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David Brody
Coming up on the second hour of American Sunrise. Matt Gaetz withdraws his nomination to be the next Attorney General. Pam Bondi. She is in. Are there going to be any bumps in the confirmation process this time around? We'll discuss. Plus, Mika Brzezinski of Morning Joe speaks out after the ratings plummet following her and her husband Joe Scarborough's meeting with President Elect Trump. We have those remarks. And finally, the International Criminal Court issued a warrant for Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's arrest. Will anything come of it? We have that story. So much more on the second hour of American Sunrise on a puppy Friday. Freedom Friday next. Good morning America.
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Mary Kathyrn Ham
Welcome to American Sunrise. Whether it's culture, we have breaking news to share with you. Politics.
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David Brody
President Trump is joining us live now from Florida.
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Bo Davidson
We've got you covered.
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David Brody
This is what it looks like to be a patriot.
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Dr. Gina
We have to protect the American family.
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Mary Kathyrn Ham
The American dream is still alive.
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David Brody
I'm David Brody. I'm terrence.
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Mary Kathyrn Ham
And I'm Dr. Gina.
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David Brody
And welcome back, everybody, to the second hour of American Sunrise. I'm David Brody coming to you from Washington, D.C. let's bring in Dr. G. She's in West Palm. And of course, we have Bo Davidson with us, who is also down in West Palm. Listen, crisis alert. It is what now. What is the weather in West Palm? Are you both okay and have you taken shelter?
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Dr. Gina
It is 55 degrees, David. It is cold here and no, we are not okay. This is when the iguanas start falling out of the trees, I believe.
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Mary Kathyrn Ham
Is that right, Dr. G. And actually, it's a hazard. The iguanas fall on people sometimes. And some of these iguanas are as big as small crocodiles. So, yeah, it's a thing. They fall out of the trees.
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David Brody
Iguanas falling on people in Florida at 55 degrees. This is crisis mode. And why is this not the lead story across America today? That's what I want to know. Someone please tell me. Well, it's the lead story here since I brought it up. Bo, by the way, great to see you in for Terrence today. Good to see you, sir.
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Dr. Gina
Thank you so much, David. And thank you, Dr. G. I appreciate it. Well, let's get to some of the headlines. Pollster Nate Silver is calling on Joe Biden to resign the presidency. Silver says that it is there. Is there any particular reason Biden is competent enough to finish out his term and added that there are very high stakes decisions that need to be made. So Kamala Harris should serve out the last two months. Now, Biden withdrew from the election after his debate with now President elect Trump as questions about his capacity came up. Meanwhile, President elect Trump's incoming border czar, Tom Homan, says that the administration will use the land Texas offered for mass deportations of illegal aliens. Homan says that the illegal aliens have to be detained for a short time while they get travel documents from their host country and secure flights, along with other logistics. The state offered 1,400 acres of land for various facilities. And finally today, the chief of the Transportation Security Administration, David Pakoski, says he would like to continue serving under President elect Trump. Pocoskey says that he loves the job and that it's important for continuity in the TSA to finish out his second term. Pocoskey was unanimously confirmed in 2017 during Trump's first term. Now let's send it back over to David Brody. David?
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David Brody
All right, Bo, appreciate it. As we've been talking about all morning, Matt Gaetz withdraws his name from being nominated for Attorney General. Let's read the tweet or the X or whatever it's called nowadays. I have no clue, quote, I had excellent meetings with senators yesterday. You did? Anyhow, I appreciate their thoughtful feedback and the incredible support of so many. While the momentum was strong, it is clear that my confirmation was unfairly becoming a distraction to the critical work of the Trump Vance transition. That would be the understatement of the week. There is no time to waste on a needlessly protracted Washington scuffle. Thus, I'll be withdrawing my name from consideration to serve as Attorney General, Trump's DOJ must be in place and ready on day one. That is true for sure. So then a short time after Trump announced on Truth Social, he announced this, that Trump, excuse me, the former Florida Attorney General Pam Bonney is going to be the next AG nominee. And this is what he said. Let's all read together, shall we? It's like responsive reading in temple or in church. I don't know. Pam will refocus the DOJ to its intended purpose of fighting crime and making America safe again. I've known Pam for many years. She's smart, tough, and is an America first fighter who will do a terrific job as Attorney General, end of quote. All right, for more, let's bring in former Trump campaign adviser Jason Meister. Jason, good to see you on this Friday. What do you make of the Bondi pick?
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Jason Meister
Look, I think she's an excellent pick. She's bold, fearless, experienced. But I think that, taking a step back, I do think that yesterday the Deep State had a win I like to call balls and strikes. Matt Gates was an excellent choice. He would have taken a wrecking ball to the Department of Justice, which is what is needed right now. We need a fighter in there. We need to dismantle these three letter agencies. They have been weaponized by the Democratic Party, whether it's the FBI, the CIA, the doj. And so I think we need to take a step back and understand the battle that we're up against.
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Dr. Gina
Yeah, that's true, Jason. That's 100% true, Jason. FEMA is coming under fire for new whistleblower claims about how they view Trump supporters. House Oversight Committee Chairman James Comer says his staff came in contact with a whistleblower that said FEMA contractors viewed Trump supporters as domestic terrorists. Can you believe that? Comer posted this on Twitter. My staff just made contact with a new whistleblower who provided a credible account that a FEMA contractor visited the home of an elderly disabled veteran's family around October 10th. While there, he recommended that the family remove Trump campaign materials and signs from their house and yard, stating that his FEMA supervisors view Trump supporters as domestic terrorists. Jason, how damning is this?
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Jason Meister
Look, it's very damning. It's despicable. But at the end of the day, it's not a surprise when you've had rhetoric in this country for the last decade labeling Trump supporters as Nazis, likening them to Hitler, calling them garbage. Just the rhetoric that the Democratic Party has thrown against over half this country at this point. Right? 70% of this country that this is going to permeate through every single part of our government. And this is what the result is. People's lives are now at risk. It's a very dangerous time in this country and I hope that Donald Trump and his administration clean this all up.
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Mary Kathyrn Ham
Jason, one of the Morning Joe hosts is speaking out after the ratings plummet following their meeting with President Elect Trump. Mika Brzezinski said she was shocked by the backlash, but added that she believes that people are scared. And now we're seeing reports that Comcast is considering spinning off its cable news networks. Jason, is this the beginning of the end for the regime? MEDIA?
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Jason Meister
Yeah, look, these are dinosaurs. They're going extinct. If anything that you could take away from this past election cycle was that the average American with a smartphone and a social media account broke the back of the corporate media. I mean, following my Instagram or my X account, you got more accurate information watching CNN panels, MSNBC panels and reading the New York Times op ed pages. So look, I think Democrats, voters that lost this election need to take a step back and realize that they're being misinformed. They're actually the ones getting fed propaganda. They have to understand that there's a reason why the Republican Party swept every single swing state. The House, the Senate, the White house got over 5 million in the popular vote and these people thought that they were running up against Nazis. So, you know, you have to take some self reflection and say, where am I getting my information from? Perhaps I should open up an X account and start to look for the information from all sides. And I think that's the big takeaway here. And I think they're all dinosaurs and they're going extinct.
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Bo Davidson
Yeah.
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Dr. Gina
Jason, it's so interesting to me that MSNBC is under this new conglomerate. They're going to call it SpinCo because it's all spin. No fax on that network. They really, they do need a reckoning, that's for sure. Jason, I want to return just for a minute to Pam Bondi. I saw a press conference from her. It wasn't that long ago where she really was attacking the issue of fentanyl. That's been a big problem, obviously, with a porous border. I assume Pam Bondi is going to be swept through this confirmation process. She's obviously very capable. Where do you think the vulnerabilities are in our border regarding fentanyl? And what can Pam Bondi do to fix that particular issue that affects so many people under the age of about 45 and can kills them?
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Jason Meister
Yeah, it's just murdering our children and it's flooding over this open southern border. But I think that, look, Pambani has been an outspoken, bold leader on this issue. I think that there are things that we can do very quickly once we secure the border. I think that's the most important thing because it's flooding into our, into all of our major cities, obviously permeating through our school system. And so I think that this has to be laser focused by Pam Bondi. I agree with you. By the way, the Democrats have lost a lot of political capital where they kavanaughed Matt Gaetz. And I think that they're gonna have to easily put push Pondi through now at this point.
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Bo Davidson
Yeah, yeah.
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David Brody
By the way, speaking of Democrats, makes me think of the media because it's basically one in the same. And they were telling us that Donald Trump was gonna be the misogynist in chief. I mean, they told us that. And then I'm just doing a quick little scribble note here. Let's see, there's Pam Bondi for Attorney General Kristi Noma, DHS, Tulsi Gabbard at DNI, Linda McMahon, the education secretary. Oh, wait, I'm sorry, I got to put my glasses on more than Caroline Levitt, White House Press secretary. Oh, and did I bury the lead? The first women woman. Excuse me, Chief of Staff Susie Wiles. I mean that this is exactly the problem that the media speaks. And it's the opposite is true, Jason.
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Jason Meister
It's the exact opposite. I don't think there's a president in modern American history that has more women and strong women, intelligent women fighters than Donald Trump. He surrounds himself with some of the most strong, intelligent, articulate women. He did it in his first term and he's doing it again in this term.
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David Brody
Yeah. And by the way, Mark Cuban, we can send him to Cuba because I don't want to hear anything about more about Mark Cuban. I'm sorry, Gina, go ahead.
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Mary Kathyrn Ham
Well, he's been, he's been very quiet. I will say that for him. No, but when you look at what President Trump has done so far, it's been like almost like if you could cast your favorite play or your favorite movie, like this is kind of how it's gone. Most of these people, we all know, we know them. You know, these are people that we've all met, have been very accessible. These are real people. I'm so used to these cabinets being appointed, and it's a bunch of bureaucrats that I've never heard of and never met that is not the case with President Trump. What do you predict is next?
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Jason Meister
Yeah, I think that's a great point, actually. You know, he's learned tremendous lessons from his first term. I think personnel was one of the largest issues. But it's very clear to me that these cabinet positions that he's been nominating, he's really learned his lessons. He's choosing America first candidates.
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Bo Davidson
He.
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Jason Meister
Look, I always said this from the beginning. Donald Trump was a real estate tycoon. He sharpened his teeth in New York City real estate. He developed the skyline. But his greatest renovation, his greatest gut renovation is his gut renovation of the Republican Party. Now, there's still a lot of dead wood that needs to be removed, Mitch McConnell being one of them. Look, the Cheney's, he took down the Bush dynasty, the Cheney dynasty. He's taking a wrecking ball to the entire Democratic corrupt establishment. And I think his greatest renovation is his renovation of the Republican Party.
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Mary Kathyrn Ham
Sounds like it might be.
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David Brody
All right. Well, Jason, we really appreciate your time here. And by the way, congratulations on the victory. It was a victory for the American people, but you put a lot of hard work into this. So we just want to congratulate you.
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Mary Kathyrn Ham
You.
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David Brody
Thank you.
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Jason Meister
Thank you. You too.
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David Brody
All right, coming up is Russia's warning to the world as follows. Mess with the motherland and you're going to get the big bombs. The new warning Putin is sending the west, that's coming up. But first, are we finally going to see the JFK assassination files? Let me see them. We explore that as we get set to flush the CIA down the toilet. American Sunrise returning out of the Friday after this.
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Mary Kathyrn Ham
Hey there. I'm Mary Kathryn Hamm.
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Carol Markowitz
And I'm Carol Markowitz. We've been in political media for a long time.
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Mary Kathyrn Ham
Long enough to know that it's gotten, well, a little insane.
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Carol Markowitz
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Mary Kathyrn Ham
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Carol Markowitz
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Mary Kathyrn Ham
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Carol Markowitz
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David Brody
Welcome back, everybody, to American Sunrise. I'm David Brody. Great to have you with us this morning. Time now to drain the swamp. We do it every day. This morning, we're flushing out. There they go. It's the CIA, everybody. President elect Trump set for a clash, by the way, with the CIA over the release of all the files related to the JFK assassination. And there are plenty of. Trump has pledged to release all the files. The CIA expected to push back against the move. Of course, RFK Jr. Who is set to become part of Trump's new administration, wants to see the documents released. As you might imagine, he claims the CIA was involved in the assassination and pleaded with the Biden Harris administration to get the files released. All right, for more, let's bring in presidential historian and author of the new book. Well, I say the new book, it's been out for a little bit, but it's still new. The Search for Reagan, the Appealing Intellectual Conservatism of Ronald Reagan. Greg Shirley with us. Craig, good to see you. So Trump's pick to run the CIA is going to be. Yeah, he's going to be John Radcliffe. That'll be an interesting decision on hand as to whether or not he releases the files. How do you see this playing out, Craig?
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Craig Shirley
Well, you know, as far as releasing the files, David, the first rule of the bureaucracy is to defend the bureaucracy, right. Is that the CIA has not released them in 61 years. And they're going to be reticent about releasing them. But I really, really would be surprised if they're released, if they show anything other than what really happened. You know, it's been 61 years to this day, and I still remember it like it was yesterday. I remember I was in second grade and the principal came in and told us the president had been assassinated. She had mascaras streaming down her cheeks. And I went home and we all cried. But in 61 years, nobody has ever come forward with any plausible evidence of a conspiracy to kill John Kennedy. I still. The reason, you know, David, there's a very good reason we like moral balance in our lives, is that the badness of the British Empire hadn't met by the goodness of the, of George Washington, the badness of the south had to be met. By the goodness of Abraham Lincoln. The badness of Nazi Germany had to be met by the goodness of America. We like moral balance in our lives and we can't tolerate the idea that this little pips week, Lee Harvey Oswald killed the handsome prince, the most powerful man in the world. Rich, successful hero of World War II. He had everything and we can't stand the idea, so we've had to heavy it up for years. It was the Mafia, it was the Cubans, it was the Russians, it was the CIA, it was the military industrial complex. The best book I've read all the books on the death of a president and executive action. David, the best book ever written on this subject is Case Closed by Gerald Posner. I urge you, if you haven't read it already, I urge you to read it. It came out about 10, 15 years ago, but in it he proves pretty conclusively that Lee Harvey Oswald acted alone. Now the Secret Service was at fault for not securing the parade route, but they were not complicit. I don't believe in the assassination of John Kennedy.
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David Brody
Well, here's the thing though, there's a lot of skepticism. The CIA doesn't have a great track record, so it's legitimate for people to A, question it and B, want to see the details.
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Craig Shirley
Yeah, absolutely. And the worst thing that, David, you know, the worst that ever happened to the history of the Kennedy assassination was the Zapruder film which only showed him being assassinated, but it showed him how he was assassinated and the making of that stupid movie JFK by, I can't recall. Yeah, Oliver, what's his name?
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David Brody
Oliver Stone. Oliver Stone.
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Craig Shirley
Oliver Stone, yes, thank you. Yes. Yeah, Paranoid Oliver Stone. It contributed nothing except to this nation's paranoia about conspiracy to kill JFK and really did disservice to his memory and to history.
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David Brody
Yeah. By the way, real quick, we have less than a minute left. There's been a lot of pushback on some of Trump's cabinet picks, obviously. Gates, what about historically? Have you ever seen this level? Not you, because you haven't been around for 250 years, but have you seen this? It feels like though some days it feels like it. I know, I knew you were going to say that. Has it ever seen, have we ever seen this kind of level of pushback historically to President's Picks? I mean, I know it's happened historically, but it just seems like it's, it's ramped up quite a bit here.
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Craig Shirley
Well, this is more partisan than before, but I do recall when Jimmy Carter nominated Ted Sorensen to run the CIA. Ironically, in early 1977, he was taken down when conservatives mounted a campaign against his nomination because he was so he was a great speechwriter, but his loyalties were very suspect. So not his loyalties, but just his competency was very suspect. So it has happened in the past. Of course, Nixon lost two Supreme Court nominations, Harold Coswell and another individual. So it has happened in the past. But this one, this appears, David, to be much more partisan, much more, you know, the left is still not learning the lessons of the election is that, you know, Donald Trump has handed them a gift with his mass deportation, but the governor has a wide support of the American people. But you got Democratic governors who are doubling down opposing it.
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Bo Davidson
Yeah.
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David Brody
Gotta run on a tight deadline. Craig, Shirley, great to have you. As always, happy Thanksgiving to you and your family.
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Craig Shirley
Happy Thanksgiving, David. Take care.
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David Brody
All right, sounds good. Coming up on American Sunrise, will some or Most of those J6ers be pardoned by President Trump? Donna Fiducia will be here in just a bit with her thoughts. First, though, Putin lets it be known if the west wants war. Russia.
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Bo Davidson
Yo, yo, yo.
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David Brody
We're ready. I don't know if he said yo, yo, yo. After firing off potential ICBMs, what is the next move for Moscow's military? More American Sunrise in a minute. Jackson, Mississippi. Happy, everybody, on a freedom Friday here on American Sunrise. Welcome back. The bell at the New York Stock Exchange is going to ring in just a few minutes, but as we wait, let's take a quick look at the future. So as I put on my glasses, otherwise, I don't know what I'm saying.
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Mary Kathyrn Ham
Hey there. I'm Mary Katherine Ham.
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Carol Markowitz
And I'm Carol Markowitz. We've been in political media for a long time.
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Mary Kathyrn Ham
Long enough to know that it's gotten, well, a little insane.
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Carol Markowitz
That's why we started Normalely a podcast for people who are over the hysteria and just want clarity.
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Mary Kathyrn Ham
We talk about the issues that actually matter to the country without panic, without yelling, and with a healthy dose of humor.
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Carol Markowitz
We don't take ourselves too seriously, but we do take the truth seriously.
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Mary Kathyrn Ham
So if you're into common sense, sanity and some occasional sass, you're our kind of people. Catch new episodes of Normally Every Tuesday.
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Carol Markowitz
And Thursday on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen.
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David Brody
Well, do the glasses matter? The market here. Dow Jones up a little bit. Futures, we'll see. It's just kind of, how do I say this? I'll use my French. Come see, come saw. Look it up. The S and P down a little bit. And the Nasdaq down quite a bit in the futures. Gold, silver look a little bit better. Crude. Crude oil about roughly equal. Anyhow, more on that in a moment. But first, over to Dr. Gina. Yo, Dr. G in the house. Enough with the yo. I think I'm trying to be relevant and I gotta stop. Gina, good to see you.
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Mary Kathyrn Ham
By the way, Brody, it's always great to see you. Oh, David. Well, listen, the International Criminal Court has issued arrest warrants for Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and his former Defense minister, Yoav Gallant. The top war crimes court also issued a warrant for a Hamas leader. Netanyahu is slammed. Netanyahu has rather slammed the warrant and called the court's actions absurd and false. Estimates show that more than 40,000 people have been killed in Gaza due to the war that was launched after the October 7 attacks carried out by Hamas. For more, let's BRINGGING IN Former FBI special agent, retired Navy SEAL Jonathan Gilliam. Jonathan, how do you see this whole thing ultimately playing out? I mean, we're coming down to where the rubber really meets the road in this, because once Trump is president, things are going to change. But what do you see happening in the meantime?
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Jonathan Gilliam
That would be an interesting question for any other time that would cover two months. But this is an interesting time when we see what's happening in Ukraine and the way that Biden is pushing war now, like he's never pushed for war. The same thing in Israel could potentially happen where it's not the Biden administration that necessarily pushes for that war, but the UN that starts trying to secrete itself in and cause problems. Because, Dr. Jean, you have to realize social media and the airwaves and your phones, those are a battleground now for any war that occurs. And if the UN can get into your phones and into the social media and start pushing out propaganda like putting out warrants for Netanyahu and his former cabinet member, they are going to demonize these individuals. And I watched a speech by a known political scientist last night who's also a Bernie Sanders supporter. And I really wanted to know finally, what is it that the left believes about Israel? And it's unbelievable, the nonsense that not only that they believe, but they push forward. And so what I hope happens is that Netanyahu continues on his systematic push forward to put the distance between him and Hezbollah and continues to eliminate Hamas where they are. And unfortunately, both of those groups, Hezbollah and Hamas, work in and around civilians and they're funded by Iran. So they're not going to go. They're not just going to stop. And so we can't expect Netanyahu to just sit back and do nothing. And we can't expect Iran to stop what they want, which is not anything to do with the Palestinians. It's the elimination of Israel altogether. So it could be escalated war or it could move into the talks because they know that Trump is coming. And that's the latter is what I hope actually happens.
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Mary Kathyrn Ham
Jonathan, Ukraine is claiming Russia fired ICBMs into the country. And this comes after Ukraine reportedly fired long range missiles into Russia and Joe Biden recently gave them permission to fire American made missiles into Russia. How big of a hole will the Biden team dig for Trump to have to dig his way out of on this issue?
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Jonathan Gilliam
I think it's gonna be a significant hole. I think Trump is going to have to do unconventional things, which he's the best at that. And one of those things is going to be putting himself in conversation with Putin. I believe that Trump is going to have to work this out with Putin and with NATO and Zelensky. But Putin is going to have to be in this and they're going to have to work this out because now it goes beyond the border. Now it goes into Russia with our weapons and with NATO weapons. And that's a huge instigation of Putin, it appears, try to get him to do things so the Biden administration can send as much money as they possibly can into the Ukraine before January.
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Mary Kathyrn Ham
Well, it's going to be interesting. And we'll have you back to follow with us. Thank you so much, Jonathan Gilliam for being on the show today.
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Jonathan Gilliam
Dr. Gina, can I say one more thing quickly?
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Mary Kathyrn Ham
Yes.
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Jonathan Gilliam
I think right now I listened to Mike Rogers interview yesterday on Fox News about being the FBI director. I think that besides Pam Bondi and Pete Hegseth, this is going to be the most important choice that Trump can make. What I heard from Mike Rogers was a failure.
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Mary Kathyrn Ham
Yeah.
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Jonathan Gilliam
Trump needs somebody in there that is going to outwardly admit the left and the Joe Biden administration, the people that want to wage war have to take priority. That's who has to do.
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Mary Kathyrn Ham
Jonathan, I'm so sorry. We're so out of time. I've just got to let you go. Hard break here, but thank you. Let's head back out to David for the opening bell.
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Bo Davidson
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David Brody
It's time for the opening bell. I hear the bell. I hear the bell. And that means we are underway at the New York Stock Exchange.
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Bo Davidson
Exchange.
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David Brody
And we'll take a look at how it's doing so far because it just started here. It's pretty much what we've been reporting all along, which is basically about even so far. I mean, not much going on at this point. Oh, there you go. You can see it there. Look at that. 0.06, 0.0, 8.01. I mean, the whole thing is just kind of like neutral, at least stuck in neutral in the. In the morning. We'll see how it goes throughout the day here on Real America's Voice. You know, the October 15th deadline has passed, so the question really is, are you prepared for what's coming? Do you owe back taxes? I mean, are your tax returns still unfiled? Have you missed a deadline to file for an extension? Well, now that October 15th is behind us, the IRS may be ramping up enforcement. Oh, great. You could face wage garnishments, frozen bank accounts, even property seizures if you haven't taken action yet. However, there is still hope. Don't we worry? Tax Network USA has helped taxpayers save over $1 billion in tax debt. They filed over 10,000 tax returns. They specialize in helping people like you and me reduce their tax burdens. So they can help you, obviously, in this case. So don't wait any longer. Here's what you do. You go to and visit tnusa.com the promo code is there. We have a promo code code, as you can see it on your screen. So you do that. It's a free consultation. Their experts will walk you through a few simple questions to get you going and to see how much you can save. Act now before the IRS takes more aggressive steps. Take control today. Visit tnusa.com or call 1-800-905-8000. And once again, don't forget the promo code when it comes to getting on that site. All right. Still to come on American Sunrise. Why does Fox News host Jesse Waters not like other men's birthdays? That's interesting. It's going viral and we'll tell you about it. First though, the Capitol Hill geo. Excuse me, Capitol Hill cop who shot and killed Ashley Babbitt on January 6th was no protector of the people. That's a direct quote. And it's according to a report that is shining light on his lengthy disciplinary record. That's next right here on the Mercant Surgery.
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Mary Kathyrn Ham
Hey there. I'm Mary Kathryn Ham.
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Carol Markowitz
And I'm Carol Markowitz. We've been in political media for a long time.
- [32:43]
Mary Kathyrn Ham
Long enough to know that it's gotten, well, a little insane.
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Carol Markowitz
That's why we started normalely a podcast for people who are over the hysteria and just want clarity.
- [32:53]
Mary Kathyrn Ham
We talk about the issues that actually matter to the country without panic, without yelling, and with a healthy dose of humor.
- [32:59]
Carol Markowitz
We don't take ourselves too seriously, but we do take the truth seriously.
- [33:03]
Mary Kathyrn Ham
So if you're into common sense, sanity and some occasional sass, you're our kind of people. Catch new episodes of normally every Tuesday.
- [33:10]
Carol Markowitz
And Thursday on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you listen.
- [33:27]
David Brody
All right.
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Mary Kathyrn Ham
Welcome back to American sunrise. I'm Dr. Gina. Thanks for joining us this morning. We invite you to get in our conversation on Getter and rumble because election 2024 still saucy Capitol Police officer Michael Byrd, who shot and killed Ashley Babbitt during the Jan. 6 protest, has a lengthy disciplinary record. A congressional investigation discovered Byrd has been reprimanded for gun related incidents which include a failure to pass a routine background check shortly after January 6th when attempting to purchase a shotgun for home protection, an unarmed Babbitt was killed. Killed by bird upon peacefully entering the Capitol. For more, let's bring in the co host of Cowboy Logic, Donna Feduccia. Donna, get this. By 2023, Byrd was promoted to the rank of captain by Capitol Police leadership even though at the time he According to what I read from John Solomon at just the News. He at the time he had the gun and killed Ashley Babbitt. He should not have even had a firearm. He was not allowed to have a firearm at that time. Will this man stand for justice here? I mean, will he be brought to justice?
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Donna Feduccia
What's so unbelievable, Dr. Gina, is that the sham J6 committee barely even mentioned Ashley Babbitt. They looked at all kinds of different angles. I don't believe they even had one person talk about her in their live testimony that they put on primetime. I think she was mentioned because we've talked to Mickey Whithoff numerous times. She's a good friend, Ashley's mom. I think Mickey said she might have been. Ashley might have been mentioned in the written report that the sham J6 committee did. But Michael Byrd didn't pass a background check to get a gun for his home. I have a gun permit. You have to be fingerprinted. He apparently left his finger on the trigger on some occasions, which is an absolute. No, no. He got a $3,700 raise plus a promotion. A number of D.C. cops did that. Capitol cops did get promotions for their great work on January 6th. But what's most egregious, I think, Dr. Gina and you know, anybody who watches a cop show knows you don't shoot into a crowd. There were other police officers coming up the steps behind Ashley Babbitt that easily could have been shot as well. And Ashley was not trying to go through the glass like everybody said. She was trying to stop people from going through the glass. There were ANTIFA members in that area as well. And everybody around Ashley Babbitt and Roseanne Boylan, who was beaten to death by another Capitol Police officer, and they tried to cover that one up as well. All the people around those particular areas really got the books thrown at them. That's the real problem. You've got J6ers in prison without really even being tried in some cases, or had. If they were found to be the proud boys, as the case of Gabe Garcia, they had more charges thrown at them just to try to. The shot across the bow. For anybody who might have been a patriot, that's the real problem. And now Jim Jordan is saying, well, maybe we should look into this. Well, you know, four years later, hello. A.G. horowitz, you know, doesn't know this. A.G. horowitz doesn't know how many people were there, how many government assets might have been there. We've spoken to Antifa members on our show that actually said they thought as many as 2,500 were in that crowd and they knew of at least 250that they were there with. So this is just like, you know, there's no statute of limitations on murder. That's the only good thing.
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Mary Kathyrn Ham
And the irony of them calling Gabe Garcia and never ever showing him because he's Hispanic and he's supposed to be this white supremacist, I mean, the whole thing is just. Yeah.
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Dr. Gina
Well, Donna, speaking of January 6th, since we're on this topic, yet another man could face life behind bars for their actions on that day. 35 year old Edward Kelly of my home state of Tennessee was convicted for plotting to kill FBI agents. Now, the U.S. attorney's office says Kelly made a kill list of agents. You think Trump will pardon him and others as part of his promises made, promises kept campaign slogan?
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Donna Feduccia
Well, here's the problem that has nothing to do with January 6th. This is something that he plotted after. Yes, he was there on January 6, but this is a whole separate incident that really has nothing to do with it. We want blanket pardons for the people that were there on January 6th because quite honestly, if you did four years in prison, that's way, way more than you ever would have needed for trespassing. I mean, you've got Oath Keepers that were in the Capitol and it's been proven on our show and many others now, because Steve Baker from the Blaze showed that the Oath Keepers actually stopped Harry Dunn in many cases from basically going nuts because he was brandishing his rifle. Police officer, Capitol Police officer Harry Dunn. And they talked him down. They were in the Capitol for 12 minutes and they got 12 years in Kelly Meigs case, eight years for Jessica Watkins, 18 years for Stewart Rhodes, and he didn't even go to the Capitol, but he was an Oath Keeper leader. So what they're doing is they're going for the top, the heads, these proud boys, the Oath Keepers and all these other people to try to say, you know, we're gonna cut the fish off, you know, the head off the fish and try to stop any kind of escalation. There was no escalation there until the police started firing into the crowd. As far as Edward Kelly is concerned, that's a whole separate case that has nothing to do with January six because he planned this afterwards.
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David Brody
I'm so glad you said that, Donna. So true. I mean, if you're plotting to kill FBI agents after the fact, hey, you know that, that's quote, separate category situation and a whole.
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Donna Feduccia
Yeah, the fact that he was there on January 6th is totally separate. I mean, obviously, you know, the Guy, there's bad apples everywhere, but certainly there's so many situations of people getting pushed off ledges by police officers and people getting shot in the cheek that we've shown that the rubber bullets, OC spray being shot in. And the police were so stupid about not checking the wind, it blew back in their faces. So they got sick. And then after a while, they realized, hey, you know, we've been set up.
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David Brody
Well, just like we talked about 100%. Let's talk about another J6 story. You're like the J6 correspondent. That's what you are. I mean, you're more than a correspondent. You're. You're like the J6. Well, anyhow, here's another story that you've. That's really interesting. You have retailers. Retired U.S. army captain and Bronze Star combat veteran Gabriel Garcia. I mean, Garcia was denied essential medical surgery by the DOJ because apparently sentencing him for a J6 conviction was more important than his health. I mean, do you believe the Biden administration basically is doing everything they can to keep these patriots locked up? And what the heck is going on here? I mean, we know this is just insane stuff.
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Donna Feduccia
Gabe has been on our show numerous times. He's actually going to be on next week as well. He wrote an article on the Gateway Pundit. He's about to be sentenced around December 5th. Now, they have to incur a lot of expenses when they fly up to D.C. there's a couple times he's been up there, and then they apparently postponed it and he had to fly back. He's been under house arrest for over three years, and he gets absolutely no credit for that. So if he gets sentenced even five years, that means eight years out of his life for basically trespassing. He doesn't have any violent charges. I just spoke with him yesterday, actually, on the phone. So he writes this article in the Gateway Pundit, and what happens, they say, you know what? We want you to come this coming week for sentencing, and they're gonna push it forward. They're not even standing back. Now that Trump has been elected, they are going full force to do as much damage as they can. He needs his shoulder operated on. He can't even hardly drive a car. It's always done as an outpatient. So the government said, well, it's done as an outpatient, so you don't need to have this done right away. It's not that urgent. It's pretty urgent. When you can't even lift a cup of coffee, your shoulder's gone. And that's all due to his. He's a captain. He was in the army. Okay. This was all due to his military service.
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Mary Kathyrn Ham
You know, my memory of them is Antifa was trying to attack people who were walking out of Trump Hotel. I believe this was during the first inauguration. And my memory of them is they came like on white horses. I'm not even kidding, Donna. As we were all trying to cross the street and Antifa was closing in on us, and they formed a human wall to protect us so we could walk across the street. I mean, amazing. So, you know, the good stories never get told. That's why I just thought I would throw that in there.
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Donna Feduccia
But, Donna, remember, Dr. Gina, the Washington Post, right outside their own building. The Antifa agitators in 2017 of J6 or January 20, whenever it was, basically blew up a guy's limo, that was his whole business, and it was right in front of the Washington Post building. Nobody seems to remember that. There was a lot of unrest that day. But that doesn't matter because it's on the left. It's a total Fed direction and a double standard.
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Mary Kathyrn Ham
What are you looking forward to, Donna? What's realistic in terms of what President Trump will do and how far into his term do you think he'll do it?
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Donna Feduccia
I hope he does it right away. Benny Johnson posted Donald Trump playing DJ at Mar a Lago a couple days ago. And the first song he sang was the justice for all, which is the Jan Sixers singing with Donald Trump reciting the Pledge of Allegiance. I kind of think that might be a. I don't think Trump does anything by mistake.
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Mary Kathyrn Ham
Okay.
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Donna Feduccia
I think that was sort of like a. Hold on, I'm coming. We need blanket pardons only because of the extremity of this whole thing. Is that a proper word? It's just ridiculous at this point. Even if you've done four years for trespassing, what these people are getting thrown at them. Thomas Webster, whose wife is gonna be on our show this week, he got 10 years, 20 years. NYPD never even pulled out his gun. Unlike Bird, unlike Michael Byrd. Never pulled out his gun. Never had a civilian complaint, did work at ground0, had COPD issues because of it. He got 10 years in prison because he tried to stop the police from attacking civilians. He saw a Fed Shrection. And this is. That's just one other story. It's crazy.
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Dr. Gina
Donna, could I get your take really quickly on this MSNBC headline that reads lake and Riley's case. Killer never stood a chance.
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Donna Feduccia
Yeah. What they're looking at is well, you know, in Georgia, God forbid we have a jury that actually looks at the facts, unlike D.C. and also unlike New York City, as far as Trump is concerned. I mean, these people, I just. All you can say is liberalism is a mental disorder. Michael Savage was so right many years ago when he wrote that book. I mean, that's right. What are their ratings down 60%. You think they're gonna go down a little bit more? I mean, come on, they just don't even care about their own demise at this point. We need the Smith Mundt Act. Are you guys aware of that? What that is Barack Obama got rid of it. The Smith Mundt act was put in in the 40s to make any kind of journalist personally liable for their actions. And Barack Obama eliminated that. So basically, the mainstream media became Pravda, became an army of the Democrat Party. I think that would be a great thing for Trump to reinstate. Yeah, the Smith Fund act back in the 40s.
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David Brody
Interesting.
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Mary Kathyrn Ham
Yeah, how about that?
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Donna Feduccia
See, I'm just such a wealth of knowledge, you think I'm only J6. I got a lot of other stuff in my sleeve.
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Mary Kathyrn Ham
Donna, what's on Cowboy Logic?
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Donna Feduccia
We do have, as I say, Michelle Webster, Thomas Webster's wife, 10 years, and he even tried to to go back to court to have this looked at again, and that got shot down. Carolyn Stewart, who's a J6 attorney, she is awesome. And Don Brown, donbrownbooks.com, i urge you to check out his books. His latest book called Kangaroo Court, is hitting the publisher shortly. He also wrote about extortion 17 and travesty of justice. Donbrownbooks.com awesome author. And he's going to be back on Cowboy Logic 6am and 9pm Unless Trump does another MMA fight, I guess this week on Saturdays and again Friday at 4pm and 1am early morning for West Coasters on Monday morning. We'll see you then in the barn part.
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Mary Kathyrn Ham
Donna Feduccia, thanks for joining us today.
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Donna Feduccia
Thank you, guys. Love you. Have a great weekend.
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Mary Kathyrn Ham
Love you back. All right, what is the philosophy behind how the Artillery Tea Company products are put together? Well, we're going to talk about that, but first, no happy birthday celebrations for men. Jesse Watters makes an interesting claim yet again. We're back with more American Sunrise right after this.
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Mary Kathyrn Ham
Hey there. I'm Mary Kathryn Ham.
- [47:10]
Carol Markowitz
And I'm Carol Markowitz. We've been in political media for a long time.
- [47:15]
Mary Kathyrn Ham
Long enough to know that it's gotten, well, a little insane.
- [47:18]
Carol Markowitz
That's why we started Normalely, a podcast for people who are over the hysteria and just want clarity.
- [47:24]
Mary Kathyrn Ham
We talk about the issues that actually matter to the country without panic, without yelling, and with a healthy dose of humor.
- [47:31]
Carol Markowitz
We don't take ourselves too seriously, but we do take the truth seriously.
- [47:35]
Mary Kathyrn Ham
So if you're into common sense, sanity, and some occasional sass, you're our kind of people. Catch new episodes of Normally every Tuesday.
- [47:42]
Carol Markowitz
And Thursday on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen.
- [47:56]
Bo Davidson
Let's spill some tea.
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Dr. Gina
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David Brody
Well, I mean, it's Hollywood, so you know, all folks like that, how do I say it, are welcome. So I think that'll probably be the case. Having said that, all I have to say, Gina, is Illinois and courts. And that pretty much sums it up. And on a technicality, really, a case like this on a technicality, anyhow.
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Mary Kathyrn Ham
Yeah. I mean, and the sad thing about this is it makes people so cynical. You know, it makes it really. The message that it sends to the American people is be cynical. And not only that, you can do stupid, outrageous things like this and totally get away with it. And so look for more of the same crimes. I mean, that's the reason that criminal justice works, when it works, is because people are punished. And that is a deterrent. Right. This is the opposite of that. This is an encouragement. This is an invitation for more crimes along those lines. So look for them. You know, we have President Trump coming into office and this will, this will look just like, just mark my words, I don't make predictions, except when I'm pretty sure this will encourage more ridiculousness. Like the crime that Jussie Smollett did, which I guess is not.
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Dr. Gina
I just think about the lie, you know, just that Robin Roberts never pressed him, she just believed him the whole time. And the fact that Jussie was able to say two MAGA supporters at 2 o' clock in the morning and subzero temperatures in Chicago put a noose around his neck and attacked him. It just seemed ridiculous from the get go. But I think what's bad about it is Jussie used the fever pitch at the time, the racial tensions, and tried to blame everything on Trump supporters. And you're right. I mean, I hope we don't see Dr. Gina more of this as we enter a second Trump term. Because all these notions of racism, misogyny, David, you hit on it too. They're out the window at this point.
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David Brody
Yeah. And here's the other thing. This is also about journalism. You mentioned Robin Roberts. I mean, this is just talking point journalism. I mean, there's no real, you know, kind of neutral, kind of get to the bottom of it and ask the probing question. She comes in with talking points and an agenda and it's all filtered through the latte sipping echo chamber that she and others are all part of there in D.C. and in New York. So.
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Mary Kathyrn Ham
Right. No hard questions.
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Dr. Gina
That's right. Journalism's gotta be better. But hey, we're in an era of citizen journalism now, so. Thank you, guys. Still to come on American Sunrise. There's nothing wrong with wishing your fellow brother a happy birthday. Unless you're Jesse Watters. Wait until you hear the story of this Fox News host and his ideology behind no man should wish another man happy birthday. Stay with us.
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Mary Kathyrn Ham
Hey there. I'm Mary Kathryn Hammer.
- [51:42]
Carol Markowitz
And I'm Carol Markowitz. We've been in political media for a long time.
- [51:46]
Mary Kathyrn Ham
Long enough to know that it's gotten, well, a little insane.
- [51:49]
Carol Markowitz
That's why we started Normalely a podcast for people who are over the hysteria and just want clarity.
- [51:55]
Mary Kathyrn Ham
We talk about the issues that actually matter to the country without panic, without yelling and with a healthy dose of humor.
- [52:02]
Carol Markowitz
We don't take ourselves too seriously, but we do take the truth seriously.
- [52:06]
Mary Kathyrn Ham
So if you're into common sense, sanity, and some occasional sass, you're our kind of people. Catch new episodes of normally every Tuesday.
- [52:13]
Carol Markowitz
And Thursday on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen.
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Mary Kathyrn Ham
All right. Welcome back to American sunrise. I'm Dr. Gina. Thanks so much for joining us today. It is time now for our sunny side. Eye up and in the pan today, Fox News host Jesse Watters and his comments on wishing men a happy birthday. Waters has this opinion. Men should not wish other men a happy birthday. The comment happened when Joe Biden turned 82 on Wednesday. Waters says he wouldn't wish him a happy birthday because he said primetime would wish him a happy birthday. But we have rules here. Men don't wish men happy birthdays. For the record, he also previously declared that men should not be seen licking ice cream in public. Okay, very interesting. Bo.
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Bo Davidson
Bo.
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Mary Kathyrn Ham
I don't get this, like, at all. So I have no comment.
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Dr. Gina
My comment really is that I have no issue whatsoever wishing someone a happy birthday. I mean, look, it's the one thing you can. I know a lot of people as they get older, they don't want to necessarily be wished happy birthday because they're like, oh, gosh, I'm getting old again. But it's the one day you could actually celebrate something. And I just feel like I don't know where Jesse's coming from in this. I think it's actually kind of silly, maybe not licking ice cream in public, David, maybe that's something people shouldn't do. But at the same time, I don't know, I just think that wishing someone a happy birthday is perfectly fine. I see no problem with it.
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David Brody
Yeah, I don't get it. I mean, first of all, if I want ice cream, where am I going to go? To a private shelter? I mean, I don't understand that. But anyhow, beyond that, Beau, I just want to be clear. My birthday's in a couple months, and when I turn 23, I want you to feel free to wish me a happy birthday because.
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Dr. Gina
And I certainly will.
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David Brody
I'll be. Thank you very much, Gina. And please feel free. Well, you're not a man. This at least the last. No, you're not a man. And so that's good. I don't get it. Sorry.
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Mary Kathyrn Ham
Yeah, I don't know. We forgot Colby. Colby is back in the green room, you know, chomping on probably ice cream. He's probably having a pup cup from, you know, he likes those pup cups. Whipped cream.
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Bo Davidson
Yeah.
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David Brody
Where is Colby? You need to see Colby.
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Mary Kathyrn Ham
I'm looking at the control room. They're just. I don't know. I don't have Colby today. Just. It happens sometimes, you know. Are you excited for Thanksgiving, guys?
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Dr. Gina
I am, yeah.
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David Brody
Oh, yeah.
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Dr. Gina
I'll just tell you real quick.
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David Brody
I just get excited for overeating.
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Dr. Gina
For overeating, yeah. That's very true. Well, I've got a nine month old son. It'll be his first time tasting turkey, so that's a big one for me. And I think about, obviously, I can't remember my first Thanksgiving, but I think it'll be a special moment for him and for our family. Very young family that, you know, we have this unique moment to celebrate. My mom's coming down. We'll have Thanksgiving, hopefully in a little bit warmer temperatures. Dr. G, what do you think should be a little better than 55?
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Mary Kathyrn Ham
You know, I think we should mention because the chat brought this up several times that, you know, while we were joking about the temperatures, I just want to add a little. A little levity. North Carolina citizens are sleeping in tents right now, and it's snowed there last night, so we want to keep them in our prayers while we're enjoying the balmy, whatever the temperature is here in Florida. It's not that bad and we're not intense. So definitely prayers go out to those folks. And help should really go out to those folks as well.
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David Brody
Yeah. By the way, Bo, just real quick on your nine month old, Gina will tell you to have him have dark meat, not. Not white meat. Right, Gina?
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Mary Kathyrn Ham
It has more something in it. Supposed to. Oh, there goes Colby now. Colby.
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Donna Feduccia
Come on.
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David Brody
We've got 15 seconds.
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Bo Davidson
Can we get him on?
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Mary Kathyrn Ham
And you know who freed the beast? It was Zen. Zen was like, we will not have a Friday show. Not be puppy Friday. Anyway, you guys, great show. Thanks so much. Have a great weekend. Hug your children, love your God, go boldly now. You want smart political talk without the meltdowns. We got you.
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