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From small fixes to big upgrades, eBay has all the parts you need at prices you'll love. Guaranteed to fit every time. Ebay things people love. Eligible items only. Exclusions apply. Ahead on American Sunrise early edition, a $100,000 reward is in place for information leading to the arrest of the assassin who murdered Charlie Kirk. The FBI has also released photos and a new video this morning of the person of interest in this case as the manhunt continues. But also continuing are a flurry of inappropriate responses and and misplaced priorities in the wake of Charlie Kirk's assassination. From CBS's Nate Burleson to House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries, why can't so many Democrats in the mainstream media just get it right? And speaking of getting it wrong, the mayor of Charlotte, North Carolina, fumbled her response to the murder of Irina Zaruska, and now she's fumbling a chance to get it right when it comes to President Trump's call for the death penalty in the case of American Sunrise. EARLY EDITION begins now. Welcome to American Sunrise EARLY Edition, the show where faith, freedom, and the values that built this nation take center stage. Your good deeds and bad deeds, that's how we're gonna judge you.
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Down the stories that matter. We will be letting the public know regularly what we have found. American Sunrise EARLY EDITION with your host, Jake Novak starts. Welcome to American Sunrise EARLY edition. It has been a difficult week. It's been an emotional week. I hope those of you who tuned into our live coverage at ground Zero yesterday are back here this morning. And as solemn and as difficult as it's been, I'm still going with the no tie Friday. I think Charlie Kirk, who was wonderfully informal in the way that he sometimes was able to approach people and formal and other times would have wanted it that way just for us to keep going and keep giving our message and feeling comfortable doing it. So again, I thank you for joining me. We've got a lot to talk about. Joining me to help me do that is our legal and political contributor, Dr. James Nuzzo. And, Jim, we have some breaking news in that the FBI has released a video of what looks to be obviously the shooter in this Case running across, across the roof of a building where apparently the shooting, the shooter was perched and then jumping off the roof. And then, of course, we also had the still pictures, more still pictures, clearer still pictures released yesterday by the FBI and a $100,000 reward. Jim, off the air, you were talking to me about how there's something different about this guy compared to some of the other shootings and atrocities we've seen in recent years.
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This fellow, unlike a lot of the other people who have been disturbed, didn't turn the gun upon himself, didn't try to kill himself. This is a person who, if you take a look at what his actions were. Now, I'm not a, I'm not a gun expert, and I can't tell you a saw there. A shot at 200ft is 200 yards is difficult or not difficult. But the rest of what he has done demonstrates tradecraft. He was all in black. He was lying. He was waiting. He obviously had gone and cased exactly where he wanted to go, where he wanted to go afterwards. He took a single shot. Even though there were three additional bullets in the chamber, he didn't take them. He took a single shot and then he left. He policed his, his, his brass afterwards. He did all the sort of things that someone who has been trained on how to go and kill does. Now, again, I'm not saying that this is a guy who's a professional killer because as was pointed out to me, no one shoots for the neck. They shoot for the head or they shoot for the body mass. So he actually missed. He didn't hit where he was supposed to hit. Didn't make any difference to Charlie. He's dead. But right now, if you were to ask me to put a nickel on the table as to where I think he is. I think he's out of the United States. I think that he is. Has planned his escape route. He knew how to get out of. Out of there, and he's long gone. Will we find him? Yes. Will it take a while? It may. But more is interesting is who is abating him, who is aiding and abating this guy. And the United States government needs to start rolling this up. We know who's been funding Intifa. We know who's been funding the Far Left. We haven't had the guts to go after them. It is time now to roll them all up. And if that means an arrest warrant for George Soros. Sign the arrest warrant. Pam Bondi. Have some guts for the first time in your life.
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Yeah, I think I certainly Hope he's still in the country if that means it will catch him quicker. Although, listen, he could go to Timbuktu for all I care. If we get him in the next minute, that's fine with me, too. But I do think, more importantly, more.
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Importantly, Jake, I'm sorry to interrupt, but more importantly, I'm okay that he's gone, because if he's left the United States, we're going to be able to roll up this conspiracy. It is more important to me that we roll up the conspiracy than that we're able to catch him on December 12th. Sorry, September 12th or September 13th. If we. If we do it in October 15th. But we roll up a conspiracy. That's better.
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Yeah, because we certainly didn't roll up the conspiracy with the attempt on President Trump's life this summer. We know there's got to be more than just this young kid, Matthew Crooks, who shot him. So we really have to get into that as well. But you know, the interesting thing that you make the point about this guy wants to live and things like that, I can't help but draw some parallels here to Luigi Mangione, who clearly also wants to live and make a spectacle of his trial. I wonder if you see some parallels there. There are some other pieces of evidence that were leaked out. I'm not going to report them, but there were some potentially other similarities between Mangione and this shooter. My point is, though, what I can report and what we all know is this established fact is that this guy is alive, like Mangione is alive. And if there is a trial, you know, this could also be used to grandstand. But maybe the trade off is we find out who his co conspirators were.
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Look, Mangioni, the heinousness of Mangione is twofold. One was the heinousness of the crime, obviously, but the second is the fact that the man was turned into this sort of sexy martyr for. For a cause. No one deserves to die. No one deserves to die because they happen to be the CEO of a corporation. You may not like what these healthcare corporations are doing, but no one deserves to be sort of like the Jacobins laid out. I don't know if you saw, Jake, but Intifa in Portland, Oregon, pulled out and I am not kidding you, two nights ago, a guillotine. And they had it in their square. The parallels with the French Revolution are strikingly similar in many ways. And we all know how the French Revolution ended, which was they turned upon themselves. I'm waiting to see that start happening.
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There's another parallel I'd like to draw because I'd like to ask you where we go politically. Next to me, this feels a lot more like 1848 to maybe 1858 violence between civilians. Although in this case it's only one side shooting. This isn't like bleeding Kansas where the pro slavers and the anti slavers are shooting each other. At this point, the instances of conservatives in America shooting others is minimal or nil. And again, I'm not trying to play the math game. Obviously every shooting is unacceptable, but let's face it, that's, that's just the reality. But that's where I feel like we are now. And I feel like civil war is where we are. Just because we may not have a Confederate army and a Union army, it doesn't matter. People are, are dying and there are, and there is armed violence going on inside America for political beliefs. That feels like civil war to me, Jim.
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Well, Greg Gutfield basically said it takes an awful lot to radicalize Republicans. This has radicalized Republicans. This and the death of that poor immigrant woman who was killed basically because she was a white woman. It is radicalizing a whole lot of normally what, what President Nixon called the silent majority. They're silent no more. The anger is boiling over. Whether this will mean, and I got, I hope not, that the people on the right also arm themselves and we get to a true civil war. But it basically, if there was any question as to whether or not the Republicans were going to turn out in 26, this is over. It's done. The left has radicalized the right. I am remembering the comment by the Japanese admiral after the atrocity at Pearl Harbor. We have awakened a sleeping giant. It will not end well for us. I think that the left has also awakened a sleeping giant. It will not end well for them.
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Yeah, I mean, look, the problem with most of the Trump supporters in the country, I wouldn't say most, but a critical mass has been that when Donald Trump is not personally on the ballot, their turnout hasn't been as strong. And I think that Charlie Kirk now will be a cause to bring those people out to the ballot. As you mentioned the 2026, I think that anyone thinking about staying home because Donald Trump himself isn't on the ballot is going to change, has already changed their minds. And of course, you know, you made the point about, of course, the right is already armed in this country and that is the high level of responsibility they have and that they haven't turned those guns on their political Opponents, I don't think I agree with you. I don't think that's going to happen, and I certainly don't want that to happen. But we should note the right's been armed for a long time and hasn't done this. So this isn't a case of, well, everybody's just the same. No, I mean, there's actually a tremendous level of restraint going on from the right. Last question I want to ask you is, again, just is there any way, I mean, again, we talk about this all the time. You and I agree that the Democrats just need a common sense political consultant or two, but is there some Democrat out there who could somehow save his or her party by saying the right things now? Because I know that there are a couple who have, and I want to give them credit, but not enough. And we have people in the news media like Nate Burleson deciding that this is a good time to blame the Republicans for their rat rhetoric. And you have Chuck Schumer saying, well, I don't think we should blame anybody. I mean, this feels like a time when somebody else in that party could make. Could do the right thing personally, but also the right thing for their party. Do you see that happening? I don't know.
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There. There are two. There are two voices, neither of which are getting much play. One is, bizarrely enough, John Fetterman, who actually has been a voice of extraordinary reason for the past year and change. And John Fetterman again has come out several times and has not pulled punches because that's Fetterman's way. The other person is Rahm Emanuel, who thought that he could run towards the center for 28 and the center is closing. Rahm is a man of considerable political talent. If anybody is able to use sort of the levers of power, and Rahm knows how to use the levers of power in order to sort of blow open the center of the Democratic Party to create a lane for people of good consciousness. It's Rom. I look to Rom to sort of stand up and to speak out loudly if, if he's listening, if his political people are listening. This is your moment, Rom. This is your moment to go and seize the Democratic Party. No one's doing it. You can do it. And if you do it, you will have a whole lot of quiet Democrats who are not getting the play on the media who will sort of say, oh, finally a voice of reason. I'm really hoping. I mean, I look, I like John Fetterman, but John Fetterman is not going to go any further than he is. Rahm Emanuel has sights on the White House. If he's going to do it, he needs to seize the moment. This is the moment. Seize it.
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Rom well, I agree with you that he can do it. I just don't think it's going to happen. But listen, I just want a more peaceful Democratic Party that isn't shooting the people I Admire and me. Dr. James Nezah, thank you so much for joining us. Have a great weekend. I know it's going to be a solemn one for all of us, but try to enjoy it.
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I have to tell you, I have a little bit of a confession to make and I don't know if I said it on the air yesterday, I was down at ground zero on the day that it happened and a couple days after that as well. But since then, I had never returned. It was just too painful for me. And I'm really glad I did yesterday, because the sense that you felt when you were down at ground zero yesterday was incredible kinship and love. You know, there were a lot of people down there who were the children and other relatives of nine, 11 victims. And you know that they know each other. They probably don't see each other that much, but they see each other certainly every year at this event. They know each other well. They're smiling most of the time, remembering their loved ones and celebrating the relationships that they have now with their fellow families of victims and things like that. It was a very, very powerful day. I'm still very much impacted by it. And then on top of that, of course, we were all talking about the murder of Charlie Kirk and how evil has many different forms. Unfortunately, it keeps trying. They never stop. And the death of Charlie Kirk was on the minds of so many people downtown. And I don't think they were all Republicans or all conservatives, believe me, even though they had gone through the 911 thing. But they were all very upset about it, and they know about this kind of pain. I want to talk a little bit about something that I was going to Talk also with Dr. Nuzzo about just in the previous segment, about one of the other things that needs to happen. You heard me say this, and this is not an insult, because it's one of the things that frustrates me, and I'm sure it frustrates a lot of you as well, that while President Trump has been considering the fact that he's not an established politician, so incredibly successful in his personal races, the three times he's run for president, Republicans and the people who supposedly are on his team in midterm elections have not done as well. Certainly didn't work out well in 2018. In 2022, the midterm elections did not go as well for the Republicans as expected. Remember, they did not take back both houses of Congress. And that was a disappointment, to say the least. Anyway, this is our next election coming up. It's more than a year. I grant you that. It's 14 months to November. True, November 2026. But for Charlie Kirk. Now, if you can't bring yourself to vote for candidates enthusiastically because they're not named Donald Trump or you don't trust them to support President Trump enough, then do two things. First of all, make sure you vote in the primaries or call up those candidates and tell them they need to support this agenda. And second of all, do it for Charlie Kirk. Do it for people who are still with us, like Scott Pressler, who go around and knock on doors and work so hard. There need to be hundreds more people like this. We need to replace Charlie Kirk. That can't right get to the point of his abilities and his impact. But if there are a hundred more people trying to get there and getting maybe halfway there, then that will really be the great legacy here. Again, 14 months to the midterms. I'm not going to tell you how to vote in each individual election. That's not what I do. But I am going to tell you that you got to vote and you got to make sure that you elect people who are going to try to attack what's going on in this country in a peaceful but very, very stern manner. It's one other thing I want to talk about. Jim and I were going to talk about this. We didn't have the time. But the point is there need to be arrests made of the people who are running the, the NGOs and other funding organizations that we know are encouraging this. Again, doesn't necessarily mean they have to be locked up forever. But I would arrest George Soros, I would arrest Alex Soros, I would arrest the leaders of some of these other, the big donors and tell them they are being arrested on suspicion of fomenting violence in this country and give them a desk appearance ticket and then they can leave and hire all their expensive lawyers. And we know what's going to happen then. Doesn't matter. Put the fear of God into these people. Call up Paramount, Skydance, which now owns cbs and tell them that they are in danger of losing broadcast licenses unless they stop having people on their shows like Nate Burleson trying to blame the Republicans and the victims for the death of Charlie Kirk. Tell MSNBC and See it and their owner Comcast that they may not get their next broadband license unless they deal with this again. This will all be fought in the courts. Let them stew and, and stew. They can sue all they want. They can fight it in the courts. And I'm not asking President Trump or anyone to break the laws. There's nothing illegal about what I just described. Let this process go on. That's very, very important to all of us. But for you and I, the thing is to remember, don't let Charlie Kirk's voice be silenced or what he was going to try to say, be silenced just because of this terrible killing. And we know that there has to be somebody or some folks who encourage this and maybe even paid for it. We'll find out more, God willing, when this person is caught. But remember, our opportunity now is to vote. It's silly for people to go on TV like they're doing now and only say don't be violent. Of course we should say that. But honestly, we're beyond that now. People who inspire this need to be punished, punished legally but sternly. And I think we can all support that. All right. When we come back, we're going to take a look again at the free market. Charlie Kirk was a very devoted capitalist. We're going to take a look at some of the very interesting news there, including an interesting story coming out of the car industry. Ford is trying some new messaging and I think I need to warn them about something. And later, the political fallout continues from the murder of the Ukrainian refugee on that Charlotte commuter train. We're going to talk to a US Senate candidate from North Carolina about it later this hour. American Sunrise, EARLY edition. We'll be right back. It's a live look at ground zero in New York City where I was yesterday and where you watched our program live yesterday as well. Of course, it's always in our minds, not just, not just on the actual date of September 11th. Want to thank everybody who was involved in not only putting that together, but watching it. Not far from ground zero is Wall Street. Let's take a look at where the markets will begin today because of course, again, as I Talked about yesterday, 911 was an attack on our financial markets as well. And you see some red arrows this morning not very far down on the S P500 in the Nasdaq, 100 points down on the Dow. But understand, folks, that he all the market indices hit all time highs yesterday closed very, very securely inside of all time highs. So this small give back at the open, which may not last the whole day is nothing. Also take a look at oil right now, $63 a barrel and gold again, we're getting really close to that $3,700 per ounce level. Let's take a look at bitcoin. Bitcoin yesterday starting to show a little bit more traction going up a little bit higher. Yeah, now we're at 100, just, just about 115,000. So starting to creep up higher as well on that number. Well, what got the markets to those all time highs yesterday was the consumer inflation report for August that came out. It basically came in just as expected. There was one smaller part of it that was hotter than expected. And there was another part that was as expected. The bottom line is, folks, investors didn't see anything in that report that would stop the Fed from cutting interest rates in what is now five or six days from now. Next week is when the Fed's going to have that meeting. And there's a little drama at that meeting because we don't know who's going to be sitting at the table with the whole situation. I'll be talking about that in a minute. But honestly, the Fed is going to cut rates. I would be shocked if they don't. And that's where markets are looking at and that's what they want. This is a very interesting story I'm going to tell you about right now. Have Billions, Will Travel Now, Paramount Skydance is run by David Ellison. He's the son of Larry Ellison, the founder of Oracle. But of course, David is a huge shareholder in Oracle. And Oracle shares earlier this week went up a whopping 30% in one day. Larry Ellison himself became well over $100 billion richer in one day from that day. And David Ellison definitely made a few billion himself. So what are you going to do with all those extra billions? Paramount, Skydance just bought Paramount. That's the company that owns cbs. Well, there are reports, strong reports, I believe them, by the way, from sources I trust that Skydance, David Ellison and Paramount are now looking to buy Warner Brothers Discovery. Now, that includes all those movie studios and things like that, but it also includes cnn. Now, I've said on this program, and I've said it on my social media accounts a number of times since the beginning of this year, that I don't believe CNN will exist in any real form, in any form that we can really recognize by the end of this year. Well, now we're seeing how this is likely going to happen. I think that Paramount will likely buy Warner Brothers. They will fold what is left of CNN into what is left of CBS News and turn it into one entity. There'll still be some kind of CNN brand name on documentaries or some kind of streaming service. Sure. But CNN as a standalone channel, I think will not exist in not that long from now. I know no one is crying over that, but this is how it's going to happen. Watch out for it. It's an interesting story in media. Now getting back to the Fed, President Trump is asking an appeals court to uphold his firing of Fed Governor Lisa Cook, and he wants it done fast. Why does he want it fast? Because as I said, the Fed meeting is next week, September 17th and 18th. Now, we could actually have some drama at this thing. Usually the Fed meeting is boring, but I would not be shocked if Lisa Cook comes with the camera crew trying to get seated in that Fed meeting. Meanwhile, President Trump has his replacement, Stephen Myron, who could be confirmed by that time and he might want to have the same seat. What's Jerome Powell, the chair of the Fed, going to do? Tune in next week. I'll give you all the updates as they develop. Okay, ladies and gentlemen, start your engines. This is Moving America. Sponsored by ArtilleryTea Company ArtilleryTeaCo.com Use promo code LIBERTY for 20% off your order. Artillery Tea is all natural, whole leaf. The teabags are chemical free and each tea bag can be used twice. Artillery Tea Company is family and veteran, owned and operated and a portion of your purchase goes to help veteran and first responder charities. ArtilleryTea Co.com promo code Liberty for 20% off of your order. Well, those 300 or so South Korean illegal immigrants that they caught a little while ago at that Hyundai battery plant in Georgia, they're back in South Korea. They've been allowed to return home. No arrests, but they did send them home. Okay, but this may just be the beginning of what's going on here with foreign auto companies, primarily other companies too, who have plants here in this country. Got big tax breaks to bring them here. Had a big ceremony talking about all the American jobs they're going to create and then end up bringing their own people from their own countries in large numbers. Look, I understand you want to bring a few managers and some. I get it. But for middle of the line and line work, that's gotta be Americans, folks. Especially if we give you the tax breaks. Tom Holman, the boater czar, says this is probably just the beginning. I think there are other auto companies are gonna get caught with this bad situation because not only do they bring their own people over, they don't even bother to do the paperwork correctly. These are illegal aliens. I mean, if you're gonna do that, at least get your paperwork in place. This is something that could become a much bigger story in the coming weeks. Keep your eyes open for it. I certainly will. All right. Toyota says that it will start making two battery powered SUVs at its US plant in Kentucky. By the way, that might be another plant that gets raided if they don't have their paperwork in check. But anyway, they're going to make these electric vehicles in Kentucky. They will be in the models of the RAV4 and the Land Cruiser. So expect electric RAV4 and electric Land Cruiser or something like that to be made in Frankfort, Kentucky, hopefully by American citizens. And on and on down the line. However, Toya is going to stop the production of the Lexus ES sedan at that same Kentucky plant. So I guess that's how they're going to make room for this. Ford has launched a new ad campaign and I have to tell you I'm nervous about it because it's called Ready Set Ford and they say that these ad campaigns are going to be focusing more on lifestyles. To see that guy jogging there, he's driving a race car. I get it. But apparently they're going to be doing a little bit more of this. Showing video of people doing stuff like this and not enough of the cars and trucks. This worries me because you remember what happened with Jaguar at the end of last year and into this year with an ad that didn't show any cars and just a bunch of freaky people. I don't think Ford's going to show weird stuff. They're going to show some great American pastimes like this. That's great. And here they are showing the Bronco, but not enough. I want to see the car, I want to see the truck, I want to see the, I want to see the suv. That's just me. I have a feeling Ford might end up modifying this campaign to show a little bit more of their vehicles. You can tell me what you think in the Getter rumble and X chats and substack and stuff like that. Okay. And now I have a story for you in three parts. Are you ready? Part one. The Chinese made car that you see here, it's known as the MG3, was tested for use in Europe by the EU safety inspectors. Part 2. During that safety inspection, the MG3 had the first ever driver side seat belt failure in Euro crash test history. Hmm. Part three, the Euro inspectors still gave the car a four star crash rating. And seen. If you don't think that Chinese companies and Chinese government influence over our foreign countries and our country as well is strong and serious, then just read that story again. It had a driver's side seatbelt failure. I mean that's almost instant death on a head on collision, nothing to sneeze at and it still gets a four star rating. I can't believe they even had the guts to tell us that it failed in the test, but they still went ahead with the four star rating. Folks, this is politics and not safety. China has way too much influence and it's going to cost lives. It has already cost lives, plain and simple. Okay. Coming up, there are some updates for you on that North Carolina killing, that woman, the Ukrainian woman killed on the North Carolina commuter train. Going to tell you about that along with a guest from North Carolina who's about to join us. American Sunrise Early Edition. We'll be right back. It's Friday, September 12th. Here are this morning's top stories. A $100,000 reward is in place for information leading to the arrest of the assassin who murdered Charlie Kirk. The FBI has also released better photos of the person of interest in the case. Also, a video just released. The manhunt continues, but also continuing are the flurry of inappropriate responses and misplaced priorities in the wake of Charlie Kirk's assassination. From CBS's Nate Burleson to House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries and other media outlets, why can't so many Democrats and the mainstream media get it right? And speaking of getting it wrong, the mayor of Charlotte, North Carolina, fumbled her response to the murder of Irina Zyrutska, and now she's fumbling a chance to get it right when it comes to President Trump's call for the death penalty in the case. What would it cost the mayor to say she agrees? Nothing. And she still didn't do it right? American SUNRISE EARLY EDITION continues. Now. Welcome back to this half hour of AMERICAN SUNRISE EARLY edition. I'm Jake Novak with you on a no tie Friday, trying to keep our purposes here, continuing, doing what we do here despite all the tragedy we've been dealing with the atrocities in this country. And I appreciate all of you joining us again and commenting as you are very, very fired up, everyone, I'm sure you will be for days to come, if not years. Again, a lot of new developments in the Charlie Kirk assassination case. The manhunt is still ongoing. Video release going to get to that in a few minutes. Again, we will continue to update you. And I thank you for joining us for that. But joining me now is Republican North Carolina U.S. senate candidate Don Brown. And, sir, I understand you've made an official statement about the political response, but just the overall incident in Charlotte, the murder of the Ukrainian refugee and the incredible case of judicial malpractice that led to it. So tell us what you're saying about this and what you think needs to happen now, Sir.
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Jake, thanks for having me. It's been a tough week for us all. I've made two public statements on this, calling, first of all, calling for President Trump to bring the National Guard in to stabilize Charlotte's light rail system. This system was put in when Pat McCrory, our former Republican governor, was Republican mayor. But since the mid-90s, Charlotte has turned into a Democrat cesspool. They pulled officers off those trains. There is no security. This is a very dangerous situation. It's become a magnet, a cesspool for vagrants, this light rail system. I'm not a fan of light rail anyway, but President Trump should bring the National Guardian and really stabilize that train system for a period of 60 days. If Charlotte Mecklenburg cannot get a police officer on every train, every car, then they ought to just shut the entire light rail system down because it's become a vagrant, even just a magnet for vagrants. And the second thing is, in North Carolina, we have this unfortunate system where you have magistrate judges who don't even have to be lawyers. And I've stepped in and agreed with our Republican congressional delegation. This particular magistrate, who let this thug loose, who had been arrested 14 previous times, should resign or be removed from office. And those two actions, by bringing the National Guard and getting rid of this magistrate will be two steps in the right direction to at least stabilize the situation and make our folks here in Charlotte and North Carolina feel a little safer about riding this light rail if we're going to continue to operate it.
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Yeah. You know, I'm glad you focus on the light rail, because I can tell you, as someone who's lived in New York for about 40 years now and also is an expert on the history of New York, it is the police presence on the subways that very often is the catalyst one way or the other for crime in any city. When Mayor Wagner in the late 1950s pulled the cops off the trains and into the early 60s, that is when New York's descent into crime began, and it took 40 years to reverse that. This is very important. I don't. I know it's not as heavily trafficked and as heavily. You don't have that much heavy ridership of it compared to New York, but it doesn't matter. It serves as a magnet. It tells the criminal element in any given city that the game's on. Go for it, guys. And that is exactly what happened in Charlotte. You pointed that out pretty clearly. I want you to tell me about your governor, your governor, Josh Stein, and his response to this, talking about how, well, we just need more funding for cops. As you said, this guy was arrested 14 times. It seems like the cops have done their job. It's the problem of giving money to any state and expecting them to actually use it right, isn't it? That's why you're probably calling for the National Guard, so that we can skip that step.
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Here is the question of allocation. The current governor Josh Stein, the former governor Roy Cooper, who's now running for the Senate have been a disaster when it comes to crime. S has a Charlotte mayor, Val Wiles. They'll talk a good game, but then they won't allocate the resources that are needed. When the former Republican Mayor Pat McCrory There was a 6 to 5 Republican majority of the Charlotte City Council when I moved into the area after getting out of the Navy, of course it's gone to hell in a handbasket. Now it's 10 to one Democrat. And those Democrats have pulled resources away from protecting North Carolinians on this light rail system. Josh Stein is just a bunch of talk and very little action. And so was Roy Cooper. And this problem is the entire environment has been created by Democrats soft on crime policy. They love crime. You mentioned the mayor, Val Isles, earlier. She first was raised concern about the mental health, you know, incapacity of this murderer. She should be raising concern about the poor Ukrainian girl who came here and immigrated for the right reasons and found herself stabbed in the middle of the night. You know, I've got young daughters and this young lady is only 23 years old. And the Democrats soft on crime policy has fostered this environment. We just got to get tough on it. We just got to say no to it.
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A
Yeah, it's. I mean, and people should understand something. Charlotte is an important city in America. It's a banking center. We cannot allow our important big cities, no matter how blue they might be within a red state or blue within a blue state, to be governed by these people. It affects all of us. If we have the, if the leading banks in this country, so many of them are headquartered in Charlotte, can't be safe there. This is a very, very bad sentence for the rest of the country. So I want to get to your race, in particular your race for the US Senate, because the Republican National Committee has decided to back Michael Whatley instead of you. And I know a lot of people in North Carolina are very upset about this. They don't believe he is a enough of a supporter of President Trump's agenda. But more importantly, they don't think he has his other priorities as straight as well. What are you doing to fight back about this, sir?
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C
Well, first off, we're all over the state. We've been in over 50 counties. We'll be in five counties in the next three or four days. Our campaign has been on the ground since February. Whatley is late to the race. He did not enter the race when Tillis was in the race. Whatley endorsed Tillis. He used his platform as chair of the North County Republican Party to push the dangerous jab. Fauci's dangerous jab urged people to take it. You know, he's a. He's a very weak candidate. And I wouldn't say the RNC is endorsing him. I would say a very small handful of folks have misapplied their own rules to try to endorse them. Breaking their own rules to the Rule 11 of the Republican National Committee does not permit an endorsement. Yet the chair of North County Republican Party has twisted the rules to claim that it does. So both the, the. The chair of the North County Republican Party and the RNC have violated their own rules to try to push this guy through. They're afraid of me. So that's why they're taking the unprecedented step of trying to endorse early, because they know we're going to take him out if they don't try to take us out early. I never seen like it. They're so afraid of an insurgent candidate here that they're going to break their own rules. Democrats break rules. Republicans should not be breaking rules. And their North Carolina Republican Party is going to have to get this fixed.
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We're speaking to Don Brown. He's a Republican candidate for the U.S. senate in North Carolina. Thanks for reminding me. To mention the fact that of course this seat is open because Thom Tillis, the current Republican, at least that in name only, is the senator from that state. Yeah. Sir, I have to ask you. This is something that we hear and talk about a lot all over this country. Red states like North Carolina, Tennessee, even Florida to some degree, get a huge number of people from some of these blue states who are escaping the bad policies and the economic challenges of Democrat leadership. And then there's a worry that maybe because on social issues or other issues, they're still very liberal, they might really change the course of voting in those states. So what is your pitch? I mean, for people like me who might come to North Carolina one day, we. What do you tell people like that about how, you know, that we need to sort of understand the situation there and not bring New York's bad policies to your state?
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C
Well, it's been a topic of frustration for a number of years when you have folks who say we'll move from New York because they get tired of the taxing and spending policies up there that are basically very oppressive and an attack on freedom. And then come to a southern state in North Carolina, but then bring their own voting ways. You got, if you don't like where you're leaving, for heaven's sakes, don't vote for the same policies that cause you to leave to begin with. Now, having said that, Florida has shown that it's grown its Republican registration. I will give our state Republican Party credit and our workers and volunteers. North Carolina has increased Republican registration really rapidly since 2016. And by the end of this year, we expect Republican registration in this state to eclipse Democrat registration for the first time ever. Of course, the fastest growing group of registrants are folks who are registering independent. We gotta pay attention to those folks. A lot of those folks broke to the right in the last election. But just common sense tells you that tax and spend is going to oppress freedom. The power to government and the freedom of the individual are inversely proportional to one another. I said on the campaign trail and we love to have folks from New York come down, but we like Republicans to come down and please bring conservative voting patterns when you come down. Otherwise you're just replacing one problem with another.
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Yeah. And don't fall for the things that you fall for in New York. Some candidate who you don't like all their policies, but they say one thing about abortion or one thing about another issue that you think is more important. You know, look, it's not. It's just not as important as making sure you have property rights, that you're not taxed out of the way, out of, out of your life. And also that they leave criminals out of prison. I don't care what other social issue you think is more important. Putting people out on the streets who are going to kill innocent people has got to be priority one to stop. I wonder I only about at 30 seconds left, but I wonder if you can give me a little bit of an update on how things are going in western North Carolina. You know, this program and so many others watching what happened last year, the poor response by Joe Biden and Kamala Harris to it. How is that going? And are you trying to make that something to talk about in your campaign?
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C
1,000% is coming along. It's coming very slowly. You know, this storm came through September 27th. Joe Biden did not bring the military until October 3rd. I'm calling for a new unified command with the United States Military Disaster Response Command whereby we'd have a four star general or admiral with Chinook and black haul helicopters ready to go with generators and water and medicine so that on day one after a storm, whether it's western North Carolina or eastern North Carolina, anywhere in the country, we can get the military in there with supplies to save lives. We've got to have some meaningful change. And the Democrat response by Roy Cooper has been a disaster. President Trump put my opponent Whatley in charge of this. And the folks in western North Carolina will tell you not much has happened. It's a long, drawn out process. We're still suffering from Hurricane Matthew in the eastern part of North Carolina for several years ago where Democrats did not even allocate money, the Democrat governor money, millions were given to help eastern North Carolina. That money wasn't allocated, was spent on other things. And so it's been a disaster. We gotta be much, much better about how we respond to these things. And I think we will be going forward, but we gotta have some, some legislative action from the Congress to help us out.
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Yeah. Important lesson, whether it's hurricanes or 911 relief, cut out the middleman. We can't just be giving money to these middlemen who may not use the money properly and very often don't. Don Brown, thank you so much for joining us. I know you're going to be having a working weekend, but still have a good weekend. Thank you.
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C
Thank you, Jay.
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Appreciate it. Coming up, David Brody will join me. And in light of Charlie Kirk's assassination, David and I will have to resume our ongoing conversation about civil war in America. American SUNRISE EARLY edition. We'll be right back. This is going to become one of the more infamous places in America, kind of like Dealey Plaza in Dallas. This is where Charlie Kirk was assassinated. This is the college in Utah. We'll have to find out what the university's complicity in this is, if any. I'm not making any accusations. I'm just saying this is the place, folks. And I think it's going to become a place that we think about for a long time. Welcome back to AMERICAN SUNRISE EARLY edition. I'm Jake Novak. Thank you so much for joining us on all the platforms, especially Getter and Rumble and on X and on Substack. I'm certainly looking at your comments and you're fired up this morning. You were fired up yesterday. I know that's what Charlie Kirk would have wanted, but here's something I know that Charlie Kirk wouldn't have wanted and that is a real armed civil war in this country. David Brody and I have been talking about this probably three or Four times in just the last couple months about how we both don't want this to happen. And right now, to be clear, we're not dealing with a Confederate army and a Union army in battles like Manassas or Antietam or things like that. But does it matter if people are dying in America because of political differences and people are getting shot? Even though right now the preponderance of the shootings is going one way and you know which way it's going, still, this is to me what we saw, probably. And you know, David and I, I know you like history as well. This feels to me like the United States was from what I learned in school and read about in 1848 all the way through, I'd say maybe 1859, armed conflicts between pro slavers and anti slavers. Again, we don't have a match right now from conservative shootings, literally shooting liberals. But you understand where I'm going here and I don't want it to go here. But what's going to, what's going to stop it, David? You know, I have some ideas, but I'd like to hear yours. What we can do to stop this.
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Well, a couple of things. You mentioned 1848-1859. Here's one thing they didn't have back then, algorithms. And, you know, back. And I say that to simply say we have had both sides, let's be honest, both sides have gone down the rabbit hole. And I'm not necessarily saying it's dastardly. And let me explain that for a second, you and I, right, And we have algorithms as well. We get certain things fed into our inboxes that, that, you know, based on some of our preferences and choices on social media. I'm not saying obviously we act on it or have all this hate and vengeance and everything that's a mental illness issue. But the point is, is that we're all part of it. I mean, in other words, we all partake in it whether or not we know it or not. So that's just that. Look, here's the deal, Jake. We are in a pseudo civil war. Now, the question is, are we going to get rid of the word so pseudo and have it actually be an armed civil war? And yes, what happened to Charlie Kirk and what's happened as well in terms of political assassinations in the past is part of the armed issue. But the pseudo civil war I'm talking about, and you know this, Jake, we're in a cultural civil war, an ideological civil war, a geographical civil war, an informational civil war, a social media civil war. I can go down the list. I think I just did. And there's more. And so in answer to your question, Jake, I wish I knew. I wish I knew. I'm not going to give you the trite line that says it starts at the top with leadership. That's a bunch of crap. And the reason it's a bunch of crap is because our leaders are a bunch of crap. They're not doing anything. And by the way, let's be honest, we're talking about Republicans, we're talking about Democrats. I'm not trying to do a both sides situation here, but the truth of the matter is, is that neither side has a desire to tamp it down. Neither side wants to tamp it down. They don't. And the reason conservatives don't want, I say conservatives, the reason Republicans, I should say, don't want to tamp it down for there are a lot of reasons. One of the reasons is, is that they're frustrated and ticked off about what's going on in this country. But the question is, do conservatives and Democrats, liberals, do anybody have the discipline to actually step back and think about this? And we all have discipline and we step back for 48 hours and then next week, you know, it's going to be a whole different matter. So I think it's a spiritual situation, which we'll have to talk about some other time. But those are some of my initial thoughts.
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Well, certainly none of the. I don't see too many elected leaders that have the discipline. But you know, you talked about the top down thing. I agree with you. Talking top down is the wrong way. Every good change in America, from ending slavery to ending the Cold War to ending crime in places like New York City before it came back, came from the people. First up, don't let politicians take credit for what the people do. Let's do that again. Please join me at 9am and everyone else on American Sunrise the next two hours. This is an iHeart podcast.