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Ahead on American Sunrise Early Edition. Israel's parliament approves the Trump peace plan and the ceasefire in Gaza is in effect at this hour. Now, of course, the question is, will Hamas deliver on its promise to return the living hostages Monday or Tuesday? Karma is a witch. The woman who went after President Trump on a never before prosecuted mortgage charge is now facing a mortgage fraud indictment herself on a very common charge. But will Letitia James play the martyr card all the way to an acquittal? It's day 10 of the government shutdown and everyone's patience is starting to wear thin, even the usually very mild mannered Speaker Mike Johnson. He's blowing up a bit at Chuck Schumer, who will blink first. In Virginia, the one and only governor's race debate last night between Republican winsome Sears and Democrat Abigail Spanberger was a very stark study. In contrast, Spanberger wouldn't go off strip script. She was robotic while Sears aggressively went after her. And the frontrunner for next year's governor's race in California may not be the frontrunner anymore. Social media is now flooded with recent and not so recent videos of Democrat Congresswoman Katie Porter being just plain nasty to reporters and her own staffers. American SUNRISE EARLY EDITION starts now.
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Jake Novak
Welcome, everyone. It's a no tie Friday here on American Sunrise EARLY edition. Maybe I should call it a no war Friday because we do have the ceasefire in effect right now between Israel and Hamas. Israel's parliament coming through and approving the Trump peace plan. Now, of course, of course, we just wait to see if the hostages will be released. President Trump says it would be Monday and Tuesday. President Trump will be heading to the area. 200American troops of some sort will be going to the region to monitor the ceasefire deal. I don't think that they'll really be having to do all that much. Hopefully, and hopefully they will stay very, very safe and so on and on down the line. We definitely have something to celebrate this morning. Not the Nobel Peace Prize committee, however, they of course decided overnight not to give it to President Trump. We'll talk about all that as we move on, but I want to talk about the overall situation here in America that we are experiencing every single week. And keep our discussion at home as we begin this program today. And helping me do that is Reverend Donald Eason. He's the president of cure, which is the center for Urban Renewal and Education. And, and you know, Reverend Eason, it seems like every week we meet a new American man, usually between the ages of 20 and 30, who's committing another horrific act in America. Now the latest example is this person right here, the 29 year old man who started that fire that really in many ways is the greatest single disaster in dollar signs in American history. Luckily, only 12 people died, but $150 billion worth of damage and many, many lives ruined. And because we had Tyler Robinson, the assassin of Charlie Kirk, we had the Minneapolis church shooting, a church school shooting suspect. This is just in the last few weeks. Every week it's another. I mean, these are the kinds of people that you're trying to reach, aren't you Reverend Eason, with what you're trying to work with. This is a crisis in America.
Reverend Donald Eason
Oh, absolutely. And before we get started, thank you, Jake, for having me on your show again. It's always a pleasure to be here with you. Yes, these are the kind of young men we are trying to reach. You know, we have a society that has really beaten up on our young men. Our school system is beating up on them. It's really, young men need outlets, young men need mentoring, they need guidance and they need structure. And when you have a society that, that doesn't have structure and what I mean by that is just basic things. When you can say a man can be a woman or a woman can be a man, that's taking things out of structure. We, we need, and young men need that in order to, to grow up right. You know, young men can be mistress as it is. You know, there, there's a, a story once told about these two young little boys that used to run around the community and, and be mischievous and, and every time something happened they knew was the two young little boys, they were brothers and the mother didn't know what to do and sent them to a pastor down the street. Everybody said he knows how to correct them. And, and, and then the, the young men, she couldn't finally do anything with them so she sent them to this pastor and they were sitting in front of him. The first one, the oldest one said, you go in first. And the youngest ones that said you go in. So the oldest one went in, he sat down with me, nine or 10 years old. And the preacher said to him, Where's God? And then he said to him, where's God? And he got loud. And the young man ran out the house. He ran out the church, ran down to his house, ran in the closet. His little brother followed. And he said, what happened? He said, he, God is missing, and they think we did it. And so we need God in these young men's lives. And that's what's missing in our society. We need the young men to have a moral framework to work from. I think it was John Adams that said, our Constitution is for a moral and religious people and it's wholly fit for no other. And I think that's what's missing.
Jake Novak
You know, I think another thing that people might suddenly start to realize is, you know, I don't like necessarily to play on race all that much, but the three or four people that I just mentioned at the beginning, before I brought you onto the program, are all young white men. And I think that this is now something that the white community in America, which maybe felt it was immune from for many years, has. Is experiencing. But, you know, the African American community has been dealing with this for a long time. The lack of guidance in their own community, the fact that the politicians abandoned them, took their vote once every couple of years in a November, and then ignored them. Now you have the white community experiencing this as well, probably for a generation now. It's something that we've been seeing for a long time. And there is a political angle to this. And that's my preamble to talk about Governor Gavin Newsom here. He is the governor of this state that had this worse, from a price tag point of view, worst disaster in American history. And the first thing that he does is he starts making fun of the fact that the firestarter is from Florida. Yes, he's from Florida now. He was living in California when he committed this act. He moved to Florida later. The only thing Gavin Newsom's interested in saying is, ha, ha, this guy lives in a red state. This reminds me of the way that Democrat politicians for years have been neglecting the African American community, taking their vote for granted, making it just about that and not about these people. And then you get all this. You get so much sadness. You get so much failure in a society. Sadly, you're not unfamiliar with this, are you?
Reverend Donald Eason
Unfortunately not. I know. I grew up in Detroit. I grew up in the urban community. And it really doesn't. It's not really about black and white as much as it boils down to one's moral character. We Want to make it about Democratic and Republican and Gavin Newsom has certainly done that, but really it's about what are these young men being taught? What are we teaching in our schools? I think we talked about on another segment before is the educational system. The moral decline is, is what's happening. And it's easy to point to the left or the right or black or white, but really it's about the individual. That's, you know, at cure, that's what we talk about. Faith, freedom and personal responsibility. At the end of the day, it's the individual and not the, the group itself, but the individuals within the group. If they, if they improve themselves, then the group will improve. If, if we make it about the group. The group is not the dynamic that we wanna focus on so much as we wanna focus on individuals improving themselves. And they do it as we believe a cure through faith, freedom and personal responsibility.
Jake Novak
Yeah, you know, I mean, just to bring this back to what's going on in the Middle east, you know, they have entire terrorist armies over there where the children are used. Young people are used literally, really literally, because they strap them up with explosives as cannon fodder. That's all they're. And now we have American politicians looking at our young people the same way. This is a great way for them. They know, they use them to indoctrinate the stuff. You're talking about, the trans stuff in schools. Great way to get the parents power away from them so that the politicians have more power. That's all. They don't care about trans rights or gay. They're interested in power. Same thing with the dunking on people. They don't care about this. The millions and billions of dollars of damage or the shootings. They love the idea of how much power they can get from it. And it's really, it's really rough. But Reverend, you know, again, there are tone deaf politicians that have been really just not seeing the reality in front of them for a long time. And I wanted to bring this to the drug war and the drug scourge in this country because he had Senator Rand Paul yesterday posting this about how he's upset that President Trump has declared war on the drug cartels. He says it's not, it's not allowed in the Constitution. There we see these boats that have been getting blown out of the water. Rand Paul is so tone deaf, he doesn't understand this isn't. It was bad enough in the 80s and the 90s when the drug cartels were trying to make a buck and get rich. Off of our young people. But it's more than that now, Reverend. They are deliberately trying to destroy our country. This isn't a lot of the drugs they're selling. There actually isn't much of a profit on them. It's really just about destroying the country. This is not just like some drug, some drug dealer on a corner, you know, hoping to make a buck. This is about decimating the American population again, something that people who are aware of what's going on in our urban streets have known for some time.
Reverend Donald Eason
Absolutely. It's always been about. Well, I won't say always, but it's been about destroying the American culture. First, if we go back to the urban community, they took the fathers out of the home, and now they're flooding our streets with drugs. And then, of course, they're flooding our community with illegal immigrants. And this is destroying America. But in order. I believe it was the first Bush that said, it's time for a New World Order. And in order to have a New World Order, you have to take down the most powerful, the. The most free country in the world, which is America. So it is definitely about bringing down this country. And what President Trump is doing is trying to save this country. As he says he wants to make our country great again. And part of it is you have justice is required. We serve a just God. And what that means is when people do criminal acts, they have to be held responsible for them. If they're not held responsible for it, you have what we've been having in our street with antifa and other organizations. You have mayhem, you have anarchy. And what President Trump is trying to do is bring a form of justice into our streets or responsibility for bad behavior or bad actors. And it's very much needed.
Jake Novak
Absolutely, Reverend, I want to finish up by showing you what I consider to be a really scary moment. Last night, we had the one and only governor's race debate in the state of Virginia. Winsome Sears, the Republican nominee, versus Abigail Spanberger, the Democrat nominee. And this was the moment in the debate where Winston Sears challenged Abigail Spamberger to finally call for Jay Jones, the Attorney General candidate, who was caught sending texts about how he wanted to have the leader of the House of Delegates, the Republican leader, murdered and his children murdered, and double down on it later. It wasn't a drunk text. He called the person he texted later to defend those horrific comments. So here she is talking to Abigail Spamberger from across the, you know, the stage, asking her why she just won't ask him to drop out of the race. And I want you to watch Spamberger and her reaction because it's downright frightening. Check it out.
Winsome Sears
I don't understand why you just can't come forward and say, he needs to go. I mean, we're talking about murder. We're talking about someone's life being taken from them. Have you nothing to say about that? Are you not going to address it?
Reverend Donald Eason
Really?
Winsome Sears
You can't go any further. You're a governor. You're supposed to stand up for all the people. Are you saying political murder is all right?
Jake Novak
I mean, Governor, this is how we get radicalized youth who had Spamberger just standing there like a robot is. If she wasn't even in the room. She can't simply say, yeah, fantasizing about murder is wrong and you should drop out of the race. We want to hold people to a higher standard. Not only did she not address that, she just stands there like she can't even hear anyone talking to her. This is scary, scary stuff.
Reverend Donald Eason
That's the first time I saw that clip, Jake, and that is scary. I've heard what. What the attorney general candidates said on the. On the Democratic side about fantasizing about killing his opponent or his opponent being killed and. And his opponent's children. And. And you mentioned earlier about a lot of what they're doing is about power. Do you want someone that thinks that way in power as the attorney general of a state and the person that's running for governor on the same ticket, the same platform as the person that had this. This fantasy authority? It's not just fantasy. Put it out in words he texted and. And not. Not speak out against that. That is a scary proposition, even for the people of Virginia. I would not recommend that they vote for that attorney general or that gubernatorial candidate that is not willing to speak out against that. Because if those two get in power, that's a scary proposition.
Jake Novak
It really is. Well, Reverend Don Leeson, let's have a peaceful weekend. Thank you so much for addressing all these things. We'll speak to you again soon. Thank you.
Reverend Donald Eason
Thank you, Jane. Thanks for having me. God bless you.
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It's a live look at Seaside Heights, New Jersey. It's chilly here in the Northeast this morning. I want to say something. When you wake up this early to do this program, you start getting hungry for pizza pretty early as well. So we're all looking at the three brothers pizza and we're and we're hungry for pizza. You're probably looking at thinking about corn flakes or a breakfast sandwich. That's what we want. Welcome back to American Sunrise EARLY Edition. It's a no Tie Friday special. Welcome and thank you to those of you who are watching on the Getter and the Rumble, Platforms X and Substack who are watching and commenting. Appreciate your comments. Hey, welcome back. House Speaker Mike Johnson has just about had it with Chuck Schumer and the Democrats voting day after day to extend this shutdown. Remember, it's the Democrats who are voting for the shutdown. Republicans keep voting for a continuing resolution just to keep the government open. We can have the discussion and the debate another time about all the spending and how it needs to get under control. And I'll actually have an important story in a few minutes for you about the dead in America right now and how there's an interesting way to look at it. But still, it's the Democrats who are voting for this shutdown. And you're about to see Speaker Mike Johnson get about as agitated as he gets, at least in public. Listen to this as how he describes how he's feeling about Chuck Schumer.
House Speaker Mike Johnson
They're desperate. There's a rising Marxist wing in the Democrat Party. They're about to let the mayor of New York City, Chuck Schumer, is from New York. He sees a rising Marxist challenge to himself. And there's one thing that Chuck Schumer cares about more than anything else, and that is his Senate seat. The guy has been in Congress for 44 years. He doesn't know how to live life outside this building. And so he will do anything to make sure that he keeps that seat. He thinks AOC is going to challenge him or some other Marxist. I'm just telling you the plain truth. And I take no pleasure in this. I'm trying to muster every ounce of Christian charity that I can, but this is outrageous. He's playing games with the American people. Real people are being hurt. Veterans and troops and everybody. People that rely on these services. God bless America, do the right thing and open the government.
Jake Novak
You know, I wonder if Speaker Johnson has one of those incredible hunk. Hulk, don't make me angry. You wouldn't like me if I'm angry. I'm talking about old school Hulk, Bill Bixby, Hulk. Not. Not those other guys. Not Mark Ruffalo. Mark Ruffalo makes me angry all the time, actually. So anyway, it looks like, I mean, maybe he's like a superhero in secret when he gets very angry. But that's about as close to Incredible Hulk anger as you're going to see from Mike Johnson. So you can tell he's pretty agitated. All right, let me be blunt. Almost as blunt as Speaker Johnson was. Gold is up around 40% this year. Crashing through that 4,000 per ounce. Mark, you saw it. That's not speculation. That's reality. And if a portion of your savings isn't diversified into gold, you're missing the boat. Here's the facts. Inflation is still too high, the US Dollar is still too weak and the government debt is insurmountable. This is why central banks are flocking to gold. They're the ones driving prices up to record highs. But it's not too late to buy gold from Birch Gold Group and get in the door. Now Birch Gold will help you convert an existing IRA or 401k into a tax sheltered IRA. In gold, you don't pay a dime out of pocket. Just text America to 98-98-98 and claim your free info kit. There's no obligation, just useful info. The best indicator of the future is the past. And gold has historically been a safe haven for millennia. What else can say that? Who else can say that? Text America to 98-98-98 right now to claim your free info kit on gold. That's America to 9898 98. Protect your future today with Birch Gold. Coming up. Ferrari had its worst day ever at the stock market yesterday. I'll explain why. Hint. It comes down to two little letters and I bet you can guess what those letters are. American Sunrise, early edition. We'll be right back.
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Jake Novak
It's a live look at the east side of Manhattan looking at the east river. And look at that sun sunrise reflecting off the east river. By the way, they call it the east river, but it's still just the Hudson River. Listen, you get, you get New Yorkers angry when you argue about this. It's still the Hudson. It becomes the Hudson after Manhattan again. Anyway, east river, that's the Brooklyn Bridge, that first bridge that you see there. If you can squint your eyes in between that sunlight, beautiful shot this morning. Thanks to the control room for finding that. Hey, let's take a look at where the markets are going to open this today. We had a pause. All the major indices were down yesterday, but it looks like they're going to rebound this morning, at least modestly so. And gold still soaring, although gold did get under $4,000 an ounce a little bit yesterday. But here, you see it's back there above that. And look at crude oil. We're down at the $60 handle for crude oil a barrel. That's because of the peace deal between Israel and Gaza, not a huge drop down. The actual. The war between Israel and Hamas didn't actually drive oil prices that much higher over the last couple of years. Actually on October 6, the day before October 6, 2023, the day before that terrific attack by Hamas, oil was at the $90 a barrel level. So actually oil prices have gone down a lot since that war started. But the fact that it's over now or the ceasefire is in place, driving prices lower again. And let's take a look at Bitcoin. It was so close to the all time high yesterday. I think it's taken, it's pretty much where it was yesterday. 121 6. The all time high is about 125. So we're very close. Hey folks, our national debt, of course, it keeps growing 37, $38 trillion. But Treasury Secretary Scott Bessant is reminding all of us that there's a different way to look at the debt once in a while that you have to do. It doesn't mean that our debt isn't scary. But he's noting that our deficit to GDP ratio, that is our red ink for this year compared to how much the economy is growing this year is actually really narrowing. In other words, we don't owe as much as when you compare it to how much our economy is bringing in. This is the argument for people who say we have to grow out of this debt, make so much money for our economy that people, even if they're paying low tax rates, are putting enough money into the government to pay for our spending. Now this is significant because the economy hasn't been shrinking. Folks, if you've been watching this program, you know that we had a very big growth spurt in the second quarter of this year. Very, very strong. So if the deficit to the economy is shrinking, that means that the deficit is actually not as big as we thought. Again, I'm just, I'm trying to give you a little bit of a ray of sunshine here about this. The economy is strong and our deficit to the, to the size of the economy is not as big. So we can grow ourselves out of the worst of it. We can't grow ourselves out of the debt completely, but we can do some good damage to the debt and that's all right. President Trump is reportedly going to exempt generic drugs, generic pharmaceuticals from all those pharmaceutical tariffs that he has in place. Remember, he's trying to get the big drug companies to make the drugs here in the United States. That would absolutely crush the generics who make them in some cheaper places. So there you go. And that's a shot of Teva, which is the big, big generic pharmaceutical giant in the world. Their stock went up very nicely on that news yesterday that it looks like president Trump's going to exempt the generics. Remember, he wants to get prices down. So tariffing the generics wouldn't help that. Hey, I know what you did last summer America, or this summer America. You smoked a lot of pot. Probably not those of you watching this program, maybe some of you, but the pot smoking situation this summer must have been through the roof because tilray, which is a big cannabis grower, reported really good numbers for the July through September period profits and revenues. Tilray shares were up 22% on that news. Tilray is a very volatile stock. If you're investing in it, make sure you don't put your whole house on it. But apparently the pot sales and the cannabis growing was really, really good this summer. We'll have to see what that means. Maybe people were depressed. Pot's not the answer, folks. For some people there are some conditions where it helps, but I don't know if it helps for depression. Okay, ladies and gentlemen, start your engines. Tea company artilleryteaco.com use promo code LIBERTY for 20% off your order. Artillery tea is all natural whole leaf. The tea bags are chemical free and each teabag can be used twice. 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Investors didn't like that news, not because they love EVs so much, but because Ferrari basically has thrown a lot of money down the toilet on this 40% goal. They wasted their time and their money on this ridiculous goal. People don't want electric Ferraris, not in large numbers. Maybe 10% of you. That's the most. And so this is a lot of money that they wasted in R and D and other stuff on something that's not going to happen. So the investors punish Ferrari. Learn your lesson about this, everybody. GM maybe not learning this lesson. They're going to roll out the all electric Chevy Bolt again. They're going to bring it back in 2027. Now this of course is different from the Ferrari story because it's going to list for under $27,000. That's the goal for this. So they're going for the low cost market, not, not the Ferrari people. Okay, so maybe it'll work for them. That is still a couple of thousand dollars more though than the Nissan Leaf, which will continue to be the cheapest all electric vehicle on the market. But as you learned on this program a couple of days ago with that video I showed you of the salesman from Florida, the Nissan Leaf is the hardest car to sell in America. It is ugly. People don't want to buy it. Even if you give them a great deal, even if they've had bad credit and the dealer ignores it, they still won't buy a Nissan Leaf. So maybe the Chevy Bolt will come in and get some of those buyers. Another GM story for you here. You know that temporary shutdown at GM's Factory Zero? That's what they call it. Factory Zero. It's in Hamtramck, Michigan. Well, now it's not so temporary. It was supposed to reopen on Monday. This Monday, not so much. Now GM says it's going to stay closed at least through the end of the year. Factory Zero is where they make the GMC Hummer ev. Yep. And it's also where they make the Cadillac Escalade iq. Just not enough demand for these vehicles. If I owned a sweet 2018 Porsche 911, I'd be really sad to find out that it had been burned down to the ground. Or burned to a crisp. But I'd be really sad if someone had the video evidence showing that I was the one who burned it. That's what happened in Brazil. You're watching surveillance video here of a guy burning his own Porsche 911. Why did he do this? Well, according to Brazilian police, he did it because he owed a lot of taxes on the vehicle, couldn't pay them. He was hoping to have the car destroyed, collect the insurance money for it, and maybe out of that, pay not only the taxes, but get himself another car. Well, he got busted and I think he deserves it for destroying a beautiful piece of art like a Porsche 911. What a jerk. I think they should throw him in the slammer and throw away the key. All right, speaking of moving America, I have a big event to tell you about. I want you all to know. Take a look at this.
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Jake Novak
There you saw it Saturday. That's tomorrow, everyone. Tomorrow from 5pm Starting at 5pm this incredible tribute to the United States Marine Corps 250 years. A big special here on Real America's Voice. I hope you'll join us. You get a lot of reminders between now and 5pm tomorrow, but I hope you watch it. Hey, coming up, it's the end of the Israel Gaza War and it's a big win for President Trump. But who else wins and who loses? We'll dig into that when American Sunrise EARLY EDITION continues.
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It's Friday, October 10th. Here are this morning's top stories. Israel's parliament approves the Trump peace plan and the ceasefire in Gaza is now in effect as of this morning. Now, will Hamas deliver on its promise to return the living hostages on Monday or Tuesday? It's day 10 of the government shutdown and everyone's patience is starting to wear thin. Even the usually very mild mannered speaker Mike Johnson is blowing up a bit at Chuck Schumer, who will blink first in all this. In Virginia, the one and only governor's race debate last night between Republican Winsome Sears and Democrat Abigail Spamberger was a study in very stark contrasts. Spamberger would not go off script. She was basically robotic at times while Sears aggressively went after her. And karma is a witch, I said, which the woman who went after President Trump on a never before prosecuted mortgage charge is now facing a very common mortgage fraud indictment herself. But will Letitia James play the martyr card all the way to an acquittal? American SUNRISE EARLY EDITION continues now. And welcome to this no tie Friday here in American Sunrise Early Edition, October 10th. That's my sister's birthday. Happy birthday, Marianne. Joining us now to talk about another I think good piece of news really overall or at least in a net category is the peace in the Middle east or the ceasefire between Israel and Hamas, to be more specific. He is a really important voice on the Middle east and defense tech, by the way, Jordan Hersh, he's a senior counselor at Palantir Technologies and Jordan. First, I want to get to the big picture here. I hate when people get too into the nitty gritty too soon. I feel that the ceasefire deal is a win for the good guys in general, starting with President Trump. I know that there are some people who have some reservations about this. What's your net outlook on all this? How do you feel about this right now?
Jordan Hirsch
First, good morning. And good morning to everyone listening. And I think there's a lot of reasons to celebrate this morning. Bottom line is Hamas gave up its leverage and Israel did not. And there's a lot to worry about. There's a lot to work out. It's the Middle east after all. But if you look at what happened, Hamas has given up the hostages or is God willing, going to give up the remaining hostages and the bodies of those who had died in Gaza. And in exchange, Israel is going to withdraw partially from Gaza. It's going to remain in all the key corridors. It's going to remain on the Philadelphia corridor. And if things go south, the Israeli army is still present. I think that is a major victory. What comes from here. There's a lot to work out. We don't know how the disarmament process is going to work, what the Arab countries are going to do as far as rehabilitation and a political transition. But phase one is really important. One of the major goal of this war for Israel was the return of the hostages. And it appears that we are on the verge of Israel accomplishing that goal with help from the United States.
Jake Novak
It's going to be a bittersweet moment, and that's really an understatement, when those hostages come back, especially the ones who we know we've seen in videos, who are absolutely emaciated. I don't know, they may not even be able to walk when they. When they are turned over, they may end up coming through in wheelchairs. I'm bracing myself for that. How about you?
Jordan Hirsch
Yeah, I think there's a lot of talk of what's going to happen when the media goes into Gaza and sees. But in a lot of ways, we've seen that for two years. And it's not to underestimate the devastation. Gaza is a broken and wrecked place, and that is Hamas's fault, of course, for having launched this ruinous war for itself and for its people. But what people haven't seen, except for when Hamas got extremely arrogant and started publishing the videos of some of the hostages looking emaciated. As you said, we have not seen the condition of the hostages that have been there now for just over two years. And I think it's going to be very bracing and a very difficult thing for us and let alone for Israelis and for the families of the hostages, hopefully they will be able to recover with time, as many of the hostages have already been released, have been able to do so and start getting their lives back on some footing, whatever that might be.
Jake Novak
We're talking to Jordan Hirsch from Palantir Technologies. Jordan, just before the ceasefire deal was announced, you wrote this piece for Tablet magazine about the difference between June Israel and October Israel. Can you generally tell us what you're talking about there?
Jordan Hirsch
Yeah. So this is something I thought about during the 12 day war in June, and I was glad to have a chance to write about it on the anniversary of October 7th. I realized that historically, if you look at some of Israel's wars, some of Israel's greatest successes happen in June, of course, we think of the June 1967 war. We think also now of, of the 12 day war from this past June. But there have been other incidents like the bombing of the Osirik nuclear reactor In Iraq in 1981, the dogfight over Lebanon with Syrian MIGs in 1982 in which Israel did not lose a single plane to almost 100 Syrian losses. And in October, by contrast, you have the Yom Kippur war. Of course, you have October 7th, but also really the earnest start of the second intifada, the Nachston Waksman disaster from 1994. And what are these two, two historical moments really represent? They're not just moments on a timeline, but I argue that they really represent two different strategic paradigms. June, Israel is proactive and strong and competent and also at the same time deeply humble about what it knows and does not know of its enemy's intentions. And October, Israel is more complacent. It believes in its own sense of permanence and it is risk averse, which puts it in situations like Yom Kippur or 10 7, where it's not really anticipating what's going to happen next. And I argue that these two historical streams sort of revolve around each other throughout Israeli history. And the good news is, I argue that I think we've entered, that Israel has entered a June moment. And the piece really breaks down what we can expect from an Israel that has entered a June moment.
Jake Novak
Jordan, much of the world, especially Europe, attempted to appease the Islamist masses in their own borders, inside their own borders during this war by trying to distance themselves between from Israel politically. And some even took the extra step of promising not to buy any more Israeli defense tech. Denmark found out the hard way, you can't do that. Just this week they said, yeah, we're actually going to have to buy some Israeli defense tech because that's the best out there for the, for certain things, especially missile defense and things like that. Look, you're generally in this, in this sector as well. Palantir does a lot of defense tech as well. This is like, it's like that old joke or the old meme that said, hey, you want to boycott Israel, then you're going to need to give up your cell phone, your laptop and a bunch of other things. This is just to me the reality here. And I guess now that the ceasefire is in place, sheepishly and quietly, I expect more European countries to backtrack on some of these boycotts that they tried to execute.
Jordan Hirsch
Yeah, well, I would say reality still gets a vote. I give great credit to President Trump in particular for weathering really a flood. And you saw this over and over again on social media. We entered a moral panic every three weeks. And the flood is what I think some of the European leaders became subject to, particularly last month. And now their actions last month look a lot different in light of President Trump's diplomacy that achieved the ceasefire and hopefully something more over time. And when I say reality still gets a vote, I think if you look at the results of the war, if you paid attention only to social media and elite media and certain dignitaries across the world, you would think Israel was isolated. You would look at the boycotts from the European countries and others. You would look at the, the walkout from the United Nations. But what's happened in the last week is really the entire table flipped over. Now it's Hamas that's isolated. And I think the Israeli defense tech is just an example of the fact that Israel is one of the, I think, dozen countries in the world whose actions actually matter. It's on par with all of the great powers. And you can't really say that about many of the other countries that were, you know, supposedly involved in what happened here to wrap up the war. So I think Israel, the surface level looks like isolation, looks like it was becoming a pariah, but that's quite unlikely to happen. I think it is an absolute necessity for countries, and I think you will see countries begin to roll back some of the seemingly symbolic moves they made over the last several months. I think we'll see them again, but I'm not too worried over the long term because I think, as I said, reality gets a vote. The reality is that Israel is one of the dozen countries who really matter in the world, whose decisions will affect global affairs. And that's not going to change anytime soon. I think in many ways, Israel's now in a unipolar moment in the Middle east. And the hard part will just be managing that for them.
Jake Novak
Jordan, real quick, last time you joined us on this program, we were talking about Palantir's amazing program for college age Americans. They cannot go to college. Instead do this incredible, I would just call it maybe an apprentice program that you have at Palantir. And you know, when you see how this war has ended up and you see how much this war somehow, because it doesn't make sense considering the size of the country, somehow permeated the campuses of every campus, elite campus in America and really seemed to distract so many students from what they're there to do. And now with the result of the war being that this pro, this pro Hamas element on campus, they're the big losers here. They wasted their time. Some of them even got expelled from these schools for what? For, for a terrorist army which has now basically been having to surrender. I wonder if you got to be patting yourself on the back at Palantir for having this kind of an option and showing this to the, to the parents in the coming years and saying, do you want your kid to do this or you want it to come over here? It's got to feel good for you guys.
Jordan Hirsch
Yeah, the program is going really well. We're very excited about it. The fellows have performed very admirably, both in the kind of seminar curriculum that we put together for them and in the real work that they are doing for customers. And I think to go back to the reality gets a vote. They are doing real work on behalf of real partners of ours and changing the way the world works through our software. And that's quite a bit different from what their peers can say on college campuses. So I think we're very proud to be able to give them that opportunity. And they are making a real difference at Palantir. They are right alongside our engineers who have been there for 5, 6, 7, 8, you know, sometimes over a decade. And that's something that very few 18 year olds can say. So we are, we are indeed very proud. It's only the beginning.
Jake Novak
Well, I hope that we continue to get more options for all of our students, the elite students who are great in the regular classroom, the ones who are really good with their hands and can actually make things happen all over the spectrum. We need more choices for our kids, that's for sure. Jordan Hirsch, thank you so much for joining us. Have a great weekend.
Jordan Hirsch
Thanks so much, Jake.
Jake Novak
Coming up, David Brody and I will discuss this whole Letitia James thing. It's about karma and it's about the entitled political class. It's also about arrogance. American Sunrise, early edition. We'll be right back.
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Jake Novak
Beautiful morning in America across much of the country. Right here in the Northeast. And that this is not a shot of the Northeast. Right here in the Northeast. Chilly this morning. Had to turn on my heat. I hate turning it on before November. I'll probably end up needing the air conditioning a little bit later, but there you go. Welcome back to American Sunrise early edition. It is a no tie Friday. David Brody never complies with no tie Friday. And that's okay. This is not like a mask mandate. I'm not going to make anyone do it. But anyway, I want to talk about the Letitia James indictment because there's something about it that I want people that I think is indicative of a larger strategy. All those people who went after President Trump went into these ridiculous indictments, these conjured up in cases and things like that. I'm talking about people like Jack Smith, I'm talking about people like Fanny Willis, and I'm talking about Letitia James, even Alvin Bragg as well. Something you have to notice about all those people I just mentioned. They're not even the B team, David. They're the C team. Jack Smith, before this whole Trump thing started, had one of the most embarrassing moments in the history of prosecution in this country when a nine to nothing decision in the Supreme Court slammed him down in his attempt to nail the then governor of Virginia, Fani Willis. Not exactly the greatest light in the darkness, Letitia James. These people were set up, I think by the DNC because they knew they were expendable. Listen, for whatever you think about the Democrats, they do have some great lawyers out there. These ain't one of any of them. The people I just mentioned. And Letitia James was set up. They set her up for something that she knew she could take a fall for and now she is.
David Brody
When you say set up, explain that a little bit because you would think that the DNC would want these prosecutions to go forward and so obviously they did. So what are you saying? Are you saying that they were expendable? In what sense? I mean, ultimately, wasn't it all about getting Trump?
Jake Novak
No, what I mean is they, they knew that the best lawyers out there wouldn't touch those cases with a ten foot pole. And so they, so yeah, so I should clarify. They went, they got the people who they could get to do this dirty work because they knew they didn't really have any reputations to lose. There you go. That's my.
David Brody
No, that, that makes, no, that makes a lot of sense, obviously. And yeah, you would think. Let's look at Leticia, Letitia James for a second. So she, she knew about the alleged, There it is. Alleged bank fraud that she was committing back then. And I say she may not think she was committing bank fraud, but she knew darn well what she was doing on that mortgage statement. We assume, I'm sorry, I have to do the alleged. And assumed. The point is, is that she knew what was going on in her own life. And so you would think that like maybe there would be a discussion to say, hey, you know what, we're going to go this route, but I'm just letting you know there are a couple skeletons here and you should just know about it.
Jake Novak
And maybe they did.
David Brody
And to your point, you know what? So what? Because they got to get someone to take the case and she was the one. So I don't know. All I know is that you at Fani Willis as well, you mentioned her, I mean, the boyfriend situation. Listen, if you're gonna go after a very popular President of the United States, sorry, msnbc, but he was very popular, especially with the MAGA base, you better dot your I's and cross your T's. And they didn't do any of that. And now karma is a. Oh, sorry, don't fill in the blank. Or maybe fill in the blank, because the truth of the matter is which.
Jake Novak
Here it is, by the way. Which.
David Brody
Yes. I'm sorry, let me go to a Bible verse instead. This is what it says In Proverbs, verse 31. In Proverbs 1. They will eat the fruit of their ways and be filled with the choices they have made. I believe that means be careful what you wish for.
Jake Novak
Yeah. Listen, we're all sinners, but if you're actually committing the sin that you're accusing someone else of doing at that moment, don't get into the prosecution game. All right, American Sunrise, the big show coming up. I'll see you on Monday on Early Edition.
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This episode of American Sunrise Early Edition centers on seismic current events: Israel’s parliament approves the Trump peace plan, bringing a ceasefire with Hamas and anticipation over hostage release; the 10th day of the U.S. government shutdown with Speaker Mike Johnson’s rare public anger; the unique challenges facing American youth, especially young men; and controversies swirling around politically motivated prosecutions and elite hypocrisy. The hosts traverse world news, U.S. politics, economic changes, debates, and culture with conversation partners including Rev. Donald Eason (CURE), Jordan Hirsch (Palantir), and David Brody.
On the needs of young men:
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On accountability in leadership:
"You're supposed to stand up for all the people. Are you saying political murder is all right?" — Winsome Sears [12:51]
On U.S. political dynamics:
"There's a rising Marxist wing in the Democrat Party…this is outrageous. He's playing games with the American people. Real people are being hurt." — Speaker Mike Johnson [18:18]
On Israel and global realpolitik:
"Reality still gets a vote. I give great credit to President Trump… diplomacy that achieved the ceasefire and hopefully something more over time." — Jordan Hirsch [40:37]
On prosecutorial hypocrisy:
"Karma is a witch... All those people who went after President Trump...they're not even the B team, David. They're the C team..." — Jake Novak [47:04]
Listeners are left with an unvarnished, conservative perspective on the news, sharp critiques of progressive politics, and clear calls to restore faith, justice, and responsibility in American life.