American Sunrise - November 28th, 2025

Summary

American Sunrise – November 28, 2025

Podcast: Real America’s Voice | Host: iHeartPodcasts
Date: November 28, 2025

Episode Overview

This post-Thanksgiving “American Sunrise” special brings together hosts Dr. Gina, David Brody, Terrence, Emily Finn, and guest experts to reflect on the holiday, discuss current political, economic, and cultural events, and provide commentary on American values. From sharing gratitude and family traditions, to evaluating the state of the economy under President Trump, analyzing U.S.–China relations, calling out government waste, and debating term limits, the episode balances news analysis, faith, and friendly banter with a strong throughline of conservative, faith-infused American patriotism.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

Thanksgiving Reflections and Traditions

• Hosts share post-holiday stories: Football, family meals, and favorite foods—empanadas controversially replacing turkey for David Brody.
  • (05:30, David Brody): “Darn straight we did. And it was phenomenal.” (on eating empanadas for Thanksgiving)
• Family, faith, and gratitude: Hosts express personal thanks.
  • (10:01, Brian Glenn): “I’m thankful that we live in the greatest country that God ever created…I try to pray for my enemies. … I’m very thankful for the Rav family. That is probably my number one. Thank God, faith and family, my job, and I am faithful that Kamala Harris is not in the White House.”

Bible Moment & Faith Segment

• Dr. Gina shares Psalm 107:21-22 (08:59): Emphasis on gratitude to God for his works, and relief that “Kamala is not in the White House.”
• Moment of Faith (52:08): Pastor Lorenzo Sewell encourages gratitude in adversity:
  • (54:17, Terrence paraphrasing Sewell): “We’re thanking him because he’s with us in it. And it does not matter how hot the heat is … For the Bible says there were three young men in the furnace, and they came out not smelling like smoke.”

Political Analysis & White House Coverage

• Trump’s current presidency and contrast with Biden:

  • Hosts and correspondents highlight a sense of restoration and forward movement under Trump, referencing the “damage” left by Biden.
  • (11:50, Brian Glenn): “I feel like that was a major victory for America because we got tired of seeing that, which I call a leftist tent…”

• Midterms 2026 outlook:

  • (14:03, Brian Glenn): “He plans to … go back to what he used during the campaign that got the American people behind him—doing these off-the-record stops… Go to restaurants, manufacturing plants … and talk to the people, talk about getting this economy back on track…”

Economic and Consumer Trends

• Black Friday & Cyber Monday Preview:

  • (20:59, Terrence): “83% of U.S. shoppers plan to buy today or on Cyber Monday… more than half … have used or will use generative AI to shop…”
  • Cautious optimism among consumers with emphasis on value, trust, and free shipping.

• Inflation and essential goods shopping:

  • (71:47, Emily Finn): “Americans are now using Black Friday not to snap up luxury deals, but to stock up on groceries and everyday essentials.”
  • Prices for core items like eggs, milk, bread, and gas are down, but some food items (sweet potatoes up 37%, vegetable trays up 61%) remain high.
    • (74:24, Dr. Gina): “If you want beef with no antibiotics, that weren’t fed glyphosates, all the rest of it… then you’re really paying through the nuts.”

• Real estate market:

  • (79:47, Jake Novak): “We finally have, Gina, a buyer’s market in real estate. … There’s finally more supply than buyers… Owning a piece of property is one of the great gateways to… the American dream.”

Society, Security & Geopolitics

• China: Social unrest and free speech limits

  • (31:08, Jonathan Gilliam): “China plays a different game … They opened up their population to social media and tech and their young people became lazier and more self centered… Instead of finding a job … they’ll just ‘lay flat’ and do nothing … If China, the government, tightens the pressure, young people will fold. I don’t think they’ll uprise because they’ll be crushed.”

• Ukraine/Russia War – Winter Impact:

  • (33:42, Jonathan Gilliam): “War has changed now with drones especially. The weather may not be as big of a factor…”

• Internal Threats:

  • (35:11, Jonathan Gilliam): “Our internal struggle, I think, is the biggest problem… social media has not only corrupted the left… but it’s also corrupted … conservatives… I think ultimately the weak citizenry in this country that has become couch bound is the biggest national security threat we have.”

Government Waste & Oversight

• Explosive federal payroll spending:
  • (41:59–45:12, John Hart, Open the Books):
    • “Between 2020 and 2024 we saw 25% increase in salaries for government employees … an 82% increase in people making $200,000 or more a year … 31,000 federal employees outearn every governor in the country … I define waste as a violation of the social contract…”

Term Limits Debate

• Dr. Gina (anti-term limits) vs. Mike Crispy (pro):
  • (88:34, Mike Crispy): “Anybody who is in Congress for 20, 30, 40, 50 years, there’s a problem… We will never have true representative government … unless we enact term limits.”
  • (90:41, Dr. Gina): “Term limits sound so good… but the problem is, power … transfers from the elected official … to staffers and to lobbyists…[who] now have all the power and stay through legislator after legislator… You literally negate the power of ‘we the people’…”
  • (97:10, Mike Crispy): “I just think that in today’s state of affairs, the system’s gotten so bad ... the system is just like spiraled and gotten corrupted.”
  • (97:30, Dr. Gina): “We’ve got to reform history and our education system, and a whole lot of other things. Voter engagement. … Election integrity.”

Culture Wars and 'Woke' Protests

• Economic Blackout as protest tactic:
  • (49:27, Emily Finn): “A coalition… is urging a nationwide economic shutdown during the holiday shopping season… to protest the administration and economic inequality…”
  • Hosts are dismissive, labeling these attempts as “pipe dream” and “Marxist.”
    • (50:49, David Brody): “They can’t stand the system. This is about Marxism straight up. … The problem is [their solution is] not rooted in godly values. It’s rooted in a horrible ideology…”

Holiday Shopping & Behavioral Shifts

• Massive shift to online, early deals, and essentials:
  • (100:39, Emily Finn): “Not Black Tea but Black Friday… A weakening sense of urgency… tighter budgets due to inflation and tariffs and an increasing wake up to value over volume are driving behavior.”
    • Healthy alternatives, real estate, and experiences over stuff are highlighted.
    • (105:24, Terrence): “The older I’m getting and the older my kids are getting, it’s not about … stuff under the Christmas tree. I really am starting to focus more on experiences with our families…”

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Brian Glenn on workplace faith:
  “How many people get to go to work every day and pray with their coworkers and their boss? That is a cool thing, right?” (10:59)

• David Brody on inflation metrics:
  “Inflation’s actually down since the end of the Biden administration … but beef is out of control. … The Trump administration needs to do a better job explaining this.” (74:52)

• Jonathan Gilliam’s warning on domestic threats:
  “The weak citizenry in this country that has become couch bound is the biggest national security threat we have.” (35:11)

• John Hart on government waste:
  “When you give up a dollar of your freedom, of your tax dollars, you want more than a dollar back. … When you start to create a bloated administrative state, then that becomes waste. It’s kind of like a Thanksgiving dinner where you want to have a few leftovers … but if you’re making 10 times more than you’re going to eat, … that’s what our federal government does.” (42:20)

• Jake Novak on Black Friday cynicism:
  “Black Friday is a day where poor people line up to throw their money at rich people. … but if they stop wanting to buy stuff, we’re in trouble.” (78:12)

• Term limits mini-debate closing:
  Dr. Gina: “Power transfers from the elected officials … to the staffers and lobbyists who now also have institutional knowledge … It’s an absolute tragedy.” (90:41)
  Mike Crispy: “I just think that in today’s state of affairs, the system’s gotten so bad … [term limits] is the only way we can get rid of it.” (97:10)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Thanksgiving Recap, Family & Faith: 04:14 – 10:59
• Bible Verse & Reflections: 08:59 – 10:59
• White House Correspondent Brian Glenn: 11:23 – 16:21
• Holiday Shopping, Black Friday Preview: 20:59 – 22:50
• John Hart on Gov’t Waste: 41:59 – 47:10
• China & Geopolitics (Jonathan Gilliam): 30:51 – 37:13
• Faith Moment with Pastor Sewell: 52:08 – 56:38
• Term Limits Debate: 87:28 – 97:53
• Black Friday Trends, Economic Commentary: 78:05 – 80:55, 100:39 – 105:24

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Overall Tone and Style

The episode is upbeat, conversational, and sometimes irreverent, punctuated with banter, playful teasing, and a persistent faith-centered, conservative perspective. While statistical and policy-oriented, the show’s signature is its personal anecdotes, skepticism of “mainstream” authority, and calls to family, faith, self-reliance, and American values.

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For Further Listening:

• Segment on U.S.–China relations and ‘lying flat’: 30:51
• Term limits mini-debate: 87:28
• Open The Books report on government waste: 41:59
• Post-Thanksgiving health talk: 38:02
• Faith segment with Pastor Sewell: 52:08
• Black Friday buyer’s market (Jake Novak): 79:47

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This summary captures the major themes, spirited debates, insightful moments, and memorable quotes that define this post-Thanksgiving episode of American Sunrise—offering political perspective, economic insights, and an ongoing reflection on gratitude and American identity in 2025.

Transcript

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[David Brody]

R U B R-I K.com ahead on this post Thanksgiving very fat American Sunrise special. Ready, set, shoot, shock. Americans from coast to coast are going to the closest mall. Are we still going to the mall? Anyhow, we're going to get an early start on the holiday season. But do bargains await everybody? We've got that answer and your preview of Cyber Monday ahead. Plus, heard at the Biden house this Thanksgiving pass the auto pen too soon. Well, ahead, a look at the state of the country now that Trump is at the helm and how much progress has been made to repair the damage left in the wake of Old Joe and his failed administration. And it's the last call before Christmas chaos sets in. Mike Crispy, host of Last Call here on rad, will be here with his take on the lamestream media's meltdown over Trump's successes. Those stories and so much more ahead on this post Thanksgiving special edition of American Sunrise. And we start right now. Good morning, America.

[Dr. Gina]

Welcome to American Sunrise. Whether it's culture, we have breaking news to share with you.

[Terrence]

Politics.

[David Brody]

President Trump is joining us live now from Florida.

[Terrence]

We've got you covered.

[David Brody]

This is what it looks like to be a patriot.

[Terrence]

We have to protect the American family.

[Dr. Gina]

The American dream is still alive.

[David Brody]

I'm David Brody.

[Terrence]

I'm terrence.

[Dr. Gina]

And I'm Dr. Gina. Good morning. I'm Dr. Gina. We are live with you from the Palm Beaches. Let's bring in David brody in Washington, D.C. and T. Bates in our Denver newsroom. Fat and happy guys.

[David Brody]

Bloated fat.

[Terrence]

Definitely fat. You know, I ate a little too many rolls and all the bread and the dough on Thanksgiving. I know to stay away from it, but I just couldn't help myself. Which David Brody brings me to empanadas. Really?

[David Brody]

I knew. Yes. That's right. And that's right. I stuffed myself with empanadas. That's. Hey, it's Thanksgiving, everybody. All right. Whatever.

[Terrence]

I can't believe. So you guys really did see it through. You went through with the empanadas.

[David Brody]

Darn straight we did. And it was phenomenal.

[Dr. Gina]

I just think this is a moment in history that we need to Stop and acknowledge that David Brody does not understand the important tradition of turkey at Thanksgiving. I don't know that I'm going to get over this anytime soon. David Brody, kick me out of the country. Sort of kick me out of the country.

[Terrence]

Somebody call Tom Holman, please. Get to it.

[David Brody]

My career is literally ending as we speak. Yes.

[Dr. Gina]

Yes, it is. It is. What about football? Did we watch a little football?

[David Brody]

Watch some football. That's right. Terrence, I believe you say don't interrupt you when you're watching football. Is that right? That's. That's quite a, like.

[Terrence]

Seriously, I went downstairs, so, you know, we kind of got a split level house, and the kitchen and dining room is all upstairs, and I have a little viewing area. It's a man nook. It's not a man cave, it's a man nook. It's literally like a corner that I've got set off. And I went down there and hid and watched tv and I tried to turn the TV down low so no one would know that I was down there. Yes, absolutely. That's my Thanksgiving getaway.

[David Brody]

Good for you. Good for you.

[Dr. Gina]

My boys liked basketball, too. It was never a thing. Growing up, I never watched any sports. Both of my parents were very anti spectator sports. They said, don't ever watch it. You've got to do it.

[John Hart]

Why?

[Dr. Gina]

They just didn't like. They didn't like the idea of watching things. They liked the idea of doing life, which I respect. But somehow I raised a boy who was the biggest spectator sport fan you ever met. My son Jack. And I love having him home. So what I did is I set our dining room table right in the middle of the big great room where the TV is and everything. And it's the kitchen. There's no walls. And so we all sit there, the girls, we all do, like, puzzles and little other miniature things and play sequence while the boys watch football. And we can do it from the kitchen. The whole. It's great. I love it.

[David Brody]

That's awesome. Can I just say one, one quick thing? I know we got to get to the Bible verse and all that, but let me just say, the show we actually play, we play football every Thanksgiving.

[Dr. Gina]

I love that.

[David Brody]

It's one of the best memories of all time. And here's why I like it, because it really does bring the family together. And I'll just give you a quick example. So this was about 10, 15 years ago. My daughter was like 9 years old or so. My, my. My son was much older, like about 17 or so. And all of the men were out there, right. He was going to throw to the, you know, some man out there. Right. Not going to throw the nine year old girl. No. But she was the only one open. And he said, you know what? I'm going to throw it to her. And this was at the end of the game, so to speak for the. Hopefully she'll catch it.

[Terrence]

Did.

[David Brody]

And she caught it for a touchdown. And my son and my daughter just started hugging each other and just all excited and just kind of, you know, like he. He trusted her enough to throw her the ball and I don't know, things like that. Kind of cool.

[Dr. Gina]

That is. Yeah, yeah, whatever.

[David Brody]

There it is.

[Terrence]

I'm so happy now.

[Dr. Gina]

We used to. We used to play football every year, but, you know, it's too darn hot in Florida. Honestly, we used to do it. We used to do it in the snow when we lived in Alabama, but. Yeah, it's just so hot here. Nobody wants to play. You want to do water sports? Nothing else?

[Brian Glenn]

Yes.

[David Brody]

Yeah, for sure.

[Terrence]

Wow. I wish I could encourage my girls to do that. Like, the answer for my daughter, everything for her is no, ma'. Am. No, ma'.

[Jonathan Gilliam]

Am.

[Terrence]

Even to me. No, ma'.

[Jonathan Gilliam]

Am.

[Terrence]

No, ma'.

[David Brody]

Am.

[Terrence]

So, girls, let's go play football. No, ma'. Am. No, ma'. Am. Like, come on, kiddo. Anyway, pray for us, Dr. Dina. Give us our Bible verse.

[Dr. Gina]

All right. Tossing it over to me. Just like a good pass. Psalm 107, 21, 22. Oh, that men would give thanks to the Lord for his goodness and for his wonderful works to the children of men. Let them sacrifice the sacrifices of Thanksgiving and declare his works with rejoicing. And I hope we all did a lot of that yesterday on Thanksgiving, and I hope we continue that as we go into the holiday season. A lot to be thankful for this Thanksgiving, starting with the fact that Kamala is not in the White House. Have you stopped to think about that? Did you give thanks for that yesterday?

[Emily Finn]

Did you?

[Dr. Gina]

I think I forgot. But anyway, one person here at Real America's Voice has a front row seat to everything President Trump is doing to change American history. And I'm guessing, chief White House correspondent Brian Glenn, that you take a look out there at that White House from time to time and think it could be Kamala.

[Brian Glenn]

I'm very thankful. It's not that she's not in there. Amen to that.

[Dr. Gina]

Yeah. What are you thankful for today, Bea?

[Brian Glenn]

You know what? I'm thankful for my health. I thankful that we live in the greatest country that God Ever created. I think about that every single day. I wake up with gratitude. I try to pray for my enemies. I just had a conversation last week with the great Rob Sig on the phone talking about some difficulties that, you know, I was going through with a lot of different stuff. And he said, look, we got to pray for our enemies. Let God fight that. That's not your fight. So let's give it up to him. So I'm thankful for my faith. I'm thankful for you guys, because I feel like we come together every morning. We talk about the world events. We talk about what's going on in our lives. I think our viewers appreciate that, how close we are. David, I love my mic checks. I give to you every morning. Mic check, everybody. Mic check. Terrence, Dr. Gina, Emily, when she's on. Look, I'm very thankful for the Rav family. That is probably my number one. Thank God, faith and family, my job, and I am faithful that Kamala Harris is not in the White House.

[Dr. Gina]

How many people get to go to work every day and pray with their coworkers and their boss? That is a cool thing, right?

[Jonathan Gilliam]

Yeah, it is.

[Brian Glenn]

You know, it's interesting when I. We talk about that, and I talk to Marjorie a lot about that, about how before these shows, we pray. I walk up and down Media Road. I can assure you they're not praying before they go on the show. That's what makes this network so special.

[Dr. Gina]

It is.

[David Brody]

No, for sure. Well, we're thankful for you, be Glenn, for sure. We're also thankful that now Zelensky wears a suit to the White House because of you. So thank you. We appreciate that. By the way, speaking of that, what were your best, most memorable moments of the year so far as a White House correspondent? Because I got to tell you, one of mine is that, FYI, the Zelensky suit situation. Anyhow, what about you?

[Brian Glenn]

Yeah, well, it is. That's one of my top greatest moments. I think I can remember only because not only does a suit question that really went off the rails, but it was the first time I walked out of that room. The Oval Office. David and I talked to some people who had been there 30, 40 years, and they said, brian, I have never seen the tension in that room get to that level ever. So we were able to witness an historic event there. Now, that is obviously one of my top lists. Number two is in last week, we had the crown prince of Saudi Arabia there. We saw the kind of the showmanship that the White House rolled out for him. One of my favorite Memories is going with the President to the UK to meet the king there. That was an historic visit there. I will remember the pageantry at the castle and we went to Chequers and kind of the pageantry there to see how they approach and how they welcomed our President. Now, not too long ago, if you remember, I asked President about the blue tent about there's a blue tent outside the White House that, the peace vigil tent. He was not aware of it. The days later it got scraped removed from Lafayette Park. I feel like that was a major victory for America because we got tired of seeing that, which I call a leftist tent. It was something that had been put there originally to fight nuclear arms and nuclear weapons, which is a good intention, but it developed into something far worse than that. So I was glad. I'm very thankful that I brought it up to the President. He acted on it about two days later. And now Americans can now stand, David, in front of the White House and take that picture with their family without that blue ugly tent in front of it.

[David Brody]

Yeah, it was downright ugly.

[Terrence]

Yeah. Brian, I just looked at my bank account and I realized that my wife and kids are on a shopping spree which tells me that the countdown to Christmas is on right now. And then of course, right after that we'll be going into a brand new year which brings to mind the midterms of 2026. It is going to be huge. And I suspect that you and I will be spending a lot more weekends together at various rallies as the President travels the country promoting Republican candidates markets.

[Brian Glenn]

Yeah, that's what he plans to do. Also going on these many economic stops as well. I've suggested to go back to the what he used during the campaign that got the American people behind him doing these off the record stops. Go to restaurants, go to many manufacturing plants. Go, go, go to coffee shops, go to McDonald's and talk to the people, talk about getting this economy back on track and taking it to the streets. That's what really gained his popularity during the campaign trail. Go back to that. But also hit the road, hit the road with some of these candidates that we need to make sure that we keep the House and maintain the Senate this next midterm. So I think getting on the road, showing that Trump policy, showing support is important.

[Dr. Gina]

And it's important to him too, Brian. Psychologically, he's in a better place when he is out of that White House. I've noticed this over and over again. I'm sure you've seen it too. And when he gets to hear from the American people. When he goes out on the road, he asks a lot of questions. He gets more in touch with what the average American is thinking and doesn't rely on news media to tell him. I think it's a good thing he's not as insulated.

[David Brody]

Good point.

[Dr. Gina]

Yeah. All right, Brian. Well, we count on you to tell him everything we wanted to know. So no pressure, but it's been a great, a great, great gig with having you here. And we, Brian, I just want to say, are thankful for you. And I know that it's not an easy job. No jobs in media are easy jobs.

[Mike Crispy]

We.

[Dr. Gina]

But yours is particularly tasking and we're just thankful for you. We really are.

[Brian Glenn]

Yeah.

[Terrence]

I appreciate it.

[Brian Glenn]

I am very thankful.

[Terrence]

Brian, just one last quick question before we let you go. Do you want me to text you my Christmas list or you want me to just tell you here on the air?

[Brian Glenn]

Well, real quickly, I got one from my son just the other day. He said he wanted a candle. I said no big deal. I went to the website to buy the candles. Oh, Nothing. They're about $200 a piece on these candles.

[David Brody]

Oh my gosh.

[Brian Glenn]

Okay. Well, yeah, there's kind of. It's a whole different level candle. Yeah, go ahead and text me. It's what? It's 1, 800. I can't buy it. That's my, that's my, that's my number.

[Dr. Gina]

He can't afford it because he has to buy his son that candle. Terrence, sorry. You're out of luck this year. Wow, that was impressive. Dollars follows Wheel of Fortune.

[David Brody]

What are we on?

[Dr. Gina]

All right, you guys, we got to get out of here. Love you. Be Coming up, we check out the hottest headlines from the Rap newsroom with T. Bates, who is not getting a $200 candle this year. As this special post Thanksgiving edition of American Sunrise continues.

[Emily Finn]

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[Dr. Gina]

He ate a lot of empanadas yesterday, Jonathan. We apologize for him in advance.

[Jonathan Gilliam]

Who put something in his coffee?

[David Brody]

I will literally not live that down. Okay, Jonathan, what does this all mean for us China relations? Good morning to you. I'm no longer ad libbane, by the way.

[Jonathan Gilliam]

Well, you know, it's interesting, when I was asked to talk about this, I went and dove into it a little bit and it's very interesting because China is facing a lot of the social problems that we face here. Primarily, though, their awakening is due to social media and tech and allowing their young people to be engrossed in this. So China plays a different game than the United States does because the United States is truly a free country full of opportunity. China has limited freedom and limited opportunity. And what happened is they opened up their, their population to social media and tech and their young people became lazier and more self centered. And so I don't think that the ability to find jobs is less, it's just the ability for them to find jobs that they want based on who they believe that they are according to social media. And so it's the same problem that you see all over the world, where in China they call it laying flat. Young people, instead of going out to find a job that may not have all kinds of bells and whistles and fame, they're just going to lay flat as they call it, and do nothing and look for less job, lesser jobs that really don't pay a lot and have no incentive so they don't have to do anything. And that's. And then they sit around and when people are like that, they sit around and grumble. And we've seen this throughout history. The difference between China and the United States is, and I think they probably learned their lesson from Tiananmen Square. And the visual of that push down onto the people is that if China, the government of China tightens the pressure on the people, they can because the young people globally are so weak because of this tech influence. If China puts the pressure on the young people, they'll fold and they'll do what they're told, I believe, I don't think that they'll uprise because they'll be crushed.

[Terrence]

Jonathan, we're obviously giving thanks for our freedoms and for the peace that we're enjoying here in the United States. In the meantime, the between Russia and Ukraine continues to rage on, which brings to mind that it is a known fact that the wintertime tends to be the harder fighting because there are such harsh winters in that region and that very well may slow things a little bit. Do you think that the weather can turn out to be an ally for the United States and for the rest of the world and potentially bringing Vladimir Putin to the table to try to potentially end this war?

[Jonathan Gilliam]

Well, war has changed now with drones especially. The weather may not be as big of a factor. We'll see as drone warfare actually increases and evolves. And with the weather, the further you can stand off from where your base is and effectively attack the enemy, then that is going to be where they determine the factor of weather. And I think we just see warfare in a completely different way. I find this War to be very, very odd because where the majority of the fighting is happening is in vacant fields and places where it's just a line in the, in the, in the ground to keep Russia from moving forward or Ukraine from falling backwards. But it's also has to do with a lot of just going in and doing what terrorists typically do, which is just go in and hit random places in populated areas at the same time hitting some strategic targets. So I think as we move into the winter, it is typically harsh for ground combat troops to move. But since warfare has changed, I think we're going to see how this evolution is affected by winter. And that's yet to be seen.

[Dr. Gina]

Okay, Jonathan, on this day after Thanksgiving, what are the biggest threats to America here in the homeland as we head into the New year?

[Jonathan Gilliam]

Our internal struggle, I think is the biggest problem that we have. Politics has gotten into a point again similar to China's issue where social media has not only corrupted the left to where they become an accepted and actually promote socialism, which is the gateway drug to communism and fascism, but they also, it's corrupted the minds and the will of people that consider themselves conservatives or constitutionalists. It has emboldened the left to go out and make change by any means possible, which is a communist term, whether through massive influence recruiting celebrities and people of influence, or through nefarious criminal acts. But on the right, it's strictly laziness. It's basically the inability of people on the right to come together and say we have to stand for this. Because social media has convinced everybody that they know more and that if they sit and argue loud enough on social media that things will change and that while they do that, the left is taking advantage of that. And I think we see that through warfare, lawfare on the street, when the left pours out, all the things they do have been effective because they stick with the playbook and on the right we don't. And I truly believe that despite the cartels, despite China, despite Iran or anybody else that may be out there trying to affect us, I think ultimately the weak citizenry in this country that has become couch bound is the biggest national security threat that we have.

[David Brody]

Well, I couldn't say it better myself. I mean, you're channeling that poster behind you. Sheep. No war. The apathy in this country. Jonathan Gilliam, great to have you as always and a very happy Thanksgiving and hope your stomach isn't really that bad after Thanksgiving. We can only hope the best for you.

[Jonathan Gilliam]

Hey, thank you guys and God bless you guys and all that you do in bringing out the, the truth and for this president and, and listen, Dave, I'll work on being a better, a better guy, a for a new guy, not a former good guy. I'll work on being a good guy.

[David Brody]

That's right. Oh, Jonathan. All right. Great to have you. Thank you, sir. Appreciate you, bro. Still ahead on American Sunrise. All right, all those yummy Thanksgiving foods you ate yesterday, actually, some of them may be very dangerous. Some actually, actually could cause cancer. Okay. This is not the Sunny side Up segment next, but some important information when we come back.

[Dr. Gina]

Welcome Back to American Sunrise. I'm Dr. G. That is Manhattan. Hard to think of what might happen into it now with the new political turn of events. I'm Dr. G. Thanks for joining us today. Special post Thanksgiving show, what makes it special? You make it special. And all that food you ate yesterday and I did, too. So we're going to get right to that. We're going to talk about today's health news. It is sponsored by the Wellness Company and under the microscope today, the damage we might have done to ourselves during yesterday's Thanksgiving feast. The dinner may be a celebration, but for many Americans it ends with that all too familiar feeling of bloat and fatigue. Health experts say it's not just about what you eat, it's how much and how fast. Heavy portions, carb loaded on the front side and a few extra drinks can stress your digestive system, trigger bloating. The good news, a light walk, gentle yoga or even standing a little bit to help digest can make a big difference. You can also go a little slower. I'm just saying, drink a little less, eat a little less. It's just a thought. Doctors recommend slowing down, sipping water between bites and or drinks and balancing your plate with lean protein and vegetables. A few small changes can turn post feast misery into a healthier, happier holiday. And remember, Christmas is just around the corner. So you can choose to wake up feeling stuffed like last night's bird or you can turn out light on your feet. The choice is yours and it's a hard one in the heat of the moment as all that goodness right in front of you that you only get once a year unless you're David Brody and then you just eat empanadas, which no one understands. It is a new administration in Washington, D.C. it's brought a lot of positive changes when it comes to fixing our broken healthcare system, but there's only so much government can do. And if you really want to make America healthy again, it's going to start at home with each of us. And that's where the Wellness Company comes in. You see in here for from their doctors all the time on this network and you know that their products are the gold standard when it comes to keeping you safe and healthy. The Wellness Company gives you an opportunity to be sure you're prepared for whatever happens with their series of prescription medical kits. These kits have an assortment of life saving medications and guidebooks that assist you in the proper use of the meds in the kit. Additionally, Wellness Company offers a variety of products from parasite cleanses to methylene blue to weight loss. So much more. These can help you stay healthy and live a longer, more satisfying life. Make America Healthy Again starts at home. Do your part. Protect the health of yourself and your family. Go to TWC Health RAV. Give it an order. That's TWC Health RAV. Use the promo code RAV. That'll save you 10%. T. Bates.

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Hey Dr. Gina. Stand by because I know you're going to want to get in on this next interview. This is something that's going to interest you and me both. There's a new tracker out that shows billions of taxpayer dollars that were quite literally flushed under the Biden administration through federal agencies like hhs, dot, EPA and usaid. Congressman Goldman and his team have uncovered this shocking spending spree as Americans stand already crushed by a $36 trillion national debt. From multi billion dollars for green energy to millions of dollars for schemes abroad involving mango facilities and transgender mice research, for instance, the list really reveals a government that's lost its way. The message is quite clear here. Hard working Americans deserve honest, efficient government, not a bureaucracy that fuels a radical agenda while the taxpayer pays the price. So for further discussion, let's welcome in to American Sunrise John Hart. He is the CEO at with Open the Books. John, welcome to the show. I'd like you to run through some of the details of what Open the Books has uncovered, specifically those details that probably most Americans would want to know.

[John Hart]

Yeah, thanks for having me on. Look, I think what we've seen at Open the Books is we're tracking federal spending at all levels of government and in the federal agencies we've seen an explosion in payroll costs. So between 2020 and 2024 we saw 25% increase in salaries for government employees and at the same time we only saw the headcount go up 5%. So in other words, the overall payroll went up five times more than the number of people. So there's been an absolute explosion in high earning government employees between that same period 2020, 2024. We've seen an 82% increase in the people making $200,000 or more a year. And in fact, there are 31,000 federal employees. This is unbelievable. That outearn every governor in the country, and that's a $250,000 salary. So in other words, we've got 31,000 people making more than $250,000 a year. And what that indicates is, look, you know, people ask me all the time is, how do you define government waste? Well, I define waste as a violation of the social contract. In other words, when you give up a dollar of your freedom, of your tax dollars, you want more than a dollar back. And you get benefits like a national defense. You get minimal regulation so that we have a free market economy. But when you start to create a bloated administrative state, then that becomes waste. It's kind of like a Thanksgiving dinner where you want to have a few leftovers in the fridge. But if you're making 10 times more than you're going to eat, any normal person feels bad and guilty that they've done something. But that's what our federal government does, is they take way more than they need and they don't provide much of a benefit in return.

[Dr. Gina]

Yeah, it really is. It really is an analogy to Thanksgiving. We do hate the bloating, but at the same time, we're fascinated by the details here. Like, sometimes I love those side dishes so much and I can't get enough of them. And then all of a sudden, there's the bloating. You didn't mean to do it, but here we are. So tell us, what are some of the most egregious examples of government waste that you came across?

[John Hart]

Yeah, look, I think some of the most egregious is we have doctors at NIH making 400, $450,000 a year. Do we really need to be spending again? That's federal taxpayer money. As I mentioned, we've got 31,000 employees that outearn every governor in the state. Look, every dollar that is wasted in Washington hurts a family in America.

[Dr. Gina]

That's right.

[John Hart]

But every dollar saved can be a dream realized somewhere else in the country. And that's what our country is based on. So we're thankful for our freedoms, and we should be celebrating that. And Thomas Jefferson really described this problem. Well, he said the natural order of things is for liberty to yield and government to gain ground. And so what we've seen is this massive explosion. And this is really over the course of 100 years. This isn't just the past four years, but it got a lot worse under President Biden. And what we want to do is call attention to it. And we're making the argument that you can't have accountability without visibility. So every taxpayer has the right to see what's going into the federal government, what's going into the fridge, so to speak, so they can see what's going to come out of it.

[Terrence]

What you've described is part of what inspired Doge. Are you optimistic that moving forward, Doge will continue to make significant cuts and changes that will reel in some of this spending? And I asked that that question because I'm not so sure any of us believe that Congress will ultimately be good stewards of our money.

[John Hart]

Well, look, I think I have a lot of confidence in the goodness and decency of we the people, of the American people. And whether you like the politics of Trump or you like the politics of Zoran Mondame in New York City, both of those examples show that our system is capable of change and having people elected that are unexpected. So I have a lot of confidence in the decency and good sense of taxpayers to understand what's happening with their money when they have the benefit of seeing the money go out the door and where it's headed. So when I work in the I worked in the Senate for Senator Tom Coburn. He was one of the most effective budget cutters in the past 40 years. We actually helped cut over a trillion dollars over a long period of time, 15 years. We didn't cut nearly enough, but we showed that if you focus relentlessly on downsizing government, you really can move the needle. We cut $150 billion between 2012 and 2013, which is the first time we had a big, a real year to year reduction in government spending since the end of the Korean War. We got rid of earmarks for a decade that saved $140 billion. So there's a lot of examples where change is possible. Doge I see it really at the beginning of a process. I give a lot of credit to Secretary McMahon, Secretary of Education. She is meaningfully moving to return education to the states. I think the Department of Education is going to be the demonstration project that a year from now people look back on and say that's really the good that came out of the Doge era is taking an agency and showing that education could actually improve if you get rid of the federal involvement and instead empower local communities and parents.

[Dr. Gina]

And that stands for a lot of government bureaucracies John Hart, thank you so much. Thank you so much. Happy Thanksgiving week to you and we'll see you soon. Coming up, our Awake not woke segment. Would you believe there's a group that doesn't want you to shop today to protest President Trump? We'll be right back. Fun starts again in just two minutes and the shopping.

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[Dr. Gina]

Like what?

[Emily Finn]

It doesn't make any sense to me.

[Dr. Gina]

Look, ever since Scrooge, right, leftists have wanted to take the joy out of Christmas. But then when Scrooge became maga, then he started paying attention to what actually mattered in life. I'm totally making that up. But it really does sort of seem that way in A Christmas Carol, doesn't it? Because, you know, when Scrooge was busy counting every penny and being angry at everybody, when have you ever seen a leftist, Emily, that wasn't angry at anybody? Right, Terrence? I mean, that's like, that's like their signature. It's what goes before them. They're mad, they're angry, they're snarling, they're, you know, laying down in streets. They're piercing themselves, turning their hair green and making themselves as ugly as they can. That's what the left does.

[Terrence]

You know, I would say to all of these groups, good luck. It's a pipe dream. Most Americans aren't good at first. First of all, in this economy, who can afford taking from the 25th to December 2nd, if you're lucky, in this economy, maybe you get Thanksgiving Day off, maybe you got off today, but most people have to go to work. Most people can't afford to take off the time. Secondly, people aren't going to stop shopping, particularly on the days when there are deals that are available and you can try to save yourself a couple of extra bucks. It's a pipe dream. It's not going to happen. People aren't going to listen to that. It's just not realistic, particularly in this environment. David.

[David Brody]

Yeah, I hear you on all that, Emily. You had a long list of organizations. I'll make up a couple of made up ones. How about this one? Free markets suck. That's one group. And here's another one. Capitalism really sucks. There you go. Because that's what they want to do, right? They can't listen, they, they can't stand the system. This is about Marxism straight up. And you know, the sad part is they, they have a point in a way, right? We've heard about income inequality, we've heard about the billionaires are controlling, you know, the working class. It's all true, actually. The problem is not rooted in biblical values, not rooted in godly values. It's rooted in Marxism. It's rooted in a horrible ideology that is really a virus, if you will, on not just the American system, but on the world. And so I think that that is a key difference. Not to mention their, you know what?

[John Hart]

Crazy.

[Emily Finn]

Yeah, definitely gotta make Christmas great again. All right, coming up, using the Thanksgiving holiday to reflect on gratitude and community. It's our moment of faith and it's next here on American Sunrise.

[David Brody]

In the beginning, God created the heaven and the earth.

[Terrence]

Welcome back to American Sunrise. It is now time for our moment of faith, which is brought to us by Lee Greenwood and the God Bless the USA Bible. In focus today, prayers of thanksgiving as families gather across the country this post Thanksgiving weekend. Many Christians are using the holiday to reflect on. To reflect, excuse me, on faith, gratitude and community. In churches both large and small. Pastors say that attendance is rising as worshipers take a moment to slow down. Give thanks. And refocus on spiritual priorities. For more, let's welcome to the American Sonrise Show, Lorenzo Sewell. He is the senior pastor of the 180Church. Pastor Sewell, always good to see you. How are you, sir? Holy Ghost, happy to be here with.

[Mike Crispy]

You today and very grateful during this time of Thanksgiving.

[Terrence]

It's always good to have you. So I'm going to need a personal. A personal sermon from you today. I'm going to ask and I will give to the building fund, I promise. You know, on this Thanksgiving, one of the things that always strikes me is that everyone is dealing with some sort of difficulty, some sort of challenge. While life in general may be good, there's something in your life that can be a challenge. But finding the blessings in that, I think, is a challenge. How do we start that process? How can we find the blessings in our challenges? We ought to thank God not for.

[Mike Crispy]

Being in the situation, but because he.

[Terrence]

Has already predestined and determined our victory. We are in a fixed fight.

[Mike Crispy]

It does not matter what you're dealing with.

[Terrence]

We've read the end of the book and we win. The Bible says, enter his gates with thanksgiving, enter his courts with praise. Be thankful to the Lord and bless his name.

[Emily]

For the Lord is good, his mercy.

[Terrence]

Is everlasting, and his truth endures throughout all generations.

[Mike Crispy]

We thank God because the Bible says.

[Terrence]

We know his plans for us are good and not evil, to give us a hope and an expected end.

[Emily]

We're not thanking him because we're in it.

[Terrence]

We're thanking him because he's with us in it. And it does not matter how hot the heat is for the Bible says there were three young men in the.

[Mike Crispy]

Furnace, and the Bible says that they.

[Terrence]

Came out not smelling like smoke.

[Mike Crispy]

I want to encourage every one of.

[Terrence]

Your viewers that you may be in the furnace, but God has the ability.

[Mike Crispy]

To snatch the heat out so you.

[Emily]

Can come out and not look like.

[Terrence]

What you've been through. Boy, you better preach. So when you're in that furnace, worship, don't worry.

[Mike Crispy]

Come on, now.

[David Brody]

Keep giving them glory.

[Terrence]

In the middle of the story, keep giving them glory. Regardless of what you're facing, you got to lift your voice and say, lord, I may not have everything I want.

[Mike Crispy]

But I got everything I need. Because as long as I got King.

[Terrence]

Jesus, I don't need anybody else. This very well may be your sermon for Sunday. Boy, you're going at it. What are your thoughts for Sunday?

[Mike Crispy]

Well, I'm going to preach a message.

[Terrence]

Entitled in the Middle of It All.

[Mike Crispy]

We got to give him thanks because.

[Terrence]

Jesus on a cross, but he still had an attitude of gratitude. He was in a grave, but he still had an attitude of gratitude.

[Mike Crispy]

He was being beaten beyond recognition and.

[Terrence]

He said still had an attitude of gratitude. When we thank God, we are showing.

[Mike Crispy]

Him that we have an attitude of.

[Terrence]

Faith not because of what we're in, but because of who he is. And when we do that, we will.

[Mike Crispy]

Be able to enter into his presence.

[Terrence]

As we look forward to 2026, the midterms, there's obviously so much that is ahead of us. What are your prayers for this country? We have 350 days until we will be selecting leaders and we will be celebrating our 3 250th anniversary.

[Mike Crispy]

Our prayers for the country is simply this.

[Terrence]

Lord, we believe that the same God that took us through the Revolutionary War, Lord, we believe the same God that took us through the Civil War, Lord.

[Mike Crispy]

We believe the same God that saved.

[Terrence]

Us in World War I, in World War II, he's the same God yesterday, today and forevermore. And we're believing that he's going to do in 2026 exceedingly and abundantly. Above all that we could ask, think or imagine according to his power that works within us. We're believing that 250 years there will.

[Mike Crispy]

Be a great awakening and a greater revival.

[Terrence]

Offer his glory, honor and offer his praise. And I'm going to give you an amen on that one, Pastor. It is always good to see you. We appreciate you being here with us, wish you continued success at and hopefully you and your family enjoyed your Thanksgiving. God bless you, my brother. Bless you as well, Pastor Sewell. And yes, I will give to the building fund as I promised. We're back with the second hour of American Sunrise in two minutes.

[David Brody]

Ahead on the second hour of this post Thanksgiving American Sunrise special. Ready, set shop. It's Black Friday. American from coast to coast are headed to the stores in droves for deep discounts. But do any bargains await them? We've got that answer and your preview of Cyber Monday ahead. Plus giving thanks with a look at the state of the country. Now that Trump is at the helm, how much progress has been made to repair the damage left behind by old Joe Biden and his auto pen pardons and the misdeeds done by those who work behind the scenes of that failed administration. The details on that ahead. And direct from the set of Last Call, Mike Christie joins us. As Christmas chaos sets in, Mike's going to take on the lame stream media's coverage of Trump's successes and how they turn them into proceedings failures. Those stories and so much more ahead on this second hour post Thanksgiving special edition of American Sunrise. We are starting right now. Good morning, America.

[Dr. Gina]

Welcome to American Sunrise. Whether it's culture, we have breaking news to share with you.

[Terrence]

Politics.

[David Brody]

President Trump is joining us live now from Florida.

[Terrence]

We got you covered.

[David Brody]

This is what it looks like to be a patriot.

[Terrence]

We have to protect the American family.

[Dr. Gina]

The American dream is still alive.

[David Brody]

I'm David Brody.

[Terrence]

I'm terrence.

[Dr. Gina]

And I'm Dr. Gina.

[David Brody]

Welcome back, everybody, to the second hour of American Sunrise. I'm David Brody coming to you from D.C. why am I talking like this? Let's bring in Dr. Gina, who's in West Palm beach, and T. Bates in our Denver newsroom. Good morning to both of you. Do you do this Black Friday stuff? Stuff? I don't. I don't. I have no desire to do any of that. And by the way, who goes to a mall anymore? I don't go to mall.

[Dr. Gina]

I don't go to malls. I don't. I don't go to malls.

[Terrence]

My wife and kids, they are there right now. They're there right now.

[Dr. Gina]

We have a vigil, take up a collection for ut.

[Terrence]

You know what? As I've been looking at my bank account dwindling by the minute, I've come up with this proposal for you. I'm glad you brought this up, David. Here's my proposal.

[Dr. Gina]

Oh, I feel like we hit a nerve. I think. I think we need a quick therapy session. Go ahead, Terrence. Tell us all about it.

[Jonathan Gilliam]

Yes, please.

[Mike Crispy]

Thank you.

[Terrence]

And yes, I will send you your copay here in short order. Dr. Gina. So look, instead of buying me a Christmas present this year, Dr. Gina and David, I submit to you that each of you choose one of my household bills. I don't care which one it is. You can pick one of my household bills and pay it. How about that? You pick electric, phone bill, heat, gas. You choose which bill you can pay that. That can be my Christmas presentation. What do you think? Are you guys on board?

[David Brody]

I'm trying to think of the cheapest bill I know.

[Dr. Gina]

Me, too. I was trying to think the same thing. I'm like, okay, it's probably not groceries.

[Terrence]

It's probably not cheap. Trust me. That's why I'm trying to get this. Oh, my goodness.

[Dr. Gina]

I'll do your ascot bill.

[Terrence]

You'll do the ascot bill?

[David Brody]

Okay. All right.

[Terrence]

I'll take that. That's. You know, that can get pretty expensive, too. Trust me.

[Brian Glenn]

All right.

[Terrence]

Guys, look. Speaking of shopping, ready, set and the shopping is underway. It is Black Friday, which is the biggest shopping event of the year. Stores are starting to see early risers empty their shelves for deep discounts. A new report from the Boston Consulting group shows that 83% of U.S. shoppers plan to buy today or on Cyber Monday. Now that's up more than 4% over last year. And more than half of those consumers say that they've either already used or will use generous generative AI in order to shop, which marks a 16 point jump from last year. Despite ongoing economic concerns and high prices for basic items, consumers are showing signs of caution and opportunity for scanning deals and they're preferring transparent discounts and they're expecting free shipping or they'll walk. For retailers, the message is very clear though value, trust and seamless online to in store experiences will win this season, not just today's big sales. We'll of course have more with Jake Novak coming up here in just a little bit as you prepare for Black Friday and Cyber Monday. That's a little bit later in the show. Well, the 2025 Macy's Thanksgiving Day Parade drew an estimated viewership of over 31 million people, continuing its trend as one of the most watched in the entertainment telecast of the year. An additional three and a half million people lined the parade route in New York City in order to watch the Spectacle Live. Yesterday's 99th Macy's parade featured more than 5,000 volunteers, 32 balloons, 27 floats, four specialty units, 33 clown groups, 11 marching bands and performance groups, as well as music's biggest stars. They all welcomed Santa Claus, who made his way down Fifth Avenue to usher in the holiday season. Macy's Thanksgiving Day Parade, by the way, will celebrate its 100th March next year, continuing a tradition that's brought joy and lasting memories to generations worldwide. And having a tough time moving this morning. Are you feeling the post Thanksgiving bloat? If you say no, who are you kidding? Most of us are, yes, me included. For many Americans, the Thanksgiving feast day of indulgence can easily turn into several days of overeating. Experts say on Thanksgiving Day alone, people on average consume roughly 3,000 calories at dinner with totals of 4,000 to 5,000 calories or 4,500 calories, excuse me, or more when they include drinks after appetizers and desserts. The real warning here is don't let that one day of feasting turn into five days of feasting. If you're feeling the calorie regret today, consider getting back on track by moving your body, drinking plenty of water and going easy on the leftover pie. Most of us love pie and will continue to go back for seconds, thirds or fifths. Yes, I'm one of those guys. But try to step away from the pie if at all possible. That's a quick check of your Black Friday headlines. Now let's get you over to David. David, good morning.

[David Brody]

Good morning, T. Bates.

[Mike Crispy]

All right.

[David Brody]

Our top story at this hour, the Biden auto pen scandal and who was using it. You know, even the failing New York Times now calling out all of this chaos. There's a new opinion piece in the New York Times that argues that President Joe Biden may have relied on an auto pen device to sign off on pardons and executive actions without his direct hand in every case. Okay, that's opinion feels like more like fact at this point. The article notes that while Biden claims he made every decision, internal documents and witness testimony actually raised doubts about whether he personally approved each individual case. Investigators from the House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform say there is no clear evidence that Biden himself filled out or witnessed all of the signatures involved in the clemency process. The author of the article also warns that this could amount to a constitutional crisis because the pardon power is reserved solely for the sitting president and cannot be delegated. Ultimately, the piece calls for transparency and a thorough review to determine whether the legitimacy of numerous pardons and commutations is in doubt. And that thorough review is going on as we speak. All right. Joining us now with reaction is Republican strategist Bobby Everly, back with us for an encore performance, as we like to say here on the show.

[Jonathan Gilliam]

Show.

[David Brody]

He's also the host of the 13 Minute News Hour. Bobby, good to see you. So see you.

[Brian Glenn]

Happy post Thanksgiving.

[David Brody]

Yeah, Happy Bloated Friday.

[Brian Glenn]

No, I'm light and lean because I didn't have the marshmallows yesterday. Just saying.

[David Brody]

Oh, you see.

[Terrence]

I was going to be talking to you again today. I said after Thanksgiving we can talk again. And now you're poking the bear.

[David Brody]

I know.

[Jonathan Gilliam]

I went.

[David Brody]

Those are fighting words, by the way, Bobby, you, you have just laid down, as they like to say, or whatever they, I don't know what they do. Do they lay down. That would be good.

[Terrence]

I couldn't do it. Put them up.

[David Brody]

I think it's throw down. Okay. So let's get back to what I was talking about, which I totally forgot about. So in your opinion, will the auto pen scandal forever taint Biden's legacy? And by the way, it's, there's a beautiful picture of him there. Colonnade at the White House. That would be the auto pen.

[Brian Glenn]

That's right. I mean you walk down that and as president after president and then you see the auto pen. But again, to answer your question, yeah, this is going to be a big deal because, you know, the House Oversight Committee, one of, one of the things, what they were really looking at is the cognitive decline of the President, right? It's like, look at this, look at, he not only declined, but they covered it up. And in the process of covering it up, they are putting upon themselves actions that are reserved for the President. And so that's where the legality of everything kicks in. It is a, it's a major, major deal. And the oversight committee ultimately in their report referred to the DOJ saying, hey look, we need to now look at these, these pardons and commutations and see, hey, do weare these void? I mean, if the President's not doing it, then yeah, these are not legal maneuvers at all. And it's a big legacy. But it all, it goes into the overarching theme of the cognitive decline and the COVID up and that he was not at the helm maybe for the entire presidency, who knows? But that is ultimately his legacy.

[Dr. Gina]

Honestly, if you didn't believe in God before, how can you not believe who the heck was protecting the United States when Joe Biden was sitting in the Oval? Who was doing it? It is a wonderful. We weren't nuked during that time. And you know, I feel like the more they drag this out, they're waiting for Joe Biden to be in such cognitive decline that he can't even testify. So then there'll be nobody to witness because he was the one who was supposed to be in charge. That's how I feel like this is gonna go. Mark my words. And that's a sound bite. Will age well, Bobby, unlike Joe Biden. What do you feel though? Today is the most pressing. Thank you, David. David, got my joke. I have an audience of one work. What is the most pressing issue facing this president though, President Trump, in our country right now? If you were to advise him, change course on this one thing, President Trump, what would it be?

[Brian Glenn]

You know, I think it's the word that the Dems in these last elections have gravitated to and that's affordability. Again, when the, when the average age of a first time homebuyer is 40 years old, we're in a kind of a different era than, you know, the 24 year old New Family, one kid on the way and getting that first house. It's a different era. And the young people, the Gen Z, I mean, my son, you know, he just turned 24 and I've got a daughter who's 29. And you know, they are looking, they're starting families. He's finishing school. And it's just a different world out there. That, oh, man, I've got that first job. But what do I have left after, you know, the health insurance and the rent and the fuel and the food and everything? It's caused a lot of stress. And I think the young, the youth vote, we saw in the polls how much it moved towards President Trump going into the 2024 election. And that's because they were. They're looking for real change. I mean, just government upheaval. They're not identifying so much as Republican or Democrat, but let's shake up the system so there's something left for us. I would focus on that front and center because it comes under that global umbrella of the economy and that's what people vote on.

[Terrence]

Bobby, to your point, with the upcoming midterms, that has got to be, or it should be, the rallying call for Republicans if they want to win, is the affordability issue and quality of life. That's got to be all that's being talked about. And I to want, say, talk about it now. The midterms isn't 2026. It's already underway in my mind.

[Brian Glenn]

Yeah, exactly. And Fox News just had a poll out yesterday or the day before that compared Biden's last year to Trump's first year. As far as economic policies, have these helped you in any way or hurt you or are not affected? And they're identical. They're absolutely identical. So I know it takes some time for economic policies to kick in, but people aren't feeling it right now, despite any of the rhetoric or press conferences. They're just not feeling it. So if they're not feeling it, then what's going to happen at the ballot box is they're going to go a different direction. They're going to try something different. And notice I said something different. I didn't necessarily say something better because we have the better policies. But people will just say, hey, this is my status now. I need to change something. And a lot of times that's the people that are in office.

[Dr. Gina]

Yeah, we saw it with Mom, Dad.

[David Brody]

Well, yeah, yeah, for sure. And Bobby, you make a good point. It's going to take time and then. And that's not a Good thing for the Trump administration they want something faster. But, you know, we'll see. Bobby, thanks for being here. By the way, what are the price of marshmallows? You know, I mean, no, I don't.

[Emily]

Look at those things.

[Brian Glenn]

I don't touch that stuff. So you got to ask for that one.

[David Brody]

I was asking for T. Bates. Asking for a friend, right?

[Brian Glenn]

That's right. Well, you guys enjoy the rest of your weekend. I'm looking forward to admin starting. The pinks and purples are just some of my favorites. We're entering a great season now.

[David Brody]

Yeah, it's great to see you, Bobby.

[Brian Glenn]

Thanks.

[David Brody]

Take the time. Good to see you. Okay. Coming up on American Center. We're just talking about this, you know, inflation so bad. I mean, Black Friday now about bread and eggs, not butter, bikes and TVs. We've got some data we just uncovered on how families are shifting spending to survive and who's profiting from their pain. We're going to talk about that when we come back.

[Emily Finn]

Welcome back to American Sunrise. I'm American Sunrise contributor Emily Finn. It's great to have you with us this morning. Time now to drain the swamp. And this morning we are flushing out inflation, which has gotten so out of control that Americans are now using Black Friday not to snap up luxury deals, but to stock up on groceries and everyday essentials. The pressure on household budgets means families are swapping gifts, shifts for needs and prioritizing under the radar savings over big splurges. Retailers who once relied on electronics and fashion for the holiday push are now shifting to food and household appliances to meet real stress in the wallets of Americans. For MAGA patriots, this is proof that the American people are fed up with elite economic policy and back to back failure on price stability. The next battleground will be who's saving America's budget and whether patriotic leaders will cut wasteful spending and taxes while restoring real value to everyday Americans. Let's bring in Dr. Gina, David and Terrence for more. I just am reminiscing and thinking about all the Black Fridays that I would wake up with my mom super early, go to the mall. It just sounds like that kind of experience isn't really happening for young people these days. Gina.

[Dr. Gina]

I think that's true, Emily, and I think it's really sad. And I really do hope that they can start that young people especially can start to feel some of the things that I think they fought and we fought to bring back to them that were robbed by the Joe Biden just selfishness. And ineptitude really, David?

[David Brody]

Yeah. So I want to talk a little bit about these prices that we keep hearing about. Inflation. Well, inflation's actually down since the end of the Biden administration. So in other words, you know, Biden administration, we know how horrible it was, up at 9% at one point it came down, but it was bad throughout. Now it's down at 3%. I'm not saying that's great, but it's definitely better than the Biden administration. But yet we keep hearing about, oh, it's just horrible out there. And don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that there aren't certain prices that are up. For example, I just saw sweet potatoes are up 37%. The vegetable tray that you buy for your family out there, that you're local grocery store, up 61%. I mean, beef is out of control. It's like $10, you know, a pound or whatever it is. I don't know. It's. It's a lot. The point, though.

[Mike Crispy]

Yes.

[David Brody]

And especially it's not that much.

[Dr. Gina]

And especially if you want beef with, like, no antibiotics that weren't fed, glyphosates, all the rest of it, you want grass fed, all that, then you're really paying through the nuts.

[Terrence]

David said.

[Mike Crispy]

Yeah.

[David Brody]

So it's a. It's a lot. But I will say this, that if you look at milk and you look at bread, technically, at least according to the statistics, I don't know where y' all shop. It could be geographical, obviously, but it's down. Bread is down, eggs are down, milk is down, gas is down. So, I mean, if, you know, you put it all together, the Trump administration needs to do a better job of trying to explain this to the American people, because they keep talking about, well, energy prices are down. Okay? People don't get energy. Energy, okay?

[Dr. Gina]

That means that.

[David Brody]

That means I'm paying less for gas. Okay, got it. But what else, you know, they don't really get it. So you got to do a much better job PR wise.

[Emily Finn]

Terrence, your thoughts before we wrap this up here?

[Terrence]

You know, there's. So it's such a broad conversation, because even if prices are technically down, I think most of us who are consumers are still comparing the current prices to what we were experiencing in what one might say is a heyday or before the Joe Biden administration. And it's still very high. And it's still, unfortunately for many people, their way, wages haven't necessarily risen at the same rate as inflation, and so that still makes it a bit more expensive and More cost prohibitive to get basic things. And then most reasonable people are also kind of factoring in. All right, well, what if somebody in my family gets sick or what if we lose an income? What if something massive happens and so they're pulling back from the market a little bit because you just don't know. There's not the sense of security, at least not the people that I'm dealing with. Dealing with and that I talk to. There's not a sense of security economically. And so people are pulling back as a result of that. That's the experience that I'm hearing pretty widespread.

[Dr. Gina]

And insurance costs are so high across the board. Insurance costs are so high, whether you're talking about health insurance, home insurance, car insurance, it's all just insane.

[Emily Finn]

Great, great points all around. All right, we do want to know what you, our viewers, think as well. Let us know on YouTube. Rumble or getter, Hop on and let your voice be heard. Still ahead, how to hold on to your hard earned dollars this holiday season by using some common sense. We'll be back with more American Sunrise in just two minutes.

[David Brody]

So real quick, quick, on a musical note, Gina would like more twang in the bump music. I don't know if that can be. I don't know if she's put in a request for that, like if there's an official form for that. But that's just a request by Gina. I'm sure she can. She can speak for herself on this. I guess we'll get. Oh, thank you.

[Jonathan Gilliam]

What is this?

[David Brody]

This is yo, yo.

[Terrence]

Oh, that's rap.

[David Brody]

I don't know what's going on. Welcome back to the post Thanksgiving special of American Sunrise. I'm David Brody. Time now for our daily dose of dollars and common sense with American Sunrise. Early edition host, the guy behind Jake's take, substack, Jake Novak. Hello, Jake. It's good to see you, by the way. And Gina, before we get to Jake, I just want to confirm. Gina, you do want more twang in the music, right? I'm just making sure.

[Dr. Gina]

I would, but I just put a big bite of my biltong in my mouth. Do you know what biltong is? It's kind of like jerking. So I can't really talk now, David.

[Terrence]

I'm sorry.

[David Brody]

Okay, back to Gina in just a moment after she finishes whatever is going on there.

[Emily]

Jake, I just wrote a country song. I just wrote a country song for Gina. I would have said I love you, but the jerky was in my mouth.

[Dr. Gina]

Real tongue. It's South African jerky It's healthy jerky.

[David Brody]

Oh, my God. What is this show? What are we hearing now? What does this.

[Emily]

Our love will last longer than salted meat on something like that.

[David Brody]

Oh, gosh. Okay. As long as it's kosher. All right, Jake, so it's been said that Black Friday is a day.

[Terrence]

Now, now, hold on.

[David Brody]

You're telling people this. This is you writing this line? I just want to say. You say Black Friday is a day when poor people line up to throw their money at rich people. That's a line that you wrote. Okay, that's cool. But is it as cynical as all that? Jake, you're so cynical. Jake, it is a great. I mean, it's a little.

[Emily]

I mean, there is something disconcerting. I mean, I used to work, but, you know, early morning news. I still am, but I used to go into the city, let's say that, and get out right where Macy's is. And I'd see all these very poor people getting up at 3, 2 in the morning to line up and throw their money at Mr. R.H. macy or whoever owns it now. You know, and it was just. There was something about it that rubbed me the wrong way. I thought to myself, like, wow, these people can't wait to give their money to this guy. You know, to the rich. But, I mean, it's not as cynical as all that. Look, you know, we want a robust economy. We want consumer. The consumer spending is like three quarters of our economy. If they stop wanting to buy stuff, we're in trouble. But I would say this. Like, I guess we get all. We all wish there were a world where they weren't buying stuff that they don't necessarily, you know, need. But look, we need a little bit of that in our. So I'm not completely cynical about it. It's just. It's a little bit in the back of my head, especially on Black Friday, when I see that it bothers me.

[David Brody]

Just a bit little.

[Dr. Gina]

Jake, I know you think that there is some very healthy shopping that people can be paying attention to today. It's not at the mall. And I really like this. And by the way, I did not know that I was in this block somehow. Totally missed. Like, oh, I'm just having breakfast here. But tell us about it, because I really like this idea.

[Emily]

Yeah, look, the mall is not the place to go for the biggest bargains. At least when it comes to money right now and sheer dollars, we finally have, Gina, a buyer's market in real estate. You know, I've been waiting for this For a long time now. It's still very high priced. We still have higher prices slightly in housing than we did compared to a year ago. But if you really want to do some good shopping on Black Friday and this weekend, don't go to the mall, go on your MLS website, go driving around at the homes for sale and check that out, because there's finally more supply than buyers, at least in a lot of parts of this country. Owning a piece of land, owning a property is one of the great gateways to not only to getting a place to live, I mean, obviously you get something out of it, but it's also a great gateway to real wealth and real, the American dream. And to me, that would, you know, maybe don't buy the air fryer and whatever else you're going to get today and save up for the down payment on some of these because they're, because they're now places to actually go and look at that have been updated and nice. And to me, that, that would be a nice Black Friday. I'd like to see more of that.

[Dr. Gina]

And generational wealth that is so important. Such a great way to set your family up and leave a strong legacy. I started studying real estate when I moved to Palm beach and realized how much money was coming into Palm beach and got my real estate license. And I have continued to study it and shop like crazy. And you were right. You know, you take all that little money that you're spending on things that maybe you don't need and you put it in a down payment on something, teach your kids to do the same thing. And it really can be lucrative in the long run. Terrence.

[Emily]

Yeah, go ahead, Jake.

[Terrence]

I'm sorry.

[Emily]

If there's some beautiful mansions in Palm beach that need a roommate, I might be available in about six or seven months.

[Dr. Gina]

There's a whole other part of Palm beach, too, where the rest of us subsist. But anyway. Yes.

[Terrence]

Hey, Jake, I love the idea of buying real estate. And as you said, it is a buyer's market, not necessarily a seller's market. But the reality is for so many people, they don't have the savings in order to put down the down payment. Who has 20% of $600,000, whatever, if you're lucky. And then the other thing is, interest rates are still higher than they were. I get that. You know, in the 80s and the early 90s, we had interest rates right about where we are today. But many people are still remembering, you know, four or five years ago, when you get an interest rate for two and A half percent.

[Emily]

Yeah. I mean, look, that's, that's another big stumbling block. But we had a number, we had, we had about three stumbling blocks. And the first one is again, this, this incredibly large increase in mortgage rates compared to just a few years ago. But the other one was supply. We didn't even have enough supply on the market. And now we're seeing that first hurdle cleared. Now we have enough supply in most places in this country. There's not only a lot of supply, but there's some good supply. There's some really nice looking properties available. So if you're going to end up paying more in a mortgage and as much as that's rough and you're going to grit your teeth doing it, it least you're doing it for a good choice property. You have the choice as a buyer. You don't have to settle for something that's like, okay, it's a fixer upper. This is where the Amityville horror happened. Or it's too close to my relatives. I'm just giving, you know, whatever. You have more of a choice right now and that's important.

[David Brody]

Too close my relatives in Amityville horror. So basically the same thing. You're being redundant. Yeah. All right. Last week, Jake, we got a better than expected. Of course it was delayed, but the September jobs report. So what's that going to do to the interest rate rate cut that Wall street and President Trump want for next month? What's going to happen on this?

[Emily]

Well, it's going to be tougher now for that cut to happen. You know, we're seeing more strength in the jobs market.

[Dr. Gina]

Now.

[Emily]

If you gave me a choice between a stronger jobs market and lower interest rates, I'll choose a stronger jobs market every day of the week and twice on Sunday. So I get that. But now there's a stronger argument from the folks in the Fed who should have been cutting rates earlier and, but now they are going to be a little bit tougher for them to do that. The markets were thinking about pulling a tantrum over that last week, the week before Thanksgiving. But now that they're getting better jobs numbers, they're sort of focusing on some other positives. But yeah, it's going to be harder. We might have to wait longer for that next rate cut. And when I say rate wait longer, I mean we might have to wait for Jerome Powell's term to end in May for us to see a rate cut in the next meeting.

[Dr. Gina]

But real quick, Jake, does this mean if we've transferred now from the bubble that we all know very well. And I don't think any of this is actually happening here. But. But to a buyer's market, as you're seeing, does this mean the bubble is bursting and we could be looking at some harder economic times?

[Emily]

No, it's actually a healthy, I would say a fluctuation within the market. It's not like, oh, all of a sudden these houses are crazy overpriced and everything's going to go bargain basement. It's just like I said, house prices are still slightly high. Listen, year over year, or 1 or 2% increase, increase after many years of massive increases is healthy. So what we're seeing, I think, is this healthy fluctuation. People are finally putting their homes on the market. They're putting good homes on the market. And to me, that's. That's healthy. I don't see a burst or a crash on the market. I'm seeing the buyer having more choice and hopefully that will lead to even healthier market in the future. But we've been sick on this end of supply not being there for too long.

[Dr. Gina]

Yeah, yeah, sure.

[David Brody]

All right, well, Jake Novak, have a happy Thanksgiving. I mean, he already did, but I hope you have it. I hope it continues over the weekend, I guess.

[Emily]

Yes, I'll be having some incredible Black Friday sing alongs like your Steely Dan there a few minutes ago. So that's what I'm saying.

[David Brody]

And John something Coley, whatever his name is. John Ford Coley.

[Dr. Gina]

John Ford Coley.

[David Brody]

I'm sorry, I don't know.

[Dr. Gina]

We got through almost an entire block without talking about marshmallows or enchiladas. So there's that.

[David Brody]

That's true, but we just talked about it, so I guess you just mentioned it. Okay, we gotta go. And back in a moment.

[Dr. Gina]

All right. Welcome back to this Day After Thanksgiving edition of American sunrise. I'm Dr. Gina. We're so glad you're with us. I hope that you had a wonderful holiday with family and friends and yes, of course, food. We here at RAV are thankful that you join us each and every day and we invite you to hop in our conversation. That's what you so great about, Rab. We're interactive. We're on YouTube. We're on getter, we're on Rumble. The hosts and even the control room and the producers get in there and chat with you. And it is time now to take the political pulse of America. The beat today. Is it time for term limits? All right. You know, Florida Governor Ron DeSantis argues that congressional Term limits are necessary to fix the system he says is rigged by career politicians who prioritize longevity over public service. DeSantis is co chairing a bipartisan campaign for this reform. Supports an Article 5 convention to propose a constitutional amendment without congressional approval. Let's listen.

[David Brody]

We're working through the states.

[Mike Crispy]

We know people in Congress are not.

[Terrence]

Going to be interested in ejecting themselves out of office.

[Mike Crispy]

So Article 5 of the Constitution. Constitution provides a pathway to states to propose an amendment.

[Terrence]

This is a bottom up movement.

[Brian Glenn]

Here's the thing, Brett.

[David Brody]

Republican, Democrat, rich, poor, black, white, huge support for term limits across the board. Very few things unite the American electorate.

[Terrence]

In this divided era of politics more.

[Mike Crispy]

Than the need for term limits.

[Dr. Gina]

I feel a tweet coming on like me offering to debate absolutely anyone, anywhere, anytime on this issue. Joining us now with his take though on term limits is the host of the aptly named show Last Call here on rav. Mike, what say you? Is this the last call for dinosaurs like Chuck Schumer and his ilk on Capitol Hill who refused to leave their positions? I think we need to vote them out, not term limit them out. You know, I'm going to get my 2 cents in here, guys. I can't shut up on this issue. Totally opposed. But Mike, I'm not the guest on the show. I'm not the expert guest. Even you are.

[Mike Crispy]

Listen, listen, it's a good thing I don't disagree with you on this topic, but I don't think any American with half a brain disagrees with you on this topic. Dr. Gina, you know anybody who is in Congress for 20, 30, 40, 50 years, there's a problem. Okay, my congressman actually has been in office now for 47 years. What is something you want to do for 47 years straight other than, you know, I guess, be with your wife or your husband. Nothing else you'd want to do for that long of a time. The same job, being a member of Congress. It's quite weird. And it's a massive problem. Why are they there for so long? Why do they value longevity over getting things done? It's because they are doing deals amongst themselves in Washington, D.C. unlimited amount of campaign money after the Citizens United ruling allows the lobbyists and the special interest to flood their coffers. They do deals. They don't act in the interests of the people. They know that if they get enough super PAC money coming into their campaigns, then they can blast whatever messaging they want over the airwaves and get reelected. Because not that many people at the end of the day actually show up to vote. It's a vicious cycle. It's a disgusting system. And I'm telling you, we will never have true representative government the way it was supposed to be unless we enact term limits. Because money in politics has gotten so egregious, it's gotten so out of hand, it has gotten so demonstrably, obviously corrupt that we need to do something about it because it's the only way we're going to stop it. If we have term limits and people could only be in there for six years, 10 years, 12 years, whatever the number is, we get a fresh face of people who haven't gotten a litany of favors that they've exchanged with lobbyists and special interest for decades. That creates the swamp that is the swamp. It's the only way we can get rid of it. Term limits. I completely agree.

[Dr. Gina]

You actually disagree with me entirely. But that's okay. I'm on the other side of it. But we can debate this, as I said, any place, anytime, anywhere. I would love to have you debate it now.

[Terrence]

Exactly. You know, there's no time like the present. Dr. Gina, you've got the floor for a minute and a half.

[David Brody]

Ding, ding, ding, ding, ding. Thank you.

[Dr. Gina]

So, Mike, here's the problem. Term limits sound so good, and term limits are good when they are instituted by the voters. But to have laws that say that term limits need to be the rule means that we can't even have conversations like the one that many want to have about President Trump doing a third term. For example, we are voluntarily ceding our power as voters to vote people out or to keep them in, in that we lose institutional knowledge. That's the real danger here. I was four term limits in Missouri when my husband was in the House, and I absolutely thought it was the best idea ever. Campaigned for it on blacktops in the summertime, in the heat because I thought it was such an important issue. Then I saw it instituted, got my way, we won. And I realized that the problem with it is that power doesn't go away. Power transfers. And it transfers from the elected official that I, the voter, get to hold accountable to. There are staffers and to lobbyists. Then all the power concentrates in the hands of the staffers and the lobbyists who now also have institutional knowledge that incoming freshman reps don't have. And what happens is the freshman rep doesn't know what they're doing, so they're dependent on the staffers and the lobbyists who hold all the power and who stay through legislator after legislator after legislator. And you literally negate the power of we the people to institute policy by voting for our own representatives. It's an absolute tragedy. And what happens is the people cede their own power. That's why corrupt politicians are absolutely for term limits, because they know that that means they can then just control the lobbyists and the staffer and they have all the power, and the voters have no more power.

[David Brody]

Mike's chomping at the bit.

[Mike Crispy]

I like this. I like this. All right, so here's what I say to that. No matter. Everyone says it's we the voter and, you know, the people decide. But here's the. The end of the line. It's an unfortunate reality, but we have a situation where only 20, 30% of people actually vote in elections. And if you throw $10 million at any house race, the person who has the cash advantage is going to win 99% of the time. That's just the way it is. If you're in Washington for a long time, you're going to win the election. So I don't see any way it can get broken out. I agree with the premise of the people should decide. And I have thought, yeah, you know, the people vote, and they're going to vote whether they stay in or whether they go out. But I see the system where, you know, again, I've run local elections, I've run campaigns, I have my own congressman who has a situation. If the cash advantage is going to be so demonstrable because somebody's been in Washington for such a long time, there is 0% chance that the people will go eject. Somebody like Nancy Pelosi or somebody like Chris Smith has been in for 48 years. Years, because they have such an institutional backing of the lobbies and special interests. Now, I agree Congress is very complicated. The whole. The way that they do procedure and the way that things work. It's a very convoluted thing. I think that we need better candidates. We need people who actually, you know, understand how it works so they can go in in day one and actually go get it done. You see a lot of people who run who, quite frankly, I don't think are that qualified, or they're like, very easy to control, like little puppets. A lot of politicians are like that on both sides, where you just go, how is this person a member of Congress? They're just not that intellectually smart. They're not that good. And that's because there really is no incentive for the best and brightest to become representatives because they go into finance and tech and things where they make a whole lot of money. So I think that if there was a way to say that it's a temporary thing and you can go and then you could come back and we incentivize the best and the brightest, I don't know how that is to get in there so they actually can understand and get a grips of how it works. So they're not like flying in the wind and at the mercy of staffers or, you know, people have been there institutionally. Dr. Gina, you're right. Who understand how it works. So if we have smarter people, then they will be able to make decisions for themselves. And that's just my side of it. I like this debate.

[Terrence]

You also have to have people with character. Go ahead, David.

[David Brody]

Well, what about this? Would you guys agree on now, hear me out for a second. A constitutional amendment on term limits. Because at that point, you're putting. You are putting it to the people, whether it be a convention of states, and I know convention of states is a long shot, but then you got three quarters of the states approving that. So, Gina, to your point, that has the people involved, and it kind of fits both. It kind of is a. It helps you both there in your arguments. I mean, it satisfies what you want. Gina. We the people. And what Mike Crispie is saying as well, I mean, a constitutional amendment solves everything.

[Dr. Gina]

Not to me, because I still see it as Americans ceding their vote. And Mike, you brought up a great point, though. Oh, go ahead, Go ahead.

[David Brody]

No, I was gonna say, but that's my point. If it's a constitutional amendment, then you've gotta have three quarters of the states ratify that. I mean, that is we the people.

[Dr. Gina]

Unfortunately, I just don't think most voters. I think most voters are just anxious to get people like Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer out. And I understand that, but it needs to be an individual vote that does it. You, you brought up one great point though, Mike, that I want to address, and that is the political class. That's one fragment of the politically elite, the ruling class, if you will, that I forgot, benefits greatly from this. And my company has a. My family has a political consulting company, and we would profit greatly from term limits because there's so much more turnover and so many more elections to get involved with and profit from. But the bottom line is the voters, the electorates, the American people. Our founders set it up the way they did for a reason, and that is because they understood institutional wisdom. And that when you give that up and put it in the hands of the ruling class, the American voters lose. I saw it happen in Missouri. I had egg in my face for campaigning for it. And I can't honestly ever support term limits again. At least not for anybody that doesn't already have term limits.

[Terrence]

Mike, I'm going to be the moderator. You have the final word.

[Mike Crispy]

No, I think it's, I think it's a fair and spirited debate and it comes down to, you know, the will of the people. And you know, Dr. Gina and I both have, I guess, slightly differing opinions but with the same end goal that you want the people to decide it. I just think that in today's state of affairs, the system's gotten so bad and it's, it's beyond the pale of anything our founding fathers would have thought. Billions of dollars being poured into one one center to, you know, to influence these things. I didn't think, they didn't think that. They thought it would become like this. I thought they thought that people would come in, they're farmers, they're bankers, they come into Washington, they do a little service and they leave. That's how it was originally supposed to be.

[Dr. Gina]

It is.

[Mike Crispy]

George Washington set the precedent with no term limits to self term limit himself and the system is just like spiraled and gotten corrupted.

[Dr. Gina]

Totally agree with that.

[Mike Crispy]

Most societies after 250 years, thank God America is holding on. I think if we want to go into the future, we got to make some reforms. Dr. Jean and I both have slightly different ideas, but I think with the same end goal of what?

[Dr. Gina]

Totally agree. Totally agree. Got to reform history and our education system and a whole lot of other things. Voter engagement. Definitely, definitely Electoral electric. Why can't I get this word out? Integrity, voter election integrity. There we go. Mike Crispy. I think there are a lot of things we could work on together, but term limits isn't going to be one of them. Thank you so much.

[David Brody]

Thank you.

[Mike Crispy]

I like this. Thank you guys. Great to be on.

[Dr. Gina]

Don't miss Mike on Last Call Saturdays at 8pm right here on wrap. Coming up on American Sunrise, holiday shopping in 2025 looks a little different. Black Friday so. So we're going to show you where smart buyers are really spending and how retailers are attempting adapting. We'll be back in just a moment with more American Sunrise.

[Terrence]

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[Emily Finn]

Good morning. Thank you, Terrence. It is time now to spill some tea. And in the cup today, not black tea, but Black Friday. Today's shopping isn't as hot as it used to be. With online sellers almost completely, completely overtaking the holiday shopping market, retailers are without a doubt noticing a shift in how Americans plan to shop this holiday season. In 2025. According to New data, a weakening sense of urgency around Black Friday, tighter budgets due to inflation and tariffs and an increasing wake up to value over volume are driving behavior. This year, over half of consumers say Black Friday is no longer relevant, while almost two thirds report inflation and trade policy will impact their holiday spending. With gift spending still moving forward, shoppers are firmly shifting their dollars to clothing, gift certificates and essential goods while postponing on those bigger splurges. For brick and mortar stores and online players alike, this means winning in 2025 depends less on one big sale and more on early deals, loyalty offers and real value. Let's bring in Dr. Gina, David and Terence for more here. Gina, we were discussing a little bit about this earlier in the show. The impacts, the things that are impacting Black Friday shopping this year. I'm curious, though, what are you shopping for this year? Gina?

[Dr. Gina]

Healthy alternatives. It's a lot of what I shop for.

[Terrence]

A boat.

[Dr. Gina]

Always a boat. I'm always boat shopping. I'm always real estate shopping. I think what Jake said is very critical. I'm actively shopping right now to try to gather up some of these deals and also great tax incentives. And the one big beautiful bill that President Trump passed, great tax incentives on depreciating real estate and things like that. And so definitely those are the places to shop if you can. But I think healthy alternatives, you know, we've always done these stockings at my house and every year my husband just goes hog wild shopping and I end up with just candy and cookies and just junk spewed across my house. And so this year I am looking for healthy alternatives. And I'm not talking about fruit and vegetables. I'm talking about yummy stuff like I was talking about earlier the biltong. I'm talking about vitamin supplements. My kids are all into all of the nad and all of the different vitamins that are providing longevity, et cetera, et cetera. Those are the kinds of things. Nicotine patches. Those are the kinds of things that I'm into this year. Lots of. Of products from the wellness company who's a great sponsor of our show, the Exoderms. Also a great sponsor of our show, Exogenics. So. So there are a lot of great, healthy things to shop for this year. And that brand loyalty, I think companies who've done well by us before, David.

[David Brody]

Well, yeah, for sure. You forgot iguana traps. You're searching for those?

[Dr. Gina]

No, my husband just used bullets, but. And it is legal here in the state of California. Of California. In the state of Florida.

[David Brody]

Well, I will say this. I like the fact that I don't have to go out into the stores anymore. What a nightmare. It used to be. No, thank you. The traffic was horrible. I'm not a big fan of getting trampled and stampeded at Walmart. Those days are over for me. So I'm excited about that. And that's what I got.

[Terrence]

I'm just shopping for someone to take over one of my bills like I was talking about at the top of the show.

[David Brody]

That's right.

[Terrence]

Pick a bill, pay it again. Whatever I'm shopping for.

[Dr. Gina]

I'm gonna bring marshmallows tomorrow. I'm just gonna throw them at you, T. You got it.

[Terrence]

Hey, I'll take.

[Emily Finn]

We're gonna have lots of fun with holiday shopping this year.

[Dr. Gina]

All right.

[Emily Finn]

Still to come on American Sunrise, we are breaking down all the Black Friday trends that you need to know about how shoppers are prepping for the best season of all Christmas. We'll be right back on American Sunrise. Stay.

[Dr. Gina]

So David and his empanadas over there just dancing up a storm. Terrence has nothing to say because he's trying to figure out what marshmallow music looks like. And I'm just chomping on my little tongue over here. Welcome back to American Sunrise. I'm Dr. So she thinks for joining us today. It is time now for our sunny side up in the pan. Today, a Christmas preview. Shoppers are gearing up for a massive 2025 Black Friday with a clear focus on smart spending, not wild spurges. This year, buyers are implementing strategic budgets, utilizing AI to find deals. I'm telling you guys, this is useful for everything as long as you know how to control it. And shopping early as retailers discounts well before Thanksgiving online dominates the game. Mobile devices, social commerce platforms leading the way as brick and mortar takes a backseat. Buy now, pay later options and other flexible payment methods rather, are receiving major usage as shoppers look to stretch every dollar. Brands that win will be those who deliver transparent discounts, reliable fulfillment, personalized experiences. And I'm telling you what, free shipping. If I don't get free shipping, I'm not buying it. Trust and speed matter more than ever. Oh, and they have to take the way I want to pay, too. That's the other thing. If they don't have my preferred ways of banking down there, then I don't do it either. So, Emily Colby told me what he's shopping for this Christmas. But what are you shopping for?

[Emily Finn]

Concert tickets.

[Dr. Gina]

I don't know.

[Emily Finn]

That's the only thing I ever spend my money on. Gina Bon Jovi is going to be. He's coming, coming back. He's going to be in Madison Square Garden next, next summer to perform. And that was actually my first rock show ever with my dad was to go see Bon Jovi in Detroit. So I may be spoiling the surprise here, but I'm considering urging Santa to bring some Bon Jovi tickets to Michigan.

[Dr. Gina]

T. What are you shopping for besides someone else to shop for your bills?

[Terrence]

Apart from that, you know what? I, I. The older I'm getting and the older my kids are getting, it's not about putting a whole lot of stuff under the Christmas tree. I really am starting to focus more on experiences, having these experiences with our families, doing things with the family, and it, it's kind of become more real because they'll be out of our house soon. I mean, I've got a junior and a sophomore, and I'm realizing, you know, soon we're not going to have all these times. And so I'm really trying to focus on. On experiences with the family, making sure that we've got these lasting experiences that they'll always remember. Dr. G. Yeah.

[David Brody]

Yeah, that's great. My son wants to do or has talked about doing that for the family. You know, experience with each family member, kind of doing things differently with each family member. I think it's a great idea. I mean, I'm done with the underwear and the soap on a rope and the Brute by Faberge. You know, that's pretty much what I pretty much.

[Dr. Gina]

In, like, 1974. We're glad you're past that.

[David Brody]

Thank you so much. I'm 97, by the way, today. Thank you. It's a gracious term limit. Term limit.

[Dr. Gina]

Maybe yes. Yes. All right, well, you guys, we enjoyed being with you, and thanks for spending part of your holiday with us. And we'll have the Christmas tree all decorated here on set, hopefully by Monday, I'm hoping. Anyway, that's just a little. That's a little hint to anybody who wants to come help me with that. Right, Colby?

[David Brody]

You'll help putting some pressure on them. My goodness.

[Dr. Gina]

All right, you guys, war room coming up next. Hug your children, love God, and we will see you on Monday. Go boldly now.

[Terrence]

Take care.

[David Brody]

Bye, everybody.

[Dr. Gina]

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