American Sunrise Early Edition - September 29th, 2025

Summary

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American Sunrise Early Edition – September 29, 2025

Podcast: Real America’s Voice (iHeartPodcasts)
Host: Jake Novak
Featured Guests: Congressman Randy Fine (FL), Emily Finn, Don Brown (NC Senate candidate), David Brody

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Overview

This episode of American Sunrise Early Edition offers fast-moving coverage and opinion on the major political and cultural controversies shaping American life. Host Jake Novak and his guests dive into issues such as political violence and civil unrest, government shutdown brinksmanship, accountability in U.S. intelligence agencies, the increasing influence of DEI in education, local and national political races, and recent crime trends. The tone combines urgency, skepticism of establishment narratives, and an advocacy for traditional American values and “law and order.”

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Main Topics & Segments

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1. America’s Political and Social Divisions: "A Cold Civil War"

[03:09–06:34]

Key Points

• Host Jake Novak frames the nation as divided between those "who commit or enable violence and those who want to do something to stop it," citing Portland as a current flashpoint but insisting, “there aren’t any real sidelines anymore anywhere in America.”
• Drawing parallels to the Confederacy, Novak claims “politicians in certain states…are working overtime to block the federal authorities” from maintaining peace.
• He introduces Congressman Randy Fine (FL), asking for his take on the escalation of political and physical conflict in the U.S.

Notable Quotes

• Novak (06:00): "It really feels very much like we're in the middle now of a kinetic, physical, violent civil war in America."
• Rep. Fine (06:34): "Maybe the way to describe it is a cold civil war…You don't have troops amassed…firing at each other, but you've got one side that's clearly engaging in violence…over and over again, trying to stop the government...and frankly, is trying to facilitate the foreign invasion of people from other countries."

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2. Government Shutdown and Immigration: "A Political Act of War"

[07:15–10:08]

Key Points

• Novak and Fine connect the looming federal government shutdown to broader political conflict, accusing Democrats of brinksmanship to extract concessions on immigration and social spending.
• Fine accuses Democrats of “willing to shut the government down in order to provide free healthcare to illegal immigrants,” asserting this is a deliberate effort to “destroy America.”
• Discussion pivots to the lack of public outrage over shutdowns compared to previous decades.

Notable Quotes

• Novak (07:50): "This budget shutdown battle with the Democrats…seems like an act of war in its own way. A political act of war."
• Rep. Fine (08:06): "You have to wonder if you're dealing with people whose goal is to build America or to destroy America."
• Fine (09:39): "Democrats [are] playing to their far left base…that frankly is fomenting the violence in our country."

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3. The Comey Indictment and Accountability for "The Deep State"

[10:08–13:21]

Key Points

• Discussion shifts to the indictment of former FBI Director James Comey. Novak frames the “Russia collusion hoax” as a serious crime that has destroyed public faith in U.S. institutions.
• Fine and Novak agree that accountability is overdue for those they deem responsible for “weaponizing” government agencies.
• Both call for prosecution, warning against letting concerns about media backlash prevent action.

Notable Quotes

• Novak (11:10): "If we're going to say those are serious crimes, because they are, and then we're not going to punish the people who enabled it, then we're lying."
• Rep. Fine (11:26): "The deep state is real, and we're seeing it...wacko leftists will do anything to keep power. The only way to get them to stop is if we hold them accountable."
• Rep. Fine (12:29): "Over and over…the FBI, the IRS, the CDC—all of these government agencies have been weaponized by Democrats and confidence has been destroyed."

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4. U.S.–Israel Relations and Palestinian Statehood Recognition

[13:21–15:30]

Key Points

• With Prime Minister Netanyahu visiting President Trump, Novak highlights recent UN recognitions of a Palestinian state, criticizing the move as dangerous and illegitimate.
• Fine links the trend to political catering by European left-wing parties to “a substantial population of radical Muslims,” arguing it’s now about politics, not ideology.

Notable Quotes

• Fine (14:23): "They now have admitted a substantial population of radical Muslims that are a meaningful part of their voting base. This is the warning to America: we have got to stop letting people into this country who hate us."

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5. DEI Failures and Immigration in Education: The Iowa Superintendent Scandal

[19:20–24:32]

Key Points

• Novak and Emily Finn discuss the case of Ian Andre Roberts, an illegal immigrant from Guyana with weapons charges, recently hired as the Des Moines Public Schools superintendent.
• Both criticize DEI (diversity, equity, inclusion) policies, arguing they incentivize box-checking over real support for disadvantaged groups.
• Finn points out the system's “egregious failure” and calls for more accountability in hiring.

Notable Quotes

• Finn (21:01): "This is really concerning…This is a person who wasn’t from this country, has been ordered to leave…and had a loaded handgun with him on a school campus."
• Novak (22:02): "These schools and these people who hire these folks don’t care about them. They are looking to check a box…If they cared about helping underprivileged or disadvantaged folks…you have to start earlier."
• Finn (23:20): "We just need to be taking this a lot more seriously and make sure that, for the love of God, illegals that are supposed to be deported are not running our school districts."

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6. Market Update, Economic Trends, and Industry News

[29:17–31:45]

Key Points

• Novak provides a market overview. He notes that 45% of households’ financial assets are now in stocks, warns of over-concentration, and advocates diversification.
• Discusses rumors of a $50 billion buyout of Electronic Arts by private equity and Saudi interests, pondering if it signals trouble in the stagnant video games industry.
• Brief commentary on Chinese President Xi’s possible motivations in U.S.-China trade talks, potentially trading market access for American restraint on Taiwan.

Notable Quotes

• Novak (29:17): "It's scary to have so much money in just one asset…the stock market. If the market ever has a major, major sell off, this could really hurt people."

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7. National Security, Infrastructure, and Law Enforcement

[31:45–36:00]

Key Points

• Reports on Legionnaires’ disease outbreak at GM’s Tech Center and a devastating cyberattack at Jaguar Land Rover in the UK, warning of vulnerabilities in U.S. industry.
• Explains Memphis police expanding patrols targeting speeders at night as an adaptation of “broken windows” theory to law enforcement, linking minor violations to larger crime reduction.

Notable Quotes

• Novak (34:00): "Anybody up, let alone speeding at 2, 3am, there's a good chance that person's a criminal, either coming from a criminal act or on their way."

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8. Urena’s Law, Crime, and the Role of Government – Interview with Don Brown (NC Senate candidate)

[42:06–53:37]

Key Points

• Novak and Don Brown argue that urban unrest and rising crime (especially in blue states/cities) are tantamount to “civil war.”
• Brown urges for federal intervention and references constitutional authority for presidential action to restore order.
• Focus on North Carolina’s response to a high-profile murder and attempts to pass “Urena’s Law” to stop the “revolving door” of offenders being released.
• Brown criticizes Democrat leadership for “soft on crime” policies and slow disaster response, tying it to his Senate campaign themes.

Notable Quotes

• Don Brown (44:56): "There is a literal civil war on the streets…One of the goals in our preamble…is to ensure domestic tranquility."
• Don Brown (47:23): "The idea, Jake, is to try to stop this revolving door practice…The law is designed to cut that down and eliminate it for multiple offenders. It's just plain common sense."
• Don Brown (49:29): "[Disaster] recovery has been Christian groups and charitable groups on the ground...The Democrat governor was off in New York apparently on a fundraiser when this thing came down the pike."
• Don Brown (53:02): "I’m going to prosecute the case against Roy Cooper and we’re going to beat him."

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9. New York Mayor’s Race Shakeup – With David Brody

[57:08–61:48]

Key Points

• Mayor Eric Adams drops out, narrowing the race to a contest between Zoran Mamdani and Andrew Cuomo.
• Brody and Novak bemoan what they see as the low quality of political candidates; Brody calls Mamdani “so radical that in liberal New York he’s actually had to dial some…back.”
• Both express concern about Mamdani’s proposals, especially additional funding for legal aid to illegal immigrants, and predict his victory, though hinting backlash could arise from the city’s working-class and marginalized populations.

Notable Quotes

• David Brody (58:25): "Mamdani makes Ed Koch look like MAGA at this point. That’s how bad this has gotten in New York."
• Novak (60:04): "He’s willing to spend $100 million of additional taxpayer money to provide illegal aliens with lawyers…It’s highway robbery."
• Brody (60:47): "Three inflection points…Israel, Immigration, and Safety. You put them all together, I think it’s a cauldron and I think it’s brewing in the city."

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10. Uplifting Story – Classic Corvette & Community Kindness

[36:00–39:10], [50:44]

• Brief segment on a rare 1953 Corvette featured in the Wall Street Journal and the supportive response from faith-based groups (e.g., Amish community) to disaster survivors in North Carolina, highlighting American resilience and charity.

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Memorable Moments & Quotes

• Jake Novak (06:00): "It really feels very much like we're in the middle now of a kinetic, physical, violent civil war in America."
• Rep. Randy Fine (11:26): "The deep state is real, and we're seeing it...wacko leftists will do anything to keep power."
• Emily Finn (23:20): "If we're letting things like this happen, it means that we're just turning a blind eye to the future generations of this country."
• Don Brown (44:56): "There is a literal civil war on the streets… One of the goals [of the Constitution] is to ensure domestic tranquility."
• David Brody (58:25): "Mamdani makes Ed Koch look like MAGA at this point."
• Jake Novak (60:04): "He’s willing to spend $100 million of additional taxpayer money to provide illegal aliens with lawyers…It’s highway robbery."

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Noteworthy Timestamps

• America’s violent divide and government shutdown: [03:09–10:08]
• Comey indictment & agency accountability: [10:08–13:21]
• Palestinian statehood debate: [13:21–15:30]
• Iowa superintendent/DEI critique: [19:20–24:32]
• Market update & EA buyout: [29:17–31:45]
• Jaguar Land Rover cyberattack discussion: [31:45–34:00]
• Don Brown on civil unrest & North Carolina issues: [42:06–53:37]
• NYC mayoral race analysis: [57:08–61:48]

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Tone and Style

• Highly opinionated, combative, and urgent; frequent analogies to past American crises.
• Populist and critical of “elites,” “deep state,” “mainstream media,” and progressive policies.
• Pushes for accountability, law and order, and restoration of older American institutional trust.

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Takeaways

American Sunrise Early Edition frames the week’s news as more evidence of America’s fractured political landscape, with ongoing violence, escalating political conflict, and a crisis of faith in public institutions at the heart of the narrative. Its hosts and guests urge more aggressive responses to crime, immigration, and perceived governmental overreach, while also highlighting underreported stories of resilience and charity at the community level. The episode paints a consistently high-stakes, contentious picture of American civic life as the 2024–25 election cycle heats up.

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[Jake Novak]

America has become a nation divided between those who commit or enable violence and those who want to do something to stop it. The latest flashpoint is Portland, Oregon. But there aren't any real sidelines anymore anywhere in America. A battle of another kind is brewing in Washington, D.C. as President Trump will meet with congressional leaders today to discuss what it will take to pass a spending bill and avoid a government shutdown. One thing is for sure, the stigma of being blamed for causing a shutdown no longer packs the same punch it once did in the polls. Back to the violence in America. The man who attacked a Mormon church in suburban Flint, Michigan, yesterday with shots fired and explosives has been identified as a 40 year old veteran of the Iraq War. Police and the FBI are searching for a motive. The shooter was killed as was one innocent victim. In New York, incumbent Eric Adams drops out of the mayor's race. But is this a case of too little, too late to stop Zoran Mamdani from winning? And how on earth did an illegal alien with a gun charge against him him get hired to the $300,000 a year job as superintendent of a school district in Iowa? Actually, it's easy to understand. Well, his hiring was a secret, for one thing, but there's more to the story. American SUNRISE EARLY EDITION begins now.

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[Jake Novak]

We will be letting the public know regularly what we have found. AMERICAN SUNRISE EARLY EDITION with your host Jake Novak starts now. Hi, I'm Jake Novak. Welcome to AMERICAN SUNRISE EARLY edition. Thank you so much for joining us. As I said, it's been a very, very busy weekend here in the United States. We've got some stories that are still developing. We've got a storm in the Atlantic off of the Atlantic coast that we're watching very carefully. We have the developments of that deadly shooting and explosive attack on a Mormon church in suburban Flint, Michigan, yesterday that we're watching to try to get more information on the man who committed that act. And of course, we have a budget bill battle government shutdown on the on the front burner. So much, so many things Going on today, helping us get through a lot of it is right now Republican Congressman Randy Fine from the state of Florida. Congressman Fine, I'm sorry to say this, and this is something we talked about before, but I'm sorry to say this, but it really feels very much like we're in the middle now of a kinetic, physical, violent civil war in America. And like the Confederacy of old congressmen, we have politicians in certain states who are working overtime to block the federal authorities, National Guard troops or FBI agents or ICE agents from coming in and reestablishing the peace. I just have to get your overall take on this. Obviously, Portland is the flashpoint right now, but there's a lot of problems across the country in these blue states where their leaders are not allowing for peace and justice to unfold.

[Congressman Randy Fine]

Well, the sad fact is that I thought you were going to say Chicago, not Portland. And the fact that there's multiple cities where you can make these statements just tells you how bad we are. I think maybe the way to describe it is a cold civil war where you don't have troops amassed in the town square firing at each other, but you've got one side that's clearly engaging in violence over and over and over again, trying to stop the government, the federal government, from doing its lawful duties and frankly, is trying to facilitate the foreign invasion of people from other countries. So I think we're in a very terrible place as a country, and it makes me very concerned about what our future looks like.

[Jake Novak]

Yeah, I mean, it's generally cold, but these. These sporadic attacks are picking up. They're picking up, and they seem to be planned, they seem to be coordinated. And at this point, it's only one group that's firing shots that the other. And that's really disturbing, Congressman. It feels almost ridiculous to shift from this brewing civil war, this violence in America, to talking about elected officials enabling it, and then go to a discussion about an impending government shutdown. But as you know, Carl von Clausewitz said that war is politics by other means, and LBJ said politics is war. And this budget shutdown battle with the Democrats basically deciding that they're willing to shut the government down unless taxpayers like you, you and me give illegal aliens pay for their health care. Seems like an act of war in its own way. A political act of war.

[Congressman Randy Fine]

Yeah, I was going to say they're linked, really. When you're willing to shut the government down in order to provide free health care to illegal immigrants, and frankly, when you're willing to shut the government down in order to try to add a trillion and a half dollars of new debt which will inevitably lead to the country's collapse down the road to you have to wonder if you're dealing with people whose goal is to build America or to destroy America. We passed a nonpartisan, non controversial seven week extension to allow us to finish doing the budget in regular order, which the Democrats will have the same amount of leverage over as they do right now. But they're not willing to let that happen. They want the government to shut down if we don't continue to give billions of to illegal immigrants. And it's just crazy.

[Jake Novak]

Yeah. And I don't think the Democrats seem to think this is still 2017 when they could get a lot of juice, I'll say, from a number of different avenues in America just for standing up to President Trump, even if it's ridiculous. Well, now you need to have a better reason. And as you described, there's no reason for them to not vote for an extension. Now if they were trying to be budget hawks, Congressman, if they were saying, hey, we got to get spending under control and we got to know we're not going to take this seven week extension, that would be one thing. But they want to spend more. So it makes no sense. And I don't, and I also don't think people care about a shutdown as much as they did. This is also not 1995, let alone 20, 2017. People are not up in arms about shutdowns anymore. Let's talk about the indictment. Go ahead, Go ahead, Congressman. Go ahead.

[Congressman Randy Fine]

I said I think you're right. I don't think they do. I think the other problem we have is the Democrats playing to their far left base. I mean, the same Democratic leaders who just a few months ago said no, no, no, it's irresponsible to shut down. The government have completely flipped their tune because when they did that a few months ago, they got so much grief from that far left radical base, the base that frankly is fomenting the violence in our country.

[Jake Novak]

Yeah. And this would be an act of violence in its own way. Congressman, let's talk about the indictment of James Comey because as I showed, and I wasn't the only one, so many people have showed the open and shut up case evidence against James Comey lying about leaking evidence and stories about the Russia collusion investigation to the news media more than once to Congress. And I'd like to get your take on the way that I'm basically trying to lay this out to people who are confused about what's going on here. If we're going to say that the Russia collusion hoax investigation was a serious crime, and it was. If we're going to say that all of this caused so much grief in America, Families broke up, friendships broke up, and also, most importantly, our intelligence community has lost all of the confidence that the American people had in it. These are serious crimes. If we're going to say those are serious crimes, because they are, and then we're not going to punish the people who enabled it, then we're lying. And so, very simply, this has to happen, this charge has to happen. This is someone who absolutely made sure that this investigation went on, made sure a lot of people believed it, and continued that real, the real damage that I described before, I don't see how James Comey can be the only one. In fact, it's not a question of, oh, they shouldn't have indicted him. The question should be, who else? Because there were so many other people involved in this.

[Congressman Randy Fine]

And look, I hope you're starting to see the beginning of it. The real extraordinary thing about the James Comey situation is the sanctimony with which he lectured us for years about honesty in government and everything else while he was clearly lying in an effort to, frankly, execute a coup against Donald Trump. I mean, the deep state is real, and we're seeing it right here in terms of what these wacko leftists will do to keep power. The only way we get them to stop is if we hold them accountable. And we warned the Democrats when they came after President Trump there would be consequences for doing it. And James Comey is only going to be the first to see what that means.

[Jake Novak]

Yeah, and I think it's, it's, it's really important for people to understand the damage done. I don't know too many right wingers or left wingers who believe the intelligence community anymore. And that's scary. I mean, it just simply is. And, you know, again, the left might say, well, and now we support them. Yeah, go ahead.

[Congressman Randy Fine]

Honestly, that's the result of, frankly, the Biden four years, the destruction of, of confidence in government. Whether it's how they handled Covid or they handled intelligence, Democrats have weaponized the institutions, the fabric of our society to make them political. It started with using the IRS to go after groups they didn't agree with, all of these pillars of what make America America. One by one by one, they have weaponized and destroyed confidence in them. We used to believe in the CDC and the nih. People used to believe in them, and they Ruined that with COVID So over and over and over again, the FBI, the irs, the cdc, all of these government agencies have been weaponized by Democrats and confidence has been destroyed. The only way we solve this is to go after the people who did it, put them in jail and say this can never happen again.

[Jake Novak]

Yeah. Or otherwise. We need to stop complaining about it. If we're going to complain and discuss the damage done and not punish the people involved. Just because we're worried about the New York Times writing a headline that there's some revenge action going on, then we're not serious. Finally, Congressman, I want to talk about Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu. He will be meeting with President Trump at the White House today. It's going to be a busy day at the White House. And this comes off the heels of that UN General assembly is always a sham here in New York last week, but was very much punctuated by the fact that there were several countries recognizing a Palestinian state. I don't know what state they're talking about. They have no elected leader, they have no capital, they have no actual function in government. And of course, they did not say we won't recognize the state until Hamas is taken care of and the hostages are released. They have no, no preconditions at all. To me, thank goodness President Trump is on the same page with everyone who is sane in the world, and that includes Benjamin Netanyahu, about talking about how dangerous this whole recognition trend is.

[Congressman Randy Fine]

Well, what's interesting though is we've entered a new phase in this. You talk about sane versus insane. The problem we have in many of these countries that have, that have recognized the fakestan as I like to call it, is that they now have admitted a substantial population of radical Muslims that are a meaningful part of their voting base. So in many of these countries, this is no longer ideological, this is political, where these left wing parties that are in power have to cater to their mainstream Muslim base to stay in power. This is the warning to America. We have got to stop letting people into this country who hate us, who don't want to share our values and want to destroy it. Look at dear Boristan, dear Bornistan, if you want to see where America is going to go if we don't take this stuff seriously. And I think that's what we have to recognize is going on at the un it's not ideology, it's politics now.

[Jake Novak]

Yeah. And it's not really even about Israel. It's just an excuse, an excuse for violence and for a takeover and having more power in the countries that they go to. Congressman Randy Fine. Got to get you on a day when we have more good news. But I appreciate all your commentary and have a good week, please.

[Congressman Randy Fine]

Thanks. Happy to be here anytime.

[Jake Novak]

All right. Coming up, how the heck did an illegal alien from Guyana with other criminal charges on his record get hired to a high paying job as a school superintendent in Iowa? Emily Finn and I will kick that around. And later, you know, I'm hankering for some good news, so at least I'm gonna bring you something beautiful and that's this. I will tell you the story behind this beautiful work of art. It's a 1953 original Corvette. I'll explain why it's in the news later this hour. American Sunrise, early edition. We'll be right back.

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[Jake Novak]

It's a live look at Destin, Florida, not Desitin for those of you who have newborns. Destin, Florida, it's a beautiful shot, that causeway there. Thank you so much for coming back. Welcome back to American Sunrise early edition. It's a Monday. Thank you especially to those of you on the Getter chat, on the Rumble Chat. And again, you know, you can watch and comment live on X on Substack. A lot of places to do it. And I look at all those platforms and I love your suggestions. Hey, just when you think you've heard it all, when it comes to the illegal alien crisis in America, another story comes around to top it. And this is this is about the most, one of the most outrageous ones I've ever heard. It turns out the superintendent of Des Moines Public Schools in Iowa is none other than a man named Ian Andre Roberts. He's an illegal alien from Guyana with weapons charges against him. And when ICE picked him up last week, he had a loaded handgun on him illegally. Now joining me now is real America's Voice contributor, Emily Finn. And Emily, I want to float a theory by you here as to how this all happened. It isn't just about our open border situation. It's about DEI and DEI hiring. As I've said for many, many years, if we want to get more diversity in our professional jobs in this country and in universities, you can't start when the people start applying to the jobs or to the universities. You have to care about people from their original age. So if you want More African Americans at Harvard start doing something in K through 12 to help them, preferably in K and a nursery school. And I don't mean Head Start. Yes, you want people who are going to be in the school system hired. You can't just hire them out of nowhere. Do something to train people. This is outrageous.

[Emily Finn]

It's beyond outrageous. And you're right. This really does start when you're applying to colleges. And I remember the joke when I was going to school was, you just lie on your application, lie and say that you are a different race or that you identify as something that you're not just because you have a higher chance of getting in. And that is definitely not what they should be incentivizing with these DEI programs. Now, this is really concerning, though. This is a person who wasn't from this country, has been ordered to leave, has been ordered to deport and had a loaded handgun with him on a school campus. Explain to me where any of this makes sense and how many people should be held accountable for letting this happen as well. How many people did he have to interview with? How many students saw, maybe this isn't right? How many parents of the students that they came home from school and said, hey, mom and Dad, I don't know who this person is. I don't know if he even speaks English. I mean, there had to have been so many questions beforehand. And this is an egregious failure of the public school system in Des Moines.

[Jake Novak]

You made the point. He had an order of deportation against him issued last year in the summer of 2024 under the Biden administration. So the Biden administration wanted this guy deported. Whether they knew that he was working as a superintendent at Des Moines schools at that point, I don't know. But they had his name and his ID and they wanted him out of here. And again, I have a news flash to everyone who's going to get into an argument today with a family member or a friend who's a liberal, who's all about DEI and affirmative action, headline these schools and these people who hire these folks don't care about them. They are looking to check a box. They are legally forced or institutionally forced to hire a certain type of person if they cared about helping underprivileged or disadvantaged folks in America. And there are a lot of them. No one is denying that you don't do it, starting with the college application process. You have to start earlier. And you need to make a real investment. You know what it costs Harvard and these other people to hire Somebody like this, nothing. It costs them nothing. And that's how much they care about it. And that's why we need to get to the bottom. If you really want to help improve certain groups in this country's fate and their educational opportunities, you got to start early, not when they're applying for jobs. Emily this was a $300,000 a year job. And I think 300k a year goes pretty far in Des Moines.

[Emily Finn]

I'm going to guess that absolutely, that's a really impressive job living in that area of the country. I just. The story is infuriating. We shouldn't let this happen. And we do need to be taking a much broader look at education in the United States. If we're letting things like this happen, it means that we're just turning a blind eye to the future generations of this country, to the education of our children. And so, like I said, we just need to be taking this a lot more seriously and make sure that, for the love of God, illegals that are supposed to be deported are not running our school districts. That doesn't make any sense, Jake.

[Jake Novak]

Yeah. And finally, I'll just say I don't understand why these colleges and these places that are hiring these kinds of people don't get the message. Their problem is not the decision to hire them. They decided that already. The problem is getting people to apply in the first place. The Ivy League schools and some of these job centers are dying for the applicants and they can't find them. Which is why they end up scraping bottoms of the barrels like illegal and hiring illegal aliens instead of trying to fix the problem at its source, which they don't do. Emily Finn, thank you so much for joining us. You'll be with us in the 8 to 10am hour. Thank you and have a great entire week. Even though I'll be seeing you the entire week.

[Emily Finn]

Sounds great. See you tomorrow, Jake.

[Jake Novak]

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[Jake Novak]

It's a live look at New York City there. That's the Empire State Building there, right in front of you. Getting close to the 100th anniversary. It was built in 1931, about six years away. That's going to be fun, celebrating the hundredth anniversary. And that building on the left, no, it's not curved and about to fall. It's just a little bit of the curve of the lens of the camera there. It's an interesting shot there. So don't, don't worry. We're not about to have a major disaster in New York City. Let's take a look. Speaking of disasters, let's look at the stock market. Just kidding. The stock market's been very strong this year and it looks like we're going to have another strong open. That was down overall last week, but we had a strong Friday to end on a high note. And looks like we're going to start on a high note here on this Monday. Everything up. Let's take and crude oil is down. It was getting up over there, you know, in that $65 a barrel range, but now it's back to 64. Let's take a look at Bitcoin. Now last time I checked, it was rallying this morning and it is, but it's at 112,000, even about $10,000 lower than its all time high from several weeks ago. Direct and indirect stock holdings by the American people, either a regular stock that you own by yourself on its own or in a mutual fund or retirement plan that stocks in general account for 45% of households financial assets so far this year, that is a very, very high percentage. And I was just talking about with Birch gold diversification and things like that. It's scary to have so much money in just one asset, which is just the overall stock market. If the market ever has a major, major sell off, this could really hurt people, especially if you're nearing retirement. This is my usual ad that I give. I don't get any money for it and I don't know any, any folks in particular that I'm going to actually suggest for you. But you got to talk, especially if you're nearing retirement, you got to speak to a financial advisor and let them know you can't all be in one kind of asset because if you have bad timing and the market's down when you're trying to retire, you may not be able to retire. So in other words, not everything into stocks. Folks, I'm a big fan of the stock market, but you can't have 45% all in stocks, okay? You got to, you got to split that up into other things. And that's actually just the average number. A lot of people probably have 70 or 80% and that's really risky. Okay, here's a question. What happens when an industry suffers very slow or no growth, an entire industry? The answer is mergers and buyouts, because that's the only way to grow when your sales aren't growing. And the stagnant video game industry, the technology is amazing in some of these games, but their sales are stagnant right now. Could soon see one of the biggest leverage buyouts in all of American history. Silver Lake Management, that's a private equity firm, and the Saudi Arabian Sovereign Wealth Fund are getting together to bid for Electronic Arts. That's the sports, that's the video game company that has a lot of those great sports games like college football and Madden, the Madden football game. Anyway, they are working together to try to buy it and it would value the company at $50 billion. That's a pretty amazing valuation. But there are some people very worried about this news because if this buyout goes through, there's a lot of people who think that this is a sign that the current executives at EA Electronic Arts are really worried about the company ever really making a lot of money again or looking to get out while the getting's good. And that could be bad news for that company. But boy, these video games are pretty amazing. I think one of the problems with these companies is they've made the games too good. Remember when we were kids and Atari, you played the game for three weeks, you saw all it had to offer, and then you had to buy a new one. Some of these games now that they have, you could play them for years and not explore all the amazing aspects of it. And I think that they were a little bit too short sighted in that you got to get people coming back to you all a lot. That's the way it works. All right, now for a possible game changer, or really maybe a 4D chess game. Reports are circulating out of China that one of the reasons why President Xi Jinping has been a little bit more compliant with President Trump and trade talks lately is because he's looking for something else in return. The worry among foreign policy experts is that Xi Jinping is trying to get President Trump to look the other way and not push for Taiwanese independence. True Taiwanese independence. Of course, Taiwan is factually independent, but they are not recognized as an independent country. They don't have a seat at the United nations and on and on. Now she wants that to stay that way. And apparently he's hoping that if he makes deals with the United States, opens up more of the Chinese markets to US Products and doesn't fight so much about tariffs on his products, that will somehow allow this to happen. Something to watch for in the coming weeks. All right, ladies and gentlemen, start your engines. It's moving America. Sponsored by ArtilleryTea Company ArtilleryTeaCo.com Use promo code LIBERTY for 20% off your order. Artillery Tea is all natural, whole leaf. The tea bags are chemical free and each teabag can be used twice. Artillery Tea Company is family and veteran owned and operated, and a portion of your purchase goes to help veteran and first responder charities. Artilleryteco.com, promo code LIBERTY for 20% off of your order. Well, here's one thing you don't want to bring home from work. Legionnaires disease. No, I'm not kidding. That's the very severe form of pneumonia that spreads from bacteria in H Vac Systems. H Vac Systems was first discovered in the early 1980s, by the way. It can be deadly. It's not. It's no joke. And that's exactly what happened at GM's Tech center building in Warren, Michigan. Two people at that Tech center came down with Legionnaires disease. They had to scrub the entire H Vac system, scrub the whole building. They've been working on it. The good news is GM says it will reopen starting on Wednesday. But that is a very scary situation, should not happen. So they're working on how it happened and certainly stopping it from happening it again. Well, I've been telling you about this cyber attack against Jaguar Land Rover in Britain and how severe it's been. I've been talking about how they haven't built one new car off their assembly line now in more than a month. So you knew this was happening. The UK Government is bailing out Jaguar and Land Rover. They're giving them a $2 billion loan. I don't know if that's going to be a loan that they actually have to pay back, but they're trying to help them just stay afloat while they fix this problem. Now, the reason why I keep reporting on this is not to dunk on Jaguar Land Rover all that much. That's not necessary. But to remind everybody that we better have all of our ducks in a row at our auto companies. If they have a successful attack like this at GM or against Ford or Chrysler or Jeep, that's going to be a very, very big blow, not just to those companies, but to this country. So I'm hoping that our cybersecurity experts are studying exactly what happened to Jaguar Land Rover, finding out exactly where they made a mistake with their defenses and not copying it, because that $2 billion loan that they're getting from the UK government's probably going to get bigger, and I don't know if they're ever going to get that money back. All right, I'm asking you now, have you ever heard of the broken windows theory of law enforcement? It goes like this. It tells the local police forces in cities where there's vandalism, literally broken windows or graffiti or things like that, to arrest the people responsible, even though it's technically only a misdemeanor. And why? Because those people tend to be either already committing more serious crimes or are on the way to doing so. And this is your last chance to scare them straight. This is a big part of the theory that helped New York City get back on its feet. With William Bratton. Bratton, the police commissioner, and Rudy Giuliani, they started to implement this policy in the mid-90s, and it turned things around quickly. Well, the city of Memphis is thinking of doing this, but with speeding. Now, let me ask you, someone at 2 or 3am who's going 70 miles in a 35 zone, you think there's a chance that they're also a criminal doing other things much worse? Well, the Memphis police think so, too. And they are going to be stepping up their night patrols in Memphis for speeders. Obviously, there's a lot more that needs to be done. The National Guard is going there as well. But this is not a bad idea. Anybody up, let alone speeding at 2 or 3am on a kind of regular basis, I'm thinking there's a good chance that person's a criminal, either coming from a criminal act or on their way and maybe has a pretty big record. So the Memphis Street Patrol is going to be stepped up. All right. Now for that thing of beauty that I promised you. What you're going to be looking at now is an original, one of the original 300 Corvettes made by Chevrolet in 1953. It's in the news because it recently came to be owned by a guy named James Sheehan. He's a home builder in Arizona. He's become a celebrity of types in the car collecting world, especially the Corvette world. He has a pretty big Corvette collection, but this is now the jewel in his collection. And the reason why he's in the news as well as all of that is because the Wall Street Journal gave him a nice piece of real estate in the Weekend Journal writing about how he got this Corvette, how he got into the business of, well, it's not really business, it's a hobby of collecting Corvettes and how he's created a Corvette club that is now expanding all over the country. And check that out. It is a really nice piece of work. I wonder how much it costs to fill up the tank there. I don't think they have a very big tank, so I guess he has to fill up a lot. But that is a very pretty car. Okay. Coming up, the story has been out of the national news headlines for the last couple of weeks, but please don't forget it. The murder of Ukrainian refugee Rina Zyrutska. It's still big news in North Carolina and we're about to talk to a North Carolina leader trying to do something about it, making sure it never happens again. American Sunrise, early edition. We'll be right back.

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Learn [e-mail] It's Monday, September 29th. Here are this morning's top stories. America has become a nation divided between those who commit or enable violence and those who want to do something to stop it. The latest flashpoint is Portland, Oregon, but there aren't really any sidelines anymore. Speaking of violence in America, the man who attacked a Mormon church in suburban Flint Michigan yesterday with shots fired and explosives, has been identified as a 40 year old veteran of the Iraq war. Police and the FBI are searching for a motive. He turned the gun on himself, we think, or he killed. He died somehow. We're still looking for all the details. The shooter was killed and so was one innocent victim. In New York, incumbent Eric Adams drops out of the mayor's race. But is this a case of too little, too late to stop Zoran Mamdani from winning? And President Trump will meet with congressional leaders today to discuss what it will take to pass just a regular spending bill and avoid a government shutdown, the same kind of spending bill the Democrats were in favor of just a couple of months ago. One thing is for sure, the stigma of a government shutdown is no longer such a big problem for anyone in the polls. American Sunrise EARLY Edition continues now. Welcome back to American Sunrise EARLY Edition special. Welcome to those of you very active on the Getter chat. And you can also watch live not only on Getter but on Rumble. You can watch on an Amazon fire stick. You can watch on X either live or later in the day if you save the link. You can watch on substack and comment, comment on all these places. I'm watching, I'm watching what you're saying and I'm reading it. And sometimes, sometimes actually a lot I learned from it. Joining us now is attorney and candidate for the U.S. senate from North Carolina, Republican Don Brown. Don, before I get into the issues that are specifically affecting your state alone, I have to ask you about things like Portland, where there's been anti ice riots and attacks on federal agents. President Trump was trying to send troops there. I think it's going to happen. But the governor of Oregon, mayor of Portland are pushing back on him and you even have, actually, this isn't that different from what's going on in North Carolina. You have local politicians there who are pushing back on the rule of law and any kind of real help coming from the Trump administration to get things done. I just feel like we're in a civil war here in America. This reminds me of Confederate leaders who were people who eventually became Confederate leaders, blocking federal troops from trying to keep order in this country. I wish, I mean, I'm not trying to be hysterical here, but I don't know what else to call it. It's becoming kinetic. People are dying, literally. I wonder if you're as alarmed as I am.

[Don Brown]

Pretty much alarmed. You've nailed it on the head. There is a literal civil war on the streets. The president of The United States. First off, you go back to the, to the preamble of the Constitution. One of the goals in our preamble and go look at the preamble when you want to revisit the goals of government is to ensure domestic tranquility. The President of the United States has the authority to send in the National Guard to these, the cities where domestic tranquility and, and rampant crime have taken over with or without the request from the local authorities. There's plenty of historical precedent. You look into the Insurrection act and when Americans constitutional rights and liberties are being threatened, the President can go ahead and send in troops. It's been done historically. President Eisenhower did it to integrate the University of Arkansas when he sent in the 101st Airborne actually. And President Kennedy in integrating the University of Michigan sentence troops in. Excuse me, I meant to say University of Mississippi, not Michigan sent troops in when James Meredith was being pushed away. And so the President has the authority to do it. And these local leaders who are soft on crime and pro crime and just want to kiss up to antifa and all these communist left wing groups that are intent on unraveling civil society, they're not relevant. So I'm going to encourage the President to do what he needs to do. And we saw what's happened in Washington D.C. already with the crime rate dramatically dropping. That's what it's going to take to try to get some of these out of control blue cities back into a situation where folks can walk the streets without worry about being mugged or murdered.

[Jake Novak]

And also federal agents being able to carry out their legal duties to find violent illegal aliens and things like that and to deport them without worrying about some militia attacking them in the streets. Now Don Brown, let's talk about something called Urena's Law. It's meant to put an end to some of the worst practices that led to her murder on that commuter train in Charlotte by a man who had been arrested 14 times and was still out on the streets, all caught on tape. I haven't just convicted the man. There it is, you can see it right there. This is not a question of, this is not a murder mystery. Sadly, this is. We know exactly what happened here. Now we had that law passed in the North Carolina legislature, but I gotta tell you, your governor, Josh Stein, who made some comments after the passage, he was very, very murky on it. I don't think he's gonna sign it. How about you?

[Don Brown]

Well, it doesn't appear to be the case. He has 10 days. I do commend the Republican North Carolina General assembly for signing the law. The idea, Jake, is to try to stop this revolving door practice, this pretrial revolving door practice where you have an animal like the animal that killed this, this poor young Ukrainian immigrant who had 14 prior simply coming in and was released on the no cash bond type of situation. The law is designed to cut that down and eliminate it for multiple offenders. It's just plain common sense. North Carolina General Assembly Stein is sitting around, he's made comments. You know, he is a soft on crime governor like the previous governor Roy Cooper. I'm going to beat in the Democrat and the, in the Republican United States Senate race. He's going to be the Democrat nominee. They've been soft on crime and Cooper will probably either sit on it or veto it. I do think there probably are enough votes in the General assembly to override him. The North Carolina House is one short, one vote short of being veto proof anyway. And the General assembly has overridden 8 out of 12 gubernatorial vetoes last month. And I think that will probably happen. But the fact that he's even hesitating is a stark commentary on the reason this young lady got killed. Anyway, it goes back to Democrats soft on crime policies.

[Jake Novak]

Yeah. And it also goes back to how the DNC has staffed up every Democrat elected official from mayor on up in this country. And so their staffs work for the dnc. They don't work for their titular boss, Josh Stein. If he has anyone who's actually working for him would tell him what's the question. Of course you're going to sign this, but they're getting calls from D.C. they're getting calls from Soros and that's who runs these offices. This is happening here in New York too. Kathy Hochul's approval rating would be 30 points higher if she actually had someone working for her and for New York. But that's not the case. Don, this weekend, speaking of North Carolina marked the one year anniversary of the Helene. This, the Helene storm caused massive flooding in western North Carolina. Can you tell us how that recovery process is going? I know there's still a long way to go there, isn't there?

[Don Brown]

There is. I was in western North Carolina over the weekend, both in McDowell county and then, and then came down to Catawba County. And remember to mark the one year anniversary, there's still a long way to go. This is another indictment on Democrat administration's failure to act. I mean, the federal government under Joe Biden did not send the military in. That storm came in on the 27th of September. We didn't see any in a US military presence until October 3rd. Absolutely ridiculous. It has been Christian groups and charitable groups and civilians on the ground working with first responders that have provided most of the help. And a lot of progress has been made. We got a long ways to go. The Democrat governor of North Carolina, Roy Cooper, withheld money from eastern North Carolina Hurricane Matthew years ago. So the eastern and western parts of the states get the short end of the stick. The federal government. The Democrat governor was off in New York apparently on a fundraiser when this thing came down the pike. And there's a lot of hostility among the locals toward the Democrat reaction. But keep western Northcon in prayer. It's been a year, but there's people still suffering, people still homeless, people who still haven't rebuilt and we got a lot of work left to do.

[Jake Novak]

Yeah, not to make it all discouraging, as you mentioned, there's been people who've been helping out people, the faith based groups that have done it. For those of you who haven't seen the story about how Amish people have come and built tiny houses for tons of the folks who were de housed by the storm and the flooding, please read up on that just to get some encouragement in addition to the fight that has to go on here. All right, now I wanted to carve out, you know, some time here to talk about specifically your Senate race. You're going up against Michael Whatley for the Republican nomination for the Senate. And it looks like Roy Cooper, the former Democrat governor, is definitely going to be the Democrat nominee. And this is all to replace Thom Tillis, who probably is just he's in the top three of the most least popular Republican senators among Republicans because he's governed so much like a Democrat. Honestly, that's why he's not running again, why the voters are going to go for an actual Democrat. I don't know. How is the race going and what are the, what do you think will be the big issues that could turn this election in North Carolina next year?

[Don Brown]

Well, the race is going to be going better if Whatley would had the courage to debate me. He's already turned down one debate request set for set from the Onslow County Republican Party in the primary. The issue is going to be election integrity. Whatley claims to be the king of election integrity, yet he got elected by a cell phone vote or reelected a state chair. And that's caused a lot of division in the party. Medical freedom is going to be an issue. I have been a champion of medical freedom. A fought against Fauci's jab, took it to federal court, even to the 4th Circuit. Whatley pushed a jab when he was chair of the North Carolina Republican Party. And then Whatley endorsed Tillis in March after Tillis tried to tube the nomination of my friend Pete Headseth and tubed the U.S. attorney nomination in D.C. and so therefore, these are going to be some of the issues we're going to be discussing as we move forward into the primary. We're going to win the primary and then I'm going to chase Roy Cooper all over the state and prosecute him. I'm the only former prosecutor on the Republican side has actually ever sent anybody to prison. I'm going to remind Roy Cooper of his record how he shut the state down, destroyed North Carolina's economy during COVID imposed unconstitutional penalties. The last time I saw my dad alive, Jake was looking through the glass of a nursing home from the outside of a cold court there in Plymouth, North Carolina, was standing on the grass and my sister, he separated dying Americans, dying North Carolinians from their family members during COVID We're going to remind him of that. We're finally we're going to remind him of how he commuted the sentence of 15 murderers on New Year's Eve before he stepped out of office. We're going to chase him all over the state. We're going to take him down. We're going to I'm going to prosecute the case against Roy Cooper and we're going to beat him. And I'm looking forward to it.

[Jake Novak]

Well, I'm looking forward to following that election because it's going to be an interesting, interesting battle. One of the more interesting Senate races coming up next year. Don Brown, thank you so much for joining us. Have a great rest of your week.

[Don Brown]

Jake, thank you so much. Appreciate you.

[Jake Novak]

Sure. Coming up, David Brody and I will discuss whether New York City now has a chance to dodge a terrible outcome now that Eric Adams has dropped out of the race for mayor. I don't know. American Sunrise, early edition. We'll be right back.

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That'S a live look at the Capitol building in Washington, D.C. a lot going on in Washington today getting up against that government shutdown deadline. President Trump will be meeting with congressional leaders to talk about that. Also, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu will be visiting at the White House. And usually he makes a call to Congress as well. So I assume he'll be there as well. Busy day in Washington, D.C. welcome back. Welcome back to American Sunrise, Early Edition. I'm Jake Novak. It's a Monday. I hope that you were, you know, at least had some of your eyes open over the weekend because it was a very busy news weekend and that included yesterday's news that current New York City Mayor Eric Adams is dropping out of the race for reelection, leaving it now basically a three man race. But most people in the polls would say it's now a two man race between Zoran Mamdani and Andrew Cuomo. David Brody joins us now. David, I really think this is a case of too little, too late. But even if this been done earlier, the problem is we have a great city like New York. You can make all the jokes you want. Millions and millions of people. There are some really, really great people here. And we just keep getting represented. Our choices seem to continue to be just incredibly below the quality of your average cool New Yorker. I don't know what's going on here.

[David Brody]

Well, Mamdani makes Ed Koch look like MAGA at this point. I mean, I mean, that's how bad this has gotten in New York. And you know, you're from New York, I'm from, from New York.

[Jake Novak]

I'm from Jersey.

[David Brody]

You're from Jersey. That sounds, wasn't that Joe Piscobo? Didn't he say that? Saturday life. Yeah. So, so obviously there are major problems. Look, I've done the math. You've done the math. You look at the, look at the polls. I mean, could it technically happen if Sliwa and now Adams is out and Sliwa gets out and okay, I've done the math. Yeah, maybe Cuomo beats him by a percentage point or two. But come on, that's pie in the sky. And I don't really think it's going to go down analytically and statistically that way at all. I think you'll still get some, some crossover, maybe a percentage or two from Eric Adams. And even if not, people will stay home. The point is, is that I still don't see even if everybody got out, including your mother and my mother, there's just no way at this point that Mamdani loses. You know, what's interesting here is that he has tried to dial back some, some of his rhetoric, some of his positions. Oh, this just and he's still anti Israel, he's still anti Semitic. But beyond all of that, we still know about the city owned grocery stores that he's not backed down from. He still wants $30 an hour minimum wage. I mean you just go down the list. Universal pre K or excuse me, not pre K, all of child care, universal childcare and others. So, you know, he's tried to at least dial some of that back, but that just shows you how radical he is that in liberal New York he's actually had to dial some of this back. I mean, that should tell you everything you need to know.

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Yeah, well, he didn't dial this back. Over the weekend he said that he's willing to spend $100 million of additional taxpayer money to provide illegal aliens with league with lawyers and other legal support to fight deportation. Taking the citizens taxpayers money. And there's a lot of poor people in New York who pay taxes, okay, and take their money to help the people who are here illegally continue to take the resources away from us. You know, this is like, and it's all, this is like this is highway robbery. And it's amazing to me that this is that he felt comfortable enough to push that. That tells me he knows he's winning. He wouldn't say that if he didn't think he had this thing in the bag.

[David Brody]

It makes me think of Chicago with a lot of the protests at city council meetings, you know, where it was Lori Lightfoot and then the current mayor as well. You know, basically, you know, you got a lot of these protesters. I say protesters, they literally showed up at city council meetings, say, wait a minute, hold on. Many within the African American community saying, hold on for a second, wait, illegal immigrants are getting benefits. You should go to us. So anyhow, not I wonder. I believe that type of thing will probably end up happening to Mamdani. And look, as you know with Eric Adams, I mean that was one of the big things. It wasn't just crime, it was that illegal immigration push in the Biden administration that really got Adams to turn. So, so I think that could be the inflection point that really kind of does in Mom. Don Mumdami. Three things, three inflection points. I'll be quickly, be quick. Israel, Immigration and safety, you put them all together. I think it's a cauldron and I think it's brewing in the city.

[Jake Novak]

It doesn't look good. Simple as that. But what does look good is the next two hours because you have American Sunrise with David T. Bates and Dr. Gina. I'll be joining in the 9am hour and American Sunrise early edition will be back tomorrow at 7am I will be taking attendance. See you then.

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