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Wherever you get your podcasts that's a live look at Windsor Castle on the outskirts of London, where President Trump is set to arrive along with First Lady Melania Trump. They'll be greeted by King Charles, Queen Consort Camilla, Princess Kate and Prince William. Also, big day for the president. You'll see it here on American Sunrise. Meanwhile, back in the United States, Utah prosecutors have unveiled a long list of charges against Tyler Robinson. And they reveal a lot of the damning evidence connecting him directly to the murder of Charlie Kirk. And notice has been served. The state will pursue the death penalty. FBI Director Kash Patel revealed that many other suspects are being investigated for possibly playing a role in Charlie Kirk's killing. But what most people will remember is how contentious the Senate hearing was with strong words from all sides in another high profile murder case. A judge has thrown out the terrorism charges against Luigi Mangione, greatly reducing the chances that he will ever face the death penalty for gunning down a health insurance CEO on the sidewalks of New York last year. And even more disturbingly, the number of Mangion's leftist cheerleaders appears to be growing. Speaking of terrorism, Israel says its campaign inside Gaza City to clear out the rest of Hamas could take a few months. And Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu says he'll meet with President Trump again at the end of this month. And it turns out Joe Biden is having trouble getting hired these days. His speaking engagement calendar is empty as corporate America shows no interest. Maybe Hunter can teach him how to paint. American Sunrise EARLY EDITION begins now.
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Welcome everybody, to this Wednesday here in American Sunrise EARLY edition, a special edition because we've got some breaking news unfolding right as we begin the program. President Trump and first Lady Melania Trump are going to arrive at Windsor Castle. They'll be greeted there by King Charles III and Queen Camilla. Also Prince William, the Prince of Wales, the Princess of Wales, Kate will be there as well. This is an amazing just sign of the pomp and circumstance that really dots the every state visit to the UK President Trump during his first term had an official state visit to the UK as you see there. There's the king arriving. The queen went into Windsor Castle. This is Windsor Castle for those of you who are Wondering. Not Buckingham Palace, Windsor Castle, actually the favored residence of this particular royal family. Both Queen Elizabeth II and now her son, King Charles III very much prefer this residence. They don't usually stay there for long periods, but they're there for holidays and other gatherings. And for those of you looking up your history, Windsor Castle, built in the year 1070 by William the Conqueror. With that kind of an old house, good luck finding replacement parts at Home Depot. No, just kidding. But anyway, it is, it was really built in 1070 and that's what we're looking at right now. And President Trump and Melania Trump, the first lady will be there pretty soon. All right. Joining us now to talk about our big news here in the United States. We'll be watching this, of course, and go to it as soon as the president arrives. Joining us now to talk about our news here in the United States, and you know what that is, is Oklahoma schools chief Ryan Walters. And Ryan, this is the first time you've joined us since the assassination of Charlie Kirk and that horrific news. And we really heard a litany of very clear but disturbing evidence against the 22 year old suspect in this case. I was just wondering what's been going through your mind as someone who deals with people around this age. I mean, you're the school's chief of the state of Oklahoma. That includes all the way up through college. I imagine when you see that these shooters and that was the case in some of our other incidents recently are either college age or young people, I can only imagine what goes through someone like you who's, who works with this kind of with these young people all the time.
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Yeah. You know, the first thing is, you know, Charlie, Charlie was a friend, got to know Charlie over the last six years and just an incredible American hero that has inspired this generation. And so, you know, in the aftermath of this and kind of watching this play out, as you find out more about the sugar and you find out more about that ideology, it's so stark to see. Charlie was inspiring hope, he was inspiring all of this empowerment for young people through knowledge, through critical thinking, through understanding. And so there's this unbelievable potential there for young people. And then on the other side, you have this terrible evil individual that took his life, that was a young person that gave in to evil And a warped ideology that we are seeing so many times has such a terrible end to it. And you know, and I think as we continue to find out more, it tells us how important it is that the next generation is getting a good education that we are looking out for them, that we're making sure that we are addressing the issues that is coming from the radical left, that the radical left is absolutely filling young people's heads with absolute nonsense. A radicalization that is ending in very dangerous ways. This has to be addressed and needs to be addressed very quickly.
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Thank you. Good morning. Here at about 12:20 here local time, you'll have President Trump arrive. And as you can see, what a beautiful site this is. You guys were kind of going over the history of this castle and, and just from a historical perspective and, and take a look at that. I mean, it's. It doesn't get any more iconic than this, but in regards to some of the coverage, I dipped on a little bit of the local news here, and yes, there was some protest over the weekend and a little bit that I saw that were also happening, you know, yesterday. But in all fairness, there was a lot of support for President Trump to be here as well. So, ob not everybody can agree on things, but as you can see today, they have simply rolled out the red carpet for President Trump and Melania as well.
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Brian, it looks like, you know, based on the way the soldiers are standing there, that it looks, you know, the guard is standing there that the president and the first lady could really arrive at any minute there. I mean, are we looking at an imminent arrival right now?
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I have Brian Walters here, he's the school's chief of the state of Oklahoma, and we were talking about the situation in here in the United States, the radicalization of the young man accused of. And there's a lot of evidence, as we saw yesterday, of assassinating Charlie Kirk. Brian, when I was talking about, I don't know if you saw the video on Saturday of that massive rally in Britain that was not A protest against President Trump. That was a march really, in honor of free speech. And there was a, there was a lot of, there were a lot of tributes to Charlie Kirk at that event. In your short time since you've just, you've touched down in Great Britain, have there been people talking about it with you and things like that? Oh, we lost, Brian. All right, Ryan Walters. This is the modern technology and way things work. But let's talk to you about that, Ryan, because again, the reason why I booked you on the program this morning is because I wanted to talk about that radicalization. We know that some of this stuff does often happen in the schools, in the colleges, and of course you have been made very famous in this country, Ryan, for trying to stop that kind of stuff, or at least if it's happening, to stop it from continuing or stop it from starting in the first place in Oklahoma. You know how this can happen, don't you?
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Yeah, unfortunately we see this a lot. And what we see, even in red states, you have seen the radical left get into the classroom room, fill kids heads with lies, indoctrinate them. And again, you know, you start looking at the, what they did to Charlie and you go, listen, people had convinced this individual that Charlie was a Nazi, a fascist, had to be taken down. You start listening to what they say, you start listening to, well, you know, they tell him that Charlie wants trans people dead. That's not true. Did you ever listen to Charlie Kirk talk? Charlie Kirk wanted them to know the truth, wanted them to know the things that could actually lead to a successful life and lead to hope and shared his faith openly with them. But what you see are these disgusting lies and indoctrination on the left send young people down a terrible road where unfortunately, so many times they end in tragedy. Which is why we cannot back down from this fight for the hearts and minds of our young people to get them back on track. The future will be very, very dark if we do not win that fight and make sure that our young people understand the things that made this country great, the things that make life great, things that are true. That's where education's gotta be focused.
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How is the screening process going? You started the screening process for people coming from other states. I assume that people who are first time teachers in Oklahoma also have to go through some sort of screening to make sure that really it isn't so much the screening to me as just letting them know, here are the rules. I know a lot of people talk about how the two things you should never Hear from your teacher are gossip and politics. I don't think I ever really knew the politics of any one of my teachers, K through 12, except for one, but that was in a political science class and she was just kind of being honest with us and didn't try to indoctrinate us. So how is that going? How's it going? Because you're trying something openly that no one has really tried before.
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I mean, it's been tremendous. We launched our Prager University America first test to make sure that our teachers are actually going to teach our standards and not try to indoctrinate our kids. We had over 18,000 people sign up to take their teacher certification test in 72 hours. It was tremendous. So, yeah, we're coming to those applicants where they're taking the next steps moving forward. So again, it's been a record teacher recruitment for us because again, we saw so many people all over the country go, hey, if you're getting back to the basics in education, Oklahoma, we want to be a part of that. And so it's been very exciting. And then I couldn't agree with you more that, listen, what we've got to do is get back to what should be common sense for both sides. We're going to focus on academics. We're not going to push a left wing political agenda on you. We're going to focus on math, reading, history and science. And again, the more that we do that, the more our schools get back on track, the more the parents have confidence in the schools and the more successful the kids will be. But, you know, we're absolutely not tolerating these teachers that were glorifying the death of Charlie Kirk. We are pulling their certificates. They won't be teaching in Oklahoma. We're not going to allow those kind of radicalized folks in the classroom. And every state should be doing that. I mean, left, right, Senator, you should agree, glorifying the death of an individual that stood for freedom of speech. We should be able to agree that that is unacceptable. Shouldn't be around our kids. Our parents have demanded it. We don't want a teacher teaching our kids that's out there saying stuff like that. And so we will be enforcing that and making sure that those individuals will no longer be in Oklahoma classrooms.
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Brian Walters, thank you so much for joining us. You have perfect timing because you're watching our live shot right now. Marine One, which was brought over to the UK for President Trump, is landing on the grounds of Windsor Castle right now. An interesting moment. You know, there hasn't been a king of the United Kingdom since 1952. And now we have a new king in, King Charles iii. And he will be greeting President Trump for the first time as king. And you're watching that live. A good little Lesson for your K12 students, I think today. Ryan, thank you so much for joining us. We'll speak to you again real soon. All right. We're going to go to break and come right back. And hopefully when we come right back, we'll be seeing President Trump emerging from Marine One. This is American Sunrise early edition. Thanks for watching.
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We may have gotten rid of the monarchy in this country with the Revolutionary War, but we still have pomp and circumstance, as you can see. And President Trump will emerge in just a moment. And coming out the back are some of the security officials there. A little bit about Windsor Castle. It was built in 1070 by William the Conqueror. It's gone through many different renovations and additions since. And it was not built as a fun house. It was built as a military installation, as many of the castles are in the British monarchy, or at least originally were. And again, as I said, very much the favored residence of Queen Elizabeth ii, who never lived there permanently but would spend holidays and long visits there. There you see Prince William and Princess Kate. Prince William, the Prince of Wales, Princess Kate, the Princess of Wales. They will be the first to greet the president as he comes out there, as you see. And they walk all the way to Marine One and they will greet the president and Melania Trump. Prince William and Princess Kate. Doing more, I think, of the official appearances for the royal family than you've seen from previous princes of Wales and princesses of Wales in the past. This has a lot to do with King Charles and his health. Apparently, he's in decent health at the moment, but he is suffering from different forms of cancer. And it does feel like Prince William is being asked to be a little bit more front and center with these official visits and greetings. As you're seeing, however, as they walk towards Windsor Castle right now, King Charles and Queen Camilla will greet them there. I guess it is the protocol in Great Britain for the monarch not to go all the way out to the car or the chopper or the airplane. That's something that the Prince of Wales and the Princess of Wales do. But when you are visiting one of the royal residences, the king and the queen are going to stand at the entrance there and allow you to walk to them. And you show that deference when you're in a foreign country. And there you go. There you see King Charles extending his hand to President Trump. Let's listen in now. If you're waiting for some kind of an official statement or news conference or talk to the news reporters, that won't happen here. They will greet each other. They'll greet some of the people probably there. That's probably the dean of Windsor Castle, someone who runs the castle there. As I said, the the royal family does not live permanently at Windsor Castle. Their permanent residence is still Buckingham Palace. They're very much often on the move. But Windsor Castle for this king, King Charles iii, and for his mother, the late Queen Elizabeth ii, is they're really their favorite residence. That's where they are very often on holidays. And for these kinds of appearances, usually for their state visit. If you're visiting the King or Queen and is an official state visit, Windsor Castle will be at least one of the locales that you visit. And that's what's happening here. Last night, President Trump and Melania Trump stayed at Winfield House, which is at the heart of central London, in a park in the central, in the center of London. And that's where they were last night. Interesting that they used Marine One inside a foreign nation instead of a motorcade. That's the kind of strong relationship we have. As you see Prince William there, this is, this is a pool shot. So we're seeing in the foreground, Queen Camilla and Melania Trump and Princess Kate all speaking to each other there in the foreground. The gentlemen are in a different group. Doesn't that always happen? They kind of split up by boy and girl. But you see Prince William, President Trump is being blocked by Kate Middleton there, Princess of Wales and the King, King Charles there on the right. Let's see if they. I don't think they're going to say anything to the news reporters who were told it is going to happen. And of course, you see now the pomp and circumstance, the guards marching in front of the King and the President. We understand there's going to be a flyover of F35s at some point. Don't know exactly when that will happen, but when it happens, you'll know it. You'll hear them. And right now, this is the official meet and greet moment. And then we're going to pull out. This is the pool camera, by the way, for those of you wondering why you're seeing these shots here you have the official guard of Windsor Castle. Each one of the royal castles has its own permanent guard in addition to the guards that travel. I'm not even talking about like secret service. I'm talking about military guard in the official uniforms. There's also one that travels with the monarch as well. And you know about President Trump and beautiful large properties. He loves those. I wonder if he's making any jokes about what the estimated appraisal value on Windsor Castle would be built in 1070. Again, went through many renovations, starting as a military installation meant to project the power of William the Conqueror to the outskirts of London. And of course, now it's. It's not about the military, although there is a lot of military. There is a big military presence there. Let's bring in Emily Finn here. Real America's Voice was contributor. Emily, you know, this is one of those things that despite all the politics and the back and forth, these kind, this kind of protocol is, is basically done no matter who the president is, no matter who the king or queen is. I wonder if this is the first time you've seen something like this live. Live and not in person, but live.
Emily Finn
Seeing it live is really cool. Upholding tradition is obviously something, something beautiful. I just think it's so cool to see, you know, these foreign leaders that, that you see in different settings. Interacting with Trump and Melania, seeing Princess Kate, I was kind of wondering, trying to read their lips, you know, what are they talking about in this moment? It's, it's great to see everyone coming together. I understand this is the second time that Trump has been there and he's actually going to be visiting Queen Elizabeth, the second tomb today with Melania. They're going to be having a private moment there. Layer reef lace flowers in her honor. So I think that will be a beautiful moment as well. But like you said, Jake, a lot of, a lot of tradition being upheld here.
Jake
Yeah. You know, one of the things is that despite all the fake news stories that have been planted about President Trump and things that he may have said or done, you have never really heard a, any anywhere near credible. I don't think they even try story that's been floated that, oh, he was rude to a foreign leader. He didn't talk very nicely with them. He always, I think President Trump is very proud of the fact that he has good personal relationships and interactions with foreign leaders. Now, King Charles, of course, is not officially a foreign leader. He is the monarch, a constitutional monarch of Great Britain. He does not have, of course, any political power per se, but of course he is upholding and is the head of state. We don't have that here in the United States. As you, as all of you know, the president is also the head of state. We don't have a separate, unelected, either aristocratic figure or ceremonial figure who does head of state types, things like greeting other heads of state or cutting ribbons and things like that. So it's important to understand that a lot of foreign countries, most notably Great Britain, do separate that. President Trump will meet with Keir Starmer, the Prime Minister of Great Britain, who he's met with many times, and they'll discuss a number of political issues. What I assume that they're speaking about now that I can't obviously officially guess, is just talking about the actual physical plant. If you know President Trump, he does like to talk about places, homes, castles, grounds, estates. And I wonder if he's getting a little bit of an extra education about Windsor Castle, about things that only King Charles and his family know about it. It's probably a lot of secret passageways and things like that. Right.
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You know, I think he may be getting some inspiration for the ballroom at the White House that he's building. I think he's going to get some carriages like that, if not at the White House, then at Mar a Lago. All of that gold would fit in really well.
Jake
Jake, you know, you're right about the ballroom. I mean, there is going to be an official state event at the ballroom at Windsor Castle this evening. So you're totally spot on about that. I assume that there'll be some discussion of that. And again, this is, this is this pomp and circumstance. Nobody in that, you know, I'm sorry, this is not exactly about putting, getting from point A to point B. But this is what they do in the official guard, the honor guard, as we might call it here in the United States of Windsor Castle doing its full procession. This is the, these are the full rights, honors and privileges for President Trump and Melania Trump as they visit King Charles and Queen Camilla. And of course, as you saw Prince William and Princess Kate going out to greet the President. That, by the way, that was a little bit of an interesting tutorial in the protocols of the British royal family. That was interesting. The Prince of Wales and the Princess of Wales can walk out from the front of the residence and walk to the vehicle, the horse and carriage, the car, the helicopter. But the King and the Queen stand royally and have their visitor greet them. A little bit of an, you know, interesting way of showing deference while you're still being warm and welcoming. I learned a little bit of a lesson there.
Emily Finn
Yeah. There are not many, many families, I suppose, or many places in the world that adhere to such strict rules like that. You know, I think even just thinking about Meghan Markle and Prince Harry, when they left the royal family, this was something that they talked about all the time and that, you know, in today's society that it was difficult for those two specifically to kind of overcome needing to uphold all of that tradition. But as we're watching on the screen here, Jake, this is pretty cool if you think about all of the people in the past, all of the presidents in the past that have come to meet with the royal family as well. It's, like I said, just really, really an interesting and beautiful thing to be watching tradition this, this closely.
Jake
Yeah. And if you're wondering why this is not happening at Buckingham Palace. There's a number of logistical reasons for that, but it's mostly tradition. This is something that foreign leaders are often introduced to. They're introduced to Windsor Castle, and it has something to do with the history I was talking about again, Windsor Castle was originally constructed as a military sign of strength by William the Conqueror, built over just over the River Thames on the outskirts of London. And the idea was to show respect and friendliness to foreign leaders, but to let them know that this is British power. Now, today, I don't think this is certainly not about a military power, a projection of military power, but it's a projection of tradition. And in the hope of instilling respect in foreign leaders and letting them understand that they are visiting almost an ancient empire, not quite, but a very, very old empire of Europe and something that stood, as important as we should also mention, one of the origin nations of this country. We had a lot of countries that settled the early United States, when it was known as the colonies. I mean, before the colonies, of course, the Dutch were the first to officially settle it, but of course, we are in many ways the descendants of this British system. And of course, we're completely independent. But you get the feeling that this is about tradition more than anything else.
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Absolutely, Absolutely. Jake, it's going to be interesting to see how Trump is received by the people of the uk. Just reading reports here as we've been tuning in and watching these live images out of the uk, out of Windsor Castle. There were four people that were arrested yesterday following a projection of images of Trump alongside sex offender Jeffrey Epstein onto Windsor Castle. That was literally just a couple days ago here, just yesterday, it looks like. Interesting. President Trump and King Charles are expected to meet. Obviously, there have been a lot of allegations about King Charles and his connections to Jeffrey Epstein. I wonder if that will be a topic of conversation between the two men today.
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Jake, I'm going to take a bet and say they're not going to talk about that. And I wonder if Lloyd's of London, the very famous. It was originally an insurance company. It still does insurance, but. But of course they do betting on everything at Lloyd's of London, not just sports. You can bet on a bunch of things there for the gambling addicted. I wonder if there's no way, I guess that could be confirmed. They probably won't have any betting lines on that. Getting back to Windsor Castle just for a moment. Some of you may remember that in 1992 there was a terrible fire at Windsor Castle and it was part of a really Terrible year for the royal family. That was also the year that then Prince Charles and the late Princess Diana announced their separation and eventual divorce. And there was a tremendous effort to rebuild Windsor Castle, to restore it to its grandeur. And I know that was a long time ago. That fire was literally 33 years ago, more than 33 years ago. But for the United Kingdom and for the royal family, I think that every time someone visits the newly restored Windsor Castle, and again, it was the interior that was badly damaged. Obviously, the stone castles and those fortresses, they're not damaged, as you would understand. But I think every time a foreign leader is greeted there, that is something that they're very proud of. And with somebody like President Trump, who is obviously a real estate maven, a decorating maven in many ways, now that, Emily, is what I'm going to bet they're going to spend a lot of time talking about.
Emily Finn
I'm sure that certainly will be a huge topic of conversations. I think Trump will be taking some notes, like I said, to take back to the States for that ballroom that he's building. Interior design definitely is something that he knows well. Building design is something that he knows well. And so I'm sure that he'll be keeping a close eye on everything. You know, you hear stories about him walking around even at Mar a Lago and saying, oh, there needs to be more gold in this corner and, oh, this needs to be adjusted or changed over here. So definitely sure that that will be a topic of conversation.
Jake
You know, Emily, we got a little bit of a glimpse of the future when we saw the Prince of Wales, William, and the Princess of Wales, Kate, walking out to Marine One to greet President Trump and First Lady Melania Trump. I'm wondering if you. If there's going to be some kind of a buzz around them. It's not quite Kate Middleton. I shouldn't keep calling her Kate Middleton. She's Princess Kate, but. And also a duchess. But I'm wondering if there's still that buzz around her. And as someone, as someone that might be really idolized here in the United States and become one of those heavily highly photographed people, we know that she's been dealing with some health problems. She's been a little bit more secluded than previous royals, but she looked pretty good there. I wonder if people were watching for that, if you were watching for that, to see how that is all going.
Emily Finn
She did. She looked very healthy. Given all of her. Her struggles lately, her battles with cancer. You know, interestingly enough, I think that there has been something going on with her treatments and with her hair. Social media people were talking about that. So truthfully, that's what I was looking for. Her hair looked beautiful today, blowing in the wind, so healthy. That's the way that I would describe Princess Kate and how she looked today, given everything that's been going on with her. Health wise, she looked in good spirits. Talking with First Lady Melania there. I think that those two are definitely going to have a whole lot to talk about as well. Maybe not as much about interior design like the president will likely be discussing, maybe more so about fashion. Who knows?
Jake
Yeah. Let's talk a little bit about the politics. I want to bring in Tyler o', Neill, senior editor at the Daily Signal, also the author of Woke to Puss. Tyler, you know, we're again, this is all the pomp and circumstance part. King Charles is not going to be representing, I don't think, British political policies to the President. That'll happen later when he meets with Prime Minister Keir Starmer. But this is an interesting moment in time for our two countries. I was talking before with Ryan Walters and a little bit with Brian Glenn about that massive, massive demonstration. It wasn't really a protest, a massive demonstration in Great Britain over the weekend. Some of it was to honor Charlie Kirk, but a lot of it was to try to basically keep up these traditions. We're seeing right now. We're seeing a tremendous threat to the British traditional way of life from some of the same challenges we've had in this country. Massive, massive, massive migration. Some people probably even shouldn't have been in Great Britain. I mean, I wonder if this is something that stands out to the people of Great Britain when they see this pomp and circumstance. Maybe 40% of the people, if they are watching it on TV in Great Britain, have no connection to this. Even though they live in the country, they're not really traditional British citizens.
Tyler O'Neill
Yeah, I think that is a big concern, what we're going to be seeing here. I am, I'm certain President Trump is going to bring up Charlie Kirk and probably, you know, in classic Trump fashion, he's probably going to make a subtle dig at Great Britain saying, you know, you guys have been going after free speech and we just had a free speech martyr in the United States, really putting an exclamation mark on the importance of having free speech in our countries in the United States and Great Britain share, you know, a very special relationship. And we're constantly looking across the pond to see what's likely to happen here. And, you know, hopefully what's not likely to happen here when you talk about that massive immigration crisis? I really think Great Britain could learn from some of the things President Trump is doing in cracking down on illegal immigration and sending the message that we don't want to be flooded with people who in many cases don't share our values. And by the way, you know, we have legal immigration that we should encourage and that we should say, like, when you come to this country, you should be honoring the laws of this country, not thumbing your nose in them from the very start.
Jake
You know, I have to make a point about horses. When President Trump visited with Keir Starmer a couple of months ago in Scotland, we had a horse photobombing the shot half the time. And here they are again. The horses are the stars of the show. My goodness, they have a really good agent. I'm only half kidding. They obviously love their horses and their horse culture. In Great Britain, King Charles mother, Queen Elizabeth ii was a horse breeder herself. But again, this is part of that pomp and circumstances. You know, Tyler and Emily, I want both of you to chime in on this. You know, one of the things that people may not understand about the, the changes in Great Britain from mass migration. You know, when you watch the BBC America or those shows on Masterpiece Theater and their shows about either the period pieces about old Great Britain or even some of the modern rom coms like Love actually or something like that, it's all white, British speaking, native born British people. That is not really representative of the British people anymore, of the population anymore. It's really interesting how they still, still in their entertainment media and in things like this, they're still trying to project a country that's very different from what it is right now. I'll start with you, Emily. Just, I'm sure you've seen the same thing.
Emily Finn
Yeah. You know, this is a really, really remarkable to see, Jake. You know, I keep keep looking at this carriage here. Really, really beautiful. You know, President Trump has got to be excited seeing all of that gold. Yeah, this is definitely something that you see usually play out in the movie, usually not live on your TV screen like this. So very, very exciting times here.
Jake
Jake, Tyler, obviously we're hearing the national anthem being played in deference to the visiting United States and the President of the United States. Tyler, again, you know, just, this is the kind of, this is the image that Britain tries to portray to the rest of the world, but it's really not this country anymore. And of course, it's not a country of Horse and buggies. That's not what I'm saying. I'm saying it's not a country of just old school style British culture. It's really changing before our eyes.
Tyler O'Neill
Yeah, I think the gap between what we're seeing with this pomp and circumstance and you know, I have to say, as a patriotic, red blooded American, it is amazing to wake up on Constitution Day and hear the national anthem playing in Windsor Castle. I mean, the, just, just the poetry of that moment is astounding to me. And I love to see, you know, as you're saying the pomp and circumstance. But I think you're exactly right. Great Britain is no longer the country that it thinks itself. It thinks of itself as being and has to address these serious issues. And that's one of the reasons why you're seeing the Reformation Reform Party makes such big inroads. I mean, we're not talking, you know, and the Reform Party is often an echo of what President Trump is doing here in the States and saying to the old conservatives in Britain that, you know, business as usual won't cut it anymore.
Jake
You know, I'm glad that you made a point about the poignancy of hearing the national anthem, the United States national anthem being played at Windsor Castle. Let's not lose the historic moment of that just for a second. Remember, we had to fight a revolution against this empire to gain our independence and to get a national anthem and everything else like that. And sure, we've been close friends with Great Britain for a very, very long time, most of the last 200 years, with the exception of when Britain kind of supported the Confederacy during the Civil War. But you know what I'm talking about. And we should understand that things like this happen in modern society, civilized society. King George III eventually came to accept the United States as an independent country when he got over those years of his mental and physical ailments. And King George III was very much instrumental in the restoration process that began of Windsor Castle. Like I said, it's been restored and restructured many times over the years. It was King George III and his son, King George iv, who played the biggest role in making that a tradition in the British royal family. One that this royal family, especially under the late Queen Elizabeth ii, have very much continued. Now you have President Trump and First Lady Melania Trump, along with King Charles and Queen Camilla at the reviewing stand. So again, this is really just a parade of sorts and one filled with, I mean, look at the, just the sheer number of guards that are standing, standing at attention is Pretty impressive. And again, this is all about projecting the power of Great Britain. The. In this case, certainly not necessarily the political power of this nation anymore, but its traditions. And there we're finally getting a real wide live shot. Thank you. Full camera of Windsor Castle. And you can see it's an imposing structure. And I think that this is what Britain wants to project to the world, their traditions and respect their traditions. But, you know, Tyler o', Neill, I feel like Great Britain itself is not respecting its own traditions enough. I saw a video earlier this week, talk with King Charles, talking about how Muslim culture is British culture. I love the fact that they're being welcome and opening to all religions and faiths. That's fine. But whatever happened to just basically saying, hey, we have a certain British culture, We believe it's a good one, we believe that it's welcoming enough, but people need to adhere to that. And here they're playing the national anthem again. Go ahead, Tyler.
Tyler O'Neill
Yeah, no, I mean, I think. I think you're exactly right. What we're seeing. And by the way, we, as, you know, as Western countries, we want to encourage people who honor our culture to come here, regardless of their skin color, regardless of their traditions. If they're going to be good citizens, we want to see them here. But at the. At some point, where does a country lose its fundamental defining culture? And Great Britain is in the midst of this big change. I mean, so many of the people who live in that country now are immigrants, and not just immigrants, like, because there are a lot of immigrants who belong in Great Britain. I think there are a lot of. There's a really proud tradition of Indians from the subcontinent coming to Great Britain and contributing to that society. And I don't think that is a threat to British culture. But when you're starting to see things like grooming gangs, things like. And by the way, you know, they're. They're great patriotic Muslims, but there's also a strain in Islam of radical Islamist terrorism. And we see a little bit of that come to Great Britain, and we've seen it in our own country, too. And I think it's very important. Important for us to be able to say, look, our country. And I think it's important for Britain to say, our country does not espouse or embrace things like radical Islamist terrorism. We oppose grooming gangs. We as a country need to come together and stand by our traditional values and say, we are not this. And at what point does Great Britain make that sense statement effectively? I think, you know, the Reform Party is trying to make that statement. I see President Trump over here making a similar statement. And of course it's different because the United States and Great Britain are, surprise, surprise, not exactly the same sort of country. But we, you know, we do have this resonance. And I think there's a reason why a movement like that of President Trump is gaining esteem in Great Britain. It's because many Brits realize, and many, many Brits appreciate free speech and are terrified to see that under threat in Britain and in the eu. And many Brits also value this, this cultural heritage. I mean, you're saying, and I think it's right, it's spot on, this Britain that we see on our TV screens right now, this pomp and circumstance, this is something that not only people in Britain, but people across the world appreciate. And we don't want to see that go away. And yet, you know, the trends that Great Britain is struggling with are represent a threat to some of that pomp and circumstance, to some of the good trappings of heritage that we see there. And the unfortunate thing is these trappings of heritage can sometimes long last for a little while after the real heart of a country has already been effectively snuffed out. And what we're seeing right now is a battle for the heart of Great Britain. And we want those good traditions to continue and not just to be trappings on something that no longer is the Great Britain we all knew.
Jake
You know, Tyler o' Neill from the Daily Signal has been joining us. You know, if I were a new immigrant to Great Britain, I think I would be confused by the ceremony. Not because I don't know who, who's talking and when and who these people are, but because at the same time that we're seeing stuff like this in other parts of Great Britain, if you wave a Union Jack, the flag of Great Britain at the wrong time, you can get arrested. The idea of ultra patriotic ceremony and showing patriotic symbols, if you're at the wrong place, according to the London Metropolitan Police or other police forces in Great Britain, you can literally be charged with a crime. This must be incredibly confusing to people in Great Britain, both the native born folks and new immigrants. Which is it? Are they a country that's proud of its traditions, that going to flaunt all of it and things like this, or is it going to tell people, hey, there's a bunch of new migrants coming to this country and if they see our flag, they might be triggered. So we're going to have to arrest you because you caused a dangerous situation. I mean, this is Kind of confusing when you juxtapose the two, isn't it?
Tyler O'Neill
Yes. And I think what also adds to that confusion is so many police forces wearing LGBT Pride flags, their uniforms. And look, I'm all for inclusion. I think people deserve rights when, you know, regardless of who they're, who they, you know, who they love and all that stuff. But I think it's important to say, you know, not everybody in Britain, and by the way, Britain has an established church, the official position of which, last I checked, is that the Bible stands. And when you. You look at the Bible, the Bible has very clear statements that you can't change your sex by identifying as the opposite one, and that marriage is between one man and one woman. And I think when you have state endorsements of LGBT messaging, you're really muddying the waters and you're saying, look, we, you know, I understand people who want to say, look, we're welcoming of all people. That's. That's one thing. But to actually have it on police uniforms, I think sends a message that this is effectively the state religion, and we are going to be enforcing this. And there are a lot of people in Great Britain and the United States and across the world who don't buy that, who don't believe what the LGBT move movement stands for, who don't stand for it. And that doesn't mean they can't treat people who identify that way with respect. And I think many of us realize, you know, we. We need to treat everyone with respect. This isn't about so called hate. The whole point is that you're having on uniform sending the message that this is a privileged class, that LGBT ideology is what the government stands for. And that's part of the chilling message that we see in Great Britain when it comes to free speech.
Jake
You know, I would really love just to talk about this as if we were reporters, Tyler o', Neill, People magazine or. And just basically talk and look about all of this and say, wasn't it great that, you know, that Kate had a great dress? And we did that, we talked about that. And I don't think that that's not worth talking about. I really do think it's worth talking about. But honestly, this is a very, very impressive show of British tradition, of pomp and circumstance, of monarch, of the monarchy, of the protocols, at the very time where if regular British citizens try to do the same thing, project their patriotism, project their pride in Great Britain, basically openly, as you alluded to, openly practice their faith in the Church of England and the Anglican Church, they can get in trouble. And I just have. It's just, it's impossible. There's a. There's that voice in the back of my head that says, be as respectful as you can to this ceremony. And I really am doing that, but I absolutely need to speak as an American and enjoying my free speech rights to talk about. There is just such an incredible dichotomy going on in Great Britain right now. Here they are pulling out all the stops of British patriotism and the monarchy and, and some of their church symbols as well. And yet, and yet, and yet, if I were. If I were just a regular cockney guy in, in this, in the East End of London, I could get in trouble for doing stuff like this. That, to me, must be discussed.
Tyler O'Neill
Yeah, no, I'm really glad you're discussing it because I'm looking at this screen and there are so many, you know, so many signs, so much pomp and circumstance, so much of this tradition that I love. And I mean, my family, we watch the crown, so we know, you know, and naturally the crown isn't entirely historically accurate, although they worked really hard. But, you know, we see there King Charles and you know, this is another Charles. Charleses are rather fraught in British history. We could say that's probably an understatement. And you know, he was. There's reasons why he had sort. He was on the outs a little bit with, with his mother, I mean, who valued these traditions very highly. And, you know, ultimately he succeeded her. But Queen Elizabeth II put her country first on a whole list of things that, like, she was a quintessential stateswoman. And now she's gone and we have him and he, so far as king, I, I don't see things he's done that have. Have shocked me. But at the same time, you know, I think it speaks volumes who's standing right next to him and all of the, the politics that went along with her accession. I mean, this is, this is a new monarchy. This is a different king, and this is a. This is a different Great Britain.
Jake
Tyler, I want to bring in our David Brody. And David, watching this. First of all, I wonder, you know, since you and I fought in the revolutionary war against these troops, I wonder if this is triggering to you at all. You know, it's upsetting to say, no, I'm just kidding. But yeah, I mean, what are some of the thoughts that come into your head when you see this pomp and circumstance right now?
David Brody
Well, do you really want me to be honest? I guess you do want me, to be honest with you.
Jake
Yeah, we're being, we're being honest.
David Brody
This is going to be totally off topic of what we're discussing, but I think of Princess D, I think of Princess D, I think about, wow, in terms of what Charles was thought of in this country and where he is today. And then I see Camilla there and there's just still a lot of bad taste in many people's mouths over what happened so many years ago. Honestly, that is exactly what I think. Now, that has nothing to do with the geopolitics of today. I will say this. I've looked at the British etiquette because you better remember the etiquette going into this, going into all of this. We remember in the last time with Queen Elizabeth, President Trump walked in front of Queen Elizabeth. How dare he. According to that, that was such a, such an uproar at the time among the Brits over there. And so I've got some advice for President Trump. If he, if he has an earpiece in, he's listening to me right now. Make sure he bows. Obviously, he, he should not hug Prince Charles. Whatever he does, please don't hug him. I'm looking at the roll here. He has to tear his bread roll tonight instead of sawing it off with a knife.
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This is the type of stuff that I guarantee you the media will be thinking about. Now in terms of the geopolitics to get serious for a moment, there are a couple things to keep in mind. Remember, Keir Starmer is ready to, in essence, say, to call for a Palestinian state. He said he would do it in September of 2025. Here we are. Unless Israel agrees to serve certain ceasefire conditions and X, Y and Z. So there's controversy there, there's controversy in the trade deals. And let's not have this lost on us. Yes, they're rolling out the red carpet and the pageant and the circumstances, all of that circumstances. But here's the thing. Why is that exactly? Because President Trump is President Trump and he holds the cards. He's the big enchilada, if you will. And this is a sign of President Trump, like, we're here to play ball with you. And be nice to us, because we understand you hold quite a bit of the power here in the negotiated deals that are going to come forward from any deal. But let's also remember, this is not your grandfather's Great Britain in the United States. This is a different world. It's a different time and climate. And, you know, so this idea that we're going back to yesteryear, I guess we are visually right now, but the geopolitical climate, Jake, has changed considerable.
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But I think that point about President Trump is exactly why they played the national anthem. I mean, it's not just celebratory of having the president there. I think it also is essentially acknowledging who's the guy who's calling this shots on the global stage and who do we need to be working very closely with. You know, it's like Winston Churchill biting his tongue when he doesn't like everything that FDR and Stalin were doing, but he worked closely with them. Sorry not to compare our president to Stalin, but the ultimate thing here is President Trump is the one making the moves on the global stage. And even King Charles has to understand that.
David Brody
Well, you know, it's funny because you mentioned. I'm sorry, real quick, Jake, I just wanted to say, Tyler, you mentioned Winston Churchill as well. Of course. There have been a lot of comparisons, actually, between Trump and Winston Churchill in different ways, different styles. Well, though the style, you can argue, could be a bit of the same, so. So there are comparisons to be made there, for sure.
Jake
You know, I want to ask you both about talking about King Charles here for a second. You know, in the somewhat fictionalized but also very verified reports about his life and growing up, he very much wanted to make an absolute stamp of his own on the British monarchy and on the nation of Great Britain. And all I can think of now of the last couple of years, especially as he has become king, is. I'm sorry, I feel like he's really missed his opportunity. What a great opportunity over the last couple of years where new King of England could have said, we certainly are looking at a new world every single day, but we want to make sure that we uphold the very traditional British values, and we believe that they are inclusive, that they are welcoming to those who want to join our nation and work hard here and follow our traditions and be respectful of them. And instead, it just seems like he's been almost like one of those people that they trot out at a university here in the United States when they welcome the new students, telling them, basically, hey, you guys run it. We're just gonna be here and try to be nice to you. I really feel like he's missed his tremendous opportunity that he was waiting for his whole life. I used to make a joke about him because he was Prince of Wales for so long. I mean, he looked like a guy who was waiting for his bar mitzvah until he was 90 years old. And here he finally has it, and he's making the kind of public address system announcements that any clerk could make.
David Brody
Well, he comes with the baggage. I think he comes with a lot of baggage and a lot of history, as I pointed out in my first comments when I first joined you guys. But I do think that for him, I think what motivates him mostly in terms of public policy is the environment, and that's where he gets a lot of his mojo, if you will. And once again, that's not something that the President and King Charles necessarily see eye to eye on. But, you know, once again, President Trump, very respectful to King Charles. And, you know, you know, Trump knows how to play the game. He knows how to play the game for sure.
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Tyler O'Neill
Yeah, I mean, I think what we're seeing here, you're exactly right. When you're talking about Charles. He hasn't taken ownership in the same way that I think Queen Elizabeth, especially the younger Queen Elizabeth, would in these trying times. I mean, championing British values to the world and not just saying. Not. Not just being a placeholder, but actually saying, like, no, we stand for free speech, we are inclusive, but we also want to protect the integrity of our country. I mean, I don't know how much Charles believes those things that I think he ought to believe, but that is the message that a king that are truly transformational and strong, King of Great Britain, should be sending at this moment.
David Brody
I. I will say this can I just say something Jake, real quick. He said a place, King Charles being a placeholder. I think that's exactly what he is. This honestly is all about King William because I think with King William which could happen sooner rather than later, quite frankly based on Charles's health and age, I think at that point there's going to be a demarcation line as to where this monarchy goes next and whether or not it can be be catapulted into a different stratosphere and in a positive way. I think we wait and see that because the love for King or for Prince William at this point but soon to be King William will be it's, it's quite palpable over in across the pond as they say.
Jake
Jake. Yeah. You know David, you talked about Prince King Charles baggage and you're talking about his personal life and then you also mentioned the environment. But I have to say the environment is also part of his baggage. Remember king Charles.
David Brody
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Jake
20 years ago, so 15 years ago so said that the world was basically going to come to an end unless X, Y and Z happen within six months. And then he reiterated that threat a few years later. Obviously that didn't happen and he really fell into the climate doomerism type stuff. And one of the bad things about when you do that is when bad things don't happen, then people don't listen to you anymore. And he has baggage on that front as well. Unfortunately for him, all I can say is a tremendous opportunity I think that he missed and hopefully listen he's still here. He has a chance to redeem himself. I want to bring in now we're going to be just seamlessly hand this over to the wonderful big show as I call it American Sunrise. And bring in Dr. Gina and Terrence Bates. You've been watching all of this just to have that seamless handover. I mean what's been running through your minds as you watch all. It's beautiful. That's the first thing that runs through my mind. But I wonder what you guys it thinking.
Emily Finn
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Sort of serious right news worthy people because the climate radicalism really, really did bring down the reputation as you said and makes them less than trustworthy. I mean I do love the regalia. I love, I love traveling in Europe I think it's beautiful. Been to the castle before. Love the little pub across the street where Churchill used to go. And I love the history. I really do love the history. Love studying it. But I'm with you on that, Jake. It kind of dampens everything for me honestly, to know that. But these people, I don't know if you'd call them fairweather friends, but just not the kinds of people that I would want to hang out with personally. And I feel like they are being friendlier to President Trump right now because of, because of his situation and what he's accomplished in his own right. And that if he were still tremendously unpopular in America, they would be acting like he never happened. And I think that that disingenuousness really bothers me.
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Yeah. David Brody, I wonder if you talked about how Prince William right now has much more support and is much more popular in Great Britain than his father King Charles iii. But again, that's among what I would assume to be actual British citizens. This is a country that's had their borders open like we had our borders open under President Biden, but for many more years. And I think that the persistent percentage influx of new migrants and new people.
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Real America’s Voice – American Sunrise Early Edition
Episode Date: September 17, 2025
Host: Jake Novak
Notable Guests/Contributors: Ryan Walters (Oklahoma Schools Chief), Brian Glenn (White House Correspondent), Emily Finn (RAV Contributor), Tyler O’Neill (Senior Editor, Daily Signal), David Brody
This special edition of American Sunrise Early Edition covers two major stories:
The episode fuses live event commentary with serious political discourse, exploring American and British tradition, culture wars, free speech, and shifting national identities.
Timestamps: 05:05–16:00, 19:00–30:19
Timestamps: 35:52–53:14
Timestamps: 07:18–15:09
Timestamps: 53:14–65:55
Timestamps: 58:18–65:39
On British tradition:
“It doesn't get any more iconic than this.” – Brian Glenn, 09:21
“Just the poetry of that moment is astounding to me. And I love to see...the pomp and circumstance.” – Tyler O’Neill, 40:16
On cultural anxiety:
“This is the very time where if regular British citizens try to do the same thing, project their patriotism, project their pride in Great Britain...they can get in trouble. And I just have...to talk about. There is just such an incredible dichotomy going on in Great Britain right now.” – Jake, 50:15
On leadership:
“He [Charles III] comes with a lot of baggage and a lot of history...I think what motivates him mostly in terms of public policy is the environment, and that's where he gets a lot of his mojo, if you will.” – David Brody, 62:12
On future of the monarchy:
“King Charles being a placeholder. I think that's exactly what he is. This honestly is all about King William...” – David Brody, 63:43
On Charlie Kirk’s legacy:
“Charlie was inspiring hope, inspiring all of this empowerment for young people...this unbelievable potential there for young people. And then, on the other side, you have this terrible evil individual that took his life.” – Ryan Walters, 07:18
The podcast maintains a spirited, provocative, and conversational tone—unapologetically conservative-populist—with frank commentary, humor, and cultural critique woven throughout. The hosts and contributors blend live journalistic reporting (from Windsor) with impassioned political and cultural analysis, always foregrounding traditional values and skepticism about progressive change.
For Listeners Who Missed the Episode:
This summary covers the story arcs and frank, original commentary that defined this special edition—linking ceremonial events abroad with urgent political debates at home, and offering both historical perspective and pointed cultural observation.