 10:32–15:35

A. Governor Abbott’s Move Against CAIR

• Discusses Texas’ labeling of CAIR as a terrorist organization.
  • Brock: “I do not want Islam to flourish inside my state. And we have to start dealing with it as an existential threat that it is.” (12:19)
• Novak equates concerns over “roped off compounds” (Muslim and break-off Mormon groups), emphasizing law should apply equally.

B. Federal Court Redistricting Ruling

• Federal court declared GOP-drawn Texas redistricting unlawful.
  • Brock: “This could absolutely delay the midterms… Entire districts are drawn out of existence.” (14:10)
  • Criticizes judges for “judicial tyranny” and reliance on racial gerrymandering criteria.
  • Expresses hope for quick Supreme Court review.

Novak warns: “What if… after the midterms we have dueling groups of congressional delegations going to Washington? That is an absolute prescription for secession…” (15:35)

4. Capitol ‘Buffoonery’: The Epstein Files & Political Scandal

Guest: Emily Finn
Timestamps: 19:46–24:54

• Segment targets “absolute buffoonery” in Congress around the new Epstein files.
  • Focus on Stacey Plaskett (Dem. Delegate, USVI) defending her relations with Epstein.
  • Plaskett: “Jeffrey Epstein was a constituent… I gave any donations… to women’s organizations.” (21:07)
  • Novak and Finn mock the media's soft questioning, especially on CNN:
    • Novak: “It’s okay to laugh at people when they say buffoonish things. Why didn’t they just laugh at her, Emily? Because that was actually quite laughable.” (21:49)
    • Finn: “Her answer, honestly, Jake, I think it’s because of the severity of all the accusations… I think everyone is kind of like, whoa, we cannot be downplaying this at all.” (22:07)
  • They critique the lack of media curiosity and bipartisan political entanglement, worrying that true accountability is unlikely:
    • Novak: “We are really allowing some of the perpetrators or some of the accessories to his crimes to adjudicate them… this is just insane.” (23:14)
  • Finn calls the entire matter a “clown show.”

5. DEI in Education: ‘Chicanery’ and Language Contamination

Guest: Alvin Louie, Founder of Courage is a Habit
Timestamps: 40:19–51:29

• Novak accuses universities—even in red states—of secretly persisting with race-based admissions and DEI (Diversity, Equity, Inclusion) programs under new names.
  • Louie’s group arms parents with tools to identify both academic and parental “brainwashing.”
  • Louie on DEI and ‘Language Contamination’:
    • “They use your vocabulary, but not your dictionary.” (44:09)
    • “DEI is just a marketing… the root cause… is critical race theory. They’re not going to give that up.” (44:09)
  • Novak agrees, calling modern campus “wokeness” a substitute religion with no path to “redemption” if you fall outside progressive dogma.
  • Louie: “They are quite literally creating disciples out of your children and there is no redemption.” (46:55)
  • Practical advice—Louie urges parents and institutions to “reject inclusion and embrace exclusion,” reframing the debate.

Notable Quote:

“Inclusion… is a Trojan horse. The good life is about exclusion, especially if you’re a parent.”
— Alvin Louie (49:22)

6. Economic News & Cultural Trends

Timestamps: 28:43–38:17; 54:13–58:31

• Markets:
  • Nvidia’s “blowout” earnings spike Nasdaq; CEO Jensen Huang says new chip sales are “off the charts.”
  • Oddity: Lowe’s & Home Depot report similar numbers, but Lowe’s shares rise while Home Depot falls.
  • Gustav Klimt painting fetches $236.4M at auction, signaling optimism among the wealthy.
• Autos:
  • 2026 Toyota RAV4 will be hybrid-only, with lower pricing. New electric Porsche Cayenne debuts at over $100k.
  • RAV4’s hybrid focus and price drop highlighted as positive for consumers.
• Tech:
  • Viral video of a Tesla robo-taxi’s “safety driver” asleep sparks discussion—Novak suggests Tesla may welcome the viral moment as proof of safety, not risk.

7. Family Formation & Housing Costs

Guest: David Brody
Timestamps: 54:13–58:31

• Study finds a correlation between strict rent control/high housing regulations and falling child populations in big cities.
  • Novak: “If it’s expensive to live in a home or an apartment that’s big enough for kids, then who needs birth control?”
  • Brody reframes housing debate from economics to family values: “A lot of times we do get focused too much on the business aspect… maybe we need to… refocus our focus on families instead.” (57:08)
• Encourages listeners to observe day-to-day “hostility to parents” in urban life.

Memorable Quotes

• On Ukraine peace plan:
  “Ukraine does not have the power to get it back. There will be no reversal without NATO intervention, and nobody wants that.” — Lt. Col. Larry Brock (06:38)
• On Capitol scandals:
  “There’s nobody seems to be innocent here. Right. I mean, we know that there’s a lot of Republicans who were mixed up with this guy too…” — Jake Novak (23:14)
• On DEI in schools:
  “They use your vocabulary, but not your dictionary.” — Alvin Louie (44:09) “A good life really is about embracing exclusion.” — Alvin Louie (50:42)
• On housing and family:
  “If it’s expensive to live in a home or an apartment that’s big enough for kids, then who needs birth control?” — Jake Novak (54:13) “A lot of times we do get focused too much on the business aspect of it or the ideological aspect of it… but maybe we need to, as conservatives, refocus our focus on families instead.” — David Brody (57:08)

Overall Tone & Takeaways

• The episode takes a combative stance against what it labels as “buffoonery,” “treason,” and the “religion” of wokeness in American institutions.
• Jake Novak offers news aggregation, sharp opinion, and open skepticism about motives both in media and politics.
• Frequent guests and experts reinforce Real America's Voice’s focus on challenging mainstream and establishment narratives, embracing a mix of dark humor, policy critique, and cultural commentary.
• The episode is particularly notable for plainspoken, sometimes provocative critiques of both right and left political factions, a focus on the culture war in education, and repeated calls for accountability and transparency.