Real America’s Voice – American Sunrise (November 12, 2025)
Episode Overview
In this episode of American Sunrise on Real America’s Voice, hosts Dr. Gina, David Brody, and Terrence Bates deliver a fast-paced morning news and commentary program focusing on politics, current events, faith, culture, and American values. The show covers the anticipated vote to end the historic government shutdown, intraparty disputes among prominent conservatives (notably between President Trump and Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene), Trump’s legal threats against the BBC, Supreme Court deliberations on tariffs, current weather/cultural news, and religious trends among young men. Featured guests include Rep. Rich McCormick, former Secret Service agent Charles Marino, UK commentator Thomas Corbett Dillon, activist Trinis Evans, and others. The tone is lively, patriotic, often critical of mainstream narratives, and driven by a desire to challenge the status quo on behalf of conservative viewers.
Key Discussion Points & Insights
1. Government Shutdown: House Vote and Political Implications
[03:51 – 08:21, 13:23 – 15:24, 64:18 – 75:55]
- Historic Length: The ongoing government shutdown is the longest in U.S. history, lasting over 40 days and straining lawmakers, the public, and Washington routines.
- House to Vote: The House is set to vote later today on a bill to fund the government through January 30th. The Senate has already passed the measure. Expectation: The bill will likely pass, then go to President Trump for signing.
- Short-Term Focus Criticized:
- Dr. Gina: "That's not a solution, you guys." [05:01]
- Hosts and guest Rep. Rich McCormick express frustration that the bill only delays another funding crisis rather than addressing systemic fiscal problems like debt and government size.
- Need for Real Debate: Dr. Gina urges for “actual conversation” about debt, spending, and American priorities, rather than narrowly focused shutdown drama, pointing to “voter cynicism and retreat” as dangers if real issues aren’t discussed. [05:33]
- Republican Dynamics: Rep. McCormick predicts the measure will pass along party lines, with possibly a few Democrats supporting it. He underscores that “debate is actually very germane to what we’re trying to get long-term.” [08:21]
- Continued Dysfunction: Rep. McCormick: “This government is designed to be inefficient on purpose, so there’d be checks and balances, be frustrating, slow, so it’s hard to pass laws…We will always be with our backs against the wall because that’s the way politics works.” [12:47]
- Systemic Fault: CPAC Chairman Matt Schlapp laments congressional dysfunction, noting, “Congress is essentially a broken institution. I don’t see that changing in the near future. And I’m just glad we have President Trump in there to ramrod as much through as we possibly can.” [72:28]
Notable Quotes
- Dr. Gina, on the shutdown deal:
“If we don’t debate [spending and debt], we’re going to be right back here every single time. The American people want our debt eliminated… If we don’t debate those, we’re going to be right back where we started in another couple months… The number one enemy of freedom, in my opinion, is cynicism.” [05:33]
- Rep. Rich McCormick:
“We need to debate what this is all about. To begin with, this is about healthcare, the most expensive spending item in government, the most expensive thing that American families have every year.” [08:21]
- Matt Schlapp, CPAC:
“We won this shutdown, which makes Republicans realize we can fight over things like Doge, we can fight over federal spending, we can fight over more subsidies for Obamacare. And we can win these fights…” [72:53]
2. Health Care Debates & The Future of Obamacare
[08:21 – 15:24]
- GOP Health Care Dilemma: Multiple Republican bills exist, but Rep. McCormick admits a lack of consensus, stating, “We have over more bills on this than we have congressmen.” [10:55]
- Against More Subsidies: McCormick worries that continuing government subsidies and control—including Obamacare subsidies—drives up costs and adds waste, calling for more market competition. [09:49–10:54]
- Question of Repeal: The hosts express nostalgia for repealing Obamacare (“sometimes isn’t repealing something just the best answer?”) [14:21], but McCormick calls it unlikely, given “leadership doesn’t push that, it’s not going to happen.” [14:37]
3. Trump, The BBC Lawsuit, and Media Integrity
[36:48 – 46:00]
- Trump vs. BBC: President Trump is threatening to sue the BBC for $1 billion over what he claims was “selective editing” of his January 6th speech in a documentary.
- Media Bias Claims:
- UK guest Thomas Corbett Dillon argues, “They completely changed the speech…This just played into the massive agenda…that he led an insurrection, which we now know is totally false.” [40:59]
- Claims of long-running partiality at the BBC, with producers prioritizing narratives over fact.
- The hosts contrast the BBC’s “gold standard” reputation with recent bias, suggesting leftward drift and a lack of tolerance for right-wing or Christian dissent internally.
- Parallel Media: Discussion of GB News rising as an alternative, and the growing role of independent social media influencers, especially for conservative young men in the UK.
Notable Quotes
- Thomas Corbett Dillon, on BBC culture:
“I would never get an interview because I’m a white man and that is basically banned at the BBC…You’d struggle to find a right wing voice at the BBC.” [43:01]
- Dr. Gina, on media alternatives:
“I always talk about parallel economy on this program…and there are other competitors out there with the BBC now.” [40:59]
4. Tariffs, Trump, and Supreme Court Powers
[26:19 – 33:54]
- Tariffs Case at SCOTUS: President Trump warns that reversing his administration’s tariffs would cost the U.S. $3 trillion and deal a “devastating” blow to national security.
- Guest Analysis (Charles Marino): Warns that a Supreme Court ruling against these powers would affect all presidents, removing a vital tool (tariffs) as leverage in foreign diplomacy.
- Tariffs & Fentanyl: The administration reportedly got China to restrict chemicals used in fentanyl, under threat of higher tariffs. Marino tempers optimism, urging “take it with a grain of salt” until results are seen.
- Global Leverage: If America loses the ability to use tariffs, “why would China stop providing the synthetics used in fentanyl without a viable threat?...If the tariffs aren’t a viable option…why would any of these countries play ball?” [31:08]
Notable Quotes
- Charles Marino:
“Trump, like nobody in history, knows how to use the economic levers here, especially as it relates to…our national security. I can’t tell you how devastating this will be if the Supreme Court strikes down the executive branch's authority to implement tariffs as a means to national security strategy…” [32:55]
5. MAGA Family Feud: Trump vs. Marjorie Taylor Greene
[47:11 – 55:46]
- Dispute: MTG (Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene) criticizes Trump for focusing on foreign over domestic policy and for lacking a concrete Republican health care plan. Trump responds, “I don’t know what happened…She’s lost her way, I think.” [50:26]
- Analysis: Hosts stress that differences within MAGA reflect healthy civil discourse, not an existential “feud”.
- Dr. Gina: “MAGA is not the voice of one person, not even President Trump. MAGA is the voice of the American people.” [51:45]
- Brody: “A couple of things can be true at the same time. Marjorie Taylor Greene loves America…President Trump loves America…You can have disagreements, that’s okay.” [52:56]
- On Leadership: Gina: “Sometimes it takes people who are representing the people…to put a narrative out there that the President may not be hearing.” [54:05]
Notable Quotes
- President Trump:
“When you’re president, you really sort of have to watch over the world…otherwise you’re going to be dragged into a world war.” [50:34]
- Dr. Gina:
“We have more that we agree on than we disagree on…That’s what we call civil discourse.” [51:45]
6. Faith and Reading the Bible Among Young Men
[58:00 – 60:28]
- Trends: New research shows a surge in Bible reading, particularly among millennial and Gen Z men, at the highest levels in a decade.
- Guest Braden Sorbo: Attributes rise to “people desiring truth…something divine,” especially in a confusing culture where “even basic math…is under attack.” [58:40]
- Religious Persecution: Notes incidents like attacks on Christian students, and suggests this opposition is galvanizing faith communities.
7. January 6, Lawfare, and Double Standards in Justice
[96:10 – 103:09]
- Featured Guest: Trinis Evans discusses the new show “Case for America,” focusing on defending January 6 defendants and others targeted by what he describes as a “weaponized justice system.”
- Personal Experience: Evans, who was inside the Capitol but claims to have preached peace, describes being prosecuted based on symbols like the “cross,” “American flag,” and “Betsy Ross flag,” which he says are “signs of…domestic extremists” per Biden’s DOJ.
- Claims of Lawfare: Evans and Dr. Gina argue that Americans across the country—even those only tangentially involved or present in D.C.—have been unfairly targeted, debanked, or put on watchlists.
8. Additional Segments
- Weather & Culture:
- First major cold snap sets records (Jacksonville, Orlando, Fort Myers, and others) [22:26 – 23:46].
- Discussion and viewer images of the Northern Lights; invitation to send photos.
- Financial News:
- Stock market updates, “AI rally” skepticism, car dealership gluts, and Apple’s hypocrisy over LGBT apps in China. [84:35 – 94:00]
- Corporate Hypocrisy:
- Apple pulls dating apps in China under CCP pressure despite progressive marketing in the West.
- Human Interest:
- Feel-good story of Chewy and a custom leash for a customer with ALS, highlighting the “American spirit of invention.” [118:18 – 121:08]
- Faith Segment:
- Daily Bible verse (John 3:16); Lee Greenwood sponsors “God Bless the USA” Bible.
Notable Quotes & Moments
- Dr. Gina on shut-down politics:
"It’s no wonder, gentlemen, that sometimes it just seems like one big playground up there on Capitol Hill to reasonable people…” [64:58]
- David Brody on MAGA discourse:
“Liberals take part in groupthink. That’s not what MAGA does – nor should we.” [52:56]
- Charles Marino on tariffs:
“Tariffs are the stick in the carrots and sticks of diplomacy. If this is taken away, this is going to have a significant impact…” [26:51]
- Jon Stewart (clip) on Senate Democrats:
“They fought, caved on the shutdown… and did they get their extended health care subsidies? Democrats did not in fact get those subsidies...” [78:56] - John Fetterman, on The View:
“I refuse to weaponize the SNAP benefit for 42 million Americans that rely on feeding themselves and their family…” [112:18]
- Hosts cheer the rare display of “reason” from a Democrat willing to buck party lines.
Timestamps for Major Segments
| Topic | Start | End | |---|---|---| | Government Shutdown Debate & Vote | 03:51 | 15:24 | | Rep. McCormick on Health Care | 08:21 | 15:24 | | Tariffs, Supreme Court & National Security | 26:19 | 33:54 | | Trump vs BBC & Media Integrity (Thomas Corbett Dillon) | 36:48 | 46:00 | | Trump vs. Marjorie Taylor Greene Feud | 47:11 | 55:46 | | Faith & Young Men Reading the Bible | 58:00 | 60:28 | | January 6 Justice System Debate (Trinis Evans) | 96:10 | 103:09 | | Financial News, Markets & Car Buying | 84:35 | 94:00 | | Chewy/ALS Human Interest Story | 118:18 | 121:08 |
Tone and Style
The episode is lively, patriotic, frequently humorous, and driven by the hosts’ and guests’ personal convictions. Frequent tangents, listener engagement, and pop culture anecdotes supplement the serious political analysis. The tone ranges from urgent and critical (“weaponized justice system,” “cynicism is the enemy of freedom”) to playful and self-deprecating (“no bell needed,” “I’ll step over the iguanas”), underlining a broadcast meant to rally, inform, and entertain a conservative-leaning audience while reinforcing community and shared values.
Summary for New Listeners
This American Sunrise episode provides fast coverage of the endgame (and limitations) of the government shutdown; sharp intraparty and media criticism; deep dives into health care reform gridlock and the constitutional stakes of presidential tariffs; allegations of media bias and tech hypocrisy; faith and youth trends; and spirited, sometimes combative, always communal commentary from voices across the conservative spectrum. The show balances actionable news analysis with relatable stories, grounding its perspective in faith, patriotism, personal liberty, and skepticism of prevailing Democratic and mainstream narratives.
