American Sunrise Early Edition - September 15th, 2025

Summary

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Real America’s Voice – American Sunrise Early Edition

Date: September 15, 2025
Host: Jake Novak
Guests: Gerard Felitti (Lawfare Project), Emily Finn (RAV Contributor), John Reed (VA Lt. Gov. Candidate), David Brody (RAV Commentator)

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Episode Overview

This special Monday edition of American Sunrise Early Edition focuses intensely on the national fallout after the assassination of conservative activist Charlie Kirk. Host Jake Novak analyzes how the killing has shifted America’s political climate, especially among conservatives, and explores repercussions in legal, educational, and electoral spheres. The episode features deep-dive discussions on firings tied to public celebrations of Kirk’s death, the atmosphere on college campuses, implications for upcoming elections, and responses from both local and national leaders. There is ongoing emphasis on restoring “American values, freedom, and faith” as guiding principles for moving forward.

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Key Topics & Insights

1. The Aftermath of Charlie Kirk's Assassination

[03:07–04:38, 43:02–45:26]

• The episode opens with the nation in mourning and a call to “never give up the fight to getting America back on track.”
• Vigils and peaceful gatherings are happening nationwide. There’s a distinct change in mood described as “a different America.”
• The main concern is justice for Kirk and consequences for those suspected to have aided the assassin.
• Focus on rooting out those in sensitive public roles who “celebrated” Kirk’s death on social media.
  • Many already fired (“disturbingly long” list, especially among teachers and government employees).

Notable Quote:

“It just feels different in America, doesn’t it, as we begin this new week in the wake of the Charlie Kirk assassination, but also in the wake of a tremendous outpouring of peaceful, underlying peaceful response to his death.”
– Jake Novak [04:40]

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2. Legal and Social Fallout: Firings, Lawsuits, and Accountability

[06:13–09:46]
Jake Novak & Gerard Felitti discuss the legal ramifications for those cheering the assassination and the prospects for lawsuits over firings.

• Firings of Public Employees:
  • Celebrating murder not protected speech; justified firings unlikely to be reversed in court.
  • Unions expected to mount defenses, but legal precedent is against them.
  • Revealing role of citizen journalism in exposing offenders.

Notable Quote:

“Celebrating murder is not protected conduct... when you're celebrating homicide, that's not an employee. No one wants to work next to that person.”
– Gerard Felitti [06:13]

• Case Against the Accused and Others:

  • 22-year-old Tyler Robinson (“no cooperation with investigators”), speculation of co-conspirators.
  • Standard to prove conspiracy is high: must show shared intent to kill Kirk.
  • Favored approach: charge as “terrorism” or “conspiracy against rights.”

• Social Media & Civil Lawsuits:

  • Difficult to hold platforms like Discord liable unless active involvement is proven.
  • More traction for lawsuits against individuals who incited or “radicalized” Robinson than against tech companies.
  • Importance of discovery to uncover networks of indoctrination.

Notable Quote:

“It will be much more different if they go after people who incited this kid, who shared the motivation... Then you do have a better chance of seeing at least this go forward with litigation.”
– Gerard Felitti [09:05]

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3. Framing the Narrative: Motive, Misinformation, and Radicalization

[09:46–12:38]

• Host criticizes left-wing efforts to “flood the zone with confusion” about Robinson’s motives and background, comparing it to Holocaust denial.
• Concerns about attempts to shift blame and “victim blaming.”
• Core question: How was Robinson radicalized? Concern about teachers and social media’s influence.

Notable Quote:

“What was his exposure on social media? What... factors shaped a normal middle class kid... into someone who commits an act of political violence?”
– Gerard Felitti [11:04]

• Specific critique of Utah’s Governor for “undermining” the legal case with comments about Kirk’s “inflammatory” speech—deemed an unhelpful public statement but not detrimental to the case.

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4. The Crisis of Public Safety & Governance

[13:25–15:10, 43:02–54:31]

• President Trump sends National Guard to Memphis with local support; claims previous deployments have yielded results.
• Felitti defends legal authority and necessity of National Guard deployments to combat crime as a failure of progressive local policies.
• Jake Novak frames this as “addressing issues head-on” rather than “sitting back.”

Notable Quote:

“We've seen the consequences of progressive policies. Progressing policing and prosecutions meant that crime has skyrocketed... This is very much necessary.”
– Gerard Felitti [14:18]

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5. The Future of Youth Conservatism and Social Movements

[19:59–25:23]
Discussion with Emily Finn:

• Charlie Kirk’s impact on young conservatives and Gen Z.
• Mainstream media acknowledges Kirk’s role in shaping non-liberal youth.
• Attempts by Democrats to create a “counter-Kirk” (e.g., David Hogg)—deemed “cheap imitations” by Novak, though Finn praises Hogg’s independent thinking.
• Social media’s toxic culture: widespread celebration of Kirk’s death; calls for emphasizing peaceful activism and open conversation.
• Hope for the “legacy that Charlie leaves behind” to motivate youth participation regardless of political affiliation.

Notable Quote:

“He was extraordinarily unique... the impact that he was able to make in such a short amount of time... is a shame that he was taken from us so soon.”
– Emily Finn [21:42]

• Turning Point USA seen as giving a voice to the “silenced”; movement expected to expand by decentralizing, not seeking a single figurehead replacement.

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6. Economic, Technological, and Policy Updates

[30:26–40:01]
Jake Novak delivers rapid headlines:

• Federal Reserve drama: possibility of fired Governor Lisa Cook attempting to “crash” an interest rate meeting, causing market uncertainty.
• U.S.–South Korea tensions over Hyundai plant ICE raid and deportations.
• Penske Media sues Google over AI search scraping content, facing uphill battle despite earlier anti-monopoly rulings.
• Auto industry news: Dodge Ram scraps its full-size electric truck; rising auto loan delinquencies parallel a financial crisis; electric car safety issues with door electronics; German auto industry consolidation fears.
• Jake laments U.S. inaction on auto/tech regulation, referencing Chinese bans on dangerous e-car door designs.

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7. Election 2025: Virginia as a Bellwether Post-Assassination

[43:02–54:31]

Interview with John Reed (GOP candidate for VA Lt. Gov.)

• All communities, regardless of ideology, are now “awake” and wary.
• Reed brands the Left as vengeful and “corrupt”—“not Republicans like Charlie Kirk, who want discussion/debate... but people who want vengeance.”
• Virginia’s longstanding status as “ground zero” in the trans rights controversy, originating from the Loudoun County scandal.
• Reed, as an openly gay conservative, denounces the “trans movement” as unhealthy and Democrats as cynically exploiting civil rights terminology to destabilize society for socialism.
• Democrats are accused of hypocrisy: “masquerading as moderates,” now exposed by public reactions to Kirk’s assassination, especially among donors to Reed's Democratic opponent Ghazala Hashmi.
• Reed clarifies education policy: supporting parental choice, not eliminating public schools, accusing Hashmi of dishonesty and union subservience.

Notable Quotes:

“The trans movement is not a healthy movement. It is not good, it is not normal. And we are making a huge mistake culturally by mainstreaming this.”
– John Reed [47:34]

“Why are we locking children into failing systems? Ghazala Hashmi is not looking out for the kids. She's looking out for the teachers unions.”
– John Reed [52:22]

“It feels like people with political agenda since the time of the pagans till now are really into child sacrifice.”
– Jake Novak [54:02]

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8. Democratic Politics in the Post-Kirk America

[58:21–62:02]

Jake Novak & David Brody discuss:

• Kathy Hochul’s poorly-timed endorsement of Zoran Mamdani for NYC mayor, risking her own reelection prospects.
• Democratic candidates now forced to clarify positions on rising extremism; divided party looms.
• Brody predicts conservative unity and a lasting impact among the “biblical truth side.”
• Noted the peaceful character of conservative response: “no violence, just vigils.”

Notable Quotes:

“Will it endure? It'll endure on the conservative side... I don't believe that unity is possible when you have two divergent worldviews and spiritual outlooks.”
– David Brody [61:32]

“Notice the huge outpouring included no violence, just vigils.”
– Jake Novak [61:54]

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Memorable Moments & Quotes

• “Celebrating murder is not protected conduct... No one wants to work next to that person.” —Gerard Felitti [06:13]
• “The trans movement is not a healthy movement. It is not good, it is not normal.” —John Reed [47:34]
• “It just feels different in America, doesn’t it?” —Jake Novak [04:40]
• “He gave a voice to those people. And it continued to grow... there is no one to replace Charlie Kirk, but we all replace Charlie Kirk if we rise up together in the movement.” —Emily Finn [24:33]
• “It feels like people with political agenda... are really into child sacrifice.” —Jake Novak [54:02]
• “Will it endure? It'll endure on the conservative side... I don't believe that unity is possible when you have two divergent worldviews.” —David Brody [61:32]

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Notable Timestamps

• [03:07] – Immediate national reaction to Charlie Kirk’s assassination
• [04:38] – Introduction of Gerard Felitti on firings for public celebrations
• [06:13] – Legality and likelihood of reversal of firings for teachers/government workers
• [07:52] – Investigation status on accused and possible co-conspirators
• [09:05] – Section 230 and lawsuits against tech platforms/individuals
• [12:02] – Criticism of Utah Governor’s “inflammatory” remarks
• [13:25] – Trump’s National Guard actions and legal precedent
• [19:59] – Discussion of youth activism and legacy of Charlie Kirk
• [43:02] – Beginning of segment on changes in Virginia politics post-assassination
• [47:34] – John Reed addresses trans movement and educational choice
• [58:21] – Hochul’s endorsement controversy and Democratic Party divide
• [61:32] – Brody’s conclusion on the endurance of conservative unity

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Summary

In one of the most emotional and consequential episodes to date, host Jake Novak and his guests analyze America’s political and cultural climate after the assassination of Charlie Kirk. The show details efforts to hold accountable those publicly celebrating his death—especially in sensitive jobs—asserting that such firings are justified and will withstand legal scrutiny. The episode denounces misinformation about the killer’s motives, draws explicit lines between radicalization and institutional influences (particularly schools and social media), and frames the incident in a broader clash of American values.

The show spotlights the effects on youth conservatism, the challenge of replacing a movement leader, and the impulse for more decentralized activism. In the second half, focus shifts to Virginia’s pivotal election, ongoing education debates, and a bruising critique of left-wing identity politics and what guests perceive as the Democratic Party’s radical drift.

All discussions are underpinned by a new spirit of resolve and unity in the conservative movement—embodied by peaceful responses and renewed calls for faith and freedom—and a belief that the left is now exposed and politically vulnerable due to its public reaction to Kirk’s death.

This episode offers a visceral, unapologetic window into the mood of post-assassination conservative America, rallying listeners to vigilance, activism, and cultural self-defense.

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Transcript

[Jake Novak]

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[Jake Novak]

Edition, a new week begins in America. In a new America, you saw it everywhere this past weekend. Charlie Kirk's assassination has changed the attitudes of millions of Americans who lowered flags to have staff, attended vigils and have now vowed to never give up the fight to getting America back on track. Job number one is bringing his killer and anyone who may have helped him to justice. 22 year old Tyler Robinson is apparently not cooperating with the investigation, but others in his orbit are, and that may be all that's needed. Another focus right now is identifying the many people in sensitive jobs like teachers, doctors, soldiers and other government employees who have publicly celebrated Charlie Kirk's death on social media. Many of them have been fired, but the list of offenders is disturbingly long. In other news, Memphis is next. President Trump will send the National Guard to that city. And this time, the local leaders are welcoming the move right away. In New York, Governor Kathy Hochul decides to endorse Zoran Mamdani for mayor of New York City. Could that change next year's governor's race? American SUNRISE EARLY EDITION begins now. Welcome to AMERICAN SUNRISE EARLY edition, the show where faith, freedom and the values.

[Gerard Felitti]

That built this nation take center stage.

[Jake Novak]

Your good deeds and bad deeds, that's how we're gonna judge you. Join host Jake Novak as he breaks down the stories that matter. We will be letting the public know regularly what we have found. American SUNRISE EARLY Ed, your host, Jake Novak starts now. Good morning and welcome to this Monday here on AMERICAN SUNRISE EARLY edition. And it just feels different in America, doesn't it, as we begin this new week, the week in the wake of the Charlie Kirk assassination, but also in the wake of a tremendous outpouring of peaceful, underlying peaceful response to his death. So many people all over the country, including here in New York and so many other places in the country coming out for vigils and doing more than that, vowing to stand up and to continue the efforts that Charlie Kirk dedicated his life to. Joining us now is Gerard Felitti. He is the senior counsel at the Lawfare Project. And Gerard, let's talk about the numerous people getting fired, and a lot of them are government workers. In fact, a disturbingly large number of them are teachers who are getting fired for publicly celebrating. This isn't a private comment. They're not getting censored or going after. People aren't going after them because of things they said privately. These are people who proudly posted in very public forums their celebrations of the death of Charlie Kirk. You know the legal stuff. You know what's going to happen? Gerard? They're going to sue over this. How's that going to go and what's your take on that?

[Gerard Felitti]

Overall, of course they're going to sue for their disgusting conduct that rightly gets them fired. Celebrating murder is not protected conduct. It's not something that's discriminatory. When you get fired for that. Celebrating murder is something that is intrinsically so disturbing that it creates an environment at the workplace that you don't want to work with those people. So of course these teachers, these government workers, everyone else who's posting horrific things gets fired. And it's justifiably so. I don't see most of these lawsuits going anywhere. Of course the unions are going to fight this, but at the end of the day, when you're celebrating homicide, that's not an employee. No one wants to work next to that person.

[Jake Novak]

Yeah, I think. And again, I think it's amazing how many teachers are involved. And by the way, this has been citizen journalism that's been uncovering this. But again, I use the word uncovering advisedly. These are people who posted this stuff publicly. Remember that. Remember that. These people aren't being hounded. They aren't. No. People aren't knocking on their door trying to ask what they think. These people are doing it very publicly and proudly. Gerard. Now let's talk about the legal case against the alleged shooter, Tyler Robinson. Again, I say alleged because waiting. Apparently he's been clamming up and not talking to investigators at all. But I want to talk about not only the case against him, but the entities and people who may have aided him. This may not be the act of just one person. How much you can go after people who may have influenced him online. Again, we might use terrorism and organizations like ISIS as a template for this, but how do you expect to see this to go from a legal standpoint from here on in?

[Gerard Felitti]

From a legal standpoint, for him, it's fairly straightforward. The police is going to use the investigative tools that they have, the forensic evidence. They're going to track his movements, track his fingerprints. They're going to position him in such a way that it will be clear that he committed this act. So for him, it's straightforward. But for co conspirators, that's where it gets tricky. We have a lot of rumors and speculation that there were more people that may have been involved and supported him. And law enforcement is tracking all those down. Ultimately, to get a conviction, you need to show that they share the intent, that they had the awareness that this kid was going to assassinate Kirk and they were helping to further that goal. And that's a very high threshold. So the best chance that the government has actually is a terrorism case where they're looking at this as a broader conspiracy against rights, a broader conspiracy against the civil rights of Charlie Kirk and other individuals. And that's the way that they go after whoever may have been involved.

[Jake Novak]

What about a civil lawsuit? What about the family of Charlie Kirk or other foundations suing, let's say the Discord, I guess you could call it a social media platform or the Discord website or any other organization that may have encouraged this. Does that have a more. Have more traction? It may.

[Gerard Felitti]

It's hard to go after social media platforms. There's pretty much a good case law for them that says that they can't be held responsible for the content that's posted online without their active involvement. So a suit against Discord might not go anywhere unless you're alleging that they were actually actively involved. Now, it will be much more different if they go after people who incited this kid, who shared the motivation, who taught him how to hate, who basically gave him a loaded gun, metaphorically speaking, and pointed him in the direction of Charlie Kirk. Then you do have a better chance of seeing at least this go forward with litigation. An interesting discovery to see all the communications who was involved, the wide extent of this network of indoctrination and radicalization that led to this assassination.

[Jake Novak]

Gerard, there's also a concerted effort by some groups and some people who call themselves journalists to try to flood the zone with confusing information about Tyler Robinson. But as the New York Post reported, we do have evidence that does seem to make it clear what the motive was in this case or the fact that this person was involved with far leftist groups. The fact that this Tyler Robinson came from a Republican family is something that some, again, I think very dishonest. And either that or just people who aren't really that smart are seizing on in the hopes of making it sound like this was some kind of either right wing person who did it, which is outrageous, or someone who was checking a lot of boxes. It actually reminds me in a lot of ways, in a sickening way of Holocaust denial. You know, when you hear Holocaust denials, they always often say things like, well, the Nazis didn't do it, but I'm glad they did. I mean, in other words, they're saying he's not a leftist, but the leftists, I'm glad that they did it. I mean, this is just so annoying. I don't know how you approach this. Is it just noise? Can you just move past this? Or is there something that needs to be done from a messaging or maybe even legal standpoint to make it clear? Will we find out that the, you know, the clear intentions of this person at least because he's alive and didn't die in as they were pursuing him?

[Gerard Felitti]

Well, look, I think it's disgusting what they're doing, but there's also a good element of victim blaming. You're putting light on Charlie Kirk in a bad way and trying to justify. And this is what we're seeing when we started the segment with social media, with people posting that it's a good thing that he died. This is how disgusting the far left has gotten. Ultimately, I think with this kid, what you're looking at, this seems to be a normal middle class kid who had a decent upbringing. And the question, the real question is how was he radicalized? How was he influenced into this extremism, that he changed his views, he changed how he was brought up and committed these horrific acts? That's the real question that we need to look at. The teachers that are posting this stuff on social media, they're the ones who teach kids, they're the ones who are indoctrinating these values. What was his exposure on social media? What were all the different factors that shaped a normal middle class kid, by all accounts, with a normal middle class upbringing into becoming someone who commits an act of political violence? That's where we go from here. That's what we need to uncover and root out.

[Jake Novak]

Talking about rooting things out and getting ducks in a row, it doesn't seem to me like the governor of Utah helped anything yesterday. I think he went on cnn, he went on one of the mainstream media outlets and talked about how Charlie Kirk said some things that were very inflammatory. I mean, honestly, why would he say something like that to me? That undermines the case against this guy. I mean, I like that the governor said they're going to pursue the death penalty in this case. But the guy who seemed like he was gonna be some kind of a media star has already started to sound like he's hurting the case. That didn't help, did it?

[Gerard Felitti]

I don't think it hurt the case. Anya, to be fair, you can actually criticize people without killing them. I think that's what the governors kind of get at that. Even if you don't like what someone says. That's not an excuse for committing an act of political violence, of committing an act of assassination. So it may not have been the best thing to say, but on the other hand, I don't think it hurts the case. It just really shows that in America, we have disagreements, we don't need to love someone unconditionally. We can have feelings about them, but way short of committing an act of homicide. And I think that's what makes it troubling. We've forgotten. Kids have forgotten how to balance their emotions with their feelings, with reality. They commit acts without thinking that this is not the appropriate thing to do. So even if you don't like what someone says, you don't go out and kill them. The governor could have made the point better, but I don't think it hurts the case.

[Jake Novak]

Yeah, at least better messaging. Gerard Another key issue, and a legal issue as well, is President Trump's move to send National Guard troops to Memphis. Right now, I know this is a different issue. However, I do think this is a case of what we're talking about here is responding to problems that have long been festering, and we're talking about these long festering problems of kids being radicalized by their teachers and by the news media. This is a crime situation as well. Have you at the Lawfare Project been dealing with any issues here involved with the national guard deployment to D.C. and other issues similar to that? Because it just feels like a new America this morning. Obviously, this started a few weeks ago with the National Guard, but there seems to be more of a realization on the side of the right and also moderates, that some new approaches need to be taken to a real festering problem in America, both mentally and on the.

[Gerard Felitti]

Streets across America, whether it's dc, New York, Chicago or Memphis. We've seen the consequences of progressive policies. Progressing policing and prosecutions meant that crime has skyrocketed. Skyrocketed, and authorities are not doing anything about it. We support the use of the National Guard to quell the protests and the riots that have taken place on city streets, and quite frankly, to help law enforcement do their jobs. This is very much necessary. It's within President Trump's authority to do so legally, despite some bad court rulings in California, which are likely to be reversed on appeal. I think there's clear precedent for the president's authority to do this, and it's having an impact. Look at D.C. look how even the mayor in Washington, D.C. has said that his deployment of National Guard has made a big difference. President Trump is seizing this problem head on. He's doing what the local authorities are failing to do, which is mobilize and take action against crime.

[Jake Novak]

Yeah, I think that benevolent sitting back and expecting these things to get better, that's ended in America. So many millions of Americans, I think, learned that lesson in the last few days. Doesn't mean you have to get violent. Of course, that's not what we're talking about. We're talking, though, about addressing issues head on. Jarrett Felitti from the Lawfare Project, thank you so much for joining us.

[Gerard Felitti]

My pleasure. Thank you for having me.

[Jake Novak]

I want to alert the viewers to something very special here on Real America's Voice, coming up at noon. Some of you may have heard this, but I'm going to make sure you know about it now. At noon, Vice President J.D. vance from the White House will be doing live here on Real America's Voice, the Charlie Kirk Show. He will be hosting in Charlie's absence. Of course, there probably will be a lot of other very special hosts over the next few weeks, but this time it's going to be Vice President J.D. vance, and you can see that right here on Real America's Voice starting at noon. Also coming up, I have some other news for you. This could get really awkward. What will Jerome Powell do later this week if and when fired Fed Governor Lisa Lisa Cook tries to join the Fed meeting on interest rates? That meeting starts tomorrow. Does he know a good bouncer? And then getting back to the Charlie Kirk story, what will happen to the on campus conservative movement that Charlie Kirk created? Will universities even allow someone to try to take his place? Emily Finn and I will discuss that when American Sunrise Early Edition continues.

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[Jake Novak]

Welcome back to American Sunrise Early Edition. This is Monday. I'm Jake Novak. And don't forget. Again, as I mentioned just before the break, Vice President J.D. vance will be hosting a special edition of the Charlie Kirk Show. It's going to be live from the White House. You'll see it here on Real America's Voice at noon. Please don't miss it. I think there's going to be a lot of special guest hosts over the coming weeks. That's just my guess, but this is pretty special right here. Vice President J.D. vance so that'll be right here on Real America's Voice. Joining us now is Real. America's Voice contributor, Emily Finn. And Emily, even the mainstream media, as you see here in an article I'm going to show you from the ap, realizes that Charlie Kirk succeeded in so many in getting so many young college aged people to either become conservatives or Trump voters or just not being liberals. Now, of course, the article, you don't need to read it, it misconstrues a lot of where Charlie was coming from. But my point is by pointing to the article about how they even they knew that he was very, very effective. Well, it wasn't just the ap, Emily. We know that the Democrats saw what Charlie Kirk was doing over the years and tried to create their own Charlie Kirk. I think the best example of that, or there are no good examples, is David Hogg. You might remember him, and he was one of the survivors. Apparently. There's a lot of questions about how close he was to the actual shooter, but let's just say we know he was technically a survivor of the Parkland High School shooting in Florida years ago. He then went on to Harvard. They tried to make him a big, big official in the Democratic National Committee and then they ousted him anyway. He was very ineffective in many, many ways. But Emily, I mean, these cheap imitations, it just goes to show that you can't copy an original.

[Emily Finn]

You certainly can't copy Charlie Kirk. There was only one. He was extraordinarily unique. And the things that he was able to do, the impact that he was able to make in such a short amount of time, it is a shame that he was taken from us so soon. He would have done such incredible things for this country. But I must say, you know, kind of in defense of David Hogg a little bit here, the headlines I've been seeing about him recently, I think the DNC doesn't like him because he has a brain. He was pushing back and saying that he wants to get rid of the old generations of Democrats, the old party leadership, rid them out and make room for younger generations to come in with new ideas. That's why they didn't like him. I recently saw a headline where he responded to everything that happened with Charlie Kirk and the impact and the fallout of that. And he said that he's exhausted at this point in America, wasn't celebrating it. That should not be the standard. The standard should be that you're not celebrating it. But we've seen so much of that on social media. So at least he has a different perspective and like Charlie Kirk is strong enough to stand up for what he believes in, even if the party surrounding him and the people that are supporting him would pull their support away and not want to back him anymore. Like you said, Jake, Charlie is an original. There is only one Charlie Kirk. But I think that this moment is going to be so crucial for young people, especially in Gen Z, to rise up, get involved in politics. And truly, it doesn't matter if you're involved in the conservative movement or not. Whatever it is, making your voice heard and having those conversations in a peaceful way. I hope that's the legacy that Charlie leaves behind, because we need so much more of that in this country.

[Jake Novak]

Yeah. You know, it's interesting. It doesn't have to be whether you're gonna go vote or be a political activist, but just not being programmed in this way. I mean, we have had 20 years at least, of our children in our schools being told that the world's gonna end tomorrow because Mommy and Daddy are driving an suv. What do people think was gonna happen to that generation emotionally? Being told that in school week after week, let alone some of the other stuff that they're told. I see someone like David Hogg as someone who's been programmed from the beginning. Maybe I'll share some of your optimism. Maybe he's actually gonna have an awakening of his own. I'm not expecting him to become a conservative, and we don't need that. But what I do expect is that maybe there's a chance he'll start to realize how manipulated he's been from the beginning. I assume he's still reeling from that. Of course, another reason why they pushed him out, Emily, is because he's a white male and they needed to have some quote, unquote, diversity at the dnc. But you get the point, Emily, any thoughts about. But listen, this is a challenge also for Republicans, though, not being able to copy the original of Charlie Kirk. Maybe it isn't trying to get another leader like this one person, but more groups where people just in the grassroots don't feel like they have to take on that massive legacy on their own of a Charlie Kirk. Just show up to a couple of things and let things snowball from there.

[Emily Finn]

Well, that's what I think was so cool about Turning Point USA to begin with. Jake. You know, I had an opportunity very early on about five years ago. I was an ambassador for the organization. I went and I spoke at some of their events. What Charlie did was give a voice to people who felt like they were silenced, like they had no place in political discourse. He gave a voice to those people. And it continued to grow and grow and grow from the time that he was 18 and he founded this organization to the point that he was horrifically assassinated. And so I don't think that that movement, you know, with his voice being silenced, it's just going to let all of these other young people rise up and have their voices be amplified. I think that that's going to be the only thing moving forward. There is no one to replace Charlie Kirk, but we all replace Charlie Kirk with our rise up together in the movement.

[Jake Novak]

And there's plenty of opportunity with today's technology to make your voice heard. Emily Finn, thank you so much for joining us. We'll see you on American sunrise between 8 and 10am thank you so much.

[Emily Finn]

Thanks Jake.

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It's a live look at the White House this morning. Usually I talk about the state of the flags and whether they're flying or not, whether there's a breeze. But it's a different America this morning, isn't it? And the White House is going to be the locale for where we're going to be doing the Charlie Kirk show live at noon today. JD Vance will be the guest host. And that will be here on Real America's Voice. You really, really don't want to miss it. And again, just stay right here and you won't. Let's take a look where the markets will begin today. It's a different America, but commerce and our economy still move on, don't they? And it looks like we're going to have a higher open, a modestly higher open on the major indices. We see crude oil back down below 63 bucks a barrel and gold still very close to that $3,700 per ounce level. Let's take a look at Bitcoin because it has been slowly and surely recovering. Here we are again now at $115,000 level. We got below 110 just a little while ago, but there we are now at 115. Hey, don't you hate it when you throw a party and you don't know how many people exactly are going to be showing up? Well, tomorrow is the big day when the Fed open committee, it's called the Open Market Committee, by the way, that's the committee that gets together to vote on interest rates. They're most likely gonna decide to cut interest rates. That drama really not that high. We kind of know that's going to happen. The drama is what if Lisa Cook shows up and asked Jerome Powell over here, hey, my firing has been upheld for now. You got to let me in on this meeting. I demand to show up. And if she shows up with the camera crew, don't be surprised. That meeting is tomorrow. It's a two day meeting. There'll be two days to decide this. I don't know how this is going to go. This could be a very, very embarrassing. It could be just very disturbing and distracting. We'll see what happens. Again, both the Trump administration and Lisa Cook's lawyers are asking for a quick resolution from the courts to get this decided by tomorrow so we don't have this kind of awkward situation. But don't count on it. I think the courts can move quickly sometimes. I don't know how motivated they are to do it in this case. This could rattle the markets and hurt the economy, though. They need to make this decision. All right, I'm confused here about this. Next story. So I'll tell you, and maybe you can explain it to me. US Deputy Secretary of State Christopher Landau has just expressed regret. In other words, he's kind of apologized to the South Korean government over that recent detention and deportation. They'll call it deportation. They just, I guess they sent them back. It's not officially a deportation of the hundreds of illegal alien South Korean workers who were working at that Hyundai plan in Georgia that was raided by ice. I don't understand why we're apologizing to South Korea over this. Secretary Landau, South Korea brought in these people, promised to hire Americans. Instead, they brought in these people, and they didn't bother to even get their paperwork straight. I mean, at least do that. I'm not sure why we're saying we're sorry to South Korea over that. But, hey, I'm not an appointed diplomat of the US Government, so maybe he got orders to do it. I don't know. But that did not seem like the best move. Okay, here's a new and interesting challenge to AI, and it's coming from the parent company of Rolling Stone magazine and the Hollywood Reporter. It's called Penske Media. That's the company that owns those two entities. It's filed an antitrust lawsuit against Google in a federal court. It says that the Google AI search content basically steals the content that's in Rolling Stone and Hollywood Reporter, both current and past, and doesn't give it any attribution, and it's hurting its own Internet search traffic. Now, the judge that they filed this case who's going to hear this case is the same judge who ruled that Google is indeed a monopoly. That's good news. But the bad news is that same judge just basically decided on a very soft punishment for Google earlier this month. You might remember when that happened earlier this month, and I reported on it here. So it's a little bit of a mixed bag. Of course, Google, as I've often said, is basically the only real publishing company in the world right now that is getting challenged by other AI companies. So we'll see if that continues. 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It's Monday, September 15th. Here are today's top stories. A new week begins in America. You saw it everywhere. It's a different America. Charlie Kirk's assassination has changed the attitudes of millions of Americans who lowered flags to half staff, attended vigils and have now vowed to never give up the fight to getting America back on track. Job number one is bringing his killer and anyone who may have helped him to justice. The 22 year old trigger man is apparently not cooperating with the investigation, but others in his orbit are. And maybe that's all that's needed for now. Now, how will voters respond? Will the changes in America since last week shake up the big races in New Jersey and Virginia coming up in just about a month and a half? And in New York, Governor Kathy Hochul decides to endorse Zoran Mamdani for mayor of New York City. Could that change next year's governor's race in the Big Apple? American SUNRISE EARLY EDITION continues. Now. Welcome back. Again, as I said at the beginning of this program, and I continue to say, it feels like a different America this Monday, doesn't it, in the wake of the Charlie Kirk assassination, the way that people have been responding peacefully, I should say, at least the people who have learned the right lesson from this incident, that's for sure. And you just have to wonder how this is going to change. Maybe if it's just the tone for a few days, that's not really worth noting, if it changes the way people act and understand how things are really are right now politically and culturally in this country, then I think we're gonna have a change in America for more than just the next few days. Joining us now is Virginia Republican lieutenant governor candidate John Reed. He checks in with us every couple of weeks to tell us about how things have been going in Virginia. I've been trying to bang the table about the selection of Virginia and how important it is for a lot of reasons. Thankfully, since I started doing that, although it's not my, it's not because of me, the polls have tightened. And I believe that, John, you've got a lead in the polls right now over your opponent. But I have to ask you first, before we get into the nitty gritty of your campaign, how was it campaigning this weekend with the, with the change in this country since Charlie Kirk's death. I'm sure you felt it. It must have been powerful palatable.

[John Reed]

Yeah, I was all over the state today in some blue areas, some Democrat strongholds, and in some really, really red Republican areas. And everybody knows what happened here. It was revelatory. A lot of people saying, hey, watch your back, be careful. So I think there's been this awakening amongst people who aren't regularly following politics that things have deteriorated in the country. You know, it's easy to get caught up with taking your kids to soccer and making sure you pay your bills and not pay close attention to the body politic. But something is corrupt here. And I will be so bold as to say that it's not Republicans like Charlie Kirk who want to sit and discuss and debate issues. It's people who want to take vengeance against their political enemies. And I think that it is reasonable to make the list of attacks and vitriol. And it has a D behind its name, unfortunately.

[Jake Novak]

Yeah, we're going to get into some of that in a second about the people who've been publicly celebrating. But, John, I want to talk about this particular to Virginia, because this is something that I think has been festering in the country. We saw this in Minneapolis. We keep seeing, and we saw it in Nashville. We've seen it in so many other places. I think the fact that the alleged shooter, based on good reporting, because there's been some lousy and dishonest reporting, but the good reporting out of this case is telling us that the alleged shooter in this case had a partner who was going through the trans process, that maybe something was written on the shell casings, et cetera, et cetera. And when you talk transgender and you talk about politics, you know, Virginia has been for a while ground zero in that debate, starting in 2021 with Loudoun County. I don't expect you to try to take, quote, take advantage of this situation, but you will be talking to voters today and throughout the rest of the campaign who are very, very familiar with the issues surrounding the transgender. I don't even call it a movement. I think it's just a cynical use of this issue by Democrat politicians to get people fired up. And in this case, they got someone very fired up. Virginia knows a lot about this, doesn't it?

[John Reed]

This has been ground zero. You know, four years ago, Glenn Youngkin was elected governor primarily because a trans. Well, a biological boy pretended to be a girl and went and raped a girl. The school system then moved him to another school, and he did it again. Then they tried to cover it up, and the Democrats never acknowledged what was going on. That's why Glenn Youngkin, the Republican, got elected governor here. Now, I'm in a unique situation as the first openly gay candidate from either party, Republican or Democrat, to be running statewide. And one of the things that motivated me to run is to tell the truth about this. The trans movement is not a healthy movement. It is not good, it is not normal. And we are making a huge mistake culturally by mainstreaming this. And to your point, Jake, I think the Democrats are exploiting this issue because they needed a new civil rights movement that they could sucker people into becoming a part of. And I have standing to talk about this issue. I have been talking about it for years, in the last year on the campaign trail. And I think what we're seeing with this violence, which is very different from any other civil rights movement that we've witnessed, at least in my lifetime, is that Virginians are going to reject this kind of attitude. It doesn't make sense to structure your society around something that's not factually true and it's culturally corrosive. And I have to tell you, I think that's why the Democrats are doing this. They're trying to weaken the structure of the society so they can replace it with something that they want, namely a socialist society.

[Jake Novak]

Yeah, well, I mean, civil rights movement is one thing, but it feels like they're building an army of malcontents. I mean, that's. These people are radicalized. They're very, very disturbed in many cases. And again, with children and young people. This is, again, even in Europe, and they're not right wingers in Europe. Even Europe, they have banned this kind of ideology. And more importantly, they have banned the chemical and surgical quote treatment. I hate using that word on minors. This is what happens. They've created a violent class. John, one of the donors to your opponent, Ghazala Hashmi, is one of the people who publicly celebrated the death of Charlie Kirk. They're trying to scrub their association with that donor. But, you know, I have to tell you, and I know you know already there's gonna be a lot more cases like this between Hashmi and Abigail Spamberger, who's at the top of the ticket running for governor. I'm gonna. I'm gonna guess there's gonna be more than a dozen of their donors or people close to them who are gonna get caught having done this.

[John Reed]

Yeah, the donor list is extraordinary. The person who defended Ghazala Hashmi, my Democrat opponent, when she as chair of the Senate Committee on Education, was supposedly having a hearing about protecting students on campus. One would have thought it would have been the Jewish students who were constantly attacked on Virginia's campuses. But instead, she excluded all the Jews. Guess who rushed to her defense? The same woman who gave money to the campaign. The same woman who is now having to resign from the school board because she celebrated Gazala Charlie Kirk's death. I'll tell you, this is revealing because the Democrats have done a pretty good job of pretending to be mainstream, normal, thoughtful people. And this has revealed that a lot of the activists and a lot of the elected officials and the people who are seeking office are anything but. They are radical. They're masquerading as moderates, and they're moments that reveal who we all are. And this assassination and what has occurred afterwards has revealed that a lot of these Virginia Democrats are not the moderates they're claiming. And I'm hoping that Virginia voters are paying attention and will make another choice, primarily choose Republicans like me who want to be reasonable and responsible and fair if they go to the Capitol in January.

[Jake Novak]

Yeah, I don't think that Democrats understand how fatal this is going to be for their political careers, that so many of them so very publicly celebrated this assassination. And this tragedy atrocity is really the better word for it. These are the same people who tried to make anyone who didn't make a huge statement against January 6 and try to end their political careers for that. This is an interesting situation that we're gonna basically hoist them on their own petard. Finally, John, I saw the other day that Hashmi, your opponent for the lieutenant governors race, posted that you want to shut down all public schools. I'm going to give you a free forum here to respond to that accusation.

[John Reed]

Yeah, well, she made that assertion while she was in a secret press conference. You know, I was a TV reporter for 10 years, and I've been in the media for almost 30 years. I'm unfamiliar with the concept of having secret press conferences where you have to RSVP to find out where it is. So this is a woman who doesn't want to campaign in public, but she's saying that I want to do something to hurt the public education. My dad was a public school principal. My mother was a public school teacher. I'm just the only person who's got the guts to point out the truth. The system is not serving the students. Well. The current system of government schools is not taking care of families, and we need to come up with other options. That give people the latitude to say the school across the street stinks and is terrible. I want to send my kids somewhere else. And Ghazala Hashmi has done everything she can in the years she's been in the Senate to shut down and stop options. I'm trying to create options. Look, if you've got a great public school in your neighborhood, that's amazing, good for you. But we have to admit, if we're being honest, there are a lot of people who are stuck in places where the schools are terrible. And I want to create options for them to take some of the money they pay in taxes and go to a church school or go to a neighborhood school or hire tutors to together with other families in the neighborhood. Why are we locking children into failing systems? Ghazala Hashmi is not looking out for the kids. She's looking out for the teachers unions. And I'm going to hold her accountable for her failures over the last six years. And she can try to spend it any way she wants. She's not being honest.

[Jake Novak]

You know, sadly, you could say that the theme of our discussion this morning has been child sacrifice. Whether it's pushing children to get surgery or chemicals in their body or basically allowing them to really die on the vine educationally in a school, it seems like people with political agenda since the time of the pagans till now are really into child sacrifice. I wish I could put it another way, but that's what it is. John Reed, thank you so much for joining us. I know that early voting starts on Friday, so we'll be checking back in with you as the campaign goes along. Thank you.

[John Reed]

Thanks for having me. I always appreciate it.

[Jake Novak]

Coming up, other news keeps rolling on, but we're going to have to talk about it. New York Governor Kathy Hochul deciding to endorse Zoran Mamdani in a hand wringing editorial talking about it. She's not fooling anyone. And maybe, maybe, maybe she just turned a blind eye to what's going on in America, especially since the Charlie Kirk assassination. David Brody and I will talk about that in American Sunrise. Early EDITION comes right back.

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That'S a live look at the White House today And of course, today, the White House will be the spot where we will be going live here at Real America's Voice at noon, very special program at noon. It'll be Vice President J.D. vance hosting live, guest hosting, the Charlie Kirk Show. I think there's gonna be some interesting guest hosts within the coming weeks, but this is a pretty big one in the Vice President United States. Of course, you know, Vice President Vance and Charlie Kirk were very close. They had a lot of professional work together over the years. So this could be a very, very, very special show. I'm sure it will be. Joining me right now is David Brody. And David, we, of course, have other news today, but I don't think it's necessarily completely out of the context of the Charlie Kirk assassination and the changed America that we're in. I think if there's one person who has a tin ear, maybe the tinnest ear in all of politics I've ever seen, and it's New York Governor Kathy Hochul. This is someone who has missed opportunities so many times in the last couple of years to improve her own popularity and more importantly, govern better. Yesterday of all days, she decides to come out with a decision to endorse Zoran Mamdani for mayor of New York. Now, remember, Kathy Hochul is up for reelection next year. A lot of people think this will undermine her campaign in a big way. But, you know, if I were her, and again, I'm the unemployable political consultant, remember, David, I give good advice. So that. That's why I don't work as a political consultant. You have to give bad advice to get hired in that job. I would have told her, at least wait a few days. Because right now there are so many Americans, including moderate Americans, who are pushing back on the kind of leftist extremism that Zoran Mamdani has been spouting since day one.

[David Brody]

Yeah, the timing, obviously not great, but let's be honest, any sort of timing at this point would probably be bad for Hochul. As you know, she almost lost to Lee Zelda. And what, she got like, 53 of the vote the last time around. So, I mean, if she got 53, then, and look how much the tide has turned, especially in her state in New York, then you endorse Mom Donnie. She could be in big trouble. It's interesting the. The op ed that she wrote. You know how normally you write op eds where, like, I agree with this person on this position, on this position, on this position. Okay, so she started the op ed with. He agrees with me on the police, you know, cracking down on folks there on the subway getting out of hand. Like, he agreed. And then I'm waiting for the next paragraph where he agreed and it didn't happen. Instead, she started talking about combating antisemitism. And I'm waiting for he agreed. No, he didn't. Then he went. So it just went down the list. I'm like, oh, gosh, this is not good. So. But this is what every Democrat, if you think about it, obviously, is gonna be on the spot and face with, whether it be New York or otherwise. It's gonna be every single Democrat around the country will have to talk about or decide. Are you with mom, dummy or not. And that puts the Democrats in a big time bind.

[Jake Novak]

Yeah. You know, we just have like 30 seconds left. But David, I just wondering, you know, again, I keep saying throughout this program, it feels like a changed America this morning. I wonder if you're feeling the same thing and whether you think you want to 100%.

[David Brody]

I wish I had about seven and a half minutes to talk about this. Will it endure? It'll endure on the conservative side. And I say the conservative side, the biblical truth side, that's the truth of the matter. Will, I don't believe that unity is possible when you have two different divergent worldviews and two different spiritual outlooks. So that's how I truly feel about it.

[Jake Novak]

Yeah. But notice the huge outpouring included. No violence, just vigils. That's right.

[David Brody]

They wanted people to go into church instead. Isn't it interesting?

[Jake Novak]

That's right. All right, join us for American Sunrise. That's next. See you soon.

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